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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Well, this morning I want us. We have a very specific direction. I want us to go the mornings. The importance of these morning service, morning services. The important thing is that we're helping to bring light of the Word that's going to help you to not only receive your healing, but keep your healing, healing, not only receive what God has for you, but to keep and to lay hold of more that God has for you. And so we could always come in and just have healing lines and working in miracles and just, you know, have a wild time. But it's important to us that we all leave together with a greater understanding in the Word of God, the light of the Word coming into our spirit, so that when know things try to come back up. When the devil comes to try to tell you that he has stolen that which you have received, you can answer correctly, you have revelation knowledge to say, no, that's wrong, that's a lie. The Word is the truth and no lie. And this is what the truth is for my life. And you can adequately, as my husband says, be aggressive and push back at attacks and counter attacks in your life. And so oftentimes, you know, people want, we, we all do. We want this instant manifestation. And that's wonderful. And there's times that there will be quick and instant manifestations. But what do we do when it doesn't show up immediately? What do we do when there's a time of standing? Because the Word says there will be oftentimes a time when you've done all to stand, you just keep standing. To quote one of my favorite preachers, Pastor Michael O. Kiddick, if you don't quit, you win. Can't tell you how many times he's told me, if you pastor, if you won't quit, you'll win. And that's what the Word says. When you've done all to stand, just keep standing, holding fast. Holding fast to the confession, the profession of what our faith. Not the confession of the situation, not the profession of the circumstance or the dis. How about the discussion? Discussion? Many of us, we. We want to hold fast to the discussion of the situation, that if we keep circling back, right, taxing back, that we're going to end up landing on a solution. The circling of the discussion is not going to land you anywhere in success and victory. Amen. It's those that we have a clear path, a clear. When you land an airplane, there's Got to be a clear path, the light, everything, the signs, even when it's foggy, even when you can't see, what do they have? They have equipment and things that direct and point and are able to say, oh, that ceiling, that cloud ceiling is so low. But if you'll just know how to read these specific directions here on these instruments, it'll take you and land you perfectly every single time. So even when you can't see and know how this is going to turn out, I'm not sure how we're going to arrive. I'm not sure how we're going to have that increase. I'm not sure how this is going to end up differently than the rest of my family that has suffered from this condition. And what the doctor said is going to be, I'm not sure how that's going to happen and when, but I know if I can follow, learn to follow the direct instructions that are being given to me, I'm going to land accurately every single time.
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So that's what these morning meetings we, we, what we're intending to do is to help, just help you to navigate it clearly in the word of God and, and give you something to take home that when you're ministered to or revelation answers come. There's just being more added to that. Amen. I would like for us, I have, I don't know. Well, first of all, I got a text this morning. I told, you know, Pastor, I said, well, I just was happy doing my little announcement job here at these meetings. And I got a text this morning. How many of you get texts from people that you don't know? You know, I don't know how they get our numbers, what do you call those of spam, you know, scammers. But I did get an offer from a Target recruiter this morning. I thought of all mornings, I thought, if this gig doesn't work, they said they had my resume, so if you don't see me back, you know that I followed up on that text with that Target recruiter, and it must have been my time working here at the restaurant that they saw because I don't know what else, what other resume they would have found. But just, just so you know, I've got other offers on the table if, if, if this doesn't go well. So anyway. No, I'm just teasing. Go with me if you would, because I have so much rolling around and almost like you could say, sometimes you get almost this concept, this something that's just so big in you and so stirred in me. And I'm. I'm so thrilled at what the Word has to say and some of the things that Pastor Nancy's been ministering and of course my husband yesterday talking about being aggressive with your faith and against sickness. And I had been looking at some things in the scripture regarding who you are in Christ and been meditating in that direction. Kind of started the beginning of the year. The Spirit of God had dealt with me and understanding that. And I may continue with this later in the week. I don't know. I'm not quite a preacher yet. I'm more of the teaching side. So to build something is always nice, but I want to start with understanding. We know and we can say we understand. And many of us have been taught well that the life and nature of God is on the inside of us when we receive Jesus. That within us and in our hearts we have been made clean, we have been made right. Some people struggle to get on the other side of their past and how things were and how the mistakes they made. And we've all been there where we have done something. You thought, surely this is going to color the rest of my life, that this is going to affect the rest of my life, that this is my, My, My path, my. My own ignorance is going to. I'm going to suffer with this thing the rest of my life. And that can even happen physically. We can do things or we can miss things, or we can have make mistakes and mistreat our body or get behind how many. I've been there before. I've gotten behind even in meditating on healing. And I realized something was coming on my body and I thought, oh my gosh, I'm behind God. I repent. I have not been keeping up with, feeding on. But we can beat ourselves up. That's what the enemy. He's looking for that open door, right? To just say, you know what? You. You're just going to have to suffer a while. You're just going to have to deal with this. And with the amount of time that you gave neglecting the Word, you're going to have to. You're gonna have to suffer with this. That you know, he'll reason and bring those reasonings to us. Amen. Bear. Do you have that? Do you have that paper yet? Do you have that? No. Okay. Did nanny cake because I had an illustration. No, you don't have it yet? Okay. I don't know. I'd ask my mom grab that, but I think she's in the middle of getting that. But I Want to give an illustration? I think this morning. But the biggest thing I want to start with is when you get born again and when you receive Jesus, you're no longer separated from God. Sin is the separation. Oh, there she is. Bear do that. You know what we did the other day? Remember what we did? Can you do that? Just draw it first. Don't erase yet. When we have, when we receive Jesus, that separation has been removed. Sin is separation. That's what it represents. That's simply what it represents, separation from God. Don't see it as anything else. Sin is separation from God. And Jesus came that we no longer be separated, but joined back to Him. I am no longer separated from the Creator of the universe. We are one together. We are meant. I am meant and created. I was not meant and created to function apart from Him. Even though this natural realm will tell you that there's no way you're anywhere close to the Father, that circumstances will tell you he's nowhere to be found. How many of you felt like that? You have faced a circumstance or situation or a physical condition or finance and you felt like, my gosh, God is nowhere in the vicinity. That's simply a feeling. That's simply a feeling because in him as Pastor Nancy, in Christ, but in your spirit, being mindful of the turning here, you'll realize I'm not separated anymore. I am not separated no longer. Sin has been removed from my life and that separation, I've been brought back to Him. Now if the devil can't get you sin conscious to be separated, the next thing he does is bring sickness to separate. And that's what we want to talk about this morning. Sickness separates the believer and the unbeliever from everything, endeavors to separate from everything that God has blessed us. Sickness. If sin robbed mankind and humanity from being one with God the way Adam and Eve were, then sickness is looking to rob you from fellowship and from the blessings and from the full life that God intended for you to live. So if he can't separate you with sin, he's looking to separate you with sickness. He's not separating you from God, but he's going to separate you from the blessings. Why? Because sin puts our sickness throws you in the hospital. Sickness says, you know what? You can't make that trip. Sickness says, you know what? I just can't do that family, that family outing. You know what I. Sickness and disease and disorder say, you can't. Your child can't go and be with the rest of the children because they just aren't they Just aren't right. They're just not the same. What is it doing? It's separating. Separating. Baird, you got something drawn, honey? Okay, bring it here. Bring it here real quick. We did this illustration on Kids in Faith the other day, and I thought it would work and fit this morning because I want us to see that. That separation that's been removed within us is how we need to see ourselves also in physically, on the outside, in our bodies. Amen. Okay, so we've got this picture. Oh, you drew Wally. He drew this picture of Wally. Here we see Wally. He drew in pencil. And he.
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We had gone to Disney recently and did a drawing. The drawing classes. That's one of our favorite things to do. And so go ahead and do what you had done. What I. We had showed. We were talking about. In Christ, all things are made new. I love something Dr. Bill Winston said. God doesn't just make new things. He makes all things new. I live with that statement. Continue. He doesn't just make new things. He makes all things new. Your body don't need a new body. He'll make that body brand new. Amen. He'll make that bank account so new, you won't even know whose name is even on it. And so what happens is we know that when we get born again, God has recreated us, right? The blood has washed us white. Light comes in. Darkness has been removed. How many of you can remember when you got born again? Or you gave your life to God and you go something. You can sense that light and that life coming up, bubbling up from the inside. You knew a transformation happened. Well, I told the kids, I said, draw something. And oftentimes this is actually. Do you see here? He erased that picture, but you can still see the shadow of that. You still see that. Oftentimes, this is how we see ourselves, that there's still remnant. Yes, he made me white. But there's still. There's still some shadow there. There's still something lingering. You know, there's still something that we have not. We don't. We don't have the full revelation. This is what Pastor Nancy's been talking. We're in Christ. All things have been made new. They weren't erased. You see that they weren't erased. Brand new. Brand new. You see the difference? This is erased. This is brand new. Starting over. He makes all things. He doesn't erase all. He makes all things new. All things have been made new. You have a brand new start, a brand new beginning in Him, Not. Not just erased. And, you know, leaving It. And what happens is, is when we start to look back. Notice when I point to this here, when I go to point, look at that. It creates a shadow. You see that, what we call that, a shadow of doubt. Anytime you try to point back to something that you feel like is there, what happens there, that's where doubt oftentimes comes. The shadow of doubt arises because we're trying to look back. Well, I didn't receive that one time or God, I know I'm still, I'm still trying to get. We're trying to still erase things from ourselves. And he's going, I have already turned and the page brand new, brand new. Stop looking at yourself with some erase marks, some shadows pointing back to the shadows you're going to create. Well, you don't understand how things were last year and what we went through. Listen, the. My husband and I, we. We face some things that God asked us to go through really to grow our faith to increase and, and come up very quickly in a degree of faith and believing for finances. And there was a time and a season where those things and those, I don't want to say struggles, but just that fight of faith, that constant. He needed to know that money was no issue, money was no difficulty and that we could lay hold of anything for the sake of the ministry, any amount. And that the, the financial amounts meant nothing to us. But sometimes the devil, he would want to bring that back. How it took time. How it. Oh no, he's not getting me point back. All things made new in him. When he turns the page in your life, he turns it for everything, not just some things. So we, we have this, we have this concept sometimes that, that there's still, there's still some things that need to. We need to be marked out a little bit better. God know how there's no whiteout with God where he comes in and keeps removing things from you. You know what I mean? He has made in within you all things new. All things new. Amen. Now with that concept and that understanding, the intention was that the newness of life in you takes this physical body and puts that what's clean on the inside and begins to transform that which is on the outside. We have to not be okay with any form of separation from God. Sickness is a separation in the physical body from the things that are on the inside. That's of God. Healing, receiving, healing is not like, okay, I moved up a level in the video game. You know, I just. We think we've got to earn some kind of. Yeah, a Level up and I've worked and I've earned. So now it's time for me to get my level up when I come and receive. No, that's not it. It's already on the inside of you. Remember that she brand new. Brand new. Jesus didn't take sin and then remove sickness and take it on his body so we could have a shadow, lingering, looming of what's going to happen when I hit this age and what's going to happen, you know, if. If you know what my mama struggled with and my daddy had and what's going to happen if I start. And so what do we do? We start looking back at things in the past or things that have been a threat. And we start as Pastor says, we start bringing them into the now. All of that, whatever family history, whatever mistakes you've made, brand new. Brand new. I'm not trying to get anything erased from my life. I'm not trying to get anything removed from my life. Within me in Christ, all things have been made brand new. Now I'm going to take what's new in me and get it out here in my body. This is my assignment in life. That's what Pastor was saying last night, that when you're getting older, you're taking and you're not settling, that age is a determining factor for how this body is going to function and live and move. Amen. I don't care if you have been born with a condition. You on the inside are brand new. And God intends that that newness of life on the inside transform your body and your mind on the outside. If the enemy. This is what the spirit of God said. If the enemy has lost separation of you and God in this life, then his next goal is through lack of knowledge and an unrenewed mind to keep you separated from God. What God has already blessed you with. So he knows. Well, I can't separate him from God, from sin anymore. So what I'm going to do is try to separate him and see if I can keep them separated from all the blessings you say. Well, I thought I already have it in me. Yes, but we're separated through lack of knowledge and an unrenewed mind we're living apart from. Amen. Sickness is a separator. It separates you from enjoying what others are out enjoying. It separates people into hospitals, their homes. Separates them from getting around as others are doing. Separates people into living abnormal lives. And nowadays we have so many, so much technology that will cater to sickness to allow your separation to feel completely normal. Back in the day, lepers didn't feel normal because they were. They weren't just separated, they were isolated. Well, now because of technology, we're no longer we. We don't get isolated. We just get separated and we settle into that separation. Well, I'll get it next time. Well, you know what? There's always, you know, we. I'll just. I'll. I'll, you know, stay in, rest with it now or I'll just, you know, I'll go to the doctor. Not the doctor's bad, but we kind of settle into a life of separation with conditions when we don't realize it is separating us from the fullness of life. That Bible says in Ephesians that we have been blessed with all spiritual blessings, meaning one translation, that we have been blessed with everything that heaven itself enjoys. What is sickness separating you from in life or a condition or an ailment or something you've been putting up with that has separated you? And we've been okay with the separation of living less than heaven itself enjoys. I'm not okay with separation. Parents, you can't be okay with separation when the diagnosis comes for your child and that there's so much technology out there that allows you to keep your child catered to. And I love something Pastor Greg said on Sunday, my Lord, when you talked about awareness month. There is so many sickness awareness months. Aware of this ailment, aware of this cancer, aware of this condition, aware of this. And again, we don't make light. The problem is we've been made so aware that now separation is comfortable. If we're more aware, we can cater to the separation that that ailment brings to that individual we've made. I'm reminded, I've been. I've been listening to Brother Hagin in this one story, and many of you might have heard it, but this, this woman, he was pastoring and he had a Sunday school teacher. And this Sunday school teacher had a daughter. And this daughter, when she was born, physically was normal, but mentally she was. As she began to grow, never past the age of 3, 2, 3, 4 years old. He said that as she. She was in the. The. The first grade, you know, the kindergarten for seven years, never learned to write, never learned to read. The school authorities finally had to ask her to remove her daughter because she was so much older. She'd have been about 14. Because she started when she was 7. She'd have been about 14 years old. And he asked, they asked the parents, please remove. What is that? Please separate her. Separate her and he said, but back then, and this was a long time ago, when he was telling the story, he said she didn't qualify for the feeble minded. But he said there was no special needs classes. There was nothing special for her to go. No classes to help, you know, move her along. Nothing to help cater to this condition that she had. So the mother, what she did, what I love was she brought her to church like everybody else. And he said what they did, she would, if she were back a few rows, she would be 16, 17 years old, crawl on her belly underneath the pew and come crawl up next to her mama. He said she was fully grown, fully developed. He said, and then sometimes she'd want to walk over the pew. So she hike up her dress all the way and walk over those pews to get to her mama. He said, of course, everyone there understood this. It didn't bother them. He said, but when we had visitors, it was a little. Little disturbing. He said, but we understood this girl, she played with the little ones. She didn't play with the girls her age. He said she didn't know how to keep her hair. If the mom and dad didn't tend to her, she looked just unattractive, absolute mess. Why? Because whatever condition, whatever ailment and disease and disorder or something missing within her the devil had put on her was causing a separation from her and everyone her age. But the mother kept bringing her to the church. The mother didn't keep her at home. Well, my child just can't function. And the people thank God for the faith. Come on, the faith of the people, the faith of the congregation to keep letting this young girl sit in the presence of God, sit under the word of God. If we aren't careful, we'll want to separate people who don't look like us, don't act like us, don't talk like us. Remember, if God can't. If the devil can't separate us from the love of God and the life of God, he'll try to separate. Separate us from the health, the prosperity, the peace, the joy. And that's what sickness does. It's a thief and separates us. Don't be okay with separation. Well, I just can't do that because of these allergies. I just can't go there because I can't walk, you know, I can't walk very far. I just can't make that. I just can't seem to be able to get. You know, I'll just stay. I'll just make arrangements. How many times do we make arrangements? Why? Because now technology allows that accommodate. This mother couldn't make arrangements for her daughter back then. There was no other arrangements but to get in the church and sit under the word of God. And it said they were having a revival meeting. And this little girl goes down mentally, little big girl physically goes down to the altar on her own and kneels and receives Jesus. And he said, the next night she came back. He said, and his words, she was mentally 90% better sitting up in the chair. She had done her own hair, dressed herself. Why? Because the separation on the inside was no more. And now that separation, that, that oneness with God on the inside worked in.
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And brought her back to the oneness and to the wholeness that God had intended for her. 90%. He said, she's sitting upright. He said, now she's coming to church and she's acting more of her age. He said, overnight, over. Listen, overnight parents, if you've got a child. And they said, well, you know, they, they've, they're, they've got, you know, this, the autism thing. My husband said it yesterday. God showed him. Will you lay hands on down syndrome children?
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How many kids would you say came up? 4 or 5 when we were in Clarksville? Parents. There was a lot. Parents brought their kids up. They have been diagnosed with autism. They can't speak. They can't go to school. Normal. Well, now there's so much to accommodate. I'm not against that, but we have to be careful that we don't settle into the separated. We're not okay with the. I'm not okay like this mama was not okay with her child staying home and being put off into some other room. Thank God for this mother. There was no other accommodations to be made for her daughter or that daughter might not have been in that revival that night. So she kept bringing her. And this is something I know from my husband that it rings so big is these conditions that keep being children keep being diagnosed with. I tell you, you can change all the laws of the land that you want, but sickness is a demon. It's an evil spirit that distorts the body, attacks the body. Amen. I'm not afraid of that. And it's a lot. And he's right. It's a lot easier to take your authority over a demon than trying to figure out how. How is my child's brain going to be made better? How's my child's mind going to get better? Well, if we could just run them over here to this clinic and run them over here. Maybe to this, you know, to this special teacher and classroom. Thank God for those people. But we're still now dealing with separation. And that may be for a time and a season. But there comes a point we say, I'm tired of this, this separation. This my child is not. Don't ever be. Okay, My gosh, I heard somebody the other day say, oh well, you know, we just need to accept them as how they are. They were. No ma', am, I will never accept for anyone or anyone's life that this just is the way they are. And we're going to take pills and accommodate and make all the arrangements to cater to that, that demon. That's what demons want. They want to be catered to. They want acceptance. Isn't that what they scream? Accept me. Accept me. Accept me. Right. What do you hear on tv? You have to accept us. That's a demon that's not even accepted in its own, among its own, trying to get you to accept, accept them in this realm. They aren't accepted in their own realm. My God. They're trying to work in this realm and get everyone else to accept them. Get humanity awareness with the covering of awareness. Right. Just need to make you aware. What do we do? I just need to make you aware that yeah, this, this condition and I won't be able to do what you're asking me to do or my child can't. We have to, we have to get to where we're not. Okay? Within no separation from prosperity. You just don't, you just don't know my, my past and where I've come from and how the, the poverty level that I lived in. Well, last I checked, no one's bank account separated them qualified to separate them from God. So my bank account can't separate me from God and from the life member all things new. Then I'm gonna take that newness that's on the inside of me. And through the renewing of my mind, the prospering of my mind, I'm gonna take what's in here and get it to touch every single thing in my life. And when that little girl, that, that 18 year old girl got born again, that life in her touched her mind and 90% better now he said, here comes he. She had moved to go live away with some family, some relatives. And she is talking normal, acting normal. When she goes to live with relatives. She meets a young farm boy that lives next door. He doesn't know anything about her history. He doesn't know that she was just crawling under the pew maybe a few months ago. No idea. He falls in love with her, they get married, the war starts, he gets shipped off. They get married because he's got to go. Being taken up for the draft. He's not very educated. Being a farm boy himself. He only went to about the fifth grade. They get married and he said though he watched as the life of God. Remember that new nature, that brand new. No, I love it. Because you know that the devil tried to work on her. Everybody remembers when you pulled your skirt up and walked over that pew. Everybody remembers when you crawled on your stomach six months ago. Everybody remembers you playing with the toys in the corner while the revival was going on. What are you going to do now? You've lost 18 years of your life. You know, he worked that on her. Look at all the time that's passed. Look at all the. You might as well just stay at home, help take care of your mother, help take care of, you know, the things around. Why separate her from the fullness of the plan of God that he had for her? What was he looking to. He couldn't separate her from the life. So what's he going to do? Point back to her past? Cast a shadow of doubt that anything that God had for her was out of her reach? See, if we're reaching back, we're not reaching forward. It's always out of reach when we're pointing back to our past, always. But when we start reaching forward, it is. Nothing is ever out of the reach of faith. Ever. So it was going to take faith for her to get over how she was even three, four, five, six months ago. This was a quick, immediate turnaround. And so as she, they, they, they get married, this couple, he goes off, she starts taking. He said it was the wisdom of God because this was girl had a sister who I believe the husband also went off and as that the sister got money and then they had more money. The sister squandered her money. Said that through the wisdom of God, God showed this girl how to take the money that was coming in. She lived with the mother in law at this point, take the money that was coming in and showed her what to do with it. He said this girl had no education, couldn't read or write, but was beginning to prosper by the wisdom of God, by the life of God, by the new nature that was within her. He said he watched her live in Christ as God had made her not live with the holding on to the mental disability that she once suffered from. Does that make sense? So she Begins to save this money. And she said, we'll buy a farm when he gets out. We're gonna save enough. She puts it all away. He said she brought her tithe every week. He said she'd be the first one to sow into the offering. Said she had enough life in her, enough understanding that she knew when that offering there was a special offering she was the first to give. And then everything else she would set aside. Said when he got out, her husband got out. They had money to buy a farm, but he didn't want a farm. He went into construction. They used it to buy trucks, to start a construction company. And she began to run the business with him now while he's off at war. You know what happened? He told his mama, he said, mama, I know you're writing letters on her behalf, but can you teach her to write? I just want to get one I love you on a page from her. That would mean more to me than all the pages you're writing on her behalf. So she began to teach this girl at 18, 19 years old how to write. Brother Hagin said it at that point, it wasn't but a year or two later he said, I'm looking. As the girl had moved back with her mother in that town, he said he had come back to visit and he holds up this eight page letter that the girl had written. He said it was as good as any college student. It was eloquent, it was full of wisdom. And he said, the miracle power of God. The life of God. This isn't her, he said. He didn't say she got up and just, you know, declared scripture every day. The whole point was she just understood how to live in the newness of life, the cleanness that was on the inside. Old things were passed away. All things were now new for her. They were all new. Amen. Said she would save this money. Now they've got their own business, she's running their own business. He said as time passed and he had come back to the church, the husband had died in an accident, in a construction accident. And he said, he asked whatever happened to this girl he knew the husband had died. He said one of the Sunday school ladies took him out and showed him, said, see that development was a housing development. See that housing development? She owns all of that. She's her own financier, she's her own contractor. She does everything. She is running a major business and was at one time incapacitated to ever become, you know, a functioning adult, mentally stuck. But the life of God, what Sickness meant to separate her. Now she's funding the gospel. Don't ever say what you can, what your children can and can't do. Don't ever, ever talk about any limitations in Christ. There are no limitations. If he can. If he can bring a dead man back to being seated at the right hand of the Father, Father. And I'm not talking about Jesus. I'm talking about you and me. If he can bring me to somehow be seated right next to him in heavenly places. Don't ever talk about your limitation. It is not your limitation. It is meant to separate you. But what we have to do is know that we might first be separated from knowledge. When you're separated from knowledge and the wisdom of God, you'll be separated physically, materially, financially. So the important thing for us now is to understand, how do I get rid of this separation? You may say, I do have separation. There is sickness that's been trying to work in my body for years. It hinders me. It holds me back. It keeps me. Maybe it's in my child, maybe it's in a loved one. And you say, how do I close that gap? Number one is through meditation. Meditation. Did you know memorization is still separation? Listen, I was telling Pastor Ike and Pastor Cindy Coolass, and I decided I was going to learn that we had gone to France. I thought, you know what? I'll just learn how to speak French. My gosh, we have all these apps and everything. My son wants to learn. So we're just going to. We're just going to do this. We're just going to get on and learn. We, right? Sometimes Spanish wants to come out. We live in California. I'm not kidding you. Or it will come out sounding a little more Spanish than French. And I thought, well, I'm just going to learn it. And I've come to find right now, in the early beginning stages, you know, I know some things that. But really, it's all memorization. I'm not kidding. You come up to me and say this. Say. Say the same thing that I learned in the lesson last night. And I go, okay, how do I respond to that? Why? Because when it's right in front of me, oh, I know that word. And I can put all that. I know it right by my sight. When I see the words, I go, I know what that is. But if I hear it, I'm not real clear yet.
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When we went over to. On our European tour, brother Kenny here, he's our kind of the head of our travel, we didn't know he was in the military. We didn't know he could kind of speak French. Okay. So he's getting us around real good. Like, everywhere we went, I'm like, wow. You know, just a little bit goes a long way. It was like a hidden talent. Nobody knew. This man knew some French and. But he could converse. Why? Because he had taken that language and put it and had developed himself enough in it that it wasn't just a memorization. There was. He could function, Right? So what happens is we come and sit under the word, and then we memorize the scripture. And when we go out, what happens? Just the memorization alone. The Bible says, receive. Now, there's a word called engrafted. Okay. French has yet to be engrafted. Okay. It's just. It's just memorization right now. It's not engrafted. Because if someone were to talk to me, I still don't know what to say, and I still don't understand. This is what happened. We memorize and we get in the habit of memorization when the enemy, the body, the finances, talk to us and say, you'll never have enough. And they say, you're never going to get over this. You're always going to have this condition. Memorization doesn't spin. It has to become part of you so that you can converse appropriately back to that thing that's talking to you. The devil is a spirit, and he talks to you in the language of the spirit. You got to get the word in you. That's the language of the spirit. The word of God is the language of the spirit realm, the supernatural. And if you only memorize it, you're holding it still in the natural realm. Does that make sense? I'm not okay with just holding the scripture in the natural realm through memorization. I've got to get it engrafted in me by the spirit so that when a spirit talks to me, I'm talking from his place, not from this carnal, natural place. We can't answer from the natural. We have to answer from the same realm that that spirit is talking. Does that help? This is the. These are some of the things that I've been. We've been really, I think, just coming up in as. As the spirit of God deals with us in teaching along these lines and ministering, you know, and helping people to receive in a greater way the things that God has. It's from a different realm. It's from a different place. Memorization is still from the natural mind. It's still from the carnal realm. So I just. As I can't. I'm memorizing some things right now, but that other language isn't engrafted in me. You know what the thing is, too, is I don't even know how to say some of those words, the appropriate way to say them. Have you ever heard yourself answer by his stripes? I'm handy. Go. That did not sound like you had a whole lot of faith attached to it. You know, a faith sound. You know, faith has a sound. That's what my husband was talking about this morning. Yesterday morning. The sound of faith. It has an action, it has a posture, it has a position. And you know when you're not taking that posture. Just like I know when I tell my kids, go clean your room. And when I tell my kids, go clean your room.
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One came from here, right? Why? One had the meaning and the weight of authority behind it. What is it? Oh, y' all go clean your room. That sounds like their friend could have said that. I'll go clean your room. But you know, parents, even young people, you know, when the weight of authority is behind us, as we say, that eyebrow gets in there, you got to look on the outside. And the tone. The devil knows when the weight of the authority is put behind it and when it's not. And when we talk out of a memorized place because we've been sitting in the pew taking good notes and we can quote my. I can quote my past dragon. Was there any life attached to it? Because it's what dad Hagen said. This little girl's life was transformed. Her whole future was transformed because life. She understood how to draw that life. She saw herself as that white piece of paper. Brand new. Brand new. Amen. And I want to read something. And then we'll close with this. This is by what Something John G. Lake said and talking about the renewing of the mind, talking about taking. We've got to bring unity to the spirit, soul and body. That the soul and the body are operating just as the spirit man and functioning and are. Are controlled by the spirit. Spirit man. He said, when one trusts in any department of his being, demand he is weak in that respect. And that part of his being is not committed to God. What he's saying here is if you trust your body, you trust your finances. Demand, he said, and you've not committed that. That place to God. He said, you are weak in that area. What areas are we turning over to natural reasoning? What areas are we allowing that separation? Well, just trust my doctor. I'll just trust the Experts, they know. I'll just. You know what? I can just. How about the word manage? Do we not see that on commercials all the time? This will help you manage. They never say heal. There's no pill that's ever advertised that says will heal you.
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Because man can't heal you. Healing is only flowing from the great physician. Amen. But he says, when we trust our minds, souls and bodies to man, two parts are out of the hands of God and there remains only our spirits in tune with heaven. I'm not okay with just one part of me in tune with heaven. I want my mind and my body to be in tune. All three parts of me in tune with Christ says it ought not be so. The committing of the whole being to the will of God is the mind of God, blessed be his name. Such a commitment of the being to God puts one in the place where, just as God supplies health to listen. Just as God supplies health to the spirit, spirit and health to the soul, he trusts God to supply health to his body. Divine healing is the. I love this. And this is where we're going to jump off. Probably the next session, the next time I'm here. Divine healing is the removal by the power of God of the disease that come upon, has come upon the body. But the divine health is to live day by day and hour by hour in touch with God, so that the life of God flows into the body just as the life of God flows into the mind or flows into the spirit. He's saying, there is such a place that you live that the life of God that is flowing continually in your spirit, man, now you've committed your body, you've committed your mind that now that life is continually flowing through the three parts of the being, that is the highest place to live. That is in him. That the life is not just here. It's. It's flowing through us. Spirit, soul and body. All three committed. Amen. But the first place we start with that is by the renewing of our mind. Not the memorization, but the engrafting that word, meditation, turning it over. It cannot be your pastor's word. It cannot be Pastor Nancy's word. It has to be. There's no authority in someone else's words for your life. There is no authority for someone else's words into your life. There may be a season where God allows the authority of your pastor to work something in your life, but that won't always last. God expects us to develop our threefold being, spirit, soul, and body. Amen. Amen. Well, we'll close with that today. And just continuing along these these same lines. Amen. We want to go ahead and receive the offering for this morning. This is for the meetings. And let me see here. We've got a couple of things. If you want to give by cash, you can that we ask that you take an envelope, fill it out completely if you would. That would be much appreciated. Tonight, services at 7. If you've just arrived, you can come an hour before the service. Be here, come in the building. It's been full every night. Pastor Nancy has these two books out there. Love the Great Quest. And I have a supply. Wonderful books. This one on teaching. Oftentimes we can just settle for making it month to month, being happy with what we have about content. Let me just be content with the way things have always been. But when God supplies us, we realize we can reach for more and we don't have to be content with the way things have always been been because there's a supply for more and going further in him. Amen. So that book is out there. And love the Great Quest. God really moved on her to write this book. It's a teaching on not only our part in walking in love, but also God's love for us. And that everything starts with the love of God being given to us. That everything he does, he sees you in love. He doesn't see you by your past, he doesn't see you by what you are aren't doing. He sees you in righteousness, he sees you in him. And that is all stemming from that great love flow that sent Jesus to the cross, that even brought mankind to this earth. So we, we encourage you to get both of those book. Oh and then they have this one audio teaching healing and righteousness. Again, same same lines that we've been teaching on this week. Such a good CD series and that is available audio teaching. If you like CDs, we still have those available. Amen. Are you ready to give this morning? Amen. Ushers, go ahead and come forward. Father, we thank you for those that are giving. We thank you that they're taking of their resources and Father, they're sewing it into this ministry and they the message that is going out that Jesus is the healer. We thank you for their precious seed and we water it with our faith and we say it multiplies in Jesus name. It comes back into their hands in abundant multiplied portion. Father, we also say that grace and favor and blessing come to them in abundance in Jesus name. Amen. Ushers, go ahead. Did you have Something. Yeah, I believe as they're passing a bucket.
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No shadows, no darkness no looking back all things are new no distance, no separation I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things are new no shadows, no darkness, no looking back all things are new no distance, no separation I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things are new no shadows, no darkness, no looking back all things are new no Jesus is no separation I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things are new.
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No sickness and no character Nothing is lost. Yes. All things are new no distance and no distance no separation no separation. Christ. No to nothing is lost. All things, all things are you no distance, no. Separation. Christ is in me. All. Things. Can we sing that verse one more time in unison? About no sin, sickness. Cuz I saw the anointing. Come on you. When she said that.
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Sing that again.
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No sickness, no thank you, Jesus. Everybody worship. Nothing is lost. All things are new. No. Separation I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things are new. No sickness, no s. Yes. No storm. Nothing is lost. All things are new. No distance, no separation. I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things of you. I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All inside you. I am in Christ. Christ is Satan. Be all things of you.
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Before we go, I'll give this invitation and it may. There may no be nobody in here. Maybe somebody watching by live stream and this isn't the only opportunity for this. So if you're watching and you couldn't be here, but you will be later, take heart. But if there is someone in here, it seems to me, and maybe you've come and you have a. A child that has been diagnosed with something. They been given a diagnosis that there's a difficulty there maybe mentally or that would hold them back, separate them from others. Is there anyone in here and you say, that's me. I've come and I've got back here, right over here, right back here. May I minister? Or if you know somebody. One of the things we've done is we've got prayer cloths that we can lay hands on these prayer cloths. But if you, if you would like come up here and there's an anointing to break that yoke. And he makes all things new. He makes all things new. You don't need a different child. He makes all things new. You don't need a different diagnosis. He makes all things new. Amen. Now, some of you may not have your. Your children here. That's okay. If you want a prayer cloth? Our staff come up, there's some. Raise your hand and we'll get you a prayer cl. And what we're gonna do is we're gonna put our hands on these cloths and the anointing is gonna go in. The anointing is the power of God, that life. But there just know this. There's enough life in you every day to get up and minister to your child. There's enough life. We don't have to go home with you there. There was enough in the words of Jesus, us. But how many know? We've got Jesus in us and he's put his word on the inside of us. So when we speak, it's just as he's speaking. There was enough power in his words to go and deliver that centurion servant and raise him up to free that man's little boy that had been tormented mentally for years. That same power that raised Christ Jesus from the dead, it's on the inside of you. So it's not about even bringing that child up to a ministry line. It's about we're going to lay hands. That anointing is going in and we're going to agree with you that from this day forward, only the life of God is working. All things made new. Can we agree? Say, all things are made new. Amen. Honey, you want to come up here? Go ahead. Let's sing. Have a congregation. Let's agree with these up here. You leave them. And that mind, that brain, that body be made whole and new In Jesus name.
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No. Nothing is gone all things are true. I am in Christ Christ is in me all things are.
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Completely all things are. Your. Nothing is lost all things are new. No Set the foundation I am in Christ Christ is in me all things are loosed I am in Christ Christ is in thee all things un I am. Sam. All things. I am in Christ Christ is in me all things are new. There is no. Nothing is lost all things are new. I am in Christ Christ is in me all things are I am in Christ Christ is in me all things are I am in Christ Christ is in thee all things. Can everybody just worship with us here for a minute? Just lift up your voice and worship. And maybe you want to lift your hand. Just add a song to those lifted hands. Just sing out of your spirit right now. Sa. No sickness, no sadness. Nothing is lost Nothing is lost all things are new all things are new no. Separation I am in Christ Christ is in me all things are new Everybody say that I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things. All. I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things are new. I am in Christ. Christ is in me. All things. Ram it. Well.
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Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Well, we agree. We curse that evil spirit. Send it on its way. Cannot stay any longer. Can't live and dwell where the power of God flows. Where the newness of life dwells. Amen. And we expect testimony, testimonies and reports. Amen. We declare that the newness of life flows from the top of their head to the soles of their feet. That evil spirit cannot stay. Cannot. No matter how long it had taken up residence. It's gone. In Jesus name.
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We thank you, Father, for it. We thank you, Father. We glorify you.
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Praise you. We praise.
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We thank you. We thank you. And just as it was with the leper who returned to give thanksgiving. If you'll. Those of you who had the prayer cloth, if you'll give thanks every day, it will. Not only that spirit is gone, but it will begin to bring the wholeness and restore. Restore the wholeness back. It's through thanksgiving. Thank you, Father. That life is working in my child. That life is working in my family member. I thank you for the life. Not where is it. Do we see it? Do we feel it. But I thank you. That newness of life is working. It's working. I thank you for that life. Always return every day to give thanks for what has been done. Amen.
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Well, praise God. Thank God for the Holy Ghost. Amen. Well, we'll see you tonight. Turn to somebody before you dismiss and say, I'm so thankful for the life of God on the inside of me. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings. Share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Episode Date: May 6, 2025
Host: Dufresne Ministries, with Morgan Dufresne
Location: High Springs, Florida
Series: JTH Crusades 2025, Tuesday Morning Service
In this episode, Morgan Dufresne explores the biblical theme of there being "no separation" between believers and God through Christ, with a special emphasis on how this applies to healing—spirit, soul, and body. The teaching encourages listeners to move beyond sin-, sickness-, or circumstance-consciousness and fully embrace the newness of life that comes from being in Christ. The session is interactive, featuring a practical illustration, worship, testimonies, and a call to apply these truths to life and family, especially regarding healing for children.
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This message by Morgan Dufresne is a passionate call for believers to fully grasp that there is no longer any separation—by sin, sickness, circumstances, or limitations—from God and all He provides through Christ. Morgan challenges the audience to bring the reality of spiritual newness into every part of their lives, refusing to accommodate lingering separation, and to actively receive and maintain divine healing and fullness through meditation on the Word, faith action, and continual thanksgiving.
If you or your loved one is facing a limiting condition, this message insists: Don’t settle. All things are made new—spirit, soul, and body—in Christ, and no separation remains.