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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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Hallelujah.
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We're living on the victory side.
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Amen. Amen.
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Amen.
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I love the verse when she started singing it. The prayer side of victory. Amen. Living in victory in our prayer life. And what we're praying out and living from a place of victory. You know, we're supposed to live this way all the time. Even when the enemy's knocking at your door. We're supposed to be living in victory, right? We're supposed to be laughing and rejoicing. That's a part of called walking in the spirit, right? Living in the spirit. Glory to God.
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I'm living in the spirit. Everything is mighty fine. Hallelujah. Living in him.
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Oh, he told me to use the mic if I Hallelujah. I don't know if I'm going to keep singing, though.
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Living in the spirit. Living in him. Glory to God. There's victory all the time.
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And the prayer supply that we all individually carry. We're supposed to be living in victory, right? And sometimes it's a flat decision to live in victory, to live in peace, to live in joy. And don't you love it? I was listening to Brother Hagin just the other day and he was telling a story. I can't remember the full. The full part of it right now, but he was living in victory. And the devil kept saying, why you laughing for? Why you laughing for? And dad just told him, I'm laughing at you, you laughing at me for. See, when you're living in victory, you're laughing when you're living in victory. And I'm sure Dad probably didn't feel like laughing right away. I remember a time that I was having to believe God. I think I'll talk for. I'll switch real quick. I remember I was a Rhema grad, but I was 19 years old and I was living in the house my dad built and my family had moved all out to Tulsa and he had gotten a second mortgage on his home. Very small payment, very small payment. And I told him, dad, no problem, I'll take care of that. But I was dumb. Gray McGrad, 19 years old, and I wanted to buy clothes instead. And I just was foolish. And I didn't make the mortgage payments like I should have. And I didn't tell my dad. That's called dum dum ditty dumb. And I'll never forget it. I was sitting at the kitchen table and I knew that I had to have $6,000 pronto. And I didn't have it. $6,000 was a million dollars to me. And I was like, dear God. And I remember sitting there at the table and they had sent letters. We're going to auction the house. That's how far I let it go. You know, sometimes we can be stupid. And I was really dumb and I'll never forget it as long as I live. Sitting at that kitchen table in the big house five bedroom home that my dad had built. And I'm crying, father, I know I shouldn't have bought all that stuff and I should have been doing what I just was bad in my finances. Oh God, aren't you thankful he's merciful when we're stupid. You know, I'm 19 years old and I'm sitting there and I'm just boohooing and just asking him to forgive me. You know, I found out from him, he's merciful. And I was just like, oh God, what am I going to do, lord? I need $6,000. I don't know, I don't know where I'm going to get it. I know I could call dad, but I know he hasn't got that right now and he going to hurt me. And I just don't do that, Lord. And I just was praying, thank God for the Holy Ghost. So I'm sitting there and I begin to pray. I prayed everything I knew to in English and I began to pray in the Spirit. Romans 8, 26, you know, and so as I'm praying in the Holy Ghost, I know it was a good 20 minutes. I used to say, if you came by the house and if you listened to what was going on, the inside, it sounded like a big old cow getting ready to die. Because I mean, I was like, oh God. Oh. I mean, I was moaning, moaning. And you know, about 20 minutes goes by and I heard, you know, isn't, aren't you thankful for ministers that speak into your life? And Keith Moore, I heard him say this and I don't know if it was healing school or prayer school back in the day. He said, you know, there's going to become a time in your life that you're going through something and you're just going to have to laugh when you don't feel like it. And I heard him as if he was sitting at the table right beside me and I was like, I don't feel like laughing. And then I just, I made myself. Now it was a little scary because I was sobbing and I Was going to. Oh, God. Oh, I'm not kidding you. I mean, it was that bad. How many have ever been there like that, you know? And I was just going at it, going at it. But I kept. Oh, I just kept doing it. After quite a few minutes, and it was quite a few. All of a sudden, I noticed, I went, ha ha ha ha. Before you know it, I'm really laughing. You know, some people say, oh, so you got the victory. What happened is I got on top of the barrel that the devil had put on me, and I allowed it to happen. But I finally got on top of that barrel. He was no longer playing drums on the top of it. I'm now on top of it. See, some people stop too quick and think, oh, I got it. But see, I knew I had it. But I knew I was finally at a place of. I'm now on top. I'm seated with him. Even though I made mistakes, his mercy endures forever. And now here I am. I'm back seated where I'm supposed to be, and I'm laughing. Glory to God. Well, I'll tell you what. This little girl, Pentecostal holiness girl, she got her anointing oil out. She went through that entire house. She laid hands. I did. I laid hands on all the walls. Went upstairs, downstairs. I said, this is my house. And I just went after it. Said, devil, you're a liar. I made a mistake. But God's mercy endures forever. And I'm asking you, Father, for $6,000 to come in. And I thank you that it's coming. And then I went to it in the spirit. I'm thankful for my Pentecostal mama, man. I went after it, and I didn't stop until I knew I had the note of victory. See, once again, we can stop too quick. You don't want to stop too quick. You want to make sure you've done Romans 8:20. When you've done all you know to do, you keep praying. The Holy Spirit's going to help you do it. And so he helped me. And so I just kept praying in the spirit. And then all of a sudden, breakthrough, man. I started dancing. I started rejoicing. I started shouting, I thank God for the money. I thank God for the money. I rejoiced in it that evening. I'll never forget. I went to bed and was getting ready to go to sleep because I needed the money the following morning. And then when I woke up in the middle of the night, the devil was there. You're not gonna get it. How Many has ever done that to you. You're not gonna get it. And then being taught underneath dad Hagin I just said for you even talking to me right now lets me know that I've already got it. And I said, you're not gonna disturb my sleep. And I was a 19 year old kid, can't tell me the word doesn't work no matter what age you are. And I just began to rejoice and went right back to sleep again. A few hours goes by, you're not gonna get it just because you're talking to me again. Trained underneath dad. Isn't that how he taught us? I was like, just because you're talking to me lets me know I've already got it, I'm going to sleep. Fell back asleep. I think he probably woke me up maybe three or four more times that morning. When I woke up, you might say, oh, you were so refreshed and you were like, no, the enemy was right there to say you're not going to get it. But I came right back at him. Just because you're talking to me lets me know I've already got it.
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I've prayed it through. God's mercy endures on me. I messed up, but God is bigger than my mess up. And I thank you f that that.
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Money'S coming my way.
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I thank you father, I rejoice in you.
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That morning the phone rang. I answered it. You know, that's back when you had phones in your house and not your cell phone. And I answered the phone and this individual said, are you so and so's daughter? My dad's name. And I, I was like, yes. He said, this is going to sound a little crazy. And I thought, oh no it ain't. He said, but do you need $6,000?
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Yes, I do.
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He said, well, you know what, I'm going to come right now and bring it to you. Thank you, thank you. He said, it's been so on my heart, God's just been speaking to me. I go praise God. I've been believing God for that. He brought the money straight to me and the house was paid for and I got the victory. But how many of you know sometimes you don't feel like you've got the victory and you've got to, you know, I like what Keith used to say all the time, fake it till you make it. You gotta just laugh, you've gotta just declare, you've just gotta decree. But you know, there's something about it when you can laugh with a skip, you know what I mean, when you can so rejoice because you know you've already got it. Living from that place of victory. Glory to God. That song got us wound up today. Glory to God. Well, turn to somebody and tell them I've got it.
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What do you got?
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The victory.
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Amen.
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We've got victory. Glory to God. Well, guys, we just counted an honor and a privilege to be with you guys again this morning. This morning, as we were getting ready to walk out the door, I looked at Pastor Nancy and I said, am I on today? She said, yeah, but I'm not gonna introduce you.
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I didn't say in that city.
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Oh, she said, she didn't say it that snarky, but that's how I received it. I'm gonna be very nice today. Last night after the service, I was beating myself up. I shouldn't have been so mean. I shouldn't have been so mean, you know? Is that your phone now going off?
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You got joke. She's got jokes. So if I hear that sound, I'd better shut up and move on. How many times are we gonna hear it today? I better stay good with. All joking aside, Pastor Nancy, we love you and I thank God for you. You have blessed me more than you'll ever know. You've helped me through many things through the Word, and I'm so thankful that God has been brought you into all of our lives. And thanks for living the life that you've lived. And it's such an honorable life that even the few months that I've had the opportunity to get to know you a little more, you really lived this. And I am just so thankful, you know, being around Brother Hagin for the short time that I was in the group and stuff, you know, I watched him. How many of you watch people don't you watch? And I would watch him when things would occur, like when we'd be on the ministry jet or something, you know, and some things would be said or done. I watched him walk in love. I watched him not take in to speaking bad about others. I watched him live the life that he taught all the time. And being around her mercy, she lives it. And I'm so glad that her life convicts me. It pushes me into living better, into being a better believer, being a better person, even though I like to have fun, you know, God's got personality. Look around the room. Come on. He's got personality, you know, And I'm thankful for that, you know, but just because I'm joking doesn't mean that I don't honor that gift right there. She's beautiful inside and out. And I'm thankful for her and her family and the ministry that God has given her. And aren't you thankful? You know, I don't want you to raise your hand right now, but I just want to ask a question. You know, the ministry that God hooks you to is a ministry that you should be carrying in prayer. I don't want you to raise your hand, but just think about this. How many of you are carrying this ministry in prayer? Not just once a month, not just when you turn on Jesus the healer. Oh, I need to pray for her. Just a question, just a thought. You know, being at Rhema for so many years and serving there, you know, for 28 years, I mean, I carry them in prayer all the time. And there were times that I'd like to sleep when I knew I couldn't. There were times that I didn't want to pray about something, but I knew I had to. And the joy of it is this what you sow to is what you reap from. And you want to undergird the ministries, the ministry that God where your feeding station is. You don't want to not be responsible for spiritual truths. You want to be responsible for it. You want to pray it out. You want to help undergird. Whether she ever knows your name or not, it doesn't matter. I served at Rhema for years before Brother Hagin even knew my name. I was always more shy, more quiet, more reserved, and would prefer to stand in a corner and pray than to get up and do anything else. That's how shy I was. And if you really push me, you'll find that I'll always say, why don't you preach, Pastor Noel? You sure you want me to? Because I'm fine not to. You might say, oh, you just sound so holy and so religious. No, no. It's just I've learned that when I spend time with God in prayer, I grow. I get to see. I get to know things and operate from such a place of seeing and knowing, and it doesn't matter if anybody knows what I'm doing, right, Candice? It doesn't matter. You just want to do Kingdom business. I used to tell the students all the time, you're here on Kingdom business. Our life is all about fulfilling what he's called us to do. What does he want us to do? That's all that matters. What do you want me to do? Where do you want me to go? How do you want me to say it? What do you want me to do you know, that should be our prayer. It's not about who knows you. It's not about how many doors are going to open wide for you. I don't want to go through any door that's not mine to go through. I just want to be in the will of God because he's my heart. Isn't he your heart? He's our life. He's our everything. And I love in him realities that our security and our completeness, our identity should be in him, not in what somebody thinks of you or what platform opens to you. My identity is in Christ. Pastor Nancy might not like me after this conference, but guess what? I'm still gonna come, and I'll be smiling at her, probably still going, you're older than me. She's trying, she's trying. It's all right. Going on, going on. But my identity is not wrapped up into what people think our identity should be. So in him, what does he say? What does he desire? Have you ever noticed that most prayers. Don't really want to be seen all the time? They just want to stay in the background? I have to push my flesh to want to get up all the time. I'm still one of those. I know Patsy Camonetti, she said, you know, if you don't get butterflies before you speak, I'd have to wonder about you. And I thought, well, praise the Lord. I got butterflies up here, you know, because my most favorite place is shut in with God. You might say, oh, you're so spiritual. Are you serious? Have you found out? You know, I don't remember somebody. I don't know if it was Morgan. Somebody said this. You know, it seems like people that pray are usually the most normal. So this is normal. Are you shaking your head now? Yeah, I just. I just saw it, you know, I was like. But I really believe that God is wanting us to rise up like never before in the body of Christ and live out of our identity in Him. In him, we live and move and have our being in Him. When you know who you are in him, you don't care what other people think about you. I can't be moved. Some people have such strong personalities anyway. They don't care what people think. But some of us, maybe that wasn't raised in an atmosphere where you were just poured into, you know, in confidence and whatever. You know, there's a lot of people that don't have that. I was raised with a dad that told me all the time, you can do anything. Leanne and Then he'd make me step out and do it. He'd make me step out. We'd be shopping somewhere, and dad would see somebody he knows. Oh, my girls need to sing for you right in the mall. And as a little girl, as shy as I was, I'd be like. And I'd just do it, you know, because he believed so much in us and was so proud of us that it just put that, I'm not afraid of you, you know, but if you didn't have that or some type of that. Sometimes we can be insecure and think about, oh, what is everybody going to think about me or this or that? And it's just like, no, no, no, no. You got to kill that stuff. You got to kill it. And the way you kill it is get into the word and get into in him realities. Begin to realize who you are and meditate on it. Speak it, talk it out all the time in order for us in healing school. I mean, because, you know, we had people dying. You have people dying in healing school, Brother Hagin's renowned healing school, and people are dying, and you're like, come to healing school where Jesus is the healer. And if not, K punk. And it's like, no, no, no, no. We gotta figure out what's going on here. And we started digging in deep. We had to. And as we were praying, thank God. God brought this individual across our paths and, oh, he's a preacher out of Arkansas. What was it? El Dorado or something? Arkansas. And boy, did he know who. He studied dad like crazy, but in him, realities was his world. And we got ahold of that and we started talking all the time about, it's in him we live and move and have our being. I'm a believer that lays hands on the sick and I make them well. We got so full of who we were that. And then we pour it into the healing school technicians, and they begin to operate in it. We got so full, people were getting healed all the time. When you know who you are, it's amazing how God is able to show up. He's just looking for somebody. He's just looking for somebody to live out of who they are in Christ. Live the way I've created you to live. That's why Jesus came. One of the reasons is so that you could live a life of victory and from a place of faith and confidence. My identity is in not you. My identity is in Christ. Look at somebody and tell them, I'm in Christ. Hallelujah. We're in Christ. We're in him. Well, that's not the message. So why don't we pray? Let's pray for a moment. Father, we come before you right now. We thank you for the word. We thank you for this ministry. We thank you, Father God, that we're going deeper, we're going further. I thank you, Father, for revelation, Light. Oh my. And the demonstration of your power in this life. I thank you that it's easy for us to operate with you. Oh, Father, how we love you. I know you love us, Father. Oh, you're so good to us, Father. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. And we give you glory in Jesus name. Amen. Glory to God. How many of you are expecting? Amen. Glory, glory, glory. You know, it's kind of fun being here because there's so much teaching that goes on here as well as demonstration that I felt like last night I was a storyteller, you know, and the first thing that comes to my heart right now, I gotta do is tell a story. And it's gonna tie on to what we talked about last night. You know, how many of you can say, you know the spirit of God? Okay, we need a little more than that. John, chapter 14. Remember, it was one scripture I did quote last night. Verse 17, the spirit of truth. The world doesn't see or know, but you know him. And it's in red and white. So that means what Jesus is speaking. So I've got the word on it. Jesus himself is saying, hey, you know the spirit of God. He's living and dwelling on the inside of you. Amen. So we know him. And so in every type of prayer that we pray for, there's at least nine different types of prayer in the Bible. And I'm not going to get into that, but there's nine, at least nine different types. And in every type of prayer that you pray, you always want to pray from the position. I know him. When you know someone, you talk different. When you know someone, you know their characteristics, you know their person, you know them, you know their voice. If my husband called me and I said, who are you? That wouldn't be good. I know his voice. You know the spirit of God. He said, my sheep what hear and know my voice. That's what he said. He didn't ask how you felt. Right? Are we faith people? Yeah, he didn't ask how we felt. He said, my sheep hear. They know my voice. We know his. Why don't you just say that I know his voice. We Know him. So in every type of prayer that you pray, you need to make sure you're always praying from the place and the position. I know you. I know you. I always make sure that I'm praying from the position of faith. In every prayer that I pray, you better believe I'm gonna pray from a place of faith. How many times I would get in a prayer group years and years ago, and I wasn't in charge and I was, you know, I'm learning. So I'd get in there and sometimes it seemed like it'd take an eternity for them to get where they needed to get or go, I should say. And I'd be like, why'd they have to worship five through five songs and then finally step over in. And I thought, maybe something's wrong with me. Maybe I'm supposed to do it that way because, see, I didn't understand that. And then as I begin to grow in the things of God and learn that lesson, you just step over by faith. Remember Brother Hagin telling stories about how that it would take him a long time to step over in the spirit, quite a few hours or so. And then he got it down to so many hours, then to two hours to where he got to the place to where he would just step over. You know, that's the way we're supposed to be living. That's where we're supposed to be living. Now, if you're not in the Word and if you're not fellowshipping with God, you know, you might have to stir yourself up a lot to get your mind renewed and get yourself to that place where you believe you can just step over. But as a believer that has sat under the Word for years and you're still taking a lifetime to step over, or you're feeling like, I don't know, the things of God, then this is all for you. We've must recognize who we are. As we said last night, you are a spirit being. John 4:24 says, God is the Spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth. God's a spirit. Well, then in Genesis chapter one, what does it say about you? You are a spirit. God made you like him, so that means you are a spirit spirit. So to me, that gives us the legal right to operate over in that realm. And what I love is that thank God Jesus came, redeemed us, and he sent the Holy Spirit Spirit. And the Holy Spirit is in the earth and he's living on the inside of us, so why are we not tapping into Him? All the time. I believe you guys are, that we're tapping into him to where, if we're listening, how many of you know, you could be sitting talking to somebody in the world and maybe a banker or something, and they're telling you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're sitting there knowing, just like dad would say, you got in inside information because you've already prepared your heart. You've already spent time with God, and you know, you've got the victory. Just like I knew that $6,000 was coming to me. Are you with me? I remember my husband and I, when we were purchasing the house back there in Broken Arrow in Oklahoma, the house that we were living in, we decided we wanted to purchase it. And the house was tied up into a business that had went bankrupt. And the banker said, we need you guys to go ahead and move. And Jerry and I'd been looking for a place, a house we wanted to buy. And one time we were preaching in a church in Lawton, I believe, Oklahoma. And right before the service, I'm praying for the meeting and the spirit of God said, you're in the house that's yours, or something like that. And I looked at Jerry, I go, did you hear what I just said? He goes, yeah. I said, we're in the house that's ours because we liked it. But they'd said, you gotta move out, and that it was gonna be wrapped up in red tape for a long time because of this business going belly up. And I was like, no, I remember, he and I, we claimed that house. You guys know how to do it. We went around that house, man. I tell you what, you know me, Anointing oil came out. I went through that place. My husband and I, we declared, it's ours. It's ours, it's ours. It's the Sosbee house. It's ours. Went into the banker, well, I don't know why you guys wanted to come and talk, but. Oh, no, let me tell you a sweet part my husband did to me. I'm in the elevator with my husband. We're going up to the president's office in the bank. My husband looks over at me, and I'm looking at him and I said, we got this. He goes, yeah. And he goes, you're the one that's supposed to talk. I really wanted to karate chop him. And I just looked at him and I go, okay, all right, I got it. So we get in there and the banker tells us, I don't really understand why you guys have Come in to want to talk to me, because the house is tied up in red tape. You need to move out. And I said, but, sir, it's our house. We want the house. We want to purchase it. We've got the money, we got it all. We're ready to purchase it. And he's like, there's no way it can happen. And we just kept sitting there smiling, said, well, we just really believe that it's our home. And then he sat back a minute and he goes, you know what? I've driven by that house, and you guys take really good care of that house. And both are like, yeah, we do, because it's our house. Okay, let me see what I can do. And my husband and I were like, it's amazing when you're in faith. And we got it. We got it. We signed the papers. What was it? I don't know how much longer after that it was ours. Living on the victory side. Living on the victory side, where you take hold of things and you're not moved. You're living in the spirit. You're operating in the spirit. You're very much operating in this natural world. And to the world they might live, look at you and think, oh, okay, you're normal. But you know, I'm not like you, baby. I'm living out of heaven on the earth. We got to remind ourselves who we are in him, in Christ. I'm living this life. And in our prayer life, we've got to make sure that we're living from that place of victory. And so I would be praying with a lot of different people when I was learning and growing, and I'd wonder sometimes, why does it take them so long to step over? And the more. Cause, see, when I was a student, I'm only 18 years old, and Brother Hagin would talk about the stories of prayer when he would step over, and I was like, well, why aren't they doing what he says? You know, sometimes you can be right in a ministry, listening to the Word all the time. You've got a minister of God, a prayer prophet of the Lord up there speaking, and you're not getting it. That's why those Ephesian prayers are mighty good. God, I thank you that you're opening the eyes of my understanding that I see and I know what the hope of my calling is. Oh, God, that I walk in the intimate knowledge of you in every area of my life. Oh, Father, that all blinders are off that I'm seeing. But you know, in order to do that, you gotta Pray it. In order to do that, you've gotta also spend some time in the spirit, praying in the Holy Ghost. You know, dad used to say, praying in the Holy Ghost is the vehicle into the spirit, into the supernatural. We've heard that. We've heard that. But yet we'll do it. And then we'll wonder why I'm not getting anything. I never begin to pray in the spirit from the position. I don't know. I used to tell the vocal line that worked with me in the band. Tony will say yes to this. I used to tell them in the prayer school, if I ever turn to you and say, you've got it, don't say no. You step out by faith. You might say, well, Leigh Ann, you cocky don't agree with that. That I learned a long time ago. If a leader calls on me, they've got a knowing on the inside. Then I'm going to step out by faith. And so I raise the teams up every year. You step out by faith, you know, the spirit of God, you go for it. There'd be times I'd turn and I'd look at whoever was on the keyboard, play something, and they'd just start playing. And sometimes they'd be like, in fear and trembling. But you would see it come upon them when they finally step over. God wants us to step over and live from that place. So when I'm praying about something, I don't ever pray from a place of I don't know. I learned that a long time ago. I do know. You know why I know and why you know. First John 2:20. You want you to say it with me. I've got an unction from the Holy One and I know all things. Man, you're smart. The Holy Spirit's on the inside of you. You might not know up here, but right here, you know why? Because he's right there in the core of your being.
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Out of your belly, flood what flows.
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Rivers of living water.
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He's on the inside of you.
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And so we need to pray from a place of faith, believing I've got it. So not only have I learned that when I'm called upon in a service, that I just do it by faith. And it doesn't mean I'm coming up and going, no. My soul is usually going, oh, dear God, what am I gonna do? But I tap into Holy Ghost and know you, because I know you. I got it. But I do the same thing when I'm praying by myself or when I'm praying with others. I step right in by faith. And there are times that, well, you know, I heard an individual say this and it just rubbed me wrong. Oh, sometimes you just have dull prayer times. Sometimes it can be really dull. And I sit there going, mmm, mmm. I'm not taking that one. I'm not taking hold of that. No, it is what you put into it. Now. There are times when your flesh is tired, you're weary a little bit, haven't had much sleep, and you start praying and you go, that's one thing. But even at that, I will grab myself and go, oh, no, I'm talking to God. And he's more real to me than anybody I can see in the natural. I believe in that walk and relationship with him. So I'm going to pray from a place of confidence. He's listening and I hear him. And when I pray in an unknown tongue. Yeah, a lot of times I don't know what I'm praying about. But I found as I've. As I've grown and I'm continuing to grow in the Lord, you'll never stop growing, thank God that I'm getting to where a lot of times I flat know what I'm saying in tongues most the of the time, and then sometimes I don't. And I'm really glad probably at those times that I don't, because I don't need to know, you know, what you don't know, you're not responsible for. Are you with me? But how many of you know that the more that you keep praying in the spirit and I'm not just talking, praying in tongues, you know, no taking time and engaging your heart and spending time with him, praying in the Holy Ghost. When was the last time that any of us said Holy Ghost? Whatever you want me to pray about right now, whatever you deem the most important thing to pray about on the planet right now, here I am. And then step over by faith. Now, let's think about it. When was the last time I did that? Do I put me first all the time? Do I put my church first all the time? Am I putting my marriage first? Am I always putting everything, a situation or whatever before? It's amazing what you sow to you reap from there. On campus, somebody, one of Jim's friends came and he always prayed with him all the time. And he came over and he'd always come to my office and talk with. With me too. And he said, leanne, this might sound strange. He said, when was the last time you prayed for you? I go, huh? He goes, I just Have a knowing. You know, it's very noble what you do, praying for everybody else and doing all that you're doing here on the campus. But when was the last time you prayed for you? And I literally, when he walked out of the office, was like, But everything's okay in my world. I'm living comfortable. I'm living life in God. I'm not having any issues. I believe it's because what I'd sowed to, I'd reaped from. You know, when people are praying for you, too, how many have ever sensed that? I love it. But I realized. I took what he said because I realized I needed to get after some things and start praying out some things more further down the road for my future. But when he told me that, I had to look at it and go, oh, you know, you have 500 people praying in the prayer program. You got all these schools all over the world. You know, you've got all these things that you're praying about on the campus for all the other campuses. And, you know, you're praying out last day events in prayer school. You're going after stuff, you're teaching, you're praying, you're prophesying, doing what God's called you to do. And then it was like, whoa, wait a minute. Yeah, I guess I should be praying out my future. There's something about praying in the Holy Ghost when you do it in faith. God, what do you want me to pray about right now? I just challenge you to do that sometime soon. What do you want me to pray about today? And I'll tell you, you'll be shocked where he'll take you. Oh, yeah, there's been times I've been in prayer and Holy Ghost, what do you want me to pray about? You're like, don't you have things you need to pray about? Yep, but I'm gonna put him first. And then as I put him first, he's taken me in places that, I mean, other countries. I've been in the White House. I've been in places that was like, oh, my goodness. And then later, one of my prayer buddies that I prayed with all the time, she would say, leanne, have you watched the news? I go, no. What's going on? Everything we prayed about. I go, oh, it's amazing what happens. This is the story that God wanted me to tell you real quick. I was praying with Deborah Banks. She's here in the house somewhere. Deborah, where are you? Oh, there he is. She and I used to pray at times. She would play the piano or the organ. And we would just. And I would stand there and just pray and she would pray, but she would pray on the instrument as well. And sometimes so often prophesy on that instrument while we would be in prayer. And I'll never forget it. We were in the prayer school room and we would meet in the evening and pray and kind of spooky, pretty big building, you know, 10 o' clock at night in there praying and. But we would just have some wonderful times. And I'll never forget, as we were praying one evening, I saw over into the realm of the spirit and I saw this gigantic door. It was huge, it was ornate looking. It was a wood huge door. I mean, it's bigger than this building. It was that big is how I saw it. And I told Deborah, I go, there's a door. So again, as prayers, what do you do? You pray to get the door open? We'd say open, it wouldn't open. And we're just praying in the Holy Ghost. She's playing the instrument. And then all of a sudden I started seeing a bunch of angels and I thought, oh, they're going to get the door open as we speak. Didn't open it. Well, it bothered us. And so at that time, Kathy Creek was over the prayer program at Rhema. And so we went into her office and we said, we got to talk to you about something. We told her what was happening. She goes, huh? She goes, you know what? Angela Keaton, some of you know who she is. Angela Keaton is coming for winter Bible seminar and she's been praying out some things over there in the spirit. And this just makes me think of her. Why don't when she gets here, we'll all go pray. So next week we're all back in the prayer school room. It was in the evening and I'd made the decision because, see, I'm still learning and I don't want to be a fruit loop. I don't want to be flaky. Maybe I'm seeing this wrong. And so I didn't tell her what I was seeing. So Deborah's back to playing the instrument again and Kathy's in there, Angela Keaton is there. And. Well, actually it was Kathy came and prayed with us one time and then Angela came the second time when Kathy came in and she started praying. She goes, well, there's another continent, there's a country, there's something over on the other side of that door. When she said that, I just knew a lot of it had to do with Asia. Just knew it. Spirit of knowing. Following week, couldn't get the door open. But the following week, Angela's there. Once again, I'm not telling nobody nothing. I was sitting on the organ bench and Angela was standing on the other side of the organ. Deborah's playing the piano and Kathy's on that side of the piano. And don't you love all the details? And so we're praying, and all of a sudden Angela said, whoa, that's a big door. I go, you see a door? She goes, yes. I said, what's it look like? She goes, it's big. It's a wood door. It's gigantic, it's large. And I go, does it have a lot of wood engravings, like, on it? She goes, yeah. I go, mm, that's where we've been trying to get that door open. And she goes, well, let's do it. So we started praying again. As we're praying in the spirit, all of a sudden that door began to open and the angels, there were so many. They were carrying things. And I remember wondering, what is it that they've got? But then we begin to shout, go, go, go. And I left a part out. We were praying for a particular ministry, Deborah and I were when we started this prayer time. So we knew we were still praying for that couple because their ministry was growing and it had something to do with Asia. So we started praying, angels go, angels go, angels go. And I'm telling you what, when that door opened wide, those angels just, foom, foom, foom. And they went in. And then we started rejoicing, telling the truth, right, Deborah? We started rejoicing and shouting, thanking God we got it. We knew we got it. We got it prayed through. And boy, was I glad we got it prayed through, because we'd been carrying it for some time. The following week, a friend of mine called me. He used to work for that couple back then. And I had told him in prayer time, he said, leanne, what are you doing? I said, I'm driving home. He said, pull over. I go, I don't want to pull over. Just tell me what you want to tell me. He said, no, you must pull over. Bossy God kind of puts me with bossy people. I'm shifting, I'm shifting. And so I pulled over. I was obedient. And he said, leanne, we were just in a meeting with that couple. And so. And so is a prophet of the Lord. Many of you would know who he was, was up speaking, and that couple was sitting on the front row with all Their team. And he said, the man that was speaking came down off the platform, went straight to the couple and said, whoa, a great door has been made open to you in the Orient. I go. He said, what? He said, that's not all. He went on to say, you have a natural team that goes with you, but there's a team of angels that have already went in with equipment, and they're waiting on you to come. Well, now you could imagine. I'm glad I pulled over, because now I'm crying because it's like, oh, God.
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I'm learning, I'm growing. Oh, God.
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But, guys, God will take us on journeys in prayer to help whomever we're praying for, but it will train us, you, the individual, to go further, to go deeper. I could tell you story after story of different things that God made sure that it got back to me to teach me and train me in. Because the realm of the spirit is a real place, and that realm is for us to operate in, and to operate in it in faith, living on the victory side, no matter what we're walking through, no matter what praying about, I step over by faith and I act like I know what I'm doing because the spirit of God is on the inside of me. Even if I don't feel like I know, I'm gonna act like I know. You might say, well, that sounds cocky. Well, the last time I looked in.
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The Good Book, it says, you have an unction.
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The spirit of God lives on the inside of you.
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To him, operate with him. I'm not just Leanne.
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I am Leanne that has the spirit of the living God living on the inside of me. I can step out on the water. I can operate with him. I can hear him, see him, know.
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Him, flow with him. And I believe God is wanting the.
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Body of Christ to operate from such a place of victory, such a place of knowing that we just do it.
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Not going to be moved. So when we pray, I want to pray from the place I know you. You might say, well, have you missed it? Sure, because you're human. But why are you so caught up in yourself that you can't get over yourself? We're all growing. There'd be times in prayer school, it would be psalms, hymns, and spiritual song day. God would have that happen often. And the band would start playing, and then I'd just start singing. And then I'd say, okay. And then I'd start going down the line, and everybody on the team had to sing. And it Would be so much fun. And then we'd open it. Anybody that wants to come up, here's the microphone. And some people would say, well, weren't you afraid they were going to get off? I know I'm there. I'll take it back. I'm miked. I'm not gonna make them feel goofy if they get off. But there were a time or two, okay, maybe a few times that I just have to go, well, yeah, glory to God.
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Glory to God. Let's all lift our hands and thank God for his goodness.
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And then that person would walk away and then I'd step back over into what we were doing and I'd sing again. Get that flow going back again. I didn't stop everything. I passed the mic again. You can't let somebody that's growing and learning mess up what's happening or make them feel stupid, right? I can't tell you how many times individuals that would kind of mess the flow up or something, they come to me afterwards, oh, Miss Leanne, I missed was horrible. I apologize. And do you think I karate chopped even though I know I sound like I'm. No, I'd go, oh, man, we all have missed it. This is how you learn. Aren't you happy you're learning right here with 300 people versus thousands, We're all growing, but God wants us to live the way we're supposed to live, where our identity is in him. From a place of faith and victory, from a place knowing I've got it. I love what Pastor Nancy said the other night, how she said, she goes, I'll put it in my words. She can correct it later. But she didn't buzz me. But how she said, you know, I don't have a problem having other people get up and speak. She knows who she is. She knows she's all that. She didn't buzz that you notice.
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Because when you know who you are in Christ, when you know who you are in Christ and you know you're on kingdom business and you know you've got a God given ordained destiny to fulfill, there's nobody that can do the supply that God's called you to do. So I'm not going to feel inferior. If you get up and flow in the spirit, if you get up and preach and pray and prophesy and heaven comes down, it is not going to bother me. It's going to make me jump up and go, yes.
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It gets me when people can handle it. That's why I love dad so much. He'd have so many different people get up and speak. He'd have so many people get up and share, and he'd tell us if the anointing is on it, just keep going. He didn't have to get up and do it. We got to be secure in who we are, in him, our identity, in Him, Him. And then our prayer life needs to be fellowship, spending time with him, engaging him from a place of faith. I know you because I know you. I know what to do because I know you. I can step out on that water. I can do that. Yeah. I can get up and speak. I can get up and pray. I can get up and do whatever you tell me to do because I know you. You're more real to me than anything else in life. You're my world. You're my life. You're it. You're the reason and the purpose of my existence. I used to tell that to the students all the time there. You're the reason for my existence. Distance. I'm so thankful that I was raised in a Pentecostal home where my mother lived a consecrated life all the time. And she would always be consecrating. Oh, God, your will, not my will, be done. Oh, God, whatever you want us to do, we'll do it as a family. Oh, God, we love you. And then my Pentecostal mama, with her beehive hairdo, her head would go back and she would pray in the Holy Ghost. And us kids always felt safe. And all of us, all five kids, caught the spirit of prayer from Mama. My niece was on a ministry plane with these ministers with my sister, and the plane, everything shut down, and the plane started going down. My sister told me that my niece Michaela, at that time was 12 years old, and she just began to go in the name of Jesus and started praying like a house of fire on that plane. Now, the minister that was on the plane, you know, he was already in a place of faith, and he just was like, come back up. You know, he just was in faith and just spoke. And the plane came right back up. Lights, everything came back on. They got over to the other side, and the pastor, the minister's wife, said to my sister Marla, I've never seen a child do that. Never seen a child do that. But see, what your kids are around is what's going to come out in pressured times. That's why you want to make sure you're showing your children your prayer life, your relationship with God, because when you do, they're going to catch it. How many times I would sing that hear my mom sing that old song, Shut in with God. Shut in with God In a secret place there in his presence Beholding his face, gaining new power to run this race. I love to be shut in with God. I heard that as a little girl. And she'd sing it. They'd call on her all the time to sing it. There's nothing like being shut in with God. He's our security, he's our life, he's our song, our victory, our peace. And my identity is in him. Not what Mama said, what Daddy did, the lack of what they did. My identity is in him. And then when I go after things in prayer, I do it by faith, and I put my own personality into it. Does anybody like to talk to anybody that speaks to monotone? There was a teacher there on campus that he was real monotone. And when I was a first year rhema student, I thought, oh, my goodness, I have notes to prove that. I started off good, but then all of a sudden it would go down in my writing because it was just. It was so soothing. I just. And thank God for Patsy again. I'm in prayer school, and Patsy Camonetti, she said, she goes, when you're in your classroom, you need to be praying in the spirit on the inside, sitting on the edge of your seat, get everything that those instructors have. And I thought, I know where I need to do that. And I sat there. I'll never forget the first time I did it. I sat there in his class and I was determined. I'm getting it. You could look at me, but you couldn't see. I was praying in tongues. I'm doing it on the inside, praying. Father, I thank you. I'm getting everything that I'm supposed to get from him. Thank you, Father. Thank you. And, you know, it wasn't long to where all of a sudden, I'm taking hold. I'm not sleeping anymore. I'm getting it, I'm receiving it. And he said something. And back then, I was real shy. And he said something, and without even thinking I was gonna say amen, but it came out in tongues. So everybody around me kind of. And this shy girl was like, oh, my God. But I started getting so much revelation from it. But you don't like to talk to someone. That is just so boring. That. And have you ever talked to somebody that they don't read body language? Yeah. You've picked up your Bible, you've picked up your purse.
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You've done everything you know to do.
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You've even taken a step back. And they just keep moving in. I'll show you a trick. If you don't know it, I'll show you a trick. I had to learn this. And so they've moved into my territory again, and I'm wanting to get away. I'd hold my Bible out, and they just keep talking. And you might think that's crazy, but guess what? It helped me. And then thank God for ushers. Ms. Leanne, I think your appointment is waiting for you. I was like, yes, I believe so. Thank you. God bless you. God bless you. And my appointment was with me and Jesus in my office. You need to put your personality into your prayer time. You need to be speaking to him like you mean it. Now, I know I make fun and play around with Pastor Nancy quite a bit, but she's holding her iPad out. She's ornery. I don't care what anybody says. I'm stopping. But I just want to say this. What did I want to say? Oh, that when she began to get in touch with me and talk with me, it was like, Nancy Dufrey just called me.
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What did she want?
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I gave full attention. I don't care if my husband was telling me how beautiful I was and how much he loved me. Nancy. That's right. So, you know, you give attention to who you want to give attention to. We'll do it with a person that we highly respect and love and honor. How much more should we be doing it for him? So that when he's speaking or when he's talking to us, he's got our attention. And then when he's got our attention, I'm gonna give him my best. Not so. Not some boring doll. I'm not saying you can't be yourself, but the real you should be joyful, free, walking in victory, living in the spirit. Are we Bible believers? So we need to be praying from that place of faith and engaging him, putting our heart into it. So I had it in my heart. I'm done. I promise. But I want to pray a little bit. Can we just pray for about five minutes or more? And you know what? I want to pray for this ministry. Ministry. I want us to pray for this place, and maybe it will help redeem me. Praise the Lord. But I want us to engage his presence, and I want us to step over by faith. Don't pray from. I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing. What are they doing? I don't know what I'm doing. Just go. I know what I'm doing. Because the Spirit of God's in me. I know how to pray because he's on the inside of me, you know, I went and talked to Brother Hagin one time. Him and mom were waiting on me in the office, and we talked about a few different things. And I looked at him and I go, you know, it's Brother Hagin. You know what's become such light and revelation to me? He goes, what? I go to John, chapter 14, verse 17. He goes, Hmm. I go, you know where it says, the spirit of truth world doesn't see or know, but you know him. I said, dad, I'm so convinced that I know the Spirit of God, that if you told me I didn't, I'd tell you I do. He looked at me and he goes, checked me out. And he just started laughing a little. He goes, yep, that's right. Yeah.
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Because I was determined to live from that place. I know you. I know you Holy Ghost, intimately because you're in me. Nobody else might not know who I am, but you know me and I know you. And so let's pray from this place of faith, and let's just see what the Spirit of God would have us pray concerning the defraying ministry. Is that okay with you guys? Remember, what you sow to is what you reap from. So if you engage your heart and put your heart into it, that's what you're going to reap. Glory to God. You want to say, but I have needs. I've got stuff. I need Pastor Nancy to lay hands on me. Guys, step out by faith, and you'll see how the things that you need will fall right into place. We're here on Kingdom business. Amen. Hallelujah. You're going to play for me. Hallelujah. Well, Father, we just come before you right now. You can stand up, walk around, do whatever you want, but keep yourself engaged. Father, we just thank you for your plan and your purpose. We thank you, Father, that this ministry has been ordained by you, that you set it up many years ago, way.
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Back, far, far ago, Lord.
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It was in your heart. And, Father, we're so thankful. Thankful that you brought Dr. Ed Dufresne on this planet. We thank you for the mandate that you placed upon him.
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The word, the faith, the walk of the Spirit. We thank you, Father, that it's continuing.
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On, that Pastor Nancy by his side was being trained for fulfilling that which you've called her to do. And now she's in the forefront.
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Running, doing what you've ordained to be done.
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We thank you Father. For her family that they're running the.
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Race together doing what you've called them to do.
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Direction, direction.
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Oh, and the interpretation of your spirit. Oh God upon everything that we see, that we know. Oh, the multitudes of people that are.
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Learning that are growing.
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The revelation of your spirit. The boldness. The boldness of your spirit that is.
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Upon her and the family.
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Mangres day manga deli brizi dala mana da da Ha. Yes. You seen the right estesi the beza basel doso Bravadite. Direction, direction. Additions, additions, additions. Adding on, adding on, adding on. Clarity, understanding. Strong in the Lord, Strong in the Lord Strong in the Lord in the power of your mind. And the voice, the voice, the voice, the voice, the voice.
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Voice.
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The voice, the voice. And the utterance by the spirit that comes forth up from on high. Deep has gone too deep. Deep calls too deep. Deep calls too deep. Oh.
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Direction, direction, direction Clarity In Jesus name so clear. Oh yeah yeah. So graced. My, my. But angels. But angels. But angels. Angels. The equipping angels eyes wow. Mini marador all over the place. Angels minds are very greedy.
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What is it?
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What are you gonna do us today?
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What is it that you're gonna to do?
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Is supply red to doors that see the way.
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From the north, the south, the east and the west.
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The fulfillment of God's plan. It's time.
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Angels go. Angels go. Angels go.
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Angels in your right foot place. Huh? Huh? Angels I see so many. See by the radio door. See it right there ready to and the glory. Blaspharos de galande.
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And the operation. The operation of the spirit is known. Operating in the spirit.
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Oh wow.
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Angels go.
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There's a standing out of at attention in the spirit. Ha.
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Oh yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah yeah yeah.
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On the name it's a coin. It's according. It's according to God's spirit. Things. Things in order and things that are now on display. Direction, clarity. But additions. I don't know what that is, but I hear him say additions.
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So get ready, get ready. Get ready, get ready, get ready. The time is at hand. The moving of his spirit.
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It's grand. And we know. We know. Oh, how easy it is. Father. Father. I counted an honor and a privilege to pray for her for this ministry for the family. Each one. Pastor Grant for Stephen, for Morgan, for the grandchildren, for Pastor Nancy for her staff. Ha.
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Demonstration demonstrations of the Spirit.
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We know how and it's coming to pass. Yes, it has been. But more is unfolding as we make a commitment. Father before you to pray. Father I thank you that you're speaking to every heart in this place to pick up that baton and begin to pray like never before for this ministry. It's been running its race, but now an increase of prayer must be because new territory is being taken and the enemy has to flee. He has no authority, no dominion, no power in this race. In America, in overseas, God's plan is taking place, and we count it in honor, Father, to pray for your plans unfolding in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Amen. Well, glory to God. If you love the Lord, shout Amen. Hallelujah. Glory to God. It's yours.
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We need the help of the Holy Spirit to pray fully and to pray accurately. Amen. I'm not sure that everyone in here has been filled with the Holy Ghost, with the evidence of speaking in tongues. We don't want to assume or presume that. So if that's you this morning, and you say, you know, when Pastor Leanne, when she was. When she was praying in the spirit, singing in the Spirit, I couldn't really do that. Well, that belongs to you. That's. Jesus is the gift that belongs to the whole world, but the Holy Ghost is the gift that belongs to the church. And so we don't want to assume or presume that you've received that gift, but you can today. Amen. So I'm going to ask if you say, pastor Nancy, I'm born again, but I've never been filled with the Holy Ghost, with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. I want you to know he's a deeper dimension of what belongs to you. Amen. So if that's you, we don't want to assume or presume. Raise your hand, let us know, because we don't want you leaving this building without the fullness of what belongs to you. Anybody at all, raise your hand, Let us know. Over here. Come up here, would you? Come up here and let us pray with you. Love. Come up here. Anybody else? Come and join them. Hallelujah. Anybody else in this place that you say, I want to receive all God has for me. Come on up here. Hallelujah. Anybody else? Come up here if that's you, because there's so much more God has for you. Welcome this morning. Just turn around and face me if you would, love. Welcome. We're so glad you're here. Hallelujah. Come up here. You're with her.
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She brought you well. Thank you. Thank you for bringing her. We're so glad you came. Where do you live? Newport Beach. So you. You were able to Drive in here? Yeah. Okay. Oh, good. And so you picked her up on the way here. We're so glad you're here. Good morning. How are you, love? We're so glad you're here. Anybody else want to join us this morning, as we were just sitting in the service early on, that was. Was just in my heart for y'. All. And so, congregation, why don't you stand back up to your feet, if you would. How many of you remember the day that you received the infilling of the Holy Ghost? The two of y' all are born again. You're born again. You're born again. Well, there's more God has for you. Amen. And so Jesus said that when the Holy Ghost has come upon you, you shall receive power. Amen. And so you'll notice after today, and we minister and you're filled with the Holy Ghost, you will notice a great increase in the desire of your hunger for the Word. You will sense such a great hunger. And if I could say this, yield to that. Give much time to feeding on the Word, because the Holy Ghost works with the Word and he will unfold the Word to you. But the divine help that he is in so many ways, I'm going to lay hands on you, and you're going to sense the Holy Ghost come upon you, and evidence that he is filling you will have to show up. And the way it shows up, that you begin to speak in other tongues. Amen. And you don't have to try at all, but you do have to do this. You do have to open your mouth and just speak out the word God of that come up from your spirit. And know this. Now, pastors, pay attention to how I'm instructing, because there's a lot of times pastors and pastors lay hands on people, but they don't give proper instruction, and the people don't know how to respond. So take this as a lesson. If you. If you need instruction in this. The words that are going to come up are going to come up from your spirit. They're not going to come to your mind. And people will stand here many times in a. In a line like that, this. And they'll wait for words to come to their mind. They don't. They come up from your spirit and your tongue will seem to want to say something. Move your. Open your mouth, move that tongue and just speak out those words that come up from here. Don't wait for them to strike your mind. They don't arrive there. God makes us effective and helps us to be Effective by bypassing our minds when it comes to speaking in other tongues. Amen. So I'm going to lay hands on you. The infilling is going to happen. And you just open your mouth and just start. Don't wait for something to come to the mind. Okay. Congregation, reach out your hands toward these people. Father, we thank you. Just raise your hands right here and just say, father, when hands are laid on me, I'll receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit as evidence that I'm filled. It'll overflow through speaking in tongues. So I speak now because I receive now. Receive. Receive the Holy Ghost. Don't speak English. Just speak in. Just speak out those words that are on the tip of your tongue. Just speak them out. Yep, yep. There you go. Just speak that out. Yeah, just speak that out. There you go. Just speak it out. Because he doesn't move our mouth for us, does he? As we give. As we give expression to those words, they. They come up from within. We are the bokoko. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you. Thank you for fullness. Not even trying. Just. Just speaking it out. Not even trying. Hallelujah. Thank God for the Holy Ghost, our divine helper. Amen. I'm going to ask Dean Graves and Ms. Jeanine if they would come up here. We're going to. We got some just material, some teaching we want to put in your hands, and they're just going to further minister to you because you're not going to leave out of here without the fullness of what you came and God brought you here to receive more. Amen. And it's no struggle. It's no trying. It's just receiving and responding. Amen. Give them a great big God bless you. You're just going to follow this couple right here. Give them a great big God bless you as they go. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Well, the Lord is good. That was good, Ms. Leanne.
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Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Stepping Into The Spirit By Faith | Leigh Ann Soesbee | Prayer Conference 2025 | Thursday AM
Date: April 18, 2025
Speaker: Leigh Ann Soesbee (Guest Minister); Host: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
This episode explores what it means to “step into the Spirit by faith” in the life of a believer. Leigh Ann Soesbee, a seasoned teacher on prayer, testifies about living from a place of victory and spiritual intimacy—regardless of external circumstances. Through personal stories, biblical teaching, and practical insights, she encourages the audience to draw boldly from their identity in Christ and from the indwelling Holy Spirit, especially in prayer.
Walking and Praying from Victory:
“When you’re living in victory, you’re laughing… I’m sure Dad [Hagin] didn’t feel like laughing right away.” (03:33, Leigh Ann Soesbee)
Leigh Ann shares a candid account of facing a $6,000 debt at age 19 and feeling overwhelmed by her mistake.
She describes how praying in the spirit and choosing to “laugh by faith” shifted her perspective from despair to victory.
The turning point: After earnest prayer and laughter, God miraculously provided the exact $6,000 through a phone call the next morning.
“I made a mistake. But God’s mercy endures forever… now I’m back seated where I’m supposed to be, and I’m laughing.” (09:00, Leigh Ann Soesbee)
“Some people stop too quick and think, oh, I got it. But I knew I was finally at a place of, I’m now on top. I’m seated with him.” (09:35)
Leigh Ann honors Pastor Nancy and reflects on the importance of supporting ministries through prayer—not just occasional prayers but sustained spiritual support.
Carrying a ministry in prayer is depicted as both a privilege and a responsibility.
“The ministry that God hooks you to is a ministry that you should be carrying in prayer...what you sow to is what you reap from.” (16:23)
Importance of serving “on Kingdom business,” with humility and focus on God’s will, not personal platform or recognition.
“I just want to be in the will of God because He’s my heart. Isn’t He your heart?” (18:13)
True security and identity come from “in Him” realities—knowing who you are in Christ rather than seeking approval or opportunity.
Personal upbringing and stories illustrate how embracing biblical identity frees believers from insecurity and enables spiritual growth.
“My identity is in Christ...What does He say? What does He desire?” (20:55)
Believers are taught to pray from the position of already knowing the Holy Spirit, not from uncertainty.
Referencing John 14:17 (“you know Him”), Leigh Ann reinforces praying in faith, not waiting for emotions or outward signals.
“In every type of prayer that you pray, you need to make sure you’re always praying from the place and the position, I know you.” (25:45)
“Brother Hagin used to say, praying in the Holy Ghost is the vehicle into the spirit, into the supernatural…step over by faith.” (32:01)
Stepping “over by faith” becomes easier the more one practices fellowship with God and acts on spiritual truth.
Recounts of God’s supernatural guidance and answered prayers in personal needs (housing), ministry, and even prophetic direction for others.
The practice of praying “for whatever God deems most important” rather than defaulting to personal or local needs expands spiritual horizons.
“When was the last time…you said, Holy Ghost, whatever you want me to pray about right now, here I am. And then step over by faith.” (41:23)
Leigh Ann shares a story of praying with others about a “giant door” in the spirit, representing breakthrough for a ministry in Asia.
Unity, persistence, and sensitivity to the Spirit led to a confirming prophecy and breakthrough.
“God will take us on journeys in prayer to help whomever we’re praying for, but it will train us…to go further, to go deeper.” (51:44)
Encourages taking risks, stepping out by faith, and learning through missed steps.
Cites 1 John 2:20: “You have an unction from the Holy One and you know all things”—therefore, act with confidence in prayer and ministry.
“Even if I don’t feel like I know, I’m gonna act like I know.” (53:03)
Stories of her Pentecostal upbringing underline how a lifestyle of prayer, faith, and victory can be imparted to the next generation.
Real-life example: Her niece, just 12, prays powerfully in an emergency due to what she’d learned by example.
“What your kids are around is what’s going to come out in pressured times…be sure you show your children your prayer life.” (60:33)
On Prayer & Victory:
“The devil kept saying, why you laughing for? Why you laughing for? And Dad [Hagin] just told him, I’m laughing at you, you laughing at me for.” (05:38)
On Identity:
"My identity is not wrapped up into what people think—our identity should be so in Him...our security and completeness should be in Him." (20:30)
On Stepping Over into the Spirit:
“As a believer that has sat under the Word for years, and you’re still taking a lifetime to step over…this is for you. Recognize who you are; you are a spirit being.” (28:10)
On Being Led by the Spirit:
“Why are you so caught up in yourself that you can’t get over yourself? We’re all growing.” (53:27)
On Impartation to the Next Generation:
“What your kids are around is what’s going to come out in pressured times. That’s why you want to make sure you’re showing your children your prayer life.” (60:33)
| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-------------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 00:16–01:20 | Introductions; Living in the victory side | | 04:20–12:15 | Leigh Ann’s $6,000 testimony; victory in prayer | | 16:23–19:56 | Honoring ministries; the call to pray for leaders | | 25:10–28:10 | Praying from the position “I know Him” (John 14:17) | | 32:01 | “Praying in the Holy Ghost is the vehicle into the supernatural” – practice of stepping over by faith | | 41:23 | Challenge to pray for whatever God deems important | | 47:00–53:00 | The “giant door” vision and confirmation through prophecy | | 58:00–63:00 | Legacy of prayer; impartation to future generations | | 68:11–79:20 | Corporate prayer for Dufresne Ministries |
(68:11–79:20):
“Now an increase of prayer must be [made], because new territory is being taken and the enemy has to flee.” (78:17)
The episode concludes with an altar call for the baptism in the Holy Spirit, further instruction for the congregation, and a charge to continue seeking and yielding to God’s Spirit in prayer.
In summary:
Leigh Ann Soesbee’s message is a vibrant, faith-filled call to live continually from a position of victory in Christ, to let boldness arise in prayer, and to honor the ministries that feed us by undergirding them with heartfelt intercession. Her personal stories and practical teachings make the subject accessible to believers at every stage, and the podcast’s lively tone reflects both humor and deep spiritual sincerity.