Podcast Summary: The Prophetic Voice | Richard Roberts | Sunday PM | Holy Ghost Meetings 2023

Podcast: Dufresne Ministries
Date: January 13, 2023
Speakers: Pastor Craig, Richard Roberts, Nancy Dufresne, Pastor Debbie
Theme: The necessity of the prophetic voice in the life of believers, drawing parallels with biblical accounts and personal testimonies to highlight faith, spiritual gifting, and the importance of “full measure” in obedience.

Episode Overview

This episode brings a passionate discussion on the indispensable role of the prophetic voice in the Church and in individual lives. Through personal stories, biblical exposition, and lighthearted moments, the speakers reveal how prophetic words direct destinies, unlock miracles, and keep faith communities aligned with God’s plans. The message encourages listeners to pursue prophetic guidance, to measure out their full devotion and obedience, and to expect great things from God.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Testimony: The Prophetic Legacy

[00:09 – 07:15]

• Pastor Craig opens with a story about stepping out in faith, inspired by a prophecy from his father:

  “He said, when you go to Kenya, you will have the double portion anointing that you have prayed for.” (00:25)

• Recounts seeing the prophecy fulfilled with a crowd of 200,000 in Kenya, and God instructing him to abandon his planned sermon and trust the Holy Spirit for his message.
• Emphasizes the miraculous results—thousands saved and healed—when obeying spontaneous direction from God.

  “That's faith, to believe that when you open your mouth in that situation, that God will fill it with what he wants.” (03:37)

2. Purpose and Timing of Prophetic Words

[07:16 – 10:00]

• Explains how prophetic words are often not immediately fulfilled and require growth and maturation.
• Shares an account where the exact prophetic word his father spoke was later confirmed by another prophetess who had never met him.
• Describes his life-long experience of supernatural ministry aligning with early prophecies.

3. The Necessity of the Prophetic in the Church

[10:01 – 15:55]

• Asserts that the prophetic is not optional, but essential for the miraculous and for God’s purposes.

  “We must have the prophetic. The prophetic is part of the miraculous.” (09:53)

• Relays stories of other ministers discerning God's will through prophetic encounters.

4. Scriptural Foundations for the Prophetic

[15:56 – 21:43]

• Expounds on Amos 3:7:

  “Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secrets unto his servants the prophets.”

• 2 Chronicles 20:20 about prosperity through believing prophets.
• 2 Kings 13: The story of Elisha and King Joash—highlighting the importance of responding fully to prophetic instruction.

  “Elisha said, you should have struck the ground five or six times. Now you will only defeat your enemy three times...” (19:05)

5. The “Full Measure” Principle

[21:44 – 27:39]

• Draws a link between Joash’s incomplete obedience and Jesus’ teaching in Luke 6:38 on “measure”—how we give and act will determine what we receive.
• Critiques the tendency in churches to “throw out the baby with the bathwater” regarding abuse of prophetic gifts.
• Personalizes the lesson:

  “Sometimes we Christians stop without putting in our full measure.” (24:49)

• The dangers of “halfwayness” in faith and obedience:

  “We're still being judged in the world today because of his halfwayness.” (25:17)

6. Real Life and Biblical Examples of Full Engagement

[27:40 – 31:01]

• Compares Abel and Cain’s offerings; Moses refusing to leave anyone behind in Egypt.
• Encourages honest self-reflection on how completely we’re investing in God’s instructions.
• Admits personal shortcomings in this area as an encouragement for growth.

7. Prophetic Influence in Personal Life Decisions

[31:02 – 35:56]

• Shares how key prophetic words steered his marriage, family, and ministry decisions.
• Testimony of healing and breakthrough following a prophetic word from Kenneth Hagin.
• Encourages the faith community to get desperate for a word from God:

  “We have to say, God, I’m not moving from this place until I hear from you.” (31:08, Pastor Debbie)

8. The Importance of All Five-Fold Ministries

[35:57 – 37:39]

• Uses the hand as a metaphor for the five-fold offices: apostle (thumb), prophet (pointer), evangelist (middle), pastor (ring), teacher (pinky).
• Reiterates the need for all gifts operating together in the church:

  “We've got to have it all.”

9. Receiving and Discerning True Prophetic Ministry

[37:40 – 41:44]

• Emphasizes the priority of genuine prophetic guidance, testifying to the authenticity of the ministers present.
• The value of spiritual community: coming together for shared vision and power.
• Encouragement to contend for the voice of God:

  “When you decide I’m going to have it, and you say to the Lord, I’m not moving on this thing until you speak. That’s when He speaks.” (38:06)

• Lighthearted story about teamwork (“putting on our shoes”) to illustrate preparation and unity.

10. Generosity, Offering, and Full Measure Reiterated

[41:45 – 44:17]

• Powerful call to not be timid about raising and giving offerings; money is neutral and crucial for advancing the kingdom.
• Encouragement for listeners: what you measure out will be measured back—ask and expect abundantly.
• Closing call to action:

  “I don't want my answer to come in a teaspoon. I want it to come in an 18 wheeler loaded with benefits and blessings and miracles and healings.” (43:46)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He said, when you go to Kenya, you will have the double portion anointing that you have prayed for.” (Pastor Craig, 00:25)
• “God reveals his secrets to his prophets.” (Pastor Craig, 12:17)
• “Sometimes we Christians stop without putting in our full measure.” (Pastor Craig, 24:49)
• “And we wonder why we’re not prospering.” (Pastor Craig, 25:00)
• “I don't want my answer to come in a teaspoon. I want it to come in an 18 wheeler loaded with benefits...” (Pastor Craig, 43:46)
• “When you decide I’m going to have it...that’s when He speaks. That’s when you hear His voice.” (Pastor Craig, 38:06)
• “There's so much that we can do together that we can't do alone. We don't need to be islands in the stream. We need to be together.” (Pastor Craig, 39:05)

Important Timestamps

• Stepping Out in Faith / Prophetic Legacy: 00:09 – 07:15
• Importance of Prophetic Gifting & Personal Miracles: 07:16 – 10:00
• Scripture Foundations on Prophecy: 15:56 – 21:43
• “Full Measure” Principle & Joash: 21:44 – 27:39
• Practical Applications & Obedience: 27:40 – 31:01
• Prophetic Influence in Life Decisions: 31:02 – 35:56
• Value of Five-Fold Ministry: 35:57 – 37:39
• Call for Authentic Prophetic Community: 37:40 – 41:44
• Giving, Blessing, Conclusion: 41:45 – 44:17

Summary Takeaway

This message is a stirring call for believers to seek and honor genuine prophetic ministries, to respond with the “full measure” of faith and obedience, and to expect remarkable breakthroughs as they knit together in unity. The episode is rich in both biblical insight and practical encouragement, reminding listeners that God’s direction and blessing flow according to their willingness to listen, believe, and fully engage with His prophetic voice.