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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. You believe God with me for utterance tonight? Because I've got like 22 pages here. I don't. No, I won't do it to you. I won't. But I'm just saying that just. You get in a stream and it just keeps flowing. And so you've got to pick out of that stream and draw out of that stream what it is. That's to feed the people tonight. So you believe God with me for utterance. Amen. It started, yes. Well, it started actually a couple weeks ago. God began giving me some snippets and glimpses of things to bring during this week. And then more came yesterday, then more came today, and you just kind of throw it all and just see where it lands. But he started dealing with me about the time that we're in because dad Hagin and different ones who had experiences, either visions, visitations of some kind. And Jesus would speak to dad Hagin and he said, I'm coming soon. Time is short. Because time is short. We don't have time to waste. Meaning we don't have time to do it wrong. Back up, try to go and just live by trial and error. Because time is too short. You know, when a bride is planning a wedding, they start now, from what I understand, two years in advance because they can become very extensive, elaborate affairs. I don't know about that Eyelope. And I got married to my husband five weeks from the day we met. And we. He started calling me two weeks after we met. So really we were only in communication for three of the five weeks. And then he was in Europe for nine days of the three weeks. And so we. I only saw him five or six times from the time I met him to the time I married him. That's not the rule. That's the exception. Don't try to go out and have a spectacular thing like that that may. That probably won't work for you. That's very unusual. So we just eloped and it's like Monday, 4 o'. Clock, see you there. That was our preparation time. But I hear tell, and I've seen different planners that they produce that will start two years in advance. You look for a venue, you look for a wedding planner, and you start planning things well in advance based on where you're at. You know, if you're from olustee, where I originally started, probably two years is highly unnecessary. Like 20 minutes would work. But the bigger and grander the event, the more the planning, the more the preparation for the event. And if you didn't get your venue at two years, hey, you've got time. You know, maybe a year, maybe nine months, even, maybe six months, depending on where you're at, you've still got time. But if you haven't got, if you're having a big event and you haven't gotten your venue about a month before, well, call your parents and say, how's the backyard look? Because your options have now been shortened because of time. You may even have a lot of money, but without time, money can't purchase. Well, time calls for. And if you didn't do it six months ahead, that you needed to do a certain task with that wedding six months ahead, maybe you can get it done in three months. But the day of the wedding, it's over, baby. It's like the dress you got is what you're wearing or the dress you don't got. So time matters. And when Jesus said to dad, hagin, time is short. We don't have time for things that waste that time. So God has given us the Holy Spirit to help us arrive at a time we haven't visited yet and know how to conduct the events of that time. It calls for the Spirit's help. People. I've pastored for 25 years now. My children help me with the pastoring. But I stopped pastoring in 2016. I preached there occasionally and people asked me about pastoring. I loved pastoring. Pastoring didn't wear me out, tear me up or tear me down because I learned to do it by the Spirit. The Spirit will keep you in front of things and you'll be refreshed in the flow of the Spirit. I pastored by the Spirit. I endeavored to minister by the Spirit. The sermons, I didn't just dig and dig and dig and try to find sermons. I listened to hear what the Spirit would say because he knew what the people needed to hear. And so listening to the Spirit and following the way he's leading each and every one of us in our place in the body is imperative because time is short. It's so imperative that we become skillful, recognizing how the Spirit is leading us, and then we move in absolute obedience to that. Amen. So the Spirit of God has always led the church on what to emphasize for the time of that, of that point in time so that we would be ready to receive what God has for us so we can go further. See What God has for us is always to lead us into more, always to lead us into more. And I just. If you will. If you will suffer with me tonight, and I mean that in the right way, that means. I don't mean it in a painful way. I mean it. Just go with me through this. I want you to see something in Matthew chapter three, because I appreciate. It's interesting that Brother Joel and Pastor Amy have been talking about Ready, ready, amen. We're not talking about what God's going to do. We're talking about what he is doing because we have to tweak the mindset so that we aren't rutted in what we've always done. This is where a lot of people miss it. They are rutted in what they have always done. And so when God speaks to them, they miss it because they've already decided. That's the one thing I so loved about my husband. When he heard something from God, it was, we're doing it today. Good or bad, we're doing that today. He was always. He was never rutted. The mental arena will rut you. How do you know if you're in the mental arena? If you're rutted, you're in the mental arena. Because following your spirit will never put you in a rut. It will always keep you sensitive. And I loved what Pastor Amy said this morning. I don't know. Well, I liked what you said, too, but in relation to what I'm saying, she was talking about the tennis player that has what? Ready position. Ready position. And she said that when they're in a match, they're in ready position. Why? So they can go any direction at a moment's notice. That's walking in the spirit for the believer. We're in a ready position. Not a rutted position, a ready position. So in that, I want you to see that the Holy Spirit is always going to help us be ready if we'll follow him for what God is doing. So we do our part in that and so that we can go to the next thing that's further beyond that. So Matthew 3:1. In those days came John the Baptist, who, preaching in the wilderness of Judea and saying, repent ye, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. What's that mean? It's time. It's time. No more talking, no more. The prophets from centuries before that talked about it. He said, we've arrived. It's time. It's at hand. Verse 3. For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying, the voice of one crying in the now look what he's saying. Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. So when it's time, people better be prepared. Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his path straight. And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair and a leathern girdle about his loins and his mercy, locusts and wild honey. They went out to him, Jerusalem and all Judea and all the region round about Jordan, and were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. His message is, be prepared, prepare. Be prepared. Being prepared is everything. Try to take vacation unprepared. Try to make a trip when you haven't prepared your travel arrangements, you haven't prepared a hotel, you haven't prepared with the necessary resources, finances for the trip. It's going to affect the outcome of what you planned. Unpreparedness aborts plans. We don't succeed. Now listen. Every single one of us are called to something in the body. Not every one of us are called to the five fold offices, but every one of us are called to occupy a place in the body of Christ. You're called. God has assigned us. He set us in the body as it pleased him. He knows where we fit, and he intends that we be in the place that we fit. And where do we fit? Where he sets us, not where we set ourselves. Where he sets us, that's where we fit. And so we don't succeed because we're called to a place fivefold offices. You don't succeed because you're called. You don't succeed because you're called, Body of Christ. You don't succeed in your place because you're called to that place. You succeed because you're prepared to occupy that place. You're prepared. John the Baptist was living. Now, see, we read here what a unique character. Verse 4. I mean, he's wearing camel's hair. He's living in the wilderness. He has to have something that's suited for where he lives. They wouldn't maybe find that common in the city because it singles it out and lists it. So evidently it's not a common thing, but it suits where he's at. He's eating out there. Critters. What's he doing? Preparing himself. Why? Because he's got to bring others into their preparation. Unprepared people cannot prepare others. He was in that wilderness being prepared himself so that when it came time to prepare others, he was prepared for that. Amen, dad. Hagin used to say to us, and I remember One of our. The last time we were with him, we sat at a dinner table and he patted my husband's hand next to him. And he said, every generation must be evangelized and taught. It's not just about evangelizing. It's about teaching also. Both moving together. Amen. And what's he talking about? Preparing them. Because those that are evangelized and brought into the family, they had to be prepared for their place in the family. What's their place? How to occupy that place. Now, verse three again says, prepare ye the way of the Lord. He was preparing the way. How does he prepare the way of the Lord? By preparing the people. Preparing the people. He's not talking about preparing a road. He's talking about preparing the hearts of the people. So that when Jesus message, the heart will grab it instead of kick against it, instead of repel it. Prepared people receive. They receive what God says in a service. They receive what the Spirit is, what he's doing. And working in a service unprepared. People argue with it mentally. They reason against it. That's a sign. If you find yourself entrenched in the mental arena, you're not prepared fully. We're all at different stages of preparation. I think of Dr. Teal and Daisy Osborne, Brother Terry Mize and Renee Mizer here. I'm so glad they're here. They are precious. They were close, close friends with TL Osborne. He was like a mentor. Was he a mentor to you? Because this man's gone all over the world as a missionary. And T.L. osborne, I don't know, you could probably tell it better. But him and Sister Daisy took off as young missionaries around the world. And I don't know how long they were out there. Maybe a year or two, a short time. And they realized, we're failing. We're failing. He told you that? Many times. And I've read it before in his writings. And they came back home and they got under somebody. And I believe William Branham was a real leading voice. Cause he was part of that healing. It was during the time of the Healing Revival, 1947-1958. And they came and they sat as students under these leading ministers. And after they sat and received more preparation, then they went out and changed the world, they were called. The first time they went, but failed. Why? Preparation. Preparation. Preparation. Zeal is no substitute for preparation. Being thrilled about your call is no substitute for preparation. Being anointed is no substitute for being prepared. Dad Hagin used to teach us preparation time is never lost time. When Somebody will shorten their preparation time. They have just shortened how far they can reach. When you extend your preparation time as much as you can, you are extending the life and the power and the flow of what you're born for. Amen. Many are called, few are chosen. Why? Because few will prepare adequately for the call. Few will consecrate themselves to the preparation. See, many times people want the ministry, but do you want the preparation for the ministry? Well, you sit under a man and let a man say, don't do that again, and you say, yes, sir. Thank you for helping me. Or do you take your marbles and go play somewhere else? Because you gotta be coddled and appreciated. I don't have to be appreciated. No man hired you for a job so he could appreciate you. He hired you so you could fulfill a task. And whether he acknowledges you, pets you, rewards you, appreciates you, strokes you, has nothing to do with it. And we are in a generation that is offended. It's an offended generation. And someone, when they deal with you strongly and boldly, they're accelerating you. They're trying to. They're trying to. People have no idea how my husband dealt with me. Listen, he was always kind. He was generous with me. He was never threatened, he never felt. I never asked him to preach. Not one time did I ever ask him to preach. Well, I take that back. There was one time you want to hear was in my younger years of ministry, probably less sanct. Years ago, in our church in Tulsa, Ed was preaching one Sunday morning, and this woman, single, with imaginations, was winking at my. I don't know how I got off. This is a miracle crusade. I saw her winking at my husband. While I'm preaching, I'm going to. I said, after the service. I got the message tonight. I got the message tonight.
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Got the message tonight. He said, oh, you do? I go, yeah, I got the message tonight. So I preached that night. My opening scripture was, if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out. I said, some woman in here. You know who you are, because I'll go on and you'll be able to identify yourself. You were winking at my married husband. Yeah, come on. And I said, you, eyes offended me, and I'm fixing to pluck it out. Not physically, just in rebuke. That was not an issue. See, that's called being the head, not the tail. I'm not cleaning up a mess you made in my life. Yes, my congregation sat under me for 25 years. They could take it. I talk plain I talk Frank. Why? Because we're not playing games. We're dealing with demons. We're dealing with death. Hate you. And I'm not gonna pet you because demons won't pet. Amen. I'm preparing you. And if you get out and fail, that points back to me. And no one fails on my watch because of me. If you fail, that's going to be on you, but not on me. I want to be able to know I did everything I could to hand you preparation. Now you have to take the preparation handed you. Praise the Lord. That was just a rabbit trail. Zeal is not enough. You can't just get thrilled and say and get a desire for a big ministry. As long as your ambition is to build your ministry, you're not prepared. My desire is this. Get out the message. What is God emphasizing? Promote the message and the message will promote you. But if you. Ambition should not be a word found in the mouth of the believer. I have no ambition. I just have desire for God to be pleased. The plan of God to be fulfilled and him to get his way. Amen. Praise the Lord. My people do not know. There were times that my husband was very frank with me. Why? Preparation. And I took it. And I didn't bring that correction into our marriage and then start copying that attitude that affected our marriage. People had no idea when he was preaching sermons he was correcting me. And he preached it just for me. Cause we had the conversation before the service. What if I'm going to take my marbles and go home because I don't like the way you talk to me? This is about preparing. And when you want your way, you're not prepared yet. You're not prepared. You're not prepared yet. So anyway, when my husband and I first got married, of course I'd only been saved and filled with the Holy Ghost. Maybe two, two and a half years. Saved about two and a half years. Not filled that with the Holy Ghost that long. When I married my husband, I had never heard of the five fold offices in the denomination we were raised in. We had a pastor and that was the only office I ever heard of. I knew nothing about any of the other offices. So I'm just showing you how deficient I was in knowledge. And Ed would say to me, why? Because we lived in Tulsa at the time. Why don't you go to Rhema? We have always. Dad Hagin was our spiritual father. We always appreciate the ministry value because we recognize dad Hagin's was. Dad Hagin was not just a leading voice in our circle, he was a leading voice, the body of Christ. And it wasn't just we love him, and so we loved what God was using him to bring the body into. And so Ed would say to me, why don't you go to Rhema? And I checked here. And seriously, I said to him, I said, I don't have a leaving to go to Rhema. I'm not against Rhema. I just don't have that in my spirit. And he kept after me and kept after me and kept after me. And finally I said to him, I said, God wants you to train me for you. He doesn't want someone else to train me for you. He wants you to train me for you. And because of that, we could flow in unity, because the one who prepared me is the one that I got to flow with. When God puts you somewhere, he intends for you to flow with them, and he intends for them to be the one to prepare you. That pastor prepare you. That's why you don't bring preparation from another man and try to get your pastor compared to that preparation. That's unspiritual. That's unspiritual. A prepared man adapts themselves to wherever God puts them. They're not rutted. Rutted people can't go very far. They'll only go as far as their rut will let them go. One of the most impressive men to me in the Old Testament is Daniel because he was carried as a prisoner into an enemy country and forced out of his homeland, separated from all that he knew, all that was dear to him. And he was trained and prepared to serve the king, to learn their ways, have their way of education. And he became a loyal, faithful servant to that administration. And in the passing of time, there were three kings that came into administration. Three kings during Daniel's lifetime. You know, here in our country, when a new president comes into office, they bring their own administration. The former administration is completely removed, and they bring their own. But when these kings would come in, they didn't seem to get rid of Daniel from the former administration. Evidently, they felt safe with him. Why? Because a prepared man adapts themselves. Ready to go. Ready to go, ready to move, ready to think different, ready to move differently, ready to take whatever directive they're given without complaint. This is what we see of Daniel. And the Bible said he had an excellent spirit. An excellent spirit is a prepared one. Without argument. Without argument. We have to make sure we don't bring our American rights into our Christian walk. Bless God. I have a right. Well, not according to the law of law, you don't. You're welcome. Praise the Lord. I got to live with my Bible school. I said I got to live with my Bible school. And there were times my husband would preach and I know that he's rebuking me publicly, but he was so gracious. He never told anybody. But I knew it. I could have taken offense. I could have gotten turned that personal and then brought it into our marriage and divide a home. But I was more hungry to be right with God than to be right in my own thinking. Believe me, I'm not trying to say I've done everything right, but I am saying this. I stayed hungry. When you stay hungry, God can work with you. God, there's more God can take you into. And I want you to see this verse two, where we were at in Matthew. Matthew, chapter three, verse two. The message that John came out and gave was repent. Change. That's what repent it. Change. When people are settled, they're set. God can't take them further. Repent. Repent means change the way you're doing it. Change the way you're doing it. Change the way you're living your life. Change the way you're conducting your daily life. Repent. Then he said, look, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. If you don't repent, you miss this. Repentance gets us into the next thing that God is doing. In John the Baptist Day, the next thing that God was doing, the kingdom of heaven was coming into their midst. And he says, I got to get you in that. I got to get you receiving that flow. So quit doing what you've been doing. That's going to keep you out. Change. Don't stay the same. Be open. You know, this is what I so value about this precious couple. Tragedy, crisis, circumstances, difficulties will do one of two things. They will close you down like this or they'll open you up. The world teaches this posture manager, cope. I'm not called to cope. I don't cope with fear. I don't cope with worry. I don't cope with depression. I don't cope with it. I open up to the flow of God and I. I go God's direction in this thing. I turn God's direction. What is that? That's the direction of the word. And this is what I so value. We stood in their kitchen on the day that they had their funeral. And I said, the way you're so walking this out by faith is going to rescue so many people that would have gotten on the wrong path based on this event. And you're keeping them safe. What a joy to be an example, not a hardship. What a joy. I never let my kids be caught. The attitude that it's rough being a preacher's kid, that's a lie from the pit of hell. No ministry ever destroyed a family. I've heard people say the ministry destroyed my family. No, an unrenewed mind destroyed your family. You thought wrong. The work of the ministry, which is the plan of God for our family, has never done anything but bless my family. My husband traveled three weeks out of four weeks, every month, at least. And if people would say, oh, your daddy's never home, their daddy's blessing their life by being where God told him to be. Our family doesn't have to look like someone else's family. Our family has to look like the plan of God, the will of God for our life. And don't look at yours and look at mine and say, one is right and one is wrong. This is part of being prepared for where God is trying to take us, that we don't get rutted, that it's got to be a certain way. The look at look. If Noah would have taken that stance, how many families were building boats in his day. He was doing what no one else in the earth was doing. And it was going to be his rescue. Yeah, doing what God says is your rescue. Not just for you, but for your whole family. It's your rescue. My children were blessed. They weren't deprived. And since my husband has gone home to be with the Lord, things that he would have brought into their life, you know what God has done? Because I didn't cop a wrong way of thinking and a wrong attitude and a bitterness and an offense at God for not doing something different. Listen, anytime something goes wrong, it's never on God's side. It's always on man's side. It's always on man's side. It's always on man's side. It's always on man's side. And it shows lack of spiritual preparation to blame God for what man failed at. It's an unrenewed mind to ever accuse the goodness of God of not being good. And God has been so good since my husband left that he has brought leading men in the body of Christ to speak into the lives of my family that have made themselves available to my family, to our ministry. If I were to list that the leading men of God in the body of Christ have walked into our green room at our church and said, Anything you want, you call me. Anything you need, you call me. I will be here to help you do this project. I will be here to help you do this project. Why? Because what the devil meant to steal from God multiplied help back in. Why? Because we were prepared with right thinking when we were faced with tragedy. Amen. And this is what John the Baptist, he's recognizing to get these people in the next thing God is doing, which is the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is going to be manifest right in the midst of this generation. I don't want you to miss it. Repent. Repent. Change the way you think things ought to be done. Do it God's way, not your way anymore. That was the message. One word was the message. That was the message God gave for that generation to get them in the next thing that heaven was doing. Praise the lord. Now, verse 11. Go down with me, if you would. Verse 11. He was telling them, as evidence and an inward and an outward sign of an inward choice, come and be baptized. That's to show I choose to repent. I choose to make the change so that I don't miss the next thing God is offering me. So he said, come, be baptized, because that is an outward testimony of what you have chosen inwardly. So verse 11, he tells them this. I indeed baptize with water unto repentance. And in other words, you're going to be baptized as testimony that you've repented. But he that cometh after me, see, there's always something more coming. There's always something more coming. There's always something greater coming. I don't want to miss what's coming. I don't want to miss what's here, But I don't want to miss what what is here is leading us into. Because there's always more coming. Tomorrow, next week. There's always more coming. And it's our privilege to position ourselves. Be prepared. It's one thing to be prepared for today, but it's another thing to be prepared for what's coming. Because there's always more coming. So he says, verse 11. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. Can I say this? If you're not in part of a local church, you're going to have a hard time being prepared. Just like a child who is not in an education system of some kind, whether it's in their home, whether it's in a charter system, if they're not in some kind of education system, something is going to be lacking because they stepped outside of a system. And chose to be self taught. When we don't have a pastor, we have stepped out of the system of God. The system of God is that you have a shepherd, that you not be as sheep without a shepherd, that faint and are scattered. When we step out of the system of God and choose to be self taught, there's things that are going to come that we're going to miss because we can't prepare ourselves alone. Verse11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. He said, this is what I'm doing. But he that cometh after me is mightier than I, meaning he's going to do something far greater than dump you in water. Whose shoes I'm not worthy to bear. He shall baptize He. He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire. Power and fire. Power and fire. How do you get get into this flow of power and fire? Repent, change. Hallelujah. One flow leads to the next flow. If we neglect the one flow that's right in front of us, we will not be ready for for the flow that tomorrow shows. We can't skip flows that God offers and choose preferences. I don't know if you're getting anything out of that, but I mean. Same book, Matthew still writing this. We read that in Matthew 3. Look at Matthew 4. I want you to see the honor of the one who came after John the Baptist. Matthew 4:17. Jesus. From that time Jesus began to preach. Now look at his message. Look at his message. Remember what I said. It's not about your ministry, it's about the message. What is God's message at any given point of time? It's spiritual to be in tune with what God is saying and not adopt another message. Not look for another message. Not be enticed, not drift. What is God saying? The leading voice that God was using at the time was John the Baptist. But then Jesus comes on the scene and now Jesus voice takes the look what the honor that Jesus carried for what God had already done through a previous man of God. Look what he did. Matthew chapter 4, verse 17. From that time Jesus began to preach and this was his sermon. Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Same message. He did not have to go out and find something more thrilling that that the public and the Pharisees liked better. Pharisees did not like this repent word because they thought and portrayed themselves as right before God regardless of scripture. Look at the honor of Jesus. He doesn't look for a different message. He hears what God was Saying. And he picks it up and he carries it further. Can I tell you, revival is not God doing something different. God revival is God doing what he's always done and just going further with it, further with the same thing he's always done. People who are unprepared and untaught are looking for something different, new. Why? Because they want their success independent from anybody else's. They don't want to ever think that somebody else helped them into this success. They want to take full credit for it. But the Word says, you've entered into the labor of another man. And what an honor, what an honor that God would entrust. Jesus carried it as an honor to be entrusted with the message that John the Baptist was the first one to announce to his generation. The prophets foretold it, but John the Baptist delivered it. And Jesus, so honorable, he didn't come in. I need my own special message so I can look more impressive than John the Baptist and outdo him. Picked up the exact same message. When dad Hagin left the earth, my husband and I did not flounder. What are we going to do now? He preached the message, we paid attention. What message was God promoting? And we carried that further. I had someone ask me in an interview recently, how did you keep from. How did your ministry keep from falling apart when your husband went home? Because we weren't following a man. We were fulfilling a message. And the message did not leave when my husband left. I just. My husband trained me, prepared. Dad Hagin trained us. My husband carried that further in my life so that when he wasn't here, we were good students, we paid attention. Now we know what to do. You as congregation members need to be good students. What's your pastor preaching now? You know what to do when you leave the building. You don't have to go out and find some fresh rock revelation, something fresh from God. Just hear what God said through the man of God and go out and live your life in line with it. Your success is connected to another man. And if you don't have another man, success is questionable. Now again, verse 17. From that time, Jesus began to preach and to say, repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. So he preached the same exact message. Now he's going to go further with it. Look at verse 23. Same chapter, verse 23. Now Jesus goes further with that message. And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and preaching the gospel of the kingdom. Look at this. And healing and healing. All manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the People, how do we know this is something more? Because John the Baptist did not fulfill this. There was no. There was no miracle of healing under his ministry. His was a message. But when Jesus picked up the message, now, he was positioned to go to the power. The power, healing power, anointing. This is why people don't get in the full flow of power, because they're off the message. Well, I preach the Bible. What is God saying in this hour? It's not just any rent. The Word is vast. We have to have the Holy Ghost to direct us on what we emphasize. What is God wanting to do in our hour? And we hear that and we say, that's what I do. And it's always what the previous one did, the previous generation did. But go further, but go further. Remember what Jesus said. The works that I do shall you do also, what are the works that Jesus did? Jesus went everywhere teaching, preaching and healing. That's the works of Jesus. Teaching, preaching, healing. And he said, and greater works, not greater in quality, greater in quantity. Because teaching, preaching and healing. He was one man. But now there's a body through the whole earth doing the teaching, preaching and healing. That's greater, a greater quantity. But notice, Jesus said, the works that I do, yes, to do the works that Jesus did, you're going to learn those from the previous generation that did them. If we dismiss and aren't good students of what God brought to the body of Christ through a previous man of God, we're going to miss out on the fullness of our flow. Anyway, praise the Lord. God gave me in 2014, God said to me, I'm going to give you Sister Amy Simple McPherson's vacation home. I had a home, a home that's lovely. And I was content to live in. But God had a plan. So in 2014, he said, I'm going to give you that home in 2014. 15. I bought it. When I bought it, it wasn't for sale. When God told me he was going to give it to me, it wasn't for sale. People had tried to buy it. Many people had tried to buy it. And the Foursquare organization that had it declined offers. Movie stars had come down and looked at it, interested in buying it, but they couldn't have it because God had a plan. I said to God, now what I'm fixing to tell you is not about a house. I'm going to use the house. But it's not about the house. It's about the truth. One day, I said, God, there are so many people who would have appreciated owning this home because of the history, the uniqueness of it. And I said, I just want you to know how I appreciate that you thought of me. You could have thought of all these other people who already had resources in place that could have bought it, but they didn't have the favor. Their money could not buy them, what favor didn't give them. And I. I said, God, you gave me the favor. And then the money came, and I was able for the first time to pay cash for a home. And I said, God, I just appreciate you being thoughtful of me, that you thought of me when you see the house. And this is what he said to me. He said, because of your honor for faith generals of the past, he said, what you honor, you get to participate in. Now, did you get that? What you honor, you get to participate in. If we don't honor previous flows, we can't participate in them. If we don't honor what God worked through a man before us, we don't get to participate in that flow. Because it's not about a flow. It's about an honor prepared. People know what to honor. Praise the Lord, never belittle or treat lightly or speak lightly of someone else. Previous to you thinking that you got where you got alone. If they hadn't have done what they did, if Brother Hagin and Mom Hagin had not slept in chicken coops while they were learning the message of God's blessing and prosperity, we wouldn't be driving cars. And I'm talking about in the body of Christ. There wouldn't be the revelation of people knowing even how to have a house payment. Yet their house payment, these men of God of past generations, not even just recent, but past generations, they got in the. In God's, if I could say this, God's scientific lab. And they learned. How does faith work? How does joy work? How does worship work? How does giving work? And they got in God's laboratory and they tried this and they tried that, and they mixed this, and they quit putting that in. And they learned. And then they came out and inoculated the rest of us so that we don't have to go through all the processes, the struggles, the difficulties they went through if we'll be good students. Now, don't misunderstand me. You're gonna have to show yourself skillful in the face of tests. But when they have inoculated you with the wisdom of God and they brought forth revelation by the spirit of God, for us to set that aside and call it unimportant and to Dismiss them shows an unrenewed mind and unprepared for. Yes, yes. Amen. Amen. Matthew, chapter 10. We're still in the same book of Matthew. Matthew is writing chapter three, chapter four. John started the message. Jesus picked up the message. Matthew, chapter 10 and verse 1, Matthew, chapter 10 and verse 1. And when Jesus had called unto him his 12 disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits to cast them out to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Where did this start happening? It started happening after Jesus picked up the message introduced by John. That's when this flow started happening. So Jesus brings them into the further flow that was initiated through him. But then he goes on and he lists the names of the 12 disciples. But go down to verse 5. These 12 Jesus sent forth and commanded them, saying, go not into the way of the Gentiles and into any city of the Samaritans. Enter ye not, but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, verse 7. And as you go preach, saying, the kingdom of God is at hand. What is this? It's the same message. John the Baptist declared it. Jesus was entrusted with it and Jesus passed it on. They stayed with, with the message, the message of faith, the message of divine healing. These are not being unemphasized. And people struggle when they leave the message. Their own life will show the difficulties and the struggles of leaving the message that God is promoting. Praise the Lord. The disciples were able to pick up not just the message that John the Baptist declared first, but they were able to pick up the flow. Miracles, healings, casting out demons. Why? Those things come by one thing, association. The anointing comes by association. That's one way it comes. You have to get around that flow to, to experience that flow. Kathryn Kuhlman, who, if you ever have seen any videos of her, her ministry was marked by the word of knowledge. She would operate with the word of knowledge. Gifts of healings would operate. The gifts of healings would operate. It didn't begin with her. People don't know that. There was her brother in law by the name of Everett Parrott, that when she was 16 years old, her mother sent her to go live and travel with her sister and her brother in law. And he was a preacher and he was the one who operated first by calling out words of knowledge and the gifts of healing and people falling out under the spirit. And she got in proximity and was in association and something was transformed, transferred to her. So she wasn't the beginner of this flow. It came through another What God has for your life, someone else has begun. And you better know ain't about all us. We're not the beginner. We should just be paying attention to what the spirit is leading us to do so that we can tag on what he's already started through someone else and be a student. And primarily that's to going happen through your pastor. Don't ever appreciate a traveling ministry more than you appreciate your pastor. Don't ever. Don't ever. Don't ever. No traveling minister lives with you. Your pastor lives with you. Praise the Lord. You have to be present to catch some things of these flows. You have to be present these disciples. Jesus didn't just call a monthly meeting with the 12. They lived with him, they served with him. They watched him as he ministered. They traveled. They got chewed out at times. It's part of the preparation. He corrected them, he dealt with them. He. He wasn't raising buddies. It's not our job to get to be around our pastor, get to be around ministers so we can be their buddies. I just want to get in proximity. I want to see how they do it. I want to hear how they do it. Dad Hagin, he would teach us in the mornings on prayer, and then he would take a few moments and pray in his morning services when he would do his Holy Ghost meetings. And he would always say this. I was completely disobedient to him in those services. Completely. Because he would say, everyone, close your eyes and let's pray. Don't look at me. I'm looking at him. I'm sorry. I'm looking. I want to see how you held your head. I want to see what you did with your hands. I wanted to watch how God moved through you. Not to imitate that, but to be a student of my teacher. Amen. Why? These are critical to get us to the next thing God has for us. They're critical to get us to the next thing. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. I said, praise the Lord. I guess I'm going to stop there because if I keep going, we're going to unravel a whole nother line of thread there. And I'm not sure we'll have time to pick up all the pieces before we get out of here tonight. What is God saying to us? Pay attention to what the spirit of God is saying this hour so we can be prepared for where we're headed. I said pay attention so we can be prepared for where we're headed. Hallelujah. You can be prepared for today, but there's More. There's more God has for us. And the Holy Ghost wants to keep, keep, keep training us, keep imparting to us, keep us prepared. Because every new level and move of God calls for further preparation. We're never done. Hallelujah. Stand with me to your feet. Father, we thank you tonight. We thank you tonight for the privilege to just say some things. And Father, thank you for the privilege of people who are hungry for them. We're so, so grateful. We are so, so grateful for what you have for us. We honor what you've done in the past. We don't dismiss it, we don't belittle it, but we learn from it. And we're faithful with past revelations so that we can be entrusted with further revelations because there's more for us. Years ago, God said to me, there are revelations that belong to this era. Now listen to that. He said, there are revelations that belong to this era. It wasn't time for them to come forth in previous eras, but he said, there are revelations that belong to this era. He said you will have to labor in prayer to receive them. Now look, he didn't say to earn them. Because revelations are not studied out. They're given. They're given. And as we pray, we position ourselves to hear the more we're in his presence, the more we recognize what he's saying to us. So we get to be a part of receiving more. Amen. Hallelujah. Father. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. We glorify you. Just go ahead. Let's worship together.
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I worship you. There is none like you. I worship you, O Prince of Peace. That is what I want to do. I worship you, mighty God. There is none like you. Worship. That is what I long to give you. I praise for you are my righteousness. I give you praise. I give you praise for you are my righteousness. I worship you. There is none like you. No, there's no. There is none like you. There's nothing like you. There is none.
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Dad Hagin made the statement. He said, when honor and reverence is restored back in the church, there will be a multiplication of the miraculous, the supernatural. Really what I'm talking about tonight is honor. It's really what I'm talking about. Honoring the message. Honoring what God has done and the price that people that went before us paid and not set it aside because of the arrogance of a generation. Generation. You know, I'm just talking about in the world. If you look at what people may say, they'll belittle people of previous centuries oh, they didn't know this. They didn't know this. Well, I know this generation doesn't know how the pyramids were built.
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So.
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Technology loss because someone thought it not important. And every generation always I'm just talking naturally. I'm not talking about the body of Christ. I'm talking just the generation mindset is the previous generation were idiots because we have gone so much further. But no one could go further without what the previous generations did. There's no rockets until somebody built a wagon. We're building upon God's doing the same thing. But it's dishonor that starts measuring what you're doing into what somebody else did and says it's just not that important. But without what they did, we've got nothing to work with. Then I'll close with this. I think in 2012 God said to me, I want you to have brother Norville in your church. Now we've been friends with Brother Norville was one of the first ministers I got to meet after I married ed back in 1984. Precious man. We had many wonderful times with him. He was in our church on many occasions. And in 2013 after my husband died brother Norville called and he said Nancy, he said I'm going to be passing through your area. Would you like me to come? And I absolutely. Because God had already said so for the next four years he came every year and it was our privilege. And brother Tony got to spend days with brother Norval. Him and another four fellow would set up in there. They'd get two bedroom hotels. Brother Norville and his wife would be in one room and Tony and his another guy and another. Why? Because we put people in there to cook for them, help them get dressed, help take them places. They were around nine, brother, brother Norville was around 90 years old. And all that man has put in the body of Christ, are you kidding me?
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Yeah.
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I value, I value people who made it easier for us. And there were others that because brother Norville needed tending to. He was 90 years old old. But I tell you what, he would say some of the revelations that would come out he would say one statement that would open heaven to you with the weight and the revelation of having lived it. Precious, Precious. Precious. And after he went home to be with the Lord God impressed upon me to go back to onto YouTube and you can find if you push, if you type in Norval Hayes healing what comes up is around 30. Well it's over 30. It's around 40 different services that were held in a revival in Dallas, Texas, in the 80s or early 90s, somewhere in that time frame. And I just kept feeding and feeding and feeding. And I was getting ready to go. Go and preach at a camp meeting. And God told me, I want you to preach on the revelation. I gave brother Norval on the. On worship, not preaching his sermons, preaching what God said to him. So I had prepared to do that. I was getting ready that night to go to that camp meeting where I was preaching. And as I was getting ready, I could. I caught a glimpse out of something in the corner of my eye. And there was an angel standing in my hotel room. And I know this, that when an angel shows up, Jesus, when there's some kind of supernatural thing like that, you have to respond. So I went over and I stood in front of where that angel was, and I held out my hands and I said, you come for some purpose. I receive that purpose. And he said to me, I've come to impart the utterance for the revelation. See, you can't just. You can't. These revelations are divinely imparted, and they need divine help to utter them, to utter them correctly. You can't just study it out. And that angel said, I've come to impart the utterance for the revelation. Why? Because when it's uttered, right, it lands in the people. It lands in their hearts, not just their heads. When it comes from the spirit, it reaches the Spirit, because words can't go where they haven't come from. And so that angel left. And I sat down at the chair, I was finishing getting ready, and the word of the Lord then spoke to me. And he said, that angel has come. And you were entrusted with that revelation on worship because of your honor for the man of God at the end of his life. Now listen to that. At the end of his life, he said, because at the peak of someone's life and ministry, everyone clamors to have them. But when they reach the end, those who don't honor are not interested in it anymore. And he said, if they don't have enough honor to honor the man at the end, they don't have enough honor to carry on the revelation the man brought. I will not entrust a revelation to a man who will not honor someone at their end. What's that mean? God does not intend we start over. He intends we take what was given and go further. Take. What do you think if the medical industry said, you know something? It wasn't this generation that found the smallpox cure. Trash it. We Want to find it, they build upon it and they go further. Why do you think the devil wants to get the body of Christ to diminish and get rid of the ground that was taken? Revelation. Stepping back from the truth, setting aside what was, what was brought to us through previous revivals. Well, it's only honor that will move, that will take what has been given and go further with it. Not go off, go further. Hallelujah. Well, I believe he's found a body of believers. Amen. We honor what God has said. We're not setting aside the truths of faith, the truths of healing. And this is why our church has been able to. If I could say this, our church has been in continuous revival. Why? Because we've just stayed with what God was saying, stayed with what was emphasized. We knew what God wanted us to deliver, and we just stayed with it. We didn't go with what was popular. Now, listen to me. We didn't go with what was popular. We went with what we were called and assigned to. Amen. Don't get distracted. By what? By balloons and streamers. And what is God saying? What is he doing? Staying with it. There was one minister that was talking about events, vision he had. And he said. Pastor Nancy, he said it was revelation to me because he said, I saw a company of angels. They were going through the earth and they were carrying what looked to be like some large. A trunk or container or something. And he said they were going through the earth. And he said they were. He said this contained the oracles of God, the message that God was wanting declared. And he said those angels would go and they would stay with a certain minister, a certain ministry that was declaring it. And then that minister would go with something popular and get off the message, because now they grew in popularity and they left the message. And he said, and I watched those angels pick up those oracles and go somewhere else with them. It's about what is God's saying, what is God promoting. That's what I'm going with. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. This is part of being prepared, learning to recognize what God is promoting, not what man is promoted. People can just take a few really strategic steps and come to the forefront, but you can't stand, stay there. What a man can't receive, what heaven didn't give. Amen. So some. I just pay attention to what God's promoting, not what man is promoting what God is promoting. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you. We thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You got us. You've got more for us. We go, we go, we go, we go, we go. And we can only get there by honoring what you've already imparted, what you've already spoken, the revelation you've already given. We will not let the light slip. We will not let these things diminish. But we hold to them and we go further. There's not an old, outdated message. It's revelation in light of the Word of God. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner, or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Event: Georgetown, TX | Tuesday PM | Miracle Crusade 2022
Date: September 12, 2022
Pastor Nancy Dufresne explores what it means to prepare for and participate in God’s ongoing work. Using examples from scripture, church history, and her own life, she emphasizes the importance of spiritual preparation, honoring those who have gone before us, and carrying God’s message faithfully into the future. Her core message: Revival is not about chasing something new, but about honoring and building on what God has already said and done, going further with the message for our generation.
Time is Short: Pastor Nancy opens with the urgency of the hour—Jesus is coming soon, as spoken in visitations to spiritual fathers like Dad Hagin (Kenneth E. Hagin). There is no time for trial and error; we must depend on the Holy Spirit for precise guidance.
"[Jesus would speak to Dad Hagin and He said, 'I'm coming soon. Time is short.'] ...We don’t have time for things that waste that time." (03:30)
Preparedness vs. Rut: She contrasts the meticulous planning for a wedding with the even greater need for spiritual preparedness. “Unpreparedness aborts plans.” (09:18)
Spiritual Flexibility: The importance of living in the “ready position,” like a tennis player—not rutted in routine but ready to move quickly with the Spirit.
"Not a rutted position, a ready position. So in that, I want you to see that the Holy Spirit is always going to help us be ready if we’ll follow Him..." (08:50)
John the Baptist’s Example: Pastor Nancy explains John’s message—“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand”—signaled a time to be ready, to change, to prepare hearts to receive Jesus.
"Being prepared is everything. Try to take vacation unprepared… Unpreparedness aborts plans." (12:32)
Success Follows Preparation, Not Just Calling: She underscores that being called is not enough; preparation is what enables lasting success.
"Many are called, few are chosen. Why? Because few will prepare adequately for the call. Few will consecrate themselves to the preparation." (20:15)
Historical Ministry Lessons: The story of TL & Daisy Osborn, who initially failed as missionaries until they came home to learn from seasoned ministers during the Healing Revival; then went out and changed the world through greater preparation.
Receiving Correction: Nancy shares candid personal stories—how her husband, Ed Dufresne, and spiritual mentors would correct her for the sake of preparation, and why being teachable is essential.
“Do you take your marbles and go play somewhere else? ...I don’t have to be appreciated. ...He hired you so you could fulfill a task.” (18:52)
Against Offense Culture: She calls out the “offended generation” and stresses that strong correction is for acceleration, not harm.
"Someone, when they deal with you strongly and boldly, they’re accelerating you..." (19:40)
Repentance as Progress: Change (repentance) is the door into what God is doing next. Settled people miss new moves; openness keeps us in God's flow.
"Repent. Repent means change the way you’re doing it. Change...If you don’t repent, you miss this. Repentance gets us into the next thing God is doing." (34:45)
Navigating Crisis with Right Thinking: She addresses enduring hardship with faith by holding the right mindset; never blaming God, but walking forward in His plan.
"Anytime something goes wrong, it’s never on God’s side...It’s always on man’s side." (39:15)
Continuity in God’s Work: Using Matthew 3 & 4, she shows how Jesus honored and carried forward John’s message—He did not look for an original or trendy message.
"Revival is not God doing something different. Revival is God doing what He’s always done and just going further with it...” (50:00)
Revival Defined: True revival is continuity: going beyond what was previously done, not seeking something different for the sake of difference.
Association Transfers Anointing: Spiritual flows often come through association and learning from those who carry it. She recounts the transmission of the word of knowledge from Kathryn Kuhlman’s brother-in-law to her.
"If you’re not in part of a local church, you’re going to have a hard time being prepared..." (46:10)
Personal Testimony of Favor: She attributes God’s favor in her life—such as being given Amy Simple McPherson’s vacation home—not to connections or money, but to her honor for “faith generals” of previous generations.
"What you honor, you get to participate in. If we don’t honor previous flows, we can’t participate in them." (53:10)
Carrying Forward, Not Restarting: She tells of receiving a revelation on worship from God—a privilege tied directly to her visiting and caring for Norvel Hayes in his later years.
"If they don’t have enough honor to honor the man at the end, they don’t have enough honor to carry on the revelation the man brought." (65:35)
Revival is Ongoing: She credits her church’s “continuous revival” to simply staying with the message God assigned, not chasing trends.
Pay Attention to What God Is Saying: The episode ends with an exhortation to stay attuned to the Spirit, prepared not just for today but for what’s coming.
"Every new level and move of God calls for further preparation. We’re never done." (58:12)
Honor Multiplies the Supernatural: Quoting Dad Hagin, she stresses honor and reverence as the key to multiplication of miracles and the supernatural.
"When honor and reverence is restored back in the church, there will be a multiplication of the miraculous, the supernatural." (60:55)
On Preparation:
“Preparation time is never lost time.” (20:02)
On Calling and Success:
“You don’t succeed because you’re called. You succeed because you’re prepared to occupy that place.” (14:32)
On Correction:
“If you fail, that points back to me. And no one fails on my watch because of me.” (22:30)
On Repentance/Change:
“Change—the way you’re doing it... Repentance gets us into the next thing that God is doing.” (34:45)
On Revival:
“Revival is not God doing something different. Revival is God doing what He’s always done and just going further with it…” (50:00)
On Honor:
“What you honor, you get to participate in. If we don’t honor previous flows, we can’t participate in them.” (53:10)
“When honor and reverence is restored back in the church, there will be a multiplication of the miraculous, the supernatural.” – Dad Hagin (60:55)
This episode is a stirring call to spiritual readiness, personal humility, and honoring the legacy of faith—so the message and movement of God continue, stronger, in each generation.