Podcast Summary
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Testimony Of The Healing Anointing | Nancy Dufresne | Georgetown, TX | Sunday PM | Miracle Crusade
Date: October 16, 2023
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Episode Overview
In this powerful Miracle Crusade message, Pastor Nancy Dufresne recounts the origin and operation of the healing anointing within the Dufresne family ministry, emphasizing the importance of sharing testimony, honoring the anointing, and remaining obedient to God's call despite challenges. Nancy shares the inspiring journey of her late husband, Dr. Ed Dufresne, from a troubled early life to a global ministry impacting countless people through miracles and healings. The episode is shaped as both a faith-building teaching and a personal testimony, underscoring the practical implications of stewarding God's anointing and remaining sensitive to the supernatural.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
The Power of Testimony
- Heaven values testimonies: Nancy opens by sharing a story (00:55) about Smith Wigglesworth’s descendant who, in a vision, saw Jesus asking for stories, illustrating that heaven delights in testimonies about God’s movement.
- Biblical Examples: Paul sharing his testimony before King Agrippa rather than deep doctrine; the woman with the issue of blood whose testimony has brought healing to multitudes (02:20).
- Notable Quote:
“What we rehearse, God repeats.” – Nancy Dufresne (03:15)
The Healing Anointing in Jesus' Ministry (Luke 4:16-21)
- Jesus' custom of going to synagogue:
“If Jesus needed church, we need church.” (04:25)
- Purpose of the Anointing: Jesus publicly declared what the anointing was for—preaching, healing, delivering.
- Persecution and Consistency:
“He didn’t change his message because of persecution… The devil was trying to intimidate him to not preach that again.” (09:10)
- Importance of Announcing the Anointing:
“If the people did not know what the anointing came to do, they would not receive of it.” (11:25)
Honoring the Anointing and Spiritual Offices
- Personal Stories: Nancy recounts advice to her husband Ed when pressured to stop discussing angelic or supernatural experiences:
“Don’t let someone who does not stand in your shoes tell you how to walk them.” (13:55)
- Making much of the anointing on your pastor: Encouraged as part of spiritual maturity and receiving from God (12:30).
Ed Dufresne’s Story—God’s Movement Through Imperfect Beginnings
Early Life & Turning Point
- Challenging family background: Alcoholism, mental illness, poverty (22:35).
- A moment of "turning": Ed, feeling hopeless, cries out to God from a bar stool—“No one has ever turned toward me and me not met them there.” (28:05)
- Supernatural calling: Ed audibly hears God call him to preach worldwide (29:20).
Spiritual Growth Through Service
- Serving the local church: Ed's humility shown when taking on jobs like cleaning toilets:
“When you love God, nothing’s beneath you… Anything that God is attached to, there’s the honor of it.” (34:20)
- Faith in action: Obedience to build a church without a salary, trusting God for provision, even scavenging for food when necessary (40:00).
- Provision through faith: Leads to unexpected abundance—pallets of food, supernatural business opportunities, and financial breakthrough (44:15).
The Call to Minister and the Birth of the Healing Anointing
- Divine connections: Encounters with John Osteen, Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland at Full Gospel Businessmen’s Convention (53:10).
- Receiving the healing anointing:
- A dramatic experience at a convention—falling under God’s power, receiving a healing anointing, instant miracle for a woman with a cancerous tumor (01:01:40).
- Quote:
“Scores of people just laying around, falling out under the power of God. And Jesus walks in and puts a healing anointing in [Ed’s] hand.” (01:01:16)
Persecution, Rejection, and Staying True
- Church opposition: Healing ministry not welcomed; Ed is pushed out despite supernatural results like creative miracles in children (01:07:50).
- Faithfulness to the vision: Even when ostracized, the anointing produces fruit as Ed continues home meetings, ministering with Brother Copeland’s teaching tapes and healing the sick (01:12:05).
Angelic Assistance and Legacy
- Angels dispatched for the healing ministry: Vision of 100 angels assigned, 50 remaining with Nancy after Ed’s passing, others to connected ministers (01:23:40).
- Notable instruction:
“If you will be faithful with those 50 angels... that is, talk about them. Because when you talk about them, you give them permission to work.” (01:24:20)
The Power of Obedience and Everyday Faithfulness
- Building in the hidden place:
“God doesn’t build us in the spectacular moments. It’s in the everyday moments of life.” (51:35)
- Encouragement: Faithfulness in the mundane, not spectacular, is what qualifies us for greater anointing and responsibility.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Tell your testimony and watch what God will do.” – Ed Dufresne (02:40)
- “Jesus healed the maimed...I believe they [angels] bring body parts.” – Nancy Dufresne (01:31:25)
- “You only get to participate in what you honor.” – Nancy Dufresne (01:10:45)
- “Never hold to your friend more than you hold to your pastor... Stay with where God put you.” (01:11:15)
- “We’re believers, not doubters. We’ve come this week to believe.” (01:33:00)
Important Timestamps
- 00:55 – Story of Smith Wigglesworth’s great-granddaughter’s vision
- 02:20 – The importance of testimony (Paul, woman with issue of blood)
- 04:25 – Jesus’ custom of going to synagogue
- 09:10 – Jesus faces persecution for declaring the anointing
- 11:25 – The need to announce the anointing for others to receive
- 13:55 – Advice not to let others outside your calling direct you
- 22:35 – Ed’s challenging family background
- 28:05 – Ed’s turning point—crying out to God
- 29:20 – Ed’s supernatural calling in a bar
- 34:20 – Taking humble church service jobs
- 40:00 – Building a church by faith; scavenging for food
- 44:15 – Unexpected financial breakthrough and faithfulness in increase
- 53:10 – Divine connections at Full Gospel Businessmen’s Convention
- 01:01:16 – Ed receives the healing anointing, lobby healing miracles
- 01:07:50 – Rejection from church; healing miracles in children
- 01:12:05 – Ministering in home groups using Copeland’s tapes
- 01:23:40 – Angels dispatched for ministry
- 01:31:25 – Angels bringing body parts, miracles of the maimed
- 01:33:00 – Closing encouragement: Believing, receiving, standing in faith
Final Thoughts and Takeaways
Pastor Nancy Dufresne’s message is a stirring call to recognize and cooperate with God’s anointing, honor those He sends, and remain steadfast in simple faith and obedience. Her personal and family testimony powerfully illustrates that every believer can turn to God, steward the anointing, and participate in miracles—sometimes in ordinary places, always through extraordinary trust in Him.
“Let’s be true to who we are—we’re believers, not doubters. And because we’re believers, we’re receivers.” – Nancy Dufresne (01:33:10)
Listen to the full episode for a rich, faith-charging account of how the healing anointing is cultivated, honored, and passed on — and how your own everyday choices can make room for miracles.
