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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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Mighty, mighty, mighty God. Oh, Jesus, we thank you. We praise you this morning. You're the great savior. You're the great healer. You're the great deliverer. Hallelujah. Can you say his name, friends? Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. Amen. Name above all names. Glory to God. Hallelujah. Praise him. Praise him. Praise him. Praise God. I want to do this this morning because when I drove on the campus this morning, I just sensed. I just sensed his healing and his deliverance. And I know that that shouldn't be a surprise at a miracle crusade, and it's going to be here all week, for that matter. But as we were just singing that, standing there, I couldn't get the sense of deliverance out of my spirit. And I want to invite, if you need. Not just. Not just what we call physical healing, you know, but deliverance from influence, that's demonic. If you. If you're dealing with something like. Like an addiction, something that's got you bound. You see what I'm saying? Something that's got you bound. I don't mean you ate too much last night, you know what I mean? And you regret that. I'm talking about something beyond your control. God uses me along this area, and I want to invite you. If that's you, then be bold. I'm not going to ask you any details about anything, but be bold to come. Follow the ushers. And you know they were singing that song, Romans 10:13 says, for whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Now, that word saved, the best translation for the word sozo is delivered. Whoever shall call. Whoever shall call. We're calling in the sense of making a demand on that today. If you come and. Come on. This isn't the only thing we'll do this morning. But this is important. Whoever shall call. Listen to me. Shall be delivered. Whoever shall call, shall be delivered. Can y'. All. Can you put that in your mouth? Come, come, Amy, because you're gonna help me. Whoever shall call shall be delivered. Thank you. Go ahead. Hallelujah. I want you to put your hands out. Everybody put your hands out. We're gonna take that and be. Whoa. Delivered, delivered, delivered, Delivered. Something happens when. Delivered. Something that comes. You got something else? You got something else to mention? Bring you up right now, so just get your Bible. When I call, we call. We call. We call. When I call, we call, we call. When I call. Call you Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Are you thankful, friends, for the anointing? Amen. What did. What did that verse say? Whoever shall call shall be, shall be. So if you were ministered to, and even if you weren't ministered to, why don't you just say it? I've been delivered. I've been delivered. We can have that pulpit back. You can be seated, everybody. Welcome to the Monday, Tuesday, Tuesday edition. Tuesday Morning Miracles in the Morning. We are thrilled to be here with you today. Isn't God good? Hallelujah. Hope you've been enjoying these meetings. I sure have. I mean, the evenings have been so rich, so precious. And God's helping us in the mornings, too. Amen. And, you know, when my wife and I go to meetings, there's some things we routinely say. We'll say, I'm getting all I came for. We'll sometimes be in the car driving and saying, we'll get all we came for. Another thing we do, you know, if we're going to even attending other meetings, we'll say this. We'll say, all that should happen shall happen. Because we're not just interested in things for us. We're interested in the plan of God. That for how many know, friends, that there's needs represented in every row, in every aisle. And God's interested in those needs. He's got the answer. Matter of fact, it's already been paid for and provided. Amen. He wants to get help to us. Amen. What is the Holy Spirit called? He's our helper. He's our helper. So he wants to get his help to us. Praise the Lord. Well, speaking of help, I have a helper. His name's the Holy Spirit. But I also have a helper, my wife, and she's more than a helper. I'm going to have her come, start us off, kick us off this morning, and then we'll see where we go. Praise the Lord. They were clapping for me leaving.
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That's praise the Lord. Well, is this working? There. There you are. Praise the Lord. Well, as my husband just said, it's been amazing to be here. We count it. Such a privilege and an honor to be a part of these meetings. I certainly feel more comfortable on the front row being a cheerleader for whoever else is up here ministering. But we obey the spirit of God when he deals with us to minister. And if there's a subject I would say I love to minister on, it's this subject of prayer. Because this is for the whole body. This is all our part, right we all have a part in the plan of God, and part of that part is our prayer life. And so it's important that we come together. It's important that we take time to hear about prayer, to hear teaching on the subject of prayer. It's also important that we come together and pray together. I can't tell you the amount I gleaned from different people throughout my life as a Christian in prayer groups where I learned from others who were more skillful than myself simply because they had gone further and they had been not just around longer, but they had gone further in the things of God, and they were more skillful in the area of prayer than I was. And just being with them and lifting up my voice in prayer with them helped me learn how to navigate the flow of the Spirit. And so we want these times together is so important to learn from one another. Not that one person knows all, because no one knows all, right? For eternity, we are gonna be learning about the Lord. We're gonna learning about his goodness and his mercy. And just when you think you've got it down, he's gonna unfold something else and you're gonna say, whoa, that's amazing. So no one knows it all, but as we come together as a body, we can accomplish some things. Amen. Amen. So yesterday we looked in James chapter five. Let's just springboard there. And this should be a familiar verse to anyone who has dedicated some time to prayer, has dedicated their life to praying things out in the spirit. Praise the Lord. James chapter five is now lost in my Bible. There you are. And verse 16 says, Confess your faults one to another and pray for one another that you may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. Now, if you're in this place today and you're born again, you've been made righteous. Glory to God. So that means that you qualify to be a part of this verse, right? You qualify to do this verse. So we've got the righteous man part down, okay? If we're born again, we've been made righteous, so we've got that part down. But what's effectual fervent, right? We began talking, ministering on that yesterday. And years ago, we had moved to Colorado. Of course, we. We helped Brother Hagin for many years. Then we moved to Buffalo, New York, and we pastored there for O11 years. And then God had us move and pioneer another work in Castle Rock, Colorado. And we had been there for a couple of years. And actually, when we moved to Colorado, there was a transition in our ministry offices, and I became the lead pastor, and my husband started traveling and going out on the road more often. And so we'd been in ministry for quite some time, right? I'd been a Christian for time before that. And while we were in prayer one evening with some of our church members, the Spirit ministered to me. And, you know, I don't know about you, but whenever I hear the Spirit minister something to me, it thrills me. I don't know. I'm still in awe that God will actually, like, talk to me, right? He might talk to other people that, you know, might be higher up in the ranks of the body or something, but to talk to me, that's pretty amazing to me. And so whenever I hear God's voice, it's wonderful. And he said this. He just ministered this to me. It wasn't. It was strong, but it wasn't harsh. And he just said this. He said, become proficient in prayer. And I thought, oh, God said something. I wrote it down, right? Because we should write down what the Lord speaks to us. I wrote it down. And then I got out of my prayer time that evening, we finished our service, and I started to think about what he had just said. And I started thinking, wait a minute. Become proficient in prayer. I've been praying for years. I've been in ministry for years, and he's telling me I'm not proficient. Ouch. That told me that just time alone as a Christian, just years under my belt. I've been a Christian for 10 years, for two decades, for three decades. That alone doesn't mean that we are effectual in prayer. Talking about me, I know you know all of this. You've got it down. Praise the Lord. But for me, the Spirit was alerting me. He was helping me to realize you could help me more. We were talking about hastening the coming of the Lord, about helping this, the plan, the end time revival, this thing we call the body of Christ, Christianity, the harvest. We are all, as a body, to be helping this move forward. Part of that is being effectual, effective in our prayer time, in our prayer life, when we come together, we are to be making movement together, Movement together. And our prayer time affects what happens not just in our personal life, but it affects those that we're connected to. It affects the services that take place in our local church body. And then those that, you know, those such as these, these miracle crusades where larger groups of the Body of Christ come together for a time. We can affect these things in our prayer closet if we know how. And so times like this, to come together, to learn these things, to pray together, they're invaluable in my mind. Invaluable because we can go places together. And if you will hook up during our prayer times. What do we mean by hook? If you will not, you need to pray yourself. Okay? This is not a time for you to sit and listen to somebody else pray. This is a time for you to pray. And my husband says it this way. If you will have one ear on your spirit and one ear on whoever is praying, and that will help steer you in the spirit. It helps you learn the flow. Sorry, I didn't hear it. Helps you learn which direction you were going together. So that when you get home on your own, you got a clue. When you start to sense the Spirit moving upon you in a certain direction, you're like, we were just there last week. We were there together. And I know how to get there. Now does that make sense? Praise the Lord. In a home, there's lots of different rooms in that home, right? And the use of those rooms, it depends on what you need to do at the time, Right. If I need to lay down, I'm going to my bedroom, my bed, my pillow, my blankie. Right? That's what I want to do. That's what I need to do. That's where I'm gonna go. But there's other times where I need to go to the kitchen, right? Cause I'm hungry. Some of us are more effective in the kitchen than others. I don't want to meddle. I will personally say I used to be more effective in the kitchen than I am now. Why? My kids are grown up. They're gone. Woo. Time to party and go out to eat. That's what I'm saying. I've kind of hung up my apron, so to speak. It only comes out once in a while.
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Because I don't have to go in there as often as I used to. Right. But because of that, I was telling my congregation this. We actually had someone who had some surgery in our congregation, and we were bringing them meals. And the gal that was organizing called me and said, pastor, could you bring them a meal on such and such a date? And I said, sure, no problem. There was a problem. I didn't realize it until I went to create this meal. And that is, I'm not used to doing this anymore. I actually had to think about what I was going to make. I had to go to the grocery store and not just purchase what I wanted for that afternoon. I had to purchase, like, all the ingredients to make an entire meal. I did not realize that this grace had lifted off of my life until I was assigned this task. And then I made the meal. Oh, my Lord, I had to cook the chicken. And then, I mean, this was a process that I used to do with no problem, second nature. But because I hadn't been practiced in this activity, it required more labor, it was more intensive, it was taxing on my life, on my mind. And so by the time I got this meal and the meal was good, I will let you know, it was tasty. Why? Because I made some for us too. Of course. By the time I got finished making this meal, I looked at my husband who had gotten home at that point, and I said, you're taking the meal over there. I am not getting in the car and driving to their house. That is just one thing I cannot handle right now. It's too much. Our prayer life. If we're not well versed in all the different areas of prayer, it can seem taxing, it can seem difficult. But our prayer life is not to be that way. It ought not be that way. There should be such an ease and a flow to fellowshipping with our Father. But it does take, at first, at least a touch of effort. It takes some time to turn our heart and our focus on Him. But if you love him and you love his things, then this becomes second nature to us. Praise the Lord. It becomes second nature. And we're going to follow and flow wherever he needs us to go in this realm of prayer. So one thing that's been on my heart really for a long time, but in recent months, I would say over the past year, perhaps the Lord has been revealing to me how important it is to be praying for those in the body of Christ who are in leadership. When I say leadership, I'm talking about the five fold ministry offices, particularly pastor, right teacher, evangelist, prophet, and the apostle. If you'll turn with me to Ephesians, chapter four. Hallelujah. Ephesians, chapter 4. In verse 11, Paul tells us that the Lord gave some apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers. For the what? Perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying or the building up of of the body of Christ. The way the fivefold ministers operate affects how I grow, how I mature. It affects how the body of Christ is able to move and flow in these last days. And Therefore, we ought to be extremely interested in how our pastor functions in his office, right? How the apostles and the prophets, how their voice is carried out throughout the body of Christ, that what they're saying to the body is spot on, so to speak. Right? That it's giving clear direction, that they have boldness and strong utterance to lead the body of Christ where they need to go. This ought to be of supreme importance to us because it affects us. It affects how we live, it affects how we move. It affects how we can grow and function and prosperity in the body. We understand he supplies all of our needs, and we know it's according to his riches. But until we're sitting under a pastor, a man of God who can teach us and help direct us how to flow in that supply, we'll never tap into it as we ought. In other words, you can't just sit home and watch somebody on tv. Oh, oh, oh, oh, don't get me there. And grow like you're supposed to. The body of Christ. Paul told us he compared the body of Christ to a human body, to our physical human body. My body today is all connected the way it's supposed to be, right? My fingers are connected to my hands, my hands connected to my arm. And let me tell you, if I could get my hand off and leave it at home, it would be awkward and that hand would not function the way it was supposed to because it wasn't connected properly. So we want to be connected where we're supposed to be. Part of that connection is showing up on a Sunday morning or whenever your service is supposed to be, right? Part of your connection is realizing, that's my pastor. I need to be there when my pastor is having service. Praise the Lord. That's part of your connection, right? If you don't show up, you can't be fed. If you can't be fed, you're not gonna grow. And if you're not gonna grow, you can't mature. But how much we receive from that connection, How much we receive from that Sunday morning service or that midweek service, how much we receive from that man being my pastor, well, it depends on. On my heart. It depends on my effort to stay connected. And my connection is not just getting my little self into the chair, but my connection is to make sure that the man of God has a supply of the spirit to function in when he steps in to his role as pastor. Now, these, we call them the five fold offices. We call them that for a reason. I like that word, office. You know, we have if you have a corporation, you might have a CEO of that corporation, right? He's got an office, right? Typically the biggest office, the biggest room. Why? Because the most important part of the business of that corporation takes place in that office. And so these offices that these ministers stand in, they're so precious to God. And in an office you're going to find things there. In that office, you're going to find supplies in that office. You know, a secretary office they might have like the printer, right? The computer, they have different things to help them function in that office. The offices in this land go all the way up to one we call an oval office. That office that our President of the United States. There's a lot of people that go in and out of that office, but only one man makes the final decision. But depending on who comes in to supply that office, who comes in with aid, they call them the aides, right. Who comes in with the, the aid that that president needs to make his decision, what might that aid be? The information. Right. He doesn't, our president doesn't know everything about everything that's going on in this country. That wasn't a jab, okay? Nobody knows everything about everything, all right? Nobody, Nobody. But he has a Secretary of Education, we have a Secretary of Transportation, right. We have different ones that are more knowledgeable in that field and they bring the information needed for the president to make that decision and they lay it on his desk so that he can look at everything and make the right decision. Hopefully a pastor or any other five fold minister is to occupy an office. But they need help. They, we need help in that office. Our prayer life, our prayer life can bring a supply and lay on their desk the things that they need so that when they step into this office where they're no longer just a person that you would meet on the street, now they're pastor. Now they're the prophet of God. And they come into that office, they can easily pick up that which has been supplied in the spirit and bring it forth. Thus we get fed and the body of Christ is perfected, matured, grown up, and we can hasten the coming of the Lord. Get the job done. Get the job done. Oh my goodness. Isn't that the idea? The primary goal, get the job done. Praise the Lord. Turn with me, if you would, to Exodus. Chapter 17. Exodus chapter 17. I was ministering along these lines not too long ago and the Spirit reminded me of one of my favorite TV shows. I like to watch home and garden shows, you know, HGTV stuff. But I've kind of stopped watching that particular channel. But one of the couples that used to be on that channel, they've since departed. But I'd probably. If I say fixer upper, most of you will know Joanna Gaines. Chip Gaines, Right. I like to watch them. They ditched HGTV and they started their own network. Good for them. But the spirit was just reminding me of their progression in their field. Right. They started just fixing up a few homes here and there, and they were pretty good at it. So they got themselves a little TV camera and started filming it, and it just took off. When they first got started, they didn't have all the help that they have now. Right. They weren't doing multiple TV shows at a time. But as they've grown and increased in their position. Right. Wouldn't say in office, but in their position, they've gotten more and more help as the time has gone on. Why? Because they've progressed. They've needed to expand their help. What does their help do? I love this. You know, they don't. They don't. Chip does not go in and totally demo a house anymore. He doesn't. Who has time for that? He hires people to go in and do that. You know what he does? He shows up on demo day with his clean T shirt. He grabs a sledgehammer and does something stupid and funny like try to hang from a chandelier to pull it off the wall. Right? And then they say, cut. He's done. Okay, bye, guys. Have fun finishing. And he leaves. Why? Because there are other people there to supply the help. Because they have increased in their level of importance, and the need for their is more important in other places. And so it requires a greater supply of help to furnish that whole production. Our prayer life can come in and fix everything in the room. Bring all the pillows that Joanna might want to pull. Right. Bring all the swatches that she might need. And she walks in and she just says, this, this. This TVs roll the cameras, go. And she just puts it this. Oh, I spent all night fixing this house. Whew. Wasn't that difficult. Bye, y'. All. And she's done her part. The people that were supplying all of that, they didn't need to be seen on. They're not sitting there going, why don't they show my part? Why didn't they show that I was actually up all night? That doesn't matter. What matters is that Chip and Joanna look good and that people keep watching the show and that they keep going to Waco, Texas, or Whatever it is. To get more supplies and pay their paycheck. Come on. Our prayer life is not so we can shine. Our prayer life is so that we can help prep the room, bring all the pillows, whatever Pastor Nancy might need, whatever, you know, Pastor Watts might need for that Sunday service. Whatever they might need. We're helping to prep the room so that they can come in and shine. Glory to God. And nobody even needs to know what your part was. You know who does know? And trust me, he's good at payday. He's so good at payday. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. So in Exodus, chapter 17, verse 8, this is the first battle that the Israelites had after they left Egypt. And it says, then came Amalek and fought with Israel in Rephidim. And Moses said unto Joshua, choose us out men and go out fight with Amalek. Tomorrow I will stand on the top of the hill with the rod of God in my hand. And Joshua did as Moses said to him and fought with Amalek. And Moses, Aaron, and Hur went up to the top of the hill. And it came to pass when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed. And when he let down his hands, Amalek prevailed. But Moses hands were what, Heavy? And they took a stone and put it under him, and he sat thereon. And Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on one side and the other on the other side. And his hands were steady until the going down of the sun. And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword. And the Lord said to Moses, write this for a memorial. Praise the Lord. I don't know about you. I just sometimes play these things out in my mind. Here comes the enemy, the leader of the pack. Moses says, oh, an enemy's coming. Why don't you go fight? Looks at Joshua. You go down there and fight. What? What? What? No, that was Joshua's job. You go take people down to the battle and you fight. I'm going to climb the hill and watch. But he said, as long as I hold out this rod, we're okay. But by himself, his hands got heavy. What I see in this passage is that there's natural help that's required to fulfill something that God has called us to do. But there's also somebody that's got to come and stand and hold up the hands. What'd they do? His hands got heavy. They brought a stone. That was the best chair they had. Okay, a rock will do when nothing else is around. So he Sits down. And Aaron and her, their only job in this whole thing was just to stand there, hold him, hold up his hands, hold him steady, hold him steady, hold him steady. And as long as his hands stayed up, they won. There is natural, much natural help that has to be done. And whenever a ministry prospers and expands, that natural help will increase. There's just more and more that it's required to get things done. But we cannot forget the fact that somebody's gotta come in and stay the hands and hold things up. Now, there's a couple things I see here. Number one, Aaron and Hur weren't talking to Moses this whole time. They weren't putting in their ideas. They weren't giving their opinions of how this battle was supposed to be won. They weren't saying, you know, this might be a little bit better if. If you went down closer to the battle maybe, and waved the wand a little bit instead of just holding it in one spot. They didn't give their opinion. Their opinion wasn't needed. Moses had already received the word of God of what to do. Joshua takes the people to battle. I stay up here and hold up the rod. That was it. Hold up a rod. Really, Moses, you know, you can imagine Joshua down there and they start losing the battle. And he's looking up at the hill like, hello, can you wave it around or something? Can you help me out? And so here we are, we've got Aaron and her. Their only job was to hold Moses steady, spiritually speaking. That's what our prayer life does. It keeps our men and women of God on track. It keeps them steady so that they can do what God's called them to do. And we all win the battle. All of Israel won the battle. You got that? You got that? The people that were down there fighting, Moses up there on the hill, Aaron and her, you know, Joshua might have got there and said, great job you had. All you had to do was just hold his arms up. Yeah, but without that, without somebody holding Moses arms up, the battle would have been lost, lost, lost, lost. Why is the body of Christ sometimes going backwards instead of pushing forwards? I believe it's because we haven't always learned how to hold people steady. As a member of a church, I want my pastor to be steady. To walk into that office and have everything fully supplied so that they can come in and just deliver the word of God boldly, with tremendous utterance, and have the supply of the spirit that when miracles are in the room, they can just voom, grab it and deliver it. And it doesn't matter to me if no one knows that I was the one praying for that. Doesn't matter to me at all. But I believe that there's more and more need for this type of prayer in the body of Christ. Why? Because we need the five fold offices to shine when the camera goes on. We need them to be able to look as to be in top form. If I could say it this way and listen to me, it is not all up to the man or woman that stands here. Obviously, as a minister, we have to do our part. We consecrate ourselves to God. We study, we prepare, we spend time in his word and in the Spirit. And we do what we're supposed to do. But it is not. As things get bigger and progress and things grow larger, it cannot all be done by one man. It cannot. It requires people on the battlefield and it requires somebody to just stand there and hold their hand steady. Praise the Lord. So can we do some of that? You want to add stuff to this? Sorry, I didn't mean to take so long.
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No, you're good. Perfect.
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Hallelujah. Glory to God.
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Praise the Lord. We're going to supply do our part today to supply the offices. Amen. There is no minister who themselves can fully supply by their own prayer life, their office. It always. It's God's design for this to be a body project. Yeah, project. Praise the Lord. Excellent, Excellent. Y' all ready to pray? Then let's do some of this. Glory to God. Go ahead. All right, me. Hallelujah. Let's pray, shall we? Father, we're grateful this morning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the good word of God that you fed us this morning. Glory to God. Thank you for our instruction, for our marching orders. Thank you for this vital part of our job in the body of Christ to bring a spiritual supply to those in leadership, to those at the forefront. So we pray for those now. We pray for those standing in the forefront of the body of Christ. Those who are visible. Those who are not so visible yet, but yet still occupy these places. And we thank you, Father, for the office of the apostle. Glory to God. As they're sent, as they go, as their voice enlarges and spreads with the message and the move of God. We thank you for the prophet whose words carry that weight and that strength and who has that tangible anointing. Thank you for the prophet in the fullness. In the fullness, full manifestation of their office. For the evangelist, Father, taking the word of Christ, preaching it everywhere with signs and wonders. And, Father, thank you for the pastor and teacher. Glory to God. Shepherding the sheep, maturing with the word. We thank you for all of them that they stand, that their office be fully supplied. All the revelation. Fullness of revelation. Fullness of manifestation. Glory to God. Full manifestation. And we thank you, Holy spirit. Help us now as we all collectively lift our voice in this regard. Give us utterance along these lines. We pray and believe. Yes. We freibanda. Yes. We retire. Yes. We recalanza. Perakova. Perakova. Yes. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. The voice. The enlargement. The enlargement of the voice. The enlargement of the. Expand. The expansion. Yes. Thank you.
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For that.
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For that room and the prophet. Yes.
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It's a room of miracles. A room of miracles.
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Yeah, papa. Yeah. Now.
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Regina. Regina, Come, come. Come here. I want you to join. Join us. We're going to keep praying. We're going to keep praying. I just want you to join us and bring your utterance along this line. There we go. There we go. We go. There we go. Now the thing. Now the other things. The other things. Ha ha ha. The other things. Yes, yes, yes. They come for. Angels. Angels. Angels go.
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Angels go. Ha ha ha. Cause. Influence. Build. Influence for those buildings. Influence for those Land. Influence for those. Ah, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. For ownership. For ownership. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Ha. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Thank you, master. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. That it's also. Thank you. That it all comes to pass. Thank you, master. Thank you, master. Hallelujah. There are. There are ministers in times past in the body of Christ who have. Some of them have taken themselves out of ministry, not in ministry any longer. Some have given up. Some have made missteps. Some have just missed it. Fallen. And they won't be totally held responsible because they weren't adequately supplied. But we can't afford those kind of casualties going forward in our day. We need everybody. We need all of us. And we need all of us to make it so we're not going to fail the body of Christ to bring our supply. You know, the body of Christ can be real precious sometimes about a minister that maybe has a prominent voice. They might even miss it in some small little way. And they're the ones that should have been praying for them, but instead they go into attack mode and go into judgment mode. How many know it's time to be bigger than that. It's time to be more Christ like than that. And we want everybody to make it. I don't look, you know, we had. I remember when I was pastoring, we had a minister in town who just messed up like big. And the thought came. The thought. Because thoughts will come, right? The thought coming isn't the sin. But the thought came to me, well, maybe I'll get some of his church members, you know, come to my church and that'll grow my church. That's not the. And, and the Spirit arrested me really quickly on that. You can imagine how that thought would come, you know, but how many know? We look best when everybody looks good. Amen. And I don't need somebody. I don't need somebody to fall for me to rise.
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We want to. We want us all to come up. We want, like, like Amy was saying, we want everybody to shine. Yeah. Praise the Lord. You believe we had an effective time here in prayer this morning. You've been sitting for a while. Can we give thanks to the Lord and stand up? Maybe change your position? Hallelujah. Maybe we'll sing something and just, just, just show our appreciation for how God helped us today. If you have something, brother, thank you, life, Lord. Be glorified. Be glorified.
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Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Supplying The Office | Joel & Amy Siegel | Tulsa, OK | Tuesday AM | Miracle Crusade 2023
Date: April 25, 2023
This episode, recorded live at the Miracle Crusade 2023, features pastors Joel and Amy Siegel teaching on the vital role believers play in supplying spiritual strength and prayer support to ministry offices—pastors, prophets, apostles, evangelists, and teachers. With a focus on prayer, unity, and the “supply of the Spirit," the episode blends practical stories, biblical teaching, and real-time corporate intercession, all aimed at empowering the body of Christ to help ministry leaders fulfill God’s plan with effectiveness and longevity.
On the necessity of prayer supply:
“There is no minister who themselves can fully supply by their own prayer life, their office. It always… It’s God’s design for this to be a body project.”
— Joel Siegel (44:43)
On invisible roles:
“Our prayer life is not so we can shine. Our prayer life is so that we can help prep the room, bring all the pillows… so that they can come in and shine. Glory to God. And nobody even needs to know what your part was. You know who does know?…He’s good at payday.”
— Amy Siegel (31:45)
On supporting ministers through setbacks:
“We look best when everybody looks good… I don’t need somebody to fall for me to rise. We want us all to come up… We want everybody to shine.”
— Joel Siegel (60:03)
| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:09 | Introduction & Invitation for Deliverance | | 06:25 | Amy Siegel: Heart for Prayer & Effectual Fervency | | 11:10 | “Become proficient in prayer”—Amy’s testimony | | 18:15 | Analogy: Cooking and practiced skill in prayer | | 22:40 | The fivefold ministry offices—Importance of prayer for leaders | | 33:30 | Moses, Aaron, and Hur: The biblical support system | | 44:38 | Joel Siegel: No one can fully supply their office alone | | 51:32 | Prophetic prayer for leaders, ministry advancement, and angelic aid | | 57:05 | On ministers falling due to lack of “supply” | | 59:17 | Call for unity, maturity, and mutual support among believers |
Throughout the episode, Joel and Amy Siegel maintain an encouraging, slightly humorous, practical, and deeply spiritual tone. They emphasize unity, humility, and the responsibility of all believers to engage in prayer—not just for their own needs, but to “supply the office” of ministry leaders so the church can accomplish its mission. The episode closes with unified prayer, prophetic declarations, and a call for the body of Christ to function as a supportive, interconnected family.