Dufresne Ministries Podcast

Episode: Word & Spirit Men | Nancy Dufresne | Georgetown, TX | Sunday PM | Miracle Crusade 2022
Date: September 7, 2022
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Location: Georgetown, TX

Episode Overview

This dynamic episode centers on the dual importance of being "Word and Spirit" people—anchored in scripture and filled with the Holy Spirit—within the life of believers and the local church. Pastor Nancy Dufresne teaches on the power and necessity of unity, fullness, and divine order, connecting scriptural examples to practical ministry and daily Christian living. The latter half transitions into a miraculous healing service, featuring multiple ministers leading in prayer, impartation, and personal testimony.

Key Discussion Points & Teachings

1. Legacy of "Word and Spirit" Ministry

• Nancy Dufresne opens by referencing the prophetic legacy of Kenneth E. Hagin, emphasizing the need to carry forward his message rather than seeking something new.

  “We pride ourselves on being faith people, and that's a good thing…but we have to remember we're also spirit people.” (Nancy Dufresne, 00:28)

• She asks the congregation to “go with me on this trip” of exploring foundational truths and encourages active belief for utterance. (01:22)

2. Acts 6: Multiplication, Strife & Divine Order

• Pastor Nancy delves into Acts 6, explaining how church growth leads to challenges, notably the rise of strife.
  • Strife, especially of a racial nature, is identified as a "killer of increase" and a tool of the enemy (03:24).
  • Key principle: “No one has enough to fund strife. No one.” (Nancy Dufresne, 04:14)
  • She emphasizes biblical unity and oneness in Christ, quoting Galatians 3:26-29 (07:21-08:03).
• The apostles’ solution is discussed: appointing men “of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost, and wisdom” to handle practical matters, allowing leaders to focus on prayer and the Word (11:03).

3. The Power-Faith Connection: Stephen as a Model

• Stephen is highlighted as a “Word and Spirit” man, distinguished from the others by being “full of faith and power,” not just full of the Holy Ghost (14:10).

  "The power of God requires something to be mixed with it for it to come into manifestation. It's called faith." (Nancy Dufresne, 14:56)

• Everyday illustrations drive the point home: Just as you must add the right ingredient (faith) to bring out a result, God’s power must be mixed with personal faith to produce miracles (15:00-17:20).

  "You can't add worry...fear...strife to the power of God and get miracles." (16:21)

4. Living Filled: Ephesians & The Risk of Emptiness

• Moves to Ephesians 6: "Be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might" equates to being strong in the Word and the Holy Spirit (19:03).
• Cautions about the risk of trying to live and resist the devil on "empty" (20:48).

  "The safety is in fullness. The risk is in not being full." (Nancy Dufresne, 21:12)

• Ephesians 5:18 is explained as a command, not a suggestion: "Be being filled" is ongoing and necessary for the Christian life, not a one-time event (22:36).

  "Start every day in the Spirit, and then keep your heart turned toward me all day long." (22:56)

5. Fullness & Divine Leadership: The Example of Jesus

• Luke 4:1—Jesus Himself needed to be full of the Holy Ghost. Fullness made Him able to be accurately led and to confront the enemy (25:24; 26:37).

  "It's easier to know the leading when you're full." (Nancy Dufresne, 26:38)

• Jesus faces temptation full, and comes out full—"demonstrating our mastery," not hoping for victory (27:45-29:03).

  "When you're empty, any old thing can fill you… But when you're full, there's not room for anything else that's offered to you." (29:05-29:33)

6. The Draw of Fullness

• The world is drawn to fullness—whether good or bad. The believer full of the Word and Spirit can effect real change (31:16-32:10).

  "Empty people don't change anything about the earth… But full people set their own flows." (31:17)

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Unity & Strife
  “Never fall into the strategy of strife through racial issues. That’s a strategy to distract the church from the greatness of the plan that we're hooked up to.” (06:16)

• On Leadership
  “We’re not the cleanup crew in the body of Christ… The Holy Ghost kept us in front of situations.” (10:32)

• On Filling and Living Full
  “The thing that’s wrong for the believer to deal with things that have an addictive ability is because it costs Jesus everything to set you free.” (20:48)

• Miraculous Power and Faith
  “Power is what we have, but faith is what we do.” (15:44)

• On Receiving Healing
  “The power of God is present here... waiting for your faith to say I take it. Amen. All you have to do is receive it. You know how you receive it? With words that come from your heart: I receive it.” (37:23)

Important Segments with Timestamps

| Segment | Description | Timestamp | |-------------|-----------------|--------------| | Legacy & Theme Introduction | Nancy sets the "Word & Spirit" stage, referencing Dad Hagin | 00:00-02:50 | | Acts 6 – Unity, Strife, and Church Order | Discussion of strife as an enemy to growth, Biblical order | 03:00-13:00 | | The Stephen Principle | Why faith + power produce miracles; everyday analogies | 13:00-17:20 | | Ephesians: Be Full Continuously | On being strong in the Lord, "be being filled" teaching | 18:00-24:30 | | The Example of Jesus’ Fullness | Fullness in Jesus’ temptation, avoiding spiritual emptiness | 25:00-31:00 | | Fullness Draws People | The world seeks fullness; Christians must be full of God | 31:10-33:00 | | Worship & Thanksgiving | Congregational worship and gratitude for fullness | 33:10-36:00 | | Healing Ministry (Heart Conditions) | Nancy invites those with heart issues, leads in corporate faith | 36:17-40:59 | | Healing Ministry (Hands, Legs, Joints) | Pastor Dennis and others minister to specific conditions | 41:45-65:13 | | Personal Testimony (Ms. Leanne) | Testimony of supernatural healing after car accident | 56:48-61:06 | | Additional Words of Knowledge & Healing | Ministry for joints, sleep disorders, pressure in the mind | 62:01-68:19 | | Closing Reflections | Final thanksgiving, declaration of healing | 68:19-end |

Highlights from the Healing Ministry

• Instructional Declarations

  • “Say this with me… when hands are laid on me, the healing power of God will go into my body. It will drive out pain and symptoms, sickness and disease, and I shall be whole.” (37:54)

• Specific Healings Called Out

  • Heart conditions, high blood pressure, valve issues (36:19+)
  • Hand tremors, arthritis (45:05+)
  • Sleep disorders, joint issues (65:52+)
  • “Right above the collarbone, right in this area, there's healing going on. Somebody. There was a growth in this area. That's being healed right now...” (45:07)

• Empowering the Congregation

  • Multiple times, the congregation is called to add their faith and participate in the ministry (37:27, 38:38).
  • “Has she been ministered to? Okay... Pastor Amy, what do you have in your heart to call out? ...complete healing, in Jesus name.” (65:52-66:55)

• On Testimony and the Power of Words

  • “It’s so good to be healed... That’s why you say it.” (68:41)
  • Ms. Leanne shares a moving testimony about receiving healing, regaining mobility, and the ongoing effect of faith and ministry. (56:48-61:06)

Tone & Atmosphere

• Warm, faith-charged, and participatory, the tone seamlessly blends teaching, exhortation, and practical ministry. The episode moves naturally from deep scriptural instruction to an outpouring of worship and personal testimony, closing with a corporate celebration of healing.

Conclusion

If you missed the episode, you missed powerful teachings on living “full” in the Word and Spirit, strategic insight into church unity and divine leadership, and a powerful healing ministry segment. Nancy Dufresne and team not only instruct on the importance of fullness but demonstrate it—calling out and ministering miracles in real time and encouraging every believer to live “Word and Spirit” in daily practice.

For Further Engagement

• Replay key teaching moments:
  • The "Stephen Principle" on faith and power – 13:00-17:20
  • Ephesians 5 and the command of “be being filled” – 22:36-24:30
  • Healing prayers and testimonies – 36:19 to episode end
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