Podcast Summary

Dufresne Ministries Podcast
Episode: Worship, Part One | Nancy Dufresne | Prayer Conference 2019 | World Harvest Church, Murrieta, CA
Speaker: Pastor Nancy Dufresne
Date: April 24, 2019

Overview

In this rich and stirring episode, Pastor Nancy Dufresne delves into the foundational and life-altering role of worship in the believer’s life. Speaking at the 2019 Prayer Conference, she unpacks the importance of worship, stewardship of spiritual messages, and the simplicity yet power of cultivating a lifestyle of worship — not just as a religious act, but as a conduit for God’s power, presence, and breakthrough in every area of life. Drawing from Scripture, personal stories, and the teachings of Norvel Hayes and Dad Hagin, Nancy makes the case that worship is not only an essential spiritual discipline, but also the linchpin for victory, breakthrough, and sustained faith.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Power and Reach of Worship

• Biblical Example: The Syrophoenician Woman
  • Nancy recounts the story of the Syrophoenician woman (Matthew 15) to demonstrate the miraculous reach of worship (04:00–09:30):

    “While you’re here worshiping him, expect him to be doing something somewhere else for you, setting things right.” — Nancy Dufresne (09:09)

  • Worship in one location can result in breakthrough and divine intervention in another — don’t limit God by physical boundaries.
  • The woman’s heart-led worship, as opposed to ritual or borrowed religious language, unlocked her miracle.

Honoring Spiritual Legacy and Stewarding Messages

• Nancy details her relationship with Norvel Hayes and his impact, emphasizing the importance of honoring spiritual fathers, especially in their latter years (11:40–19:00):

  “It matters how you treat a man of God at the end of his life. …If Elisha would have dismissed Elijah when he was no longer at the peak, he would never have ended up with a double portion anointing.” — Nancy Dufresne (17:06)

• God actively looks for those willing to steward spiritual light and revelation when generation shifts occur (19:00–23:30).
• Stewarding spiritual messages means more than repeating sermons — it’s about carrying the revelation and anchoring it in life and ministry.

The Message from Norvel Hayes: Worship as the Key

• Citing Norvel Hayes’ classic message, Nancy highlights the divine instruction:

  “My children basically love me, but they live in poverty and sickness and defeat… because they don’t worship me enough.” — God, as recounted by Norvel Hayes (27:19)

• The issue is not a lack of love for God, but falling short of the depth and duration of worship that brings God’s anointing to break yokes and change lives (27:19–31:00).
• Faith, confession, and prayer for the sick are vital, but do not substitute for worship; worship sets the unique atmosphere for the anointing (31:30).

Practical Steps to Victory: Worship at the Center

Nancy outlines a “victory protocol” (34:20–40:00):

1. Answer the Situation/Talk to the Issue
2. Command the Enemy to Leave
3. Worship God
   • Real victory is not in the length of rebuke but in the depth and consistency of worship:

     “The bulk of your victory is wrapped up in your worship. And if you’re going to quit worshiping, you’re going to quit winning.” — Nancy Dufresne (36:19)

• Worship creates an atmosphere around your life that acts as a barricade against the devil returning or circumstances worsening.

Worship: The Missing Piece in Prayer

• Drawing from the teachings of Dad Hagin, Nancy reminds listeners that the prayer of praise and worship is the bookend to every other prayer (41:30–43:30).
  • Without worship, other forms of prayer are limited in effectiveness.

True Worship: Spirit and Truth

• Highlighting Jesus’ words to the Samaritan woman (John 4:23–24), Nancy draws a distinction (44:14-50:00):

  “If your spirit isn’t involved, it’s not true worship. If your mind is involved, no, that’s not true worship. Yet your spirit has to at some point get engaged. …You mean it.” — Nancy Dufresne (47:10)

  • True worship is not just physical posture or emotion; it is heart-engaged and truth-based.
• The more of God’s Word you carry, the richer your worship expression — remembrance and gratitude fuel worship.

Worship as a Lifestyle

• Psalm 34 and Psalm 111—Worship is a choice of the will, executed “at all times,” not just in good times (59:23–65:00).
  • Worship is your “spiritual vacation” — an ongoing safe place, not just an occasional retreat.

The Importance of Remembrance in Worship

• Recall and rehearse God’s past faithfulness — recounting specifics partners with heaven and invites repetition (79:25).

  “What you notice, God repeats. And if you don’t care to notice it, he won’t care to repeat it.” — Nancy Dufresne (79:25)

Worship Changes the Atmosphere and Repels the Enemy

• Your mouth has an assignment: “His praise shall continually be in my mouth.” (Psalm 34) (70:00–74:00)
• Worship, respect, and gratitude are prerequisites for spiritual breakthrough:

  “Hebrews 13:15 — Without respect and gratitude, you don’t get any of this.” — Nancy Dufresne (76:26)

The Simplicity of the Answer

• The answer to complicated problems is not complex — worship untangles the most hopeless situations (77:00–82:00).
• The “praise cure” — sustained, even monotonous worship — can break through mental oppression and confusion (80:00–82:00).
• Get your faith moving through worship; keep your eyes on Jesus, not the problem (88:45).

  “Worship keeps your eyes on the one worth seeing.” — Nancy Dufresne (88:53)

A Call to Become True Worshipers

• God is seeking those who know how to worship not only when things are good but especially when under pressure or attacked (89:00+).
• Make a habit of worship as a first response — “His praise shall continually be in my mouth.” (89:59)
• Worship in practical terms: put the cause of anxiety before you (e.g. checkbook, medical report) and worship God openly in front of it, letting your problem see that it’s not your focus (88:26).

  “Let that problem know you’re not it. You're not the center. You're not my help. …You’re not my future.” — Nancy Dufresne (90:05)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It doesn’t take long to decide you’re gonna be right. …Just go on the ride, right?” — Nancy Dufresne (08:36)
• “Faith, confession, and praying for the sick are no substitute for worship. They have their place… but you need to worship me more.” — God to Norvel Hayes (30:58)
• “If you’re going to quit worshiping, you’re going to quit winning. Worship keeps the atmosphere set for God’s movement.” — Nancy Dufresne (36:19)
• “Without respect and gratitude, you don’t get any of this.” — Nancy Dufresne on Hebrews 13:15 and her mother’s lessons (76:26)
• “Worship keeps your eyes on the one worth seeing.” — Nancy Dufresne (88:53)
• “Worshiping God turns everything easy. It makes everything simple. It’s the mental arena that complicates.” — Nancy Dufresne (81:52)
• “The praise cure... For seven days solid... At the end of seven days, it was like… a coin dropping into the vending machine… and when that happened, the word of the Lord came to me.” — Nancy Dufresne (80:10)
• “You prayed with your eyes on the dying woman. I prayed with my eyes on Jesus.” — Smith Wigglesworth story (88:48)
• “Praise the Lord. The devil always trying to get himself in your business. If he’s got your attention, he’s in your business. Get your attention off him.” — Nancy Dufresne (90:37)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:00] – The Syrophoenician woman: worship’s reach and power
• [11:40] – Honoring Norvel Hayes and the importance of stewarding spiritual messages
• [19:00] – God’s concern for lost revelation; stewarding “the light”
• [27:19] – Norvel Hayes: “My children basically love me… but don’t worship me enough.”
• [33:30] – Steps to overcoming tests: Answer, cast out, worship
• [41:30] – The prayer of praise and worship — essential for all other prayer
• [44:14] – True worship: spirit vs. mental/emotional worship
• [59:23] – Psalm 34: “I will bless the Lord at all times” — worship as a lifestyle
• [70:00] – Constant praise; worship as a barricade
• [76:26] – Respect and gratitude: Hebrews 13:15, family stories
• [79:25] – “What you notice, God repeats.” — the power of remembrance
• [80:00] – The “praise cure” and deliverance from mental torment
• [88:26] – Worshiping in front of your problem; Smith Wigglesworth anecdote
• [89:59] – Becoming a true worshiper: habit, heart, and continual focus

Conclusion

Impact & Takeaway:
This episode is a clarion call to recognize that worship is not optional or supplemental; it is foundational. Through practical teaching, biblical examples, spiritual legacy, and personal testimony, Nancy Dufresne impresses the listener to:

• Honor and steward the messages God entrusts
• Make worship the first and lasting response to every situation
• Keep praise continually on their lips to set the atmosphere for God’s power
• Remember and rehearse God’s faithfulness — what you honor and notice, God will repeat
• Be wholehearted — it is the depth and consistency of worship, not performance, that brings breakthrough
• Live as a true worshiper, with spirit and truth, regardless of circumstances

For Listeners: Apply this by making worship a lifestyle, especially under pressure — let God’s presence and power meet you there.