Podcast Summary: The Wisdom Of Faith

Guest Speaker: Kenneth Copeland
Event: Holy Ghost Meetings 2021, World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA
Host: Dufresne Ministries
Date: January 9, 2021
Timestamps follow [MM:SS] from the provided transcript

Episode Overview

This episode centers on "The Wisdom of Faith," with Kenneth Copeland sharing deep insights into living by faith, keeping one's words aligned with God's will, and the vital relationship between faith and love. Through personal stories, scriptural teaching (especially from Mark 11 and the parable of the sower), and practical applications, Copeland illustrates how faith prepares, listens, speaks, and perseveres. The message is both instructive and testimony-driven, emphasizing real-life practice and divine partnership in the walk of faith.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Foundation: Honoring God’s Word and Speaking Faith

• Begins with prayer, honoring God’s Word and Name as supreme (00:00–01:30).
• Recites from Psalms and highlights the importance of calling upon the Lord because He listens (01:30–03:50).
  • Key principle: “Faith prepares for what it expects or believes will happen. That’s corresponding action up front.” (04:55)

2. Speaking Only When Led by the Spirit

• Emphasizes the importance of only saying what God instructs:
  • “We know we need to say something, but keep your mouth shut until you know what to say.” (07:45)
• Stresses avoiding rote recitation and instead, waiting for the Spirit to direct your words.
• Reference to Jesus’ approach: only moving in the temple when led by the Father, not out of emotion or flesh (08:30–09:26).

3. Faith in Action: The Story of Acquiring the “Revival Capital”

• Shares the process of acquiring property for ministry via faith, not debt (10:00–29:30).
  • “He didn’t call me to pay for it. He called me to believe for it.” (16:30)
• Retells the extended negotiations with Mr. Pewitt, highlighting the wisdom of patience, listening, and only speaking as led (15:00–21:00).
  • “Just present your case and shut up until someone asks you a question or says one thing or another.” (13:30)
• Experience shows the outcome of “corresponding action” and trusting God to provide—renting, eventually owning the land, selling mineral rights, and receiving supernatural provision.

4. Beware of Others’ Words and Reputation

• Addresses the issue of rumors, misinformation online (Wikipedia, net worth speculation) (29:30–33:00).
  • Advises caution about others’ opinions: “Be very cautious about what other people say because they don’t know.” (32:05)
• Personalizes this with a story of addressing false rumors with directness and love (33:00–35:45).
  • Gloria Copeland’s response to a rumor: “We are together almost 24 hours a day. He doesn't have time to get out and run around. And I would appreciate it very much if you'd shut up.” (34:10)

5. Core Faith Lessons from Mark 11 & Amplified Scripture

• Examines the story of Jesus and the fig tree (36:00–43:00):
  • Jesus operated in faith—He only said “No man eat fruit of thee hereafter forever” (nine words), didn’t linger to see the result but trusted God’s Word.
  • The faith life means: say what God says, trust, and take corresponding action without striving.
  • “You can receive by saying only, or you can receive by praying. But when you’re praying, you still have to say it.” (54:25)

6. The Principle: Saying, Believing, and Receiving

• Emphasizes “Whosoever shall say…and shall not doubt…shall have whatsoever he saith” (49:20–50:00).
• Distinguishes between prayer/saying—saying is referenced three times, prayer once.
• Gloria Copeland story underscores the importance of saying what you want—otherwise, others choose for you (see “cafeteria” anecdote, 52:25).

7. The Power of Repetition and Immersion in the Word

• Recounts soaking in Brother Hagin’s teachings—listening repeatedly, copying tapes by hand, leading to transformation (58:00–01:00:00).
• The impact of being immersed in the Word: “That’s the way you get it. That’s the way it gets hold of you.” (01:01:15)
• The need for consistency and caution: “You’ll get to the place where everything you say comes to pass. So be careful what you say.” (01:03:00)

8. Love, Forgiveness, and Unoffendable Faith

• Stresses the absolute necessity of forgiving others when you pray (01:05:00–01:08:50).
  • “There are many hindrances to faith. That’s the only one Jesus brought up.” (01:06:50)
  • “Check your love and forgiveness life. Check your word life.” (01:08:00)
• Discusses the parable of the sower—the importance of being good soil and not becoming offended.
• Insights from Jack Howard and a Jewish-business perspective: Don’t let offense control you (01:10:30).

9. Family, Confession, and Generational Blessing

• Family confession: “We are a family without tragedy.” (01:15:40)
• Shares testimony of God’s comfort in loss, including a supernatural confirmation regarding the passing of a family member (01:16:00–01:20:00).

10. Faith in Everyday Life: Victory Over Sickness and Circumstances

• Cites personal stand of faith against sickness symptoms (COVID, flu) and the scriptural basis (Deuteronomy, Galatians 3:13) (01:22:00–01:28:30).
  • “I don’t deny that disease exists. I deny its right to exist in my body.” (01:25:00)
• Advocates for combining faith with wisdom regarding medical decisions—praying over medications, vaccines, etc.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On God’s Instruction and Faith:
  “Keep your mouth shut until you know what to say. Don’t just kick off on a bunch of Scriptures.” (07:45, Kenneth Copeland)

• On the Property Miracle:
  “He didn’t call me to pay for it. He called me to believe for it.” (16:30, Kenneth Copeland, quoting Jesse Duplantis)

• On the Power of Words:
  “You can receive by saying only, or you can receive by praying. But when you’re praying, you still have to say it.” (54:25, Kenneth Copeland)

• On Forgiveness:
  “Number one is check on your love and forgiveness life. Number two, check on your word life.” (01:07:45, Kenneth Copeland)

• On Victory Over Disease:
  “I don’t deny that disease exists. I deny its right to exist in my body.” (01:25:00, Kenneth Copeland)

• On Family Confession:
  “We are a family without tragedy.” (01:15:40, Kenneth Copeland)

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Opening prayer and honoring God's Word | 00:00–03:30 | | Faith requires waiting for God's leading to speak | 07:45 | | Story: Acquiring the revival property | 10:00–29:30 | | Handling rumors and online misinformation | 29:30–33:00 | | Jesus and the fig tree – Mark 11 | 36:00–43:00 | | Whosoever shall say… Power of faith-filled words | 49:20–54:00 | | Copeland’s method: soaking in the Word | 58:00–01:01:15| | On forgiveness and offense | 01:05:00–01:11:00| | Family confession and generational blessing | 01:15:40–01:20:00| | Victory over symptoms through faith | 01:22:00–01:28:30|

Final Takeaways

• Faith is Practical: Real-life stories show how faith is lived out—not just in belief but in practical, spirit-led action and consistent confession.
• Guard Your Words: Only speak as the Spirit leads—words have power to bless, curse, or deliver.
• Stay in Love: Faith works by love—unforgiveness blocks God’s best.
• Stay Rooted in the Word: Continuous immersion, repetition, and meditation anchor you in faith.
• Be Unoffendable: Let nothing, especially criticism or rumors, move you off your stand of faith.
• Confess Victory: What you say about your family, your health, and your future matters—speak blessing.

This summary encapsulates the rich themes of faith, wisdom, and practical holiness imparted by Kenneth Copeland, demonstrating how scriptural principles are woven into daily life and major ministry milestones. The tone remains personal, encouraging, and faith-filled throughout.