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Thinking Like God | Nancy Dufresne | Collinsville, Oklahoma | JTH Crusades 2024 | Monday PM
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Father, we glorify you. We magnify you. Cindy, I love that song. She wrote that and it's. It's one of my favorites. Thank you so, so much. I'm interrupting you because we've been interrupted, so I may let you pick up. We'll just see where it goes from here. Because something just went public that I didn't know had gone public. I had asked not to go public, but it went public, so I guess I'm going public on September 21, which is almost about two weeks, two and a half weeks ago, I got a call from Carolyn Savelle who said, I'm sowing the Falcon 50 to your ministry. We were believing for 11 years and then sewed it and had to be quiet, which is fine. But other ministers are now announcing it who have gotten involved. So I said, well, it's an airplane, in case you didn't know. A Falcon 50. It's an international plane. It goes. What is it? You know, one or two stops anywhere in the world. Two stops anywhere in the world. Like, we can go from here. We can go from here to Hawaii. No stop. If you can go there.
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So.
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Morgan, happy birthday. It's your birthday, but it's not your plane. It's my plane. So anyway, so anyway, praise the Lord. And we're also, we're also in the process of. We'll probably do it within the next couple days, buying a home in Texas because we'll house the aircraft in Texas because so much of my flying is from there in the year 2014. I just added up because I've been home over the last six weeks, about three days. I just live on the road and came back. I've gone to South Africa, Brazil and different, different places. And you don't, you don't, you probably don't know, but my husband and I got married in 1984. David. We get to ride on our own aircraft.
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Right.
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Thank you, Jesus. And we got married in 1984. And right before we married, brother Jerry gave Ed his 421, which is a. It's a. What, what, what is that? It's, it's Cessna, but it's a. It's a prop jet. A twin, A twin, twin engine. But this is a full blown three. Three engine airplane. Three engines on this thing. It's, it's, it's, it's big. It's big. It's big. It's Big. It's big. It's big. So, Sister.
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Yeah.
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Praise the Lord. And so when Sister Carolyn called me, I said, carolyn, just know. I remember that God has used the Savelle family to bless this ministry in years past. And we were. We were. You know, when God puts things back, it's far better than the original. When God restores, it's far better than the original. Plan B. In man's scope of things, Plan A is their best they can come up with. And then B is kind of a step down. But in God's Plan A is just the beginning, and it goes up from there. And so, anyway, I was gonna say earlier this year, I woke up early one morning and I began praying, and God began to talk to me about divine connections. He began to speak about divine connections in my life. He began to speak about those who were divine connections. And he said something to me that. He said, jerry Savelle is a divine connection. And we've always had a wonderful rapport with them. My husband used to do meetings with Buddy Harrison, Jerry Savelle, Happy Caldwell, and Ed Dufresne. And they called him the Four horsemen is what Dr. Sumrall called them. Holy Ghost meetings, just like what we're doing. And so we hadn't been. We hadn't seen them in a while. So I. When God said to me, he's a divine connection, I said, then I got to get him back in the church. And we did. We did. He was at our camp meeting in June. And so that's what. That's what God was talking about. Divine connections are not just always somebody speaking into your life. Sometime a divine connection is a sowing. But in 2014, I flew. I was in the airport 90 days. What's that mean? Take me to LAX, which is our big airport. Drop me off for January, February, March, and just leave me there. That's how many days, hours and hours. And anyway, all that life is changing. Life is changing. It's changing, David. It's changing. And so Brother Keith Moore just announced. So I thought, well, and Terri Pearsons is texting me. Different people are texting. So I thought, well, I would like for those of you who have come here to be able to celebrate with us. But what were you saying, though? You got a mic somewhere?
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I wrote it down. I went and listened. And I got to say, stand up here.
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Yes, you do see me.
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Brother Keith. This is his week of increase there in Branson. And he was announcing what they were the people would be sewing towards. And they were believe they're believing for $10 million. And he said the first 30% of that 3 million, he wanted to sew to Ms. Carolyn. He had had it on his heart. God had been dealing with him about a plane for our ministry, and he just. It kept coming to him. But when he found out Ms. Carolyn wanted to sew the falcon to Pastor Nancy, he wanted to get in on that and sewing to her. And so the first 30%, 3. 3 million, he's going to bless Ms. Carolyn. And he said, I. I wanted to get my. My words right. So I wrote down, he said, this is number one, a seat of Restoration of Aviation to the Defrain Ministries and Restoration to Ms. Carolyn, and a seed, of course, of increase, but a seed of encouragement to Ms. Carolyn, he said, because you know his words, when you get $3 million in the bank, that's encouraging. That's what he said. But he said, I love this statement. He said, these two women have continued after their husbands have gone home in the ministry and with the ministries. And he said, that is heroic. And he said, they're. They're pressing on in. They're doing. And he said, Ms. Nancy spends a lot of time in airports. And he said, if you haven't noticed lately, she's. Her ministry, you know, is growing. I'm paraphrasing what he had said. Her ministry is growing and she's gone. And as you just heard, she's in airports quite a bit and not home quite a bit and really just stays out because it's. It's sometimes harder to get it in a commercial flight and. And deal with all that and come home and then turn around and do it two days later. And so he. He said there, your seed. He told the people what you sow to. He said, your seed is going to every healing line that she has that she goes to. And so I. I just was so grateful that he was pointing out to the people that this tool of an airplane, really. What it's sending her to do. And tonight, when we talked about partnership and spent time on partnership, I couldn't say your partnership is going to go to an airplane to send. But now the. The weight of the statement of sending Pastor Nancy to the next location. And on a personal note, I have traveled with her a lot myself. Our staff, my husband, our kids, and we.
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We do tag team. We trade companions. Yeah, travel companions.
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Some of us go for a leg of the trip and then others come and she stays gone and we trade off. And so this enables her not only to have more time, maybe resting, of course, studying you can't if you're in an airport. I'm sorry, it is. There's no rest, there's no alone time. There's no quiet. And she's got the bows. So you say, we'll get the. She has those, I promise. But you can't rest and be alone with God in that kind of setting. And this season, in this hour, and Jesus is coming quickly and he needs her and others to get the work done. And to do that, she must be refreshed. She must have the time in the, the presence of God with that anointing that's increasing on her and those doors that are opening, this is a door that must open for those other doors to open. But I have seen her book herself and pastors want her to come. And she said, I don't know how I'm going to get there, but I know I'm supposed to go. And she takes two planes and goes to the far away places in New Mexico and in the Midwest and in the Northeast. And she does it because God said it. And in Brazil, and in Brazil, five airports, we had to change her flight multiple times in a foreign country. And so this airplane is more than just wings to go somewhere. It is a door that is opening and God is restoring that for the greater degree of anointing that is to be here so that Jesus can come back and those just like you are going to be ministered to. And so she has believed for this we have all set our faith.
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And this is only the first. We want a Falcon 900 next.
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I mean, this is what dad would do. Once you get one, you go ahead.
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And announce, yeah, that's just the first one.
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The 900 is. The eye has been on both. But she knew by the end of this year the airplane was going to come. And the home, there's going to be kind of a base there in Texas where we'll house the plane. And so it'll be like a secondary ministry headquarters.
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I'll be like five minutes from Emic. Yes.
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And she's. And she's planning on, just so you know, her heart, she's planning on allowing the Copens and Emic to use that home when she's not there for their guests and sewing that home to their ministry as well. So it's not just going to be used for us and our family and for any kind of recreation. It's all ministry, a stopping place, a resting place, a filming. She's going to film Jesus the Healer broadcast. So look out, there may be some.
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New Filming locations and Steven and I were up till 1:30 this morning because we had. It was actually George and Terri Pearson. It's their daughter. Her and her husband had just moved into a new home and they had been trying to sell this home. And they said, we don't know why this hasn't happened. And he said to his wife, Terri Pearson's daughter said, this has to be somebody's home. God is holding this. And so we came a couple Sundays ago and we went and saw it and we walked in and we said, this is the home. So Stephen and I were up because he said, we'll rent it to you until you're ready to buy it. But I saw last night, I said, I think we have the cash that we can just pay cash for that.
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And along with that because they wouldn't say it themselves. But one of the things we had learned was Ms. Aubrey and brother Dave, they had been trying. It was more than well priced. They kept lowering it. They knew God must be doing something. But for the duration of time that it has been on the market, which has been quite a while, they have been covering their home and all these expenses by faith, knowing that God had a plan for that house and that that was.
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So they were holding it.
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They were holding it for us. So that means something to us. That they would by faith just keep holding out and not take an alternate route or just try to get really. But their faith has been involved and they came to you and said, we want to get involved in aviation. It's. It's burning in our heart. And so God has just blessed Pastor Nancy and blessed the ministry with people of like Precious.
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So we had the ladies conference and I last week and I couldn't say anything. Ladies can keep secrets. It was the man who pulled the tarragon.
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Right, right.
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In a nice way. In a nice way I say it.
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So tonight, Legacy Partnership. I sprung it on our guys. They didn't have the brochures in the aisles because they didn't know I was going to talk about it. And we didn't. We were going to announce it, but it was the Holy Ghost. This is Legacy partnership right here. 101.
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I'm wondering if I pull it up, if we can shoot a picture of it on the screen. Can we do that? We can maybe do that because to a lot. You can be seated. You can be seated. Just stay there. Margie, help me. I may need to because. Oh, hang on. Update messages.
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Do you have.
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Okay. Okay. So we're good.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Right. Yes. Is that what I'm seeing?
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I think so.
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You read it. Okay. Okay.
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Yes, that's.
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What are y'. All. Okay? Okay, it's right here. So it's.
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I.
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And, and I like. I like. I like this. Okay, so let, let's, let's, let's.
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I like those.
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I like. I do. I like all these. So let's do what this. Okay, let's do this one. It's a girl thing. It's a girl thing. And this one.
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Yeah.
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Okay. And. Okay, Tony, it's coming right at you. We have a low. We have a one bar signal in here.
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Oh yeah. That's not going to go through. No.
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Air.
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Air drop.
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Okay. Okay. Airdrop.
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We are not the people to.
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Is Tony showing up? There he is. It's wall. Aren't you glad for technology and for people around you who know it?
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Okay, it went through.
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Okay. It went through. What is that? Okay, she sent that. Okay. Yes. Okay, show the one. Where's Tony? He's back there. Okay, show the one down the wing first. There's two. We sent you. The staff just heard this. The staff didn't even know. Bear didn't know?
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No. Our children didn't know.
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The children didn't know. We just want to give you an idea because if you're not an airplane person, those number. Those things don't always register of the magnitude of the goodness. Right. I've gotten quite an edumacation in airplanes lately. My son calls me all the time. Now usually when I would call Stephen or he calls me, he'll ask a question and before I'm even done answering, click, click. And I want to. Oh, okay, well, you're gone. Okay. Okay. Now as he calls me and we stay on the phone for hours because we found something of his interest.
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No, it was so consuming. I was on the phone for him for a while this morning. He had forgotten it was my birthday. That's how all consuming this is. His mom had to text him to remember.
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Okay, so this is. This is one shot. There it is. There are three engines on this plane. So that means when you're flying it, if an engine were to go out, let's say you're flying over and you're flying to a different country, you can land and you can still take off out of there and you're never stranded because you have three. Can you show the other one? Because I want you to see the scale of this thing. Do you see the scale of that? To glory to God. It's big. It's Jesus loves me. One of the things that God said to me several times with this, he said, it's my care for you. I want you to know he has the same care for you. Whatever is needed to fulfill what's in your heart, he cares. Amen. I cut you off, David.
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Yeah.
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I couldn't even tell you, David. I sat for two. We talked for two hours and a half the other day on the phone and I didn't eke out one. I know it. I know it. I'm trustworthy. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. So it's in the process of changing titles with which takes a little bit of time. And then we'll make it our own on the inside. And so it's a good time. Oh, you okay? Hallelujah. David. I think I need a song. I need a something. I need singers if we're gonna sing. I'm distracted. I'm distracted. It's ok. Thank you, Father. Just like a.
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Thanks.
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I don't know. No, I like what you were. I don't know. You like where it was? I don't know. Are you in a flow with our heads up? You guys know this part?
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Give glory and honor. Jesus. Jesus the name of the. Glory. Jesus the name. Jesus the name. Jesus the name. Jesus the name of the. Just one more time in unison put up our hands for this we give glory and honor and power to him. Jesus the name above all name.
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Hallelujah. Jesus. We glorify, we magnify. We glorify. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Well, you can be seated. Turn with me if you would, in your Bibles. Let's go to Hebrews chapter four and verse three. And I'm going to read out of the Amplified classes translation. Hebrews chapter 4, verse 3, the amplified classic translation. And I'm just going to actually read the last phrase God was referring to. The Hebrews, of course, that had been delivered out of Egypt. But they never. That first generation never arrived. I don't want to have something in my name and never, never show up to labor hold of it. Right we see this that God's people had been slaves for generations and they owned nothing. They didn't own their lives. They didn't own their children. They didn't own the clothes on the back. They didn't own what they ate. They didn't own what they lived in. They did not own their time. Nothing was theirs. And when God delivered them his first thing, he said to them, I have a land for you. What's he do? He turns us into owners. Why does God turn us into owners? Because Satan's plan never can be worked on that place, that location of the earth again. When God's people owners, Satan's dominion over that plot of ground is done. Amen. So when it's in your heart to own something, that desire did not originate with you, that originated with God. We know this in three John, chapter one, of course, Verse two. Sin, beloved, I wish above all things. Now John wrote as he was moved upon by the Holy Ghost. So this wasn't just John speaking. This was the Holy Ghost. I wish, I long for. I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health. Look at this. Even as thy soul prospers, so for prosperity and health to flow, something has to be addressed in the way we think. Even as your soul prospers. What's that mean? The more we renew our minds with the Word, the more we will enjoy what's already been provided for us. We'll partake to the measure our minds are renewed. Know this. We will partake to the measure that our minds are renewed. Ministers, pastors, do an injustice to their congregation by not teaching them to renew their minds. Because if those in the body of Christ do not renew their mind, their lives will look like the unsaved. Hebrews. Excuse me. Romans, chapter 12, verse 1 talks about we do we now listen. God did something with our spirit, but because he did something with our spirit, now we're empowered through that new man that Cindy was singing about. We're empowered now to do something with the body and do something with the mind. God's not going to do anything with the body and the mind. He did something with the spirit of man, so that from that new creation in Christ, we dominate and we address the body and the mind. So what do we do with the body? Romans chapter 12, verse 1 says we present our bodies to God. What's that mean? I mean, if God wouldn't have your body doing it, you shouldn't be doing it. We present it to God. We're no longer presenting it to wrongdoing. We're no longer presenting it to sin. Before we were born again, we would just let our bodies go anywhere, take anywhere, take the lead. If we felt like doing it, we did it. But now we're not presenting our bodies to wrongdoing because we've already presented present it to God. So know this if you want to. If people deal with an addiction, they can deal with that by saying, no, I present my body to God, not the addiction. I'm done. Presenting my body to this addiction. And then pour that word in, if you will pour that word in. It will wash out what tries to trouble and hinder your life. It's not about getting rid of wrong things. It's pouring in the right thing. That's called the renewing of the mind. So verse one tells us, do something with our bodies. Verse two tells us, do something with your mind. If you don't do something with your mind, the devil will hold high carnival in your life. What do we do with the mind? Be ye not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. Look, you can't be transformed by the gifts of the spirit. You can't be transformed by a ministry line. You can't be transformed by the glory. You're blessed by those things. But you're only transformed when you do something with your thought life. You take on God's way of thinking. How do you know your mind is being renewed? Before you ask, before you speak, you say, what does God's word say about this? I do everything in my thought life and in my actions based on what God says. Not based on how I was raised, not based on my culture. Because every home has its own culture. And people will say, well, this is the way my daddy taught me. Well, that's fine. Unless it's not in agreement with the Word. Then the renewed mind says, I lay down the way I raised to take on the way God says. That's called the renewed mind. Our minds are not renewed until we're living it. Yes, very good. It's not just knowing scriptures, being able to memorize them and confess them, that's the renewed mind. It's when these things, these truths are implemented in our daily life, that's the renewed mind. You will know this. This is so critical to you to understand every ministry line, every time a gift of the Spirit goes into operation, every time I lay hands on the sick, every time I minister something to someone else that is only temporary help. Amen. Why God is giving them time to renew their minds. Why do people need the help of ministry lines? Because we're all at different levels of spiritual growth and development. The more we grow and develop spiritually, we don't need to lean on the faith of someone else. It's not wrong to pray for someone else. Absolutely scriptural. Because we are a family. But we don't want to build our spiritual lives leaning. We have to come to a point where we stand up on our own faith. And in the middle of the night when symptoms show up, say, no, you don't. No, you don't. You stand your ground. You walk in authority, and only the renewed mind can do that. You do people a disservice by casting something off of them and not telling them. If you don't get your mind renewed, that thing's coming back and bringing more with it, more wicked than itself. Jesus said, when the evil spirit is cast out, he goes to a dry place seeking rest. He finds none and says, I will go back. I will go back. I will go back. The devil always comes back to see if you have foundation of the Word in you. Because when you have a foundation of the Word in you, you resist things and you refuse to let them be stolen from you. What God's blessed you with, know this. Everything you receive from God, the devil is busy trying to steal it. Know it, whether it's healing, peace, joy, finances the call of God. On your life, he will bid high for you. He will offer you something that entices you. He'll offer you a business. He'll offer you a great portfolio. But what about your call? What about what you're born for? What you gonna do with that? Amen. A business is no even exchange for the call of God.
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Come on now.
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It's only their new mind that recognizes that. Now, Romans, chapter 12, verse 2. Be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. What's that mean? Taking on God's way of thinking, new things, new thinking. Now, if someone who is born again is in bondage to something, they are not in bondage to the Devil. Why? Jesus spoiled principality. He defeated Satan. Satan is a defeated foe. If a Christian is in bondage to anything, they are in bondage to an unrenewed mind. They don't think right about who Christians made them to be, what he won for them, and they're laying down their victory to a defeated foe. When your mind is renewed and the devil shows up, you say, no, you don't. You're not touching mine. You're going to have to go to somebody who's ignorant, who doesn't know what I know. While the Devil walks about seeking whom he may devour. Notice what that verse doesn't say. It doesn't say, he walks about devouring. He can't devour. He cannot devour without someone allowing it. He walks about seeking. Who doesn't know? Who doesn't have a foundation of the Word in it? Who doesn't do the Word? Who doesn't do what they hear he's seeking whom he may devour. He's seeking to devour. It doesn't say he's devouring. What's that mean? The devil cannot do to you anything he wants anytime he wants. He cannot. He cannot. If he could, why would he have to deceive you first with threats?
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Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah. Why didn't he just do it? Because he can't. He's got to get you thinking wrong. An unrenewed mind thinks wrong. An unrenewed mind is an open door to the devil. God cannot work through wrong thinking. Why, there's nothing wrong in him. He has no companionship in that which is that which is wrong thinking. When we need God's help, we have to come into his way of thinking. Amen. Praise the Lord. So we have to do something with our bodies, and we have to do something with our mind. And to not teach your congregation that your people will be whipped around by sickness. They'll be whipped around by mental torment because they'll be relying on somebody else to constantly bail them out when they don't. We need to be taught. Come. Bring your thinking in line with the word and stand up and use your authority and tell the devil no. When somebody needs help. I don't always lay hands on them first. I teach them how to recognize the devil's going to try to come back. And what you going to do about that? You better have the word in you and faith in God in you. So you can stand up and say, no, you don't. You're not stealing my victory from me. You're not stealing my health, you're not stealing my children, you're not stealing my peace. You're not stealing my marriage, you're not stealing my call. You have to learn how to resist. When Dr. Sumrall cast that spirit out of that little girl in the Philippines, that there was a revival that broke out and there is still movement of that happening today. And 100,000 people were born again in three weeks because he cast the devil out of that little girl in that bilibid prison. When he cast the devil out, he got her saved that day. And he told her, the devil's gonna come back. And when he does, don't be afraid. When he does, you tell him, no, you're not coming back. That night after she was set free, that devil came back in her prison cell. And she called out to the jailkeeper, what did he say? What did the man of God say? And he repeated it to her. She said, It. And it never came back again. She ended up being the wife of. Of a pastor. Why? Dr. Sumrall taught her. You're gonna have to tell something. No. My faith is not your faith every day. You can't live off mine. I can only help you to buy you time to find out what the Word says, renew your mind. Ministry lines, the gifts of the Spirit, are only temporary help to buy you time. That's it? That's it. So you can get that word in you, get that foundation in you. Why? Because if you don't, Matthew 7:25 tells what happens. The storm comes, and the one who's not a doer of the word, they'll collapse under the storm. People have to be told. You can't just love the Lord. You got to renew your mind. What did Brother Norville say? Bluebirds love the Lord. Hosea, chapter four, verse six. My people, my people, not the devil's people, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. It's not the devil that whips believers. It's not knowing what Jesus provided for them. It's not knowing who they are in Christ. Pastors must embed this into their congregations because you have to grow up spiritually. Grow up, grow up. Amen. People will think, many times I've missed it by just not casting the devil off someone when I'd rather teach them how to keep the devil off of them, because I can cast the devil off of somebody. But if they walk out and they don't have a renewed mind, that devil's coming back, and he'll bring seven more wicked with him than himself. We do a disservice to people to minister to them and not teach them if you want to have a successful ministry. Jesus went everywhere teaching, preaching and healing. Could we not say that healing was the ministry of the Spirit? Could we not say that? But two thirds of what he did was teaching and preaching. If you want your ministry to last, you better teach and preach, because you can't just build it on the gifts of the Spirit. Dad Hagin told that to all the healing evangelists of the healing revival. There was a healing revival on from 1947 to 1958 here in the United States. And he told all those healing evangelists, he said, the problem with you is you're building your ministry on the gifts of the Spirit, and I'm building mine on the Word. And he said, I'll still be here when all of you are dead and gone. And it played out exactly that way. Why? Because the gifts of the Spirit are not the foundation of life. The Word is the Word. You better know the Word. You better stand on that Word. You got to get that Word in you. The gifts of the Spirit bless us. But can I tell you, the gifts of the Spirit don't belong to us. They belong to the Spirit. And he decides when they're in manifestation. We don't. Because they're his gifts. They're his gifts. But faith belongs to us. The Word belongs to us. And we can spend it any time, get any miracle, receive any healing, receive any answer. Because the Word is ours to spend any time we need. And if you just teach people to rely on the gifts of the Spirit, they're going to be at a deficit. Because many times I. Many times in a service, the gifts of the Spirit aren't in manifestation, but the anointing of the Word is always, always, always. Build your ministry on Word. Put the Word in people. Jesus went everywhere teaching, preaching and healing. Without the teaching and preaching, your ministry is incomplete. That's right. Dad Hagin would warn ministers, he said, because they would emphasize just the flow of the Spirit. Listen, the Holy Ghost only works with the Word. He's only interested in working with the Word. And when the Word is taught and the Word is given its place and people are growing in their knowledge and in their doing of the Word, the Holy Spirit can work in a greater way than just the minister knowing the flow of the Spirit. Amen. Amen. Amen. And dad Hagin would warn these preachers, if you don't develop your teaching and preaching gift, you will end up on the spiritual junk heap. And he would warn people that we're coming into an era where the gifts of the Spirit and the flow of the Spirit is going to be an emphasis, but it's only to be supported by the Word. Do you know that for the first seven years that my husband and I had our church in Southern California, there was no operation of the gifts of the Spirit, and that was by design of God. Why? Because we weren't building the church on the gifts of the Spirit. We were building it on the Word. Put the Word in the. Put the Word in the people. That's the foundation the Holy Ghost can flow from unhindered. Yes.
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Amen. Amen.
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And it's good for young pastors to know that because they want to have meetings like you see here. But we have been building this for decades. You don't just step into these things without a foundation of the Word in the preacher and in the people. Romans 12:2. Be not conformed. To this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind. I need my mind renewed every single day. Every single day. It is our lifetime occupation to constantly keep that thinking in line with God's word. Why? Because the devil's trying to constantly insert suggestions, insert thoughts to a judgment thinking, yes, yes, amen. And you have to on purpose say, I will not think that thought. I will not take that thought. That's not my thought. I won't think that about my spouse, I won't think that about my local church. I won't think that about my boss. It's a constant full time occupation to take charge of your thought life. So therefore you got no time for someone else's thought life. Romans 12, verse 2. Be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed. Look at the next phrase that you may prove the good, the acceptable and the perfect will of God. That word prove means discern. Let's say it this way. Be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of the mind. Because it's only the renewed mind that can discern which is the good, which is the acceptable, and which is the perfect will of God. So that you'll choose the perfect and not settle for the good, The good will of God. It's good to be saved. But a lot of people just live at that nominal place of spiritual development. They love the Lord, but they don't ever grow in knowledge of the Word. They don't grow in the doing of the Word. And if they would, their life would come into the flow of God. And some people are just okay with just living at the entry of God's household of faith. And they put their tent there. But there's rooms of healing, there's rooms of miracles, there's rooms of revelation. So don't just stay at the foyer, the entry hall of God's house, household of faith. It's a mansion and you can recline upon all the goodness of God. So don't be settled, don't be content to just know I'm born again. Because God offers us so much more than that. But only knowledge can partake of it. So the goodwill of God is this. It's good to be born again. But people never develop spiritual. It's good they're going to heaven when they die. That's good. That's good. Then there's the permissive will of God, or the acceptable will of God. Then there's the perfect will of God. Good is here, acceptable here, and perfect's way up There it's nowhere near these other two. What's the acceptable or permissive? God will permit some things because if I could say this, you force the issue, so he'll permit you. For example, when God was leading his people through prophets and judges under the Old Testament. But they said, we want to be like. We want to be like other nations. We want a king. And God, Samuel was prophet then. And he told God what the people said. And he said, you warned the people, if they get a king, that king will take their children, take their land, and they'll no longer be free. And the people said, we don't care, we want it. So God permitted them and he even helped them by anointing Saul to be king. David to be king was only God's permissive will for his people. Why God wanted to be. He wanted to be the one that governs people. And he would put prophets over them to help the people know what God was saying. Now that's not the operation of the prophet in the New Testament. So don't try to do that, just cleaning that up. Because there's a lot of error that circulates around that prophet's office. A lot of misunderstanding. You don't want to call yourself a prophet real lightly because that's trouble. That's trouble place. But what is that permitted them? If someone demands to have something their way, God will permit you because he's not running your life. He is leading, meaning this you can follow or not. He doesn't force us, does he? He offers us his knowledge, he offers us his best, but we have to choose it. So there's the good. The good is this. Basically people are saved. But they're going to live the way they want. They're going to stick with their plan. I planned this. I planned a business for this. I planned a financial portfolio for this. And they don't even consult with God. They're just going to go with their plan. Well, that's good. They're born again, it's good. But they're only living the good level. The acceptable is when you walk in a measure of God's plan, but you've inserted your own into that. Like the Hebrews, they were. They were walking out a measure of God's plan, but they were inserting their own preferences and their own desires, their own self will that the perfect will of God. When it's all his plan and none of yours. Because his plan is so perfect, it doesn't need our suggestion, it only needs our obedience.
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Amen.
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That's good. And it's the renewed mind that will only recognize the perfect. That's why a lot of believers are living less than God's best, because their minds aren't renewed and they're allowing their lives to settle for the good or the acceptable. And they're not pressing on. It's the renewed mind. It's only the renewed mind who can enjoy the perfect will of God. That's why we renew our minds, because we were not. I'm not on this earth to do my. To do my plan. I want his plan. Why? There's perfect health in his perfect will. Brother Copeland says it this way. I love this phrase. He said, the will of God is my wealthy place. He's not just talking about finances. He says, my health is wealthy in his will. My family is blessed in his will. You know, growing up with the boys and Steven and Grant, Ed was gone on the road. He was gone. We were together maybe 25% of our marriage. Maybe he was gone all the time. But that was the plan for our home. And I had people tell me, you need to tell your husband, stay home. And it's like, I need to tell you something. Because my life does not have to look like yours because my plan doesn't look like yours. And if you're not careful, people, you let the world design what your family should look like instead of the plan of God designing what your family should look like. My children never suffered because their dad was gone. You know why their mom was home. And I was not afraid to discipline my children. Some of you who are turning your children over to God to be raised, you're going to end up with a mess on your hands. Well, I just give them to the Lord and I just let the Lord do it. He gave them a parent so that he gave them to you. So you know what? And give them back to him. This kind of weak minded, unrenewed mind teaching. Yeah, yeah. It's good that you know, I'm going to reason with my child. I'm going to discipline you. I'm not going to pray disobedience out of you. I'm not praying disobedience out of you. I disciplining disobedience out of you.
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Come on.
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Can I tell you this? I prayed very little for my kids. Why? Because I disciplined them. That's why. They're in the ministry today, helping us and not kicking against the plan of God. I trained them right thinking. I didn't try to pray right thinking into them. I disciplined right thinking. And I taught Right. Thinking I kept them in the local church, I, I guarded their fellowship and I kept them around me instead of around ungodly school systems that are pumping all kinds of mess. Can I tell you this? In past generations, universities were desired. Today they're to be feared. I'm not saying don't send your kids there. I'm saying be led. Be led. Don't just put your life on autopilot and say, well I went to the university, so my kids are going. We're not living in the day. You went. Yeah. I can't tell you the number of mighty ministers that have said to me, my children are off. My children are out living in the world. And they tell me why send them to the university? Well, yeah. Because another spirit got in them. Yeah, that's good. That's right. That's right. I'm not saying don't send your children to university. I'm saying be led. Don't live your life on autopilot just because that's the way you were raised. You gotta be led because this is not the day you were raised in. Renew your mind to his leading. How is he leading you? Instead of letting weak minded generation. This is a weak minded generation who needs comfort pets. I'm not mocking that. I'm saying this is not for word people. We have the greater one on the inside of us. Let's live like it, let's think like it. You set your face like flint is what the word says. Faith will put a spiritual crowbar up your back. And I didn't try to be my children's best friend. They can get a best friend at school. I'm not their best friend. I'm their mother. I remember one time one of my sons walked in and said, hey Boo. And I said, hey boo.
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You.
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Don'T call me your boo. Your buddy out there that you play with at church is your boo. I'm not your boo. Don't you ever walk in and address me as your boo. Cause I'm not here to be your best friend. I am not here to be your best friend. Best friend. I am not. Because I'm not going to let you ruin my life by the choices you make. You're going to have regard for this home and regard for this family. You answer to someone always. You can't pray. Disobedience out of your children. You can't pray. Rebellion out. You deal with it well. I'm just praying for God to deal with my children. He did. He gave them a parent. That's exactly right. That's how he dealt with them. I never prayed for God to do something with the problems in my church. He did something about it. He gave my pastor. Here I am. We keeping it straight. We're keeping it straight. You don't injure my church family. We never had a church split. We never had a threat of a church split. Why the Holy Ghost kept us in front. Why a renewed mind follows the Holy Ghost and not your personality. Yeah. Yeah.
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Amen.
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Can I tell you this? In my personality, I'm not confrontational. You think I am, but I'm not. I'm really sweet, but I didn't pastor based on my personality because I had to confront wrongdoing to keep that church family safe. And believe me, I did. I've confronted my children, I've confronted congregation, I've confronted staff members, and I've confronted other ministers who called and chewed out one of my staff members one time. And I said, you're not authorized to touch my staff member. Don't you ever call one of my staff members and mishandle them again. I don't care what you are fivefold. And don't. While I'm on it. Just while I'm on it. I gotta get away from her because she stirs the pot. Don't ever blame rudeness on the office you stand in. Well, I'm just a prophet. I just said it like a prophet. Don't blame bad manners on the office. How many times have I heard that? Well, I just got a prophetic edge. You better learn you some love and get your mind renewed because God won't allow you to blame office for your bad behavior. You think I'm behaving badly now? No, I'm rescuing. I'm jerking you out the ditch. Hallelujah. Thank you. Because we need some plain talk so that people don't walk out and go, I don't know what she meant.
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We.
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Oklahoma. That's right this way. Oklahoma talk. Can I tell you this? Whenever I ran into something of difficulty in pastoring, of how to handle something, you know what I went back to? How did my mother raise me? What would mother have done? Billy's boy, what would mother have done? Why? Because pastoring is parenting. Yes, it is what it is. It's a parent. It's a parent. And so when something needed to be confronted in our church, I confronted it. That's how we kept it safe. That's why we didn't have problems in our church. That's why the Holy Ghost can move as he will because God Knows that I'll deal with something that tries to hinder God's best in that place. Why? To protect that church family and to protect the plan of God. And people would come up to. To my children, I heard them and say, isn't it just hard being a preacher's kid? Well, I've heard this. The ministry ruined my family. No, no. An unrenewed mind ruined your family. You did not renew your mind with the word. Don't blame bad behavior in a marriage on the call of God. You didn't renew your mind. You weren't a doer of the work. Just let's call it that. Let's call it the work of the ministry. Never ruined a family. Never ruined a family. An unrenewed mind. People not walking in love, not walking in faith, not being a doer of the word. That's what breaks down families. That's what ruins ministries. The ministry doesn't ruin ministries. No, it does not. No, it does not. The ministry did nothing but bless our lives. And I told our son when they'd say, when's Daddy coming home? I said, honey, I'm going to tell you. The reason this family's blessed is because your daddy's obeying God. We're here to help him obey God. And I will encourage him in that. And when he came home, I didn't say, you been gone. Here, you get the kids. No, he needs to come home and rest.
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That's exactly right.
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Come on. I was there to help him. I was not there to do my ministry women. My first call was to help him fulfill what he was born for. Because I was a help meet first. And when he said to me, you're the pastor, then I had to be the pastor because that was the help to him so that we could have a home base that his traveling ministry was based out of. I tell you what, you never heard my children. Well, it's hard being a preacher's kid. Are you kidding me? One of the greatest honors you can have in life is to be in the household of someone called of God. It's an honor. It's not a hardship. Well, people expect more out of me more than I expect out of you. I expect something out of you. Nobody will expect more out of you than I expect out of you. And what's wrong with you being example?
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Yeah, that's right.
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Well, I don't like people looking at me. Then what you doing wrong? What you doing wrong? Cause you're hiding something. Come on. Come on. Just saying. This weak parenting stuff. Cycles through every few generations. This weak parenting things. It's an unrenewed mind that swallows that stuff. Unrenewed mind that with an unrenewed mind, the devil will wreck your home, your family, your finances, your health, your marriage. He'll wreck everything. The renewed mind says, no, you don't. Not my home. Why? Because I don't let the flow the world define my home. The word defines my home. I did not pastor the church for 25 years based on my personality. I had to step over my flesh to obey God in pastoring. I had to step over when God would say, you go deal with that person. I had to step over my flesh because I'm not pastoring by personality. I'm pastoring by the word. Amen. My personality colors my pastorate, but it doesn't lead me. Several years ago in a service, God had me to warn a certain person and I warned him and I talked to him. My personality didn't want to do that. But in obedience to the, to the voice of God, I did it nicely. I just said, I'm just telling you this is a trap the devil has set for you. When they took steps against that instruction and ended in crisis, God said to me, aren't you glad you obeyed me because you're free from the responsibility of that. Dad Hagin was in a church, you said, I thought this was a miracle crusade. Dad Hagin was in a church and the Sunday school superintendent, who was over all the children's ministry stood in front of him in a ministry line one night. And the word of the Lord came to him and said this. You have no partnered lot in this because your heart is not right in the sight of the Lord. And that came up to him. And he had to basically stop himself from saying it because it came up his spirit and he didn't say it. And he said the anointing lifted off of him. And the pastor said they got back to his house because he stayed with the pastor in his home. And he said to him, he said, God said something to you about my Sunday school superintendent, didn't he? He said, yes. He said, why? Why did. He said, because the anointing lifted off of you at that point, never came back. When you ministered to the rest in the line, that anointing wasn't there. He said, no, I know. He said, I didn't obey what God told me to say. And he said, this is what God told me to say to her. You have no lot nor part in this because your heart's not right in the sight of the Lord. And the pastor said. He said, brother Hagin, he said, she's a nurse. And he said, there's something. I don't. I can't put my finger on it, but there's something, Something that's not right with her. He said, I think it has to do with the medicine, the drugs she's handling. And dad Hagin did not address that. Two years later, he was in the same area, picked up the newspaper and read that church was literally torn apart because it was made public that that nurse was selling drugs on the streets. She was stealing it and selling drugs on the street. And she got caught and it destroyed the church. And God said to dad Hagin, I'm going to hold you responsible for the outcome of that because I told you to say something and stop it, and you wouldn't. And he said, I could have rescued that church, but you wouldn't cooperate with me. A renewed mind obeys God because you never know what's connected to it down the line. And when that situation ended in a difficulty that God told me to warn, he said, aren't you glad you obeyed me? And I said, yes, Father. Thank God for helping me to obey you. I can't take credit, but he helps us to obey. Amen. The renewed mind is how you rescue your family. You want your home sweet. It's not just about going to church and getting ministered to and flowing with the spirit. It's about honoring the word enough to get it in you and allow it to govern the way you live, the way you respond in that home. Keep drama out of your home. Keep all that mess out of your home. Keep all of that drama. I tell you what. Nothing takes the place of peace. Nothing takes the place of having a joy, joyful, peaceful life and home, knowing I'm fulfilling the call of God. Why? Because I'm not exchanging it for any business. I'm not exchanging it for anything else. I just want what he wants, and I don't want to define it. I just want to hear it and walk it. The mental arena is always trying to come up with another plan. Yeah, that's an unrenewed mind. That's an unrenewed mind. Always trying to find another plan. His plan is the plan where Blessing lives. Can I tell you this? This home that we'll have in Texas is my fourth home that I currently own. I own four. Can I tell you. Let me say this. I point it Back to in 2009, when we were Ed and I had Bought what looked to us to be our dream home and our forever home. And one day God said, sell it. And something on that. Oh. And I said, I don't understand why. I don't understand why, but I'm going to do it because you said to. And then the day he went home to be with the Lord, God said, I saw this event coming, and I couldn't tell you why to sell it. But you obeyed me. And today I have four, because I obeyed him with one why. If you give up houses, lands, loved ones that don't understand the plan of God, God will give you more than you ever dreamed of. And I don't work for it. I hear it and follow him. I hear and follow, hear and follow. I don't figure out and plan. I don't calculate and measure. I hear and I follow. That's what a renewed mind does. An unrenewed mind comes up with its own plan. But the renewed mind knows God's plan is the only plan worth living for. It's only the plan of God that makes life great. Did you hear that? It's only the plan of God that makes life great. Hallelujah. In the plan of God is every answer for your life. In the plan of God is every help for your life. God said to me years ago when I was writing the book called God the revealer secrets. He said, make my people to know that long life is connected to my plan. It's not connected to your health routine and your bucket of broccoli. I'm not saying don't take care of the body. I'm saying you can't take care of the body and disobey the plan and think that long life is at the end of that. Have all of that in place. But the plan is first and foremost. Anybody ever heard of Mama Jenkins? Wow. Let me tell you a little bit of her testimony, and then we'll close. I'll minister to those some tonight. She was at home one day, and God said to her, go to the hospital. She didn't know why, not for her own care. But God told her, go to the hospital. So he didn't tell her where to go. So she went down to the hospital, and she just walks in the door and starts walking down a corridor of the hospital, and she hears two nurses talking. They're getting ready to perform a surgery to separate conjoined twins. And one of them is going to die. They have to. They have to choose which one lives because they both can't live. And she hears them having the conversation. Because within the hour, they're fixing to perform this surgery. The nurses walk out, and she walks in and prays a prayer over those conjoined twins. And she walks out. No one saw her. She walked out. She gets toward the other end of the corridor and she hears screaming. Those nurses went back in and those babies were. Were separated. She didn't see it, but God did it. After she walked out and she was still in the corridor. I'm talking a woman who walked with God. Smith Wigglesworth was her spiritual father. He came over all the way from England by boat, came up to her home and corrected her on one thing and got back on the boat and went back to England. That's the rapport they had. She was a female, Wigglesworth, At 62. She was a diabetic. She was overweight. She was sitting in a wheelchair, crippled and blind. And Jesus walked in and stood. I love this. It's a challenge to me. He walked in and stood in front of her and said, what are you doing in this wheelchair? Why? Because she'd let things slip. She'd let her authority slip. She let some things slip. That woman was out of that wheelchair sight restored. Drove her own self all around the United States, preaching till she was 104. Why? She got back up on her authority. And it wasn't broccoli that did. Was obeying the plan of God. In the plan of God is the requirement to renew the mind. What do I mean by renewing the mind? Feeding on the word, meditating on it till it becomes embedded in you and it starts dictating the way you think, dictating the way you respond, the dictating where you go and the words you say. That's the renewing of the mind. And no ministry line will take the place of it. No gift of the Spirit will take the place of it. And I'm not devaluing any of that. They all have their place, and none can substitute for the other. There is no substitute for a lack of a renewed mind. Every ministry line is temporary help. Every prayer that someone prays with you and for you is only temporary help to buy you time to renew your mind. That's what it's for. And when God heals us, it's not so we can keep living the way we lived. That got us in that condition. He is buying us time to give us the chance to correct what got us in that state. He doesn't heal us so we can go back to our bad habits. He heals us to give us Time. I'm talking healing us through someone else's faith and ministry because he's buying us time to make corrections, not so we can go back to bad habits that got us in that situation. There was a woman who was a minister's wife. She was quite capable. She was administrative. She ran the whole ministry. They had a traveling ministry. She did not rest properly. Dr. Sumrall said this overwork never killed anyone. It's lack of rest that will kill them. Meaning you work hard. You can work hard, but you better have rest in there. Yes, yes, yes. And so this woman worked hard, but she ran her body down. The body will kick out certain things. God puts that capability in there. But she had so drained and depleted her body that it could no longer resist things. So she ended up with a terminal form of cancer. God healed her supernaturally. I don't know if someone ministered to her or what, but she was healed supernaturally. Two years later, we get a phone call. We're in a conference, and they said to my husband, would you please pray for such and such. She's dying again. She has been diagnosed, and this time it has accelerated so quickly. And God spoke to my husband and said, she will not receive her healing this time. He said, I healed her once, and she did not use that opportunity to correct anything. She went back to the way she operated, and she's in heaven now prematurely. Why is that? Because when we receive something from God, it's not so we can keep doing it wrong. It's so we are having time to correct and make adjustments and renew our mind with the word. Some of you are trying to recover from the child talk, but. But I'm an okay. And you're tough. Hallelujah. Are you helped tonight? I told Morgan, I said, you know, I always carry sermons. I have bags of sermons. I got stacks of sermons, always with me. And I said, but you know what? I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I just can't get anything clear. So I'm just going to go. Just going to go. Thank you for going with me. Thank you so much for going with me tonight. Thank you for being a place and a congregation. I don't say this because you're in trouble, but this is a place where it can be said. Amen. I like that someone doesn't have to dial it back because I'm present. I want full blast, Right? Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. How many of you know that that love won't turn you weak? How many of you Know that walking in love does not mean being permissive toward wrongdoing. God is love. And one day, how many of you know, in a perfect society of heaven, one day things tried to get out of order and love rose up and said, not here. And kicked him out. And he fell like lightning. Why? Because love will not agree with wrongdoing. Praise the Lord. Stand if you would tonight, Father. We thank you. We thank you. I don't know if you can get a song out of that one, brother. I think I do. Good. I actually do. It's really simple. Okay.
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So the single here comes. We'll do it together. His plan is perfect for me his plan is perfect for me I read his word his plan I see his plan is perfect for me his plan is perfect for me Me his plan is perfect for me I read his word I read his word his plan, his plan I'll see his plan is perfect for me he's planning is perfect.
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For me.
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His plan is perfect for me I will his word, his plan I'll see his plan is perfect for.
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Me Just one more time.
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This plan is perfect for me.
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His.
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Plan is perfect for me I read his word his plan I see his plan.
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Can I tell you this? In his plan is wholeness. In his plan is the answer for your need. In his plan is the power to change any situation. Amen. On Thursday night, we're going to minister to anyone who needs healing. But tonight, if you say, Pastor Nathaniel, Nancy, this is the last night that I can be here, and I came specifically for the purpose of having hands laid on me to minister healing, I want to invite you. Raise your hand if that's you tonight. If you say, I came specifically for that, praise the Lord. Raise your hand if that's you. I can see some hands. Just keep them raised, if you would. Those of you who say, this is my life last night, we want to minister to you. So those of you only who have your hands raised, come up here if you would, and it is our joy to join our faith with you. Hallelujah. Can I tell you this? Listen to me regarding this. Listen to me regarding this. I don't join my faith with you so that you don't have to use yours. Right? No one's faith is meant to substitute for another person's faith. So I'm going to believe, you're going to believe, and the congregation is going to join their faith with us. Amen. Why? Because in a corporate faith, it's easier to receive. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Let's do that with him.
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His plan is healing his plan is healing for me. I read. I read his word and his plan. His plan I see his plan is healing his plan is healing for me.
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One more time.
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His plan is healing for me. His plan is healing for me. I read his word. His plan I'll see His plan is he.
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For what is it that you need? I have a hip that just won't let me. A hip? Uh huh. And you don't have a hip replacement in there, do you? Okay. Congregation, reach your hands out this way. Father, we thank you. We thank you for new hip. We thank you. There went that anointing in you. There it went in you. Father, we thank you. Oh, it's so good to be healed. Oh, we believe in the power of God. We believe in the power of God. Can I tell you something? I don't know if I don't think they're here tonight, but there was that man who was in the back corner. Those of you who were here last night, his wife is here. I went home so impressed with that man. You want to know why? He was ill. He had cancer. He got up, he got dressed, he got in the car, he rode, he sat through the service. Because he wasn't just waiting for God to do something. He did something. That is faith for you to come tonight. It's faith when you come and you sit and you sit through the teaching of the Word and the preaching of the Word, and you come up here, it's easier to stay home and just hope God does something. That's what the unknowledgeable will do. But we know this. Our miracle involves us. It involves us how we respond. And you came. And I'm blessed that you've come to receive. Father, we thank you that that power's working. There it goes in. There it goes in right there. There it went in. What about you, sir?
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Woman of God, I know when you lay your hands on me, I will be healed.
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Amen.
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Food allergies, mold toxicity and inflammation.
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Father, we thank you. We thank you for wholeness. There goes that anointing in. There it goes in. There it goes in. Hallelujah. Once that anointing goes in. Because I can feel it going in from my hand right into your body. Once that anointing goes in, we're authorized to call ourselves whole. Why? Because the anointing destroys the yoke. The anointing destroys it. What about you, Love in your feet? Yeah. Yeah. Father, we thank you for reviving, making new Making whole all that pain and difficulty go in Jesus name for her or for you love? Yeah, what is it? I have two of my pieces until my kids die nine months apart. Sure, sure, sure. Father, we thank you for revealing yourself. Satan, you've stolen from this precious woman and this congregation says no more. You won't steal her peace, you won't steal her joy, you won't steal her hope, you won't steal her future. And Father, we thank you for revealing yourself to her through your word, but through your presence. And we say be peaceful in your mind. Casting your care on him, Casting your care on him. For he cares. Casting it into his hands to work. And he, he will restore and put back in such a way that you'll recognize God has been. Ah, there. There goes that anointing love. She said that two of her children had died within a nine month period. But how many of you know God knows how to. Everything that is lost, he will fill it with himself. So that we're not living with an emptiness and an empty space. Amen. What about you, love? Bone cancer. Would you grab a chair and put behind her please? Hallelujah. Thank you. Hallelujah. Just stay right there and I'll minister to you. Father, we thank you. Your plan for her is wholeness, cancer. You take your hand off her. You take your hand off her body. In Jesus name. You take your hands off. And we thank you for that anointing that makes whole. Oh, we thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. Do you sense that go in your love? Yeah. Yeah. You just sit there and let it work. Just let it work. Let that anointing work. We thank you, Father. What about you, sir? I'm here with my wife. Yes, I've had a triple bypass surgery. A renal valve that once too. Friday I was gonna go in for surgery. For whatever reason God had prolonged it for this Friday. Yeah, yeah. And I'm so glad you're here. And tonight was a help to you. What's that mean? Feed that word and feed that double up. Double up. You know, the dev. The doctors sometimes will prescribe extra dosage of things. God. God's word performs like medicine. Double up on that feed that healing word. I'm sure you're doing it, but just keep doubling up. Amen. And we join our faith with you. There's no sense in having a series of one problem after another. Right? It doesn't belong to us. No. We say Satan, you take your hands off her body. And Jesus Father, we receive wholeness. We receive wholeness from the Top of her head to the soles of her feet. And restoring. Restoring health to her speedily. In Jesus name. What about you, sir? I got a lump on my side. Don't know what it is yet. Cause discomfort. Yeah, yeah, we speak to that lump. Dry up in Jesus name. Dry up in Jesus, Jesus name. What about you? Love healing.
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I'm having gum problems.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Father, we thank you for new gum. There it goes. Love new gums. What about you, love? A week and a half ago, I was run into my truck, so I have a cracked sternum and cracked ribs. Cracked ribs, yeah. And a shoulder. And then on my ankles. My ankles are weak. They want to make me have, like. Have to wear something. Right, right. To strengthen it. And also I'd like to ask for a miracle for grain for Oklahoma. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, I know. I understand. I want y' all to put a chair behind her, if you would, please, because hers is ribs and stuff, and I don't want to make her uncomfortable when we minister to her at all. Just put it right up behind her. Thank you, Father. We thank you for speedy, speedy recovery. Those ribs, the shoulder, the ankles, strength. We thank you, Father. We thank you for wholeness in Jesus name. We thank you for it, Father. We thank you for it, Father. Hallelujah. What about for him? What about for him? Yeah. And y' all are married, huh? Oh, that's so easy. That's so easy. 20 years. Father, we thank you for giving them their heart's desire in Jesus name. Heart's desire met in Jesus name wholeness. We thank you, Father. We thank you. We thank you for granting them everything they desire it can from you, Father. So we thank you for fil. For fulfilling what's in their heart and your heart for them in Jesus name. For wholeness, in Jesus name. What about it? For him or for you? For both of us.
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Okay.
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And also two other children in our family. We've had, like, a respiratory attack on five of our seven. You have seven babies? Nine total. Nine total. And five of them have respiratory issues. Five of you, you have cloths. When you get home, you lay these cloths on them. Give me three more. Three more? Yes. We'll just give this woman a stack. She got so many children. You can pull these out at different times in the future.
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Hallelujah.
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Hallelujah. Father, we thank you for that anointing that goes into this cloth. And when it's laid upon their bodies, they shall be whole. I speak for lungs, to be clear. I speak for lungs, to be whole. I thank you, Father, that your power does what no other power can do. In Jesus name. Amen. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Can I say this to you? Can I tell you what I'm primarily ministering and talking to you about tonight? Add knowledge of the Word to what God's power will do. Don't just say, well, God will do it. God will do it. But have no knowledge of the Word to stand on. You need the Word and the Spirit, the Word and the Spirit, the Word and the Spirit. Because without the Word, the Spirit has nothing to work with. The Spirit does not work apart from the Word. Two thirds of Jesus ministry was delivering the Word, teaching, preaching. Notice it doesn't say he went everywhere preaching, teaching and healing. He went everywhere teaching, preaching and healing. The church needs teaching more than anything. If you'll teach them, they'll receive healing. If you'll preach, they'll receive healing. Preaching is proclaiming what belongs to them. Amen. So I encourage you. Don't just rely on one flow. Jesus didn't just rely on one flow. And if anybody could have just relied on one flow, it could have been him. And he didn't. Teaching, preaching, the flow of the Spirit, the flow of power. Amen. Father, we thank you tonight. We thank you, we thank you, we thank you. We thank you. We thank you. We glorify you. We magnify you. Those of you who had hands laid on you, do something you couldn't do. Move around, do something you couldn't do. And when you leave this place, those of you who had hands laid on you, your only assignment is say, thank God. It's mine. Thank God healing and wholeness is mine. And rejoice that it's yours. That's your only assignment. Assignment. That's your only assignment. Thanking God. Not trying to figure out, not trying to feel better, but just saying thank you, Father. That power is working in me, therefore I am whole. The power is working in me, therefore I am whole. In Jesus name. Amen. Hallelujah. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries.