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The Glory In The Last Days | Nancy Dufresne | Mississauga, Canada | JTH Crusades 2024 | Monday PM
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Jesus made the statement to dad Hagin. He said, I have a plan for every service. So he tailor made something for us tonight in his plan, right? And in that plan, it holds answers and revelation. It holds his best is what it holds. And that best can play out in different veins and different flows. We were, I don't know, maybe two weeks ago or so we were at your church, Pastor J with their camp meeting and I came in intending to minister one direction and just a whole nother sermon dropped and started ministering about the pace of peace that we're to live at the pace of peace. That doesn't mean that everything is quiet. It just means that we stay within the plan. And one of the things I did say that the spirit of God said to me that night, and he said ministers should remove all the rush out of their services because there's always enough time in the service for God's plan in that service. Now there won't always be enough time for men to miss the plan and conduct that plan from their plan, but there's always enough time in every service for what God planned for that service. So that means we cut away our wanderings. I remember. Anybody remember? Ed used to say, when I married Ed, he was a two hour to two and a half hour preacher every service. Did you know that, brother? I knew it. That was that word of faith teaching. Is that not right, David? Cindy, isn't that, that was norm. That was the norm. You never, you seldom left the service before 11:00 clock at night.
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Exactly.
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Seldom. And that wasn't because there was a move of the spirit that, because the preacher's mouth kept moving. But that was, that was God. It wasn't just people going long because they liked to hear themselves. It was that era. And there was anointing on it. But he was a two hour to two and a half hour preacher. But then things shift and things change by the spirit I'm talking about. And if you don't go with them, you end up staying the way you used to do it. And so Ed was staying the way he used to do it. Two, two and a half hours. And God said to him one day, he said, cut the fluff out of your sermon. And he said, well, how much of my sermon should be left? And God said, 50 minutes. That's what he said to him. 50 minutes. If you haven't said the majority of it, 50 minutes you're probably not going to arrive for a while because too many times we get used to formulating, and then we take what we formulated, and it takes us an hour and a half to even get to point number one. We're probably off the plan. And then we go past the anointing, and then everybody's tired and their backsides are needing a readjusting. And God said to me, there's always enough time in every service for my plan. So preachers don't have to say, you know, and talk fast, da, da, da, da, da, and leave people behind. Right, right. Because there's always enough time to slow down and take the pace of peace in a service. Because if you do that, then the people can soak in the plan of that service. And it's not a rush, a push, Hurry up, I got to get this done. Got to get that done. We just need to cut out our plan and just stay with his plan. But there's a skill in that, and you have to interpret the flow of a service. Pastors need to learn to interpret the flow of services. They need to learn that. But you have to be around seeing that happen so you can learn it. Otherwise, you'll just go back to your printed out sheet of the order of service. You have to be sensitive to it. So that's what I'm doing right now. I'm just taking the time. So because we have enough time in this service for his plan. Yes.
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Yes. Amen. Amen.
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Amen. I don't care if someone is told. I don't go over service times when I'm invited. And they say, like at Brother Copeland's, they say, you have 50 minutes. I do 50 minutes. It's not right to decide that you're more important than what they told you to do. Well, that's the spirit of God on me. No, the spirit of God knows how to stay within order and etiquette, spiritual etiquette. And so when they told me that, that's what I'm staying with. And I'm not dismissed from that because the anointing's on me. Because the Holy Ghost heard them say 50 minutes. And the Holy Ghost plan will can be completely fulfilled in the time frame. I don't care if someone gives you, you know, in a few weeks, I'll go to be with Brother Copeland again. We'll be at Victory Thon, which is a live show for a week, and they talk about the Victory Channel. They walk over to you and you don't know when they're coming. You don't know what they're going to ask you. But every single time God has dropped something, something in me to say, And I have 30 seconds to say it, and people start getting healed, things start happening. Because God can fit his plan into 30 seconds. But too many times, we think a service has to be ordered this way for everything to get out of my heart. If we're following the Holy Ghost, we can do things whether we have a larger window of time or small, smaller window of time. So, pastors, you need to learn that so you don't get rutted. And then you don't know how to interpret the flow of a service. Right. Because you're so used to what you can control. I don't know why I'm saying any of this, but it's good for us to know. So what I'm saying is that even for every congregation member who comes with a need and an expectation, that the Holy Ghost knows how to meet that in that service within that time frame of his plan. So don't think that because one flow happened in the service, that your need is not going to get reached through that flow or ministered to out of that flow. Because the Holy Ghost knows how to meet the need of every person in a room, regardless of what the time frame is. So what am I saying? Don't let down your faith. Maybe somebody says, I, I came for healing, but they're going to do this or they're going to do that, and it's not the flow of healing. You can still receive what you're expecting when the Holy Ghost is getting his way in a service. That's the atmosphere that you receive in. So I'm saying, don't unhook your faith and say, this part of the service isn't pertinent to me. Every part of the service is pertinent to you. If we're staying with the plan. Now, I've been in lots of services where this plan isn't stayed with. And then it's like, come on, let's just go home, you know? Or I just start pulling out my calendar and working on it. Why? Well, the Holy Ghost left, so I might as well get some work done. I don't say that to be unkind. I'm just saying that that's why it's important. Important that we not just minister on autopilot. Yeah. Amen.
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Amen.
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Amen. I think I made. I'm not sure if I made a mistake or not before the service. I don't listen to sermons before I Preach, or I'll get up and preach that sermon because it's moving in you, and what you put in comes out. And so I'm real careful not to listen to a sermon, especially if I don't know what the flow of the service is going to be. Well, well, I put on dad Hagin at our building dedication in Tulsa. Oh, man. So it's like my sermon seems to have flown, and I think dad Hagin's to blame for it. That sermon, that service was landmark service, but I just have a sense of something in the room. So let us just kind of find that. Amen. But whatever that comes out to be, because I don't know yet. Whatever that comes out to be, don't let down the expectation of your need getting talked to and answered. Because when the Holy Ghost gets his way, every need, every answer is available to every need in the room. Does that make sense to you? Amen. And we're learning. We're all learning. I said we're all learning. I certainly don't know it all, because you follow the Holy Ghost. He is so vast that if you start getting this kind of inward, inward. What do you say? Appreciation for your own ability to follow the Holy Ghost. He will jerk a new flow on you so quick just to show you. So I never just settled down in thinking, oh, I know I can predict what he's going to do from here. I can't in that service. Can you give me a little bit more volume? I think, in the monitor for me back there? I can predict, you know, dad Hagin, in that service that I was referring to, I so love this. He's in the middle of prophesying and he says, pastors, stand up. He said God said to minister to the pastors. And then he said, this, minister what? I don't know. He didn't just assume. God said, minister to the pastors. So pastors come up here and I'm going to lay hands on you. He didn't do that yet. He had been in the ministry at that point for well over 60 years. He didn't live on autopilot. That's why he was so fresh and ready to go with what God was doing. So let's not come to a service on autopilot expecting a certain thing to happen. The flow just, you can expect God to meet you. You, but don't expect how he's going to meet you. Don't assume. That's the better word. Don't assume he'll meet your need a certain way. Recently, I think I told it actually at Southwest Believers, how when Ed, the first sermon he ever preached and he was not God kind of sprung it on him at the last minute. He didn't have time to get a sermon together. Right before he was going to a Bible study. God said, told him, you're preaching. So he didn't have time to formulate something, you know. And so he said, he went in and he preached. And he said he preached 15 minutes. 15 minutes. He said it was the worst sermon you ever heard. He said, I messed up my words. It didn't make sense. He said it was just absolutely terrible. And he said he went into a side room after that and he was having it out with God, you know, bossing God around. And at the while he's in that room, there was a knock on the door and it was a little mama who came in. And she said she brought her toddler, her little girl that was of toddler age. And she said, I wanted brother Dufresne to show you my little girl. And he said, well, what about her? Said, well, look at her feet. And he said, well, what about her feet? She said, you don't understand. When we came in the service today, she had. Both of her feet were clubbed feet, they were turned around backwards. She was born that way. Completely, the foot completely turned around. This generation probably hasn't ever seen. I've seen that. But it's something that now, medically, I guess that they can address. They address early on, but that's not always been the case. Her feet were completely turned around backwards on her legs. And said, while you were preaching, God straightened out her feet. And look at her feet. They're completely turned back around, going the right direction in 15 minutes. See, in God's plan, in God's plan, it doesn't have to be an hour service, a two hour service. In God's plan, it's not about the time, it's about who's moving. Amen. And he said, you mean to tell me that she got healed during that sermon? Because he knew how he felt so inadequate in that sermon. But of course he realized it was not his part, it was God's part part, if somebody would just give him place to do it. So that's what we're here tonight. Give God's plan a place to manifest. Not everybody knows to do that, but we're learning. And I don't fault people who don't know to do that. But once we know to do that, we should do that and not just conduct our services on autopilot yet. We know this. There will be many similarities in services, and that's not wrong, but it still needs to be authored by the plan of God for that service. Amen. So are you with me to just do whatever because of. Just because of proximity and room? I'm going to ask you to go ahead and be seated, but don't unhook. Still be engaged as though you're standing. Can I ask you that? And I'm going to have. David and Tony can stay up here. I need a microphone. You say, what you going to do with it? I don't know, but we got a mic. Hallelujah. We praise the Lord, Father. We thank you. I have a sense that there's some utterances that need to come, so we're just going to do that. Amen. We thank you, Father. We praise the Lord. What do you mean some utterances need to come? Well, utterances can come through a sermon, absolutely. But it just seems to me like operations of the gifts of the spirit. And so we'll just do that. Is that all right with you? You want to know why? Because the plan will bless you. The plan will bless you, and the God of the plan will bless you. And that's why I believe people come to these meetings. They're hungry for the word and they're hungry for the spirit, because we need them both. We need them both. Hallelujah. Just lift up your hands right where you're at, and let's worship the Lord. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. We glorify you. We glorify you. I'm going to ask Pastor Noel come up here if you would, and it may be best for you to step up on the platform just so that you can be easily seen and just obey whatever God has in your heart.
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Yes.
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Now, can I say something? If he starts praying in other tongues, hook on, do the same thing. Don't just sit and observe. That's part of engaging in the plan. Amen. Whatever he does, I don't know when.
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The key so by. I see the fire. I see the fire. Been praying for this fire in this place, the fire. And that fire is the glory of God. And in that glory is healing. And in that glory is miracles. That glory is the provision. That glory is Jesus. Jesus is the glory of the Father, the Father and Jesus. Jesus said, give me back my glory. Father, the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. The glory of God, the glory of heaven. Oh, the fire. The fire. Yeah, I see it. Lord, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. It's now. Oh, I declare. We declare the glory of God. We declare the glory of God. The miracle, the miracle. The healing, healing power of God. The glory of God is for the glory of the Father. Yeah. It's for the glory of the Father. Yeah. Thank you, Lord. Yeah. The fire. The fire. Yeah. The fire of God. The fire of God. It's time for the glory of God. It's time for the glory of God. The fire of God. Death tike. So ka in this region. In this region from this place. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh. Oh, yes, Lord. I see that fire in New York. Oh, yeah. Again. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. I see that fire. Yeah. Yeah. So New York is on fire now. Yeah, it's. It's now. It's now. The glory of God. Tap into that glory and the glory is the gift. Jesus is the gift. Oh, yes. He is the gift from the Father. Yeah. Yeah. That glory, that glory is a gift to you. I said, so you say. I receive that glory. Oh, I receive that glory. The glory of the Father. Yeah. Oh.
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Oh.
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Oh, my Lord. Oh, I see that, Lord. I see that glory. I see that glory. Oh, glory in the church. The glorious church. It's coming down from above. Oh, it's yours. It's yours. Aha. It's time. It's time. It's time for the glory. It's time to be. To be. To be received. It's the righteousness of God. Oh, the glory of God. It's time. It's time. It's time. It's time. Yeah, it's time. Oh, my. The mercy of God. The goodness of God. The goodness of God. The mercy of God. The glory of God. Yeah. The ghost. I see. I see. I see it, Lord. And that's so cool. And that's so cool. And that's so cool. And that's so cool. It's time. It's time. It's time. It's time. The fire, the fire. The glory. The glory. The glory. The glory. It's time for the glory of God. It's time now.
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Hallelujah. I want to read to you. This was a vision that was had by Tommy Hicks. Some of you ministers would. How many of you have heard of this? You've read it? I haven't for a while. I want to go back. He delivered it in Winnipeg, Canada, July 25, 1961. Tommy Hicks was a major figure in a revival in 1954 that happened in Argentina. So, it's entitled Vision of the Body of Christ. And the End Time Ministries. He said, my message begins July 25, about 2:30 in the morning at Winnipeg, Canada. I had hardly fallen asleep when the vision and the revelation God gave me came before me. The vision came three times exactly in detail the morning of July 25, 1961. I was so stirred and so moved by the revelation that this has changed my complete outlook upon the body of Christ and upon End Time Ministry Ministries. That's us. That's you. That's us. The greatest thing that the Church of Jesus Christ has ever been given lies straight ahead. It is so hard to help men and women to realize and understand the thing that God is trying to give his people into. The End Times. I received a letter several weeks ago from one of our native evangelists down in Africa. Down in Nairobi, this man and his wife were on their way to. I can't say it. They could neither read nor could they write. But we had been supporting them for over two years. As they entered into the territory of this region, they came across a small village. The entire village was evacuating because a plague had hit that village so hard. He came across natives that were weeping and he asked them what was wrong. They told him of their mother and father who had suddenly died and had been dead for three days. They had to leave. They were afraid to go in and they were leaving them in the cottage. He turned and asked them where they were. They pointed to the hut and he asked them to go with him, but they refused. They were afraid to go. The native and his wife went to this little cottage and entered in where the man and woman had been dead for three days. He simply stretched forth his hand in the name of Jesus Christ and spoke the man's name in the woman's name and said, in the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to come back to your bodies. Instantaneously, these two heathen people who had never known Jesus Christ as their savior sat up and began to praise God. The spirit and power of God came into life of those people. To us, that may seem strange and a phenomenon, but that is the beginning of these End Time Ministries. Now listen to it. God is going to take the do nothings, the nobodies, the unheard of, the no accounts. And he's going to take every man and every woman and he is going to give them this outpouring of the Spirit of God. In the Book of Acts, we read that in the last days God said, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh. I wonder if we realize what he meant when God said, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh. I do not think I fully realized, nor could I understand the fullness of it. And then I read from the Book of Joel. Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God. For he hath given you the former rain moderately and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain and the latter rain. It is not only going to be the rain, the former rain and the latter rain, but he is going to give to his people in these last days a double portion of the power of God. I want to let me kind of scan through here and see if I can get immediately, because there's so much of this. As a vision appeared before me after I was asleep, I suddenly found myself in a great high distance. Where I was, I do not know, but I was looking down upon the earth. Suddenly the whole earth came into my view. Every nation, every kindred, every tongue came before my sight from the east and the west, the north and the south. I recognized every country and many cities that I had been in. And I was almost in fear and trembling as I beheld the great sight before me. And at that moment when the world came into view, it began to lightning and thunder. As the lightning flashed over the face of the earth, my eyes went downward and I was facing the north. Suddenly I beheld what looked like a great giant. And as I stared and looked at it, I was almost bewildered by the sight. It was so gigantic and so great. His feet seemed to stretch to the North Pole and his head to the South Pole. Its arms were stretched from sea to sea. I could not even begin to understand whether this be a mountain or this be a giant. But as I watched, I suddenly beheld. It was a great giant. I could see his head was struggling for life. He wanted to live. But his body was covered with debris from head to foot. And at times, this great giant would move his body and act as though it would even rise up at times. And when it did, thousands of little creatures seemed to run away. Hideous creatures would run away from this giant. And when he would become calm, those hideous creatures would come back to the giant. All of a sudden, this great giant lifted his hand toward heaven. And then it lifted its other hand. And when it did, these creatures by the thousands seemed to flee away from this giant and go into the darkness of the night. Slowly, this great giant began to rise. And as he did, his head and hands went into the clouds. As he rose to his feet, he seemed to have cleansed Himself from the debris and the filth that was upon him. And he began to raise his hands into the heavens as though praising the Lord. And as he raised his hands, they went even under the clouds. Suddenly every cloud became silver. The most beautiful silver I had ever known. As I watched this phenomenon, it was so great, I could not even begin to understand what it all meant. I was so stirred as I watched. And I cried unto the Lord and said, lord, what is the meaning of this? And I felt as if I was actually in the Spirit and could feel the presence of the Lord even as I was asleep. And from these clouds, suddenly there came great drops of liquid light raining down upon this mighty giant. And slowly, slowly, this giant began to melt. Began to sink itself into the very earth itself. And he melted. His whole form seemed to have melted upon the face of the earth. And this great rain began to come down. Liquid drops of light began to flood the very earth itself. As I watched this giant that seemed to melt, suddenly it became millions of people all over the face of the earth. As I beheld the sight before me. People stood up all over the world. They were lifting their hands and praising God. At that very moment, there came a great thunder that seemed to roar from the heavens. I turned my eyes toward the heavens. And suddenly I saw a figure in white, glistening white. The most glorious thing I'd ever seen in my entire life. I did not see the face, but somehow I knew it was the Lord Jesus Christ. And he stretched forth his hand. And as he did, he would stretch it forth to one and to another and to another of the people. And as he stretched forth his hand upon the nations and the people of the world, men and women, as he pointed toward them, this liquid light seemed to flow from his hands into them. And a mighty anointing of God came upon them. And those people began to go forth in the name of the Lord. I do not know how long I watched it. It seemed it went into days and weeks and months. And I beheld this Christ as he continued to stretch forth his hand. But there was a tragedy. There were many people as he stretched forth his hand that refused the anointing of God. They refused the call of God. I saw men and women that I knew personally. People that I felt would certainly receive the call of God. But as he stretched forth his hand toward this one and toward that one, they simply bowed their heads and began to step back away from Him. And each of those that seemed to bow down and go back away seemed to go into darkness. Darkness seemed to Swallow them everywhere. I was bewildered as I watched it. But these people that he had anointed, thousands, hundreds of thousands of people all over the world, in Africa, England, Russia, China, America, all over the world. The anointing of God was upon these people as they went forward. In the name of the Lord. I saw these men and women as they went forth. They were ditch diggers, they were washer women, they were rich men, they were poor men. I saw people who were bound with paralysis and sickness and blindness and deafness. As the Lord stretched forth to give them this anointing, they became well, they became healed, and they went forth. And this is the miracle of it. This is the glorious miracle of it. Those people would stretch forth their hands exactly as the Lord did. And it seemed as if there was that same liquid fire in their hands. As they stretched forth their hands, they said, according to my word, be thou made whole. As these people continued in this mighty end time ministry, I did not fully realize what it was. And I looked to the Lord and said, what is the meaning of this? And he said, this is that which I will do in the last days. I will restore all that the cankerworm, the palmer worm and the caterpillar has eaten will restore all that they have discovered. This my people in the end times will go forth as a mighty army. They will sweep over the face of the earth. As I was at this great height, I could behold the whole world. I watched these people as they were going to and fro over the face of the earth. Suddenly there was a man in Africa. And in a moment he was transported by the spirit of God. And perhaps he was now in Russia or China or America or some other place. All over the world these people went, and they came through fire. They came through pestilence, through famine. Neither fire nor persecution. Nothing seemed to stop them. Angry mobs came to them with swords and with guns. And like Jesus, they passed through the multitudes and they could not be found. But they went forth in the name of the Lord. And everywhere they stretched forth their hands. The sick were healed, the blind eyes were opened. There was not a long prayer that they made. And after I had reviewed the vision many times, and I thought about it many times, I realized I never saw a church building. I never saw or heard a denomination. These people were going in the name of the Lord. As they marched forth, Everything they did as the ministry of Christ. In the end times, these people were ministering to the multitudes. Tens of thousands, even millions seemed to come to the Lord Jesus. As these People, people stood forth and gave the message of the kingdom. It was so glorious that it seemed as that there were those that rebelled and they would become angry and they tried to attack these workers that were giving the message. But God is going to give the world a demonstration in this last hour. As the world has never known, these men and women are of all walks of life. Degrees will mean nothing in this flow. I saw these workers as they were going over the face of the earth. When one would stumble and fall, another would come and pick him up. There was no big I and little U, but every mountain was brought low and every valley was brought high. And they seemed to have one thing in common. There was a divine love. A divine love that seemed to flow forth from these people as they worked together, as they lived together. It was the most glorious sight I'd ever seen. Jesus was the theme of their life. They continued. And it seemed the days went by. As I stood and beheld this sight. I could only cry. And sometimes I would even laugh as I saw the sight. It was so wonderful as these people went throughout the face of the whole earth, bringing forth in these last end times. Hallelujah. As I watched from the very heaven itself, there were times when great deluges of liquid light seemed to fall upon great congregations. And that congregation would lift up their hands and seemingly praise God. For hours and even days, as the Spirit of God came on them. God said, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh. And that is exactly this that I saw. And to every man and woman that received this power and the anointing of God, the miracles of God, there was no ending to it. Suddenly there was a great clap of thunder that seemed to resound around the world. And I heard again the voice, the voice that seemed to speak now, this is my people. This is my beloved bride. And when the voice spoke, I looked upon the earth and I could see the lakes and the mountains. The graves were opened and people from all over the world, the saints of all ages, were rising. And as they rose from the grave. And suddenly all these people came from every direction, from the east, the west, the north and the south. And they were forming again, this gigantic body. As the dead in Christ seemed to be rising first, I could hardly comprehend it. It was so marvelous. It was so far beyond anything I could ever dream or think of. But as this body suddenly began to take form and to take shape again, it took shape again in the form of this mighty giant. But this, it was different. It was arrayed in the most beautiful, gorgeous White. Its garments were without spot and wrinkle as its body began to form. And the people of all ages seemed to be gathered into this body. And slowly, slowly, as it began to form up into the very heavens. Suddenly, from the heavens above, the Lord Jesus came and became the head of this body. And I heard another clap of thunder and said, this is my beloved bride for whom I have waited. She will come forth even tried by fire. This is she that I have loved from the beginning of time. And then he goes on and he talks about what would happen after that. But did you hear about that? Did you see that? Did you listen to that? It's not just ministers. It's everyone who will respond. Just responding, just responding. I want to see it. I don't just want to see it. I want to be available to him in it. Amen. God, don't leave us out. God, don't leave us out. And I don't want it to pass to the next generation just because this generation was unresponsive or because we were unskilled and did not recognize how to move and respond with him. Amen. Hallelujah. We believe it. We believe it. We believe it. The fullness of it. The fullness of it. The fullness of it. Not just a measure of it, but the fullness. Father, we thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you, Father. Hallelujah. We worship you. We worship you. We worship you. We glorify you. Just pray in the Holy Ghost for a moment, if you would. Just pray in the Holy Ghost, a moment, if you would. Let me say this to us. I say it to ministers, I say it to congregations before the opportunity for increase comes. And I'm talking about for greater moves of God. We need to take advantage of the times like these to become skillful because there's coming a momentum that we won't have time to be at beginning stages in. It talks about the prophet that walked in up to his ankles, walked in the water up to his knees, his thighs, then waters to swim in, when waters to swim in. Come. It's not time to be trying to learn how to swim. And I'm just saying ministers and pastors that are behind in knowing the flow of the Spirit, let's catch up. Let's catch up. I said let's catch up. Because there's not going to be time to learn it when it's time to move in it. When it's time to. When it's time to drive a car, you better put the manual down right in the sense of there has to be a skill set in place. Hallelujah. That's one of the things in my heart for the Miracle Crusades. Number one was to meet the needs of the people. Number two is to demonstrate and move together for us as a company, to train together, learn together. Congregations learning together, not just one congregation, but many congregations learning how to cooperate with God in these greater things and these greater flows. Because we don't want to be ones who have to step back out of ignorance and not recognize what he's doing, not even recognize it. Some have, but not us. I said not us. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. Pastor Jay, come up here, if you would, and just follow whatever God, whatever he puts in your heart.
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I keep thinking up out of my spirit. We helped in Kenneth Hagin Ministries Healing School for, I forget how many years. But one of the most famous stories there that place was when Brother Hagin, in a particular Healing School class, before we got there, was ministering and during the praise and worship. I noticed in that vision that all started when those people, that giant, lifted up his hands. In one sense of the Word, they're lifting up their hands praising God, but in another sense of the word, they're reaching, responding, responding for what God was making available to them and receiving it. And I was thinking of. When you were sharing that, I was thinking of this story in Healing School. Brother Hagin, the vision for Healing School was of course, ministering divine healing to the sick. But he also said the vision was for raising up divine healing technicians. And so he would demonstrate, he would go the spirit of God, like Pastor Nancy's doing for us, moving as the Spirit of God would move him. And at times there would be. God dealt with him. It was a school, and it wasn't just a place for praise and worship, but at times they would just get into the presence of God, just lift their hands and worship God. And Brother Hagin said in this one particular incident, when they all did that, he said he saw the cloud. I saw it slightly up here tonight on the platform, the cloud of God's glory. And he said, that cloud just came in and just hung over the people's heads. And Brother Hagin said, the glory is here in manifestation. You know, we know it's here all the time, but it's here in manifestation. And he said, you're in that glory is everything you need, whatever you need, just reach up, reach up and receive it. Yes, receive it and respond to it. So many people did that. There Was a lady there that had had seven surgeries on her throat. They had. I think she had.
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Had accidentally slit her esophagus.
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Yeah, they had accidentally in a previous surgery slit her esophagus. And in trying to repair that, had seven different times tried to go back in there and repair that. They never had succeeded. And she couldn't eat a solid bite of food. But in that glory, she just. When Brother Hagin said is healed, she.
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Was on feeding tubes. Remember the tubes up her nose?
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Yes. She couldn't eat solid food. And in that glory, she just reached up and she said, I take my healing. And Brother Hagin said he saw her pull those tubes out of her nose and she was completely healed. She went out and ate a full. I don't remember what kind of Mexican street. Yeah, Full Mexican dinner.
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Two Monterey House. Monterey House, two dinners.
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Glory to God. Glory to God. That's what if I could sew. She doesn't like to sit drawn to it. But that's what God's using Pastor Nancy and others to bring us back into. And we're in it. I said we're in it. Brother Hagin saw this is in tongues, I believe Tongues. The upper room. It's one of the last chapters. I don't remember which chapter it is. He saw another wave coming and he said, what do we do? He said, paddle out and get on that wave. Paddling out and getting on that wave is prayer. That's what we've been doing. And I'm telling that wave is. Remember, Dr. Dufresne saw the same thing. Hallelujah. I have in my spirit. Just a couple of weeks ago, after Pastor Nancy preached that service, she referred to in our church, the pace of peace. Something happened in me and I slowed down. And God's been dealing with me about that. And he gave me a passage of scripture. I'm not going to take time to look.
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Look at it.
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But Isaiah, chapter number. I believe it's chapter number 30, where God said to some people who were going Israel, who were going to Egypt for their help and their deliverance, he said, that's not going to help you. He said, your strength is to sit still. I believe we're going to have services. Whether it's the flow for tonight, I'll just let Pastor discern that. But where we sit in the presence of God, Remember in Azusa street, they did that.
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Today.
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You got to be careful letting people do that. Their minds will wander. But if we can get to the place where we sit still and let the glory of God just move in waves. People won't even have hands laid on healings. Pop like popcorn because of the glory of God's there. I want you to just reach up. There's some people in here. You have pain in your body right now. And if you'll just let me, Let me say something. Some of you have anxiously been looking for the cure. Your strength, your healing is to sit still and lift up. Reach up and take hold. Come on. Some of you need to do that right now. That presence is in here. There's some people in pain, particularly that pain. The healing of that pain is in the glory right now. Hallelujah. And just do like that lady did. Say, I take it. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Say, I say it in faith. I take it. I take it. My healing, my freedom from pain. I take it now. Hallelujah. I said hallelujah. Come on, let's raise our hands and thank him because you took hold of it. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Praise. Like praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Pastor Laketic, come up here. Just whatever God tells you.
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Yeah.
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When Pastor Noel was praying and he was praying for Canada, then he said New York, he said New York was on fire, I was reminded of a vision I had in many other said that New York is on fire. And I want to testify about that. So I don't have the date currently on this, but I was caught up in the spirit and in the vision. I found myself in the midst of ministers and they were praying and the word of the Lord came to me. The audible voice of the Holy Ghost came to me and said, son of man. Now he's never referred to me as the son of man. This is the first time he ever said to me, you read that in the book of Ezekiel, usually the word of the Lord comes. He just says something, but he says, son of man. And he said this. He said, prophesy thou to this nation. And so in the prayer meeting, I faced towards the west because, you know, I'm in the east coast. Most of the nation is in the west coast. And I figured that's where I'm going to prophesy. But I remember that so distinctly in the vision. But you said, no son of man prophesying thou to the east coast coast of this nation.
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Yeah.
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And he said, he said, hear ye. And I began to prophesy and says, hear ye, Hear ye of the word of the Lord. And I prophesied about the glory of God sweeping this nation, sweeping the east and going across the west and about the things written in the book of Joel. And I pondered about that. Why the east? You remember when Brother Hagin would have the visions of the frogs?
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Yes.
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Everything happens in the east and it goes to the west. It's divine order. The sun rises where in the east and sets in the west. And when Pastor Noel said New York is on fire because we prophesy things are head but it is on fire. I tell you, the fire has fallen. We just had a youth conference and I should have my youth leaders tell tell this, but we had over 80 youth there and that the topic was the Holy Ghost and being filled with the Holy Ghost, life of the spir. And then last night the kids were so hungry, God, at midnight they're crying out, we want to be filled. The Holy Ghost. And they started getting filled with the Holy Ghost, the glory God. And went on for three hours. Kids were on their faces crying out God. Kids were having visions and drunk in the spirit. And it just like the things you read about. And the beautiful thing is there wasn't a senior pastor there. It was some of the people we've taught and they knew how to flow in the spirit. And whenever believers are getting together to sing the spirit of God has fallen, prophecies, tongue interpretation and you know they're coming to me. Is this okay? I said, this is what I've been training you for the past 20 years. And they were surprised that God was using them, not just the ministers. So it's here, it's here, it's flowing. Just tap into it and enjoy the fullness. And don't be surprised. You find yourself in the move of God and time is no essence. Once you're in the presence of the Lord, you forget about time and God will do the miraculous. Praise the Lord.
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Praise the Lord. Just because we don't see it with our eyes doesn't mean it's not in other locations. Smith Wigglesworth prophesied to Dr. Sumrall. Dr. Sumrall was laying hands on. Excuse me, Smith Wigglesworth was laying hands on Dr. Sumrall and he prophesied about the healing wave because that had this was in the 40s. The healing revival didn't happen start till 1957. He prophesied about the charismatics, the charismatic wave. He then prophesied about the word of faith. And then he said then there's one last great move of God. And he prophesied about the that. He said this last great move of God will be all previous revivals wrapped up into One. That's what's in front of us. That's what we're. We're moving in in a measure. Amen. Well, praise the Lord. So he said to Smith, he. Smith Wigglesworth said to Dr. Sumrall, he said, I won't see it. But he said, but you'll see it. Dr. Sumrall said, I've been to China. He was an apostle to the nations. And he says, I've been to China and I've seen them. They just. It becomes a common occurrence that they're raising people from the dead over there in the underground church. It's a common occurrence. He said, I've seen it in the underground churches. See, we don't really realize because we don't always see it with our eyes. We think it's not happening. It's happening. I said, it's happening. It's happening. Pastor Craig, what you got? You got something?
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Can I just read what pastors just said? Can I read it, Pastor? Yeah, Smith Wigglesworth. Speaking to Lester Sumrall, Wigglesworth cried, saying, I probably won't see you again now. My job is almost finished. As he continued to pray, he cried, I see it. I see it. Brother Sumral asked, what do you see? What do you see? He said, I see a healing revival coming right after World War II. It'll be so easy to get people healed. I see it. I see it. I won't be here for it, but you will be. And there was a healing revival after the war. He continued to prophesy, I see another one. I see people of all different denominations being filled with the Holy Ghost. And that was the charismatic revival. God raised up people during that era like full gospel businessmen. Dr. Sumral is commenting on these words. Then Brother Wigglesworth continued, I see another move of God. I see auditoriums full of people coming with notebooks. And there will be a wave of teaching on faith and healing. And we have seen and experienced what he saw. And we called it the Word of Faith movement or the teaching movement. Then he prophesied, quote, after that, after the third wave, and he started to sob. I see the last day revival that's going to usher in the precious fruit of the earth. It will be the greatest revival this world has ever seen. It's going to be a wave of the gifts of gifts of the spirit. The ministry gifts will be flowing on this planet earth. I see hospitals being emptied out and they will bring the sick to the churches where they allow the Holy Ghost to move. Let me just bear with me I just want to read one more thing. Jesus appeared to dad Hagen and said, all the gifts of the Spirit will be in operation in the church in these last days. And the church will do greater things than even the early church did. It will have greater power, signs and wonders than were recorded and even the acts of the apostles. He said that we have been and we have seen and experienced many healings. But now in the end days, we will behold amazing miracles that have never been seen before. Jesus continued, more and more miracles will be performed in the last days which are just ahead. For it is the time of the gift, of the working of miracles. That's what Jesus said to dad Hagin. And lastly, a lot of people don't know that William Branham, before he died, you know, he was a prophet and he missed it in some areas, but he prophesied this just a couple weeks before he died. Sorry. A few months before he died, he was having lunch with a young minister who played the organ for him. And he said this to the minister. I've been in this season where we laid hands on people one at a time and we saw blind eyes open. Yes, we saw cancers disappear and the lame walk and oh, it was wonderful. But I am about to leave you because God is done with me. But another season is coming and this season is going to be teaching and revelation of the word of Jesus Christ, who we are in him and who he is in us. It's about Jesus in us and us in him. And this teaching season will go for a while and then it will come to a close. And then God is going to take every move of God in the history of the earth and even what we have witnessed and what we saw in Bible days. And he will put it all together in one great holy ghost bomb and drop it on planet earth. And the nations will rock and reel with the power of God like we've never seen on prime time news. Not the late night talk shows, but prime time news. They will show the dead being raised. They will show limbs being created and eyes being put back into eye sockets and arms stretching out that were withered. And preachers won't lay hands on them like we did. They will simply speak the word and blindness will leave. There'll be so many people that know auditorium, no church and no arena will be able to hold the people. And they won't be tents to hold the people. They'll even stand in open fields. It's going to happen in America, my friends. God is going to bring the ministry of the apostles and the prophets to the forefront.
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It's so important that we rehearse these things. It is so important that we rehearse these things to build them in us. Why did the first generation of Hebrews delivered out of Egypt not arrive? They didn't rehearse what God said to them. They didn't build what God said to them in them. When he said, I've given you a land that flows with milk and honey, they didn't build that in them. So they never arrived. I don't want us not to arrive at these places because we didn't build this in us. Amen. Hallelujah. And it does matter that we hunger for these things. Is it any wonder that before the last great revival was an outpouring of revelation on faith? Because all of this is done by faith. It's all done by faith. It's all done by faith. And to not to dismiss the role of faith is to fall behind. There are pastors who have tried to, if I could say this, build a church and a ministry at the cost of the anointing and of the Spirit of God. They've had listening to one talk about that they grew up in the Word and Spirit setting. But when the next generation came and took the church, took over the leadership of the church, they said, you know, we're not going to have any of the Holy Ghost move because that offends people. That's what he said. He said, my wife invited our neighbors and there was a move of the Spirit in the service and the neighbors did not like it and they won't even talk to us anymore. So you mean you're going to build and base your church on somebody who doesn't care about God and doesn't care they weren't even saved yet. They're catering to people who have no hunger and they're stepping back. We, my husband always said this. What you do to get them is what you got to do to keep them. You get them by giving away stuff, you get them by doing things, outreaches and all these things, social work, then that's what you're going to have to do to keep them. He said, if you get them with the Word, get them with the Word. Get them with the Word. Get them with the Word and the move of the Spirit. Don't cater to people who aren't hungry for more. Don't. If I could say this, dumb down your church and your ministry. Teach the people. Teach the people to be hungry for it. Teach them that it belongs to them in Christ to Move with the Word and the Spirit. Teach them that. And then if they don't want it, go on and find somebody else who wants it. But don't dumb down and step back from what God's doing just to try to gather a crowd of people who aren't interested in what God's doing. Not trying to build a ministry. It's not my goal. I'm just obeying God. Just obey God. And what gets built is up to God. Amen. He's the builder of the thing. I've never. Get rid of all ambition to build your church. Get rid of all ambition to build it. Because ambition isn't God anyway. It's a natural human carnal affection. Is that to be driven by ambition? I just want what God's doing. I want to be right in the middle of it and in whatever way. It doesn't matter to me if he turned me into a church secretary. Doesn't matter to me. Just so long I'm where God tells me to be. In fact, I would have preferred being a church secretary at times. I like going to say staples and getting all the organization stuff. I'll organize your life for you. I'll do more than organize your desk. I'll organize your life. So don't ever step back from what God's doing just because of people who don't know. Teach them, teach them, teach them. Amen. And teach them. Don't be left out. Don't be left out. Pastor Edwin Anderson. Come up here and just do whatever God tells you to do.
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Do you see yourself with these things? Do you see it for another time, another place, maybe even a few years? Or do you see yourself? We hear people speak of what God will do. We hear people who've prophesied of what God will do. And not just through men and women of note and men and women that people know and respect, but through people that no one knows and no one thought could have a word and could do anything. God will move in these last days through people who are hungry and for people who will be willing to see themselves as God sees them. Instead of seeing yourself the way your family sees you, the way your upbringing has cast an image for you. Instead of seeing yourself as not having and not worthy and not able begin to see yourself the way God sees you. These are the last days. We are in the last days. God has brought us to this time. He has spoken these words through men and women for generations now about the times in which we're living right now. Are we going to take what We've heard and agree with it. Are we going to take it and say, well, I wish I could. I would love to, and I think someone else could do it? No. The hour has come. Like the vision said, that men and women of all sorts, not just the preachers, but people who are called of God because they've been born of the Spirit of God and equipped with the power of God. And they don't have a name and they don't have a ministry, but they have the power of God on the inside. And it's for these times that we've been called, we have to begin church. You have to begin to see yourself the way God sees you. Humble yourself. Humility is not looking at yourself and saying, well, I could never. Yeah, I could never. It must be someone else. I just could. It's not about you. It's about the one who's in you. And it's about the one who called you and raised you up. And greater is he who is in you than your image of yourself. Greater is he who is in you than what other people think of you. These are the times to come in alignment with what God has said about us about you and about you and about you. What does the Word say? Who are you in Christ? Are you not one with Christ? Have you not been born of the Spirit of God? Have you not been placed in the body for a purpose and for a function? Let us all rise up and fulfill that purpose and that function in these last days. And we'll see the glory of God. And we'll see the move of God. And we'll see the fulfillment of the plan of God because we have submitted ourselves. Don't be haughty and draw back. Don't be proud and pull away, but instead humble yourself and step into that place.
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The Word says that Jesus declared. He said that the Father is seeking true worshipers. Can I tell you what true worship worshipers are? They worship with their life, how they live their life, their daily life. Romans 12, verse 1. Present your bodies to God. A living sacrifice. How you handle your body, where you take your body, what you do with your body is to be a form of worship. And then the next verse. Be not conformed to the but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. What you do with your thought life is a form of worship. Is to be a form of worship. Amen. Hallelujah. When God is looking for submitted bodies and renewed minds. Hallelujah. And we have to be renewed to our place in this last day we have to renew our minds to it, feed on it, talk about it, expect it. God uses me. God uses me not because of me, but because he's in me for a purpose. The Word says, lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Every believer will give an account as they stand before Jesus. Did they do that? That's the only place we see in the Bible where Christians are commanded to lay hands on someone. Many are laying hands on people for what they shouldn't be laying hands on them, for. They're not authorized to do that. But every believer is authorized to lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Dad Hagin talked about the different ones that he came across during his years of ministry, Just laymen in the church. But they took that as their personal commission. And they became so skilled at laying hands on the sick that everybody in that region, they had such recognition in that region that if you get sick, call sister such and such, you get sick, call brother such. I'm talking about the unsaved people because they were changing their communities, because they made themselves available not just to fulfill their profession, but to fulfill the plan of God in the day they lived in. Amen. David, where are you? Come up here. Come up here. It's your turn, brother. Whatever. Do whatever you have.
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I think I have.
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Yeah, do it.
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Singers, come up here. I've got the first part. Somebody else might have the second part. Can you bring my piano up a flat? That's what I heard while Brother Noah was praying. It's time for the glory. Let your glory fall on me.
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It's time for your glory.
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Glory for.
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The world to see.
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It's time for the glory.
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Let your.
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Glory fall on me.
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You know what, Pastor Nancy?
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That line.
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Sometimes I want to say, it's time for your glory. Let your glory fall on me. But while I was back there, I was bouncing back and forth between, let your glory fall on me and let your glory rise on me. So I knew you were getting ready to go, and I was like, I don't know which one to say. I don't know if it's falling or rising. I don't know if it's coming from both directions.
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Directions.
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From within and upon. Makes sense.
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So that's the part I got somebody like, here we go.
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It's time for the glory. It's time for the glory. Let your glory fall on me. It is time for your glory.
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The world.
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Glory for the world to see. It is time for the glory Let your glory fall on me.
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It's time.
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It's time for the glory Let your glory fall on me oh, it's time for signs and wonders to flow it's time to step into a greater A greater knowing which way to go oh, it's time for his glory to reign supreme it's time to step in, time to go it's time to flow it's time the glory Let your glory fall on me it is time for your glory. Step out, step in Step into his presence Step into the glory of God say this has been prepared for this time for me I lift my hands, I lift my voice I receive that precious glory oh, we stepping come on, we stepping we step in we step in victory. Let your glory fall Let your glory fall on me it is time for your glory.
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Can I just give you a moment of instruction? When you come into a setting and you might not be as familiar with the flow, don't just stand back and watch. Imitate what the people who know the flow or do. Does that make sense? That's part of learning. But just to stand there and do what you've always done. Because sometimes, you know, people just, they just kind of are in the habit of standing there. And I'm just saying, pay attention. If you're hungry, you don't want to just stand there and act like, I'm not a good, good student of the room. I'm going to watch. That's what we did with dad Hagin. Dad Hagin would tell us, you know, especially during times when he was leading a prayer, prayer segment of the service, and he would say, close your eyes and don't look at me and let's pray. And I would open my eyes and look at him and pray. Because I was instructed by some seeing what he did, not just hearing what he said. What did he do with his body? You know, I was talking to someone recently and they were discussing the possibility of a certain person being hired. And I said, not interested. And I tell you why. I saw the way they held their body when a man of God was praying. They were quite indifferent. They were like this. The man of God was praying. Can you see? Let me. Yeah, exactly. The man of God was praying. And they were just doing this. And I said, won't hire them. They don't have honor for what God's doing. When a man of God prays and you just stand there, You need to know something more. I'm not talking to baby Christians. I'm talking about this person had been around the minister for a long time. And we just standing there. I didn't like the way he wasn't circumspect and how he held. I'm not talking about being religious. I'm talking about realizing what we're dealing with, who we're dealing with. So when you come into a place and you might not be well acquainted, just be instructed by watching what those who know God do and do it. But to just stand there adamantly, just going to do what you do, God wants more for you. He wants to bring you in. And I'm not even really saying this to the majority of this congregation. I'm just saying it for a select few to help you. Amen. We thank you, Father. We glorify you. Sing it one more time.
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It's time for the glory Let your glory fall on me this time for your glory Everyone to see.
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Let your glory fall.
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Let your glory fall on me Let your glory Let your glory Let your glory, glory. Let your glory fall Let your glory fall Let your glory fall on me Let your glory fall Let your glory fall Let your glory fall on me. Oh, your glory Let your glory.
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To see.
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One more time. It's time for the glory Let your glory fall on me it's time for the glory Glory for the world Glory for the world to see Glory for the world to see.
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Let your glory.
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Let your glory come.
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Hallelujah. And I want to have Tony, you just take over the keyboard there. And David, you come, you come. You okay with that? Okay. Okay. Grab the microphone. I. It seems to me you can take this one. You can take this one. Tongues and interpretation. I don't know if it's. I think it's more personal. Just follow and I'll follow you.
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I did have this in my heart. And this may come. This is not for those in five fold ministry. I am blessed to be helper. In the last days, you touched on this, Pastor. What do you see yourself do? It's easy to look at the front row and you see all these wonderful ministers. If you are a singer, a player, someone that helps like I do. If you only understood how big of a help you can be. If you only understood how critical.
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That.
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Little place has little. Little songs and little things. They're bridges and connectors to a higher flow. And then you do your part and then you hand off to a higher office.
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That office, now that's the key right there. Don't do it all when you prepared it for the higher office. Greater blessing will flow through the higher office once you arrive at that point.
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Greater. Did you hear what she said? I liked it so much. I want her to say it again. But see those higher graces and higher offices. How many times have you just stood there? You know there's something, you know there's more but you need a little, you.
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Need help getting there.
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A stair?
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Yeah.
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A step.
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Yeah.
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It's a big jump. But you just need a little, a little somebody.
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Anyway. Just a helper.
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So what Pastor, what do you see yourself to? Well, you know, I'm not a five fold minister or I don't do this. If you only understood this move of God that was talked about, read about, rehearsed, seen by other prophets, prophesied in our day. You have such a pivotal place, you have such a God given grace. So this is all that was in my heart. You can.
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The thing is, can I tell you this, There are a lot of people trying to fill a fivefold offices because they don't value the help enough to be a helper. They misunderstand and they devalue the help. The value of being a help. Can I tell you this? The Holy Spirit is called the helper. He's not there to fulfill his will. He's there to fulfill the will of God. He's not there to say what he thinks. He's there to impart God's mind. He does nothing of himself. He just takes of God and puts it in us. Who of us could succeed without him? The helper. No one ministries can't succeed without right help. Some and I'm not just saying people in this room, it may be people in this room but even people watching and people who would listen to this tape. Some people need to get out of the ambition of a five fold ministry and wanting their own and get in a local church and help the man who's anointed for that office. Then what happens? Many times then there comes an emphasis on the help. And so they start devaluing and dismissing the fivefold and say, well it's all the help the body. No, we still need both. We need both because there had been past moves where people, God was trying to emphasize the importance and the place of being a help in the body of Christ to the man of God. And so they started dealing with devaluing the five fold ministries. We don't need to devalue any of it. Any of it. And the Holy Ghost being called the Helper. Being a helper is worthy of the Godhead. And so when people think it's beneath them, that it's not important or they've let their ambition reach beyond being a helper, Never let your ambition reach beyond what God has for you. That's so dangerous. It's so dangerous. It's dangerous to try to pastor a church if you're not called to be pastor. Because there are people who come to your church that think they have a pastor and they don't. And they're susceptible now to the enemy because they think they have a pastor and they don't. How do you know? There should be the fruit, showing the fruit, showing that pastoral office, the fruit, it will grow, it will show the fruit of that. But some people, they get stuck on this idea that they think they have to have their own. You don't have to have anything except what God authors for. You don't lay more value on an office than you lay on the plan of God for your life. Because then you'll start clamoring for an office and step out of the plan of God to fulfill a natural desire for your own. I'm just saying my husband and I've seen it for years and years and years, many pastors have seen the damage done, the damage done, the devastation to families by not valuing being a helper. And people have something in their heart and they think that because something is really pronounced in their heart that it must mean fivefold. And just because it's pronounced doesn't mean it's fivefold. Dad Hagin tells a wonderful, absolutely wonderful testimony. He said there was this woman, that she was part of a church and she wanted to do something for God. So she assumed that meant fivefold. She tried to start a church, made a mess out of it, got into financial difficulty, affected other families, affected people. And then she realized the fruit that isn't there of the office, so she closed it down and she just became part of another church without any ambition. And the pastor trained her and said she went out from that church, ministered to so many people, just day by day out in daily life, said she filled the church up as a helper so the pastor now had sheep that his office could bless. And said because she thought it was all about her own, her own, her own, her own, she misidentified that. Can I assume that. Can I tell you this? When God wants to find someone to put in the five fold ministry, you know where he goes? He goes to the helps ministry to find someone serving. That's where my husband, God called him to the office, to the place he was at when he was serving and cleaning in his local church, being a helper and content to just be invisible. So I'm Saying get rid of ambition because it can. I want something big. Stop that. You have someone big, big in you. And I would just say in this, in this hour, it's very critical that people not be in a place they shouldn't be. And I appreciate David talking about being a helper because the reason people seek something more than what God's called them to is because they devalue the helps ministry. But can I tell you this? When Moses lifted up his arms during a time of battle, if those two men had to been there helping, it would have mean the difference between defeat and victory if someone wasn't there helping. Many churches and pastors have failed because people wouldn't help. Not because they weren't called, but because people wouldn't help. Some are apostles, Ephesians, some apostles, some prophets, not many. Some. There's only some that occupy these offices. What are the others? They're to help the some. Why are there more ministry of helps than five fold ministries? Because their work is so important. God needs more of them. I cannot tell you how much every single person who serves in their local church what that means to heaven and to the earth. But see, we just think it's, I'm clocking in, I'm cleaning this, I'm cleaning that. Anything you do for his glory, it doesn't stay earthbound. Prize. Honor your role. Treat it as though you were just invited to serve one of the highest offices in the land. Because I guarantee you there is no higher office than the five fold offices. And we get to work and move together in fulfilling God's plan. Amen. Hallelujah. How the devil keeps so many people in all kinds of difficulty because he gives them the. He helps them have the mindset of devaluing being a helper. And can I tell you this? My highest role was not for 29 years. My highest role, I pastored for 25 years of those. The highest role I played was not pastor. The highest role I played was to help my husband. I was his helper. I was his helper before I was a pastor. I was his helper before I was the administrator of the ministry. I was a helper first. Why I did not devalue, just helping him fulfill what's in him. A helper is so grounded in. It's not about me, it's about the one, the vision I'm helping. And that's why some people won't take that because they're self minded in their ambition instead of plan minded in God's plan to be a helper. You lay down you. But what Jesus say, He said, the greatest in heaven is who? The servant. He came and he served. Hallelujah. Well, you set that one off. It's so important. It's so important. Do you know that there are people that get healed in our services that wouldn't be healed if this man and this crew didn't show up? Because it takes certain anointings to bring another anointing into play. And if you hadn't have been here to clean the building, they couldn't be here to do what they do. It's a domino effect that doesn't begin with the head. It begins with the helper. The ministry of help. What happens in these services does not begin in the pulpit. It begins before we even arrive, with people who. The unseen roles that they played. Amen. But that's how God sees it. Ambition sees the top. No. There's so much supporting that. What an honor that God allows us to have a part. What an honor. What an honor. What an honor. Dad Hagin used to say all the time, some of these people need to come off the road from preaching. Some of these people need to shut down their churches and get with a pastor and help them, help them, help them, help them, help them get plugged in and help. But because they have it stuck in their head that it's something different, they're missing the obvious. You get that? They're missing the obvious. Well, we need to be in position for this last day. Amen. To flow as God would have us to flow. Father, we thank you. We thank you. We glorify you. We magnify you. Now hear this. Lay down your pen and pencil and your paper that you plan and you scheme and you organize and you calculate. And pick up this divine gift of speaking in other tongues and start speaking out by divine utterance the plan for your life instead of calculating on paper, the plan for your life. Because that paper will cheat you, your mind will cheat you. But the divine One on the inside will enlighten you. And he will bring you into an understanding to where you see what you didn't see, to where you're available, to what you once would have said no to. So the greater one in you is more interested in your success than you are. But he will lead you there, but only if you will follow him. So those of you who say, I have in mind to do this and I have in mind to do that, before you take put steps to that, take time to pray in other tongues, pray it out so that you can hear what the mind of the Father is, the wisdom of the Father is. And that doesn't just go for those who serve in the ministry of helps. That goes for those who are in a fivefold office or those who think they are in a fivefold office. Hallelujah. The Holy Ghost in us is there to guide us if we would follow him. It's possible to never make another go another wrong direction again. People go wrong directions because they don't take time to pray in the Spirit. They marry wrong because they don't take time to pray in the spirit. They start businesses because they don't take time to pray in the spirit. I'm talking about ones that don't do well. They jump from thing to thing because they don't take time to pray in the Spirit. The Holy Spirit will lead us into the success of God's plan for our life. Amen. You pray it out. You pray it out and you wait. You lay down your plan and you say, I've come to hear. I've not come to tell you what I planned, God. I've come to hear your plan, not tell you my plan. Hallelujah. Well, we thank you, Father. He's told us his plan for the last days. We agree with it. Amen. We agree. Agree with it. I'm so glad he refreshed us in this tonight. It's interesting how we started out because I said, remember when I started out, people will think, well, that's not the flow I came for. Your help is in the flow that was in the room. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.