Episode Overview

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode Title: Perfection Through The Word | Kenneth Copeland | Saturday PM | Holy Ghost Meetings 2022
Date: January 9, 2022
Speaker: Kenneth Copeland (hosted by Nancy Dufresne)

This episode features Kenneth Copeland sharing powerful teachings on the biblical path to perfection, focusing on faithfulness, covenant, and the transformative power of the Word of God. Through personal stories, scriptural exposition, and illustrations from church history, Copeland challenges listeners to embrace correction, walk in faithfulness, avoid judgment of others, and receive God's blessings.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Necessity of Correction and Covenant

• Correction as a Sign of Sonship:
  • Copeland begins by referencing Hebrews, highlighting how God corrects His children, stating if we aren’t willing to receive correction, "you're an illegitimate child" (00:44).
  • Quote: "If you're not willing to be corrected, you're an illegitimate child. That's tough talk." — Kenneth Copeland (01:20)
• Blood Covenant: Foundation of Faith:
  • The teaching centers around Genesis 17 and the blood covenant God made with Abraham, drawing the parallel to our relationship with God. The covenant is foundational to spiritual 'perfection.'
  • Copeland shares about Bishop David Oyedepo and learning that prosperity is also part of the covenant, not just healing.
  • Quote: "Prosperity is a covenant." (Narrating Oyedepo, 07:20)
    "When I read 'Seek ye first the kingdom of God...all these things will be added to you'—that closes the book because it's backed by blood." (11:25)

2. God’s Nature and Our Identity

• We Are Spiritual Beings First:
  • Copeland emphasizes that we are “spirit, soul, and body,” created in God's image, and true worship is in spirit and in truth (03:10).
• The Name Change: Abram to Abraham:
  • The significance of God changing Abram's name to Abraham—placing His own name within Abram, symbolizing unity and a new identity (14:03).
  • Quote: "He put his name in the middle. That was the name change. That was the first one on record." (15:35)

3. The Call to Perfection

• Definition of Biblical ‘Perfection’:
  • Copeland clarifies, perfection in scripture is not flawlessness but faithfulness and living a blameless life: “You’ll never be perfect. But we can be faithful and live a blameless life.” (28:25)
• How to Live Blamelessly:
  • Stay in the Word, obey God's instructions, and trust God's faithfulness to watch over His Word to perform it. (28:46)
  • Quote: “I watch over my word to perform it.” (Repeated emphasis, 29:50)

4. The Power of Words, Faith, and the Role of Prophets

• Speaking God’s Words:
  • Drawing from Jeremiah’s call, Copeland teaches that God puts His words in our mouths so He can perform them (38:20).
  • Quote: "You put His word in your mouth, [He] will perform it, because he swore he would. Jesus said, you will have what you say." (41:35)
• Faith and Confession's Impact:
  • Testimony about a young man stepping away from the Word of Faith, warning how speaking contrary to God's Word removes God's ability to perform in one’s life (42:29).

5. Judgement, Forgiveness, and Seed-Time-Harvest

• On Judging Others:
  • Strong admonition against judging others, especially spiritual leaders: "If you judge somebody, you have set the bar, and you will be tried at that level." (82:14)
  • Several illustrative stories on what happens when people judge God's leaders (84:32).
• Forgiveness and the Law of Seed-Time-Harvest:
  • Drawing from Luke 6, Copeland links forgiveness, non-judgment, and generosity as keys to receiving mercy and blessing (79:18).
  • Quote: "Give, and it will be given to you... pressed down, shaken together..." (paraphrased, 79:46)

6. Testimonies of Faith and God’s Miraculous Intervention

• Personal Salvation Story:
  • Copeland and Gloria's salvation journeys are told in detail, showing the power of commitment and transformation (54:48).
• Examples of Healing and Divine Encounters:
  • Vivid stories of miraculous healings witnessed during Oral Roberts tent meetings (116:00), and others of answered prayer, reinforcing the reality of God’s intervention.
• Heaven, Death, and God’s Receiving, Not Taking:
  • Several moving anecdotes about people who’ve passed, teaching that God receives, rather than 'taking,' believers at the end of a faithful life (121:17).
  • Quote: "I started running... power was surging through my legs... all of a sudden, I was back. They were using the paddles on him... 'Charlotte, why did you do that for?'" (Near-death experience, 99:20)

7. Restoration, Blessing, and Final Exhortations

• On Receiving Blessing:
  • The importance of being a receiver—"You can’t bless somebody that won’t receive it." (105:47)
• The Voice of Victory:
  • Origin of "The Believer’s Voice of Victory"—every believer ought to have a voice of victory rooted in what Jesus won for us (111:09).
• Commission to Create:
  • Encouragement for congregation members to birth new praise anthems: “We need a new 'How Great Thou Art.' They’re in there [within the church], but they have to be pulled out.” (115:20)
• Closing Blessings:
  • Copeland and Dufresne close with prophetic encouragement, prayer, and exhortation to walk in faith, be blessed, and anticipate greater miracles (106:30).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Correction:
  "If you're not willing to be corrected, you're an illegitimate child. That's tough talk." — Kenneth Copeland (01:20)
• On Covenant:
  "Prosperity is a covenant…It's backed by blood." (07:20, narrating Bishop Oyedepo)
• On God's Faithfulness:
  "I watch over my word to perform it." (Reiterated, 29:50)
• On Perfection:
  "You'll never be perfect. But we can be faithful and live a blameless life." (28:25)
• On Forgiveness:
  "When you stand praying, forgive. That'll work, won't it?" (77:50)
• On Judgment:
  "If you judge somebody, you have set the bar, and you will be tried at that level." (82:14)
• On Receiving Blessing:
  "You can't bless somebody that won't receive it." (106:00)
• On the Church and Creative Calling:
  "The body of Christ is crying out for more anthems... But we need a new 'How Great Thou Art.'" (115:22)
• On Victory in Christ:
  "Every believer has a voice. And it ought to be the voice of victory..." (111:09)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening/Correction & Covenant Foundation: 00:00-14:00
• Blood Covenant & Testimonies (Bishop Oyedepo): 07:20-13:30
• Abraham & Name Change, El Shaddai: 14:03-17:25
• Perfection and Our Walk: 27:00-29:00
• Faithfulness, Staying in the Word: 29:50-33:10
• Speaking God’s Word & Jeremiah Illustration: 38:20-41:35
• Warning on Judging Others: 82:14-86:25
• Personal Salvation Testimony: 54:48-67:00
• On Forgiveness and Seed-Time-Harvest: 77:50-80:00
• Blessings and Receiving: 105:47-106:47
• The Voice of Victory: 111:09-112:50
• Call for New Anthems (Creative Exhortation): 115:00-115:40
• Testimonies of Healing and Heaven: 116:00-122:30

Structure and Tone

Kenneth Copeland maintains a conversational, story-rich, and exhortative tone throughout, blending scriptural teaching with personal testimony, humor, and compassionate correction. The message is both challenging and uplifting, repeatedly inviting listeners to step deeper into faith, embrace God’s correction, walk in blamelessness, and be receivers of God's abundant blessing.

Summary Takeaways

• Perfection in the biblical sense means faithfulness and living a blameless life, empowered by staying in God’s Word and rooted in divine covenant.
• God’s blessings flow when we receive correction, obey His Word, speak in faith, and avoid judgment and unforgiveness.
• Testimonies and stories reinforce that miracles, transformation, and the supernatural are accessible today.
• The body of Christ is challenged to be creative, vocal, and victorious, anticipating greater things as the end times draw near.
• Ultimately, Copeland imparts a heartfelt, scripturally grounded blessing—inviting all to "be blessed, be healed, be well, be strong in the Lord." (106:08)