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Nancy Dufresne
Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message. Dad Hagin was, I believe it was at Winter Bible Seminar, his Last one in 2003. He began. He sat on the platform and began to prophesy. And one of the things that he said, he said, we pride ourselves on being faith people, and that's a good thing, that we're faith people. And he said, but we have to remember we're also spirit people. So these words are significant at his exit time to help us stay on course that what we're going to hold to and remember when he wasn't here, to keep speaking into the direction that we're taking. So my husband and I, we paid attention. What was he saying when he exited? Because we're going to pick that up and go further. We're not going to look for something new. We're just going to stay on the flow of the message that God was promoting and we'll see how tonight comes out. Will you go with me on this trip? Yeah. You believe with me for utterance, right? Acts chapter six. Turn with me if you would, because I want you to see word and spirit did not begin with this generation. This phrase didn't begin with dad Hagin. Acts chapter six and verse one. And if you'll bear with me, we'll get to where I'm going, but we'll take a few rabbit trails along the way. Acts chapter 6 and verse 1, it reads, and in those days when the number of the disciples. Disciples was multiplied. So what's going on? It's increasing. And not just addition, multiplication accelerated Increase. In those days. What days when multiplication is taking place, there arose a murmuring. What's that mean? Strife comes a device. The enemy at a time of increase is always looking for a way to shut increase down. And we see one of his number one strategies is get strife in place. So he says, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. Strife is an increased killer in your own home, in your own finances, in a local church, strife brings the end of increase. I've told in our church of 25 years of pastoring, I would say to our couples, our married couples, before you get in strife with one another in your home, ask yourself this, do I have enough money to fund this? Because when you get in strife, the increase is cut off not from God, but strife shuts it down. And I guarantee you, I don't care how much money you got, no one has enough to fund strife. No one. Amen. And we see that in this verse. We see that there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews. So what is it? This strife is of a racial nature. Yeah, that's right. One against another. How many of you know this is old strategy? Same old strategy the enemy uses today. Same one the world promotes because that's the way they get their attention. Never fall into the strategy of strife through racial issues. That's a strategy to distract the church from the greatness of. Of the plan that we're hooked up to. And all of that should not describe us because we are one body, one in Christ. I want. And I'll just read this to you. You might want to take a Note. Galatians, chapter 3, verse 26 says, for ye are all the children of God. He's not talking all humans, but all believers. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek. There's neither bond nor free. There's neither male nor female. For ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. So when we come into oneness, we come into ownership. Amen. So I want you to see, this is that we are in Christ. This is where all outward natural distinctions disappear. They don't matter anymore in the body of Christ. It's carnal to measure distinctions. Amen. Because we are in Christ. I so appreciate one leading minister has a well known television ministry. And years ago when one of the other nationally known ministries fell in the eyes of the public and you know, the media made a big, big deal out of it, the media called this one leading pastor and said, we would like your comment on what's happened to this ministry. And I love what this pastor said. He said, that's family business. And he hung up. We're family and I'm not against, not against my family. Because we see this is the strife that the devil tries to bring to shut down multiplication and increase in the body of Christ in the move of God, verse 2. Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, so notice they recognize there's something trying to start up that's trying to get out of place here. And they said, it is not reason that we should leave the word of God and serve tables. When things tried to get out of order, the Apostles addressed it immediately. They didn't just see what would happen. They didn't let things play out. This is called being in front of things. We're not the cleanup crew in the body of Christ. We're the head and not the tail. That means that devil's not just working and we run around and clean up the messes he makes. If we'll follow the Holy Ghost and walk in the light of the Word, we'll get in front of situations. In 25 years of pastoring, we never had a church split. We never had a threat of a church split. Why? Because the Holy Ghost kept us in front of situations. And when I would see something, try to get unsettled, I dealt with it. I didn't pray, oh, God, do something about it. He did do something about it. He gave him a pastor. He expected the pastor, me, to stand up and hold things in place. This is what we see the apostles doing. When things are trying to get out of order, they step up to put things back into place. They weren't saying they were beneath serving tables. They were saying we can't serve tables and fulfill what our role is. Everyone has a part to play. I said everyone has a part to play. And what an honor to get to do anything in God's family. Amen. Honor to be in church services and to serve is the highlight of my life. It's the highlight of my week. I don't schedule my life and fit church in. I schedule church, and anything else that can fit in will fit in. There's a divine order, verse 3. Here they come up with a Holy Ghost solution to this. Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you. Seven men. Number one of honest report, number two, full of the Holy Ghost, number three, full of wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. Notice this. You need to be full of the Holy Ghost, have an honest report, Be full of wisdom to conduct God's business. Why? Because natural human ability will not fulfill divine plans. You have to have divine ability. Be full of the Holy ghost. Amen. Verse 4. But we will give ourselves continually to prayer and to the ministry of the Word. And the saying pleased the whole multitude. And they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and full of the Holy Ghost. And then it goes on and lists the other six that were chosen. Verse 6 says, whom they set before the apostles. And when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them. Why did they lay their hands on them? All they're doing is distributing food daily. The daily necessities of the church family. Why? Because Having their hands laid on from the apostles. Something of the apostles spirit's gonna be imparted the same intent, the same heart, the same motive. They're not going to be serving, trying to get something for themselves. They have the apostles heart of what God put in them for the vision of that church. Amen. And so we see that they weren't. These men were not inserting their own vision. They wanted to carry out what first resided in the apostles. Because God gives the vision to the leadership and then those under it take on that vision. We don't bring our vision and try to get the pastor to insert our vision into his. We're here to hear what God said to our man of God and say, that's my direction. Now look at verse seven. Look at this. And the word of God increased. Ah, it picked up where it had left off. Now increase can come back into play. Why? Because they brought in a Holy Ghost solution to the problem. And it says, and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly. Do you know the multiplication depended on the peace of of that local congregation? The unity of that local congregation affected how far that word would go in that city. It matters that we only stand in agreement with our pastor. We stand in agreement with our church family. Because anything else is going to hinder the effect of the word outside this building. Verse 8. And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people. Notice Stephen is not one of the apostles. He's not a preacher. He's a layman that's been appointed to help with the daily duties and responsibilities of that church family. But notice he's full of something. He's full of faith and he's full of power. In verse 5 it says that he was full of power. That he was full of faith and full of the Holy Ghost. To be full of the Holy Ghost, it means the same thing as to be full of power. If you're full of the Holy Ghost, you're full of power. How many of you are filled with the Holy Ghost in this place? With the evidence of speaking in tongues, you're full of power. Amen. The other six men that were chosen alongside with Stephen, they had to meet the same three qualifications. Honest report, full of the Holy Ghost, full of wisdom. So the other six men were also full of the Holy Ghost. But we don't have any record that there were any miracles through them. They're full of the Holy Ghost, but there's not manifestations of the power that they're full of. What we don't want to do is be carriers of this power, and nothing's showing up. Nothing's coming into manifestation. Nothing is being worked. Because there is the danger that you can be full of the Holy Ghost and nothing else comes of that. Yeah, what was the difference? It does not record about the other six men, that they were full of faith. It records that about Stephen. He was full of faith and full of power. Full of the Holy Ghost. When you mix faith into the power that you're full of, you get a divine explosion called miracles, manifestations, wonders. Amen. Have you ever seen a movie or a show and there are some really interesting character down in the basement mixing chemicals, and he's experimenting down there, and he mixes something that he doesn't realize what it will get him and it blows up things down there. Why? Because certain things were mixed together. The power of God requires something to be mixed with it for it to come into manifestation station. It's called faith. It's called faith. I'm not much of a cook on purpose. I can do little stuff, you know, stuff to survive. Several years ago, I saw something that even was a temptation to me. And that was a jug, you know, like a milk carton. You know, a plastic carton with a handle, A gallon milk carton. But this had pancake mix in it. And all you did, you didn't have to mix anything. All you did was hold it under the faucet and add like a cup or something of water, and then you shake it. There's your pancake mix. I go, I could do that. I would be a conqueror at that. But it tells you what to add. You add the wrong thing, you don't get the right outcome. You can't add worry to the power of God and get miracles. You can't add fear to the power of God and get miracles. You can't add strife to the power of God and have a manifestation of what God has. You have to add specifically what's instructed. Stephen was full of faith, full of power. The power that's on the inside of you is waiting for your faith to show up, to mix that faith into that power. So much of the time, people are praying for God to send the power, and he's waiting for them to mix something with the power, their faith. I said their faith.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
It's faith that brings that power into manifestation so that something is worked. Power is what we have, but faith is what we do. Do you get that? Power is what we have, but faith is what we do. If we don't do something. The power that we have won't come into effect. We have to do something. Faith is an act. Faith says something. Faith acts on what God directs it to do. Amen. When we act our doing with the power that we have, things begin to come into manifestation. So we can have power and nothing be accomplished. Stephen was full of faith. How did he get full of faith? Well, what's the Word say? Faith comes by what? Hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Can't we say that Stephen was full of the Word of God? He's full of the Word. He was a man of the Word. And we know he's full of the Holy Ghost. So we can say this. Stephen was a man full of the Word and full of the Spirit. He was a Word and Spirit man. We're not the beginners of this thing. Some people have slipped away from what was begun. Amen. That's why wonders and miracles came about, because of being a Word and Spirit man. Now go with me to Ephesians chapter 6 and verse 10. Ephesians 6, 10. Paul is writing, and he says this. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. And then it goes on and lists other verses. But I want you to see this wording in verse 10. Be strong in the Lord. Well, people are saying, well, I'm trying to be strong. You're not being strong in you. Strong in Him. I said strong in Him. Well, what does it mean to be strong in the Lord? Well, how many of you know the Lord and His Word are one? If you're going to be strong in the Lord, you have to be strong in His Word because the Lord and the Word are one. So to be strong in the Lord means to be strong in the Word. And then it says, and be strong in the power of his might. What's the power of his might? The Holy Ghost. So we could say it this way. Be strong in the Word and be strong in the Holy Ghost, or be full of the Word and be full of the Holy Ghost. Now you can stand against the wiles of the devil. Many times people are trying to stand their ground on empty, and then they wonder why they're swayed. If you have trees, pots, potted plants, or potted trees, once they're. I mean, if they're large enough, once that pot is full, very difficult to move. But if that pot stays empty, any old wind can come along and blow it around. The safety is in fullness. The risk is in not being full. It's risky to live this life on less than full. I said there's risk to it. Why? Because winds can come and blow you around at their whim. What's the Bible talk about? Winds of doctrines? It doesn't even say wrong doctrines, just winds of doctrines that aren't to be emphasized, that aren't the message that God is bringing. And people get excited about a wind. And you know what happens to a wind? It just blows on through. And you don't want to go with it. You want to be anchored, full of the word, full of the Spirit, so that the whims that come up, not just winds, the whims that come up don't take you off course. Now go with me to Ephesians, chapter 5. In verse 15, I'm going to read first out of the King James translation, Ephesians 5, 15, It reads, see then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, redeeming the time because the days are evil. Wherefore be ye not unwise what the will of the Lord is. Notice this. What does the Bible call unwise? Not understanding what his will is for your life. That's unwise. Look at this, verse 18. And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess. You start playing around with things that are addictive, and it won't leave you where it found it, where it found you. It will carry you to excess, even if you didn't intend to go there, even if you thought you could handle it. The thing that's wrong for the believer to deal with things that have an addictive ability is because it costs Jesus everything to set you free. And it's wrong to willingly engage in things that take us again into bondage and make slaves out of us.
Pastor Dennis
Amen.
Nancy Dufresne
Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess. Look at this. But be filled with the Spirit. And we could say this, wherein there is no excess. There's no lid to how much. There's no ceiling to how much fullness of the Spirit your life can flow with. And as dad Hagin taught us that this phrase, really the original reads, be being filled, denoting an ongoing continual flow. It's not maintaining yesterday's fullness, it's not getting full yesterday and trying to hang on to that. It's a fresh infilling every day. That's what be being filled is. God said to me years ago, start every day in the Spirit, and then keep your heart turned toward me. All Day long. And then he said to me, he said, you would see someone who seemingly falls into sin, succumbs to sin. And he said, onlookers would see that situation and say, sin took them out. And he said, sin doesn't take my children out. Their failure to start their day with me took them out. And they were weakened. They weren't strengthened to stand their ground in the face of sin. It wasn't sin that took them out. It was not being full. Not being full. I said, it's not being full. You remember Gideon's army? What was it started with? 32,000. Is that right? 32,000. God said, you got too many. They're dealing with enemy armies that were much larger. And God starts whittling down. He says, anybody fearful, send them home. Why? Because you can't win with fear. I don't care what your numbers are. Anyone with fear is going to be a point of loss for them. So the first thing, the first criteria was, if you got fear, send them home. The next one was taken down to the water. See how they drink. Now you get this. How they drank, determined if they could keep going or not. How we drink is going to affect whether or not we can be taken further into some things or whether we get sent home, so to speak. I don't know about you. I want to fulfill all that God offers me. But we can't lay hold of it unless than full. So here in Ephesians, he says, be being filled. I'm going to read out of the amplified classic, verse 15. Look carefully then, how you walk. Live purposefully and worthily and accurately. Not as the unwise and witless, but as wise, sensible, intelligent people, making the very most of the time buying up each opportunity because the days are evil. Therefore, do not be vague and thoughtless and foolish, but understanding and firmly grasping what the will of the Lord is. And do not be drunk with wine, for that is debauchery. But ever be filled and stimulated with the Holy Spirit. God does not give his children suggestions. He gives us commands. We are under his command. Amen. We are in his army. We are soldiers. We are soldiers. Soldiers act on commands. So when he says, be being filled, that's not an option. That's not a suggestion. That's a command.
Pastor Debbie Simons
Why?
Nancy Dufresne
To move forward. To move forward. Now, Luke, chapter four. Luke, chapter four, verse one. And it says this. And Jesus. Luke, chapter 4, verse 1. And Jesus being full. Jesus being full. The Son of God, sent from heaven, born of virgin birth, needed fullness if he needed fullness to accomplish what he was born for. What do you think? What demand do you think that puts on us to accomplish what we are born for? And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost. Couldn't we say this? Full of power. Jesus, being full of the Holy Ghost, returned from Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness. I want you to follow along with me in this verse and let's drop a few words and read it this way. And Jesus, being full of the Holy Ghost, was led by the Spirit. And Jesus, being full of the Holy Ghost, was led by the Spirit. It's easier to know the leading when you're full. It's easier to know how he's directing you when you're full. Many times people are praying for leading. They're just praying, oh, God, I need clarity. I need to know what to do. God, fill up. Fill up in the fullness. Your answer and the clarity will overflow. Amen. Then you won't be living by trial and error. You won't be going down this road and realize, oh, that's the wrong road. Bump your head against a wall, back up, go another way. We don't have time to waste in this accelerated era. We have to live accurately as we're told in Ephesians. How are we going to live accurately? The only way is we have to be fulfilled so that we can recognize how he's leading us in the fullness. The leading is clear in the fullness. So many people are trying to pray, oh God, lead me. Oh God, lead me. And he's waiting for you to fill up. Get full of the Word, get full of the Spirit, and your answer will overflow in that place of fullness.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Now go down with me. Luke, chapter four. We're still there, but I want us to look at verse 13. It says, and when the devil had ended all the temptation, because Jesus was there for 40 days, 40 nights, being tempted all the while, he went into that season of temptation full. Right? Jesus being full, was led of the Spirit into the wilderness. Look at verse 13. And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season. And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee. Notice this. That season of temptation did not empty him out. It did not subtract. And him come out just weak and barely making it. He went in full and he came out full. That's the way every, every situation we face, we should face it full. We're not going in to see who wins. We're going in to demonstrate our mastery Jesus has made Satan our servant, our slave. We are his master, and we're to demonstrate mastery. And the way to demonstrate mastery is from a place of fullness. When you're empty, any old thing can fill you.
Pastor Debbie Simons
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Nancy Dufresne
Worry can get in. Doubt can get in. All kinds of things can get in. But when you're full, there's not room for anything else that's offered you. Praise the Lord. And So in verse 14, Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee. Look at this. And there went out a few fame of him through all the region round about now. Jesus went in full. He came out full. What do we know? He's a man of the Word. He was the Word made flesh. And he also was full. Word and spirit. I said word and spirit. And it says. And there went out a few. Through all the region round about. The fame of him was spread because all the world is drawn to a full man. Why do you think that rock stars draw such big crowds? They're full of something. They're full of rebellion. They're full of carnal things, full of natural things. And all the world is drawn to fullness, even the wrongfulness. But I tell you what, when we're full of the Word and the Spirit, there's going to be a demonstration of that power. And it will draw. It's not about the fame of the person. It's about the fame of the power. And what's worked with that power. That God will work it. Listen. God anoints men. The woman with the issue of blood was touching the mantle when she reached to touch the hem of his garment. She wasn't trying to touch the man. God won't honor us touching the man. We're touching what's on him. We're touching what's in him. He doesn't honor us just going after the man. But what we're carriers of is what the people need. It was the fame of what Jesus carried. Amen.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
It's by living full that there went a fame of what he carried and offered the world. You live full, you have an effect on this earth. Empty people don't change anything about the earth. They just get drawn into the flow of the world. But full people set their own flows. They don't step into the flows that are around them. Listen, it is our privilege to get to live full of the Holy Ghost.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Stand with me to your feet tonight. Father, we are so grateful. What you have made ours, we take it. How many of you know fullness is up to us. Our fullness is up to us. I said, our fullness is up to us. Where's Tony? Where's Tony? Okay.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Let's just raise your hand. Let's raise up our hands. Let's thank God. Let's worship him together. We worship you, Father. We're so grateful. We're so grateful to see the flow, the life that you offer us.
Pastor Terry
This.
Nancy Dufresne
New creature in Christ that we are. That you offer this new creature a flow. We take that flow, the word and the spirit. We thank you for it, Father. We glorify you. We magnify you. Just lift up your hands and worship him. Let's sing something, if you would.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Just go ahead without.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
We worship you, Father. Thank you.
Worship Leader
Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. We thank you, Lord. Oh, I just want to thank you, Lord. We thank you, Lord. We thank you, Lord. We thank you, you, Lord. I just want to thank you, Lord. We thank you, Lord. We thank you, lo. We thank you, Lord. I just want to thank you, Lord. We thank you, Lord. Lord. We thank you, Lord. We thank you, Lord. I just want to thank you, Lord. You've been so good. You've been so good. You've been so good. You've been so good. You've been so good. I just want to thank you.
Pastor Dennis
You, Lord.
Worship Leader
I just want to thank you. I just want to thank you, Lord. I just want to thank you, Lord.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
If you're here tonight, there's heart problems. Come up here and we'll minister to you. Any kind of heart condition, high blood pressure, any valves, something, anything to do with the heart, come up here and we'll minister to you. Praise the Lord. Congregation, will you join your faith with these people? Amen. It matters to us that they receive what they need. I said, it matters to us that they receive what they need. Praise. Praise the Lord.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
That healing power is in manifestation tonight. I said that healing power is in manifestation tonight.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father. We glorify you. And I know this about God. Some of you. He will. Something will be repaired. Sometimes he'll replace something. Amen. You may feel something working in your body, and there's angels that will bring spare body parts. Amen. Whatever you need, God will do for you. Amen. The power of God is present here, and it's going to be ministered, waiting for your faith to say I take it. Amen. All you have to do is receive it. You know how you receive it with words that come from your heart. I receive it. It's not a struggle. It's just a receiving. Amen.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Say this with me. Those of you that are up here, say, when hands are laid on me, the healing power of God will go into my body. It will drive out pain and symptoms, sickness and disease, and I shall be whole. Amen. Congregation, reach your hands out to these. Release your faith. Join your faith with theirs. Father, we thank you. We thank you for healing. There it goes in. There goes that anointing in you. Love that heart be whole. Say this with me. Say I receive that healing power. It's working in me right now.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
There it goes in. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Father.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
For her. Yeah.
Ms. Leanne
For you.
Nancy Dufresne
We thank you, Father, for wholeness. Every bit of that. Leave her be whole in Jesus name.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Everyone step up to this step for me. Would you just step a little closer? Yeah, that's perfect. Thank you. That heart be. Oh, there it goes. Love. That heart be whole in Jesus name. That heart be whole. There it goes in love.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
That heart be whole in Jesus name. That heart be part. Hold in. There it goes in love. Take it all. Take it all. Ah, there you go.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Oh, there. That heart be whole in Jesus name. I just want to thank.
Worship Leader
Thank you.
Nancy Dufresne
Let heart be whole. Ah, there goes love. Let heart be whole in Jesus name. We thank you, Father. Let heart be whole. Good. Just say thank you, Jesus, for healing right now. I receive it. I receive that anointing. There it goes in. There it went in. We thank you for it, Father. That heart be whole in Jesus name. There it goes in love. There it goes in.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Behold, in Jesus name. Behold from the top of your head, the soul of your feet.
Congregation/Chorus
In Jesus name.
Nancy Dufresne
We thank you for it. Be whole in Jesus name.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
You know he wants you whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We never have to talk him into doing what he longs to do. I said we never have to talk him into doing what he longs to do. He just longs for us to receive.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
That heart be whole. Hear that anointing goes in that heart. Be whole in Jesus name.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. We thank you, Father. If you'll hand me that microphone under my chair right there, Pastor Debbie.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Thank you, Brother Terry. Mize, Sister Renee, you got something by the word of knowledge about healing. Whatever you have in your heart, either one of you, either one of you, Hallelujah.
Pastor Terry
Healing is always children's bread.
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah. And if.
Pastor Terry
If God's going to do something in the earth, he wants to do it in the church and keep the body of Christ healthy and strong and not defeated and weak. And if you're not strong in your body, you can't take the power somewhere that it needs to go. And I'm telling you, if you have anything in your body tonight that is trying to stop the flow of the power of God through your life in some way where you can influence somebody for the gospel, don't you let that hangnail stop you from doing something for the kingdom of God. Don't pet that thing. Don't pet that rash. Don't pet that soreness. I'm telling you, the way the body wants to do is it wants to do its own thing and get weak, and it wants to get weaker every day. And then you start. When you sit down and you try to stand up, you go, you know, and you start making all these goofy noises, I call them aging noises, you know, and you just start doing things that are just ridiculous, that you wouldn't have done five years ago, and you start giving in to the weakness of the flesh. I'm telling you, stop it.
Nancy Dufresne
Come on, stop it.
Pastor Terry
Don't let the weakness of the flesh, even in the aging process, everybody says, well, I'm just getting old. Well, I'm talking about my body is aging, but I'm not getting old. Hello. I'm not getting old. And I'm not going to give in to that foolishness. I'm fighting back with everything that I have in me, not by pride, not because of something that has to do with who I am in the natural. I mean, Terry and I talk about this all the time. We're not getting older. We're getting better. We're getting stronger. We're going to do things by the power of God that we've never even expected. You know, Isaiah 64, verse 4. I think it's verse 3. It says, Lord, you did things we didn't even expect. And I'm just so grateful. Terri and I are expecting God to do things in us. Everybody say, in me, in me, God's going to do things in me.
Nancy Dufresne
God's going to do things in me.
Pastor Terry
In my body, in my soul, in my spirit that I didn't even expect.
Worship Leader
Yes.
Pastor Terry
Hallelujah.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
I found this out about God. He'll let you have everything you're okay with. And if you'll decide I'm not okay with it, he'll back you up. His power will back you up. I said his power will back you up.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Let's worship him. We thank you, Father. We thank you, Jesus. We thank you, Jesus.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
We glorify you. We magnify you. We give you thanks. You're such a wonderful healer. You're such a wonderful healer. Right here, right here. Right above the collarbone, right in this area, there's healing going on. Somebody. There was a growth in this area. That's being healed right now. That's being healed right now. Receive that. You say, Pastor Nancy, how do I receive it? Say, I receive it. Just with your words, you take. Amen.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
We thank you for it. Those of you who are watching that may be describing your need right there where you're at. Receive that healing power.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Praise the Lord. Pastor Dennis, come up here with words of knowledge about healing. God will give some to you. He has that for you, that flow for you.
Pastor Dennis
There's somebody here tonight, maybe more than one somebody, but you're having trouble with. I don't know what the diagnosis would be, but it just seems like you. Your hands shake a lot. You got a lot of shaking in your nerves. I guess it would be. Who is that?
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah.
Pastor Dennis
Praise the Lord. Could be on one or both hands.
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah.
Pastor Dennis
Jesus name.
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah.
Pastor Dennis
Thank you, Father. Father, we just thank you.
Worship Leader
Thank you.
Pastor Dennis
Thank you, Father. Thank you, Lord. Jesus is a healer. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Lord. Seem like there's somebody else you have. You've been diagnosed with some sort of issue. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Jesus. And I would even include arthritis, any sort of arthritic thing in your hands. That's you. Come. Hallelujah, Father, we thank you for your healing power. Thank you, Lord. Jesus name. Well, hallelujah. Praise those hands up. Jesus baby. Command all that to go now. In Jesus name. Be healed in the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. Be healed in the name of Jesus. Command that to go in the name of Jesus. Now start moving your hands. Start moving your hands. Thank you, Father. Jesus name every bit of that to go. What's happening with you? Praise God. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Lord. Hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. Just lift your hand and worship him. Lift your hands and bless him. Keep moving your hands. Jesus name. Jesus name. Be healed in Jesus name. Every bit of that go in the name of Jesus. Jesus name. Be healed in the name of Jesus and start moving your hands. Start moving your hands. Start doing something you couldn't do before. Jesus name, Be healed in the name of Jesus. Every bit of that to go now. Start moving your hands, Jesus name, I command that to stop Be healed in the name of Jesus. Now start moving your hands Jesus name Be healed the name of Jesus and we thank you for it and I rebuke fear in the name of Jesus. Looser every bit of that to go from you in the name of Jesus. We rebuke that spirit of fear Command you to go in the name of Jesus. Jesus name. Be healed in the name of Jesus. In Jesus name. Start moving your hands, Mom. In Jesus name Be healed in the name. There it is. In Jesus name. Start moving your hands, Mom. Start moving your hands. Praise the Lord. Thank you, Father. Jesus name, Be healed in the name of Jesus. In your hands. Start moving your hands Jesus name, Be healed in the name of Jesus. Command all that to go in the name of Jesus. Jesus name Be healed in the name of Jesus. Command all that to go in the name of Jesus. Just say I receive it in Jesus name. Start moving your hands Jesus name Be healed in the name of Jesus. We rebuke any arthritis in there in the name of Jesus. Command that to go now in Jesus name and for healing to come in the name of Jesus. Start moving your hands, Jesus name Be healed in your hands, in your body in the name of Jesus. Command all that to go now in the name of Jesus. Start moving your hands Jesus name Be healed in Jesus name. I rebuke arthritis Looser every bit of that to go in the name of Jesus. Every bit of that to leave in the name of Jesus. Be healed in your body in Jesus name. Command arthritis to go from you in Jesus name. Looser in the name of Jesus. Say I receive it in Jesus name. What's up with this? Okay. Oh, you're just not walking good. You got something wrong with your legs?
Ms. Leanne
Yes.
Pastor Dennis
What's wrong with your legs?
Ms. Leanne
It's called diabetic hemiatrophy.
Pastor Dennis
So is it connected? Diabetes, type 1 or 2? Type 2. Father, in the name of Jesus, we thank you that you're the healer. We rebuke this condition now. Jesus name, in the name of Jesus. Be healed, be healed, Be healed in your legs, be healed in your blood. In the name of Jesus. In Jesus name. We thank you Lord. In Jesus name. Now I want you to start taking a little step there. Start taking a little step don't hurt yourself. Just keep taking a step. Keep walking. Just walk all over the church.
Nancy Dufresne
Keep going.
Pastor Dennis
Jesus name. Jesus name, be healed in the name of. Amen. How we doing? You're great. Praise God. You're healed. Jesus name, be healed in your hands, in your body. I rebuke any arthritis. In the name of Jesus. I speak healing to your joints in the name of Jesus. And I thank you, Lord, right now in the name of Jesus, for your power, something about your inside. In the name of Jesus, be healed in your body, be healed in that stomach region. In the name of Jesus. We rebuke that and we thank you for your healing power moving upon him now supernaturally in Jesus name. And we thank you for it. Amen. Dad, how we doing with your hands? Good, Praise God.
Nancy Dufresne
Pastor Dennis, would you speak to those. Go back here and to that main camera and speak to those watching.
Pastor Dennis
Okay, Hallelujah. If you're watching by livestream right now, just lift your hands up. Father, we just thank you right now. Church, let's disagree. Jesus name. We take authority over any arthritic condition. We take authority over any sort of rickets or any sort of ticking or moving in the hands. We rebuke that in Jesus name. We speak healing over you right now. Be healed in the name of Jesus. May that healing, anointing, that healing power move on you right now in the name of Jesus. Now get up and start doing something you couldn't do before. Start giving action to what you've received. Just like Pastor Nancy said, give action to that power. In the name of Jesus. Amen.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Pastor Debbie Simons, come up here. Whatever God gives you to call out.
Pastor Debbie Simons
You know, we've stepped into a season of acceleration, and with acceleration, you know, it's like there's the open door and then there's the adversary. And if there's anyone that's having problems with the mind, you know, pressure in the mind, the enemy is trying to keep you from. From going into that door that God is so, so greatly opened for you.
Nancy Dufresne
There's Leanne.
Pastor Debbie Simons
So if there's anybody here that you've had excessive pressure in your mind, come up and let me. Let me lay hands on you.
Nancy Dufresne
Praise the Lord.
Pastor Debbie Simons
I rebuke in Jesus name.
Nancy Dufresne
I repeat. Thank you, Jesus.
Worship Leader
Hallelujah.
Pastor Debbie Simons
I rebuke that in Jesus name. I rebuke that in Jesus name.
Worship Leader
I rebuke that in Jesus.
Pastor Debbie Simons
I rebuke that in Jesus name. I rebuke that in Jesus name. I rebuke it in Jesus name.
Worship Leader
I re.
Nancy Dufresne
I rebuke it in Jesus name one more. Sam.
Worship Leader
Sa.
Nancy Dufresne
Come up here and speak to those watching.
Pastor Debbie Simons
For those of you that are watching by livestream, one thing that we must understand is the enemy doesn't want us going forward. And so right now, I take authority over the enemy, endeavoring to stop you through that constant pressure in the mind. And I rebuke that off of you in Jesus name. Now receive it. Amen.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Help her up. Help her. Ms. Leanne, I want to hear something good about you, sister. This little gal was out of a denominational church. So precious. She was in one of my meetings. And tell them about your car wreck, what kind of condition you were in.
Ms. Leanne
After my car wreck, Tell them about it. Okay. I was driving to a friend's funeral. I had left after work, and I was going toward Waco on a little two lane road, and. And it was a full moon, and it was. It was late because I left after work and I came around a curve and there was a deer in the road, and I tried to avoid it. That was a poor choice. And the car flipped over four times. It went about 30ft in the air. There were marks on the trees. And then it landed. And after I got out, when I finally. When everything. Everything happened, I had. My back was all twisted and I had sciatica, and my hips were in the wrong place, and so it wasn't very good. I was walking with a cane, and I was always in pain. And that friend was up here with the cane. She was my massive therapist at the time, so she can tell you my back was not in the right place because she was working on it. And so Pastor Nancy came to Hobbs to choose life. Hey, guys. And Hi, guys. And I was getting ready to leave because my back was really hurting.
Nancy Dufresne
You were in so much pain, you couldn't sit there. And it was at the first of the service.
Pastor Debbie Simons
Yeah, it was.
Ms. Leanne
And you had caught.
Nancy Dufresne
You weren't.
Ms. Leanne
You were calling for people and you were calling and you were calling.
Nancy Dufresne
Well, I didn't even preach. I got up and I said, there's someone here in pain. And you came out.
Ms. Leanne
I came walking out.
Nancy Dufresne
You look like you were suffering.
Ms. Leanne
I was, because I was like, literally when you. I just was like walking kind of down to the front. Not as fast as I came down this time because it hurt. And so I came down to the front. And so Pastor Nancy, she laid hands on me and I fell out, and I hadn't ever really Fallen out. I hadn't been going to shoes life for very long at that time, and so I hadn't ever really fallen out. I'd seen other people do it, and I was just laying there, and you could kind of feel everything going back in the right place, you know. And so I laid there for a while, and Pastor Nancy kept doing her business. And then I got back up and started to walk away, and she's on the way. Come here. And she said, can you do something you haven't done before? So I took this leg. I'm not gonna do it on this platform because I got on. See, I wear real shoes now because I don't have to have supports in them anymore. And so I could, like, pull my leg up, you know, and do this kind. Yeah, like this. Like this kind of thing that I couldn't do before.
Worship Leader
Yeah.
Pastor Debbie Simons
And.
Pastor Terry
Yeah.
Ms. Leanne
And I worked really hard to read all the books, and I worked really hard to keep my physical healing. And Pastor Steve and Kathy can attest to this. And so I move around now, and I've lost, like, about 60 or 70 pounds.
Nancy Dufresne
And.
Ms. Leanne
Yeah. And Pastor Kathy bought me this fabulous outfit so that I could look normal in public instead of what I was wearing. And I don't have to.
Worship Leader
About worry.
Ms. Leanne
And I can, like, you know, I get pettic. I look like a real person. It's really cool. So I brought my. So I knew that you. I heard it was put on my heart. At the end of the July, we had a revival. And I was like, I wonder what Pastor Nancy's doing. I didn't know you were coming to choose life at that time. So I said, oh, she's in Georgetown. Well, I went to school in Georgetown. I graduated from Southwestern. And so I said, I want to drive over. And my friend Aaron, she's the one with the cane she lives in. And I was like, she really needs a healing because. Oh, my gosh. So. So I came over here. I left Hobbs for the first time in a year and a half, and I drove over here from Hobbs, New Mexico, and I brought Erin so she would get her healing. But then I also want to get my mind in the right place and have a sound, disciplined mind, like your book says, which I read last month. And I have the mind of Christ, and the mind of Christ is busy.
Nancy Dufresne
We have video footage of when that happened in that church in Hobbs, New Mexico. And it is astounding to see what the power of God did for her. We rejoice with you, Ms. Lee. We love you.
Worship Leader
Thank you.
Pastor Terry
For helping.
Nancy Dufresne
You're welcome. God bless you. How could you not love her? So grateful. And her pastor, every once in a while will send me videos of her worshiping God down in the front and dancing all around and said, there's a miracle lady dancing all around the front. Amen. Hallelujah, Jesus, thank you. Thank you so much. So much. We are so appreciative of that healing power. Jesus, you're such a wonderful healer. We give you glory and honor and thanks. It's so good to be healed. It's so good to be healed. It's so good to be healed. It's so good to be healed.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Stephen, come up here. Call out. Call out what's on your heart.
Stephen
People with joint problems, your knees. I've seen a lot of people, and it's hard for them to get up in the morning for their joints. If that's you, come. Come up.
Nancy Dufresne
Yeah. Praise the Lord.
Stephen
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Hallelujah.
Stephen
Thank you, Jesus.
Nancy Dufresne
Praise the Lord.
Pastor Dennis
Hallelujah.
Worship Leader
Hallelujah.
Stephen
Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. In the name of Jesus, I command that power, that anointing to go into your body and healing. In the name of Jesus. Father, I thank you. We declare that you are healed. In the name of Jesus, we command your body to come in line with the word of God. And I say that you are healed in Jesus name, ma'. Am. In the name of Jesus, we take that anointing, put it in your body, and from this night forward, you are healed. In Jesus name, Father, I thank you for the power of God as working in her body. In the name of Jesus, we command those joints to come in line with the word of God and you are healed. In Jesus name, we thank you, Father, for the power of God is going into him. And I command your joints to come in line with the word of God. We thank you, Father, that your joints are coming into the. Into the line with the word of God. I command your joints to be restored and healed. In Jesus name. In the name of Jesus, I command your joints to be whole and put back to the way they used to be. No more pain. In the name of Jesus. Pastor Debbie, in the name of Jesus, I command your joints to be whole. In the name of Jesus that the power of God is going through your joints. And from tonight you're healed. In Jesus name, Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank you for the power of God is working in your body. And from tonight I command your joints to straighten up and to come in line with the word of God. Hallelujah. Thank you, Father. Thank you, Jesus, that your joints are coming into the line with the word of God. We command your joints to be restored in Jesus name. We thank you, Father, in the name of Jesus. Your joints are coming back into line with the word of God. And we command them to be restored in Jesus name. Father, I thank you. We command those joints to be restored, restored in Jesus name. Hallelujah. In the name of Jesus, your joints are coming back into line with the word of God. I command your joints to be restored in Jesus name. In the name of Jesus. I command your joints to be restored and whole in the name of Jesus. Father, I thank you for the anointing. We put the anointing into her. In the name of Jesus. We command those joints to straighten up in the name of Jesus.
Pastor Debbie Simons
Jesus.
Stephen
I command your joints to be restored in Jesus name. And from this night forward, every single one of you that I laid hands on, you're healed. In the name of Jesus. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Hallelujah.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Stephen
For those watching and anybody watching, in the name of Jesus, if you can't get up out of bed without hurt or do anything, that's the devil trying to kill you slow, trying to rob you of life. And tonight I declare in Jesus name that you are healed in Jesus mighty name, Amen.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Those of you that are watching, say, I receive it. I receive it. I receive it. Those of you that have been ministered to, move around, do something you couldn't do. Has she been ministered to? Okay.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Pastor Amy, what do you have in your heart to call out? Come up here. Love anyone who's been diagnosed with a sleep disorder. Now, Pastor Debbie just prayed for somebody who was having trouble with the mind. If you came up for that, and that's causing you to not sleep well, you've already been healed, so you're already taken care of. But if you've been diagnosed with a sleep disorder, come on down.
Worship Leader
Hallelujah. Glory, glory, glory, glory, glory. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Hallelujah. Put your hands out for me. Complete.
Worship Leader
Healed.
Nancy Dufresne
Hold the mic for her. Up to her mouth. Healed. Healed. Complete healing. In Jesus name.
Pastor Debbie Simons
Healed. Healed.
Nancy Dufresne
Yes, He heals. Healed.
Ms. Leanne
Jesus. Devil, you take your hands off her.
Nancy Dufresne
In Jesus name. It's easy. It's easy. Concentrate on my saving praise prayers.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Minister to those watching.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Father. In the name Jesus, we thank you for your healing power. Anyone out there who has a sleep disorder, we command you, your body to straighten up and be healed. Be normal and sweet. Sweet sleep in Jesus name. Amen.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Jesus, we do glorify you and we say thank you. We say thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We magnify you.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
How many of you say, it's so good to be healed. It's so good to be healed.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
As you're driving home. It's so good to be healed. As you're getting ready for bed. It's so good to be healed when you wake up in the morning. It's so good to be healed. Amen. You say? Pastor Nancy I don't feel any different. That's why you say it. Amen. It's so good to be healed.
Congregation/Chorus
Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Nancy Dufresne
Well, you don't want to miss in the morning, Brother Joel. Pastor Amy Siegel, a great blessing, and that's at 10am but turn to somebody before you're dismissed tonight and say, Jesus is such a wonderful healer and you can be dismissed. God bless you. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings. Share your testimony, become a partner or visit our online store. This program has been made possible by the friends and partners of dufresne Ministries.
Episode: Word & Spirit Men | Nancy Dufresne | Georgetown, TX | Sunday PM | Miracle Crusade 2022
Date: September 7, 2022
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Location: Georgetown, TX
This dynamic episode centers on the dual importance of being "Word and Spirit" people—anchored in scripture and filled with the Holy Spirit—within the life of believers and the local church. Pastor Nancy Dufresne teaches on the power and necessity of unity, fullness, and divine order, connecting scriptural examples to practical ministry and daily Christian living. The latter half transitions into a miraculous healing service, featuring multiple ministers leading in prayer, impartation, and personal testimony.
“We pride ourselves on being faith people, and that's a good thing…but we have to remember we're also spirit people.” (Nancy Dufresne, 00:28)
"The power of God requires something to be mixed with it for it to come into manifestation. It's called faith." (Nancy Dufresne, 14:56)
"You can't add worry...fear...strife to the power of God and get miracles." (16:21)
"The safety is in fullness. The risk is in not being full." (Nancy Dufresne, 21:12)
"Start every day in the Spirit, and then keep your heart turned toward me all day long." (22:56)
"It's easier to know the leading when you're full." (Nancy Dufresne, 26:38)
"When you're empty, any old thing can fill you… But when you're full, there's not room for anything else that's offered to you." (29:05-29:33)
"Empty people don't change anything about the earth… But full people set their own flows." (31:17)
On Unity & Strife
“Never fall into the strategy of strife through racial issues. That’s a strategy to distract the church from the greatness of the plan that we're hooked up to.” (06:16)
On Leadership
“We’re not the cleanup crew in the body of Christ… The Holy Ghost kept us in front of situations.” (10:32)
On Filling and Living Full
“The thing that’s wrong for the believer to deal with things that have an addictive ability is because it costs Jesus everything to set you free.” (20:48)
Miraculous Power and Faith
“Power is what we have, but faith is what we do.” (15:44)
On Receiving Healing
“The power of God is present here... waiting for your faith to say I take it. Amen. All you have to do is receive it. You know how you receive it? With words that come from your heart: I receive it.” (37:23)
| Segment | Description | Timestamp | |-------------|-----------------|--------------| | Legacy & Theme Introduction | Nancy sets the "Word & Spirit" stage, referencing Dad Hagin | 00:00-02:50 | | Acts 6 – Unity, Strife, and Church Order | Discussion of strife as an enemy to growth, Biblical order | 03:00-13:00 | | The Stephen Principle | Why faith + power produce miracles; everyday analogies | 13:00-17:20 | | Ephesians: Be Full Continuously | On being strong in the Lord, "be being filled" teaching | 18:00-24:30 | | The Example of Jesus’ Fullness | Fullness in Jesus’ temptation, avoiding spiritual emptiness | 25:00-31:00 | | Fullness Draws People | The world seeks fullness; Christians must be full of God | 31:10-33:00 | | Worship & Thanksgiving | Congregational worship and gratitude for fullness | 33:10-36:00 | | Healing Ministry (Heart Conditions) | Nancy invites those with heart issues, leads in corporate faith | 36:17-40:59 | | Healing Ministry (Hands, Legs, Joints) | Pastor Dennis and others minister to specific conditions | 41:45-65:13 | | Personal Testimony (Ms. Leanne) | Testimony of supernatural healing after car accident | 56:48-61:06 | | Additional Words of Knowledge & Healing | Ministry for joints, sleep disorders, pressure in the mind | 62:01-68:19 | | Closing Reflections | Final thanksgiving, declaration of healing | 68:19-end |
Instructional Declarations
Specific Healings Called Out
Empowering the Congregation
On Testimony and the Power of Words
If you missed the episode, you missed powerful teachings on living “full” in the Word and Spirit, strategic insight into church unity and divine leadership, and a powerful healing ministry segment. Nancy Dufresne and team not only instruct on the importance of fullness but demonstrate it—calling out and ministering miracles in real time and encouraging every believer to live “Word and Spirit” in daily practice.