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You Know The Holy Ghost | Leigh Ann Soesbee | Prayer Conference 2025 | Wednesday PM
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Hi, I'm Nancy Dufresne. Welcome to our podcast channel. We know you'll be blessed by today's message.
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So good to see everybody. See a lot of familiar faces. Yay. I can't say how much an honor it is to be here, and I'm thankful for the favor of God from Pastor Nancy. I have loved getting to know her and I kind of tear into her as much as I possibly can, if you know what I mean, and make fun of her as much as I can because you guys just adore her so much that I just like to set the count straight. Yes, I have to set it straight. But the truth of the matter is she is pretty dash on awesome and I can't say enough about her. She has opened her arms to. To me and my husband and I've had such wonderful times of fellowship with her and just poured into me and I can't thank you enough. And I could bring you a tear right now, but I'm not going to. I'm going to hold it back. But really mean a. A lot to us and thank you. I believe she means a lot to the whole body of Christ. Amen. I believe that she is a voice in this day. And I'm so thankful for this ministry, for her family and the gifts that each one of them hold. And it's just a blessing to be around a family that is so much like the family that many of us have come from and which. It's that spirit of faith, the spirit of power and glory that Brother Hagin has placed in us and put in us through all the teachings, through all the Holy Ghost meetings, through all the winter Bible seminars and camp meetings. Thank God. Amen. Thank God. And she's continuing to carry it, as well as all of us and many others all over the planet. We're running, we're teaching this word of faith. We're fulfilling the call, the plan of God and gonna do what he's called us to do. Am how many of you know God's got plans? He's got plans. He's the master planner. Amen. He knows how to plan things out and make everything come together. And that just thrills me to know that I don't have to worry about anything. All I've gotta do is trust him. All I gotta do is rely upon him, know that he's gonna cause it all to come to pass. Glory to God. All I've gotta do is just step out like Abraham did. Abraham didn't know where to God just said go. And he Stepped out and look at Abraham. Come on. Hallelujah. How many of you have stepped out and didn't know what in the world but God? Amen. He always shows up. He always shows up. Glory to God. Hallelujah. I've got so many things stirring in my heart that, that I was like, father, I don't even begin to know where to start this service. But I'm gonna tell you at the beginning, as I did Sunday morning here. Don't try to receive me like Pastor Nancy. No, she's amazing, is she not? I think I've tooted her horn enough. But I'll just let you know that she is a lot older than me. Uh huh. Don't you cut me. Don't you cut. Yep, she is.
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But.
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She'S a tremendous ministry gift at the body of Christ and I learned so much from her. I mean, two years ago I started really listening to her a lot. I mean she was my morning makeup ritual. I'd be putting my makeup on and just getting fed like crazy. And then like she said, I think it, it was either today or yesterday or something about how that, you know, you listen to a tape and you just keep listening to it over and over and over again. Well, I would do that and it would be like, oh my goodness, I hope I'm not driving my husband nuts though, because I'm listening to it so many times. How many of you have done that? You know, maybe you're stuck on one right now. You know, I get stuck on them and I just started feeding and feeding and feeding so much. And because of the season that my husband and I are in and launching the church, I can't tell you how much it fed me. I mean it was just like, woo, wow. God, I like this woman. And now I had opportunity, of course, you know, cause I traveled in the rama singers in 2003, was here with brother Hagin and the crusade team and had the joy of being here in that meeting and loved it and always loved Dr. Ed and had opportunity to talk to him when we were on the crusade teams. But I never had the opportunity to really get to know his pretty wife. And so listening to her over these last couple of years, it was just like my, my, my. And so then mom, Pat, Pat Harrison is my spiritual mom. And she was coming out to speak here last fall, this past fall. And I told mom, I said, you know what, I'm coming, I said, I'm going to come and I'm just going to drink in, I'm going to receive and I'm going to help you do whatever you need help with. And so I came thinking, I'm going to add my supply from my seat. That didn't work. She started calling on me and I was like, oh my goodness. But then when I stepped up and began to say some things, the spirit of God came upon me and I saw things, some things that I didn't speak out because it wasn't supposed to be spoken out, but I saw some things. And you know, one thing that I truly believe is that the mandate that is upon this ministry and upon her is so vital for the hour that we're living in. And I completely believe in it. Don't you? That's why you're here, right? And I know myself, it's almost, you know, I'm like Paul in fear and trembling to come up and to speak and have all your eyes on me. Because I'm just like, let's turn our eyes back on her and hear what God's saying to her, you know, But I gotta obey Mama. Cause you know, she's a lot older than me and you know, and so I've got to.
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I'm playing.
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Please believe me, she will crucify me later. She might look like she's sweet as can be, but she will crucify me if I keep going. Which I'm all right, I got a backbone. But I believe that this mandate upon this place is so important for the hour that we're in and we don't need to walk away from it. Amen. Well, here we go. For there are ministry gifts coming together in this last day that are going to hold hands together and they're going to operate in March in my power, in my victory, in every way. For it's time for the harvest to be reaped. But it's coming together by you and me walking together with the King of kings. So what is this hour that we're stepping into that we've not stepped in in years ago? It's called the very last day. The very last day of this harvest reaping hour. And it's time for us to celebrate. Step up and begin to run and go. For there are many ministry gifts that are supposed to be locking arms in this last day. So be careful. Be careful. I hear the Spirit say, be careful to not get offended, to not get weary and think. But what about me? Stay in your God ordained place. Because in the last days, it's not about just one ministry. It's about us all working together as one. Ha ha ha. Ha. The age that we're in. The age that we're in. Ha ha ha ha. My. I knew that when I stepped up that I was going to step in, too. Something here, huh? Are you guys okay if we just. Yeah. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Well, hello. Hallelujah. Prisugal doors, see, protested. Did you hear that? For prison doors are open wide. Prison doors are open wide. But it's imperative that prophets get in their rightful place to speak and declare my plan at this time for my office. Gifts must rise up, live in me. Yeah, Father, I hear that. It's imperative that we listen to what the spirit of God is speaking on the inside of us, that we hear what he's saying. What is he saying? What is he speaking? What is he doing? You know, last night, I don't know about you, but, man, it just blessed me in him, in Christ, you know, there on campus at Rhema for many years in healing school and prayer school, that's what I was over for 15 years and 10 years I worked with Jim Hockaday there. And so far, I was there a long time. But when we begin to get ahold of who we were in Christ is when people started getting healed. And when she was sharing that last night on the inside, I was jumping. I was jumping because not only do you get healed when you know who you are in Christ, you'll stand in your rightful place in God, and you will pray from a place of righteousness, even when you're in the spirit, when you're praying in an unknown tongue. See, for years, I'll never forget, I was sitting there at my desk. I was, at this particular time was the prayer coordinator only. And I was sitting at my desk, and I had been praying for some time about quite a few different things that needed to be prayed out on the campus and the ministry and stuff. And I don't know about you, but I've gotten frustrated in prayer. I've gotten frustrated because I feel like I'm not getting through. And at this particular time now, this is probably maybe the late 90s, I'm sitting there at my desk, and I'm just like, ugh, am I ever gonna get this thing prayed through? And I just was hitting up against a brick wall. Felt like I was just running up against a brick wall. Have you ever felt that way praying by yourself? And you just get frustrated. And so as I was doing that, all of a sudden the spirit of God said, why don't you act like you're on the other side of the wall? And I was like, what? What do you mean by that? He said, act like you're already there. I go, huh? And so I thought, well, how would I do that? Well, okay, I would be a little bit happier, I'll tell you that. And so I just begin to. I changed my tone, I even changed my dialect as I was praying in the spirit. I sounded like I was on the victory side when five seconds before, I was like, whoa, are you with me? And so I just was like I was praying and then now I'm acting like I'm there. Now, did I feel like I was there? No, I didn't feel like I was over on the other side. Are you with me? But I began to act and speak like I was. And so the next thing I did was. Guess what happened? I was there. I was on the other side. All of a sudden I was no longer praying from a place of, am I ever gonna get past this brick wall? But now I'm on the other side of the wall. And I prayed through the things that need to be prayed through so quickly that I was shouting. I jumped up out of my seat, ran down the hallway, knocked on Jim's office door. I said, you are not gonna believe what I just did. He goes, what'd you do? I said, you know all those things I told you that I've been praying about and walking through, blah, blah. He goes, yeah. I said, the spirit of God said to me, start acting like you're overall already there in the spirit that you're seeing. He goes, are you kidding? I go, I stepped over so fast, that was less than five minutes. I'd prayed through all of it. I go, I got it. He goes, get in here. Sit down and help me pray. And before you knew it, we were going to poo. We jumped right over into it so fast about things because we learned something. You can use your faith in the realm of the spirit in prayer. God never meant for us not to understand the things of the spirit. It's supposed to be easy. I'm a spirit. Aren't you a spirit? That's what. Pastor Noel was even talking about something this morning. I am a spirit. I live in a body. I possess a soul. Brother Hagin used to teach it. And then we found out that Paul talked about it that way in 1st Thessalonians 5:23. He said, I pray God my whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord. He broke us down into a three part being. I don't think it's strange that Paul said spirit first. I believe it's because we need to know who we are. I am a spirit spirit. And as a spirit operating in the realm of God is easy for me. When I begin to walk and begin to get revelation of how easy it is to be a spirit, I begin to grow. I'll never forget it. I always tell this story. So if you've heard, some of you that have ever heard me, just bear with me. But I'll never forget was in the late 90s. I'm sitting there in prayer school. I just led the praise and worship. And I'm sitting on the right side of the auditorium. Jim is up reading, and he's reading John, chapter 14. I thought, Dear God, is he gonna read the whole chapter today? I'm real sweet, you know, I'm thinking, is he gonna read the whole thing? And he pretty much did. But he got to verse 16 and 17. When he got to 17, it says, the spirit of truth, Jesus is talking. He said, the spirit of truth the world doesn't see or know, but you know him because he's going to live and dwell on the inside of you. And when. When I read that, I'm sitting there and, you know, at that time, I'd been in the ministry, you know, for quite a few years. I think I'd started traveling, you know, maybe about five years about then. I can't remember the. I'm not like Brother Hagin that can remember all that stuff, but it had been a few years, I'd been traveling already. And I looked at that verse and I was like, I don't feel like I know you now. Again, Jim's up reading, but I'm having a conversation with God. And I said, I don't feel like I know you if I know you so well. If I know you so well, why don't I see the glory cloud when it comes in the room? Now, when I was a student, Brother Hagin would do healing school all the time. I can't tell you. Debbie, you remember that Brother Hagin doing healing school. I can't tell you how many times Brother Hagin would go, well, the glory's coming in the room. He said, it's so thick, I can't see the sound guys back there. Well, I was a student sitting right behind Mom Hagin on the second row all the time as a volunteer. And I remember turning around, 18 years old, looking, trying to see the glory, just trying. And then he'd go on and he'd say, wow, now the glory is so thick. In here. I can't see half of you out there. Are you guys still out there? And then he'd go on, well, now I can't see any of you out there. He said, whoa, it's getting so thick in here. He goes, I can't even see. And he put his hand in front of his face. He said, it's so thick in here, I can't even see my hand in front of my face. And I remember sitting over there thinking, dear God, I can see your head, your hands, your face and everything. And I'd just be so aggravated. And then he'd say, if you need to receive anything from God, reach up and receive it. And Keith would start singing the Glory is he? And I'd be like, I don't feel it, I don't sense it and I know I don't see it. You know, I'm an 18 year old Pentecostal girl that's first year rhema student. And I just don't, you know, just aggravated now it's years later, you know, that's 84, 84, 85. And now, you know, this is the 90s and I'm sitting there, huh. I don't feel like I know you. If I know you so well, why don't I see the glory cloud when it comes in the room? So I'm aggravated. If I know you so well, why have I made mistakes in my life? Cause if you know somebody, you know them, right? If I know you so well, why do I have to wait for the pastor to say, well, the healing anointing is here. Why can't I know before them? Why do I have to wait for them to always say something and then I can go, mm, mm, yeah, I think maybe, you know, I just, you know, I would just get aggravated. I wanna be spiritual. And so this particular day in prayer school, I'm sitting there and Jim keeps reading the whole chapter, but I'm stuck. The spirit of truth the world doesn't see or know, but you know, Jesus is saying, I know him, but I don't feel like I know you. And so I had told God all of this sitting there, I don't feel like I know you say, well, why don't I see the glory cloud? Why have I made mistakes in my life? Why don't I know when the healing present, the healing anointing is present, I don't feel like I know you. And then all of a sudden on the inside I heard him say, you are calling me a liar. Now what's really goofy Is I'm listening to him talk to me the whole time. I didn't get that till way later, you know, da, da, da, da da. How goofy can we be? And so, you know, some people would have repented. Not Theresa and me. Right, Theresa Teresa Watts and I used to pray together all the time. Our personalities are a little similar. We'd go right back into it again. And I did. And I told the father, I don't feel like I know you well if I know you so well. I went through the whole schmel, and Jim's still reading. And then he came. The spirit of God said to me again, but it was louder. You're calling me liar, But I don't feel like I know you. Third time he said to me, how did you get saved? Well, at that point, I thought he was making fun of me because, you know, he was there. And I just said to him, what? What? How did I get saved? He didn't say anything else to me. But then all of a sudden, the light came on. Are you kidding me? Here I am, a Rhema graduate, been taught the word of faith for how many years, and I'm in the ministry. We even have a faith shield revolving around the top of our church building. And I'm just learning that I've got to speak in faith according to the word, not just for healing, not just for my finances, but for my walk and my relationship with God.
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Hello.
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I went home that afternoon. I walked into my bedroom, put my Bible down on the nightstand, and I just stood there looking straight out the window. Holy Ghost, guess what I found out today? I found out that I know you. I would like to say a dove flew by the window, or the blind shook, or something happened that was wild, but it didn't. But I did not change what I was speaking, and I kept going. You're more real to me than anything else in life. You live on the inside of me. I know you. You might say, well, why are you breaking down the simplicity of this little story? You'll get it here in a second. Because there's deeper places in God. And God is waiting for the church to step out into the deep. And it's gotta come from who you are in Christ, from that righteous place in him that you're able to step out into the deep. Are you with me? And in order to do these things, you've got to recognize you know him. He's not asking you how you feel. Do you feel spiritual right now? Do you feel anointed right now? Maybe you do that's wonderful. But there are times you don't feel. But thank God we don't go by feeling. We go by what we know. We go by what the Word says. There's a song I used to sing when I was in the group. The Word says, I'm anointed, so I am. The Word says, I'm anointed, so I am. I've got that burden, removing yoke, destroying power of God in my life. The Word says, I'm anointed, so I am. So if the Word says it, that's me. And the last time I looked, Jesus is the word. And Jesus said in John 14, you know him, right? We know him. So two weeks I kept speaking. Holy Spirit, I know you. You're so real to me. You're more real to me than anything else in life. I was laying in bed that first night, and I was getting ready to drift off and go to sleep. And all of a sudden, it was almost like the Holy Ghost hit the bed. And I was like, oh, Holy Ghost, I'm so glad I know you. You're more real to me than the bed that I'm sleeping in tonight. I know you. You are my reality. You are real to me. I hear you. I see you. I know you. Because, see, I'm a spirit. Aren't you? A spirit made in the image of the likeness of God. God never meant for the things of the spirit to be hard. He said, through Paul, walk in the spirit, live in the spirit, and we're to operate in him. Amen. I think a lot of times being raised Pentecost, you know, you see a lot of crazy things in the church. Oh, the Holy Ghost made me do it. You want to go? Oh, no, he didn't. If that was the Holy Ghost, I don't know him, you know. But I'm so thankful that I was able to get around the Word and be taught the Word. So you can imagine when you're in a church with the Word and the Spirit Spirit, how far you're gonna go. Are you with me? I think that's like, you guys, right? Word and Spirit place. So for two weeks, I just kept speaking out of my heart. I know you. I know you. You're real to me. I even begin to lead the music in prayer school differently. We had 10 minutes that we could have music before we went into prayer or the teaching of prayer or whatever. And it was limited because they didn't want us having Holy Ghost meetings all the time because, you know, you're in a room With a bunch of ministers that have been sitting in classes all day. They're ready to come and shout and run and dance, and that's what we love to do in prayer school, you remember? And so, you know, 10 minutes. And so we had to hit the anointing right at the top. We couldn't wait for 30 minutes of worship. And then finally we find it. And so when I begin to realize that John 14:17 was my reality, I began to pray different with the team. We'd stand out in the hallway right before the service, and the first time I did it, I told him, I said, guys, I'm going to pray a little different today. Just going to pray a little different. You just stay here with me. And they were just like, okay, you know, they always, you know, it's Ms. Leanne. What's she gonna pray? What's she gonna do? You know? And so I started praying, Father, I thank you that your spirit is real to us. I thank you that Jesus paid the price. And I just started praying, and then I said, but he sent the Holy Spirit. Jesus did it. But then when he left, he sent the Holy Ghost, and he's in the earth. And we know you, Holy Ghost, we know you. About that time, I opened up one eye just to see what the team was doing. Two of them was looking dead at me, and I just looked at him and smiled and go, holy Ghost. And then I began to encourage them. When we step up on the platform, we know the spirit of God. We're going to step right into the anointing. And I just changed the way I talked all the time. It got to the place. Every time we stepped up, we just hit it. Boom, boom. It's amazing what faith does. So two weeks goes by. I'm talking different, speaking different Holy Spirit, I'm so glad when I'm in the car by myself, when I'm in the room at home by myself, I'm speaking, I'm talking, holy Ghost, we know you. I know was in prayer school. Two weeks later, I had just led the praise and worship again. I'm sitting down over in my seat. Jim is up speaking again, and there's a door just like this exit over here. And I was Jim's assistant, so the ushers knew, if something's going on in the room and Jim doesn't tell you what to do, look at Leanne, and she'll tell you what to do. And so I'm sitting over here about where Morgan is sitting, and. And all of a sudden, I saw smoke coming through the cracks of the door. And I thought, oh, my goodness, what's on fire in the hallway? What's going on out there? And I keep looking at that usher thinking, are you gonna go check it out? Because jim's talky, talky, talky. And I'm like, is somebody gonna go do something? And then I thought, well, dear God, you know how many thoughts you get in your mind just in five seconds, seconds? And I'm thinking, well, I'm gonna have to run out. No, I'll just tell Jim. No, I'll just go out. And then why isn't that usher looking at me? Because the more I'm sitting there, the thicker it's coming in. And now it's covering where the usher's setting. And that usher's looking straight through it. What's his problem? And then all of a sudden, I got spiritual because this whole section now was looking straight through it. I was like, oh, God, it's your glory. I'm seeing your glory. Oh, God, I'm seeing it. I wish there had been a video on my face, Covered half of the section here in the middle. And then it began to cover where jim was standing. And I can remember it just as clear as today. I saw him push his bible over to the side, and he goes, well, the glory just came in the room. And I was sitting there thinking, I saw it before you did. And the glory filled the entire room. And people just started receiving all kinds of things. Healings, deliverances, everything. I mean, we just ended up having in a hee haw time. Wonderful. But, you know, that day changed the course of my life in ministry, you might say. Oh, because you saw the glory? No, it's because I finally understood that what I speak is what I get. What I declare from the word is mine. Ha ha. For the realm of the spirit is a real place, and God wants us to operate in that realm. And it's not hard. We've been graced. We've been graced to operate there so many times I get up and I don't know squat diddly what I'm going to do in a meeting. Even when I was in the rhema singers and band with regina up here. Oh, my goodness. I was goofy enough to tell Philip slaughter, who was in the group that was over the songs that we sang. I was goofy enough to tell that boy, hey, phil, you don't know what to do in a meeting with dad. You just look at me, I'll have it. He looked at me and he goes, girl, you're Crazy. I go, nope, I know the Holy Ghost. There was a day that I wished I had never told him that because he called on me frequently. Even when he knew what the service was supposed to be doing, he would call on me. But I stirred myself up so much of who I am in Christ all the time and how that I know the spirit of God. So that when I was called upon, even though my head didn't know it, I would step out like I knew it. Yeah, just like when I was here in October and Pastor Nancy called me up when I was just going to sit and soak in and give my supply for my seat. I came in ready to drink. And then she said, well, Leanne, I can't remember if you said, just give what you've got or whatever. And I thought, shook a booga like a boogoo. No interpretation needed on that. That was not tongues. But because I had practiced the Word so much and have been living this for such a long time, I just was like, all right. And my go to is when you don't know what to do, everybody ought to look our hands up and worship God. It's amazing. Ministers just always do that. They'll think you're so spiritual. They think you know what you're doing when you're still going, hallelujah. But I'll never forget we were in, oh, Hampton, Virginia, on a crusade with Brother Hagin. And it was a marathon meeting. You ever been in a marathon meeting? I hope you don't feel like that way right now. But it was just going and going and going and going and going. And Brother Hagin wasn't the one speaking. He was up on the platform and some of us in the group were sitting behind him and then some were sitting over on this side. And it was like 9:30 at night on a Thursday night. And it had been a good meeting. But man, you know we worked in the group, right, Regina? We worked. Joel knows that. Yeah, we worked in the group. And it was a lot of fun ministry wise, but we did a lot of hard work. And so 9:30, it's Thursday. I think we need to do the altar call. Philip was down front and he was talking and he's sharing and he's sharing and he's reading one of Dad's prophecies. And I'm sitting there thinking, dear God, Philip, okay, I'm showing you my flesh right now. Dear God, Philip, Brother Hagin is sitting right here. Why don't you just let him just read his own prophecy or let him get up and prophesy right now or end the meeting. We're coming back in the morning. Cause I was tired. I make you respect me, don't I?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. And so he keeps going, going, going. And Brother Hagin, he was sitting in this big wing back chair, and we had some folding chairs that we were sitting behind him. And I had shrunk down into my seat, and I'm just going, oh, God. Jesus. Jesus. I look across the way, and Marty Blackwelder, some of you know who he is, he was a piano player in the group. And he's sitting over on the other side in a folding chair, and he's got his elbows on his knees. He knows I tell this story, have no fear. He's got his elbows on his knees, just leaning over, and he's just staring at me. And when I finally realized he was looking at me, I looked over at him and he goes, oh, my. I'm telling off on us. If Joel was there, he would have been doing it, too, I promise you. And when Marty did that to me, I looked at him and I go. And then all of a sudden, I see if people knew what we were doing on the platform behind Brother Hagin. I mean, isn't that terrible? Then all of a sudden, I heard my name, and it was Philip. Leanne. I didn't want to move, and I didn't. And then he said, leanne over the microphone, leanne, I know you're up there. So I stood up and just smiled. He said, come on down. So I start walking, you know, and he's still talking. He turns around, starts talking again, and he's down on the floor. I'm up on the platform. I walk by Marty, and Marty goes, altar call, sister. Altar call. And I looked at him and I said, I will. And then when I got past him, Brother Hagin is over there in his chair, and he's praying like a house of fire. And it wasn't just. And I'm like, going, oh, God. And I started walking very slow. Oh, my goodness. Dad's got something. Why am I going to the platform? Why am I the one that's gotta. Oh, God. Altar call. Oh, God. No, I repent. God forgive me. Forgive me. God forgive me. I repented, got baptized, saved all over again by the time I got down to the podium. But there was a scripture that started screaming at me. Thank God it did. Holy Ghost, I know you. Jesus said, I know you because I know you. I've got this. I've got this. Whatever you want in this meeting right now, I thank you that your mercy endures forever towards me. I've got this. I told Philip, when you don't know what to do, just come ask me. I'll have it while I cocky Leanne. But I got this, Holy Ghost, because you're in me. Doesn't your Bible say in First John 2:20, you've got an unction. You have an unction from the holy one and you know all things. And so I got it. I got it. I don't know everything in my head, but the holy spirit who lives on the inside of me knows all things. And I know him. Jesus said, I do. Yes, yes. So I'm using my faith. So then I finally get down to the podium. Philip is standing right here and he's still talky talky. And he looks at me and he goes, so, Leanne, tell us where the church world is today. I wanted to gut him so bad because he handed me the mic and he snickered and walked away. I'm standing there and thoughts went through my mind because Billye brim was there and she had gotten up and shared. And I thought, dear God, why didn't he ask her? She knows everything about the church, but oh, no, it's me. And so what do you do when you've got all those eyes looking at you and you're supposed to tell them where the church world is today? So you know what I did? Let's all just lift our hands and worship God.
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God.
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Let's just worship God. Oh, father, you're so good. And on the inside, Holy Ghost, I know you because I know you. I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. Got the major prophet behind me praying up like a house of fire up there, you know, I'm so glad I know you, Holy Ghost. I worship you, father. And I just begin to worship. Just begin to worship. Get people going vertical, eyes get off of you. They get back on him. And then I just begin to sing in the spirit. And then as I begin to sing in the spirit, I begin to sing about the church, the body of Christ Jesus coming and sang all this out and thought, dear God, I want to sit down and take notes. It was amazing. Don't ask me what I said now I'd have to go back and listen. But it was good then.
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But.
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I remember as I continued to do that and sing out of my heart, I'd turn and I'd look at brother Hayden because I thought, he's probably going to come up and Prophesy or something, you know. And I'd look back at him and this is all he would do. Look at me. I thought, what in the world does that mean? And so as I'm going, oh, hallelujah. I turned to the manager in the group, Richie, and I go, what does dad mean by what he's doing?
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Oh, hallelujah, Hallelujah.
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And Richie looked over at him, and then he looks back at me. He goes, well, I don't know. After the meeting, after the meeting, I was talking to Annie Durant, you know, she's in the rain with singers, you know, And I said to her, I go, what? She goes, well, Leanne, you know what, dad, man. I go, no, I don't. And she said, he was saying to you, you're doing what I would do. Keep doing it. I was like, that would have been nice to have had that interpretation, but I kept doing it, thank God. And then it ended up to where Floyd White, another singer in the group that used to be in the Rhema Singers, came up, went school when we did, came up and he began to sing in the spirit. And Philip and I began to sing with him in tongues, in three part harmony, as if we'd rehearsed it. It was absolutely beautiful. And then we begin to sing a song about Days of Heaven on the Earth. Days of Heaven on the Earth. The following week, Richie got ahold of me, the manager of the group, he said, you know, dad and I just was in. I think they were in Detroit or something, and dad was talking to somebody and he said, dad, totem. We went someplace in that meeting on Thursday night of last week that we haven't been in years. So you could imagine my head went, God, you're so merciful. That I even had a small supply to bring to that meeting. I shared all of that. To say, doesn't matter your personality, doesn't matter who you are. Five fold call, not five fold call you. Jesus said, knows the Holy Ghost. You know him. It's amazing when you confess the word, how it can become your reality. The more you speak it, the more you say it. Because, see, there's places in the Spirit that God wants us to go to. There's things that he wants us to operate in. There's places, there's rooms in heaven that we've got to enter into bringing things from heaven to the earth. I was in a session the other day in a prayer school session. And as I was in that session, we began to pray. And as we were praying, there was a room or there is a room in heaven that I've, years ago, began to experience a room of body parts. Some of you probably been there before. And it's in heaven, and I'll never forget it. God was calling me to deeper places in prayer. He was calling me and. And. And there were times when he was calling me to these deeper places in him that I felt like, no, no, I don't want to do this, because I don't want to get weird. You know, being raised Pentecost, I was around people that would get flaky in prayer. I didn't want to get flaky. But see, what I found is that when you are in the Word, you can stay balanced. Just like dad used to tell us. Be in the Word as much as you are in prayer. Be in prayer as much as you are in the Word. Be balanced. I think Pastor Nancy said something about that, too, just recently, about how we need to be balanced, because there are places in the Spirit that God has for us to go. Amen. And we want to be balanced in these things and these rooms and these places that he has. I would say to him so often, I'm just not comfortable with this stuff. I'm not comfortable. But it would happen that I prayed with this one prayer group, these girls. God put us together supernaturally on the campus. Sometimes twice a week, we'd get together and we'd pray, and God would just take us on journeys. And you might say, well, what did you pray about? Our prayer focus. Usually, most of our prayer groups always had prayer focuses, but our prayer focus was whatever the Holy Spirit deems the most important thing that needs to be prayed at the moment. And so we'd get in there, we'd worship God for just a little bit, and then we'd just begin to pray in the Spirit. And then as we would begin to pray in the Spirit, unction would come on us. And, you know, I think sometimes we make unction hard when it's not, you know, Brother Hagin said, you can tell when somebody's got unction. You can just tell they got some spunk, they got some oomph to what they're doing. And so that we'd be in there praying. Then all of a sudden, one of us would start sounding a little bit like, hmm, you got a little bit more on you than the rest of us. And so my personality, a lot of times, you know, God uses all of us, but I would stop them, and I'd say, wait a minute, wait a minute. What are you praying about? Right now? What are you getting right now? And, you know, a lot of times they'd say, well, I don't know, it just seems like we're in heaven right now. Some about heaven, you know, or one would say, you know, I feel like we're in heaven too. And then somebody would say, well, I feel like I'm praying about this and that, whatever. And, you know, didn't take a rocket sight. It's. If two of us are feeling like you know, something about heaven, then why don't we go with the two? See, I think we make things of the spirit way too hard. You know, you follow those leadings, of course, by the spirit of God within. And sometimes we try to make it, ooh, I gotta have goosebumps or I've gotta really. Oh, have a vision. But it's simple. You just follow where unction is, where there's some oomph to it. Are you with me? And then we would just step over and we just pray out things. And so often we'd go places and we'd see things in the Spirit and God would take us on journeys, things for the last days. I could tell you prayer story after prayer, stories after prayer, stories of things that happened because we were just obedient to just yield to him and give him Holy Ghost. Whatever you want us to pray about. We didn't. We didn't go in with our own agenda. I remember one time when we went in and we began to pray. I'll never forget it. All of a sudden, my head's bowed. We're all kneeling down this table like a coffee table, you know, in the prayer room. And as we're praying, all of a sudden I see something off in the distance. You might say, what do you mean? I mean, you're in a prayer room. Yeah, I'm in a prayer room. But I knew I was in heaven. And I saw something off in the distance. And it was, you know, just.
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What?
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You know, just you just. To me, it was just like I saw clouds, and it was just pretty and it was wonderful. But I saw something coming towards me. And I remember I'm praying in the Spirit and I'm looking at it with my spiritual eyes. And all of a sudden, as it gets closer, it's a horse with a man on it praying right there in a prayer room on campus. And I'm going, oh, my. Oh, my. The night before, I had been in a meeting. And in that meeting, there was a woman there that was speaking. And she looked over at me. She came back to where I was sitting in a pew in the back. And she said, you. I go, yes, ma'.
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Am.
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She goes, you, it's time for you to start seeing. She goes, do you understand what I mean? I go, yeah, because the fire of God was all on me. And I was wanting her to go, okay, amen, and leave, because I was burning up. It was snowing outside, but I'm hot. Because I knew I'd gotten an impartation. She said, it's time for you to start seeing, not singing. Do you understand what I'm thinking? Yes, I understand. She goes, not S I, n G, I, n G, but S E E I n G. And I was like, yes. And then she goes, okay. And she walked down the aisle and continued to speak. And then she stopped. And then she looked over her shoulder at me and she said, some have to decide to see. And I just remember thinking, just glad you're not by me right now, because I'm finally cooling down. But, Father, what's going on? So the next morning is when I'm with these girls praying in a prayer room, and I'm seeing something coming towards me. A horse and a rider on a horse. And then all of a sudden, I heard the minister the night before. Some have to decide to see. And I was like, yeah, but I don't want to. Mm, mm. This is flaky. This is weird. And then I stopped the girls praying. I go, everybody just wait a minute. Guys, stop. Stop praying. Stop praying for a minute. And this was before I was prayer coordinator at Rhema. And I go, just wait a second. And they stopped. And they were like, what? I said, what are you guys seeing? Are you seeing something? And they looked at me. And one girl said, well, it seems like we're in heaven. There's something about heaven. I go, yep, yep, yep, there is. That's what I'm seeing, too. Another girl said, well, I see this minister and this minister, and it seems like I'm wanting to pray for them. And I remember looking at her going, I ain't got what I got. I go, okay. And then I said, guys, something different's happening. Something different happening here. And then all of a sudden, you know how the spirit of God will just tell you, just speak to your heart about things. He spoke to my heart, and he said. And I just said what? He said. Back in 1988, I believe it was Brother Hagin. I was at a camp meeting with Brother Hagin there at the convention center in Tulsa, and he was up speaking. And while he was Speaking. All of a sudden, he stopped speaking. And he said. Well, he said, there is a man that has come. He was way up high. He's got a white turban on his head. Remember this has a white turban on his head. And he's. He was up there real high in the. In the arena. And. But. But he. He's. He walked in midair, just straight over, came down, and he's standing in front of the podium right now. How many of you ever heard him tell that story? And I remember. I mean, I was pretty young, you know, a lot younger than she was at that time. And I'm sorry. I'm gonna be nice. I'm gonna be nice. I promise. I'll start beating David up instead. He's older than both of us. But anyway, no, I'm playing. Well, it's true.
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But I'm.
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Long story short, I remember as I was sitting there, young girl, you know, I'm trying to see who's in front of that podium. I can't see him. And I'm just, like, going, what?
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What? What?
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And dad. Dad Hagin, he goes. He goes, all right, I'm gonna see what. What he's here for. And he begins to talk. Eyes open, spiritual eyes open. And he's talking to him. And Brother Hayman was like, yep, yep, yep. Okay, we'll do that. And then dad stopped and he told us what he wanted. And he said. He said, you know, the church is in great turmoil in India, and I've come for you to stand with us in faith, in prayer, and pray for the church in India. And then Brother Hagin said, let's all stand. And, I mean, it sounded like the troops were standing up, all the chairs were cling, clink, clink, cling. And we began to pray. Brother Hagin prayed, and then he prayed for John Osteen, because at that time was doing a big work there, and he prayed for John Osteen's ministry as well. And then he was like, all right, we got it. We got it. We got it. Okay. All right. There he goes. He's gone back in Mark, chapter 11. And he went right back into his message. And I remember thinking, dear God, are you kidding me? You need to break that down for me. I need some understanding on that. You know? But he didn't. Because. See, things like that, you know, he didn't glorify manifestations of things like that. You know, I think he operated so much in things, and he didn't tell us stuff, you know, but he went right back into his message. But now this is years later, and I'm in a prayer room with the girls. And that came back to me. And I said, guys, do any of you remember that? Oh, I never heard that story before. I go, it happened. I said, but do you remember the guy from Macedonia that came to Paul? And they were like, yeah. I said, something going on in this prayer room right now. There's a horse and a rider, and they've. He's got something he's wanting to say. I said, I don't know who he is, but maybe one of you guys can pick it up from here. And they all looked at me and said, no, you. I was like, I don't want to get flaky and weird. See, I was so concerned that I was going to get off that I almost missed out. On how God was training and teaching me. And all of a sudden, I'm not telling you all the details of everything, but he. He looked at me and he said, he goes, I need you to go somewhere with me. And I just told them what he was saying. And we just kept praying in the spirit. And I go, oh, my goodness, we're following him. We're in heaven. I said, there's a winding road, and we're following him. And we got to this huge door, and us girls were used to praying. And, you know, you're praying for doors of utterance to be made open. So we're ready to go in the name of Jesus. Doors open. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, girls, you don't. No, no, no. We have access. We're already in. It was the largest room. It was so huge and so bright, you couldn't see the walls. But I watched him go tie his horse up. And then he came back, and he stood in front of me. And then he began to speak to me, and he said, this is a place of ministry. This is a place of prayer. And I've called you to bring many to this place. And I just spoke out to the girls what he was saying. And then all of a sudden, one of the girls goes, whoa, this is where I've got to pray. I've got to pray for those ministers. I've got to pray for those two ministers. And so we started praying, and, boy, there was unction on it, meaning anointing was on it. And so, man, we started praying. But then all of a sudden, I realized, wait a minute, this is weird. See, my head clicked in, and I looked over. I looked over at that guy because he had walked over to the side. And I thought, please, if this was of God, why didn't Jesus come and get me and bring me to this place? And just within seconds, he was in front of me with his finger. Now, they're still praying for the ministers, but this guy's got his finger right in my face, and he's telling me, I am an angel sent by God to bring you to this place. And he knows I brought you here. What do you think I did? It's exactly what I did. Woo Jesus. And I started praying. I had just recently was listening to Jesse Duplantis, what is it called? Encounters with God or, you know, heaven. When he went to heaven, and he said, you better be careful what you think when you're in heaven, because they know your thoughts. And I was like, oh, my God.
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I am in heaven. He knew my thoughts.
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After we finished out praying a lot, he came back over and he said, spirit of God said, I'm setting up many in this room right now. That's what he just said to me. He goes, I'm sitting you up in this room to go deeper into some of these places in him. But you've got to go knowing you're righteous, that you're in right standing with him. You're covered in the blood of Jesus. And you know the spirit of God. You know him. Mm. Because I know him. I can follow him. And in this last day, we've got to get bolder about things, to not hold back. Are you guys okay with this? Is this all right? So that angel came back over after he spoke out some things, and I said to them what he was saying, and then he said, I will never bring you to this place again because you now know how to come. I'll never bring you here again. And he walked over to the horse, got on it, and went out the room. I go, guys, he's gone, but we're still here. And we just stayed in his presence. Now, in that season of my life, I started taking all of prayer school there, but wouldn't tell him what I was doing. I didn't get up and teach on it. I didn't get up and share on it. I didn't tell it. But I prayed so much from that place that I just carried it. We're carriers, you know, you're carriers of things. And I would just carry that place in the spirit with me. And I would get up, like right now, we're in that room. Right now. We're right there. And it is in this room that I was praying and all of a sudden realized that there's another room over there. And I went through the door, and Jim was with me while we were praying this particular time. And we walked right into a room of body parts. And it was like, oh, my goodness. I go, jim, do you see anything? He goes, yeah. Are you seeing all these body parts? I go, yes, I'm seeing all these body parts. He goes, let's grab them. And. And I mean, he was stockpiling them. You know, anybody that knows him, you know, he's, ah, you know. And we started having so many healings and things take place in healing school because we were learning how to operate over in that realm. But I shared all of that. To say this just the other day when I was praying in a prayer school session, all of a sudden, as we were praying, because of the day that we're in, I found I don't have to feel like I'm going up into heaven to get stuff. It's already here. It's already here for me to tap into. It's already here, and all I have to do is tap into it. Now, if you haven't experienced, haven't a lot of experience in prayer in these areas, start praying. You want to be led by the spirit of God, of course. You don't want to get flaky, weird or strange. That's why it's nice to have prayer buddies, right? I don't want to see things in the spirit so that I can just get up and share and. And tell everybody, oh, look at me. Look at how. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, that's where things get off. Everybody would start pulling on Brother Hagin and he would start telling things and sharing things, and he would start shutting down, and he wouldn't do it because people were pulling on him so much. And it was like, no. How many of you know that it's imperative for us as the body of Christ to begin to operate in the things of. Of God and not be afraid? That's why I love being around people like her. Why? Because she's such a word lady that she going to tell me and she's going to correct anything I've said tonight. Yeah. I'll never forget when she told me, she goes, oh, Leanne, I've been listening to some of your stuff on YouTube. And I was like, oh, God. And then I've heard her speak, and sometimes I'd be like, oh, she listened to something I said and she just corrected me. Now, she probably didn't mean it. I Don't know. Did you mean it?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. She's precious, isn't she? But it was like, oh my. I can't tell you how many times that I could tell. Just a little bit. Yes. She was listening to me. And look what she just did to that statement I make. Karate chop. But that's why inspirational speakers, people that are prayers all the time. You have to have five fold ministry gifts. You have to have the teaching gift, the pastor pastoral gift. Speaking, teaching you so we don't get off. I listen to dad Hagin all the time still. Huh? But as a student I had made a decision. If he's going someplace, I'm going. And it's amazing how that God will satisfy the desires of your heart. I don't even know what time I started. And it's 9:20. It's time to go. What time did I get it? About seven. I so love her. Yeah. Praise the lord. I guess I just want to create within you. Hunger to go deeper, to go further. To know that there are places in God that we can operate in that it's beyond our natural thinking. Yes. It's living out of who we are in Christ. Faith is not supposed to be just used in healing our finances or favor. But it's in our relationship with him. If God says something is ours, then it's ours. If he said, you know me, then I know him. How many times I'd be called upon and I'd be like, oh great, I don't know what to do. But by faith on the inside, Holy Ghost, I know ya. Holy Ghost, I know ya. And then God would show up every time. I know. Pastor Nancy told me that Brother Ed would call on her and she would be like. And she'd just trust that him as the leader knows. And that's what I learned at Rhema being under Jim and Brother Hagin. If they call on me, then I'm just gonna step out by faith. And if they missed it, God's still gonna bless me because I'm stepping out by faith. We've got a supply of God on the inside of us for these last days. And God's calling us to go deeper. God's calling us to go further and to live out of who we are in Him. I'm looking forward to having some prayer times. Hopefully tomorrow. That is if she lets me speak again. I won't give her eye contact right now. I want to keep going, but I have another service.
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Don't I have.
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She's mean. I'm telling you. Do what? Don't bite the hand that feeds her. My husband is now taking up with her. You have to sleep with me tonight. Hey. Does you love God? Don't you know God has no problem with us having fun in church? Let's pray for just a moment. Father, I thank you for the truth tonight. I thank you, Father, for the revelation of your spirit. I thank you for understanding. I thank you, Father God, that we, as the body of Christ, are going to go deeper, that we're going to see more, operate in more. Because we're in the last day. And in this last day there's a much, much, much, much that is taking place. And we, as the Church, have ears to hear what you're speaking. Holy Spirit. We know you. We know you. I'm so glad we know you. We hear you. We see you. We follow you. Oh, my. Glory. My, my, my. For the ministries of God. No, no, no. Sigaramande Freedom and ambassadors. The bomb. Glory, glory, glory, glory. Father, we thank you for those deeper depths in you that there are. Oh, my. Realms in glory. Realms. Places that you have for us to operate in. To operate with understanding in where clarity is. And it's for the body of Christ today to operate without fear. To know that your spirit is wooing us. And we, as the body, are walking in the spirit, living in the spirit, hearing your heart, the Word and the Spirit together. Oh, Father, thank you that you're helping us. Thank you that you're teaching us. Worlds of eyes of ISO Way, Worlds of vase. Brena di Lorina Rain. The rain of your spirit in this hour. The rain of your glory in this day. The rain is falling. Oh, the rain is falling. The rain is falling.
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Oh.
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Go deddy dizi Brahma Sade beneste.
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Oh, the rain, the rain, the rain.
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The rain, the rain, the rain, the rain, the rain. Oh, it's raining, it's raining. It's raining. It's rain. And your word is our reality. And we operate in you in every way. Father, thank you for the utterance and the action that was here this evening. And Father, we yield ourselves to you. Whatever you want us to do, whatever you want us to say, Whatever you want us to pray. O God, we consecrate our life unto you. The rain is fallen, the rain is falling. The rain of your spirit.
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The glory of the Lord. It's the rain of your spirit. In the latter days all doors are open wide and revelation flowing high. Doors are open wide and revelation flowing high. Oh, the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord is now.
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We'Ll do our part.
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We'Ll pray and.
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The rain comes down oh, the rain comes down.
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Oh, all the rain the rain of your spirit comes down yeah.
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The rain.
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The rain rain, the rain the rain of the spirit comes down, yeah all pitter patter the rain of your glory Miracles, wonder signs the rain of your spirit Coming down now coming down now wow. It's coming down now, now, now, now, now now, now, now, now Coming down right now we're in the rain we're in the rain of your glory, Lord yeah, we're in the rain we're in the rain of your glory, Lord Rain, glory down, glory down.
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We hear, we.
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See, we know.
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Yeah, we hear, we.
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See and we know.
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We hear, we see and we know the glory is now.
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Hallelujah. Why don't you just say hallelujah? Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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Oh, let's just lift our hands up.
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Oh, hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. The glory of the the Lord.
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The.
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Glory of the Lord.
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The glory of.
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The Lord.
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Is right now it's come down. Oh spiritually, Father, we make a decision to live and move and have our being you in you always. Oh, God.
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Rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain.
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Hallelujah.
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Oh, let's just shout hallelujah again. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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