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Episode Overview

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Seeking That Which Is Above | Noel Ramos | World Harvest Church | Murrieta, CA
Date: July 24, 2020
Guest Speaker: Noel Ramos

In this spiritually-charged message, guest minister Noel Ramos delves into the biblical concept of “seeking that which is above.” Drawing from the letters of Paul and his own faith journey, Ramos unpacks the role of faith, divine hope, and the believer’s position "above" rather than "below" in Christ. The episode is a passionate exhortation to live anchored in what God says, not what we feel or see, and to hold fast to our confession—the “title deed” of our faith.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The “Title Deed” of Faith

• Faith as Title Deed: Faith is described as the “assurance,” the “confirmation,” and the “title deed” of things hoped for—especially those things not visible in the natural realm.
  Quote: “Faith is your proof. When you speak the word of God, watch what you say. Because that's the only fruit you can ever have in life.” (08:40)

• Divine vs. Human Hope:

  • Human hope is uncertain and unreliable. Divine hope, in contrast, rests on what God has already finished.
    • “Human hope is always empty...But when God promises us his word, it’s already done.” (02:00)
  • You cannot use biblical faith for something not yet finished by God; divine hope is anchored in the completed work.

• Confession as the Primary Action: Speaking God’s word and holding fast to what comes from the heart is foundational.

  • “The primary action of faith is your confession…when it escapes your mouth from your heart, that’s your title deed.” (11:40)

Living “From Above”

• Our Position in Christ: Believers are “from above,” seated with Christ, and should live and pray from this position rather than from earthly lack or worry.

  • “If you want the fruit in the natural, it’s no longer faith...Anything that we put our faith...in the natural is not faith. It’s unbelief.” (13:20)
  • “We are from above. The only proof that we have that we are from above—you cannot even see it...the only way you know you’re from above is because you said so.” (15:25)

• Never Compare or Feel Less:

  • Worldly comparison is discouraged; true richness is in spiritual standing, not material success.
    • “God never look at how much natural things were in life. Don’t see yourself as unsuccessful because you barely can pay your bills.” (25:45)

• The Proof is in Your Faith:

  • Example: You don’t see being ‘born again,’ but you know by faith and confession.
    • “How do you know you’re born again?...What is your proof? Your faith. That’s the only title deed.” (19:00)

Anchoring The Mind: Divine Hope

• Hope as Anchor: Divine hope—anchored in God’s word—stabilizes the soul.

  • Like an anchor stabilizes a ship:
    • “You know what anchor means. As a ship, when you anchor, that doesn’t matter how the wave flows. It’s anchored. Can’t move it. That’s how the word in our mind, the divine hope.” (38:45)

• Resisting the Devil’s Attacks: The mind must remain anchored to God’s promises, resisting fear, anxiety, and wavering.

  • “When you receive revelation from God...anchor your mind to it. Do not worry. Because you already have your soul anchored in the word.” (43:30)

Releasing Faith in Practice

• Faith Over Pain and Need:

  • Healing and provision are claimed by faith confession, not by waiting for natural evidence.
  • Example: Physical healing occurs as Noel Ramos leads listeners to confess healing, with testimonies given in real time.
    • “Faith. Your faith works. It’s from above. Your faith is from above.” (01:04:10)

• All Provision is Spiritual First: Believers should first see themselves supplied and favored by God, which produces natural provision in time.

  • “Don’t start in the middle. How many will pray in the name of Jesus?...Because their mind is so much on worrying about the things...that’s how you pray. You go up there first.” (50:00)

Practicing Spiritual Mindset and Worship

• Starting and Ending “Above”: Worship and daily fellowship are practices that keep the believer living “from above.”

  • “When you worship God, you go from above. You identify yourself that your Father in heaven is your father. The same Father that Jesus Christ.” (35:05)

• Joy as a Fruit of “Above”:

  • “Joy is from above. It doesn’t come from below. All good things come from above, right?” (53:50)
  • “Count it all joy when you fall into divers tests and trials. Where is that from? Below. But if you put your joy in those tests and trials, those tests and trials cannot stand.” (01:08:00)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "He [God] cannot promise us anything that is not done yet. It has to be finished for it to be a divine hope." – Noel Ramos (02:23)

• “The only word that matters—that’s why there’s a Holy Ghost, that if we're studying the Word, he will highlight us a scripture. What is he doing? He's giving us a divine hope.” (05:50)

• “How do you know you’re born again? I can’t see it. I cannot see my spirit...” (19:06)
  “What is your proof? Your faith. That’s the only title deed that you know.”

• “Always start from above. Don’t start in the middle...You go up there first.” (50:00)

• “He takes it personally. If Jesus is blessed to say those things—to put himself equal to the church—how much more we do. We have the same life in nature as him.” (32:00)

• “You anchor your thought, your mind, your soul with that...the devil will try to take away that anchor.” (41:00)

• “Anybody else? Because pain is from below. It’s the flesh. But when you say in the name of Jesus, you put the authority of the word from above over the one that’s from below.” (01:06:30)

Important Timestamps

• Faith as Title Deed & Divine Hope Explained: 00:30 – 13:20
• Confession and “Proof” of Faith: 11:40 – 19:56
• Living “From Above” (Identity in Christ): 15:25 – 32:00
• Anchoring the Mind & Hope as Anchor: 38:45 – 45:00
• Overcoming Natural with Spiritual, Healing Demonstration: 01:01:00 – 01:07:40
• Practical Application – Living and Praying from Above: 50:00 – 01:08:30
• Closing Exhortation (Colossians 3 – Seek Things Above): 01:10:00 – 01:14:20

Episode Flow & Takeaways

• The episode is energetic, packed with scripture, practical exhortation, and real-time faith exercises.
• Listeners are repeatedly encouraged to align their mindset and confession with their position “in Christ”—above, not below.
• The spoken word (confession) combined with faith is emphasized as the only legitimate proof or “title deed” by which the believer accesses unseen, finished spiritual realities.
• Worship, joy, and anchoring the mind in God’s promises are vital spiritual disciplines for living victoriously.

Final Encouragement

Begin every day anchored in faith and “from above.” Don’t let the natural world or circumstances set your mindset or speak your reality. Let your words, rooted in the word of God, be your title deed—your unshakeable proof of who you are and what you possess in Christ.