Podcast Summary: The Two Sides Of Healing, Part Two

Host: Dufresne Ministries
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Episode Date: June 6, 2019
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode Series: Jesus The Healer Broadcast

Overview

In this episode, Pastor Nancy Dufresne continues her teaching on “The Two Sides Of Healing,” delving deeper into how healing, while rightfully belonging to believers, is received through proper positioning—specifically, through obedience, righteousness, and forgiveness. Using biblical passages, practical allegories, and direct challenges, she exhorts listeners to examine both their faith and their lifestyle, emphasizing that the blessings God has promised—including healing—are conditional on how we walk and respond to God’s leading, not just on His promises alone.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Two Sides of the “Coin” of Healing

• Healing belongs to us: It is provided through Christ, but not received automatically.
• Many claim their healing but may not see results—prompting the need to evaluate the “second side” of the coin: being positioned to receive.
• Positioning requires:
  • Obedience to God
  • Walking in righteousness
  • Living without unforgiveness

Notable Quote:

“The second side of the coin of healing is not just healing belongs to us, but it means it's about what am I gonna do to be in position to receive the healing that belongs to me.” — Nancy Dufresne [00:31]

2. Obedience—The First Condition for Receiving Healing

• Scripture Reference: Deuteronomy 28:1-2. Blessings (including healing) are conditional on diligent, teachable listening and action.
  • Obedience is emphasized as readiness to listen and implement what God says, not just hear it.
  • The blessings of God aren’t random; they come through obedience, not just prayer or fasting.
• Disobedience places one “out of position,” making blessing and healing inaccessible.
• The necessity of being teachable, handling correction, and the consequences of insisting on one’s own way.

Memorable Moment:

“I've told you, you won't listen. Quit dating that person. But they won't listen… Sometimes the hard way takes 30 years to teach.” — Nancy Dufresne [01:50]

Illustrative Analogy:

“Get over in the lane that's coming toward you and decide you're gonna go against it. ...You might miss one car, you might miss two cars, but you're gonna hit something down the road. Why? You're out of position.” — Nancy Dufresne [05:47]

• Obedience is your “lift to the top”: God said, “Your obedience is your lift to the top. When you're tired of obeying, you're tired of going up." [11:15]
• Obedience brings automatic blessing—blessings “will overtake you.”

3. Walking in Righteousness

• Right standing and right living: Jesus has made us righteous, but believers are responsible to conduct themselves in a way that aligns with that right standing.
• Scripture Focus: 1 Peter 2:24—links healing to being “dead to sins, [that we] should live unto righteousness.”
• Persistent sin and failure to make corrections remove us from the “flow” where God’s power can reach us.
• Repentance and immediate correction are key.
  • Repenting quickly keeps you safe from demonic activity and maintains your position for receiving.

Notable Quote:

“It’s a strong man that repents. It’s a weak man that won’t. If you're not repenting in your marriage, you're weak.” — Nancy Dufresne [20:40]

Important Principle:

• Not aligning conduct with righteousness is equated to “playing with the devil’s ground.”

Jesus's Example:

“Jesus told the man that was healed at the pool of Bethesda... ‘Go and sin no more, lest a worse thing come on you.’” — Nancy Dufresne [22:42]

4. Unforgiveness—A Barrier to Healing

• Scripture Reference: Mark 11:23-25—Jesus teaches about faith, prayer, and the necessity of forgiveness.
  • Unforgiveness blocks faith from working, and faith is the means by which we receive healing.
  • Holding onto offense or bitterness makes receiving from God impossible.
• Forgiveness is a decision, not a feeling.
  • Choose to forgive by faith, just as Christ forgave us before we repented.

Notable Quote:

“I need my faith more than I need my feeling of unforgiveness. I need my faith more than I need my offense.” — Nancy Dufresne [25:38]

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• [01:31] “So many times people say, ‘Well, healing belongs to me. I'm just gonna take it.’ But then they just keep saying it and nothing changes.”
• [04:20] “Diligent listening means you're listening with the idea of doing it.”
• [12:37] “Faith only works in obedience.”
• [17:19] “If you miss it, confess as quick as you can... you have no idea how quickly the devil can work against you.”
• [22:12] “Not walking in righteousness is playing with the devil's ground. One foot in the world, one foot in the church, you are unsafe.”
• [25:12] “Forgiveness is a decision. You don’t feel forgiveness. You choose forgiveness.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:31 – 03:00: The two sides of healing; introducing the “positioning” for receiving.
• 03:01 – 11:20: Importance of obedience; Deuteronomy 28 explained; analogies and practical application.
• 11:21 – 17:10: Obedience as the path to elevation and blessing; personal anecdotes.
• 17:11 – 22:00: Walking in righteousness; right living; quick repentance; practical marriage and family insights.
• 22:01 – 25:15: Practical warnings about not persisting in sin; example of Jesus at Bethesda.
• 25:16 – 27:00: Dangers of unforgiveness; faith and forgiveness intertwined; closing exhortation.

Closing Ministry & Call to Receive (26:00–27:18)

• Pastor Nancy leads in prayer for healing for listeners watching by video.
• She encourages listeners to “receive” healing by faith, regardless of current physical feelings.
  • “Your job is say, I receive that right now. Even if the body doesn’t feel any different...when you receive it, before long your body will feel it.” [26:49]

Tone and Style

• Warm, direct, and practical. Pastor Nancy balances strong biblical teaching with vivid real-life examples and a pastoral, exhortative tone.

Useful Takeaways

• Healing belongs to every believer but requires maintaining the right spiritual position: consistent obedience, walking according to the righteousness Christ provided, and keeping the heart free from unforgiveness.
• Blessings are not activated by merely praying or confessing—they manifest as we align our conduct with God’s instructions and the Spirit’s personal leading.
• Regular self-examination, immediate repentance, and a steadfast decision to forgive are essential spiritual disciplines on the journey to receiving God’s best, including healing.