Podcast Summary

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: The Power Of Unity, Part 1 | Joel Siegel | Mississauga, Canada | Wednesday AM | Miracle Crusade
Date: October 2, 2023
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers around the spiritual principle of unity in the Body of Christ and the transformative power that is released when believers participate together, especially through united prayer in the Spirit. Pastor Joel Siegel (with contributions from his spouse) encourages full engagement—moving from passive observation to active involvement—in church gatherings and spiritual practices, emphasizing that every believer is both called and equipped to carry God’s presence and power.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Overflowing Nature of God

• Joel Siegel illustrates the boundlessness of God’s presence:
  God doesn’t merely fill us to a certain measure—He overflows. “He’s the God who doesn’t know when to stop because his definition of full is determined by the capacity of the vessel. And even then... he keeps going until it’s just pouring over.” (10:45)
• Reference to Paul’s exhortation: believers are “vessels” meant to be filled “with all the fullness of God” (Ephesians), not just partial measures.

Moving from Spectators to Participants

• Believers are called to be “all in” and actively engaged:
  “Here, we all in. We all the way. All the way. All the way.” (15:05)
• Being disengaged (or “lukewarm,” as in Revelation) isn’t acceptable. Full participation is likened to athletes in a game versus just spectators in the stands.

Your Engagement Strengthens the Spiritual Flow

• The spiritual flow of God’s power during gatherings is strengthened by united participation.
• Lack of involvement—even from 20-30%—can hinder what happens in a service.
  “If you have 30, 35% ... of people who are disengaged, that can affect the flow of the service.” (21:20)

Unity and Participation in Prayer

• Teaching about “united prayer”—all praying in the Spirit at once, as taught by Brother Hagin.
• Joel shares a story from his church where a small group’s lack of unity in prayer led the Spirit to “be bothered” and halt progress (31:00).

The Spiritual Significance of Speaking in One Tongue

• Genesis 11 (Tower of Babel):
  The people’s unity and single language meant “nothing they imagined would be impossible” (34:00). God divided their languages because they weren’t united in His purpose.
• Acts 2 (Day of Pentecost):
  God reverses Babel by giving believers a heavenly, unified language—praying in tongues.
  “This time they were born again. This time they were after the plan of God.” (40:49)
• Speaking in tongues is described as God’s “elevated discourse”—a dignified, powerful form of united expression.

Everyone Is Included, Everyone Receives

• Fullness is for every believer, not just the ‘front row’ or seasoned Christians:
  “God wants unity, full participation. That doesn’t mean some people are totally in and other people ... are just not feeling it.” (42:12)
  “They were all filled. All filled. All filled.” (42:11)

Why United Prayer Is Essential

• God gave us a language (praying in tongues) that bypasses the mind and enables unity in purpose and accomplishment.
• “He gave us a language your mind will not understand on purpose... because he doesn’t want you imagining what you would like done on the earth.” (47:28)

The Dignity and Power of Praying in the Spirit

• Contrasts between earthly perceptions of speaking in tongues (as undignified) and God’s view (“elevated discourse”): “According to God, speaking in other tongues gives us words belonging to ‘a dignified and elevated discourse.’” (52:03)

Application to Church and Region

• The aim is not merely personal edification, but for believers to carry God’s power to transform cities and regions.
• “We’re endeavoring to bring a flow and leave a flow that will absolutely change Toronto, change this region. Amen. ... If we can get everybody to be a full participant and then a carrier of the flow of God.” (17:33)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On God’s abundance:
  “People say he’s perfect. I disagree. ... His one flaw is he has no concept of when to stop.” - Joel Siegel (12:30)
• On being participatory, not passive:
  “This ain’t a halfway house, is it? ... If it’s time to worship... when the beat drops, you just—you all in.” - Joel Siegel (15:15)
• On the limits of mental understanding:
  “God delivers what he delivers to us spiritually… not just what comes in your ears, but along with what’s spoken.” - Joel Siegel (22:21)
• On united prayer:
  “He had me stop. Why? Because we weren’t accomplishing what he wanted to have accomplished. Because of the lack of unity, the lack of participation.” (33:10)
• On the purpose of tongues:
  “He gave us a language your mind will not understand on purpose. … He doesn’t want you imagining what you would like done on the earth.” (47:28)
• On everyone’s value in unity:
  “It’s not just for the pastors, or the preachers, or the little group of ladies that likes to pray. He wants everyone to know this flow, everyone to get involved.” (47:03)
• On the dignity of the Spirit:
  “Speaking in other tongues gives us words belonging to a dignified and elevated discourse. So who’s being improper? Who’s undignified?” (52:03)
• On the purpose of unity:
  “We can get it done. We can get this job done.” (55:32)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening remarks & gratitude for the Holy Spirit: 00:10–04:00
• God’s overflow and the call to be filled: 04:00–13:00
• The danger of lukewarmness and half-heartedness: 13:00–16:30
• Spectators vs. participants—sports analogy: 16:30–18:50
• Participation strengthens the spiritual flow: 21:00–24:10
• Story: Lack of engagement in midweek prayer meeting: 25:53–34:00
• Genesis 11—Unity, Babel, and the power of one language: 34:00–38:59
• Acts 2—Pentecost, unity in the Spirit: 39:39–43:59
• Everyone included in fullness—no exceptions: 42:05–43:59
• The dignity and power of praying in tongues: 51:47–54:53
• Final encouragement: Applying unity and participation to change a region: 55:32–58:31
• Corporate prayer and declarations: 58:31–72:59

Key Takeaways

• God desires believers to be fully engaged and filled to overflowing, actively participating in every spiritual flow—not passive or “lukewarm.”
• Unity and participation aren’t mere preferences; they are spiritual necessities for releasing God’s power individually and corporately.
• Praying in the Spirit is God’s method of granting the Church a unified language, able to accomplish the impossible and align with His elevated purposes.
• Every believer, regardless of history or experience, is invited into this unity and spiritual fullness.
• The ultimate goal: a Church so united and filled with God’s presence that it transforms cities, regions, and nations.

Memorable Close

“Thank you, Father, for the increase in miraculous healings... for increase in the hunger, for the knowledge of God and his word... for increase in the flow of your love, one to another. ... Thank you for the fullness, thank you for your goodness, thank you for your mercy, thank you for healing, thank you for extraordinary miracles... More and more. Ha ha ha. Glory to God.” (70:00–73:14)

For those seeking a call to action, this episode is a rousing invitation to be “all in”—to make your spiritual life a participatory, unified, and Spirit-empowered journey.