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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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I want to share with you something that the Lord really spoke to me. And this, this happened before our Canada meetings, but not this year, the previous year. So 2023 last year. And you know what? I try not to be what you would call a sensational preach. You know, like news media can be sensational, meaning they're just, they're. They're wanting clicks, they're wanting people to read, and so they'll put headlines on that aren't even true. You know, like, like your favorite team trading all its players. And then real small print says proposed. You know, I mean, it's not like we said yesterday, there's truth and then there's full truth, you know, and so I don't. I'm not a. I'm not looking for clicks.
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Click. I'm not fishing for things, so I'm not trying to throw stuff out that's sensational. But when God speaks certain things to you, they're very weighty and so many times they're eternal and they carry. They carry for a long time. I haven't been prompted to really say this in our more recent meetings, but I've been very prompted to say it here and gonna do it right now. And that is before those meetings In Canada in 2023, the Lord spoke something to me about healing. And he said, I'm on a healing rampage. A healing rampage. Now, again, that's not just language to get a response, because it sounds cool when he used that word rampage. All I could. My concept of what that would be was something we don't like to think about or talk about, which would be a shooting rampage or somebody goes into a store. But think about what happens on a rampage. A shooting rampage. They're trying to get as many people as they can get, and they're indiscriminate. The shooter I'm talking about, that's what a rampage is. They're trying to get as many as they can get. And they're indiscriminate, meaning they might like blondes, but they don't care. On that day if you're blonde, you get whoever. Whoever and as many as possible. Whoever and as many as possible. Glory to God. I want to announce to you, I want you to know this, that he always has been, actually and always will be on a healing rampage. As many as he can and whoever he can. Indiscriminate. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. If you hadn't been the best Christian. You with me now. And it's happening here. It's happening here, and it's happening now. And we're going to minister some other things this morning. But while we're ministering these other things, I'm telling you today, healing is occurring. Healing is. You understand? Tonight's. Tonight's going to be an opportunity. Help have hands laid on you. There's no requirement that you must wait for that. You understand that God is free. I say God is free to heal. And so listen, if. If. If while we're ministering, if you suddenly notice that things are different, normally, I'm not going to ask for this, but today it'd be okay for you to just holler out, glory to God. You could just holler that out. Not joking, not being funny. Perfectly serious. Amen. He's on it. He's on a healing rampage. I want to move off of this, and there's something that I can't move off of it just. Just quite yet. Ha ha ha. Thank you, Father. Glory to God. Glory to God. So let's just thank him for that. Thank you. Thank you, master. Glory to God. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Glory. Thank you. Pray this with me, friends. Father, thank you that I'm healed now, today, here, by your goodness that's overflowing me, flooding me, overfilling me with healing power. We have it now. We say it's now. I say I'm well. I say I'm whole. I say I'm strong. And I'll be that way long, my whole life. Long, strong, full of days and days that are full of your glory and your goodness and your power. Ha. Thank you, Master. It's so. It's so. Ha. Glory to God. It's so. Ha ha. Yeah. It's so. It's so. Glory to God. Glory to God. You know? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Master. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to just read to you a verse along these lines. Hadn't planned to do this, but one of my favorite verses, healing verses in the ministry of Jesus, this is over. In Luke 9, verse 6, it says to talking really about his disciples. And when he sent them out, you all remember that? And it said they departed and went through the towns, preaching the gospel and healing everywhere. Healing everywhere. They're going to put this up. Look at those. Look at those last two. Look at those last two words. Healing everywhere. Healing everywhere. That's a rampage. That's a rampage. Everywhere, Everywhere. Healing everywhere. Healing everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere you go. Amen. Every person. You know, when Jesus ministered healing so much of the time, of course we have some one on one accounts, but we also have these mass accounts of healing, you know, where. Well, just like over in Luke 4. I'm going to go to Luke 4. This is so not what I've. Glory to God. But we just, we chill. How many here are chill? How many Literally chilly. Like I'm. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Luke. Luke 4:40. I mean, if you, you should have Luke 4:40 highlighted. It's too, it's too good. It's too good. Luke 4:40. You can put these up there because now, now that I know you can do it. I want it and I want it. See if Pastor Nancy has it. I want it. You know, she gets a scripture up there. I won't. It says when the sun was setting. You see it? When the sun was setting, all they. But this works in the morning too. All they. All that had any. You see these words? All. Any. All that had any sick with diverse diseases brought them unto him. And he laid his hands on every one and healed them. Laid his hands on everyone and healed them. So he was indiscriminate. How many know that? Not everyone in this crowd that came had time to be vetted. Like, have you been a good Jew? Right? Have you. Have you broken. Have you broken the law at all? They all had everybody. That's the idea of the law. To show us all guilty before Christ. Amen. Someday. Praise the Lord. But Jesus, when he ministers to groups of people. All, all. And there were times where he would just. Where he doesn't say he would lay hands, but there's times like this where he would even lay hands on all of them. Amen. Well, that's going to happen tonight. Praise God. Glory to God. But there's healing happening today. There's healing happening today. And remember, we want to hear from you even if it's. Even if it's mid. What we're doing. Praise the Lord. I want to look at the verse that we've been looking at just this whole week over in John 16, and particularly call your attention to one part of it. Hallelujah. Glory to God. You happy in Jesus? Me too. Me too. Getting all I came for today. Trust. Believe in God with us. I don't have necessarily. I have just a starting point that that's what we have Today. And I know there's other things we're going to get to. And let's believe God that it's just what it's supposed to be. Nothing less, nothing more. Amen. Over in John 16 in the amp, this is in the amplified we were reading. In verse 13 it says, but when he, the spirit of truth, the truth giving spirit comes, he will guide you into all the truth, the whole full truth. For he'll not speak his own message on his own authority, but he will tell whatever he hears from the Father. Thank you, Jesus. He will give the message that has been given to him. And he will announce and declare to you the things that are to come that will happen in the future. Praise God. We need not be blindsided. We need not have the future. Just catch us unaware and off guard. Friends. It should be expected because of the relationship you have with the one that lives in you. You should expect to know. I said, you should expect to know. Know what? What you are. What God needs you to know. I think that's a good way to say it. We understand we're not going to know everything about everything. The spirit of God's not. He's not the divine gossip. He's not the holy gossip, the gossip of the God. No, he's. He's not a gossip, meaning he's not disclosing to you everything about everybody else. Amen. And, you know, so that could. Because that's an area people get tripped up on and they think, well, you know, I have the gift of somehow some kind of gift of discernment, and I'm able to tell what's wrong with other people. I remember when I was in Bible school one time, a lady in the class said, well, I have a. I have the ministry of correction. Well, it's going to be a lonely ministry if you don't balance that out with some stuff. You know what I mean? I preached for a. I preached for a pastor once, and the operative word is once. And they're such sweet people. They actually did invite me back again, but it never happened. But anyhow, so far, hadn't happened. But anyhow, I was there. And afterwards they came up and, you know, I don't need somebody to say, boy, wasn't that great? I mean, you know, if it flopped. I know, but anyhow, this wasn't. I mean, this was good. We did what God said do. And they came up and they said, yeah, you know, I think the pastor's wife said, you know, pastor and I have more like love and mercy gifts. I'm like, well, what did I just do? I'm sorry, what? Amen. Can we please get back to what we're supposed to be doing here? Can we? So he'll show you things that are to come, things that will happen in your future. You know, many years ago, when my dad was 20 years older than my mom. And so my dad lived a really good, full life, had a great life, great dad. And he died at the age, I want to say he was, was he 86 or 87? But was really, up until just the last couple months of his life, was playing tennis every day and just real healthy and real active. My dad was. And so my mom's still alive, but so my dad passed away back in 2006 at that age. But I mean, it wasn't maybe how long ago before he passed away? We started to pick up about six months ahead of time. We just started to pick up on it. And like I said, he was in perfect health. And the Lord just dealt with us. Get the kids who were really young at the time and go down to. We lived in Hollywood, Florida, so between Fort Lauderdale and Miami, that's where my family was from. And they said, get down there and get the kids down there to see Granddad, you know, and that's all. We just had this sense. Well, what was that? What was that? He was showing us things to come. It was a little confusing because we went down there and here he is just, you know, in high gear like always, just doing great. But it wasn't too long after that visit that, you know, things started to just decline, deteriorate. And then about four weeks afterwards, and then he ended up, he ended up leaving. And God prepared us, God prepared us ahead of time. He'll prepare you for things to come. He'll prepare you for things that you have to deal with. Amen. How does he do that? The he, the spirit of truth, when the spirit of truth comes. This is part of his ministry to reveal things to you a number of years ago. Well, 2020 to be exact. God dealt with my wife. We did not at the time. We had been in between, at a place in between where we didn't have health insurance because of what we do. Ministry wise. We haven't always just along the way. There's been times we've had it, times we haven't had it. But he dealt with my wife, get health insurance for all of you guys, for us. And so what do you do with that? Well, you don't take it and, and get in fear and say well, why, why, why, why? It's always God's goodness. He's always leading you by his goodness. And so he said, get health insurance. And so she got health insurance. And because God led her that way, she got good stuff, decent health insurance. Well, now, there's another part. There's another part to this story, which I'll get to, but there's another part before this story. This kind of thing doesn't happen just because God likes Joel and Amy, which he does. Amen. Doesn't happen just because we're good looking. But we are. We know that. I mean, she tells me I am. So that's all I know. That's all I know. Got to listen to the right voices. Got to listen to the right voices. When I was a teenager, before I was saved, when voices used to tell me how ugly I was, you might say, brother Joel, you should listen to this. No, no, no, I'm not. That was my problem. I was listening. I would listen. I'd look in the mirror and voice. I would hear voices saying, you are so ugly. Yep. Well, it's not because I'm so special. The enemy will do that to anybody who will listen. And he'll say, you'll never get. You'll never get a girlfriend. You'll never have a wife. But I told you yesterday who I dated.
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NBA cheerleader. We got to there listening to the music. I get engrossed real easily and stuff. And I looked around, they're gone. Praise the Lord. But it's true. Anyhow, anyhow. It's not just because of that. No, it's because we spend time in the information loop that we've been talking about. We're going to get to the verse where God is the spirit of God, draws from the Father and transmits to us. He doesn't just do that for preachers. He'll do that in a measure for everybody. And so God dealt with her, and so we got the insurance, and then God dealt with her. Schedule physicals for everybody.
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Well, why?
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That's not the realm where answers from heaven are found. Well, why turn that off? Because God said so, that's why. And he's being good to us. We know he's being good to us. And so she scheduled physicals for me. So I went and I took my physical. Now you might say, why did God deal with her and not with you? Because if God told me, go to the doctor, I'm a man. Do I have any witnesses? And men are. Men are like, I feel fine. I'm fine. Why do I need a checkup? I know if something's wrong. Why do I need a checkup? You do. You. But my wife said that God impressed her and that's good for me. And truthfully, I'm just going to be real transparent. I. I probably would have gotten in fear about it and God probably was dealing with me and I wouldn't. That's not something I wanted to hear. So, anyhow, long story short, what's the pastor say? Too late. So we went and got physicals. Hers was fine, of course. And they called, they called me and they said, your numbers are really high for your prostate thing. And I said, okay. Paid no attention. Paid no attention to it. Yeah, your numbers are high. But they said on the phone, we're going to get you a referral to a urologist, whatever. Well, anyhow, long story, not so long. Turns out that they discovered I had prostate cancer. And then they used words like aggressive. They use words like advanced, you know, when they're going through it. But see, we're not behind. We're not behind this. We're in front of this. And so, you know, God led us to a good doctor. Gosh, would God use a doctor? Would the God who's on a healing rampage use a doctor? How can you minister healing and go to the doctor real easy? I want to be here to minister healing real easy. But the thing is, what are we doing? We're being led. We're being led. And if God leads you. Listen, if God leads you, go to the service. Just receive laying on of hands and don't go. If God leads you, don't go to the doctor, then still check with your pastor. Still follow the counsel of some people who are farther along with you because again, many people just fabricate in their mind, well, I don't want to do this. And because they don't want to do this, they don't do it. I don't know if I'm talking to somebody this morning. Wasn't planning on saying this here, but anyhow. So God led us to a great doctor. Just happened to be the head of three different robotic surgery programs, just happened to be the head of all those and a pioneer. And I ended up having surgery. You might say, well, what a failure. You don't understand when you remove something from your life that left in place could kill you. That's a win. Now, some places I can't use sports illustrations. Some churches I go to because I like sports illustrations. My wife and I watch sports. That counts for something. But anyhow, there's some churches I go to and you give a sports illustration and it just goes nowhere. And you gotta find out what do these people do to connect with. But anyhow, any coach will tell you that a win is a win. Doesn't matter if it's an ugly win, it's a win, It's a win. Amen. And so, long story short, praise God, I'm here today. This is years ago now. This years ago. I'm here today and healthy and strong because God showed us things to come and he helped us be in front of it instead of behind it. Now, we caught this at the right time. The doctor said, you know, if you had waited a couple more years, you wouldn't have a happy story. Well, why didn't we wait a couple. Why did we do it then and not wait a couple more years? Because he showed us things to come, friends. He is faithful to do this. He is faithful to lead us. He is faithful to help us. Amen. Glory to God. Aren't you thankful? You know, it's not that I'm more important than you. I'm not more important than you. He will do the same for you. He will help you and show you what you need to know about your future. He will lead you in line with his very best. Amen. Glory to God. Well, what if it looks to come to pass in a different way than you thought? Like, well, I'd rather just believe God for my. I wouldn't have even known about it. I had no symptoms. Wouldn't have even known about it had we not gotten checked. Never have had any symptoms to this day. Haven't had any symptoms. Glory to God. And just so good. Just so good. And really, the hand of God was all the way through it. The surgeon came out after the surgery and said to my wife, man, I went to disconnect some nerves and stuff that you have to disconnect. And he said, they just fell, right? They just like fell right off. Instead of me having to cut and cut and paste, copy and paste, whatever. And then they say afterwards, and if you're in nursing at all, you might even know this, they say afterwards, it's going to be anywhere from like six weeks to six months that you're not going to be able to control your bladder. And once they got me buttoned up and back together, and then you spend a couple weeks before you go back, then when I went back and they let you go on your own. Not one day, not one day. See, that's God. God will get in things not one day of not being able to control. That's good, that's good, that's good. And the doctor found out about that and he said, I never will figure out the human body. I'm like, doc, don't tell people that you're supposed to know these things. He'll declare to you. Things that are to come, that will happen in the future, he will honor. This is the verse I want to get to in the amplified. And we'll have you put this one up if you haven't. He will honor and glorify me because he will take of, receive, draw upon what is mine, and will reveal, declare, disclose, transmit it to you. This whole. I call it the heavenly information loop, where you can be in this place where the Spirit of God is drawing on all that the Father has and transmitting it to you. But what I want to. And we've seen this the last couple days and it's impressive to me. I don't know if it's impressive to you. I think this is amazing. I mean, if it was true, it is true. You understand? It is true. If this is true, this is amazing. If it was really true, it would be awesome. It is true. It is true. He's doing this for us, but we're the ones. What I want us to see is we need to insert ourselves into this loop because this is something that happens in the spiritual reality realm. Amen. So we have to insert ourselves into this loop and we do that by engaging in spiritual activity. Spiritual activity moves us into the spiritual realm. And one of the activities that we're emphasizing here this week, we talked yesterday about praise, worship, thanksgiving, but praying in other tongues. Praying in other tongues. Glory, glory to God. Receiving from him. And see, that's that we're receiving from him the utterances. And that puts us in this loop. Amen. Where as we're praying, as we're praying, anything that he wants to transmit now, it doesn't always happen in English, doesn't always need to happen in English. You don't always realize it while you're praying very often with us, it's just the fact that we have been in the spirit helps us pick up on things later. Amen. But I'm telling you, this is. We are. No, we're not our nation. This America had an industrial age where everything was product based and product based and building. But for many years now, really decades, we've been more in what you could call the information age. The information age, meaning knowing things is everything. How do you succeed in our day there's other people that probably naturally know more than you. There's no one that knows more than him. If you'll keep yourself in this loop. I said if you'll keep your. Which means keep yourself in the spirit, which means taking time to pray in the spirit, and then really living in the spirit so you're never that far out. If you'll take that time, if you'll make that investment, I promise you, God can reveal to you the next thing. I mean, the next thing that's needed in this country. Here's one. How about a way to control where hurricanes land? You might say that's impossible. So far. So far. Oh, you say they're doing it. Maybe there's something. I don't know, but I mean, if there was a way to even out the weather. If there was a. I'm just saying, naturally speaking, there's questions that are out there waiting for somebody to solve. You ain't going to solve it just because of your own DNA. You understand that? Just because you're so genius. But the real genius, the real genius lives in us. The real genius lives in us. And he can help you. He can help you. He can help you. And there's. You don't believe me? Ask Einstein. Come on, ask. Ask some smart people that actually attribute their answers to God. Amen. You have to keep yourself in this loop. One of the ways you do that is by speaking in other tongues, praying in other tongues. Amen. You keep yourself there. You keep yourself there. You keep yourself there. Then we looked at First Corinthians 14:2 the other day. You remember that? First Corinthians 14:2.
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He who speaks in an unknown tongue speaks not unto men, but unto God. No man understands him howbeit in the spirit he speaks mysteries, divine secrets, secret truths. And hidden what? Hidden things. Secret truths, hidden things. This really helps if you're a parent. We were out of town one time. Our daughter was old enough to be left at home, and we had a rule. Any parent should have this rule, no boys at the house while we're gone.
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Shouldn't even need to say it. Shouldn't even need to say it. But we said it. We said it. And we were on our trip, and all of a sudden we're out at a restaurant. I think we were out at a restaurant or something, and my wife and I looked at each other and she said, somebody's at the house. You might say, do you have a ring app? No, we didn't have an app that told us we didn't have our security camera.
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She said, somebody's at the house. And so we have some folk that help us in town there. And so she called one of the gals and she said, drive by the house. Let me know if there's any cars in the driveway. And she drove by the house. She said, there's a red car there. Oh. And I said, I got it. I got this. I got on the phone and I just put. You know, I wasn't sweet. I wasn't sweet. I said, who's there? Jordan. Boom, boom. And I mean. I mean, his pants were on fire. He was out of that house. He was out of that house. We're not doing nothing. They weren't doing it. They weren't doing anything. My daughter, you know, she'd find the edge, but she wasn't gonna. Did break that rule. But anyhow, he was out of the house so darn. So fast. Amen. And you know what ended up happening?
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What do you want to happen when you leave your daughter home by herself? Nothing. What do you want to happen when your son's home by himself? Nothing. That's why. Nothing. Nothing happened because we were in the loop. And you can live there. He'll do this for you. Listen, I talked yesterday about this whole regenerative. Regenerative. Can't say it. Somebody say it. Regenerative breaking. Right When. Not only when you're praying in tongues, not only are you receiving from God his transmissions, not only is the spirit transmitting knowledge to you, but you in turn, by your prayers, are generating power for the situations you're even praying about. There's a power generating aspect to prayer. And I read to you, which I'm not going to reread, but I read to you Brother Hagin's. You know, some of that was actually from his book Tongues that he has, how one of the big needs in our day is people who will commit to pray and not just commit to pray. But we'll do it. But we'll do it. See, we're in. I told you about that healing rampage. We're in that now. We're in that. We're in what we call the last days revival. No longer. Brother Hagin, when he was writing about it, said, it's on the horizon. No longer is it on the horizon. Matter of fact, if you want to get me angry, don't get me angry. But if you want to get me angry, start talking about we're on the verge and it's on the horizon and it's off all it's way out yonder somewhere. You do that. I'll say, bring it. Come here, come here, come here, come here. Don't you do that. Don't you talk about, don't you talk about what's coming. Anybody can walk by sight. It's here, it's now. That's why we said that rampage. It's here, it's now, it's today. Still expecting somebody to holler praise the Lord because, because your body's changed this morning. Amen. Hallelujah.
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You know, you said you, you weren't going to read what you read yesterday in tongues, but I want to read just a little bit of what he said after what he read yesterday about. Remember what he was reading. I hope you were here about this end time move that we are in is going to be a combination of all these other waves or moves of God. Increase, increased in power. Praise God. A combination of all of them. Plus. But then he went on to say, but as more and more of us respond to God's call to pray, there will begin to be a greater and greater manifestation of his power and glory in and on this earth. The manifestation and demonstration of God's spirit will become as common and as real as everyday natural things are to us. That's what we're talking about, stepping into this realm of God where it's as natural to us as the natural realm is to everyone else. Praise the Lord.
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He says, you see, the realm of.
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The spirit is actually the natural realm for us who are born of the Spirit. I'm going to say that again. The realm of the spirit is actually the natural realm for us who are born of the spirit. Of course it's necessary that we walk in the natural realm to a certain extent because our bodies are natural and have natural functions. We must live in that natural realm. But on the other hand, we can let our spirits have the continual privilege of communicating with the Father of Spirits. We can let our spirits move out beyond the natural on a daily basis.
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This is not to be goofy. This is not to be weird. This is not to walk around, as.
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Pastor Nancy would say, with one eye kind of raised and you know, you know, this is not to look bizarre in the grocery store. It's spirit, it's spirit. It doesn't look odd in the natural. I mean, when we come to church and people start running around and a natural person is not used to that, I mean, that's gonna look a little odd. I get that. I understand that. But we're talking about in prayer, we're stepping into a place that's a different realm, but it shouldn't be so different for us. It should be very much home. It should be very comfortable to be there. Praise the Lord. And this is not something that we have to work up, force our way into, you understand? When you were born again, you were made brand new.
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God came to live. He's already in us. Glory to God. That realm is right there. And when we yield to other tongues.
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We step right there. Praise God. He's in us. He's in us. There's an ease to that which he wants us to dwell in. Praise the Lord. You know, when I get on a plane and go home, it's easy to walk in my front door or the back door, really into the. From the garage. It's easy to walk in and say, ah, I'm home. I'm home. I love landing in Colorado. Why? Because it's home. Glory to God. I get excited every time the plane hits the ground there in Denver, like home. And I love that feeling. I'm home. You can have that feeling in God. Glory to God every day of your life. Because he's home. He's home. And that's. So when we're talking about this information loop, hearing from him, this is not something we are struggling. Oh, God. I want to. I want to hear. I want to hear you. I want to hear you. We're not talking about voices. We're talking about a realm. We're talking about a place. We're talking about him being in you, where he. You just know. You read the Word and it comes alive. You can see, you can know, you can hear. It's not like the natural realm. It's different, but it can still be home. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Glory to God. You sat down.
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He went on to say this. God wants us to move out further in the Spirit and learn how to maneuver in the greater realm of prayer as we are faithful to obey his call, to pray. The day will come when we will move beyond the edge of space, further out into the Spirit, and reach the fullness of God's glory. Praise the Lord. The fullness of God's glory. There are. There are things we can affect there. There are places that we can make a difference in this world. And I'm sorry, guys, it's not going to come by what you post on Social. All you're doing there is making some people mad and some people happy. You're not changing anybody's opinion this is not about changing opinions. This is about getting into the information.
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Loop where the creator of the heavens and the earth, who knows all, will help communicate to you exactly what needs to be said and decreed on the earth. And you can make an effect on the earth. Glory to God by cooperating with him. Hallelujah. Glory to God. We need the body of Christ to learn how to pray.
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No, don't go, don't go nowhere. So, yes, you know when we talk about things like moves of God, revivals, things that we want to see. Yes. And what's the purpose of these things? Well, there's a grand purpose. The purpose ultimately is the return of the Lord. He cannot return until the harvest has been reaped. The harvest can't be reaped until the rain of the outpouring of the Spirit has been fully received in the earth. Because how many know? If we could reap the harvest without God's supernatural outpouring, we would have done that already. But we can't. It's going to take the supernatural. And this is where, this is where prayer has its great effect, in that I told you about that power generating aspect of, of prayer that as we pray, power is made available. If I can use this, just an illustration, not literally, but spiritual tanks, spiritual reservoirs can be filled up. And what that means is, what that translates into is things like this, you're having a service. And in the service, of course, we have the service in the, this, in an auditorium like this, we call it a big room. Right. But there's not just physical rooms, there's also spiritual rooms or places. And so within this physical room there's also spiritual rooms with spiritual things in it. And when your pastor or whoever's ministering comes into the physical room, we want them to be able to just step right into spiritual rooms. And what we want is everything that God has designed and planned for a service for that to be able to come to pass. Meaning that there's nothing that God wants to do that isn't recognized, that is missed and don't listen. You have to understand that. And it's not a knock on the preacher oftentimes, but there's many times that services reach only 50 or 60% of God's planned potential for that service. That happens, but it doesn't have to happen. And so what can happen is if we will, if we will take our place in prayer, that power will be generated to the point where the things of God's realm become what we call tangible, become easily perceived. And you Come in, and the preacher comes in. And when he steps into the pulpit, he steps into a place in the spirit and starts picking up on things. Pastor Nancy demonstrated some of that last night. If you were here for. Yeah, walking into some things. Well, see, that doesn't happen when a place is what we call spiritually dry. When there's nothing in the spiritual reservoir is when there's no power that's been made available. And really, if I can even speak to this church here, meaning those that are normally part of this church, it should be the goal of all here to have a place. And this applies to any church, whatever church you're from, it should be your goal that when an unbeliever or even somebody new who might be a Christian or not, but when people walk through the doors, they also step into. They also walk into God, meaning his presence is so strong even in the room that when they get to. Like when an unbeliever gets to church, he can't mentally process what's going. But he's like, something's different here. I need to pay attention. And his life ends up being forever changed because of. Because of this God encounter. And really nothing might happen in the service beyond what we would call normal things. Preaching, teaching, whatever. But something's just on it. And God gets in the seat with the people. We ought to want that. We ought to want God. So his presence and his spirit just so tangible and palpable in the room that when we walk in the room, we sense, oh, my gosh, my goodness. I think sometimes about. We pastored in Buffalo, New York, for 11 years, and we had a building most all of that time. And then the last year, we were going through transition because God was moving us, going to be moving us to a different place and different state and all that. So the last year, we had vacated the building that we had, and we're in another building and. Long story about that, don't even go there. But anyhow, we were still storing some stuff with permission in our prior building, and we would go there sometimes to get some things out of the storage part of it. And we walk in the sanctuary, and it was like. We walk in and it's like, oh, my Lord, take your shoes off your feet. God still. I mean, the presence was still so strong there months after we weren't even in the building anymore. Amen. That's all.
C
Praise the Lord.
B
What else do you have?
D
Let's pray.
B
Yeah, we're going to pray a little bit. Is that all right?
C
Praise, praise, praise, Praise Father we're so grateful. You can stand if you like to change your position. It's totally up to you. Praise you, Father. We're so grateful. Thank you so. Oh, my. Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the best.
C
Yes.
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Yes. Thank you Today.
C
Today. Today that we can be in your presence. Thank you that today you're here with us and we're with you.
E
Thank you.
C
Thank you. Thank you that today power can be made available.
E
Thank you for the.
C
For opening the eyes.
E
Opening the eyes of our understanding. Thank you that we see, that we know. The increase of the.
C
Thank you.
E
Thank you for the body. Thank you for the body. Thank you for the body of Christ. Thank you for the body of Christ. Thank you for the body. Thank you for the body. Thank you for the body.
C
For the pastors.
E
Oh.
D
Oh, my.
C
For the pastors.
E
Thank you for the divine equipment. Thank you for the equipment. For the pastors, oh, for the fullness of the pastor's office. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father. Oh, for a bakata. Oh, for a bakata. For all the pastors being able to step into that office. Step into that place in the fullness. In the fullness. In the fullness of that office. Thank you.
C
Thank you.
E
Thank you. Thank you for the equipping of the body. The equipping of the body. The equipping of the body also strengthened. Strengthened. Strengthen. Strengthened with the word. Strengthened with the spirit. Strengthened with the word. Strengthened with the spirit.
D
Thank you.
C
Thank you.
E
Thank you for the bakate. Oh, for the increase. For the increase. For the increase. An increase in hunger. An increase in hunger. An increase in hunger. Increasing in increasing. Bread.
B
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, master. Thank you, master. Thank you, master. There's some. If I could interrupt just for a minute, there's some here right now that are having this thought, if I may. This thought that seems like I should do this. Seems like I should do this. I'm not talking about here in the service. I'm talking about decisions in your life. Seems like I should do this thing. Seems like that's God. When you get in his presence and it seems like you should do this, that's the spirit showing you what you need to know. Amen. Especially if it's every time I get in the presence of God. Just seems like. Just seems like. Don't wait for an audible voice. Don't discount that. Don't discount that. Amen. Amen. Now we're going to jump back into prayer and let's just. Let's just focus on our nation's Election coming up, if we can do that. Yeah. Yep. So, Father, we thank you. Thank you. The right ones in every state. The right ones for the nation. Yeah, the right ones. Yes, yes, yes. And some surprises. Some surprises in there. Haha. Angle Nasi Gap, Angle stats, Angle station. Yes. That we live a quiet and peaceable life. Quiet and peaceable. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Glory. Glory. Yes. Yes, we give thanks. Yes, we give thanks. We give thanks. Hallelujah. Yeah. Yeah. Hallelujah. Glory to God. I know we didn't pray terribly long, but how many believe God heard us? You know, we're to believe we receive when we pray, even when we're praying in other tongues. We believe we receive when we pray. Hallelujah. Glory to God. Thank you. Glory to God. You can be seated for a moment. Hallelujah. Before we go a different direction in the service, you know, let us, let us say, because we probably won't. Won't get to say it otherwise, what a joy it's been to be with you. It's an honor, you know, really, for us that, that God would have designed that we be part of these meetings. And of course, we love running our race with Pastor Nancy. That's just such privilege. Many of us do. So what an honor. Thank you for being so receptive, receiving us.
D
Thank.
B
Thank you. So sweet. So sweet of you. Tell us what you got.
C
Praise the Lord. Just seems. I know we're getting a little bit late, so if you need to go, you can. But just seem. Seems like there might be some people that want a little more of him. And if that's. You would like to.
B
Yeah, here's what, here's what we want to do. I'd like to start with if you're. If you're mid-20s or under and your age. I'm talking about mid-20s. And don't. Don't be legalistic. If you're a couple months away, fine. We're not. We're not going to card you. If you're. If you're in your mid-20s or younger and you say, I. Something in me burns for God and I want more of him, then I'm going to invite you if that's you and you're in that age group, but invite you to come up. And we're just going to, you know, because the Bible talked about the Holy Spirit transmitting what the Father has to you. Another way that that can happen is through the laying on of hands, transmission occurs. Would you. In the congregation Would you allow for this and stay hooked up just for a little bit? If that's you, if you're in that age group, go ahead and get up now if you want. We're talking about, you know, mid-20s and younger. Under 30. That's what we meant to see. Under 30, if you want. Yeah. And listen, you will. God's got something for each and every one of you. Your job's to receive it. And I'm telling you, you'll not. You'll not be the same. You'll not be the same. You'll not be the same. Ushers, where do you want us to start? This way. Thank you, Joel. Glory to God. Everybody in the line, just put your hands out like these have their hands out. Glory to God. Easy, easy, easy. The plan of God is easy. Say it with me. Easy, easy, easy. Oh, oh. The plan of God is easy. Say it again. Easy, easy, easy. The plan of God is easy.
D
Shout mama, mama, mama. Oh.
B
Glory to God. Oh, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. More of what we said yesterday. More of it. More of it. More of it. More of it. More of it. More of it. More of it.
D
Ah.
B
My, my, my. Yes, yes. Oh, mama, mama, mama. Great, great reward. Great reward. Great reward. Yeah. My mom. Oh, my goodness. Nanny cake. My goodness, girl. My goodness. Wow. Wow. What did I say to you last time I laid hands on you? You said.
D
Wow.
C
You said, get serious with the things that of God.
B
Get serious with the things of God. I said that? Yeah. Have you been doing that? I believe it. I believe. Be blessed. Be blessed. Be blessed. Hey, be blessed. Be blessed. Be blessed, sis. Be. Oh, bear. Be blessed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my, my, my, my, my, my, my. You get well. Well, God's got some things for you to do. God's got some things for you to do in your life. Of course, that's every. Every one of us, but he's got. You'll find out. You'll find out. Ha ha ha ha ha. Hey, sweet love, how you doing? Be blessed. Be blessed. Thank you, father. Give me a. Give me right now. If you're not in that age group and you want to come, you can come. Follow the ushers through directions. Yay. Yay, yay. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.
D
Sam.
B
Oh, my mama. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sis. Fredonia. Sis. Fredonia. Fredonia. Fredonia. Put your hands on people. They that they shall lay hands on the sick, they shall recover. Use your hands. Use your hands. Put your hands on people. My cause There's There's.
C
There's.
B
There's. There's something for you there. Be blessed. Be blessed. Oh, my God.
D
Sam.
B
Bless people. Be blessed. Blessed in jesus. Name. Marguerite Margaret. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
Sa. Sam.
B
Push me up, Push me up, Push me up.
C
Never the same.
B
Yeah.
D
Back off of me a little bit, Sam.
B
Travis. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. More of that. More of that. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Run, Turn around and Run Turn around and.
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Hey, hey, hey.
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Oh, yeah.
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Come on, get it. Get us up.
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Get me up. Hey, hey whoa, whoa hey, hey Whoa, whoa, hey, hey Whoa, Whoa, whoa yeah. Oh Whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa Come on, come on, come on. Sa. Hey oh, my oh, my oh, my oh, my oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Ham oh.
B
Hey.
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Hey, hey, hey hey oh, oh, Oh. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh.
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Sam.
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Episode: Revealing Things To Come | Joel & Amy Siegel | Collinsville, Oklahoma | JTH Crusades 2024 | Thursday AM
Date: October 14, 2024
This episode features guest ministers Joel and Amy Siegel speaking at the JTH Crusades in Collinsville, Oklahoma, with a strong focus on God's desire to reveal future things to His people and the current movement of healing and revival. The teaching centers on the accessibility of healing, the importance of spiritual sensitivity, and the transformative power of prayer—especially praying in tongues. Listeners are encouraged to expect God to guide them and bring healing, while taking active roles in their spiritual lives.
“I'm on a healing rampage. A healing rampage.” (03:21, Joel)
“…He will show you things to come. …We need not be blindsided… expect to know what God needs you to know.” (15:55, Joel)
“...the end-time move that we are in... is going to be a combination of all these other waves or moves of God, increased in power... the manifestation and demonstration of God's Spirit will become as common... as natural things...” (35:12, Amy)
On God’s rampage of healing:
“He always has been, actually, and always will be on a healing rampage. As many as He can and whoever He can. Indiscriminate.” (04:17–04:40, Joel)
On expecting revelation:
“We need not be blindsided. …It should be expected because of the relationship you have with the one that lives in you. You should expect to know.” (16:10–16:25, Joel)
On practical obedience:
“It’s not just because we’re good-looking. ...It's because we spend time in the information loop that we've been talking about.” (18:54–19:10, Joel)
On prayer’s power:
“Not only are you receiving from God His transmissions… but you in turn, by your prayers, are generating power for the situations you’re praying about.” (34:15–34:27, Joel)
The realm of the Spirit as home:
“The realm of the Spirit is actually the natural realm for us who are born of the Spirit... On the other hand, we can let our spirits have the continual privilege of communicating with the Father of Spirits.” (36:41–37:16, Amy reading Brother Hagin)
On church atmosphere:
“We ought to want God, so His presence and His Spirit [are] just so tangible and palpable… that when people walk in the room, we sense, oh my gosh, my goodness.” (47:05–47:28, Joel)
On ease in the Spirit:
“The plan of God is easy. Say it with me: Easy, easy, easy. Oh, oh. The plan of God is easy.” (63:06–63:24, Joel)
Advice on being led:
“Don’t wait for an audible voice. Don’t discount that... When you get in His presence and it seems like you should do this, that’s the Spirit showing you what you need to know.” (55:58–56:20, Joel)
The episode is conversational, faith-filled, and practical, weaving personal stories with biblical teaching. The speakers use humor, direct language, and simple illustrations to connect with listeners, with a focus on stirring faith and participation.
Joel and Amy Siegel passionately urge believers to recognize God’s ongoing move—especially in healing and revealing future guidance. Through scriptural teaching, testimony, and practical instruction, listeners are invited to engage purposefully in prayer (particularly in tongues), cultivate spiritual sensitivity, and position themselves for both personal transformation and impact within their communities and churches. The path to living in God’s fullness is “easy” when believers stay connected to the Spirit’s information loop and respond in faith.