Podcast Summary
Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode Title: Tuesday AM | Joel & Amy Siegel | Paducah, KY | Miracle Crusade 2021
Date: May 26, 2021
Main Speakers: Joel & Amy Siegel
Theme: The Power and Practice of Prayer in the Last Days
Episode Overview
In this Miracle Crusade session, Joel and Amy Siegel dive deep into the subject of prayer, especially as it relates to the responsibilities and opportunities for believers in the "end times." Their teaching focuses on moving from "bedtime prayers" to "end time prayers," encouraging Christians to bring the supernatural to bear on earthly circumstances. Using biblical examples, personal stories, and practical insights, the Siegels illustrate how effectual, fervent, Spirit-led prayer generates spiritual power, transforms situations, and advances God’s plan on earth.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Importance of Prayer in the End Times
- Scripture Foundation: 1 Peter 4:7 – "The end of all things is at hand; be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer."
- Joel emphasizes that this passage is not a call to panic or fear, but a directive for sober-mindedness and watchfulness in prayer.
- "The end of all things is at hand. Be therefore sober and watch unto prayer. What a verse, huh? Now, don't read that the way a lot of people read that. A lot of people read it this way. The end of the world is coming. Be afraid and pray that it doesn't happen. ... That's not what it says." (B, 04:49)
- Context: Believers need to "get their bearings" from the Word of God and shed traditional, ineffective notions of prayer.
2. Moving from Bedtime Prayers to End Time Prayers
- Many Christians are stuck in routine, rote, or tradition-bound prayers (e.g., "Now I lay me down to sleep"), which Joel dubs "bedtime prayers." The call is to become skillful in "end time prayers"—those that bring God’s power to bear on urgent personal and global situations.
- "We need to go from bedtime prayers to end time prayers and be skillful in the types of prayer that will cause us to make progress, that will cause the plan of God to make progress." (B, 07:30)
3. The Cooperative Power of Corporate Prayer
- Scriptural Example: Philippians 1:19 – Paul's deliverance came not just through his prayers, but "through your prayer and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ."
- Insight: Some circumstances are too large for one person’s prayers; they require the body of Christ to join together.
- "There are things and situations that can appear in your life or appear in the body of Christ that are bigger than what one person's prayer life can handle. There are things that require the assist, that require the help of others in the body of Christ." (B, 11:51)
- Anecdote: Joel shares a testimony of a friend close to death who survived because of others' effective prayers, illustrating that skilled, faith-filled prayer can literally save lives.
4. Creating an Atmosphere Conducive to God’s Move
- Practical Illustration (Amy): Living in arid Colorado, Amy notes that "rain clouds" don’t always produce rain because the atmosphere is too dry: "It is raining up there, but the atmosphere is so dry that it sucks the moisture before it ever gets to the ground. ... Prayer makes the atmosphere conducive." (E, 38:51 / 39:16)
- Spiritual Application: Fervent prayer "saturates" the atmosphere of a church or region, making it easy for people to experience God's power and for the gifts of the Spirit to manifest.
5. Effectual, Fervent, Spirit-Led Prayer
- James 5:16 Reference: "The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much."
- The power of prayer is not in volume, excitement, or emotion, but in flowing with the Spirit’s leading—sometimes expressed as rejoicing, weeping, loudness, or quietness.
- "Effectual, fervent. Doesn't mean we just get louder. Doesn't mean we just get more excited. ... It's finding how the Spirit is leading us to pray at that time and connecting, hooking up with the direction he's leading us." (E, 42:52)
6. Prayer Brings God's Gifts and Anointing Forward
- 2 Corinthians 1:8–11: Paul's deliverance was by "many persons helping together by prayer."
- Insight: The term "gift" in this passage refers to anointings and endowments made available "by means of many persons" praying together (B, 33:14–37:39).
- Illustration: Just as products are useless if kept in a store’s stockroom, so spiritual blessings "in the spirit realm" must be brought to the "front shelf" of the natural realm by prayer.
7. Historical and Personal Examples of Power-Generating Prayer
- Revivalist Stories: Historical revivals, such as those led by Mariah Etter or Charles Finney, began with groups committed to changing the "spiritual atmosphere" through prayer (E, 41:09).
- Modern Application: Churches today must maintain an atmosphere "saturated" with the presence of God for revival to persist and for souls to be reached.
8. Tongues as a Form of Spirit-Led Prayer
- Not limited to doctrinal circles—praying in other tongues can generate power, but it's not the only way; praise and worship can also be forms of effectual prayer (B, 44:37).
- Encouragement: Those new to Spirit baptism can receive and participate by faith, even if they've never experienced tongues before (B, 46:03).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Sober Thinking in the Last Days:
"Be therefore sober. What's that mean? Think correctly. Have your mind renewed. ... Take your place in prayer." (B, 06:12) -
On Distinguishing Prayer Types:
"We need to go from bedtime prayers to end time prayers." (B, 07:29) -
On the Power of Corporate Prayer:
"There are things in your life that require the help of others in the body of Christ. ... Effective prayer, not defective prayer—we don't want defective prayer." (B, 13:53) -
On Spiritual Atmosphere:
(Amy Siegel) "It is raining. But the atmosphere is not conducive to receive. Prayer makes the atmosphere conducive." (E, 39:16) -
On Revival and Atmosphere:
"It ought to be the case that when a lost person comes into a church like this, that prayer has been made ... when they get in their seat, they ought to realize somebody else is in this seat along with me." (B, 36:49) -
On Spirit-Led Prayer:
(Amy Siegel) "Effectual fervent doesn't mean we just get louder ... It's finding how the Spirit is leading us to pray at that time and connecting, hooking up with the direction he's leading us." (E, 42:52)
Important Timed Segments
- [00:09]–[06:58]: Opening praise, introduction to the subject of prayer, biblical context (1 Peter 4:7).
- [06:58]–[11:51]: The difference between rote and effectual prayer, dangers of tradition.
- [11:51]–[27:08]: The necessity of corporate prayer—Philippians and 2 Corinthians examples, testimonies of effective prayer.
- [37:55]–[44:00]: Atmosphere analogy, the importance of a "saturated" church environment, prayer in past revivals.
- [44:37]–[46:03]: Variety in prayer: tongues, praise, and worship as forms of effectual prayer.
- [47:41]–[72:17]: Transition into actual group prayer and extended praise session.
- [72:17]–[73:49]: Exhortation to "go further in the spirit."
- [73:49]–[End]: Ministry announcements, encouragements, testimonies, and offering.
Actionable Exhortations
- Take Your Place in Prayer: Become skillful and Spirit-led; don’t rely on old religious routines.
- Cooperate Together: Join with others in prayer, both for your own needs and the needs of the church and world.
- Saturate Your Spiritual Atmosphere: Engage in prayer and worship to make God’s power accessible and tangible.
- Go Further: Commit to deeper, more effective prayer to permit God to move in and through you.
Conclusion
This episode is an impassioned call for believers to recognize and seize their privilege and responsibility in prayer, especially in these “last days.” Rather than simply praying for personal needs or with traditional forms, the church is called to “watch unto prayer”—to partner with God and one another to bring divine power and the Kingdom’s advancement into full manifestation.
