The Importance of Fullness | Joel Siegel | Collinsville, Oklahoma | JTH Crusades 2024 | Wednesday AM

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Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Episode: The Importance of Fullness | Joel Siegel | Collinsville, Oklahoma | JTH Crusades 2024 | Wednesday AM
Date: October 14, 2024
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Key Speaker: Joel Siegel

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the spiritual imperative of living in the "fullness"—being full of the Word and Spirit of God. Joel Siegel, ministering at the JTH Crusades 2024, passionately unpacks what it means to be a "full" Christian, why consistent praise and awareness of God is crucial, and how believers can participate in the continuous flow of God’s presence and power. The message is both deeply practical and spiritually stirring, blending theological teaching with lively anecdote and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Habit of Praise and Spontaneous Worship

Timestamps: 00:08 – 05:29, 10:00 – 13:00

• Joel begins by urging the congregation to develop the habit of praise—not just in response to music or a worship leader, but spontaneously as a normal expression of the believer’s life.

• Emphasis on verbal praise, distinguishing between worship leaders and “worship extractors,” humorously describing the leader’s job as “to get you to hush when it’s time to do something else” (03:07).

  “We’re worship leaders, not worship extractors. It’s the job of the leader to get you to hush when it’s time to do something else.” – Joel Siegel (02:45)

• Reflection on the Charismatic Renewal and how spontaneous praise was a hallmark, making congregational engagement with God normal and expected.

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2. God-Awareness and Living Full of the Word

Timestamps: 13:00 – 21:00

• Joel teaches that God’s presence is not distant; believers are meant to live in continual awareness and communion with Him.

• The analogy of marriage is used to illustrate intimacy with God. Just as love is not dependent on mood or outside stimuli, so too should praise and spiritual expression be a natural, unforced flow (15:20).

• Christians should be “God-aware,” recognizing their lives as intertwined with God’s life every day, in every activity.

  “All day long He and I are doing this thing called life together.” (16:44)

• Colossians 3:16 is unpacked: Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, so much so that it overflows in expression.

  "When the word is dwelling in you richly, the word is coming back out...because it’s so rich. Rich chocolate cake talks back to you, doesn’t it?” – Joel Siegel (22:32)

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3. What Does ‘Fullness’ Look Like?

Timestamps: 21:00 – 30:00

• The mark of fullness is when what’s being put in (Word, Spirit) flows back out (praise, thanksgiving, scriptural confession).
• Christians are to be “spirit-filled,” which Joel defines as the only acceptable state for a believer (20:25).
• Practical examples: responding to truth immediately, engaging actively with sermons and teachings, continually offering praise and thanksgiving—not just in church, but throughout daily life.
• Comparison to “snacking” spiritually throughout the day, referencing Smith Wigglesworth’s habit of frequent engagement with the Word (30:05).

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4. Maintaining Consistent Spiritual Expression

Timestamps: 30:00 – 37:00

• Spiritual “fullness” is sustained by a loop or cycle: receiving from God and expressing it back through praise, thanksgiving, prayer (including praying in tongues).

• Joshua 1:8 and Psalm 34:1 emphasized—believers are to meditate on the Word and keep praise on their lips continually.

  “If you go too long, and how long is too long? Half an hour… If you’re in your vehicle and drive 25, 30 minutes and there was no interaction with God during that time, we might need to redefine your concept of Christianity.” (33:55)

• Fullness impacts outreach: as Christians remain at levels where God “can come out and reach the world,” the harvest is reaped and God’s purposes fulfilled.

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5. Being Responsive and Intimate with God

Timestamps: 37:00 – 45:00

• Believers are not only to be aware of God but responsive to His presence—likened again to the touch and responsiveness in a “hot marriage.”
• Joel humorously references escalating degrees of intimacy, tying them to increasing levels of spiritual engagement: “A low-level response can lead to another response…and greater levels of intimacy and sharing.” (39:15)
• James 4 cited: “Draw near to me and I’ll draw near to you.” An illustration with his wife visually demonstrates mutual movement creating closeness.

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6. Truth, The Full Truth, and Living in the Loop

Timestamps: 45:00 – 54:00

• Joel shares anecdotes about “partial” versus “full” truth, using personal stories to highlight the difference.

• John 16 (The Amplified Bible) is read and unpacked: The Holy Spirit guides into the whole, full truth.

• The spiritual “loop”: the Spirit draws on the Father and reveals to us, but our participation (coming toward God, engaging in prayer/praise) determines if the loop is complete.

  “We’re actually the element in that [loop] that can either complete the circuit or interrupt the circuit by where we’re living and what we engage in.” (55:24)

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7. ‘Steeped’ in God: The Tea Analogy

Timestamps: 52:02 – 54:50

• Host brings out Matthew 6:33 (Message): “Steep your life in God reality, God initiative, God provisions.”

• Uses illustration of steeping tea: just as hot water and a teabag infuse, so too are we to be infused and intermingled with God.

• When believers live “steeped” in God, others will notice His presence as flowing out of them.

  “When I open my mouth, He comes out.” (54:50)

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8. Prayer and Power for the Next Move of God

Timestamps: 56:00 – 64:00

• Joel quotes Kenneth Hagin on prophetic waves of revival, emphasizing the need for believers to take their place in prayer and spiritual engagement for God’s move to be fully realized.

• Unique analogy: Regenerative braking in electric cars, likened to how prayer and praying in tongues not only bring answers to us but generate power for God’s work in the earth.

  “When you pray in tongues, you give impetus to the next move of God’s spirit before that spiritual wave is ever seen with your natural eyes.” (59:22)

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9. Corporate Prayer & Declaration

Timestamps: 64:00 – 77:40

• The congregation is led in corporate prayer for the harvest, the church, and the nations.

• Encouragement that persistence in prayer brings spiritual awareness and intermingling with God.

  “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to every nation. Then the end shall come.” (76:35)

• The message concludes with a call for fullness, joy-filled praise, and anticipation of the coming of the Lord.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 02:45 | Joel Siegel | “We’re worship leaders, not worship extractors. It’s the job of the leader to get you to hush when it’s time to do something else.” | | 16:44 | Joel Siegel | “All day long He and I are doing this thing called life together.” | | 20:25 | Joel Siegel | “A full Christian is the only acceptable Christian. Didn’t plan on saying this this morning, but no big deal.” | | 22:32 | Joel Siegel | “When the word is dwelling in you richly, the word is coming back out...because it’s so rich. Rich chocolate cake talks back to you, doesn’t it?” | | 33:55 | Joel Siegel | “If you go too long…30 minutes and there was no interaction with God…we might need to redefine your concept of Christianity.” | | 39:15 | Joel Siegel | “A low-level response can lead to another response…and greater levels of intimacy and sharing.” | | 45:27 | Joel Siegel | “There’s the truth, and there’s the full truth. He’ll lead you to the full truth.” | | 52:45 | Host | “We are to be steeped [in] him. We are infused with him. He infuses his strength into our inner man. He lives in us, and he wants to flow out of us.” | | 54:50 | Host | “It’s we. It’s me and him. And when I’m infused, steeped with God, when I open my mouth, He comes out.” | | 55:24 | Joel Siegel | “We’re actually the element in that [loop] that can either complete the circuit or interrupt the circuit by where we’re living and what we engage in.” | | 59:22 | Joel Siegel (Kenneth Hagin quote) | “When you pray in tongues, you give impetus to the next move of God’s spirit before that spiritual wave is ever seen with your natural eyes.” | | 76:35 | Joel Siegel | “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to every nation. Then the end shall come.” |

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Key Takeaways

• Fullness is the standard for Christian life: a continual cycle of taking in God’s Word and Spirit, and consistently expressing them back out through praise, thanksgiving, and prayer.
• Intimacy and responsiveness to God must become the norm, not the exception. This requires habitual spiritual awareness and expression.
• The next wave of God’s move depends on believers maintaining fullness and taking their place in prayer; passive Christianity is not an option.
• The spiritual “loop” of receiving and expressing is not automatic—our engagement makes the difference.
• Living as “steeped tea,” not just hot water, is the aim: saturated, infused, and indistinguishable from God’s presence.

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Suggested Listening Flow

To revisit highlights:

• Spontaneous praise and the “habit” of worship (00:08 – 05:29)
• Defining spiritual fullness and “the loop” (20:25 – 30:00, 54:50 – 56:20)
• Tea analogy and God-awareness (52:02 – 54:50)
• Quotes from Kenneth Hagin and call to prayer (58:35 – 64:00)
• Corporate prayer and declaration (64:00 – 77:40)

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This episode is a call to live joyfully full of the Spirit and Word, aware, expressive, responsive, and engaged in God’s ongoing plan—both personally and corporately.

Transcript

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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.

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Glory to God. Thank you. For the blood of the covenant by which we're able to enter into the holiest place. Glory to God. Hallelujah. Where you've secured for us an eternal redemption. Thank you, master. Thank you, master. Thank you, master. You know, in a building like this, I understand the sounds designed to go that way, not this way, but. Right. On the other hand, kind of with. With this number of people, it'd be really good to hear you a little bit more lifting, just lifting your voice and praising God spontaneously. You know what I mean? Not. Not necessarily singing a lyric, but just lifting up some praise. Can you do that for a minute or another minute more here, Go ahead and do that. There you are. There you are. There you are. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Father.

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Glory, glory, glory, Glory, Glory, Glory. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory, glory, glory, Glory. Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory. Glory to him. Glory to him.

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Him.

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Glory to him. Glory, glory, glory, Glory, glory. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Glory, glory, glory. Hallelujah.

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His saints shall be joyful in Glory.

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Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

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We must all develop, all of us, all of us have to develop in this to where we've developed the habit of praise, the habit of rejoicing. Thank you for your agreement. But, but, but, but, but. Habits are not things you just agree with how many, how many agree with working out, right? I agree. I should exercise. Is that the same as developing the habit of it? To where if you wake up and your head says, no, we ain't going to do that, Your body says, oh, bless God. Yes, you are. Get up. You got a good habit. If you develop that, you got a good habit. Well, you know the habit. The habit amongst Christians needs to be praised, worship, Thanksgiving, rejoicing. And as I say all the time, it's not the job of the praise team to get you to do it. We're worship leaders, not worship extractors. It's the job of the leader to get you to hush when it's time to do something else. That's the job of a worship leader, which, according to that job description, I guess I could be one. Praise the Lord. Amen. No, there's more to it than that. So just one more time, because you were Way too quick to. To. To ramp it down. Amen. I mean, I'm not fussing at you. Don't get me wrong. I'm just fussing at you.

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Hallelujah. Glory to God. Praise him. Praise him.

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Praise him. Praise him.

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Praise. Praise. Praise. Praise.

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Praise.

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Praise. Praise. Praise today. Praise today. Praise today. Praise today. Praise today, Prai. Praise today. Praise today. Praise today. Praise you today. Praise you today. This is the day.

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This is the day the Lord has made. I rejoice and be glad in it. Ha ha.

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Praise him. Praise him. Praise him. Praise him. Praise him.

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Praise him. Praise him.

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Praise. Praise. Praise Prai. Praise. Praise. Praise. Praise.

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Praise.

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Praise. Praise.

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Praise. Praise. Praise.

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Praise.

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Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God. Glory to God.

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Paul told Timothy, stir up the gift of God that's in you. You can apply that a lot of different ways, but one of the gifts that we have is just the gift of the. Of the person, of the Holy Spirit. Amen. And there are some. You know, how many know, if you got to stir, you have. You have a. You have the stir. You have the stirrer. It's this. I can't talk about it, and point it and speak at the same time. It's your tongue. Your tongue will stir. Amen. Well, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.

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Praise the Lord.

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Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Glory to God. If you praised him out loud, you can be seated this morning. We're quick to praise. We're not quick to stop. We're quick to praise. We're not quick to stop. Yeah, we're. We're praisers. We're praising praisers. We're praisers. We're praise. We're praise people. You know, back in the charismatic renewal, that was a defining element of that movement was. Was praise. I mean, the music changed. So much changed. And then all of a sudden, people were like, we can engage with God. You know, we can. We can actually connect. Connect in ways that were maybe a little more meaningful and deeper than, you know, turn into page. You know what we would say. Turn and stand in your hymnal. I mean, stand and turn in your hymn. You know what I mean? In ways maybe a little more meaningful than that. People would connect with God and then. But then there would also be moves of the spirit. And some of you can remember this. I remember it where we would. We would just be in the auditorium, and it really wasn't even so much in response to a prompting from the preacher, but just. The spirit would just move and whole sections would get up and just start praising God out loud. There was no beat, there was no mute. They didn't even have a digital loop going on. They had nothing going on in terms of that. But the Spirit was just prompt. Well, why would the Holy Spirit do that? Why would he do such a thing? Interrupted the preacher on occasions. Why would. How rude. I mean, no, why would he do that? Well, for a lot of reasons. Number one, training us corporately to be sensitive to his presence, because his presence is actually stronger corporately than what most of us would experience individually. And so you can. How many know, when you come to church, you can usually sense him in a stronger measure than what you do just on your own sometimes. We'll see. There's going to be movement in that. In that arena so that we can learn, so that we can train ourselves how to respond to Him. Amen. And that's one of the things, too, is just. Just training us. But I mean, another thing is just to get us used to this thing called praise, to get us used to the fact that there needs to be verbal expression coming out of you on a regular basis, like, not just daily, but throughout. Throughout the day. In him we live and move, Right? When you move, you're in Him. When you breathe, he gives to all life and breath. The Book of Acts says, right. He gives to all your life and your breath. There is an intermingling. We started talking about it the other day. There's an intermingling of your life with His. Amen. This idea of God being way up in heaven and you being way down on here, way down here, that's a low form of revelation of what we have as Christians. Amen. It's supposed to be a lot closer than that. A lot closer than that. And so, you know, if you're married and you have what Dr. Dufresne used to use this term, I like it, so I adopt it. He'd say, we have a hot marriage. Remember him saying that? Never heard Pastor Nancy say that. No, I'm just kidding. Dr. Dufresne used to say, talk about that. Have a hot marriage. And if you have a hot marriage. You know what I mean by hot? There's some flame. The flame hasn't died out. Right. If you have a hot marriage, there should be some communion, like, just as a natural, you know, as a natural thing. Not unnatural, not forced. Right? Not forced. I mean, I don't say. I don't call Tony and say, hey, Tony, I'm going to tell my wife, I love you. Can you play that beat you play. Can you give me a little something so I can tell my wife I love her? Kind of ridiculous, right? But just as ridiculous to have to have some kind of stimuli in order for something to come out of our mouths. Right? I'm helping you, by the way. I'm not mad at you. Helping you. I didn't say. Even say good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Sorry. I didn't have the right music to say. I was say good morning. No. And so, you know, we'd be. We're just spontaneously. Praise would erupt. Things would erupt. Well, God's in the eruption business still today. That charismatic renewal we were talking about, that was in the, you know, 1960s, 1970s. That's a couple generations ago now. But oh, my Lord, I'm so glad to be alive today. I'm so glad to be here today. Because God's moving not in lesser ways. Are you listening to me? He's not moving in lesser ways than he did in decades past and in generations past. Amen. He seeks to build. He's a God of progression. Amen. We go from glory to glory. And when the Bible says glory to glory, it's not talking about diminishing glory. It's not talking about we went from this glorious place way down to this barely glorious place. Not talking about that. No. We go on from one degree of glory to another degree of glory. Amen. We building on this thing. We building on this thing. But God doesn't build by himself. Amen. He builds friends. You're going to help me today. Yes, you are. You're going to help me today. I've been sweet so far, but that does run out after a while. I'm just telling you. You've used two of you. You've used two of my sweet. No, no, no. I'm gonna be sweet all day. I can go. I can do this all day. I can do this all day. I can keep you here all day. Amen. God's not doing what he's doing on his own just by himself. He's doing it through his people. He's doing it through his body. And so bless God. We got to become. We got to become Christians that are very sensitive to him. Very God aware. Can I use that term? We have to become God aware, understanding that all day long he and I are doing this thing called life together. Never, never, never. Marsha Huck, whatever your name is. Never. Is it. We go to meet with God on Sundays and maybe a weeknight, and then we do our life between that. No. If I mean, if that's you. Glory to God. We need to. We need to re. Baptize you and hold you under a little bit longer. Yeah. Get you in the jet tub. Is that what you. Get you in the jetted tub? You didn't feel it enough last time? No. This is. You are if any man be in Christ, you understand? If anyone be in Christ, you are, as the amplified says, an entirely new creation. The old. That's our problem. We let things get old. But his mercies, bless God, are new every morning. There's nothing old about the God life. There's nothing there. He's. He's perpetually new. Perpetually new. Every. Amen. Amen. It's always new. That's why you can read the verse today that you read yesterday. And if you read it with the right heart about you, if you approach it correctly, it will be fresh. Fresh like it just came off of heaven's Bible bush. You know what I mean? Just came right off of that. That verse just came right off of that. Oh, man. Huh? The hot sign in heaven. Yeah. You turn to something in here, man, and heaven's hot sign comes on. How many know what I'm talking about? Heaven's hot sign. How many don't know what I'm talking about? No. If you don't know what I'm talking about when I say hot sign, raise your hand if you don't know what I'm talking about. Person next to you. Explain. Anybody else? Person next to them. Splain, splain. Krispy Kreme doughnuts. I don't eat those. Because old things had to pass away. Brother David Ingalls used to have. Still does have a song called. I don't sing those songs anymore. I changed it. Because there's times I'll want something and I'll say, I don't eat those foods anymore. Sugar and grease and fat. Come on now. No, I don't. You'd have to know that song anyhow. So we become God aware. We become God aware all day long. All day long. We're doing life with him. We're doing life with Him. Amen. And we're taking in His Word. Amen. But it's not just taking in. Remember I talked about the God loop the other day. We're going to look at a little bit of that more here in a second, I think. But you remember how I talked about that loop? There's a cycle. There's a cycle with these things. There's something coming in, but there needs to be something coming Out. Amen. And when you're taking God in, it shouldn't take too long before what's coming in is flowing out. Amen. And then you become, when there's a flow going in and coming out, you have become what we call a spirit filled Christian. Amen. Amen. A spirit filled Christian. Amen. And that's the only. Listen to me. That's the only acceptable Christian there is. That's the only acceptable Christian that there is. A full Christian is the only acceptable Christian. Didn't plan on saying this this morning, but no big deal. I really didn't plan on saying anything. Sorry to be too honest. Amen. I just, you know, we're fishing for it, but we landed on some things. Hallelujah. A full Christian. A full Christian. How do you know you're full? How do you know you're full? Well, actually, I just talked about it. When what's coming, when what's being put in starts coming back out, you know you're full. When praise and when spiritual expressions are coming out of you, you're full of the spirit. When scripture's coming out of you, you're full of the Word. When you're in a service and word is being spoken and truth is being transmitted and there's no response, there's nothing coming out of you. It's because that truth has taken so long to find its way down to a new place. Know what I'm talking about? It's like, hadn't been here in a while. There's no lights on. There's no lights on. There's. It's full of. It's full of cops. I'm not sure where I'm going here. No, your truth repository, your spirit needs to be so used to receiving Amen. You know, with what we have today with YouTube, livestream, podcasts, different stuff. With most churches, I imagine it's this way to some degree. With this church, you could just go like you could hear a sermon Sunday and then access it again on your drive to work on Monday and then maybe, then maybe hit it again on Thursday. But just doing stuff, you can even hear things more than once. Amen. And it should get down in you. It should get down in you. And then once it comes in you and enough, once enough of God's Word comes in you, it's going to start coming out of you. And when it starts coming out of you, that's when you're full of the Word. And if it's not coming out of you, you're not full of the Word. And if you're not full of the word, you're not acceptable.

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No.

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I know you like. You better give me a scripture. I better give you a scripture. I better give you a scripture. Better give you Colossians 3:16. Colossians 3:16. You know what that says? Huh? We'll go there then. What's Colossians 3:16 say? It says, let the word. Let the word Christ dwell in you. Richly. Richly. That means there ain't just half of two verses left on the inside that you heard once upon a time. And you have to put them together and make one verse. You ever met anybody that did that? They try to quote you a verse and they take two and put them together. You know, the Bible says God so loved the world that you love your enemies. That counts. Put the two together, you get one. That's not enough. That's not richly. I said that's not richly. Richly. You got to understand what rich is. May I, May I, May I explain? Rich, we know it best now. I don't eat these foods anymore. I'm sorry, but chocolate cake. Chocolate cake, you know, you go to a restaurant and they have sometimes like this ultimate chocolate cakes. We call it like death by chocolate. And you know, faith people, we won't eat that. But. Yeah, well, life by chocolate. Thank you. But something like that, where it's just ultra packed and we take a bite of it and while the cake is still in our mouth, what do we do? We start talking, don't we? You took a bite and you say, oh, oh, my Lord. This. This is rich. When something's rich, it's so dense and packed that it almost forces you to respond while it's still in your mouth, right? What you put in, thank God. Not the same. The cake doesn't come back out. But a response, a response comes out. A response comes out because it's so rich. Rich chocolate cake talks back to you, Doesn't it? Oh, my goodness. You know, I ordered something. I don't know. I don't know. Don't want to know. Don't want to know the process of how goats make cheese. They have goat cheese. I don't know how many goats it takes to make one. I don't know any of that. But this stuff was strong, man. It was strong. And I had some kind of meal that had it on it. Didn't realize I took a bite of it. And while it's still in my mouth, I'm like, oh, I didn't really enjoy that. It's like chocolate cake would have Been better, but it's like, this was rich. When the word is dwelling in you richly, the word is coming back out. You know, I'm just. You know how I do. I'm preaching, really, to me. I'm preaching to me because this whole thing that happened back in the charismatic revival of people becoming spirit filled and God filled, well, we can't lose that today. You understand? God may be emphasizing different things in different areas, but it's never the case that what was once emphasized is supposed to fall by the wayside and become lost. We're supposed to have all the word and faith of the Word of faith. Thank you. Let's see what happens over here. We're supposed to have all the word and faith of the Word of faith. Not less. Thank you. Thank you. Not less. Not less. Word, not less Word. Just because we're word and spirit doesn't mean. Okay, we have half the word that we used to have to make room for. No, no, no, no, no. Huh. And, you know, the. The spirit that we had during the charismatic renewal, the praise, the worship. Right. The gifts of the spirit, the moving of the spirit that we had during that, we're not supposed to have lost any of that. So the word of Christ is to dwell in us richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in. Look at this. Psalms, hymns, spiritual songs, Meaning the Word needs to get in you to the degree that it starts coming back out. It can come out in the form of psalms or hymns or even songs. Amen. Glory to God. I never forget when I. When I heard songs that were based on revelation from the Word. That was so new to me. And that. Oh, my gosh. I mean, Philip used to. Y' all know Philip Slaughter. He's very dear to me. Amen. But he didn't record it. But you used to sing it. Sister Leah's song, remember? We will stand we will stand on the word of the Lord we're going to just have our thing here.

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We'll do battle with the Bible.

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We'll fight with the sword. When a situation arises that we can't overcome, we will stand and say, it is written. We've already won.

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Whoo.

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Y', all.

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Thank you. You were no help. No, no, I'm just.

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I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

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Oh, she was in. She was in. We will stand on the word of the Lord. And put that on a song that was so. That was revolutionary to me, that was being full of revelation until it came out in a form like that that you can Hook to. I hope you were singing. Was you singing along? Okay, thank you. Hallelujah. Well, not just full of the word, but what about being full of the spirit? What's that like? Well, the way you get full of the spirit is you engage in spiritual expression. You engage in spiritual expressions. What are spiritual expressions? Some of the most basic ones are praise and worship and thanksgiving. Praise worship, thanksgiving, Praise worship and thanksgiving. All day long. I will bless the Lord at special times. His praise shall occasionally be. Uh huh. Was I quoting the reverse standard version? No. I'll bless the Lord at all times. At all times. His praise shall continually be in our mouths. Let us therefore offer unto God the sacrifice of praise continually, that is the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. This is supposed to be a continual flow all throughout the day. Praise, worship and thanksgiving. And those spiritual expressions will move you closer to the spiritual realm. Ah, this is amazing stuff. Basic, yes. Simple, yes. But just outstanding in terms of what it does for your life. Now you're giving thanks all the time. You're giving praise and then of course added in. There is prayer in all its forms, including praying in other tongues. Those are spiritual expressions. Amen. So as you engage throughout the day in spiritual expressions, you're keeping yourself closer to the spiritual realm, to God's. You know, there's a spiritual world and there's our natural world. Amen. And as Christians, the reason you've been born again, your inner man has been regenerated, your inner man has been recreated and it's been made suitable for interaction with the spiritual realm, with the God realm. Your inner man has yours if you're saved. But you're still in a natural world. So you have to make movement toward that God realm to have experience in that realm. Yes. Hope I'm not boring anybody this morning. At least I'm entertaining myself. You know, we try to keep it fun, but yes. So you want to constantly be engaging. Constantly. So if you're not quoting a scripture, you know, like they talked the other night about Brother Smith Wigglesworth. He wouldn't go for maybe 10, 15 minutes without pulling out his, his New Testament. And just. What's he doing? He's just snacking. Thy words were found.

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I did eat them.

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He's just chewing, Just chewing. Spiritually speaking, just chewing. Just got some chewing. Because you know, people will do that. I mean in your world that, you know, some people that would put that stuff in there and they spit that nasty stuff and they get a water, they get an empty water bottle and then fill it up with that nasty stuff. Well, see, what are they doing? It's just, it's a constant feed, which I don't really know what I'm talking about, truthfully, because I never have done that was incompatible with. With my former career, which was a saxophonist. That doesn't work real well there. But anyhow, I did know guys that would play with a cigarette in their hand. Not me, but others. But anyhow, that's irrelevant. Focus that chew that just keeps things going long term, right? And all the time. Just all the time. All the time. We need to be either word or praise, word or tongues. Word. Listen, what did. What did. I don't know if you like this kind of preaching, so maybe I'll. Maybe I'll do some of my champion building stuff here. So I'm just tapping in, tapping into the flow. But what did Joshua. What does it say in Joshua 1:8, this book of the law? Because let's talk about success. Let's talk about conquering. Let's talk winning. This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you'll meditate in it. So not all the time. Just. Just when it's day and then when it's night, the rest of the time you're on you. You're good. The rest of the time you're free. You can do your thing. Meditate on it day and night. That you may. That you may remember to do according to all that's written therein. So you don't meditate on it. So you don't forget it. Then, then, then you'll make your way prosperous and you'll have good success. Maybe if we package it in terms of success and prosperity, folk will like it. We need to be full of the things of God. How can you tell if you're full if what if what you're putting in is coming back out. This book of the law shall not depart from your bed. Stand from your nightstand. Didn't say it. Shall not depart from your nightstand. Said it shall not depart from your mouth. From your mouth. From your mouth. Amen. Meditate on it day and night. You meditate by keeping it in your mouth. In your mouth. And then in terms of spiritual things, you keep praise on your lips. You keep Thanksgiving on your. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Listen, if you go too long, and how long is too long? Half an hour. If you're now, I don't mean like you're at work or in the library or even, if you know what I'm saying, where you're supposed to be quiet. If you're somewhere where you need to be doing something else, we understand that you need to be doing something else. But I'm just talking about if you're controlling your environment, just take your vehicle. If you're in your vehicle and you go from point A to point B and it takes you 25, 30 minutes. And there was no interaction with God during that time. We might need to redefine here today your concept of what Christianity is. This is a relationship. If I drive somewhere with my wife for 30 minutes, 25, 30 minutes, and I say nothing to her, it means something's wrong. Typically I did something wrong. I'm not a big conversationalist, believe it or not. But if, I mean, if I don't say something now, sometimes we don't say a lot to each other because we are engaged with God during that time and we're chill, we're okay with that, right? But I mean, just, you know, if. Let's just say two people are dating. You're supposed to be. If you're dating, you're supposed to be either moving towards something or a waste or the. Or this is the last date. You know what I mean? Like, you know, we're closing this up. It's been great fun, but it was just one of those things that, you know, that kind of thing, like, okay, no, it's not gonna, we're not gonna, we're not gonna go forward with this. But it was great. Enjoy ya enjoy life. Go separate ways. Then maybe you shut up. But if this is moving towards a more permanent relationship and you're 30 minutes and you don't acknowledge one another, Then I'll just tell right now the woman. You should say, you should say it was great fun, but it was just one of those things. Goodbye, we'll see you later. It's been good having you. Find somebody that will talk to you. Amen. I know you don't know those jazz songs, but I do. And that's what matters. Praise the Lord. So there's this. Dan Suffogue and Don Stenzene. The flow of God comes through his people. The move of God runs through his church. And as his church is faithful to remain at levels of fullness where he can come out and he can exit you and reach the world. Then the harvest is reaped, then Jesus can come, then this gets wrapped up. Amen. So we want to live in this place of spiritual fullness. Amen. Spiritual fullness, full of the Word, full of the Spirit. And so as we Were saying just a little bit ago, you want to become God awareness all the time. Preaching to me today, you want to become just aware of the fact that it's not just you in here. You know, you might have thought once you got out of college, you were delivered from roommates, but you weren't delivered from roommates. You got a roommate, you got up. It's not just you in there. Can you turn to your neighbor and say, it's not just you in there? Amen. It's not just you in there. You collectively and individually are God's temple. You are the temple of God. For God said, I'll live in them and I'll walk in them and I'll be their father and they'll be my children. Amen. God lives in us. God lives in us, but he desires interaction. So we are to be aware of him all the time. And then secondly, we're not just to be aware of him all the time. We're to be responsive to him. Just like I talked about, you know, some. I mean, responsive. It doesn't, it shouldn't take a whack in the head. My wife can just touch my hand and I'm. I'm responsive. I'll grab it back, I'll say, love you. Just say love you and I'll say it again. Amen. Whatever. Just responsive. Responsive. And that might be a low level response, just, you know, grabbing the hand. But you know, a low level response can lead to. Can lead to another response and then that can lead to, you know, can you. Do I have to say it or can you. Can you know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. What was the rating on this show today? Was it. I keep it clean. Don't worry about it. I keep it clean. I keep it clean. Clean enough. Enough. Clean enough. Amen. Responsive to God. So listen, just as with a couple that has a hot marriage, thank you, Dr. Dufresne, for that. Listen, there's certain times where responses can escalate. Grandkids are here. You know what I'm talking about. Things can escalate. Things can go places. And greater levels of intimacy and sharing, Sharing, greater levels can be experienced. It's just exactly the same with God. Amen. And there's. There's things he wants to share. There's things he, as we've been talking about, things he wants to reveal. Amen. But if we're living too far removed from where he even is, which is now, he's in us. But there's a spiritual world. We're connected to him. We have to make movement toward him. Does James chapter four not say, draw near to me and I'll draw near to you? Step on up here a second, sweet wife, if you can just by way of illustrating, stand over there. So if. If. Let's just say I'm God. So the instruction was, God said, draw near to me. So take a step and then I'll draw near to you. And now draw near to me and I'll draw near to you. Now draw near to me. And this is where things get good. You know what I'm talking about this. Because now there's a oneness we're experiencing. Thank you. We're experiencing a oneness from the mutual drawing. And in that place, she doesn't have to shout real loud for me to get some things. I don't have to shout real loud for her to get some things. There's an intermingling. Now would you go? Because I gave you time to turn the. Do you have something to share at this point? Okay. Would you go back? Actually, I'm going to go there in the amplified. Do you remember what we read the other day in John 16? Can we go there? Because that way we could say we read a scripture at least. I didn't plan any of that. But it's what has come out and it's valuable. It's important. Hallelujah. I enjoy being with you. I just want you to know sometimes I'll get up and just start drawing out and I forget to say hello, how are you? Good to see you. Happy to be here. So all that, all that. Where did we say John 16 in the Amplified Bible we were looking at? Really started in verse 12 where Jesus had said, I still have many things to say to you, but you're not able to bear them, take them upon you, or to grasp them. Now. But when he, the Spirit of Truth, the Truth Giving Spirit, when the truth giving Spirit comes, glory to God. Don't you love that word? Says the truth Giving Spirit. You know, he's constantly doing that in us. He's constantly endeavoring to bring truth to us. When the truth giving Spirit comes, He will guide you. He will guide you. So this really. You could use this verse to preach on prayer, which is what we're doing here. But you could also use it to talk about the leading of the Spirit. And really so much of that, so much of his leading can be experienced in prayer. When he, the truth Giving Spirit comes, He will guide you into all the truth. And I like that it says this. The whole full truth. You can have part of. You can have part of the truth. Amen. You can have part of the truth, and it won't do for you what the full truth will do. Give you an example. I told you, Pastor, last night, and I've so enjoyed getting to know you guys a little bit, but I told you I'd share you about my professional sports history because I was very impressed with his. And this is the truth. And actually, Pastor Noel, he can corroborate this. He can corroborate this. But it is true that in 1987, I played for the Miami Heat during their inaugural season. It was their first season. And I know you're looking at me and saying, but look at you. But I'm having to look at you. So we're even. But that is the truth. It is the truth that I played for the Miami Heat and it was a great band. And that's the full truth. That's. The full truth, is that I did play for the Miami Heat. I was the saxophone player in the Miami Heat basketball band for all the home games. Amen. No, no, no. That's impressive. What's scary is I was just about as good from the free throw line as they were. They were very poor that first year. So you have the truth. Yeah. And the full truth? The full truth. Full disclosure. Well, if we're going to keep going on that, I dated one of the Miami Heat cheerleaders. It's the truth. It is the truth. It is the truth. The trombone player in the band, his name was Kelly. I know a lot of girls named that, but that was his name. His name was Kelly. He said, listen. He came after one of the games. He said, listen, I've got one of the girls to actually go out with me. One of the cheerleaders to go out with me, but she has a friend who's also a cheerleader, and they're together. Will you go? I said, yeah, I'll go. Yeah, I'll go. And I said, what are we gonna do? He said, I don't know. I said, well, I do, because there was a jazz club. I'm a musician. I said, there's a jazz club that goes two blocks away from the arena down in Miami. And that's where I lived. And so we take the girls and we went there and we start listening to the music. And we looked around and they were gone. Not jazz fans. Can you believe it? Can you believe somebody who's not a jazz fan? The truth is I dated one of the Miami Heat cheerleaders. The full truth is it lasted 10 minutes. Don't know her name. Not sure I ever did know her name. There's the truth. And there's the full truth. He'll lead you to the full truth. He'll lead you into the full truth. Amen. You weren't much help. I thought I was going to have a witness here today. Praise the Lord. He'll lead you, guide you into the whole full truth. He'll not speak his own message on his own authority, but he'll tell whatever he hears from the Father. He will give the message that's been given to him and he will announce and declare to you the things that are to come that will happen in the future. But do you understand? God's in you through the person of the Holy Spirit to do exactly this. But it doesn't happen without our engagement. It doesn't happen without our involvement. And it honestly doesn't really happen consistently when we live in a place that. That's too far from his place. You remember the draw near illustration. Come on. When we're over here in the natural and he's way over here in the spirit. Thing is, the Bible says the kingdom of God is within you. God's the spiritual realm is not some faraway place. It's not space, the final frontier. It's not that. It's not that. It's not Star Trek. Amen. The spiritual realm is co. In terms of space. I mean, it's here. It's just right here. It's right here and within you. You can. You can access the spiritual realm in you, in you. It's not another geographic. It's not geographically defined. You understand that it's not just the physical location of heaven, but it's the environment of heaven. It's all that heaven is. But it's in us and it's in the world. And we can access it at any time if we're living in close enough proximity to God, who's in us. Amen. When you live dry, when you live spiritually empty, you don't get this kind of revelation on a consistent basis. And the thing about the reason is, is when you're. When you're dry and empty, it can take so much time for you to even begin to move into that place where you're even God aware, where you're even sensitive to God. Whereas when you just live there, when you just live full, then accessing his realm, his things, is just the easiest and often quickest thing that There is. Because, listen, my wife and I dated. We shouldn't have made it to the altar. No question about it. It's proof that God's just good, good, good, and all because of me. But I was traveling on the road with a Christian music group from. We started dating in 1990, and we were in school together in Rochester, New York, and had met. But then I left after that year and I went on the road full time with a gospel music group. We were in a different city every single night. This was before cell phones. This was before all that stuff. All we had was mail. And she had to mail a letter to our offices in Mobile, Alabama, and then they would forward the mail every once in a while to whatever church they knew we were going to be at. That's how we communicated until the time we were married. I mean, from. Yeah, and even afterwards. So, I mean, that kind of communication, when she's sending a letter to one place that has to figure out where we are and then send it to that place. And sometimes it would miss us, it wouldn't get there in time, and we'd be on to the next place. Then they'd have to forward it there. That's what it's like to live spiritually empty and try to commune with God and try to hear from God. I mean, can God get some things to you? Yes. He's so merciful. He's so good. He'll use your pastor. In fact, he'll use your pastor just. Just really often, all the time. But we're also so thankful that he can communicate some stuff directly for you. You know, your pastor can't make every decision for you. In most cases, pastors aren't going to say, you should marry that one, because that could come back to bite you, can't it? Pastors? We don't want. We don't want. Amen. Hello. Hello. And so we want to live. Close enough, close enough, close enough. Come on, help us.

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Matthew 6:33, it says, you don't turn there, you know, this, I hope. Seek first the kingdom of God. Praise God. Seek first the kingdom of God. In the message translation. And I've got to find it, because I just lost it. Oh, yes, here we go. Steep your life in God reality, God initiative, God provisions. Don't worry about missing out. You'll find all your everyday human concerns will be met. But I want to just bring out that point. Steep your life in him. When we talk about steeping, what do we think about? We think about maybe a tea bag, right? When I ask Somebody for some hot tea, they're gonna go get two different things, right? They're gonna get hot water.

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Yeah.

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And a tea bag. If you're American. I think they do it more properly in other countries, but we get a tea bag and some hot water. We put the two together and we let it infuse, steep. Well, we take that teabag, we might dunk it a time or two, right up and down. We let that have some time to infuse, soak, soak. And when we bring that to someone, we don't say, here's your hot water and a tea bag. It's no longer two items. Here's your tea. Yeah, because they've been infused. Yes, they've been steeped. That's the way we're supposed to live. It's not just you. With God way over there, we are to be steeped him. We are infused with him. He infuses his inner, his strength into our inner man. He lives in us, and he wants to flow out of us. So when you walk into a room, it's no longer just you. And people look and say, there's something different about her. Who. Who is she? Well, it's not just she.

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It's not just she. God walked in.

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It's we.

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Yay.

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It's we. It's me and him. And when I'm infused, steeped with God, when I open my mouth, he comes out.

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So everybody say this, if you would. I'm not just hot water, I'm tea. You might need to turn to somebody and say, I'm not just hot water, baby. I'm tea. It's me and God. You mess with me, you mess with my whole family. You mess with the whole family. Come on, come on. Hey, hey. We're gonna pray. But, but, but before, I did want to get just to this verse. Verse. Is that okay? Because I wanted to take us back to being in the loop. Verse 14 in the Amplified says, he will honor and glorify me because he will take of, receive, draw upon what's mine, and will reveal, declare, disclose, transmit it to you. Transmit what to you? The next verse says everything the Father has.

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Wow, wow, wow, wow.

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Everything.

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Do you see this? Call it a cycle, a loop, reciprocation, whatever you want to call it. The spirit drawing on the Father and revealing to us. But we're actually the element in that. That can either complete the circuit or interrupt the circuit by where we're living and what we engage in. Amen. And we want this loop. We want this loop to be Complete. And this is. It's mind blowing. It's amazing that the Bible actually teaches that there is one who is constantly taking all that the Father has, all that he is, and endeavoring to reveal what, what needs to be revealed to us. We understand that the fact that we even have the Scriptures, that is part of the fulfillment of that. But that's not all of it. There's details that he'll be seeking to reveal. Amazing stuff. Amazing stuff. And the thing is, as we tried to make mention of yesterday, we need more people involved in this process. We need more people coming to this place in prayer. Because as we said the other day, praying in other tongues is one of the great opportunities to move ourselves closer to this, to the spiritual realm, to where we're further in the loop. Amen. And instead of just being like on a zoom call, how many have been on a zoom call instead of just being on a zoom call, you're in the room. You're in the room. You know, things are said in the room. Things are said in the room that won't be said on the conference call. Huh? You know, if you're on just say a conference call, if you've ever been on one of those, you know, there might be somebody in the room holding up a post it note saying, I wish they would shut up. You don't know that. You don't get that. But when you're in the room, you get it all. When you're in the room, you get it all. When you're in the room, you get it all.

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Praise the Lord.

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And if what we say doesn't inspire you, if that doesn't move you, can I just read to you a few words before we pray and understand you might say, well, how long are you going to keep going? Well, where are you going to go? Listen, I understand they say it's good to be a cardinal. They do say that here in Collins, the Collinsville Cardinals. But it's better to be. It's better to be this. It's better to be a new creation. So how many? Give me a moment. Good. Just a little. Just a little. Because, you know, Brother Hagin, Kenneth Hagin, who was, he was my spiritual father, got to travel with him for a number of years, seven years. And others are here that also did as well. And I mean, I can speak for them, we were all marked by it. We were all changed by our time traveling with him. And then really just his materials and the things we heard, things we studied. But he said something that I just want to Read. Okay. He said, when you've preached as long as I have, almost seven decades, you can start to see some things come in waves. And I can sense in my spirit there's another wave coming. Get ready for it. Now. He's talking decades ago now, that wave that he's talking about. So when he says, I see it off there or I see it coming, just know we're in it. This is what we're in now. We're in this now. So you'll have to transpose some of those words in your head. He said, get ready for it. But then he said, it isn't coming. Just because God said it's coming. We are going to have to enter into the deeper realm of prayer we've been talking about and give birth to that which God wants to do. That's why I said we need more people taking their place in this great loop that we're talking about, where God is able, where we're able to. We're able to spend time sowing in prayer. Let me illustrate one thing real quick. I don't imagine is this is. Y' all have seen the electric cars. They have, huh? Whether you like them, whether you don't like them, that doesn't matter. But where we live south of Denver, Colorado, they're real big. Real big thing there. And these electric cars, I went and test drove one of them that I like. It's called a Rivian the truck, and didn't buy one. But anyhow, they have something called regenerative braking. Regenerative braking, meaning that when your foot comes off the gas and when you use the brake, it's actually recharging the battery. So you have a dual thing going on here. In one sense, you're using the brake to stop the car, but you're also recharging some things. Amen. And in our life of God, when we're praying in other tongues, we might think we're just trying to get answers for us. But there's also a regenerative aspect of it in that it's generating power for his flow, for this, what he's talking about. So that's why Brother Hagin says we need more people to take their place in prayer. And he says this. He says when you pray in tongues, you give impetus to the next move of God's spirit before that spiritual wave is ever seen with your natural eyes. When you pray in tongues, you give impetus. Or we could say you generate power. And you know that can happen here. Do you know that when we pray here in the Mornings, there's a sense in which we're actually making power available for what happens in the evening service, and then vice versa. Cycle. Amen. So it says God, he said, God is calling us to answer his call, to pray in these last days. Jesus is coming soon, but before he comes, there's something he wants to do. And what he does on this earth, he will do through us, his body. The last thing I'll read is this. It says, I'm convinced the wave that is coming will be twice as high as the healing wave, the charismatic wave, or the faith wave. In fact, it will be twice as high as all of them put together. I believe it is going to be the wave that sweeps us right on into the shores of the glory world. And we're in that now, but we don't see the fullness of that. Maybe some of us that were in those previous waves, as he calls them, so. Well, man, seemed like the churches were a lot more full then or things were maybe a lot more developed then. But we're faith. We're faith people, and we say we're in it because God says we're in it. And we contend for the fullness of it because God said it's available. And Brother Hagin was convinced that unless people take their place in prayer, we'll never reach it, even though it's been made available. So how about we spend at least a little time? I know I've taken a lot of time, but I'll put that on you. You took a while to get engaged this morning. How about that? Is that fair? Take a little bit of it for me. Take a little bit of it off me. But you okay to just pray a little bit today and do some of this? Can you stand up to change your position? And that way, anybody that didn't like what I said and wants to leave, you can. I'm playing. So we're going to just. We're going to just do this. Amen. And just know that as you're praying, just like when we praise and worship in Thanksgiving, you're making movement toward the spiritual realm. And you might pray and you might think, this is so dry. I just don't sense God at all. Just don't stop. Just keep doing it, and you'll soon find yourself aware of God. And then just keep going, keep going, and you'll find yourself just so intermingled with Him. Hallelujah.

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Praise the Lord. So as we get started, if you want to sit back down, you can do what you can do to stay engaged.

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Yes.

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Not be uncomfortable. Comfortable. But Father, we're so grateful. We're so thankful for the Biscay La Masa.

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For the end.

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For what you have for the earth.

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Stay safe.

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The church. The church.

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The church. Strengthen. Strengthened with might. Strengthen with might.

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Stepping into the Bakasti.

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Stepping into the.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. For the laborers.

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Yes. In the rabbit. Our place.

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Taking our place.

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Then let so good.

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Thank you.

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Ma.

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You thank you.

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Ha. Let's give thanks. Let's give thanks. Let's give thanks to him. Thank you. Oh my. My, my, my, Oh my, oh my. The greatness of your plan the greatness of your power the greatness of the flow yet to be experienced but is available and we'll say. We'll. We'll say, we'll say that nothing you've ordained will miss we say nothing you've ordained will go without this. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to every nation. Then the end shall come. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to every nation. Then the end shall come once more. Repeat it after me. This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to every nation. Then the end shall come once more. This gospel of the kingdom shall be proud Preached in all the world for a witness to every nation. Then the end shall come. Come, Lord Jesus.

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Come, Lord Jesus.

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Come, Lord Jesus.

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Hallelujah. Give the Lord your best shout today. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Glory, glory, glory.

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Glory to God.

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