Podcast Summary: Revival Carries God’s Message Further

Host: Dufresne Ministries
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Event: Georgetown, TX | Tuesday PM | Miracle Crusade 2022
Date: September 12, 2022

Episode Overview

Pastor Nancy Dufresne explores what it means to prepare for and participate in God’s ongoing work. Using examples from scripture, church history, and her own life, she emphasizes the importance of spiritual preparation, honoring those who have gone before us, and carrying God’s message faithfully into the future. Her core message: Revival is not about chasing something new, but about honoring and building on what God has already said and done, going further with the message for our generation.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Urgency of Preparation and the Role of the Holy Spirit

• Time is Short: Pastor Nancy opens with the urgency of the hour—Jesus is coming soon, as spoken in visitations to spiritual fathers like Dad Hagin (Kenneth E. Hagin). There is no time for trial and error; we must depend on the Holy Spirit for precise guidance.
  "[Jesus would speak to Dad Hagin and He said, 'I'm coming soon. Time is short.'] ...We don’t have time for things that waste that time." (03:30)

• Preparedness vs. Rut: She contrasts the meticulous planning for a wedding with the even greater need for spiritual preparedness. “Unpreparedness aborts plans.” (09:18)

• Spiritual Flexibility: The importance of living in the “ready position,” like a tennis player—not rutted in routine but ready to move quickly with the Spirit.

  "Not a rutted position, a ready position. So in that, I want you to see that the Holy Spirit is always going to help us be ready if we’ll follow Him..." (08:50)

2. Preparation in Biblical and Historical Context

• John the Baptist’s Example: Pastor Nancy explains John’s message—“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand”—signaled a time to be ready, to change, to prepare hearts to receive Jesus.

  "Being prepared is everything. Try to take vacation unprepared… Unpreparedness aborts plans." (12:32)

• Success Follows Preparation, Not Just Calling: She underscores that being called is not enough; preparation is what enables lasting success.

  "Many are called, few are chosen. Why? Because few will prepare adequately for the call. Few will consecrate themselves to the preparation." (20:15)

• Historical Ministry Lessons: The story of TL & Daisy Osborn, who initially failed as missionaries until they came home to learn from seasoned ministers during the Healing Revival; then went out and changed the world through greater preparation.

3. Spiritual Authority, Correction, and Honor

• Receiving Correction: Nancy shares candid personal stories—how her husband, Ed Dufresne, and spiritual mentors would correct her for the sake of preparation, and why being teachable is essential.

  “Do you take your marbles and go play somewhere else? ...I don’t have to be appreciated. ...He hired you so you could fulfill a task.” (18:52)

• Against Offense Culture: She calls out the “offended generation” and stresses that strong correction is for acceleration, not harm.

  "Someone, when they deal with you strongly and boldly, they’re accelerating you..." (19:40)

4. The Process and Power of Change (Repentance)

• Repentance as Progress: Change (repentance) is the door into what God is doing next. Settled people miss new moves; openness keeps us in God's flow.

  "Repent. Repent means change the way you’re doing it. Change...If you don’t repent, you miss this. Repentance gets us into the next thing God is doing." (34:45)

• Navigating Crisis with Right Thinking: She addresses enduring hardship with faith by holding the right mindset; never blaming God, but walking forward in His plan.

  "Anytime something goes wrong, it’s never on God’s side...It’s always on man’s side." (39:15)

5. The Message Carries the Flow—Building on What Was Given

• Continuity in God’s Work: Using Matthew 3 & 4, she shows how Jesus honored and carried forward John’s message—He did not look for an original or trendy message.

  "Revival is not God doing something different. Revival is God doing what He’s always done and just going further with it...” (50:00)

• Revival Defined: True revival is continuity: going beyond what was previously done, not seeking something different for the sake of difference.

• Association Transfers Anointing: Spiritual flows often come through association and learning from those who carry it. She recounts the transmission of the word of knowledge from Kathryn Kuhlman’s brother-in-law to her.

6. The Importance of the Pastor and Local Church

• You Can't Prepare Alone: Pastor Nancy insists believers need to be in a “system”—under a pastor—to be truly prepared and avoid missing God’s flow.

  "If you’re not in part of a local church, you’re going to have a hard time being prepared..." (46:10)

7. Honoring Spiritual Fathers and Previous Generations

• Personal Testimony of Favor: She attributes God’s favor in her life—such as being given Amy Simple McPherson’s vacation home—not to connections or money, but to her honor for “faith generals” of previous generations.

  "What you honor, you get to participate in. If we don’t honor previous flows, we can’t participate in them." (53:10)

• Carrying Forward, Not Restarting: She tells of receiving a revelation on worship from God—a privilege tied directly to her visiting and caring for Norvel Hayes in his later years.

  "If they don’t have enough honor to honor the man at the end, they don’t have enough honor to carry on the revelation the man brought." (65:35)

• Revival is Ongoing: She credits her church’s “continuous revival” to simply staying with the message God assigned, not chasing trends.

8. Concluding Charges

• Pay Attention to What God Is Saying: The episode ends with an exhortation to stay attuned to the Spirit, prepared not just for today but for what’s coming.

  "Every new level and move of God calls for further preparation. We’re never done." (58:12)

• Honor Multiplies the Supernatural: Quoting Dad Hagin, she stresses honor and reverence as the key to multiplication of miracles and the supernatural.

  "When honor and reverence is restored back in the church, there will be a multiplication of the miraculous, the supernatural." (60:55)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Preparation:

  “Preparation time is never lost time.” (20:02)

• On Calling and Success:

  “You don’t succeed because you’re called. You succeed because you’re prepared to occupy that place.” (14:32)

• On Correction:

  “If you fail, that points back to me. And no one fails on my watch because of me.” (22:30)

• On Repentance/Change:

  “Change—the way you’re doing it... Repentance gets us into the next thing that God is doing.” (34:45)

• On Revival:

  “Revival is not God doing something different. Revival is God doing what He’s always done and just going further with it…” (50:00)

• On Honor:

  “What you honor, you get to participate in. If we don’t honor previous flows, we can’t participate in them.” (53:10)
  “When honor and reverence is restored back in the church, there will be a multiplication of the miraculous, the supernatural.” – Dad Hagin (60:55)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening thoughts on preparation, urgency: 00:00 – 07:20
• Wedding analogy, “ready position” with the Spirit: 07:21 – 10:32
• John the Baptist, Matthew 3: Preparation and occupying your place: 10:33 – 17:50
• Lessons from TL & Daisy Osborn, preparation vs. zeal, correction: 17:51 – 25:00
• Personal stories of correction, adapting to where God has placed you: 25:01 – 32:00
• Repentance, openness to change, crisis faith: 32:01 – 41:00
• Local church and necessity of a pastor for preparation: 46:10 – 48:55
• Carrying forward God’s message, honoring spiritual fathers: 50:00 – 53:10
• Continuous revival, dangers of seeking what’s popular: 54:00 – 57:00
• Concluding prayers and charge to honor, revelation is given not earned: 58:12 – 60:55
• Closing stories about Norvel Hayes and practical implications of honor: 61:00 – 66:45

Summary Takeaways

• Spiritual preparation is essential—honor what God has done and who He has used.
• Don’t seek novelty for its own sake: build on the message God is already promoting.
• Learn through association; local church and pastoral leadership are key.
• True revival is not newness, but ongoing faithfulness and readiness to go further.
• Honor unlocks participation in God’s power and revelation; dishonor forfeits progress.
• “Pay attention to what the Spirit is saying this hour so we can be prepared for where we’re headed.” (58:12)

This episode is a stirring call to spiritual readiness, personal humility, and honoring the legacy of faith—so the message and movement of God continue, stronger, in each generation.