Podcast Summary: "The Easy Flow | Nancy Dufresne | Fresno, CA | JTH Crusades 2024 | Monday PM"
Date: March 27, 2024
Host/Speaker: Nancy Dufresne
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Location: Fresno, California (JTH Crusades 2024)
Overview
In this empowering message, Pastor Nancy Dufresne teaches on “the easy flow” of God’s miraculous power as opposed to a life of spiritual striving and hardship. Drawing from both Old and New Testament scriptures, she challenges believers to renew their minds, abandon “hard” thinking, and embrace the simplicity and ease available through faith in Jesus Christ. The episode is practical, uplifting, and offers a paradigm shift in how believers approach difficulties, health, and everyday challenges.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Reverence, Honor, and Receiving from God
- Nancy opens by emphasizing the importance of honoring and reverencing God—not simply through quietness or physical posture, but by moving with Him and responding to His prompts. (01:00)
- Quote: “Only the part of the word that we reverence is the part we can partake of. Only the part we honor is the part we can receive of.” (02:10)
The Miraculous as Normal for Believers
- References Psalm 105:37, reflecting on Israel leaving Egypt: “He brought them forth also with silver and gold, and there was not one feeble person among their tribes.” (06:45)
- Nancy conveys holy “jealousy” for believers today to live in that same wholeness, since the New Covenant is even better: “No Hebrew with a lesser covenant should have more than me. And if they do, I'm doing it wrong.” (10:50)
Becoming Intolerant of the Subpar
- Nancy urges: “You will have everything you're okay with … if you ever decide, ‘I'm done dealing with and hosting what ought not be part of my life,’ the power of God will back you up.” (12:00)
- Believers must stop tolerating sickness, lack, or struggle and actively choose what God has provided.
The Difference Between God’s People and the World
- Cites Exodus 11:7: “The Lord doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.” (14:10)
- Our lives, homes, bodies, and finances should be noticeably different; similarity with the world means “we’re doing it wrong.” (15:30)
The Law of Saying — “Which is Easier to Say?”
- Refers to Matthew 9:2–8: Jesus tells the paralyzed man, “Which is easier to say, thy sins be forgiven thee, or to say, arise and walk?” (21:00)
- Nancy unpacks the divine order: believers are called not to perform the miracle but simply say the word in faith.
- Quote: “It's not your job to get rid of pain. ... It's about what you say.” (24:10)
- Instructions for healing, wholeness, prosperity, etc., become “easy” when approached through saying—declaring God’s word—rather than mental struggle or effort.
The “Easy Flow” vs. The “Hard Flow”
- The concept is vividly illustrated through the story of Naaman (2 Kings 5): Though expecting some great, difficult act, Naaman is told to simply dip in the Jordan.
- Quote: “If we’re on the hard road, we’re on the wrong road. Because God doesn’t put his children in a hard flow. He puts us in an easy flow.” (34:50)
- Jesus has already done the hard part. All that remains for the believer is the “easy” part—obedience and faith-filled speaking.
Practical Application: Making Everything “Easy”
- Homework Assignment: “When you leave this place, you call everything easy.” (42:00)
- Relationships, finances, healing—label them “easy” for God’s power instead of affirming their difficulty.
- Repeat declarations: “It’s so easy. My health is so easy. That condition is so easy with God.” (1:10:40)
Scriptures Emphasizing “Easy”
- Proverbs 14:30 (AMP): “A calm and undisturbed mind and heart are the life and health of the body.” (46:30)
- Proverbs 15:19 (Living Bible): “The good man’s path is easy.” (50:20)
- Romans 10:8 (Living Bible): “For salvation that comes from trusting Christ... is already within easy reach of each of us.” (50:50)
- Quote: “If something is hard, I’m doing it wrong.” (46:55)
The Renewed Mind & Victory
- EW Kenyon is quoted: “As our minds are renewed, the devil is no longer a problem to us.” (54:40)
- An unrenewed mind—not the devil—keeps believers in bondage.
- Renewing the mind with “easy” thinking aligns us with divine victory.
Final Thoughts & Practical Encouragement
- Start each day and end each night declaring how easy things are for you in Christ. (1:10:00)
- “It’s easy to say. That’s why believing is so easy for you, because it’s so easy to say.” (1:11:45)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On God’s Nature and Flow:
- “If I’m in the hard flow, I have transgressed his flow. … If it’s hard, the way of the transgressor [is hard]." (Proverbs 13:15 reference) (50:00)
- Finding Ease in God:
- “We have given so much clout to certain words of sickness and disease… but they can't push around the divine nature in you.” (1:13:00)
- On the Devil and Unrenewed Minds:
- “Any Christian who is in bondage is in bondage to an unrenewed mind, not to the devil.” (56:30)
- Simple Faith:
- “Faith is easy. Healing is easy. … Stay in your part. Let God do his part, which is everything.” (38:40)
- On Saying:
- “This is so easy for God. This is so easy for me. … It's so easy for me to say I have no more pain.” (28:40)
Timestamps for Key Segments
| Timestamp | Segment / Main Idea | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 00:00-02:10| Introduction; reverence & honor | | 06:45 | Psalm 105:37 – “Not one feeble” | | 10:50 | Expecting wholeness; “doing it wrong” if not | | 12:00 | “You will have everything you’re okay with” | | 14:10 | Exodus 11:7 – “A difference between Israel/Egyptians”| | 21:00 | Matthew 9:2-8 – “Which is easier to say?” | | 24:10 | Healing by saying/declaring | | 34:50 | Naaman’s story; God’s “easy” assignment | | 42:00 | Homework: “Call everything easy.” | | 46:30 | Proverbs & calm mind; physical health | | 50:00 | Proverbs 13:15; Signs we’re out of God’s flow | | 54:40 | EW Kenyon on the renewed mind | | 56:30 | Dad Hagin: Bondage is from unrenewed mind | | 1:10:00-1:15:00| Daily declarations, closing encouragement |
Tone and Style
- Warm, practical, and empowering
- Uses repetition for emphasis (“It’s easy. It’s easy. It’s easy.”)
- Relatable wit and humor (e.g., stories about swimming/Ramos, airline altitude)
- Frequent direct address to listeners, inviting participation and declaration
Summary
This message reframes faith and the Christian walk—especially in dealing with challenges, sickness, or lack—from a posture of striving and effort to one of rest, ease, and simple believing. Nancy Dufresne calls believers to think, speak, and act from their position in Christ, declaring God’s promises as “easy” for Him and thus “easy” for us. Listeners are equipped not only theologically but practically, with daily “homework” to speak faith-filled words over every circumstance. This episode is a liberating invitation to leave behind the struggle and enter “the easy flow” of God’s miracle-working power.