Podcast Summary

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: The Glory Of God | Nancy Dufresne | Holy Ghost Meetings 2020
Date: January 9, 2020
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Location: World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA

Overview

This episode centers on understanding, honoring, and activating the "glory of God" within the church and believers' lives. Pastor Nancy Dufresne teaches on recognizing God’s glory, its manifestations (cloud, wind), its purpose, and the critical role of reverence, praise, and unity in cultivating an atmosphere for God’s tangible presence. The episode blends biblical exegesis, personal testimonies, counsel for church leaders, and spontaneous prophetic ministry to impart both doctrinal foundation and practical application.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Call to Teach on the Glory

• God's Direction: Nancy Dufresne shares, "When I go home, he tells me what to do for the next night. And he said, tonight, teach on the glory. And I said, sounds like a good subject to me." (00:00)
• Spiritual Lineage: Honoring teachings from Dad Hagin (Kenneth E. Hagin), emphasizing generational faithfulness.

2. Defining "Glory" & Scriptural Foundations

• Biblical Examples:
  • Genesis 18: God’s covenant with Abraham and his faithfulness to pass things on (01:03).
  • Acts 7:55: The martyr Stephen, "being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven... and saw the glory of God" (03:12).
    • Fullness in the Holy Ghost focuses your vision on God, not opposition or fear.
    • Stephen’s vision demonstrates a "glory world" that intersects with ours.
  • Psalm 73:24: Earthly guidance, then being "received into glory" (05:55).

3. Personal & Ministry Testimonies of the Glory

• Manifestations of the Glory:
  • Supernatural cloud in a Mexican ministers' conference, experienced by all, not just a few, as a sign of God's presence (06:23–08:33).
  • "So what's that mean? That with glory, it can transmit Him. It is Him. And the glory of God comes into manifestation for a purpose, not just so we can say we saw something, not just so we can have an experience, but so it can accomplish something." (08:39)

4. Sincerity vs. Spiritual Exhibitionism

• Warning: Don't "conjure up" spiritual experiences or try to appear more spiritual than you are.
• Sincerity is key: "God will bless sincerity." (07:08)
• Blessed are those who believe without seeing: "You’re more blessed...because you believe without having seen what I’ve seen." (11:22)

5. The Spirit’s Manifestations: Who, When, & How

• Not for Selfish Pursuit:
  • Experiences come "as the Spirit wills, not as we will." (10:28)
  • Don’t seek experiences out of comparison or competition; recognize uniqueness of callings and gifts.
• Practical Example: Nancy shares stories of her late husband Ed Dufresne's spiritual experiences, cautioning not to feel the need to "equal" someone else's manifestations (13:13–14:38).

6. Unity, Atmosphere, and Ministering the Glory

• Solomon’s Temple as a Type: The church as a collective temple where the Spirit dwells and manifests (17:56).
• Corporate Unity and Praise: 2 Chronicles 5—when "trumpeters and singers were as one," the glory filled the house.
  • "There is power in unified prayer and power in united praise. It would behoove us to have praise services to bring Him into manifestation." (23:14)

7. Purposeful Praise and Worship

• Atmosphere For Miracles:
  • Miraculous manifestations and healings follow an atmosphere of united faith, praise, and hunger, not passivity.
• Setting the Atmosphere:
  • "Too many times we're just sitting back and expecting God to just show up. But if we will set the atmosphere, then if He wants to move that way, the atmosphere is prepared for Him." (38:17)
• Reverence is Essential: True praise and worship transcend natural expressions like clapping for applause rather than reverence (41:24–45:01).

8. Practical Obedience and Everyday Manifestations

• Engage God in "Small" Things:
  • Spiritual sensitivity in seemingly mundane decisions (e.g., buying a dog, a couch, a house) is often God’s training ground for bigger decisions (88:32–90:01).
• Natural vs. Spiritual:
  • "If it's for training, it's no longer unimportant." Every area touched by God becomes significant for spiritual growth.

9. Warnings and Encouragement to Ministers

• Don’t Abandon Your Calling:
  • Strong prophetic warning against quitting ministry due to discouragement or pressure (97:36–104:05).
  • "No devil can make you quit. The decision is yours...It is not his. Hold to your choice." (99:18)
• Family and Ministry:
  • "I don't leave the plan of God for anybody. I don't care who you are...Being a preacher's kid is not hard. It's a blessing. Being in the ministry is not hard. It's a blessing." (104:04)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Spiritual Hunger:
  "God wants more of it and has more of it for us. And I'm not willing to just hear dad Hagin's stories. I'm not willing that the most spiritual men have already changed addresses." (35:59)
• On Reverence:
  "The way we will move into God’s greater glory is through reverencing the Lord. What’s in greater glory? Greater miracles. Body parts growing, arms growing, legs growing, new organs...Wouldn’t it be a shame to get to heaven and say your congregation didn’t receive for one reason: they didn’t have enough reverence for the one they were dealing with." (44:18)
• On Atmosphere-Setting:
  "The moving of the Spirit will be initiated by the atmosphere that we set for Him." (48:16)
• On Small Obediences:
  "If God is blessing you down to the dog in your home, then it’s a reminder every time that dog walks in the room—if He’ll take care of me and provide me with a dog, how much more the bigger things, the mortgage, the insurance...He takes care of every other thing in my house." (93:29)
• On Calling:
  "You have to mature. You have to grow. Be patient with yourself as you do that...The calling is no substitute for spiritual development." (100:11)

Important Timestamps

• Introduction to the Glory theme: 00:00–01:35
• Acts 7 / Fullness and vision: 03:02–06:20
• Hazy glory cloud testimony: 06:23–08:39
• Purpose of manifestation: 08:39–09:41
• Unity in praise and the cloud: 21:15–23:33
• Faith for manifestation without seeing: 11:22
• Warning against conjuring or competing in the supernatural: 10:28–13:13
• How to set the atmosphere: 38:17
• On true reverence and the warning about clapping: 41:24–45:01
• On the pastor/ministry quitting warning: 97:36–104:04
• Obedience in daily life as spiritual training: 88:32–90:11
• Closing prophetic ministry and prayer: 96:55–108:29

Flow and Spirit of the Episode

Nancy Dufresne’s tone is both pastoral and prophetic—warm, encouraging, at times gently corrective. The message moves from teaching and storytelling to exhortation and live ministry to specific church leaders in the room. The episode is imbued with personal anecdotes, scriptural references, and spontaneous utterances, leading listeners to hunger for God’s glory, value unity, and reject superficial religiosity.

The core message is that the glory of God is both available and purposed for the church and each believer—but its manifestation is linked to atmosphere, unity, hunger, faith, and above all, reverence for God.

Conclusion: Practical Takeaways

• Expect, teach on, and prepare for the manifestation of God’s glory.
• Don’t seek spiritual experiences for their own sake; let God be sovereign.
• True reverence—both public and private—moves us into greater manifestations.
• Praise and unity in the church sets the stage for the miraculous.
• The Spirit’s leading in “little things” prepares us for greater manifestations.
• Never abandon your calling; God supplies strength and strategy for every season.

"Let's not forget about the glory. The glory can manifest in a cloud or in a wind or any whatever way...because we believe we'll see it greater." (37:31)

"We have so much to do with whether or not the Holy Ghost and how he's going to manifest by how we set and approach the atmosphere for him." (52:25)