Sensitivity To The Holy Spirit | Nancy Dufresne | Ladies Conference 2024 | Tuesday PM

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Podcast Summary: Sensitivity To The Holy Spirit

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Sensitivity To The Holy Spirit | Nancy Dufresne | Ladies Conference 2024 | Tuesday PM
Date: October 2, 2024
Host/Speaker: Nancy Dufresne, with contributions by Pat Harrison & Leanne
Theme: Becoming Sensitive to the Leading of the Holy Spirit

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Episode Overview

This episode, recorded at the 2024 Ladies Conference, features Pastor Nancy Dufresne ministering on the importance of sensitivity to the Holy Spirit. The gathering begins in a strong atmosphere of worship, spontaneous ministry, and healing, then moves into prophetic words from guests including Pat Harrison and Leanne, before Nancy delivers a practical, heartfelt teaching on developing spiritual sensitivity. The tone is warm, candid, expectant, and deeply reliant on the presence and leading of God in every moment, both in and beyond church services.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Yielding to the Holy Spirit in the Moment

(00:00–04:00)

• Nancy opens by highlighting the necessity of following "the anointing in the room," even if it means departing from prepared notes.
• Emphasis is placed on not ministering in “autopilot” but staying receptive:

  “Go with the anointing that's in the room... These services are his opportunity, and it's our opportunity to receive from Him.”

• She references Fred Price’s book, Faith, Foolishness and Presumption, warning against presuming you know God’s will without checking with Him.
• Calls for worship and invites Ms. Reba to minister songs with words of knowledge for healing, modeling sensitivity in action.

2. Spontaneous Healing Ministry

(04:03–16:00)

• Worship transitions into a powerful healing flow led by Ms. Reba.
• [04:24] Notable quote:

  “If you're in pain and you say, 'I need relief right now,' why don’t you raise your hands and wave at me?... There are angels ministering to you.” (Ms. Reba)

• Attendees are invited to receive immediate healing, with faith and prophetic declarations reinforced by communal prayer.

3. Honoring the Moment and Avoiding Familiarity

(16:56–19:54)

• Nancy cautions against treating God’s presence casually:

  “Faith is always thrilled. Faith never treats it as common... You're in a place tonight that many would long to be in.” (Nancy, 16:56)

• She emphasizes expectation and the refusal to “leave the same way we came in.”

4. Prophetic Activation & Words from Pat Harrison

(19:54–29:10)

• Pat Harrison comes up at Nancy’s invitation, acts in obedience to a prompting from God.
• Prophetic encouragements are given about strong anointing for the coming season and the necessity to be “ready” for changes and increased responsibilities:

  “The time is near. And you need that strong anointing because it’s near. And you will walk through and you will obey and you will do exactly as I have asked because I trust you...” (Pat, 21:23)

• Pat underscores the need for faithfulness and obedience:

  “One step, or one hesitation... is disobedience. Do you understand that? One hesitation is disobedience.” (Pat, 25:53)

• A practical, at times humorous, deliverance and encouragement session for “David” and others follows, illustrating prophetic ministry.

5. Corporate Worship & Prophetic Song

(29:14–37:10)

• Ms. Leanne ministers in song and prophecy, speaking of “doors of utterance,” new assignments, and visible demonstrations of God’s glory as listeners walk through these open doors.
• [33:18] Notable prophecy:

  “And those miracles that you’ve been waiting to behold, you’ll see. And they’ll come in manifestation as you step boldly out into me. For through these doors, my glory is there to help...” (Leanne)

6. Teaching: How to Become Spiritually Sensitive

(39:32–87:39)

• Nancy’s teaching shifts from spontaneous flow into a structured message, rooted in faith and personal anecdote:

A. Living from the Inside Out

• Quoting Brother Copeland, she teaches the centrality of the inner spiritual life:

  “We live from the inside out. God deals with us through our spirits... To recognize His dealings, we have to develop our spirits and be keen toward how He’s dealing with us.” (Nancy, 39:32)

• Explains the danger of mingling mental/emotional responses with spiritual direction.

B. Practical Steps for Growing in Sensitivity

• Feed on the Word:

  “The Holy Spirit is more interested in working with the Word than with anything else or anyone else. Feed on the Word. Meditate on it. Don’t just appreciate it—feed on it.” (Nancy, 42:57)

• Speak in Other Tongues:

  “You must practice quieting your mind. If you don’t, you will miss the full benefit that’s to be gained through speaking in other tongues.” (Nancy, 46:37)

• Quiet the Mind: Focus attention on the spirit, not the mind; when your mind is too busy, you’re less receptive to the Spirit.

C. Power of Hearing from the Spirit: Personal Testimony

• Nancy shares a practical story about needing $400,000 for building completion and relying on spiritual sensitivity (prayer in tongues and quieting the mind) to receive specific wisdom for a miracle financial solution.
• [60:37] “I laid in bed and I quieted my mind... After ten minutes, it literally seemed like a bubble... the wisdom of God just floated up, and I knew, and He told me what to do.” (Nancy)
• Walking through the specific steps of faithfulness, not accepting “no,” and holding to the God-given direction until breakthrough comes.

D. Metaphors for the Spirit-led Life

• The Pace Car Analogy:

  “The Holy Ghost is our pace car. If we will stick close and follow... my skill will become your skill... If He’s leading, your success is in how closely you follow.” (Nancy, 68:31)

• The Genius in the Kitchen:

  “Genius of the plan of God steps into our life. We will not stick with our recipe... The Holy Ghost will not force his genius upon us... If you stick with your own recipe, you miss out on genius.” (Nancy, 73:46)

E. Recognizing & Guarding the Mental Arena

• At times of transition, the enemy seeks to trouble our thoughts; sensitivity means turning toward the Spirit, and away from mental agitation:

  “Any time I sense troubling, I know I have just turned toward the wrong arena... There’s no troubling in my spirit arena.” (Nancy, 82:48)

F. Turning, Not Earning, God’s Presence

• [87:39] Notable quote:

  “Living in My presence does not come by earning, it comes by turning... Even if you missed it, you can at that moment acknowledge it, repent, and turn right back and be right in His presence.” (Nancy)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Go with the anointing that’s in the room... These services are, first and foremost, His opportunity.” (Nancy, 00:00)
• “If you’re in pain... God says, I want to heal you now so you can enjoy the rest of the services.” (Ms. Reba, 04:24)
• “Faith is always thrilled. Faith never treats it as common.” (Nancy, 16:56)
• “One hesitation is disobedience.” (Pat Harrison, 25:53)
• “There are doors open wide in glory... Will you boldly walk on through the doors I’ve made for you?” (Leanne, 33:03)
• “The Holy Spirit is more interested in working with the Word than with anything else... Feed on the Word.” (Nancy, 42:57)
• “If you will follow me closely, my skill will become your skill... The Holy Ghost is our pace car.” (Nancy, 68:31)
• “Genius came to the kitchen of my life, right? So I’m already screaming at the TV, you must lose... If you stick with your own recipe, you miss out on genius.” (Nancy, 73:46)
• “Living in My presence does not come by earning, it comes by turning.” (Nancy, 87:39)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Opening Exhortation and Healing Worship: 00:00–16:00
• Faith, Expectation, and Reverence: 16:56–19:54
• Prophetic Words by Pat Harrison: 19:54–29:10
• Prophetic Song & Activation by Leanne: 29:14–37:10
• Practical Teaching on Sensitivity to the Holy Spirit: 39:32–87:39
• Closing Prayer & Commission: 87:39–end

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Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s message masterfully weaves together the spontaneous and the practical—modeling and teaching believers how to walk each day in conscious fellowship with the Spirit, free of presumption, full of faith, and expectant for continual guidance and supernatural intervention. The episode is rich with prophetic encouragements, practical illustrations, and humor, consistently underscoring the episode’s central challenge:

Don’t rely on mental effort or routine; instead, honor, yield, and respond to the Holy Spirit—He is both the genius in the kitchen and the skillful driver who can bring you to places of victory you could never reach alone.

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Transcript

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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. My husband always taught us, go with the anointing that's in the room. Amen. Because you can come with one flow on your notes, but you go with the flow that's in the room when he's in the room in manifestation. Amen. We worship you tonight. Worship you tonight. We worship you tonight. We glorify you. We glorify you. Because while she was ministering those songs, not just singing them, ministering them, that tangible healing anointing came in. I don't know if you sensed it, but it did. So we want to acknowledge the way he's moving. We'll probably minister the Word tonight, but let's acknowledge what he's doing now. Amen. Also, Sister Pat Harrison is here. Give her a great big God bless you. And so I say to you, Sister Pat, if you get anything, you know this, I'll sit down, you come up, and everybody will be pleased. But let's acknowledge what he's doing right now. Amen. Jesus, we glorify you. We magnify you. We glorify you. Hallelujah. You know, I don't want ever to go on autopilot in a service like this because you could just start calling out general things. But we want to be sensitive to the spirit and not assume, you know, you've heard who. It was, Fred Price that wrote a book years ago called Faith, Foolishness and Presumption. What's presumption? Presuming you know without asking him. Presuming you already know without acknowledging him and asking him. Now, that's a big mistake. And if we're not careful, we can become acquainted with some flows and assume we know. So I just. I'm just checking, not assuming I know, because I don't want to be in presumption. I want to give him his opportunity. Because these services are his opportunity, and it's our opportunity to receive from Him. Receive from His Word. But these services are, first and foremost, his opportunity. Amen. And it just seems to me, unchecking, Ms. Reba, I want you to come back out, you sing whichever song you want to sing, but I want you to, as you sing, sing out different words of knowledge regarding healing. That seems to me what he wants to do. So if you. Whichever song. Whatever song you want to do. And let's not just assume that we have been to this place before. He always offers us something more. So let's not be on Autopilot. Let's be reaching out with our spirits to flow and respond to what he's doing. Amen. Hallelujah.

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God is in this place. God is in this place. Can you feel love's embrace? Hearts are here. God is in this place. And if you're in pain and you don't think you can hardly make it through these services, God says, I want to heal you now so you can enjoy the rest of the services. He wants to pour out the eye, pour out the wine and a holy ghost massage where you're hurting. I see angels ministering to people. So if you're in pain and you say, I need relief right now, why don't you raise your hands and wave at me? Is it all right if they come down real quick? Come on down if that's you. If you're at pain and you say, I need some relief, I need some relief right now. I don't need to wait till Thursday night. There are angels ministering to you. They're all around. They couldn't wait for you to get here cuz they knew they were going to minister to you. Stretch your hands this way. You want to help me? Spirit of pain, be gone. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus, we release the anointing that crushes every yoke. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. In Jesus name. Let that anointing flow from the top of your head to the souls of your feet. God is in this place. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Pain be gone. Be gone. You have no place here. You have no place here. Woo. Hallelujah. That's it, baby girl. That's it.

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Hallelujah. We receive.

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We believe. We receive right now. In Jesus name. In Jesus name. Hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, jesus. Thank you, jesus. Thank you jesus. Thank you jesus.

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In Jesus name. In Jesus name.

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Are you praying with us? Are you praying with us? And you believing with us? Hallelujah. God was in this place. God was in this place. He's present to heal. He's present to healed. In the name of Jesus. God is.

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Yes.

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Hallelujah. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Hallelujah. Thank you Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Hallelujah. In this place. In this place. Jesus sa. Jesus rain sa. Jesus sam sa. There is glory. God is in this place. God is in this place. Sa. Name. I. Jes el. Satan.

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Jesus name.

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God is in.

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This place. Hallelujah. You know, we come to service like this with expectancy, expecting God to fulfill the needs of people. They need to hear the word. They need for their spirit, their soul, their body. Financially, we expect it. But we have to be careful that we don't become familiar and treat it lightly. Amen. Because faith is always thrilled. Faith never treats it as common. And God meets us so much in these services. But I tell you what, it's precious to us. We don't treat this as a common thing. Amen. You're in a place tonight that many would long to be in. You're going to be in a place in these next three days that many need to hear what we're going to hear and what we're going to receive. And we're in the room that needs to matter to us. Amen. Just raise up your hands. We honor you, Father. We honor your word. We honor your plan for these services. Father, you told dad Hagin I have a plan. Jesus. You said it to him. I have a plan for every service. We honor that plan. We honor that plan. Because that plan holds all that we need. But it also awaits our response, and so we take it. We receive what you have for us in these services. And we absolutely refuse to leave the same way we came in. We refuse that we will not be robbed from by staying the same. But we are changed from glory to glory because, Father, you already told us you reward change with greater glory. So we've come in these services to change. Come up in our thinking, come up in our believing, come up in our speaking, come up in our doing, come up in our obedience to you, coming up in our consecration that that consecration matures in our life. And we thank you for not leaving us like you found us. Amen. You got something? Sister Pat, give me a microphone real quick. Grab me mic.

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Yeah, I'm just doing what God told me. Yeah, he just told me. Come stand beside you.

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Good.

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So I'm standing beside you? Yes, that's what he said do.

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Yeah.

[C]

So that's what I'm doing.

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Amen.

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And the anointing's flowing in you.

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Amen.

[C]

And you're strong, and it's exactly what you need at this hour. Yes. In n n to rem.

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Yeah.

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Strong anointing for the things that are coming. That have been not the time.

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But.

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The time is near. And you need that strong anointing because it's near. And you will walk through and you will obey and you will do exactly as I have asked because I trust you, because you have done so all along. So just be ready and know a few things are changing and the anointing needs to be strong. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. You need to stand her up one more time. I'm sorry. One more time. One more time. Mamaha sola sola.

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Oh, wolf. Wolf.

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Beast. Beast. Sinna. Take it in.

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Take it in.

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Take it in. Thank you, jesus. Thank you, jesus. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. For those of you that don't know, God is on the move. And he intends for all that he has said to be done. But it has to come through yielded vessels that are have been proven faithful and obedient. So what you need to do is pray. Pray in the Spirit. Pray in the Spirit. Because the spirit realm is where you hear from and where you get understanding. So listen and pray in the Spirit and expect change to come. Because it's coming. It's coming. It's coming. Ha ha. I'm ready. Are you? Hallelujah. I just need to lay my hands on you. Just because God said. Yeah, that's strong anointing. Yes, yes, yes. Take it in. Has purpose. So. So has purpose. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. The Spirit of the Lord is moving strong. Moving strong. Maybe I better hold on. The Spirit of the Lord is moving strong. But we have to prepare ourselves. We can no longer sit back and say, lord, I'm going tonight. It's going to be good. And then when you go out, don't know anything that happened that was said by the Spirit of God or the.

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Word of God that was taught.

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Why? Because you were there for a fuzzy feeling. Well, now's not the time for fuzzy feelings. Now is the time for the job to be done that God intended. And that is life changed. Life's changed. That's what we're here for. For lives to be changed by the word of God and the Spirit of God. But we have to do our part. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. And the key is faithfulness and obedience. One step or one hesitation of what God has said is disobedience. Do you understand that? One hesitation, one hesitation is disobedience. Ha ha.

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Whoa.

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Huh? Okay. I just obey God.

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Yeah.

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David, come down here. Hosea. Messiah. Messiah. Mesha.

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Ha.

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Now, some things aren't the way you desire, but that too is going to change. Because I have said. And I'm the one that caused it all to be. And what I caused to be does not change. Ha ha.

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Strong, strong.

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Stand him up again.

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Strong.

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Strong.

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Strong.

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Anointing coming upon him within. And it's all changed in Jesus name. Changed in Jesus name. Changed in Jesus name. Ha ha. You'll never be the same. You'll Never. You hear me? You'll never be the same. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. You'll never be the same. Never. Remember, you'll never be the same ever. And it's all changed. All changed. Let that come out of your mouth. Never be the same. It's all changed. Anytime there's thoughts that you know are.

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Not right.

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Speak what you said, what God said. It's all changed. Never be the same. It's all changed. Never be the same it's all changed.

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Oh, oh, oh.

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It's changed. Hallelujah.

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Glory to God.

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Well, we got that on you, Mr. Devil.

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One more down the dre.

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Hallelujah.

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Glory to God.

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What we need to understand and get in our minds. The devil is a liar, the father of lies, and there's no truth in him.

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None.

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So don't listen. Get in your mind. There is no truth in him, so do not listen.

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Listen.

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I think I'm done. Hallelujah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Okay. I'm done.

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It. Miss Leanne, come up here. Whatever you have, love, just come on up. Ms. Leanne, I know I don't. You could come on up. She helped lead prayer school at Prayer and healing school at Dead Hagens for a long time. How long?

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Eight years. 28.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Ra.

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Your glory, Lord, you, glory.

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It's in this place. It's in this room? Oh, yes, Father. Full of rasuedo gold and doors of raske grudu vuzhtangre dost.

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For there are doors open wide in glory, glory. His glory. His glory. There are doors open wide, enter yet don't have to ride.

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For there's assignments.

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Beyond the doors.

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You enter it, you're gonna find.

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Aha.

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As the doors of Rambash. For there are doors that are open wide for this season, for this hour, for you to boldly walk through.

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Doors.

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Of utterance, doors of demonstrations, doors where my glory will be in utter demonstration. Will you come on through?

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Will you boldly walk on through the doors I've made for you? Doors of utterance.

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Enter on through. And those miracles that you've been waiting to behold, you'll see. And they'll come in manifestation as you step boldly out into me. For through these doors, my glory is there to help. You'll sense your five senses, not just your natural five senses, but your spiritual senses. As you enter in, there will be no doubt. And then the king shall come. The king shall come.

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Oh, the king will come. Oh, he's gonna come. As you obey, step fully in the way. Oh, the king, the king, the king. He'll come.

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As you obey. For the more bolder you are, the greater demonstration will be and greater doors of utterance shall come forth. And you will speak as a woman of God. Is this okay that I'm kind of speaking to you right now, and I feel like you need to speak to me. But I hear as you step through those doors, asking, nobody bright shall it be, how bright it shall be. And it will cause the heavens to split open. And everyone that has ears and eyes to see here, they're going to take hold. And there will be a shaking in the kingdom of God that has yet to be seen, seen or to behold. That's what I see. Is the doors of Rabba. And there's a rivers of life that shall flow. For it's been in great demonstration, as you know, but greater it shall be because it's time to step over in the full eternal flow. I honor you and I respect you. So you feed me. You feed me. You feed me spiritually. I listen all the time because if I don't get fed, then I can. I can't fulfill what God's called me to do. And I'm so thankful that you're in your place as a mighty woman of God. And I believe dad Hagen was prophesying about you many years ago. He might not have said your name, but I believe he was speaking of you. I believe it with all my heart. So we are going to get on the back of your coattail and run with you all the way through. Glory to God. Hallelujah.

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Hallelujah. We worship you, Father. We glorify you. Thank you for the greatness of your plan for this hour. We're hungry for it. We're hungry for it. And we'll not only appreciate it, but we'll obey it and we'll move with it. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Just lift up your hands and let's pray in the Holy Ghost for a moment. Ambariata. Ambariata. The message. You know, when dad Hagen was having the Holy Ghost meetings, he made a statement and he said, God is endeavoring us to. Endeavoring to take us further into some things of the Spirit. Now I'm feeding back up here. If y' all can just adjust that for me. Thank you.

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But we.

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He's not here anymore, but he's still participating, and we've still got to go further. Amen. You can. You can be seated. And. Dad may. Dad Hagen made this statement. If you can teach people to follow their spirits. You can help them in every arena of life. Brother Copeland says it this way. We live from the inside out. Know that we live from the inside out. What's that mean? God deals with us through our spirits. We to recognize his dealings, we have to develop our spirits and be keen. Toward how he's dealing with our spirit. How do we become sensitive to our spirit? Because the Holy Spirit is within our spirit. And he will communicate God's plan, God's directives to us through our spirit. So the key is be sensitive to your spirit. And many are so practiced and entrenched in that mental arena. How do you shift from being dominated by that mental arena to being dominated by the spirit arena? Well, the word of God is sharp, quick, alive, sharper than any two edged sword. Look at this. Dividing asunder between soul and spirit. Not mingling, dividing them. And most Christians live with a mingled flow. They have mingled their own humanity, their own emotions and their own mental thinking in with the leading of the spirit. And then they say, well, I thought I was following God. Why didn't it work? Because you didn't divide it. You mean grace. Every time we respond based on the mental arena, our spirit loses proficiency. Every time we yield to our spirit over that mental arena, our spirit gains proficiency and our that mental arena loses the proficiency that it wants to try to lead and dominate our lives. We're led by our spirits. We're led by the spirit of God through our spirits. How do we shift from this mentally dominated flow to being led by our spirits? Number one, feed on the Word. Know this. The Holy Spirit is more interested in working with the Word than working with anything else or anyone else. Amen. He is always bringing us into a greater light of the Word. So number one, to become spiritually keen, feed on the word. Feed on the word. Don't just appreciate it, feed on it. Meditate on it. You know someone. I was doing an interview recently. When I was with the Copeland's ministry last week. In fact, Pastor George Pearsons is going to be. I don't know when it's going to be airing, but he's going to. He gathered many ministers that were there to recount experiences with dad Hagin just to honor what he has meant to past generations and current ones and future ones. And he asked one of the things in the interview with me, he asked what stood out the most to you? And I said, how do you narrow down. But I will say this about men who walk with God. They are so comfortable themselves, they don't try to appear to be spiritual. That's their. Their flow. They don't talk in scripture and verse. But scripture and verse governs everything. They talk. You understand that. This is called being dominated and led by your spirit. So how do we become more spirit led, more spirit? Because it's not about getting the spirit to lead us more. It's about our sensitivity to his leading. He's always. He's in there to lead. We don't have to ask him to lead us. To ask him to lead you is to imply he's failing at what he's there to do. Don't ask him to lead you. It's like if one of my sons got up and asked me to be their mother. Or ask us to parent them. What do you think we do every day? What do you think the Spirit is doing every day? He's endeavoring to lead us. You don't have to ask him to lead you. We need to become sensitive to his leading. That is always available. Amen. Amen. How do we become sensitive? Feed on the Word. Meditate on the word. It is the flow of our life. It is not the moments of our day. Just a moment here, a moment there. God said to me years ago, he said, in your devotional life, do not relegate your devotional life to a time. He said, your life is devotion to me. It's not devotional time. It's devoted life meaning. Everywhere we go, we acknowledge Him. Every when we get up, we acknowledge him. We bring him into everything and not just leave him in the moments of study or the moments of prayer.

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He is.

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Our life is the devotion. Romans 12, verse 1. Present your bodies to God. A living sacrifice, which is your spiritual worship is what the amplified said. In other words, worship is how we live. It's not just how we raise our hands, it's how we. It's the flow we choose every day. I present my body to God today, number one, to be sensitive to your spirit. Feed on the word. Meditate on the Word and let it govern. It is your day. It is your day. It's not just moments in your day. It is our day. The second thing is speak much in other tongues because you're stepping into a supernatural flow. The moment you speak in other tongues, you just left the natural. You just attached, yielded to, responded to the supernatural. But let me say this in speaking in other tongues. And you're okay if I left two sermons behind, right? When you speak in other tongues, you must practice quieting your mind. If you don't Practice quieting your mind. You will miss the full benefit that's to be gained through speaking in other tongues. Why? Because while you're speaking. Well, let me say this. How do you quiet your mind? Well, number one, focus on your spirit. Turn your attention this way toward your spirit. And if you'll do that, you'll recognize that fountain springing up, bubbling up. You'll sense the movement of the greater one on the inside, the unction of the Holy Ghost. Pay attention to that. Quit paying attention to this. Turn toward your spirit, attention wise. And if you'll focus on that, quiet that mind. Why is that? Because when God has something to say to you, it's going to float up from your spirit and enlighten your mind. And until your mind is enlightened, you won't benefit from what your spirit knows. Your spirit knows things. Our spirit knows things that our minds haven't caught up with yet. Let me give you an example. One of the things that had to be done was after Ed's homegoing, was the refinancing of this building. The building next door we had about 70% completed, but it was unfinished. And Ed had come into an agreement with the bank that they would do certain things for him. But we had to get refinanced because another bank bought the note. And they said, and we fund churches. We don't want churches on our books. So they did a deal for Ed, but we had to get refinanced. We could not get refinanced because we had an unfinished building. And nobody wants to finance an unfinished property. So basically, the money you need to finish a building from a bank, they won't give it to you until you finish the building. Then they'll give you the money. That's a system. But essentially, that's where we were at. We needed $400,000 to finish that building over there. I'm down in Texas preaching, and I received an email and said, by tomorrow from the bank. Tomorrow, we want to know where you're getting $400,000. Well, if I knew that, the building would have been finished, right? I looked in my purse. I look in Pastor Debbie's purse. This is sparkly. Can I sell this for $400,000? I didn't know where the money was going to come from, but by tomorrow, it's a threat because they, I'm servant to those. So I thought I got that message before I went to preach the service, and I thought, I don't have time for this. I gotta go preach. So I went to preach and I go to get in bed because I'm ready for bed, and I lay down, and the minute my head hits the pillow, I go, oh, yeah, they want to know where I'm getting $400,000 from. And I said to God, I said, this request catches me by surprise. But not you, not you. You have already completed. Let me read it to you. Hebrews, chapter four. Turn with me. Hebrews chapter four, verse three. The Amplified Classic translation. Just the last phrase of Hebrews, chapter 4, verse 3. His works had been completed and prepared and waiting. What's this mean? You're not waiting on God? His completed, prepared works are waiting on you. You're not waiting on God. Why is he so slow? He's not. He's patient. Till you get in faith and release your faith and receive by faith. So his works had been completed and prepared and waiting for all who would believe. It's not for everyone. It's for all who would believe. But for all who would believe from the foundation of the world. What's this mean? Before your needs showed up, he completed and prepared your answer for a need. Before the clock of this earth ever started clicking, he already completed it and prepared it. What's that mean? He is so far in front of your need, so far in front of your need. Jesus is called a lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Your salvation was already completed and prepared. Waiting. What's that mean? To despair is to forget God. To worry is to forget God because he already completed and prepared and it's waiting your answer, your supply, your healing, everything, your victory. Everything. This is the victory that overcomes the world, even our faith. What's that mean? Your victory is waiting for your faith to show up. That's what. Your victory's already completed and prepared. And it's just waiting for your faith to turn you into a partaker of what's been made yours all along. You can possess something but not be partaking of it. You can possess a kitchen full of food and not be partaking of it. Isn't that right? So I said to God, because I know this verse, I have spent this verse at every need. My answer, my supply, my help is already completed. I am not seeking help. My help's already completed. It's completed and it's prepared and it's waiting for me to respond to it rightly so that God can manifest it. So I said to him, I said, God, this request catches me unaware. I didn't know they were going to make this request. They didn't say by next week they said by tomorrow. First of all, what I did. Those words carry pressure. I left that pressure with those words. They're their words, not my words. That's their words. Don't let people transfer their pressure, their worry to you through their words. Let their words carry what they want to carry. But those aren't mine. Those aren't my words. So those aren't my doubts, my worries, my concerns, my pressure. I didn't mean. And listen, I didn't cop an attitude against the bank, why I owe them. If you cop an attitude, attitude against someone you owe, you're not right. Did you hear me? If you cop an attitude against someone you owe, you're not right. Because you took their money with that attitude. I'm just saying you got to be right on your insides. And I didn't cop an attitude. I didn't go to God complaining about their request. I went to God with what he said. And I said, father, I don't know where the money is, but you do. You know where it's at because this does not catch you off guard. You've already completed the supply for this you've already prepared, and it's waiting for me. You're not scrambling up in heaven to try to get something in place so that I can have a miracle. So I said, all I need to do is hear what you already completed and prepared. Why? Because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Look at this. Hearing by the word of God. Hearing what God says. Hearing what God says. Until we hear what God says, we don't have faith for that. And I said, God, all I need to do is hear what you've already completed, what you've already prepared. So I'm going to lay here and pray in the spirit so that. Because what is it? The Holy Ghost takes the mind of God and he reveals it to us. So, Holy Spirit. And I'm not praying to the Holy Spirit to lead me. I'm going to turn to him. Because that's what he's in there to do is to lead me. I'm going to acknowledge him. This is where many people miss it. They pray this way instead of turning this way to the divine genius who is in you to make known what this direction has already authored, what heaven's direction. People are trying to pray this way because they're waiting for God to send something down. And he did. It's called the Holy Ghost. He sent him down. He's in you turn toward him. So I said, I'm going to lay here and pray in the Spirit not. Because in. These are not. These are not emergency tongues. These are tongues so that my spirit can receive what the Holy Spirit is in there to communicate to me. So I just said it just that simply. I'm going to take this time, Father, to hear what you've already completed and prepared, because the Holy Spirit is in me to make that known. So now I give him that opportunity, and I take the opportunity to hear. And I just prayed that quick in English, and then I took off praying in the Spirit. But I did not lay there on that bed and try to figure out my options to figure out to get in that mental arena and try to figure out your options to a problem. You're going to miss what the Holy Spirit is saying to you because you're putting your attention and you're leaning toward the wrong realm, the wrong arena. Right? So I've got to quiet my mind because the mind wants to try to solve it itself. And if my mind could have, I would not have gotten a call from the bank that said, where are you getting. I would have called them and said, I haven't. Right? Because I figured it out. No, I couldn't figure it out. And you can't figure it out while you're praying in other tongues because you'll miss the wisdom of God. You'll miss what the Holy Spirit is trying to communicate. If I could say it this way. Give me all your stuff. This is the way I say if your mind is full. My hands represent your mind. My hands represent your mind. I'm figuring out options. Maybe I can do this. Maybe I can do this. Maybe I can do this. And then the Holy Spirit tries to tell me, and I can't receive it because I'm already occupied. My mind's already occupied. Yeah, that's real good. We have to unload mental options. Come on. Come on. I know this. Pastor Debbie's been shopping for one of these.

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Amen.

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So I laid in the bed and I quieted my mind. How did I do that? I turned this way. I paid attention to the movement, the fountain springing up to water, my need, and I just prayed in other tongues for 10 minutes. After 10 minutes, it literally seemed like a bubble. I don't know how to say it other than it was encapsulated. It seemed the wisdom of God.

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Shoo.

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Just floated up. And I knew, and he told me what to do. I, in fact, called Pastor Debbie because she used to work at a bank. And I. This was. So far, I've never worked with Banks like that. Ed always did that. And I called her and said, will Banks do this? She said, you never know. Try it. It matters that you call faith friends. When God tells you to do the absurd, you better have a friend that will say, let's go do it. You don't need the voice of reason. You need the voice of faith when you are given. Because when Jesus said, just take those water pots, fill them up with water. You don't need the voice of reason telling you, the governor of the feast is not going to be pleased with water. You got to have somebody who will fill the pot up with you. Somebody who will fill the pot with you. You better know who to call and who not to call. You better know who to talk to and who not to talk to. When you need a miracle, you don't have any room except for what God says. You don't need to listen to what loved ones always say if their minds are not in tune with a renewed mind. So thank God, I called Pastor Debbie. And she didn't say, I don't know. I've never seen that done. And she had not seen that done. What I explained to her. She said, you don't know. Just do it. I said, okay, here goes. And I went in there and told them. When I got home, I told them what God said to me. Well, first of all, let me tell you what I did. Let me tell you what I did. Ed had only been gone maybe five, six months. And so the person with our case and another one walked in. And I'm sitting at the table, and they said. They walked in somber. Cause they don't know what kind of condition the widow's in. And they walked in and they kind of said, Mrs. Dufresne, we're sorry about your loss. Oh, yeah, you gonna take that pocher? Me, too. I will spend that widow card all day long. All day long. All day long. I'll meet them where they're at. If it will win me. If it will win me. Something I just dropped. I said, thank you. Like, don't pick on the widow.

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Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Yes.

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Right, right, right.

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And they said, we need to know where you're getting that $400,000. And I explained to them what heaven said. They didn't recognize Heaven said this. And the woman who was over our account said, no, we're not going to do that. But faith for the unsaved even comes by hearing. Faith for everything. And everyone comes by hearing. So I went through the whole thing again and explained. And they said, no, we're not going to do that. I knew they weren't listening because they had already settled on the route they were going to take. And I'm offering them another route. So they need to keep hearing it so they can recognize that this route's better than your route. Because my route came from and yours didn't. Took me three times. But faith comes by hearing, don't be afraid to tell them again and again and again. Because many people will say, well, that didn't work because they said no the first time. Well, the reason they said no, because they're inviting me to tell it again. They want to hear it. After three times of hearing, it dawned on them that they were now listening to my words instead of in there to carry out their plan. And I heard, I saw, you know, you saw it dawn on them. And they go, I don't know why that wouldn't work. I'll take that before the committee. Tomorrow the committee meets. And I turned my administrator who was there with me, and I said, she's the head of the committee. We got. Wasn't a loan. They didn't give us a loan. But it was just God. It was just heaven's genius. How did that come? Because I acknowledged, acknowledged I didn't go to this arena to try to fix a spiritual problem. The mental arena can't fix spiritual needs. And a miracle is a spirit, spiritual need. Healing is a spiritual need. Wisdom is a spiritual need. All of these, God deals with us through our spirit. So our success lies in becoming more and more sensitive to the Holy Ghost. As dad Hagin said, if you can teach people to follow their spirits, you can help them in every arena of life. Years ago, a pastor friend of my husband and I, he talked about his congregation, bought him a birthday gift. And the birthday gift was an experience of going to the racetrack and driving a race car with race car drivers. Not with amateurs, not with, like you and me off the road, but race professional race car drivers. And they bought him that. You can buy me something different than that. And, you know, I'm sure David would like that. David would like that. You would like that. I would like something I can walk out and wear. And so this professional race car driver was, if I could say this, a pace car to him. I don't know all the terms, so forgive me if I say it wrong. And he said to him, he said, you've never been to this course. I'm on it all the time. I know it. I know when to go high on the track, and I know when to go low if you think you should go low. When you and I go high, don't go by what you think. Think you go where I go. And he said, even if you think you can't make that kind of.

[B]

A.

[A]

Turn, he said, if I can make it, you can make it now. He said, get on my bumper. Don't lag behind. Can I help people who are following somebody in a car?

[B]

That's exactly right.

[A]

There's nothing that's more difficult than for people to follow you who lag so far behind they can't get through the lights with you.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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And now you gotta pull off on the side of the road. And in California, if you're following at night, you're going to. Somebody's going to get in between you, and even though they're up there and you're back here, you're going to lose pace. If you lose pace, you're gonna. Which car? Which car? Because your tail lights all begin to look alike to a girl. Maybe not to a guy, but to a girl, they all look alike. And this pace car, this professional driver, said to him, get on my bumper. He said, don't come off my bumper. He said, if I accelerate, you accelerate, even if you think you can't handle. He said, if I can make it, you can make it. He said, if you will follow me closely, my skill will become your skill. It's not the pastor's skill. It's him adapting himself. It's him putting his preference on the professional driver's pace instead of the pastor's comfort with that setting. So he did it. And when they passed that finish line, because they clocked it and everything, and he's out there with other drivers, they said, you just now experienced what? The win of what a professional race car driver would have experienced. That's what the holy. It's not our skill, it's his. It's not our genius. It's not our wisdom. It's not our ability. It's his. It's his. We hook on and he makes us look good. He said this pastor said those other race car drivers came up to him and said, no one has clocked the time you've been. What was that? He experienced the success of the one he followed. It wasn't his success. It was the pace car's success. The Holy Ghost is our pace car. If we will stick close and follow. And when our mind says, don't make that turn, make that turn. Because if he's going that way, my success isn't Going that way, That pastor had to put down every inclination to break every like, don't follow so close. He had to put down every one of those wanting to respond a certain way way. That's how you become skillful with following the Holy Ghost. Put down what the mental, what the reasonings, what history, what your past says this won't work. Put it all down. If he's leading, your success is in how closely you follow. Thank God for the Holy Ghost. Now God planned it, Jesus purchased it, and the Holy Ghost leads us into it. You can't get into it without him. You can't know all that God planned and you can't experience all Jesus purchased unless the Holy Ghost is followed because he's the one who knows how to bring us into it. If we'll follow him, he'll lead us into healing when people need healing. He'll lead you on what verse to stand on. He'll lead you on what correction to make. He'll lead you on what to adjust. He'll lead you into the fulfillment of everything that God planned for us and everything Jesus purchased for us. Amen. One of my favorite. You've probably heard these, but you're going to hear them again because we're still learning. We're still learning. I don't have time now, but years ago I used to watch the Food Network. What? Food Channel, Food Network, whatever. Because it made me feel domestic. That's the only reason Grant would say, I don't know why you watch that. You don't do it. I said you. You know something? That statement doesn't bother me because I'm not deceived. I don't intend to do it. Don't intend to. I'm not acting like I'm a doer. I'm not. I'm not self deluded. I don't intend to do it. I'm just gonna enjoy watching what they do. Then I'll get up and go through a drive through and that cupcake war or whatever they do, you know?

[B]

Right?

[A]

And all of a sudden you gotta have it. So I said to Grant, I don't intend to do it. I'm not deceived. So I would just tell. I would just light candles that smell like food, like buttercream icing, you know, that one pumpkin. And so I'm watching. This was years ago. I'm watching the Food Network and it's about pastry chefs. Okay? It's a dessert challenge. It's not a whole meal challenge. It's just desserts. So they had a Panel of four judges who were top in that field. I mean, they were world renowned pastry chefs. And so before they started the actual competition, they had a challenge. And whoever won the challenge won a benefit that would help them in the competition. So this one lady, there's four competitors. This one lady wins the challenge. Her reward or her prize for winning the challenge was one of those judges went into her kitchen and spends. She had 30 minutes to make a dessert of her choice. They didn't tell her what dessert she got to choose. 30 minutes in that kitchen. But the judge will come in for 10 minutes and do anything you ask that judge to do. Now, this is where the woman started derailing and I started yelling at the tv. I normally don't talk to the television, but this day, the judge walks in and the judge said, what would you like to make? Now, let me tell you the right answer. She should have said, I had a recipe planned. But since I have you. Since I have you. Since I have you. When that world renowned pastry chef walked in, that chef walked in with all their genius, all their years of experience, all their cooking repertoire, every recipe that this amateur cook did not possess. So this is what the competitor's response should have been when the judge said, what would you like to make? I was gonna make this, but since you're in my kitchen, what can you start in 10 minutes? Because really, someone who is really skilled and graceful in a kitchen, boy, they're pure art in the kitchen, right? They can do in 10 minutes what I would fumble over for an hour, right? Some people are graceful in the kitchen. Not me. It's like, well, there was, oh, where's the, you know, there's no flow. There's no flow. That's how I know the Holy ghost is that want me in there. So this competitor should have said, what can you make in 10 minutes? Or start in 10 minutes that I can finish. I will throw out my recipe. But this competitor said, well, I'm going to make a strawberry dessert. So you're telling me you're staying with your recipe when genius just walked into your kitchen. You're going to stay with your recipe. I'm already fuming. I'm talking to that screen. I'm talking. You deserve to lose. You deserve to lose. You have genius in your kitchen and you stuck with your recipe. Did you get that? Genius of the plan of God steps into our life. We will not stick with our recipe. We will not stick with our plan. We will not stick with what we figured out and calculated. Because genius came to the kitchen of my life, right? So I'm already screaming at the tv, you must lose. You must. Because you don't know what to do with genius. You don't know. So the judge was perfectly appropriate. Did not push, did not question. The Holy Ghost is always perfectly appropriate. He will not push. He will not check your sanity. That's up to us to check our sanity. He will not force his genius upon us. So the chef said, okay, what would you like me to do to help you? You do this dessert. And this is what this competitor said. Would you chop the strawberries? And every judge goes, oh, my. And they put the camera on the judge table. Oh, my gosh. I go, you're losing. You're losing. You must lose. You must lose. Because you took genius and relegated it down to chopping strawberries. You turned the genius of this chef into an amateur task. You should have chopped the strawberries. If you're gonna stick with your bad recipe, you should've chopped the strawberry. Finish the challenge. The judge said, are you sure you just want me to help you by chopping strawberries? The judge was not offended. The judge was not offended. The judge was appropriate because the judge knew that your choice. I'm in your kitchen. I want you to know your life is your kids kitchen. And the Holy Ghost will not. But he may say to you, if the Holy Ghost ever asks you a question, it's not because he doesn't know the answer. It's because we don't know the answer. It's because we don't. We don't know the answer. And even if we think we know the answer, don't answer it. Don't answer it. Never answer a question that God asks you. Follow his question up with another question, which is, would you tell me that's the answer? And that chef asked her, are you sure? There are times God will pose that to are you sure? Sometimes it's your pastor saying, are you sure? If your pastor is asking, are you sure they're not looking for a faith confession? If you're. Let me say it again. If your pastor asks you, are you sure they're not asking for a faith confession? They're asking for you to listen and say, maybe I'm not sure. Because the leading of the spirit, when he's leading, there's a certainty you know it. So of course this woman lost. And I was gratified. But God has never failed at anything he's ever done. God has never failed at anything he has ever done. Now people have failed to follow him. But God has never failed. And because we're created in his image, it's possible to never miss it again. If we will follow, if we will follow, if we will follow, how do we learn? Number one, feed on the Word. Let that word help you to recognize what came out of your mind and what came out of your spirit. Because the word of God is alive. It's a living thing. We're never stopped speaking. It never stops unveiling and revealing revelation. That's how come we can go to mark 11, 23, 24 and get more light. Because it's a living thing that never reaches the end of revelation. There's never a single stopping point to any revelation in the word. And so if we will feed on that word, it will help us to divide and recognize what that came out of my mind. Because when the Holy Ghost speaks to you, it floats up and enlightens your mind from here. And when the devil speaks does not mean God was in it. Amen. Will help us to become sensitive to our spirits if we will turn this way and pay attention to our spirits as we're speaking in other tongues. Quiet the mind. Practice quieting the mind. What is that? You're stepping outside of that arena that the devil works in when you choose to turn away from the mental arena. Arena. Anytime I sense troubling, I know I have just turned toward the wrong arena. I just. I went up to the mental arena because there's no troubling in my spirit arena. There's no troubling here. And if I'm troubled, it's because my attention is turned toward the wrong arena. You know, whenever Paul. Paul said it this way, 1 Corinthians, chapter 16, verse 9, he said, a great and effectual door is opened unto me. But there's what adversaries at the door. What's that mean? There's going to be opposition when it's time to come into more. When it's time to come into something further that God has for you. Increase promotion. The devil will not stand back and congratulate you. He will stand there and try to trouble that entrance to either try to hold you out of going through that door or. Or go in with you through wrong thinking. He will like to trouble you so that he doesn't mind if you get to the next arena as long as you carried wrong thinking in there with you. Because he can only work through wrong thinking. God can't work through wrong thinking. That's how the devil works. He works through wrong thinking. So when we come into a point of transition or change. We have to guard our thinking, be watchful always over our thought life. But at a time of increase, the devil is going to try to trouble that mental arena, because that's his arena. And so he's trying to entice you, turning your attention toward that mental arena. And he will energize the arena. If you turn to the mental arena, the devil will energize that arena. So in coming into some things of increase, I recognize that God was doing. I also. I'm hearing opposition, I'm hearing threats, I'm hearing suggestions. You can't stop them from coming, but you can stop your tension from going with it. And after several days, I go noticing this too much, Father, forgive me, because I'm too accessible to that arena. If we're troubled, it's because we became too accessible to the troubling arena. Psalm 91, verse 8, the amplified translation says dwelling in the verse 1 talks about dwelling in the the secret place of the Most High. Do you have that pulled up on your. I want the exact wording of verse eight. Do you have that? Who has that? Nine, verse eight, Amplified. Tell it to me. Read it to me. I'll just tell them. Only a spectator shall Only a spectator shall you be yourself inaccessible in the secret place of the Most High. Just stop right there. Only a spectator shall you be not a participator with troubling thoughts, a spectator. That which tries to trouble this arena, you'll only spectate. You'll not participate. It'll happen to others, but not to you. If you stay inaccessible through staying with acknowledging his presence, turning toward his presence. God said this to me sometime back. He said, living in My presence does not come by earning, it comes by turning. Meaning this? You can't read your Bible long enough to earn his presence. You can't pray long enough to earn his presence. Why? I'm not belittling, reading our Bible or praying. I'm saying that's not what we turn toward Him. We don't earn Him.

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Him.

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He is ours. He made Himself ours. That was his choice, not ours, His. Not only do we belong to him, but he belongs to us. Turn toward Him. That means, even if you missed it, you've been out of the will of God. You can at that moment acknowledge it, repent and turn to right back and be right in his presence. And you don't have to go through weeks and months of beating yourself up and getting under condemnation because you enjoy him by turning, not by earning through your behavior. Turning, turning. And I said to God, I said, I repent. I have been too accessible to these thoughts. I've been too accessible. Accessible. It's not about getting the devil to leave you alone. It's by ignoring him. Amen. Well, praise the Lord. Hallelujah. We're learning. I said, we're learning. We're learning. Father, we thank you tonight. How you have blessed us, we've received tonight, Father. Stand with me if you would. Tonight, Father. There's more for us. And we go with you into that. And we know this, that it takes more than longing to go further. But we take the steps to go further. We choose to live and walk in the light of the word. Doers of your word. That's us. We're doers. We feed on it. We meditate on it. And we do that word. And we thank you, Holy Spirit. We acknowledge you not just during services, but in the middle of the night. If we wake up. We acknowledge you when we wake up in the morning. We acknowledge you when we get out of bed. We acknowledge you when we're getting dressed, when we're driving to work or running errands or diapers. Bring our babies. That's all a place where we can just continue to flow with you. And we thank you that. That anointing abides in us. We have an unction from the Holy One. And you teach us all things. And you're teaching us how to receive, become partakers of all that God provided. And we acknowledge when. We thank you tonight. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit [e-mail] to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.