Podcast Summary: Praise & Worship, Part Three | Nancy Dufresne | Jesus the Healer Broadcast

Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Date: September 5, 2019
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Main Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne

Overview of the Episode

This episode continues an in-depth exploration of praise and worship as central themes in the Christian life, particularly as they relate to experiencing God’s blessings, miracles, and overcoming opposition. Pastor Nancy Dufresne emphasizes that genuine, skillful worship is the key to bringing the anointing needed for breakthroughs and miracles, and she offers personal stories, biblical examples, and wisdom from noted ministers to inspire listeners to deepen their worship practice.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Importance of Worship for Heaven’s Blessings

• Nancy references a quote from Norval Hayes’ book “Worship” where God said,

  “My children basically love me, but they live in poverty and sickness and defeat. They don’t live in heaven’s blessings because they don’t worship me enough.” (00:16)

• She clarifies that faith, confession, and praying for the sick are good, but worship must be added for the fullness of God’s blessings to manifest.
  • “If you’ll teach my children to worship me more, I’ll do great and mighty things for them...and through them.” (01:57)
• Worship, praise, and rejoicing are described as “companions”; a true worshiper is also joyful.

Skillfulness in Worship and Victory

• Nancy stresses the necessity of being skilled in worship, especially in difficult times:

  “If you’re a worshiper, you’re going to be a joyful person. If you say you’re a worshiper but you’re sad, you’ve not yet tapped into the real flow of worship.” (02:45)

• Real worship isn’t contingent on pleasant circumstances; it continues “when it looks dark, when it looks light, when it looks happy, when it looks sad.” (06:08)
• She references John 4, emphasizing that God seeks those who know how to worship “in spirit and in truth,” not just when circumstances are favorable.

Personal Responsibility and Preparedness

• Nancy recounts the story of Paul, Barnabas, and Silas, observing that not everyone is prepared for the trials that accompany ministry and miracles:

  “Paul was saying that because he knew, I can’t take someone that’s not prepared to worship when they’re hurting.” (08:37)

• God doesn’t put people in places they aren’t prepared for spiritually; preparation for adversity comes through developing a worshipful lifestyle.

Worship Amid Trials and Opposition

• Only praying for God’s manifestation is incomplete; being skillful in worship during challenges is essential.
• Citing Lester Sumrall’s experience of spiritual opposition on the mission field, she underscores the need for preparation, not just hunger for revival:

  “This last day revival doesn’t just call for hunger. It calls for preparation.” (12:47)

• Her personal testimony: After her husband Ed’s passing, Nancy chose to focus on worship and praise to remain in God’s presence and keep grief and sorrow out:

  “My number one job was to stay in the presence of God...worshiped...kept my attention off events. Events will happen, but they’re not worthy of your attention.” (14:19)

Ministering to the Lord Brings Deliverance

• She cites Kenneth Hagin:

  “I believe there is a close relationship between ministering to the Lord and receiving deliverance from tests and trials.” (16:33)

• Paul and Silas in prison are used as an example: they prayed and sang praises, and deliverance came.
• Key difference between worry/complaint and worship:

  “Worry is ministering to your own fear; worship ministers to God.” (17:24)

• Not everyone who faces a need prays, but “only a man of faith will praise when he’s faced with a need.” (Kenneth Hagin, 18:14)

The “Easy Realm” of God

• We must focus on God’s ability, not our impossibilities:

  “All things are easy for God...Worship is you focusing not on what is in your realm, but focusing on what is in His realm. The easy realm.” (18:54)

• Smith Wigglesworth’s story: Success in prayer comes from looking at Jesus rather than the problem.

  “You prayed looking at the dying woman. I prayed looking at Jesus. There’s the key.” (20:08)

Belief Makes the Impossible Possible

• Citing a testimony of a woman during the healing revival witnessing conjoined twins separated instantly, Nancy encourages listeners to expect the impossible by maintaining the right perspective in worship:

  “Do we see many impossible situations changed? Well, do we see it much? No, because people call it hard...Believing means all things are easy.” (19:02, 21:02)

Faith in God’s Supply

• Personal story: When facing massive financial obligations and unexpected IRS notices after her husband’s death, Nancy demonstrated praise and faith:

  “No matter what’s in here, there’s a supply for it. What am I talking about? I’m talking about how easy it is for Him. Why? Because it’s hard for me. But it’s easy for Him.” (22:49)

• The lesson: Don’t project our limitations onto God—He is only what we call Him.

  “If we call Him miracle worker, He will be miracle worker. If we say that it’s hard for us to get our bills paid, it will be hard...It is what we call.” (24:23)

Giving God Loud Praise (Luke 17)

• Nancy retells the story of the ten lepers (Luke 17), focusing on the one who returned to “loudly glorify God” after being healed:

  “He turned back, and with a loud voice, glorified God.” (24:52)

• She draws an analogy for Christians: Are we returning with thanks and praise after receiving from God, or do we forget to give God glory?

Memorable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On worship and blessing:

  “They don’t live in heaven’s blessings because they don’t worship me enough.” (00:23, quoting God via Norval Hayes)

• The joy of true worship:

  “If you say you’re a worshiper but you’re sad, you’ve not yet tapped into the real flow of worship.” (02:45)

• Preparedness for ministry:

  “Paul was saying that because he knew, I can’t take someone that’s not prepared to worship when they’re hurting.” (08:37)

• Presence of God in grief:

  “My number one job was to stay in the presence of God...That was how. I worshiped.” (14:19)

• Faith and praise:

  “Only a man of faith will praise when he’s faced with a need.” (18:14, quoting Kenneth Hagin)

• Perspective in worship:

  “You prayed looking at the dying woman. I prayed looking at Jesus. There’s the key.” (20:08)

• Overcoming impossibility:

  “Believing means all things are easy...God does what we do. If we call it hard and we approach it as hard, then we’re not going to believe right.” (21:02)

• God’s supply is limitless:

  “No matter what’s in here, there’s a supply for it...Don’t accuse him of what our inabilities are. And that’s what we do—we approach him based on our inability.” (22:49–24:07)

• The importance of returning thanks:

  “Where are the nine?...Where are you? When you receive something from this church, where are you?” (26:14–27:18)

Notable Timestamps for Major Segments

• The lack of worship and God’s blessings: 00:16–02:30
• Praise, worship, and the anointing: 02:30–04:14
• Skillfulness in worship during adversity (Paul/Barnabas/Silas): 04:15–11:45
• Personal testimony of worship in loss: 14:19–15:30
• Ministering to the Lord for deliverance: 16:33–18:54
• All things easy in God – shifting perspective: 18:54–21:02
• Faith for the impossible (testimonies): 20:08–22:49
• Faith and supply in financial trial: 22:49–24:23
• Loud thanks and the story of the ten lepers: 24:52–27:18

Tone and Style

Pastor Nancy’s tone is warm, encouraging, and faith-filled, with a blend of practical wisdom and scriptural exposition. She shares personal anecdotes, classic faith stories, and challenges listeners, all while maintaining a pastoral and empowering approach.

Conclusion

This episode challenges listeners to cultivate a deeper, more skillful practice of praise and worship—not as rituals, but as the vital key to accessing God’s anointing, blessings, and miracles. Through biblical teaching, powerful testimonies, and striking quotes from faith leaders, listeners are equipped and encouraged to “give praise, worship, and rejoicing its proper place” (03:48) for living victoriously and experiencing the fullness of God in their lives.