Podcast Summary: “Skillful Faith” | Edwin Anderson | Holy Ghost Meetings 2020

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode Date: January 6, 2020
Location: World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA
Speaker: Pastor Edwin Anderson

Episode Overview

This episode features Pastor Edwin Anderson ministering on the topic of “Skillful Faith” during the Holy Ghost Meetings at World Harvest Church. Anderson weaves personal history, church heritage, and practical teaching on faith, emphasizing the necessity of skill, discipline, and hearing God's Word as the pathway to living out an effective, generational Christian life. The message encourages believers to cultivate, protect, and skillfully operate in faith, especially in the context of local church life and spiritual revival.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Generational Blessing & Faithfulness in the Local Church

• Anderson opens with gratitude for the Dufresne family and reflects on nearly 40 years pastoring his own church.
• He describes how a multigenerational church builds spiritual heritage—families raising children and grandchildren in faith.
• The longevity of faithful families demonstrates spiritual principles in action, not theory:

  “Those families are still serving God...witnessing their grandchildren being filled with the Holy Spirit, worshiping God, living right, living clean, applying the word of God, living by faith. It doesn't happen outside the local church, but it only happens inside the local church as people are diligent to put the word into practice.” (07:36)

2. Impartation and Ministry to Next Generation

• Anderson participates in a brief prophetic and laying-on-of-hands moment for Pastor Morgan and Stephen, highlighting God’s increasing plan for their lives and church:

  “…there’s going to be an increase in the speed… I’m going to bring you into the place that I picked out for you before time began…and the fruit will not just satisfy you…it’ll carry people, lives changed…” (13:24)

3. The Foundation and Function of Faith

a. Faith Must Be Maintained

• Faith described as dynamic—growing or diminishing, never static.
• Uses analogy of maintaining a car or updating devices:

  “Faith is sort of like that. It has to be maintained. …If you don’t update them, they’ll stop working. Faith…has to be maintained. It has to be updated because we want our faith to be ready.” (22:55)

b. Without Faith, It’s Impossible to Please God

• Cites Hebrews 11:6 and explains that faith is non-negotiable for pleasing God.

  “He didn’t say that God is not pleased if you don’t have faith…without faith it’s impossible to please God.”

• Even experiencing God’s love requires faith.

c. Hearing the Word is the Only Way Faith Comes

• Faith comes by hearing, specifically the Word of God (Romans 10).
• Urges intentional, daily routines to carve out time for hearing God’s Word:

  “Nothing you do during the day will produce an ounce of faith except hearing the Word of God.” (31:12)

4. The Enemy's Strategy: Stealing the Word

• References the Parable of the Sower and highlights that Satan’s goal is to steal the Word to prevent faith from growing and producing results:

  “Satan wants to take…steal the Word…because faith comes by hearing the Word. Satan wants to…stop your faith.” (37:16)

• Anderson humorously observes:

  “Satan always comes to church. He’s here today. He wants to see what you’re going to do…If you don’t respond right, he’s going to steal it.” (38:54)

5. Resisting the Devil and Skillful Faith

• Compares resisting the devil to martial arts: it's not about fighting, but skilled resistance.
• Personal anecdotes about his grandsons' martial arts, illustrating the importance of practiced, reflexive resistance rather than passivity.
• Links spiritual resistance to the “fight of faith”—believing, speaking, acting, and praising God.

6. Skill in Faith Comes by Practice

• Draws from Hebrews 5:12–14, emphasizing that mature believers have “their senses exercised to discern both good and evil”:

  “It is possible and necessary that we train our senses…Not everything I see do I believe. Not everything that I hear do I need to believe. We’re training our senses to recognize what is in line with the Word and what isn’t.” (56:05)

• Uses analogy of his grandsons learning piano—skill comes by repeated practice, not mere observation.

7. Spiritual Hunger, Revelation, and More

a. The Mysteries of the Kingdom—For the Hungry

• Unpacks Matthew 13’s teaching that “mysteries” are for those who persist, not just for the select few:

  “The only difference is the mysteries are secret truths, but they’re not kept from us, they’re kept for us.” (68:08)

• Distinguishes between excited faith and informed faith:

  “Excited faith will carry you about halfway through the battle, informed faith will take you all the way through and see the manifestation.” (78:41)

• Recounts Kenneth Copeland’s example of ongoing spiritual hunger: instead of relaxing after ministry, returning to the Word.

b. The Necessity of Ongoing Hearing

• Failure often comes after people stop hearing the Word; ongoing nourishment is essential:

  “The reason that happens…is no longer hearing. I stopped hearing.” (82:09)

8. Final Encouragement & Prayer: Pressing In for More

• The episode concludes with a prophetic encouragement to pursue greater revelation, stressing that “there’s so much more enlightenment, so much more development, so much more.”
• The coming revival is one of “informed faith—revelation knowledge poured out upon the hungry.” (98:39)
• Any believer can have the revelation they need:

  “There’s not any revelation you can’t have that you need… There’s nothing in these last days that we cannot have. And I believe we will have. Ordinary folk like you and me, ordinary people, walking in things that the prophets longed to see.” (101:47)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Living the Word:

  “It’s a wonderful thing to see. …There are people who 35, 40 years ago, got ahold of that Word and they actually practiced it. …Those families are still serving God.” (07:36)

• On Faith Maintenance:

  “Faith…has to be maintained. …if you don’t update [your devices], they’ll stop working. Faith is a lot like that.” (22:55)

• On the Importance of Hearing:

  “Wouldn’t it behoove us…to discipline ourselves, to let nothing else interfere with a segment of time…to make sure we hear the Word of God?” (31:28)

• On Spiritual Skill:

  “My grandsons are skillful on the keyboard because they’ve practiced… That’s what the Lord is leading all of us into…this daily practice of faith.” (60:06)

• On Revelation and Hunger:

  “Mysteries are secret truths, but they’re not kept from us, they’re kept for us.” (68:08)
  “This is a revival that is carried on the wings of informed faith—revelation.” (98:39)

• On the Boundlessness of Spiritual Knowledge:

  “There’s not any revelation that we can’t have. …Nothing we need that we can’t have… Ordinary folk like you and me…walking in things that the prophets looked and longed to understand.” (101:47)

Important Timestamps

• Generational church/heritage: 02:00–12:00
• Prophetic impartation: 13:24–17:35
• Introduction to faith and the necessity of faith: 19:00–29:00
• Hearing the Word and faith’s growth: 29:00–40:00
• Parable of the Sower—enemy strategies: 37:00–45:00
• Martial arts analogy—skillful resistance: 45:00–55:00
• Skill, practice, and exercising senses: 56:05–62:00
• Revelation and spiritual hunger, Matthew 13 unpacked: 66:00–77:00
• Excited vs. informed faith, Kenneth Copeland anecdote: 78:30–83:00
• Ongoing hearing/why people lose what they receive: 82:00–84:00
• Closing exhortation and prophetic prayer: 98:39–104:00

Tone and Style Notes

Pastor Anderson’s tone is warm, humorous, and story-driven, frequently illustrating spiritual truths with practical, everyday analogies and affectionate references to family and church life. The message is both encouraging and challenging, balancing doctrine with experience and inspiring listeners to not settle but press for more revelation and skill in faith.

Summary Takeaway

This episode calls listeners to recognize the spiritual power available through faithful hearing and doing of God’s Word, to skillfully resist demonic opposition, and to actively seek greater revelation and spiritual inheritance—not just for themselves, but for generations to come. Anderson makes clear that this kind of “skillful faith” isn’t theoretical—it’s learned, practiced, maintained, and available to every believer and church family willing to press in for more.