Podcast Summary: "You've Got To Say It To Move It" | Dr. Ed Dufresne | Classic Sermons

Dufresne Ministries Podcast – June 10, 2019

Overview

In this classic sermon, Dr. Ed Dufresne delivers a passionate teaching on the power of faith-filled words, focusing on Mark 11 and the eternal principle: to move things in the spirit and the natural, you must SAY what you want to see happen. Drawing from decades of ministry experience and personal encounters with God, Dr. Dufresne explains how the spoken word activates spiritual laws, unlocks supply, and manifests revival. He peppers the message with vivid stories, practical illustrations, and memorable quotes, equipping believers and ministers to boldly declare God’s promises until they come to pass.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Background & Call to Ministry

(00:50–05:00)

• Dr. Dufresne recounts his dramatic salvation story, from being a "drunk on a bar stool" to hearing God's call to preach worldwide.
• Reflects on 50 years in ministry, noting commitment and staying power are rare among ministers.
• Quote:

  “If you’re a baby and a whiner, you won’t make it in the ministry.” – Dr. Ed Dufresne (06:55)

2. The Pattern of Divine Communication and Seasons

(05:00–14:00)

• Shares multiple supernatural encounters, including Jesus commissioning him to walk in new ministry offices (apostle and prophet), confirmed through visions and prophecies (e.g., Dr. Lester Sumrall).
• Explains how God communicates uniquely with each individual and the importance of recognizing divine patterns.
• God marked out personal promises by decade (“From 60 to 70 I will bless you personally...from 70 to 80 you will bear more spiritual fruit…”).

3. Spiritual Warfare and Perseverance

(10:00–16:00)

• Dr. Dufresne testifies about intense opposition ("all hell broke loose"), especially during transitions to new spiritual assignments.
• Encourages perseverance and not finding identity in others’ opinions:

  “My joy is not in other people’s head and what they think of me. My joy is obeying God.” (12:50)

4. "Coming to Pass" Campaign: Practical Examples of Speaking Faith

(16:00–22:00)

• Describes raising funds for church buildings and ministries by launching the "Coming to Pass" campaign, tied to daily declarations of faith ("Everything I'm believing for will come to pass").
• Shares a vision of a “wave” filled with everything ministers need – money, buildings, equipment – illustrating abundance in God’s move.
• Connects this to prophesied revivals spanning the 20th century, culminating in a coming wave where all the gifts of the Spirit and ministries operate at full potential (19:45).

  “Everything you need is in the wave...God funds every revival.” (20:22)

5. Faith, Supply, and Speaking to Needs

(22:00–33:00)

• Teaches practical faith in God’s provision, citing personal testimonies of miraculous financial supply (e.g., paying a $38,000 bill in three days by declaring “I have a supply” – 32:10).
• Warns against claiming a "fixed income" or speaking lack:

  “Everybody says, ‘Well, I’m on a fixed income.’ Who fixed it? ... Your mouth fixed it.” (29:20)

6. Fresh Revelation in the New Move of God

(33:00–37:00)

• Emphasizes the need for continual, daily feeding of faith (by hearing, not just having heard the Word):

  “Faith don’t come by heard. Faith comes by hearing over and over.” (34:50)

• Stresses maintaining a lifestyle of faith, not living off old revelations or encounters.

7. Teaching from Mark 11: The Law of Saying and Moving Things

(37:00–52:00)

• Unpacks Mark 11:12–24, highlighting Jesus speaking (answering) to the fig tree and teaching the “God kind of faith.”
• Main lesson: Everything needed on earth “has ears to hear”—it exists in the world, waiting for faith-filled words to move it.
• Practical illustration: Declaring to buildings, dirt, finances, and personal property, asserting their transformation (45:55).

8. Examples and Application: From Speaking to Fulfillment

(52:00–59:00)

• Tells stories of calling buildings into existence by daily declarations:
  • Speaking to a playground: “Playground, you’re supposed to be a building.” (54:15)
  • Speaking to dirt: “Dirt, you’re supposed to be a building.” (57:10)
  • Speaking to foundation, steel, and wood; each phase was supplied step by step through faith.
• Attribution of debt-free progress and blessings directly to daily faith confessions and sowing financial seeds.

9. The Power of Words: Real-world Consequences

(59:00–01:11:00)

• The “three sayings” of Mark 11—emphasis on saying more than just believing (“your tongue is a pen...writing on your heart”).
• Warns that negative speaking writes defeat on one’s heart (shares his mother’s example: self-fulfilling words of early death).

  “What’s written on your heart is what you’ll believe.” (01:07:20)

10. Final Lessons: Gratitude, Excellence, and Association

(01:11:00–End)

• Advocates surrounding oneself with "faith people" and maintaining gratitude and excellence in everything (ministry, home, possessions).
• Points out negative consequences of grumbling, lack of gratitude, or poor stewardship.
• Encourages believers to use their words to move everything towards them—resources, relationships, and ministry opportunities.

  “If you’re saying, ‘This old stupid car’—you’ll never get another one. You might as well enjoy it.” (01:13:40)

• Playful yet serious reminders to “put a governor on your mouth” and speak in line with God’s Word.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On spiritual endurance:

  “If you just outlast everybody, you’ll get a whole new generation that needs you.” (09:25)

• On moving supply:

  “Faith answers different than doubt and unbelief.” (32:45)

• On speaking to bills:

  “I have a supply to annihilate you.” (32:10)

• On daily confession:

  “What we’re doing—this is a reminder every day, like putting a note on your refrigerator—that it will come to pass. Everything I’m believing for will come to pass. You have to say it.” (19:12)

• On Mark 11 & moving things:

  “Say unto this mountain, be thou removed...You gotta say it to move it.” (01:00:50)

• On stewardship:

  “What are you saying about your house?...You ain’t going to get another one [if you’re complaining].” (01:13:40)

• On excellence:

  “There’s something about excellence. I run around with excellent people...with faith people, people that talk right.” (01:15:30)

Important Timestamps

• [00:50] – Dr. Dufresne's salvation story and start in ministry
• [05:00] – Jesus’ visitation and spiritual commissioning
• [12:50] – On critics and maintaining joy in obedience
• [16:00] – "Coming to Pass" campaign explanation
• [19:45] – Vision of the abundant wave of provision
• [20:22] – “God funds every revival” prophecy
• [29:20] – On fixed incomes and using your words
• [32:10] – Personal financial breakthrough testimony
• [34:50] – Faith comes by hearing, not having heard
• [37:00] – Beginning of Mark 11 teaching
• [54:15] – Declaring over the playground for building construction
• [57:10] – Speaking to dirt and further construction illustrations
• [01:00:50] – Mark 11’s “saying” principle highlighted
• [01:07:20] – “Your tongue is a pen...writing on your heart”
• [01:13:40] – On gratitude and replacing negative speech with faith

Closing Exhortation

Dr. Dufresne calls listeners to “stand to your feet” and begin moving things right now through faith-filled words. He teaches that anything—finances, buildings, relationships, ministry opportunities—can be moved by boldly declaring God’s Word over it daily. The practical illustrations, humor, and fiery exhortation combine for a stirring call-to-action: Say it to move it!