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The Spirit Of Seeing & Knowing, Part Two | Nancy Dufresne | Campmeeting 2019 | World Harvest Church | Murrieta, CA
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Hi, I'm Grant Dufresne and welcome to Dufresne Ministries podcast channel. We believe that as you listen to this message, your faith will be stirred and you will be encouraged in whatever you are believing God for today. Stay tuned at the end of this message to find out more information about our ministry. Turn with me, if you would, to First Corinthians chapter 12. First Corinthians, chapter 12. And the way we've been going is this. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit with all. There is profit when the Holy Spirit is allowed to manifest and every man who will cooperate with that manifestation will profit. Amen. Every man who will not cooperate will have to bypass and forfeit the profit that could have been his. But notice this. God's mind for all of his people is to profit increase. Have something you did not have before. That's what profit is. It is something that comes into your possession that you did not have before. That's increase profit. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the spirit the word of wisdom, to another, the word of knowledge by the same spirit to another faith by the same spirit to another, the gifts of healing by the same spirit to another, the working of miracles to another prophecy to another discerning of spirits to another diverse kinds of tongue to another, the interpretation of tongues. Tongues God said to dad Hagin, the spirit of seeing and knowing will be in manifestation in a greater measure than you've ever seen before. When God says that he's showing his will, that's his plan. Now for his plan to come to pass, somebody has to hook on and say, yes, I'll respond to that. So when God is saying that the spirit of seeing and knowing will be in greater manifestation than ever before, he's talking about the spirit of seeing and knowing is involving the word of knowledge and the word of wisdom. The word of wisdom is a revealing of the future. The word of knowledge is a revealing of the past or present circumstances that you had no way of knowing unless the Spirit revealed it to you. Amen. So when something is revealed and it's and God shows you that that is a flowing of the spirit of what God said to dad Hagin called it the spirit of seeing and knowing. Remember when Jesus would go out and minister among the people, he would say, only do what I see, my Father. Do I only say what I hear my Father say. So when he saw now he knew what to do. Can I say this how do we operate? Now we were talking about, we made the statement last night. I believe that the five fold ministry offices will have a more, they will have a more ongoing and stronger degree, these nine manifestations of the Spirit operating. And those are for public use and they're never for the minister. They're always for someone else in that setting. But every believer can have a degree of some measure of any of these gifts as the Spirit wills and as it's needed. Now you might have at times a gift of healing going to operation, or you might have a word of knowledge going to operation. But with five fold offices, like certain offices, they will, like an evangelist, he'll always have the gifts of healing. Always. Maybe not in every service, but I'm saying that's prevalent in his ministry. Now you might just have, you might go for a period of time and just have one and just have another. But I'm just saying they're for you. They're for every man to profit. Now the way to move into these is, is the more we speak in other tongues, the more we become sensitive when the Spirit is endeavoring to bring one of these manifestations into our lives. Amen. So the more we pray in other tongues, the more sensitive our spirits become. Amen. So I want to again, as we said the other night, there are the nine manifestations of the Spirit fall into three categories. There's the power gifts, the revelation gifts, or the inspirational utterance, vocal gifts. So the power gifts do something. The gifts of healing, working of miracles, gift of faith. The revelation gifts reveal something. Word of wisdom, word of knowledge, discerning of spirits. The inspirational gifts say something. Tongues, interpretation of tongues and prophecy. So Jesus would come out and he would say, I only do what I tell. See my Father do. In other words prayers. Because he would pray and in the time of prayer he would see prayers, get previews. He will show you a preview of what's to happen throughout that day. So the more we pray, the more we will see previews of things. And sometimes the seeing, when it's not always seeing, sometimes it's just a knowing that you just have a sense that God is wanting to do. Now I'm talking about for a minister, you have a sense in a service God is wanting to do something. Whether it's minister to a certain person or have a certain flow. You have a sense that he's wanting to do something. The Spirit is seeing. And you just know. You just know. You didn't hear a word, you didn't hear a voice, you didn't hear an articulation even in your spirit. You just have a sense that I know that this needs to happen in the service. You can have that same thing in your daily life. I just know I need to start this business. I didn't have God say, I just know I need to do or I know I need to take this job, or I know I shouldn't take this job. I don't have. I just have a knowing spirit of seeing and knowing going into operation. Amen. Praise the Lord. So when we look to scripture, where do we see the spirit of knowing, spirit of seeing and knowing go into operation and what it can work. A word of knowledge from Elisha warned a king of the enemy's war plan of destruction. Remember when the king of Syria was going to come against God's people, the Israeli army, And when the king would give the battle plan and he would do it in his, no doubt, his bedchamber, I would say it's probably a tent on the battlefield or something. He's not calling people into his bedroom in his palace. He's getting ready for war. So he's got a place where he sleeps set up. And he calls his military leaders in in his bedchamber, so to speak, and he starts laying out the battle plan of attack. But Elisha knows it and goes to the king of Israel and say, don't go over there. They're over there waiting for you. And so that plan folds. And then so he creates the king of Syria, creates another plan. And the spirit of seeing and knowing, a word of knowledge goes into operation and reveals it a second time. And finally the king of Syria said, who's the traitor in our troops? Who's the traitor? And one says, there's no one a traitor. There's a prophet in Israel that he says in the king's ear what you say in your bedchamber. You say, oh, I like the spirit of seeing and knowing. Until. And so the king of Syria sends a troop, he sends his military. Before we can defeat the Israeli army, we got to get rid of this guy. So they, in the nighttime, they surround where Elisha is, and Elisha's servant walks out and goes, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba. Because all he sees is the troops of enemy armies against him. And what did Elisha. Elisha wasn't troubled. He said, oh, God, open his eyes. In other words, may he see what I see. When you see what God shows you are so unafraid and uninterested in what the devil is showing and what he was. Legions of heavenly hosts surrounding him to where no natural military force could break through and touch him. When you are operating under the spirit of seeing and knowing the devil, you can't touch this. The spirit seeing and knowing rescued a nation. Now, if it'll rescue a nation, won't it rescue your marriage? Won't it rescue your children? Won't it rescue anything of less precedence there? Amen. Then what about this? The word of knowledge. The spirit of seeing and knowing going into operation to enlighten and discourage and encourage a discouraged servant. Elijah. Jezebel's after him. I finally learned who Jezebel was. Elijah's running from a woman who hates that he is God's spokesman. And Elijah makes this unknowledgeable statement. He says, I'm the only one left. I'm the only one left standing up and declaring what you say I'm it. What was the problem? He lacked the knowing. And God said, there are 7,000 who have not bowed their knee to Baal. Now, when he knew, then he could no longer be afraid and discouraged. God encouraged him with what? The knowledge he brought him into. When you have the spirit of seeing and knowing, it will encourage you at a time when you feel like quitting and when circumstances threaten you. Amen. Then we see the word of knowledge go into operation to expose a hypocrite with Gehazi. Gehazi was used by God in different occurrences of miracles. Pastor Debbie talked about it. When? Or was it Pastor Debbie or Pastor Craig? One of you talked about it when? No, it was Pastor Chris Cody in your sermon on the offering. And you were talking about that the woman had taken care of the man of God. And the prophet said, I must do something for her. And Gehazi was the one who had the answer in his mouth and said, she has no child. That was the answer the prophet was looking for. But yet the same man who was the answer to the prophet's request became a hypocrite and a thief. You can be around the mighty men of God, but if you don't keep this inside clean, your proximity to a man of God, not automatic success. You have to do the right thing when you're around the right man. And a word of knowledge exposed a hypocrite. Now know this. God will give. Now I'm going to talk to ministers, but you know this also applies to parents. God will expand someone that would jeopardize your children and your family. He'll expose them to you. Not so you can go out and tell it and broadcast it, but so you can pull yours away from that. It's not. You have to know this. If God warns you about somebody, that's not for you to go out and warn everybody in the church about them because everybody else has the same Holy Spirit and it's up to them to hear. You'll get in trouble with God. And if you go out and broadcast something the Spirit said to protect your family and you go tell other people the same thing, God said you better be careful because you're not the Holy Ghost. And that's his job. And if people won't pay attention to him enough and be sensitive enough, you can't rescue. When the Holy Ghost can't even rescue the others that won't listen anyway. God will minister a word of knowledge to help restore someone who's doing wrong if they want help. I was preaching one time we were in the tent and I was preaching a wonderful, just a friendly faith sermon, friendly to hear and right in the middle of it, you know, it comes out your mouth before you even really realize what's coming out. And I said, that man Friday night, now see, this is Sunday morning. That man Friday night who was in such and such hotel, in such and such a room number with somebody who's not your wife, you think you got by with it. God was there. He saw it. Was I trying to hurt somebody? No, they had, they had pulled a really good one. And I sat down after it and I said, is there such a hotel like that? I gave the name of a hotel. Is there a hotel like that in this city? And one of the staff said they just finished building it last month. I said, oh thank God. What was it? God is trying to help. He's trying. He's not exposing, exposing him to make him fail. He's trying to offer help to someone if they'll take it. Now can I tell you this? If a lot of times, if God takes it public in a sense like that, it's because you have refused to listen privately. And in his last ditch effort, he will go public. But it's a last ditch effort. Amen. Plus when you say something like that, other would be offenders straighten up what a help that is. God will reveal things. Not to hurt people, never. It's always, always for their help. And when God reveals it, don't you ever step back from helping them with what God revealed if God tells you to. Because if you don't, there may not be another help that comes. There have been times that I have walked into churches, and you look up on the platform and you go, oh. And you go, I don't want to look up there anymore. Because when you look, when you see. You know, I was thinking, I was in one particular church in California, and I looked up on the platform. I was doing several services there. I looked up on the platform, and as soon as I laid eyes on one of the girls in the music team, God said, lesbianism. And I go, you know, none of my business. I'm not a pastor here, you know, but see, what is it when we hear that, we think, well, God's trying to go after somebody. God is trying to go after someone to help them. To help them. So I didn't do anything about it. So, see, you have to be under the anointing to do something about it. Just because you know it doesn't mean the anointing's on you to do something about it. So I didn't touch it yet. I just. All right. And so every time you look up there, there's that word, every time, every time. What is that? The spirit of seeing and knowing. And so I think I did, like, three services, and I am closing out the very last service. And right before I closed it out, the anointing came on me. And God said, deal with that and the flesh. Just because it's something of that nature, of confrontational nature, we have to renew our minds. This is not negative. It's a renewed mind. You have to have God's thinking on it. God's seeing their need. God loves them. Now, God can't make them accept help, but he will certainly offer it, and he will offer it and offer it and offer it. But if they keep rejecting it, there will come a time he'll quit offering it. So when that anointing came on me, now I'm not wanting. I don't know what the pastor knows. I don't know who knows. I don't know what family members are in there. I'm not trying to ruin someone's future by getting the people talking against somebody, you know, because there are a lot of carnal people that when somebody is looking and needing help, they won't let them get free from that association. Oh, I saw you, you know, and they won't forget it next week and next month. So we have to handle these things in wisdom. So I didn't want to see. Single this person out so that others could take a wrong attitude toward them. Why? Because that's not why God's bringing this. He's Wanting to help them. So I said this. I gave a call that God, because I asked God, I said, tell me how to do this. So God in his wisdom tells me what to do. And he said, and he throws in other things. His target isn't all those things. His target is that one, but just so that the one doesn't become spotlighted in the wrong way. So I said, anybody bound by a bad habit, addiction, or perversion. It could be smoking. It could be drugs. It could be alcohol. It could be porno. It could be illicit sex. It could be homosexuality. It could be. It could be lesbianism. It could just be a bad habit that. I mean, you just can't seem to get on the other side of. See what you've done? You've softened the territory there. And I said, if you fall into any of those categories, listen, we all have habits we need to get past. But if there's one you're needing help on, God wants to help you. So I said, come up here. And so people came up, and God blessed them. I ministered to them. People were touched by the power of God, but they really got an overflow of what God was, who God was targeting, but he was blessing the whole just so he could reach the one. But this person didn't come up, See, God gave him an opportunity. See? Remember what I said? A gift of the spirit will go into operation if they want the help. So I said, God, we offered nicely, didn't we? He said, yes. And I said, can I please sit down? No. Got it. He still wants. So. So this is what I did. While everybody else is doing something, I just came over. I'll come over, because then Sister Amy won't get. Pastor Amy won't give. And I said, come here, love. Come here. So she gets. You don't have to, But I just pull her up and I said, come here. And I said, do you know why I'm pulling you out? She said, yes, ma'. Am. I said, do you want to be free? Yes, ma'. Am. See, sometimes some people are too embarrassed. They're shy. For whatever reason, they won't step up. See? So I didn't say, you, bandana. You know why? Because God's not trying to. To embarrass, torment her. Don't misunderstand me. Sometimes he has had me to call people out in front of a congregation and call it out as it was. Why? Because they are conducting something in a public eye to where other congregation members know and they're affecting others, and they need to be marked as what they're doing is wrong. So don't you accept what they're doing? That's right. Amen. God was trying to protect others. If God has you to in a very direct, confrontational way, you know what I'm talking about, Call it out publicly in a very clear way, it's not because of them he's trying to warn the others they're affecting. Does that make sense to you? Otherwise, it gets handled in a cloaked, softened manner, like I did. Now, when there is a gift of the spirit like that that goes into operation, God's trying to keep the church healthy. If you don't deal with that stuff, that stuff will spread. You have to learn this. The spirit of the world will try to get into the church. And if you don't deal with when you know someone is informed and they still choose the wrong thing. Now, I'm talking about over a period of time, they will open a door on that congregation, family. And if the pastor won't deal with it, they will answer to God for it. I am not. There is nowhere in my personality. I am not a confrontational person. Now, Ed, in his personality, he was confrontational. And I used to sit back and enjoy his confrontations because I was so impressed by somebody who just didn't even flinch because, man, I was flinching. You know, you say, well, you sound bold. Well, yeah, under the anointing, we all sound bold. But I will say this the way I sound. Under the anointing, I walk out, out from under the anointing. You want to know why? Because I don't pastor or minister by personality. And my personality is not a confrontational bend. But to pastor, you have to confront. So I put my purpose, personality under the word. I pastor on the word, not based on personality. Do I confront? You got your business, right? I will confront you. Is it in my personality? No. I do it because of the Word and the Spirit directs me to. Because I don't pastor based on my personality. My personality colors my pastorate. It colors me in the ministry, but it's not leading me. You have to know that, because there are a lot of pastors that have lost their congregations because they try to pastor all their personality. And their personality is not all that's needed to lead. I pastor based on the word. I pastor based on my personality. I've kicked people out of the church. I have confronted perversion. I have called. I'll call it in and I'll call it straight, because I'm not playing anybody. Anybody that comes and attends this church can leave anytime they want. I can't. I can't. None of my family can leave anytime they want. But every person who comes as a sheep to the church, they can pick up and leave anytime they want. We can't. And I'm not going to let someone who can exit ruin the place I have to stay. And I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to let you know I don't pastor by my personality. I don't lead this ministry by my personality. And the staff knows you get out of line, I'm all over you. You're not hurting this ministry. My husband paid a dear price for the ground he laid. My family. We paid a price in being faithful. And I'm not going to let one little perversion come up and wreck and jeopardize the whole thing. Ain't happening. And people do not come and bring their family and bring their children for somebody to diddle one of their children out in the hallway. Not happening. Not happening. Not happening. We are not a reformed center. We are a transformed center. And if you want to transform, if you refuse the transformation process, I don't have a reform process for you. Understand that when baby Christians and young people come in, I tell you what, I will work with them. I will be patient with them because I understand the level they're at. But when you're at a big boy level and you're at a big girl level and you start trying to mess with my church, oh, you just. You just got the ugliest, meanest woman on the planet. Because I am jealous for the plan of God. I am jealous for what God is doing. And I tell you, I'm not handing the plan of God off to someone who won't live clean. That's not happening. I'm not handing the vision of this church off to somebody who is living unconsecrated. Not happening. Not happening. Amen. And I'll talk to you and I'll work with you, but I'm not playing games, I guarantee you. You might manipulate your mama and your daddy and your wife and your husband, but there's no manipulation going on here. You're not playing games with me because I'm not playing games with my future. And when the spirit of God says to deal with you, I guarantee you I'm backed up with his power to deal with you. And I will deal. Amen. Let me tell you, I'm a lady, but this lady car a big stick right back here. You want to know why it keeps the Family safe. You're not going to hurt this church. Family. Now let me go a little bit further. Oh, I got loads of time. There have been times, everyone that walks into the church, I do not have to pastor. That's right. I don't have to. I don't have to. There have been times in pastoring, and I will say this, it's not often, it's not frequent. There have been times that when somebody walks in, I'm talking about somebody I've never seen before, never laid eyes on. They've never visited, they've never been part of this church. And. And I see them and I have a warning sign that goes up when that happens. I know that God, if it's just a warning, I know that God is giving them a chance to get their lives right. But I know this. They're unclean. So I put an usher on them. I don't tell them, but I call an usher and I say, you sit near that person. Your assignment is if they get up and go to the bathroom, you need to go, too. You're not going to stand right by them. You're not going to say anything. You're just going to follow them because you don't know that they're going to get up and see the devil. Use their problems in their life to go out and pollute somebody else. Get a kid in the hole. That's not happening here. I'm not stupid. I'm not stupid and I'm not playing stupid. Listen, I was that way with my kids. I'm that way with the church. I pastor the way I parent because a pastor is a parent. So that person will have an usher put on them until I sense not to. But I have found this out. When that alarm comes, most of the time, 99% of the time, they only last two or three weeks. Because the word puts a demand. You either make a choice to be right or not be right. And the anointing in this place won't let you play. He'll let you get help. He's not letting you play. Now then there have been a few times when it wasn't just a warning. It was like an alarm when they walked in. When I have that, they're not allowed in the building. I'm telling people I've never seen before, I'll be doing praise and worship. And somebody will walk in the back door and that alarm goes off and I go, let them keep singing. And I'll walk back there, person I've never seen before, and say, I know you're looking for a church. I know you're looking for a pastor, but this isn't it. And I don't want to waste your time trying to stay here thinking and checking to see if this is it. Because I'm just telling you I want to help you find your pastor. I'm not it. Amen. So you need to go find your pastor. That's right. Why? Because I know that they don't want help. They're coming here with motives of whether they're going to try to get somebody. They want an illicit affair. They want to pilfer money out of somebody. I'm not playing games. That's why I've never had. We've never had a church split in almost 30 years now, and we never will. Why? Because the spirit of seeing and knowing will push it to the top. But know this, when he pushes it to the top, you better have the boldness to skim it off. That's my job. I'm a skimmer. Just take that arm and just skim it off. People. People in the world, you know, they get this mentality. They'll go from church to church to church to church to try to pilfer money out of people, and then they'll look for ways to try to sue. And that person. A person tried to do that one time, and I got wind of it. And so I would. I called the person, you know, on their phone. They didn't answer. I left a message and I said, this is Pastor Nancy. Now, see, they had been here for a while. We had given them the opportunity to be right. They didn't want to be right. They wanted to work. Work their system. See, the spirit of seeing and knowing will reveal a hypocrite. And so I gave him. I called him and I left a message, and I said, this is Pastor Nancy. I said, I'm trying to reach you. And I said, I need to talk to you. That means do not attend one of my services till you've come to the office and met with me. And so I called and left several messages so they couldn't say one got erased. And. And they didn't know I did that. Well, about two weeks later, I look out and there they are. And I go, oh, no, you didn't. Oh, no, you didn't. Oh, no, you didn't. Oh, no, you didn't. I'm in the middle of the sermon because, see, I look at people and I never see them when I'm preaching. I guarantee you it's not probably a good Habit. But I can look right at somebody the whole service and never know they were there, because I'm not trying. Yeah, I'm not preaching to people in the sense of singling someone out, making them my target. But for some reason, I looked out and there they were, and I go, everybody raise their hands and praise the Lord. Real loud. Real loud. Usher, come here. Come here with me. Come here with me. I mean, I get a glazed overlook, you know, like, oh, no, you didn't. And I went back and I said, honey, I gave you a message that you don't come back into this church lest you meet with me. This usher's gonna take you to my office right now. Right now. He will hold you there till I'm ready to talk to you. Everybody in God. Good. I'm still conducting the service. Oh, praise the Lord. What is this? The spirit is seeing and knowing. I know what you got. I know. I know the hypocrite. I know what you're trying to do against this congregation. I know you're using the opportunity to look for. Get you some easy money. Not here. We're not stupid. We're not suckers. We have a divine genius helping us, and I. And don't you dare call it mercy. Don't you dare call the negligence to follow the Holy Ghost mercy. Mercy is not permissive towards wrongdoing. Are you kidding me?
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Preach it. Amen. And so then after the service, I went and took me two ushers, ugly ones, big ones, get on my biggest heels. And I said, I told you, and I know what you're doing. And I was very plain about it. And I said, the next time, they're going to escort you off the property. And the next time you show up, police will be here to meet you. And don't you doubt it. I'm not playing. See, I don't have those problems. Why skim it off. Skim it off. It won't do you any good to see it. Know it if you won't skim it off. That's why. That's why Brother Copeland comes here and says, I want to come back. That's why anybody bound can come here and get free. Anybody. Anybody. They are so welcome to come here and get free. But we're not playing games. And I will even let someone unknowledgeable play a game for a little bit. But, see, I know the game better than them. So I know when they've stepped over the line. I'm going to give you a chance to get right. I'm going to give you a chance to get the word in you because I know it doesn't happen in a day. I know it doesn't happen in a week. I know it doesn't happen in six weeks. I understand, but we're not playing games. And the Holy Ghost will keep us in the nose of someone's intent and someone's motive. Why? Because we're trying to help them. That's right. But if you don't want help, you're not going to. You're not going to affect our. Our people negatively. Playing your game. No, no, no, no. They don't come here so that you can peel for money off them and work your business deal and sell your items back at. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So you can get your business from. Don't you dare come in here and put a business card on the Jesus. Somebody walked in and did that one time and I walked out and there's a business card on every seat. I go, aw, geez, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. You know how Ed would talk about, don't you come here and try to sell your soaps and all your bubbles and your gizzard cleaners? Why? The anointing is a people gatherer, but not so you can make money. Oh, no, see, I'm jealous for the plan of God. I am jealous. So I picked up one of those cards. I picked up one of them and I said, ushers, you get all those cards off the chairs. And I don't know who got one or not. So I said, okay, I'm not even asking who this is. I know you're here. I'm not even asking. Don't stand up. Don't stand up. And I said, you see this card, people? If you ever saw this card, don't you frequent this business. These people came in here and they tried to use the anointing so they could promote their business. Don't you dare, patron. Don't you dare be a patronage to their business. Don't you dare. And people go, okay, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor.
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Because they're companies that teach. People go do that. You see, I'm jealous for God's house and what God does. Amen. Am I confrontational? Yes. Not in my personality, but in my authority. But I'm kind. I'm kind. I am kind. I am kind. The gifts of the spirit are not only suggested, they're mandatory to have a clean church. Now, let me tell you something as the pastor, it's not My job to clean up people? Not my job. Not my job to run around and find people and what you're doing in sin and confront. No, I don't do that. That's the job of the Holy Ghost. But if you won't listen to Him, I can't help you. You understand? It's not my job to get in the business of the people and say, I know you're doing this and I know you're doing that. No, I do it by the Holy Ghost. I've always pastored by the Spirit. It's not my job. I'm not going to step in and solve your problems in your life. That's what the Holy Ghost is for. My job is to teach you how to follow the One who helps you, teach you the word, teach you how the Spirit's going to help you, teach you, give you the tools to renew your mind. That's my job. My job is not to get in your business and fix your business. I tell you, my staff, I will not deal with heart issues. I only deal with job performance issues, with staff. That's it. Period. If you got a heart issue, if you got an attitude problem, you better get it right in the congregation, in the services, just like every other congregation member. It is not my job to deal with your heart on staff. It is my job to deal with job performance. You deal with your heart like every other congregation member. Amen. It's not my job to get all up in your business. I'm out the Holy Ghost to you. You're not going to wear me out. Amen. The gifts of the Spirit are the pastor's greatest aid to help him. Pastor, it's the minister's greatest help to help the people not by might, not by power, but by the Spirit. But when the Spirit says something, you have to have the boldness to follow him in what he says. He's always right. He's always right. He's always right. Right. And when you sense something is off with someone and they'll swear to you with their last breath that it's not, the Holy Ghost is always right. And when your children say, no, Mama, I'm not doing anything wrong, but on the inside, the Holy Ghost is right. My children, they just so wonderful. Your children ain't perfect. And when you start thinking they are, you're going to get duped. You better listen to the Holy Ghost. You better listen to the Holy Ghost. He loves your children more than you do. He loves your family more than you do. My husband, just to tell you years Ago, he was in a foreign country and he started having heart issues. Now, this was before him. And I married, and he went home and went to the doctor and had it checked out. And they did where they shoot what, the ink or the dye up into the arteries to see the condition of them. There was nothing wrong. And then when he got in the hospital, all that stopped. And he said to God, he said, what was that? He said, you were too busy listening to me, so I'm going to let you stay here so you can listen to me. You know, if you won't slow down on purpose, he'll have to use something else that will slow you down so you can listen. And he said, well, why did I have those symptoms? He said, I told you about a situation in your family that was going on and you wouldn't believe me because you wanted to believe the best about them. That's not walking in love. Believing the best about somebody against what the holy ghost said, that's not walking in love. How about walking in love with the holy Ghost first? He said, I told you something about somebody and you would not believe me and deal with it, and that's why you're having heart problems. Praise the lord. Doctor Sumrall told the story about when he invited William Branham to his church. And the first night, William Branham had the word of knowledge, word of wisdom, in a measure that I don't know that we've ever seen. And, you know, he could get up, he could tell you what was wrong with you. He could tell you all kinds of things about every person that stood in front of him. What is that? That's a greater measure of that gift. And see, in this revival, God said 100% potential of the operation of these. Wow. What does that look like? So William Branham, he called for a healing line. Dr. Sumrall said there were so many people that got in the line, it went all the way around the walls of the building out there, foyer, down the sidewalk and around the block. So many people got in line for healing. The first woman came up for healing, and he says, do you know where your husband is? She said, yes, he's at home with the children. No, he's next door with your neighbor in bed right now. And said, and if he doesn't repent, he'll be dead in 30 days. And he was. Dr. Sumrall said, that man dropped dead within 30 days. He dropped dead. But Dr. Sumrall said, you looked, and three fourths of the people got out of the line. There wasn't hardly anyone left.
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What you doing? What you doing? What you doing? Where you going? What you watching? What you texting? What you liking on Facebook? What you doing? Come on. You talk about a reverence that will come back in the church when that spirit of the world has gotten in. People don't even recognize. They think it is to walk in love, to let the spirit of the world in. No, serious. They call it walking in love. Can I tell you what you tolerate, what you have tolerance toward you're going to have? I'm going to tell you. Drug addicts can come here, alcoholics, adulterers, homosexuals, lesbians can come here and get free anytime they want. But I tell you what, we're dealing with powers here. We're not playing games. And if you're sincere and you're genuine, I guarantee you the genuine power of God will meet you. Set you free. Set you free. Set you free. But don't be confused about this just because you're confused about what gender you are. I'm not your confusion. It's not my confusion. And I'm not playing. And I will not let people sit in here and hold hands and say, I'm walking in love. I won't. No, no, no, no. But if you want to be free, I guarantee you I'll be the first one to show you how to walk in that freedom. If I love you, I love you enough not to be tolerant. Because what's tolerated will be had. And when churches stand up and say, we're mercy motivated and we're walking in love, I'm just telling you, the spirit of the world will take over their church. Because I'm going to tell you what love will do. Can I tell you what love will do? God is love. One day, heaven is a perfect society. Perfect. But one day, Lucifer, part of a perfect society, tried to disrupt the order of the perfect society. And love rose up and tell bam, you're out. Love is not permissive toward wrongdoing. Do not confuse that. Love is permissiveness. Don't confess confused that mercy means permissiveness. It does not. If you love someone, you won't let them keep going down the wrong road. You won't wink your eye at it and say, well, we're just trying to reach people. You can't reach people doing that. You can help damn people doing that, but you can't reach them doing that. God is love. And love refused to permit wrongdoing to remain in his society. Amen. Well, praise the Lord. We got one more night. And I am only on page 7 of 16. What does that mean? Thank God for the spirit of seeing and knowing. It is a safety to our lives. It will enable us to finish our call one day. One day. One day we will all stand before Jesus and answer, what did you do with my plan? What did you do with my plan for your life? Well, I tried. No, no, no. You had divine help. You had angelic beings who are ministers for the heirs of salvation. You. You had a divine genius of the Holy Ghost in you. You had my word. You had my name. What did you do with my plan for your life? We will all give an account. We will all answer. And he gave these divine nine manifestations of the Spirit because to finish and fulfill our plan requires these nine manifestations. Manifestations. We cannot fulfill the fullness of the plan. We might fulfill a partial measure of it, but the fullness of it is going to require the fullness of what God offers to us. We need to start hungering for the gifts of the Spirit in our lives, in our churches. Amen. Amen. That when pastor gets up and says something that people that are carnal and unspiritual in a church and they go out in the foyer and say, well, I'm not going to stay in this church anymore, you know, they got no love. And all you're saying is that what the pastor said in the service you're guilty of, if you'd gone about there and be quiet, nobody would have known. But when you go out there and start speaking against the leadership, all you're saying is, that was me. That was me. And we need to realize that if the pastor gets up and says something, ooh, that stepped on my toes. Learn the proper response to the hungry man. Every good thing is good to the hungry man. He honors everything, whether it was what he would have chosen to eat or not. He's grateful for it. Hunger doesn't just say, I only will accept a word that's easy to hear. Anybody would love the church and the pastor who says, by the end of the year, you're all going to have a new home. But when a pastor gets a up by the gifts of the Spirit and says, this isn't going to be happening anymore because I know what's going on with the youth or I know what's going on, I'm just telling you I love the family too much to let you keep doing this. So we're going to be handling this. You need to say, thank God for my pastor. Thank God for my pastor. Keeps My life safe. Hunger appreciates every flow God gives the sheep. Thank God for the Holy Ghost. Pray for your pastor. Oh, Father. Oh, Father, that you would give my pastor everything the sheep need to hear. And Father, when he delivers it, I'll say thank you. I won't say I'm offended. Amen. Hunger never gets offended at any food put on the plate. Seriously, you take a starving. A person who grew up in a third world country starving and put on their plate a plate full of vegetables. They won't say, I'm not eating that. They won't say it. Why? Because hunger takes what's offered it. Amen. I love the hunger Ghost. He is out for our blessing. The Holy Spirit is trying to bring profit to every single one of us. Amen. He can't do anything but profit. We have to renew our minds to what profit looks like when your pastor stands up and says, don't you marry that person. That's the Holy Spirit trying to profit you. To try to try to rescue you from a life of sickness and torment and. And heartbreak and heartache and children gone the wrong direction. See, we have to renew our mind to what profit looks like. Profit is not just money in your pocket and healing in your body. It is your life rescued from a wrong direction. Hallelujah. Well, stand with me to your feet tonight. Father, we thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you, thank you. We cooperate. We hunger for what you said to the prophet of God. That greater manifestation of the spirit of seeing and knowing. We say, father, we're hungry for it. We're hungry for it. We're hungry for it. We're hungry for is a rescue to our lives. It's a help to our lives. It is complete profit to our life. We only increase from it. We thank you, Father. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you, Holy Spirit. Thank you, thank you for taking the will of the Father and manifesting that in our presence. We honor you. We reverence you. We're just so grateful for you. We give you proper place in our life. We purpose to be sensitive to you, to yield to you. We thank you for it, Father. Now, Grant, get the microphone and let's go ahead. Lead us in that song again. Because we say this, we're stepping in, we're stepping out. This is not just a song. This is direction for us when we leave this week of meetings. Amen. We're not just singing something we like to sing. We are stating some things. Amen. Go ahead, Graham.
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We're stepping in. We're Stepping out We're moving with the spirit we'll sing, we'll praise, we'll shout we're moving right into a greater flow Everywhere he leads us we'll go we're stepping, we're stepping out yeah, we're moving, we're moving with the spirit Sing, we'll praise, we'll shout we're moving on into a greater everything Everywhere he leads us we'll go we're stepping in, we're stepping out Moving with the spirit we'll sing, we'll praise, we'll shout we're moving on into a greater flow Everywhere he leads us we will go we're stepping in we're stepping out now Moving out We're moving with the spirit we'll shout we're moving on to a greater flow Everywhere he leads us, we'll go Everywhere he leads, leads us Everywhere he leads, we will bow Everywhere he leads us Everywhere.
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Hey, let's look at that. Let's look at that last line. Everywhere he leads us we'll go how about everywhere in a service? He leads us, we'll go with that flow in that service this is not just a preacher singing a song. The congregation must sing this. We're not just the preacher. We're stepping in, we're stepping out Every bend in the service, every way, every plan of the service, even if we're not used to it, even if it's something we've not seen before, we're going to step in. Why? Because we're not going to let the discomfort of the flesh keep us. Now, I'm talking about it's right. When it's right in our spirits, we're going to step in. Amen. Let's sing it again. Sing.
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We'll praise, we'll shout we're moving on into a greater. Everywhere he leads us, we'll go Everywhere he leads us Everywhere he leads us, we'll go Everywhere he leads us Everywhere he leads us, we'll go we're stepping.
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In.
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We'Re stepping out. We're moving with the spirit. Everywhere he leads us, we'll go Everywhere he leads us Everywhere we will Guard us, we will Everywhere and He leads us we're gone.
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Hallelujah. Hallelujah. We're hungry for it. We're hungry for it. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Well, you don't want to miss tomorrow. There's another flow for us to step into. Amen. Hallelujah. How about this? Stephen Defray is preaching in the morning. And for those of you who don't know this is Grant deframe, my youngest son. And of course, you know Morgie, Bubby, Bear. Come here, come here, Come here. Let's look at this. Come here. Come here real quick. Come here. Is Nanny Cake's not in here, is she? This is Bubby. This is Bear. And you know what? The best thing you can do is get your family in the same flow. Then they'll know which one way we're all headed. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Turn to somebody before you're dismissed and say, I'm hungry. I'm hungry for the move of the Holy Ghost. And you're dismissed. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner, or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Defray Ministries.