Podcast Summary: "The Anointing That Teaches Us"
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Speaker: Joel Siegel
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Date: November 3, 2021
Location: World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA
Episode Overview
In this engaging message, Joel Siegel explores the vital role of "the anointing that teaches us"—the Holy Spirit's inner guidance and discernment in the life of a believer. Siegel emphasizes that the Christian walk is not just about outward acts or big miracles but about learning to follow the Spirit’s inward witness in everyday choices. He offers practical insights into distinguishing God's true flow from false or opposing spiritual influences and urges believers to hone their ability to be Spirit-led, starting with the small things.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Era of the Miraculous and the 'Miracle Flow'
- Siegel recounts a visitation from the Lord in 2013, where God told him to "take up the miracle flow" ([00:08]).
- Emphasizes that the era of miracles is not past: "The era of the miraculous is now. It’s today. It’s for us, it’s all the way" ([00:55]).
- Challenges the audience: God wants to live through us, not just have us live for Him ([01:39]).
2. Starting Small in the Miraculous
- Skills in following God develop through daily decisions and small "miraculous" acts, not just dramatic events ([03:50]).
- Cites Peter and John healing the cripple at the gate Beautiful, noting faith and skill develop on our own “stuff” first before being used for others ([05:15]).
3. Spiritual Insight by the Spirit, Not Reason
- Reads 1 Corinthians 2:9: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard… the things God has prepared for those that love Him.”
- Points out many Christians stop at that verse and miss verse 10: “But God has revealed them to us by His Spirit” ([07:43]).
- "That is supernatural. When you know something by the Spirit, that's part of the miracle flow" ([09:48]).
- Even insights from God's Word require Spirit revelation, not just intellectual effort.
4. Distinguishing God’s Anointing from Other 'Flows'
- There are many spiritual "flows" in the world; not all are God's anointing ([14:33]).
- Teaches on the meaning of "antichrist"—not only as a person, but as anything "anti-anointing," contrary to God’s flow ([18:17]).
- "The opposite of the anointing is often no anointing, or a false anointing" ([19:15]).
- Shares the humorous example of "team spirit" as a flow (the Denver Broncos fan), contrasting harmless human enthusiasm with true spiritual anointing ([21:50]).
5. Every Believer Has the Anointing to Know
- "But you have an unction (anointing) from the Holy One, and you know all things" (1 John 2:20, [26:39]).
- Urges believers not to say “I don’t know” but to declare by faith, “I’ll know!” ([28:05]).
- It’s vital to know the Holy Spirit so well that His direction is clear, even against natural thinking ([29:34]).
6. Testing the Spirits
- Quotes 1 John 4:1, “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits whether they are of God…” ([34:55]).
- Explains “confesseth” (homologeo) means to “speak the same” as Jesus did by the Spirit—the true anointing always aligns with Christ’s words and manner ([39:50]).
- Notable Quote: “Every spirit that speaks the same as Christ when he was in the flesh, is of God. And every spirit that speaks contrary … is not of God” ([41:19]).
7. Identifying True Versus False Prophetic Words
- When a prophetic word is delivered, the audience should look inward: is the anointing present with what's being said? If it's missing, it's not God ([45:07]).
- “There's only one thing missing: the anointing… that tangible presence and peace of the Spirit of God" ([46:10]).
8. The Importance of Limiting Voices
- Encourage believers to "pull back from things God didn't specifically set in your life." Listening to too many voices muddies spiritual discernment ([53:02]).
- "The more voices you pull back from...that is your best shot at being able to discern the spirit of truth from the spirit of error" ([54:00]).
- He and his wife intentionally listen only to those ministers God has assigned to them ([57:10]).
9. Practical Sensitivity to the Spirit
- Describes the practice of “checking your heart” for the inward witness on both big and small decisions ([1:06:15]).
- Gives example of purchasing an item and following the Spirit’s witness rather than mind or price ([1:09:25]).
- “The witness of the Spirit… is like a little wind. Just ‘whoosh’ on the inside of you” ([1:12:00]).
10. Abiding in the Anointing
- Cites 1 John 2:27, “But the anointing which you have received abides in you, and you need not that any man teach you…” ([1:15:05]).
- The believer is taught and guided by the “same anointing” that was on Jesus—because the anointing “is truth, and is no lie” ([1:16:45]).
- Build sensitivity on small decisions ("$30 decisions") so it's easier to trust and hear for bigger ones ([1:18:30]).
11. Concluding Challenge and Prayer
- The message ends with a prayer, asking God for discernment and increased awareness of His Spirit, "so that we get it right time and time again" ([1:21:40]).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “The era of the miraculous is now. It’s today. It’s for us, it’s all the way.” ([00:55])
- “God wants better than that. He wants to live through you. He wants to flow through you and work for you and look through those eyes that you got and talk through that mouth. God wants to talk through you.” ([01:39])
- “When you know something by the Spirit, that's part of the miracle flow.” ([09:48])
- “The opposite of the anointing is often no anointing, or a false anointing.” ([19:15])
- “Careful about saying, ‘I don’t know.’ ...Say, ‘I’ll know.’ Thank you, Lord, I’ll know.” ([28:05])
- “How silly is it for me to say, ‘No, you're not married’ [to a married couple]? ...You can’t tell people that are married that they're not married. They know they are married. Why? Because they abide.” ([32:30])
- "Every spirit that speaks the same as Christ when he was in the flesh, is of God. And every spirit that speaks contrary ... is not of God." ([41:19])
- "There’s only one thing missing: the anointing.” ([46:10])
- “If you don’t look to God at the $300 things, then you get to the point where it’s $300,000 or $3 million, and you're going to start trying to hear from Him then? Start on the stuff where, if you miss, it was $30—we’ll recover. Start there.” ([1:18:30])
Important Timestamps
- 00:08 – Visitation from the Lord, "Miracle flow"
- 07:43 – 1 Corinthians 2:9–10: "God has revealed [the mysteries] to us by his Spirit"
- 18:17 – Teaching on "anti-anointing" and different spiritual flows
- 26:39 – 1 John 2:20: "You have an unction from the Holy One, and you know all things"
- 34:55 – Testing the spirits (1 John 4)
- 41:19 – Explaining homologeo—speaking the same as Jesus spoke by the Spirit
- 46:10 – Discernment of true prophetic utterance
- 53:02 – Pulling back from other voices to stay tuned to what God has assigned
- 1:09:25 – Practical example of following inward witness at the store
- 1:15:05 – 1 John 2:27: “But the anointing ... abides in you”
- 1:21:40 – Closing prayer and blessing
Takeaways
- The "miracle flow" isn’t restricted to spectacular public events, but involves being Spirit-led in all aspects of life.
- Every believer has the inner means (the anointing of the Holy Spirit) to discern truth from error.
- It is vital—especially in the last days with many voices and "flows"—to know and follow God’s voice above all others.
- Cultivate an intimate, practical relationship with the Spirit starting in the small daily decisions.
- Pull back from unnecessary voices; anchor yourself to the spiritual leaders and sources God has specifically set in your life.
- Sensitivity to the inward witness grows with practice—start small, and your ability to hear and obey will multiply.
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