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The Prayer Of Intercession, Part 2 | Kenneth Copeland | Holy Ghost Meetings 2024 | Saturday PM
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. We've talked about the prayer of faith and so forth. And we'll go back to the. To the Gospel of John. And. Let's begin reading with the 13th chapter of the 16th. 13th verse of the 16th chapter. John 16:13. Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth. For he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak. And he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me, for he shall receive of mine and show it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine. Therefore said I, he will take of mine and show it unto O, all things that the Father has are mine. He'll take what's mine, and the Spirit will take what's mine and show it to you. Why are you looking so sad? He's the spirit of truth. And that sounds too good to be true, but it is the truth. Jesus also said, And you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free, not set you free. It will make you free because the book has the authority to make you free. Young man by the name of Jimmy Hester, he was had bad heart. And my mother had a prayer group. This is after she got delivered of fear in that CFO camp. I mean, she was dangerous. She turned into a different person. That spirit of fear was gone. And they brought him in there, and one of Jimmy's friends brought him in there. And she said something to Jimmy, and he said, well, my grandfather died of bad heart. My dad died of a bad heart, and I have a bad heart now. She said, tell me the truth about that. He said, well, lady, my grandfather died of a bad heart, and my dad died of a bad heart, and I have a bad heart now. She said. I said, tell me the truth about that. Well, he got a little. And he said, well, lady. And before he could get it out, now, Jimmy told me this. He said, before she could get it out, he said, she boxed my ears. Said, she slapped me upside the head. She said, I know she saw death on me. And she said, Isaiah 53. And that's the truth about that. Come on. Jerry Savelle and I helped at his going home service. He was in his 80s, a new heart. That's the truth about that. And the truth made him free. The truth made him free. So when you put those two things together, all that the Father has belongs to Jesus. Well, of Course it does. But when the Spirit of God comes, he will take the things that are his and show them unto us. Now that brings us to the prayer of wisdom. So let's go to the book of James. James, a servant of God and the Lord Jesus christ to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad. Greeting, my brethren. Count it all joy when you fall into different temptations, tests and trials, knowing this trying of your faith works. Patience. Let patience have her perfect work, that you may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God who gives, gives to. Let him ask of God to give to all men liberally and upbraideth not, and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavers is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. Let not that man think he shall receive anything of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways. Well, what is a double minded man? A man of two minds. Well, Peter said, master, don't you care that we perish in one word? He's master now. Don't you care? He's afraid. A double minded man. So when you read in this little book, you read all the way through this and do not err, my 16th. Do not err, my beloved brethren. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness nor shadow of turning. He was referring to a sundial. The Romans invented that. Now he's not about to change. Amen. Well, we're right here. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty and continues therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in all of his deed. Now, the Weymouth translation, now that is, was out of print, so it is now a KCM publication. So, and I'll tell you later why I like it so judged by the law of liberty for it to give judgment without mercy. Now look here. What is it? Profit my brethren, though a man say he shall have faith and has not worked in Weymouth, what doth it profit my brethren, though a man say he hath faith and has not corresponding action, isn't that good? Corresponding action? Well, that gets rid of the word work. And it's good. So number eight, if you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself. You do well. But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever is to keep the whole law and yet offend in one point is guilty of all. So read the whole thing. All right. Oh, it's just pregnant with Revelation, Chapter five. Go to. Now, you rich men weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted and your garments are moth eaten. Your gold and silver is cankered, and the rust of them shall be a witness against you. And you shall eat your flesh at war of fire. You have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold the hire of the laborers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept by fraud. Crieth, and cries of them have reaped. Entered into the ear of the Lord of Sabaoth. Not Sabbath, Sabaoth, the Lord of the angelic forces, the Lord of hosts. That's interesting, because that's in the book of Malachi concerning tithing. The Lord of hosts. Is any among you afflicted? Let him pray. Is any merry? Let him sing psalms. Is any sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church. Let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick. And the Lord shall raise him up, and if he've committed any sins, they shall be forgiven him. And the prayer of faith shall save. Faith in what? The name of the Lord. Well, I had. I had to go back and look at the different places where they did television to see how far back it went. Right here I had a little white spot about the size of a grain of rice, but there. And I picked that a little bit, and it got sore and festered up. So I called my pastor. So Pastor George and Terry came over. John and Kelly were on the phone together. Family, Gloria and her good friend. And Bebe, well, you know, her name is Brenda June, but everybody calls her Bebe. Brother. Did. She called him boy. I thought she was saying Boyd, but she called him boy. And he called her baby. Anyway, she was there. And so pastor came out, and I held that out there like that. He read that scripture in his Bible, took his oil bottle, did this. And when he touched that, before I could think, I went, ha, ha ha ha. That did it. Glory to God. So I told Dr. Weider here, I said, when you go, have this thing checked out. Went over, went in and took it in. Dr. Williams first, the dermatologist, and just a magnificent man. He was very dark, very dark, had a deep voice. And I like it when Somebody got a deep voice. I said, my name's Kenneth Copeland. He said, oh, I know who you are. He said, my folks have been partners with you for I don't know how long. So I got a partner guy. So he checked it out. He said, yeah, it's malignant. So. Well, so what? So he said, send me over to another guy. So we went in there. David and I went in there. They came in and said, well, now, Mr. Copeland, you probably have to wait. How long did they say? 30 minutes to two hours. Because Dr. Is going to open that up and he's going to shave and keep doing that until there are no malignant cells. So I don't know, 30 or 40 minutes, I guess. She came out. She said, Mr. Copeland, you are a very lucky man. There are no more malignant cells. No, I'm not lucky. I'm blessed. He sewed it up. You can't hardly see it, but I got a testimony. Out of the book. So Gloria's grandmother, mom, church Christ, sit right on the front row, centerpoint Church Christ. And the pastor told me. He said, Copeland, he said, Mrs. Niece sits on that front row, and she'll stop me, and she'll say, pastor, you didn't read that right? He said, I have to read every word exactly like it's written. So she gets on me. So she came to me with that verse of scripture. She said, kenneth, you believe that? I said, well, yes, ma'. Am. She said, no, you're going to our elders. They don't believe anything. Yeah. She said, gloria, you believe that? She said, yeah, mom, I believe it. I got my oil bottle, prayed over that, and I laser her back was giving her a problem, but I anointed her with oil, spoke to her back, and she said, Poor. She said, that really worked? I said, yes, ma'. Am. I said, now, mom, listen, you're going to testify. And don't you go off and say some doctor had anything to do with it. It was the great physician. She said, absolutely. She said, I'm not about to give anybody else credit. So anyway, I have no idea how many over the years, listen, if he have committed any sins, they shall be forgiven him. Now, a baby Christian, See? Well, I got some free time. I didn't start it. A Christian that really doesn't know needs to feel that all. And needs to hear that his sins have been forgiven. We've already read that. If you see a brother sin which is to sin not unto death, ask and I'll. On account of you. I was invited into a room One and went back into the back room and it was very dark. And this man said, this man has gangrene in his legs and so forth. So I stood there at the end of the bed and so I just picked up the COVID of the bed and touched his toe and he went. I said, you devil, you, in the name of Jesus and cast that devil out of him. He got all right. We were in Jamaica and the Lord said, I want you to go up into the mountains and preach to the people there. And so went there and did that Sunday morning at the Open Bible Church. I knew the pastor there and he said, brother Copeland, come on up here. So I went up there, he said, take the morning service. I was already pretty tired. I said, okay, you want me to. What time you want to get them off for lunch? He said, don't give them off at all if you don't want to. Well, this. They were celebrating their independence from Great Britain. It was Independence Day. And so I started preaching. We got done and I just got his cap on and about the third hour I lost my voice. So I gave him off for lunch and I went back in there and I said, lord, if I was to ask my voice if it's healed, it'd say no. Oh, help me, Jesus. So I went back out there and I took the microphone. I said, if I were to ask my voice if it is healed, it'd say no. If I were to ask you if I'm healed, he would say no. But I didn't ask you and I didn't ask me. I asked the word of God and it says, by his stripes you were healed. Oh, glory to God. About the third arrow, there was a crutch went right straight up like that. You remember the woman that was bowed over could no wise lift herself up. There was one, she came, she was in a sheet. I found out later is her son and her grandson. But she brought her shoes with her. She was on her side there. And I noticed, I was looking at her, I was standing up on the platform. She just got up and put her shoes on and stood there and lifted her hand. Well, I was supposed to preach a new hope that night, So I did. Well, it was up in the mountains and no electricity. That's where the Lord wanted me to go. And in some cases I was the first light skinned man some of those people had seen. And they had a lantern hanging right in front of me where I could see to read, but I couldn't see the people. And so I just started talking about the Power and authority invested in the name of Jesus, Glory to God. And just preached on it. And there was a man walked up. They had made a pulpit. They just took a stump and nailed a board on it where I put my Bible and this kerosene lantern here where I could read. And there was a man walked up. I couldn't see for that light. He walked up there and it's a big man. So I stepped out in front of that. All of a sudden I could see. And this was not a brush arbor, it was a banana leaf arbor because they were having meetings in the daytime. Those big Danae leaves are big. I stepped out there and this big man, he said, lay hands on me in thy name. I said, okay, in the name. In the name. And in the name. In the name. In the name. I don't know how many. Finally, I don't know, a lot. A lot of people. And I got in the pastor's car and this woman came over there, better Copeland. I was blind. Now I say thank you. I said, you know her? Yeah, she in my church. I said, was she blind? Nah, she stole cold blind, don't see nothing. I said, well, I thought she'd be more thrilled. Oh, brother Coblin. We train brother British. She go home, she go crazy. Quite an experience. Anyway, there's two mountains that came down like this, and the small church was right here at the bottom. And the man that was, he was the grandfather and he pastored it. And Deacon Lewis was there, and he had a military style flashlight and he was prosperous man. I said, deacon Lewis, tell me about yourself. He said, well, I quit my job. He said, I had a good job in Kingston. Why? Well, he said, we've been fasting a week, a day, a week for a year that somebody would come teach us faith. Well, I was so honored that God chose me. Well, I would say that we were between those two mountains and the home where there was. It's quite a large home. And it was up a flight of stairs that was about as high as the top of that large painting right there from here, and small steps. So I grabbed Deacon Lewis flashlight, I stepped on this one, and my second step I took was up there. I have no remembrance at all. I just suddenly was there. I noticed when I got there, I couldn't eat. So I walked up there and this girl, I thought she was about 12 years old. Come to find out she was 18 and she had a rheumatic heart. And they were telling her, sweetie, you could just die any minute, you could just die. Anytime. Just die. Anytime. Well, the mother screamed, my baby's dead. My baby's dead. My God, my baby's dead. I walked in there, and her dad, she was slumped over. She was studying. He picked her up like this. And he turned around and faced me. And she was hanging here like this. Well, when I took hold of her hand, she was already cool. And I said, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I speak life to you. Walk. And I was speaking a whole lot louder than I am now. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk. Now, Oral Roberts laid his hands on me and said, the anointing that was in and on him was transferred to me. And I shouted at the top of my lungs, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom I serve, whose I am and who I serve. I said, walk. And I hit her in her stomach. And she went, pah paw. And we have pictures. Yeah, there she is. Sweet girl. She went on, finished her education, became a schoolteacher. Well, we were coming one night, and the pastor said, brother Copeland, could we stop by and pray for a woman before we get to church? I said, okay. What's the matter with her? She crazy. I said, what, she mad? Well, there's no electricity there. So we went, and it was night, and we're walking through this place, and I saw a number of them that looked like might be the one. Man. But we got all way back to the back room, and here was. Now, I didn't know anything about her. She was just on an old ticking mattress. There's an old striped cotton mattress. No bed clothes on it or anything. And she was haunched up there, and she had a little stick about that long and a bandana with a bunch of stuff in it. So we walked up there, and this man, former Marine by the name of Earl, he was helping me and the pastor. So we walked up there, and I just walked up right in front of her. And Earl was here, and the pastor was here. She looked at me, and she looked over there at Earl. She said, you must be Brother Weber. Well, he was a radio preacher. She looked over there at the pastor. You must be Oral Roberts. I know who you are. And you're afraid of anything that isn't flesh and blood. I said, I fear no man nor beast. A servant of the most high God. Look at me, I said. You look at me. The Lord has sent me to tell you that he loves you. I said, baby, look at me. I said, the Lord loves you, and he sent me to tell you. I saw the glaze Come off of her eyes. Wow, there's. And she looked up and smiled. We had to leave. I just got an appointment somewhere else. He said, brother Copeland, he said, there were some people came through preaching salvation and said she worked in Kingston. Young woman. And so she wanted to go to church. She accepted Jesus as Lord and she wanted to look good. So she had her hair trimmed and fixed and bought a new dress. And she walked up to the door and they said, you have cut your hair. Jesus doesn't love any woman that cuts her hair. What is that on your fingers? And they took fingers. Fingernail polish removers. You not coming in this church looking like that. Well, the Lord sent me to tell her he loved her. That's all she needed to hear. That's the way this works. That's the way it works. But she see what happened in my spirit. I knew all things. I was just listening because I did some praying, because I didn't know what I was going to get up to. So I just started praying in the spirit. Then when little Lindsay Kelly's Rachel was first, and then Lindsay and Christmas morning, she was 11 years old. Oh, my, my, my, my. They went up. We were in Colorado and I don't know, I don't even remember why they. The airplane wasn't there, so I couldn't fly it back. They were doing maintenance or something, I don't know what it was. And called and said, you better get here quick. Said, lindsay's been diagnosed with Neisserian meningitis and there's already been some. She's at Cook's Children's Hospital and there's already been some children that have died. So I got on the airplane, they came and picked me up. So I just got in there and started praying in the spirit. Praying. That stuff is terribly contagious. I walked up there, I was standing here, I said, lindsay, in the name of Jesus, I speak to the anointing on the inside of you to put this disease out and off of you. She said, papa, I'm healed. In the name of Jesus. 11 now. She's the wife of a fine medical doctor. I married them and he was Alex. I think he was born in Mexico City. But anyway, they have a little girl now named Colette, and she just turned three. What a Christmas present. That's the way this works. Well, then we drove in from Tulsa to preach there and came up in my mother's kitchen there. I was tired, drove that old beat up car and phone rang. Now there were two sisters, one of them named Eiley Riggins and the other one, Annie Johnson. And they were. They were akin to my grandmother on the Owens side. And so Aubrey, Pastor George's daughter, had named her oldest girl Eilee after her. Anyway, I said, mother, fix me some scrambled eggs. I'm hungry. So she did, and she said, kenneth island is about to die. We got to hurry, Mother. I'm sweaty. I'm going to go back and I'm going to change my shirt. Well, hurry up. And I walked back there, and this is when I heard the Lord say, don't you ever let the devil see you sweat. He said, you slow down. I came back in there. She said, kenneth, will you hurry up? I said, no. I said, you drive and don't get in a hurry. I'm praying in the spirit all the way over there. They got in there, and Lois, her daughter, was at the planning the funeral. I said, lois, put the phone down. But Kenneth. I said, lois, they put her in there to wait for the doctor to come by and sign the death certificate. I said, lois, put the phone. Please put the phone down. So the Lord told me what to do with her. And so. And of course, my mother just. I mean, that's her aunt. And I walked over there, and my mother said. And she was always thin because this was a sweet Southern Baptist saint of God. And mother said, see that right there? It's just choking the life out of her. I walked over there. I touched her right there on the breastbone. I said, ain't Eilee, open your eyes? She said, kenneth, what are you doing here? I said, I came here to pray for you. Oh, she said, I appreciate that, Lois said. So she left the death room and went home in her own home. So a little while later, two years later, the Lord said to my mother, you better go check on Eileen. So she went over there, and she was in the living room in her easy chair. And mother said, ilie, you think it's about time to go? Oh, yeah. She said, he's been right there waiting on me. She said, I told him, you just need to wait a little while. Yeah. She said, I'm ready. She said, come on, I'll tuck you in. And so she tucked her in. And mother said, allie, just lay your head back and let it go. She said, thank you, Vanetta. She began to speak in tongues on the way out. Hallelujah. Now, my grandmother. I was with my grandfather. And he began to laugh. Oh, he was laughing. He just got. He threw his head back. He was working on some machinery in the barn. I said, papa, what are you laughing about? He said, I'm laughing about how close you came to being a Mexican. I said, why on earth are you? He said, well, now, he was illiterate. His grandfather, R.P. owens, in the Civil War. And there was a captain hung him by his thumbs in the barn, trying he was from the Cumberland Valley of Tennessee to tell him. And he'd just cuss him just as loud as he could. And he got the nickname Cussing Horns. So he didn't know any better. And he'd get least bit mad, he'd just fly off the handle and just grab up something. Or my grandfather, he just. He'd just pick up a bullwhip or anything and just go to swinging at him. So he said, I told Ma, he said, I'm going to have to get out of here. Because he said, if you test me that way again, I'm liable to kill him. Now, I don't want his blood on my hands. So we left. And Illiterate left when he's 9 years old and this magnificent man, he'd walk out there in that field, take his hat off and pray over that crop work. He never would go to church. And anyway, I think he's so embarrassed because he was illiterate. They finally found a letter that he wrote to God. My grandmother's name was Nancy Pearl Winchester. My mother's name's Vanetta Pearl Copeland. He called her Pearl. And he wrote a letter to God. It looked like about a third grader wrote it, God, please take care of Pearl. Help me do that, please. He knew he was about to go, So God took care of Pearl. And she spoke in tongues a little bit and then swore up and down she didn't. And she I'm not going to be married to an Indian. There's no way I'm married to an Indian. I'm not about to be married to an Indian. They went to, I don't know, someplace to check on something. And I think it's Santa Fe, New Mexico. And some of his kinfolks saw him. They sat down and crossed legs in the sidewalk and powwowed. My grandmother was. She hid out. I'm never going to be married to an Indian. I said, you are. I am not. Yeah, she's right. I guess that all of these things have to do with a family that loves God. My mother's oldest brother was killed in World War II. He nicknamed. Everybody called me Kenny Mack. And my uncle Floyd Russell Owens wouldn't wear anything but blue overalls. And I started Doing this because it's so friendly to television. But that isn't the only reason. There are only three colors. Red, white and blue. I have a red car and a blue suit. Amen. Glorious. Car is blue. Our airplanes are red, white and blue. Except for one we found it up in. We needed an intermediate airplane, which is a Pilatus PC12. We went up there to look at it. You know what the tail number on that thing was? November 91. Kilo Charlie. I said, that's my airplane. They're built in Switzerland. I said, does the owner want to keep that tail number? No. Well, come to find out, it had been on a citation years ago. And he was in a hurry to get it, so they stuck that on there. Anyway, I want to close with this. He will take what's mine. All that the Father has is mine. And we're going to close with his prayer. Seventeenth chapter of John. This prayer. I decided I was learning at Oru. The power of agreement. And I said, I'm going to. Father. I was in that little old room. I'm going to agree with this. This is Jesus praying. These words spoke Jesus. And lifted up his eyes to heaven and said, father, the hour has come. Glorify thy Son. That thy Son may also glorify thee. As thou hast given him power over all flesh. That he should give eternal life to as many as you have given him. And this is life eternal. That they might know you, the only true God, Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have glorified thee on the earth. And I've finished the work which you've given me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self. With the glory which I had with Thee before the world was. I have manifested your name unto the men which you gave me. Out of this world thine were. And you gave them to me. And they've kept your word. Now they have known that all things, whatsoever you've given me is of Thee. For I have given unto them the words which you gave me. And they have received them. And have known surely that I came out from Thee. And they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them. I pray not for the world. But for them which you have given me. For they are thine, and all that are mine are thine. And thine are mine. And I am glorified in them. Now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world. And I come to Thee, Holy Father. Keep through thine own name. Keep through thine Own name, those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one even as we are one. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name. Listen to that. I kept them. Now we think about. Well, you know, he's praying in the Name. No, he said, I have kept them. Your name. I've kept them in it. I have. The proverb says, God's name is a great tower and climb up above it. He kept them inside the Name. They weren't born again men yet. That didn't happen until the 20th chapter. Thou hast given me in the world. Even so, I've also sent them into the world. For their sakes I sanctify myself that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also. Who which shall believe on me through their word. Well, that's directly or indirectly. That's all of us. That they may be one. And thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee. That they also may be one in us. That the world may believe that you sent me. And the glory which you have given me, I have given them. That they may be one even as we are one. I in them and thou in me. And they may be made perfect in me. And that the world may know thou sent me and hast loved them as you love me. I got hung up right there. I said, come on. You mean to tell me God loves me as much as he does Jesus? How could that be? My knees were shaking. I said I was going to do this. And I said, you mean God loves me as much as he does Jesus? And I kept saying it and I kept saying it and. And kept saying it until my spirit got ahold of it. And I thought, well, of course he gave him to get me and you and all the rest of us on that cross. Father, I will. That they also whom thou hast given me with me where I am, that they may behold my glory which thou hast given me. For thou lovest me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known Thee, but I know and these have known that thou hast sent me. I have declared unto them your name and will declare it. That the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them and I in them. Study that prayer and agree with it. Study it. Study it verse by verse. And agree with it and stand on it. Fight the good fight of faith with it. He is our Master and our Savior. He's our baptizer in the Holy Ghost. Hallelujah and it's because of him. And showing him all that he has and all that the father has. And Clyde Thomas McGee knew that. And because of that, we have satellite. And he synchronized the first one mathematically. He synchronized it with the Earth so it would track the Earth. Mr. Satellite. Wonder how many other things we enjoy today came like that. Almost everything. Thomas Edison, Henry Ford. Eddie Rickenbacker. He was the ace of aces in World War I. And he bought an old wooden racetrack and where they did old motorcycle races and stuff and put brick in it. And today they call it the brickyard, the Indianapolis Speedway. Captain Eddie, His dad, told him, son, machines. The Lord's given us machines. You hook your star to the machines. He started Eastern Airlines. Then they crashed and he was in the hospital and he heard on the radio that he had died. He called that nurse in there and he said, will you tell them I'm not a die? God's not going to let me die. I'm not done. Well, he saved his pennies the way Rockefeller saved his dimes. Never wouldn't spend a penny. He just gave away tens of thousands, millions of dollars worth of pennies to people. Then it went on up to higher than that. Captain Eddie Rickenbacker. You can still get his autobiography, World War II. He went to work for the government for a dollar a year. And he was going around the different places and he was in a B17 going across the ocean and they ran out of fuel. Satellites. And this thing, this thing just sunk. Well, it took a long time, is out of gas. It finally went down. They got the little life rafts out and everything. And he'd read his New Testament, and he'd read his New Testament and he kept telling them, God will take care of us. God will take care of us. And there was a seagull landed on his head and he just reached up there and got that seagull. And there were fish hooks on that raft, but no bait. So they ate what they could of the seagull and used the rest of him for bait and caught fish until they were finally found in the open ocean. That's Captain Eddie Rickenbecker, a man of God. Father, we thank you. We praise you for these services. We are so grateful to you. In Jesus sweet name, amen. And give me your hand. I would like to introduce to you the Reverend Nancy Dufresne. I had the honor and the privilege of ordaining her before the service tonight, Separating her gospel ministry. Now you have to read all that. The Apostle Paul said about women that they ought to keep silent in the churches. But then he said, a woman shouldn't prophesy with her head uncovered. He's talking about decent and in order. He was preaching to Gentiles that didn't know anything. And the women would just scream out, what does he mean by that? Because the women sat on one side of the church and the men on the other. They were illiterate. What does he mean by that? So he said, talk to your husband at home. I asked her tonight, I said, your husband agree with this? She said, absolutely. Ed du Frain, a very, very close friend of mine, I knew him before she did. Oh, what a guy. He would. He was at a full gospel businessmen's meeting one time. He came by and he got a tape recorder in some of our tapes. So he would have prayer meetings and so forth, and then he and I would preach, and he'd say, now, do you have any questions about that? And the Lord said, leave the tape recorder at home. Oh, no. And Ed would kind of get his words going backwards sometimes. And he said, he didn't call me because I was eloque. Whatever that is. He called me because I was available. He left the tape recorder at home. Oh, what a prophet of God. Thank you, Pastor Nancy, for honoring me to be part of these meetings. Good night, everybody. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner, or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.