Podcast Summary: Dufresne Ministries Podcast – The Spirit Of Faith, Part Two | Nancy Dufresne | Jesus the Healer Broadcast (May 25, 2019)

Main Theme Overview

This episode, led by Pastor Nancy Dufresne, delves into the “Spirit of Faith,” specifically focusing on understanding and applying the “law of faith” as outlined in Romans 3:27 and Mark 11:24-25. The message emphasizes gaining skill in using faith, understanding the unchangeable nature of divine laws, and the active role believers play in receiving from God. Listeners are taught how to “perform the act of receiving,” maintain steadfast desire, and step into God’s promises regardless of feelings or external circumstances.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Importance of Skillful Faith (00:40)

• Faith Needs to Be Skillful: Pastor Nancy highlights Paul’s prayer (1 Thessalonians 3:10) for the believer’s faith to be perfected, stressing the danger of “flawed faith” especially when faced with life emergencies.
  • "It’s dangerous for our faith to be flawed. It’s dangerous for it to lack something. Because when the emergency of life shows up, we need to have skill with our faith." (00:35)
• Role of Pastors: Stress on the value of being under pastoral guidance to grow in faith effectively.

2. Faith as a Divine Law (01:45)

• Analogy of the Safe: Entering the correct combination opens the safe regardless of feelings or circumstances; faith works similarly.
  • "No matter how I feel, no matter what is opposing me, that door is going to open on that safe. Aren’t you grateful that faith is the same way? It is a law." (02:35)
• Divine Law vs. Natural Law: Divine laws trump natural laws, just as Jesus demonstrated by walking on water and calming the storm.

3. The Certainty of the Law of Faith (04:30)

• Laws Are Unchangeable: Laws like gravity don’t change due to personal circumstances; faith is a spiritual law that “will work every time.”
  • "A law is unchangeable. I’m not talking about man’s laws... I’m talking about divine law." (03:20)
• No Such Thing as ‘Faith Failure’: Failures occur when people do not apply the prescribed steps of faith.

4. Defining the Law of Faith (06:00)

• Mark 11:24 - The Core Principle: When you pray, believe you receive—before manifestation.
  • "If you will understand this and work this, your faith will work every time." (07:00)
• Unforgiveness Blocks Faith: Jesus links forgiveness directly to answered prayer; unforgiveness can nullify faith’s law (07:30-08:15).

5. Receiving vs. Manifested Answers (09:00)

• Spiritual Action: Faith is about “taking” or “receiving” in your spirit, not waiting for the natural manifestation.
  • “Believe that you receive it. Another translation... one Greek word for ‘receive’ is ‘take’. Believe that you take it and you shall have it.” (10:10)
• Practical Analogy – The Milk Example: Nancy likens faith to asking her son Grant to bring milk; once he agrees, she expects milk though she hasn’t seen it yet, mirroring trust in God’s promises before visible results. (12:00-13:30)

6. The Invisible and Visible Forms of Answers (14:00)

• God Sees What We Can’t: Answers exist for God in the visible; we must believe while they’re still invisible to us.
  • “Your answer is not invisible to God. It’s just invisible to you. Your answer lives with him.” (16:45)
• Resting in God’s Viewpoint: Even when facing trials, God has “already seen your end and you win.” (18:20)

7. The Act of Receiving (20:00)

• Desire is Essential: Many mislabel “faith problems” when they actually lack true desire or persistence.
  • "If your faith is going to work, you have to want it more than you want your situation you’re in." (22:30)
• Steps to Operate in Faith:
  • Have a true desire
  • Pray (talk to God, not just people)
  • Perform the act of receiving by continually believing and confessing “I believe I receive it” (23:45-26:00)
• Opposition is Expected: The devil will place hindrances, but persistence and joy are necessary.

8. Holding Fast and Stepping Over Opposition (28:00)

• Don’t Quit: Believers are authorized to “tread on serpents and scorpions”—they step over obstacles, rather than quit.
  • "Tread means things are in your way and you step over and keep going." (28:45)
• Continuous Confession: Consistently performing the act of receiving, regardless of circumstances, is necessary.

9. Manifestation Is God’s Part (31:00)

• The Believer’s Responsibility: Stay in faith and “perform the act of receiving;” the manifestation (making the answer visible) is God’s responsibility.
  • "My part is ‘I believe, I receive it.’ Every time you say it, you’re inputting the combination into that door of faith..." (32:40)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Law of Faith:
  • "Faith always works. We fail to take the steps that are prescribed in the law of faith." (05:10)
• On Receiving:
  • "You have to believe it’s yours before it shows up. And this is where a lot of people trip, because they’re trying to... they will believe it once their body changes. They’ll believe it when the pain leaves. They’ll believe it when the money shows up." (10:40)
• On the Role of Desire:
  • "Many times people think they have faith problems when they really have desire problems. They don’t want it real bad." (22:00)
• On Manifestation:
  • "Anything to do with the manifestation, leave it alone. You can’t make healing manifest. You can’t make the miracle you need manifest... You can say, ‘I believe, I receive it.’" (32:00)
• On Facing Opposition:
  • "Just because there’s opposition is not a license for you to quit. Who authorized us to quit? ... He said, tread upon serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy." (28:15)

Important Segment Timestamps

• The Role of Skillful Faith: 00:35-02:00
• Understanding Faith as a Law: 02:35-04:45
• No Faith Failures, Only Application Failures: 05:10-06:00
• The Code of Faith – Mark 11:24: 07:00-10:15
• Receiving Before Manifestation (Milk Analogy): 12:00-14:00
• Faith in the Unseen; God’s Perspective: 16:45-18:40
• Performing the Act of Receiving: 20:00-23:10
• The Role of Desire and Persistence: 22:00-24:00
• Opposition and Stepping Over: 28:00-30:00
• God’s Part vs. Our Part: 31:00-33:00

Closing Tone

Throughout the episode, Pastor Nancy speaks with conviction, warmth, and a measure of humor—using everyday analogies and joyful exclamations (“Hallelujah!”) to reinforce her points. Her approach encourages expectancy, persistence, and joyful confidence in God’s unchanging laws.

Summary:
This episode is a practical and faith-building message that clarifies the believer’s responsibility in receiving from God: desire deeply, pray specifically, and steadfastly perform the act of receiving by faith—regardless of delay or opposition—because the law of faith is unchangeable, and manifestation is guaranteed by God.