Podcast Summary:

Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode Title: The Glory In The Last Days | Nancy Dufresne | Mississauga, Canada | JTH Crusades 2024 | Monday PM
Date: August 28, 2024

Overview

This episode, led by Pastor Nancy Dufresne at the JTH Crusades in Mississauga, centers on discerning and participating in "the glory of God" in these last days, both personally and corporately. The episode features teaching, prophetic utterances, visions, personal stories, and input from several ministers, all urging believers to prepare spiritually for a greater move of God by embracing God’s unique plan for every service—and for every life—especially the necessity to flow with the Spirit and honor each role in the body of Christ.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. God's Tailor-Made Plan for Every Service

• (00:00–05:24) Nancy Dufresne begins by emphasizing that God has a specific, answer-filled plan for every gathering. She recounts being led to switch directions in her ministering, highlighting the need to eliminate human rush and plans to allow space for God's agenda.
  • "God said to me, there's always enough time in every service for my plan... So preachers don't have to say, you know, and talk fast, da, da, da, da, da, and leave people behind. Right, right. Because there's always enough time to slow down and take the pace of peace in a service.” — Nancy Dufresne (04:50)
• She discusses the skill pastors need to sense and interpret the flow of a service, rather than sticking rigidly to an order or autopilot.

2. Faith, Expectation, & Corporate Participation

• (05:24–09:03) Faith is key for both ministers and congregation members; no matter the order or flow, the Holy Spirit can meet all needs “within the timeframe of His plan.”
  • "Don't unhook your faith and say, this part of the service isn't pertinent to me... Every part of the service is pertinent to you if we're staying with the plan." — Nancy Dufresne (08:20)

3. Following the Holy Spirit: Beyond the Outline

• (09:03–13:00) Nancy shares personal anecdotes about how God changes her message at the last minute, and how humility and sensitivity, rather than “autopilot expectations”, let God move freshly.
  • "Don't assume He'll meet your need a certain way... Expect God to meet you, but don't expect how He's going to meet you." — Nancy Dufresne (10:23)

4. Miracles Follow God’s Plan, Not Our Effort

• (13:00–17:34) She tells the story of Ed Dufresne’s “worst sermon” leading to a miraculous healing, underscoring that it’s not the length or eloquence, but God’s presence and plan that bring results.
  • "See, in God's plan, in God's plan, it doesn't have to be an hour service, a two-hour service. In God's plan, it's not about the time, it's about who's moving." — Nancy Dufresne (15:35)

5. Hungering for the Glory and Responding Together

• (17:34–21:30) Nancy introduces a flow into prophetic utterance and music, encouraging the congregation to corporately engage ("hook on") when ministers pray or act.
• Pastor Noel declares prophetic words about the fire and glory of God coming now to "this region... New York is on fire. It's now." (18:13–20:05)

6. Vision of the Last Days

• (21:30–41:19) Nancy reads Tommy Hicks’ 1961 vision of the Body of Christ and explains its relevance:
  • God is ready to use “the do nothings, the nobodies, the unheard of,” not just ministers.
  • The last days will see a global outpouring, miracles—greater than Acts—with humble men and women, not tied to names, denominations, or buildings.
  • This vision is for every believer who responds.
  • "Not just ministers. It's everyone who will respond. I want to see it. I don't just want to see it. I want to be available to him in it." — Nancy Dufresne (40:05)

7. Preparing for Greater Moves: Developing Spiritual Skills

• (41:19–47:09) The need for training churches and believers to be sensitive and skillful with the Spirit, preparing now, before the coming “momentum.”
  • "There's coming a momentum that we won't have time to be at beginning stages in… let's catch up. There's not going to be time to learn it when it's time to move in it." — Nancy Dufresne (39:55)

8. Testimonies of Glory Bringing Healing

• (47:09–50:31)
  • Pastor Jay and Nancy share a testimony from Kenneth Hagin’s Healing School: as people worshipped in the glory, one woman was instantly healed and able to eat after many failed surgeries.
    • "In that glory… she just reached up and she said, 'I take my healing.'” — Pastor Jay (44:00)
  • Call for the congregation to reach up and receive healing in the glory.

9. Prophetic Confirmation and Outpouring

• (47:23–52:24)
  • Pastor Laketic shares a confirming vision for New York and the east coast—youth being filled powerfully with the Spirit—as evidence that the fire and glory are already falling.
  • Nancy references Smith Wigglesworth and William Branham's prophecies, confirming that the final, greatest revival will combine all previous ones.

10. Valuing the Move of the Spirit and Avoiding Carnal Ambition

• (56:48–61:20)
  • Nancy warns against designing church or ministry to attract the unsaved at the cost of the Holy Spirit's move.
    • "Don't dumb down and step back from what God's doing just to try to gather a crowd of people who aren't interested in what God's doing." — Nancy Dufresne (59:25)
  • The aim is not personal ambition or numbers, but simple obedience to God’s plan, Word, and Spirit.

11. Embracing Your Place: Not Just the Fivefold, but Helper Roles

• (79:48–83:31)
  • David (worship leader) and Nancy discuss the essential—often overlooked—ministry of helps.
    • "If you only understood how big of a help you can be. … Little songs and little things … are bridges and connectors to a higher flow…" — David (80:43)
    • "The Holy Spirit is called the helper. He's not there to fulfill his will. He's there to fulfill the will of God ... The highest role I played was to help my husband." — Nancy Dufresne (82:12–85:00)
  • Warning against ambition for office; encouragement to serve in whatever capacity God ordains.

12. Vital Practice: Praying in the Spirit

• (87:00–89:00)

  • Rather than calculating and planning with natural intellect, the Spirit’s plan for your life is discovered, spoken out, and realized through praying in tongues:

    • "Lay down your pen and pencil and your paper that you plan and you scheme and you organize and you calculate. And pick up this divine gift of speaking in other tongues and start speaking out by divine utterance the plan for your life instead of calculating on paper, the plan for your life." — Nancy Dufresne (87:47)

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the Flow of the Spirit:
  • “Pastors need to learn to interpret the flow of services... You have to be sensitive to it.” — Nancy Dufresne (04:50)
• On God's Time versus Human Planning:
  • “God can fit his plan into 30 seconds… If we're following the Holy Ghost, we can do things whether we have a larger window of time or small, smaller window of time.” — Nancy Dufresne (06:45)
• On Autopilot Ministry:
  • “I've been in lots of services where this plan isn't stayed with. And then it's like, come on, let's just go home, you know? Or I just start pulling out my calendar and working on it. Why? Well, the Holy Ghost left, so I might as well get some work done.” — Nancy Dufresne (08:55)
• On Miracles Unbound by Time:
  • “She had… both of her feet were clubbed feet, they were turned around backwards… While you were preaching, God straightened out her feet… in 15 minutes.” — Nancy Dufresne sharing Ed Dufresne’s testimony (13:50–15:35)
• On Prophetic Fulfillment:
  • “God is going to take the do nothings, the nobodies… and he's going to give them this outpouring of the Spirit of God.” — Tommy Hicks’ vision, read by Nancy Dufresne (21:55)
• On the Move of God in the “Helps” Ministry:
  • “If you only understood how critical that little place is… They're bridges and connectors to a higher flow.” — David (80:43)
  • “The Holy Spirit is called the Helper… So dangerous to try to pastor a church if you're not called…” — Nancy Dufresne (82:12–85:00)
• On Worship and Participation:
  • “Don't just stand back and watch. Imitate what the people who know the flow are doing. That's part of learning.” — Nancy Dufresne (73:15)

Major Timestamps

• 00:00–09:00: Flowing with God's plan; removing rush and autopilot from services
• 13:00–17:34: Testimony of instantaneous miracle in “worst” sermon
• 17:35–21:30: Prophetic utterances and worship; instructions for engagement
• 21:31–41:18: Reading and unpacking Tommy Hicks’ end time vision
• 47:09–50:31: Healing in the glory through worship—personal stories from Kenneth Hagin’s Healing School
• 56:48–61:20: Dangers of ambition and building at the cost of God’s move
• 79:48–85:00: The honor and necessity of the ministry of helps; laying down ambition
• 87:00–89:00: Exhortation to pray in the Spirit to receive God’s plan

Conclusion

This episode is a call to spiritual alignment—recognizing, valuing, and responding to God's glory in these last days, not just from the pulpit but in every part of the Church. The message is both sobering and empowering: every believer can, and must, engage by faith, by skilled spiritual practice (especially praying in the Spirit), and by gladly taking their ordained place, whether in the limelight or behind the scenes. The “glory in the last days” will not be reserved for the famous or the few—but for the obedient and the hungry.

For Listeners

This episode is for anyone yearning for authentic moves of God, those wrestling with questions about their place in the church, and those hungry for practical guidance on how to be part of what God is doing now—not just waiting for some distant fulfullment. It blends prophetic insight, practical wisdom, encouragement, and a rallying cry to participate in God’s supernatural plan—right where you are.