Podcast Summary: Not Behind | Joel & Amy Siegel | Tulsa, OK | Monday AM | Miracle Crusade 2023

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Date: April 25, 2023
Guests/Speakers: Joel & Amy Siegel
Event: Miracle Crusade 2023 (Tulsa, OK – Morning Session)

Episode Overview

This episode features Joel and Amy Siegel ministering during the Monday morning session of the Miracle Crusade 2023 in Tulsa, OK. The central theme, "Not Behind," explores the call for believers and the body of Christ to step into their fullness, not lagging or falling behind in the gifts and manifestations God intends for them. Joel and Amy teach from 1 Corinthians 1 and James 5, emphasizing the enrichment of the believer, the necessity of recognizing and responding to the move of God, and the role of effectual, fervent prayer in bringing God's power into manifestation in our world.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. First Responders to God’s Move (00:09–09:20)

• Joel compares spiritual responsiveness to the concept of “first responders,” drawing from John 5 and the pool of Bethesda.
• He challenges listeners to be quick to recognize and respond when God is moving.

Quote:
"If I sense that God's in it, I'm going to go with it. Amen.” – Joel Siegel (02:10)

2. Tulsa Roots, Foundation, and Gratitude (09:21–15:30)

• Joel reflects on personal history in Tulsa, acknowledging spiritual heritage and mentors like Pastor Billy Joe Watts.
• Recognition of the impact Tulsa has had on countless ministers.

3. The Enrichment of the Believer (15:31–34:20)

• Joel unpacks 1 Corinthians 1:4-7, focusing on the concept of being “enriched”—God’s grace making believers more than just human.
• Engages the audience with relatable analogies, such as enriched flour and enriched uranium, to describe God enhancing believers.
• Emphasizes new identity: not just “human,” but “human-enriched”—a “God man.”

Memorable Analogy:
"When you come to the Lord, He’ll take out...all the impurities. What was unusable can power a nuclear submarine… Enriched.” (17:48)

Quote:
"You're not just human. You're human-enriched… a new species. You are the God man." – Joel Siegel (22:49)

4. Manifestations: From Gift to Charisma (34:21–39:50)

• Joel distinguishes between “charis” (grace) and “charisma” (manifestation of that grace)—the root of the word “charismatic.”
• God’s desire is for the Church to not come behind in any manifestation of His gifts, ministry operations, or supernatural demonstrations.

Quote:
"Charisma: the manifestation of God...It's possible to come behind in the manifestation, in the charisma of God." (37:20)

5. Responding and Not Falling Behind (39:51–46:00)

• The episode pivots to discuss how believers can fall behind:
  • By not recognizing or responding to God’s movements.
  • Emphasizing that the timing of Christ’s return is affected by these factors.
• Joel shares the importance of learning to “recognize and respond” to God—a theme emphasized in Kenneth Hagin’s late ministry years.

Quote:
"When people shut down and...disallow God’s movement, that statement ‘we’re closer than ever to the coming of the Lord’—that’s not always true. You could take steps back." – Joel Siegel (42:11)

6. The Critical Role of Prayer (46:01–57:30)

• Joel transitions to James 5:7-16, connecting patient expectation with the effectual, fervent prayer.
• Explores the Greek term “energe” for “effectual, fervent” prayer, linking it to God’s energy and power—a generator for supernatural manifestations.
• Explains that passionate, continued prayer makes God’s power manifest and accessible.

Quote:
"The effectual, fervent prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available—dynamic in its working.” – Joel Siegel (48:42)

• Amy joins in, emphasizing continued, heartfelt prayer (not a one-time event), likening it to medication that loses efficacy if left unused.
• She uses Elijah as an example of commitment in prayer, contending until results are seen.

Quote:
"In prayer, so often we get excited, pray...and then set it on the shelf and let it expire. But James says we need to continue in this.” – Amy Siegel (44:00)
"Fervency is not emotion...but a contending until." – Amy Siegel (46:26)

7. Ministry Prayer and Prophetic Flow (57:31–67:13)

• Joel and Amy lead listeners in corporate prayer—thanking God, invoking spiritual manifestations (“the Wigglesworth anointing”), calling for healings, miracles, and regional saturation of God’s power.
• Emphasis on smaller geographic regions carrying great spiritual influence.
• Prophetic declarations about new body parts, angelic activity, and the undoing of the enemy’s works.

Notable Moment:
"We call for the Wigglesworth anointing. We call for the operation of the miraculous. Step in, step in… all the power is made available." – Amy Siegel (55:19)

8. Importance of Continued Thankfulness & Worship (64:00–67:13)

• Encouragement to maintain a spirit of thanksgiving, worship, and joy as an active response to God’s work and answered prayer.
• The session concludes with a time of thanksgiving and spontaneous worship.

Quote:
"Let’s go from behind to beyond in some areas. Faith is an active waiting—let’s contend until we see in the natural what God has spoken in the spirit." – Joel Siegel (65:45)

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "If I sense that God's in it, I'm going to go with it. Amen." – Joel Siegel (02:10)
• "You're not just human. You're human-enriched—God man." – Joel Siegel (22:49)
• “When people shut down and...disallow God’s movement...you could take steps back.” – Joel Siegel (42:11)
• "The effectual, fervent prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available—dynamic in its working.” – Joel Siegel (48:42)
• "In prayer...we can get excited, pray...and then set it on the shelf and let it expire. But James says we need to continue..." – Amy Siegel (44:00)
• "Fervency is not emotion...but a contending until." – Amy Siegel (46:26)
• "We call for the Wigglesworth anointing. We call for the operation of the miraculous. Step in...all the power is made available." – Amy Siegel (55:19)
• "Let’s go from behind to beyond in some areas." – Joel Siegel (65:45)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• First Responders & Personal History – 00:09–09:20
• Being Enriched in Christ – 15:31–34:20
• Charis vs. Charisma (Grace vs. Manifestation) – 34:21–39:50
• Recognizing & Responding to God’s Move – 39:51–46:00
• Effectual, Fervent Prayer (James 5) – 46:01–57:30
• Amy’s Medical/Prayer Analogy & Elijah Example – 43:25–48:15
• Corporate Prayer, Prophetic Declarations – 57:31–64:00
• Thanksgiving & Worship – 64:00–67:13

Conclusion

Main Takeaways:

• God has enriched every believer, transforming them into more than just human—enhanced and equipped for supernatural living.
• The church must strive to not fall behind in recognizing and responding to God’s gifts and movements.
• Effectual, fervent, continued prayer is critical for making God’s power available and manifest in the earth—this is what positions the church to be “not behind.”
• Fervency in prayer isn’t about emotion, but persistent contending until God’s promises manifest.
• Thanksgiving, worship, and active participation are vital as we cooperate with God’s plan in this hour.

Call to Listeners:
Step in, respond quickly to God’s move, engage deeply in continued prayer, and go from “behind” to “beyond” in everything God’s called you to do.

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