Bam Margera Turns a Page

Summary

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Dumb Blonde Podcast: "Bam Margera Turns a Page"

Host: Bunnie XO
Guest: Bam Margera & Danny Marie
Release Date: June 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

This candid, unfiltered episode is a deep dive into the turbulent journey of Bam Margera—the former Jackass star—joined by his girlfriend, Danny Marie. Together with host Bunnie XO, Bam unpacks his struggles with addiction, mental health, rehab, family dynamics, betrayals, career highs and lows, and his path (and hope) for healing and happiness. The episode explores how love, structure, and self-awareness are changing the course of Bam’s life, with both laughter and heavy truths shared along the way.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bam & Danny: How They Met and Fell Together

• Road Trip Romance:

  • Met eight months ago and quickly bonded, spending six of those months traveling the US together.
  • Regular guests at comic cons and horror conventions.
  • Shared connection over recovery and trauma, with Danny credited as a pivotal force in Bam’s new chapter.
  • (04:21–04:57, 16:13–17:01)

• Manifesting Love:

  • Bam cheekily describes “manifesting” Danny after a wild night and difficult period in LA.
  • "I was just over everything...I got a whole bunch of drugs and I was like, I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do F you, God." (06:16–06:53)
  • Meeting coincidentally thanks to shared backgrounds, dogs, and even a 'manifested' tan pitbull.
  • Danny shares her own journey through dark times, heavy drinking, and sobriety, and how the connection quickly turned serious.

2. Struggles with Addiction & The "Florida Shuffle"

• Endless Rehab Loops:

  • Bam spent over two and a half years and $660,000 stuck in the cycles of the Florida rehab system (the “Florida Shuffle”), where insurance abuse and lack of genuine support were rampant.
  • “I was in 13 different treatment centers at 90 days a piece… They kept me in there for why? For no reason." (26:39–27:01)
  • Overmedication and forced compliance made things worse, not better. (32:24–33:24)
  • "I was a zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry or come...I was just numb." (32:24–33:09)

• Corruption & Family Betrayal:

  • Bam describes being placed under a “guardian” (similar to a conservatorship), allegedly manipulated by both family and outsiders, notably “Lima,” whom he blames for physical and legal trauma.
  • Betrayal by family is revealed via body cam footage and investigative journalist BJ Investigates.
  • “[My mom] lied to me for a whole year...you even swore on your whatever’s, you know what I mean?” (28:46–29:05)

3. Mental Health System Critique

• Bam and Danny’s personal experiences underline the devastating flaws in the American mental health system:
  • “Once you’re in the system, they will find any reason to keep you there.” (24:51–25:10)
  • Hospitals and rehabs drawn to insurance payouts, not actual healing, often gaslight and overmedicate patients.
  • “If they leave on nothing, then they lose a client. They want you forever to be on their ... what did it do? Nothing.” (33:13–34:03)
  • Trauma is compounded rather than resolved.

4. Family, Custody, and Legal Battles

• Ongoing, bitter custody battle over Bam’s son, Phoenix, with ex Nikki, complicated by legal fees, court-ordered visitations, and restricted access.
• Bam feels robbed by lawyers and the system.
  • “All the money is gone to the lawyers. Congratulations. Over a matter we could have figured out in one second." (41:23–41:47)
• Struggles with family relationships—parents, ex, and siblings—tied closely to legal actions and perceived betrayals.

5. Healing, Structure, and New Beginnings

• Daily Routine:
  • Structure and purpose are key to Bam’s sobriety—mornings start with stretching, dog walks, skating, and creative projects.
  • “All I needed all along was a structured schedule that’s fun...I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know that." (65:32–65:58)
• Danny as Anchor:
  • Danny’s presence (“the stretch coach”) has given Bam daily meaning, a physical comeback, and a reason to stay clean.
  • “She gave me the perfect ultimatum: her puss or the vodka. I really like vodka but I'm not gonna go with that. I'm gonna go with the first option.” (29:05–30:01)

6. Rebuilding: Career, Friendship, & Skateboarding

• Bam is building a new team, keeping his inner circle tight for safety and focus.
  • “We have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not going to let anybody dent it anymore.” (56:58–57:04)
• Rekindling his passion for skateboarding and enjoying the community’s support at appearances.
• “When you date a boss…in a vicious circle of the hair of the dog, I wake up…It's a cycle.” (45:35–46:02)

7. Legacy, Jackass, and Resentment

• Bam feels wronged by how he was treated on the set and in dealings for Jackass movies—left out, scapegoated, and his earlier contributions minimized.
  • “If they did another jackass, would you want to be? Hell, no. It is done. Tremaine has ruined the legacy.” (53:56–54:20)
• Still harbors anger towards Knoxville and Tremaine for what he considers betrayal and exploitation.

8. Grief, Trauma, & Recovery

• Deep pain and ongoing effects from the death of best friend Ryan Dunn—a pivotal trauma fueling years of addiction and despair.
  • “When that...it hit so hard...I didn’t know what it felt like ... I didn’t.” (58:46–60:07)
• Admits most therapy during the “Florida Shuffle” was forced and ineffective, but recognizes real recovery starts with self-guided healing.
  • “I think if you did it like on your own...” (63:15–63:17)

9. Looking Forward: Love, Engagement, Purpose

• Bam and Danny are engaged, planning a meaningful wedding surrounded by music, friends, and pets.
  • Heartfelt, quirky, and totally on-brand.
  • “We really want, you know, like Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to play during it. And that's not an easy thing because you need lighting and the stage and all that. So it's not something that's going to happen soon. We're going to plan this really well." (79:42–79:56)
• Their mission includes animal rescue, activism, and supporting each other’s self-growth.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On the Cycle of Treatment:
  • "It was like two and a half years at $660,000. You could call the Guinness Book..." – Bam (04:21–04:57)
• On Manifesting Love:
  • “God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pitbull and a cup tits.” – Bam (06:16–06:53)
• On Family Betrayal:
  • “My mom...lied to me for a whole year...you even swore on your whatever’s, you know what I mean?” – Bam (28:46–29:05)
• On Being Overmedicated in Rehab:
  • “I was a zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry or come.” – Bam (32:24–33:09)
• On Money and Legal Battles:
  • “All the money is gone to the lawyers. Congratulations. Over a matter we could have figured out in one second." – Bam (41:23–41:47)
• On New Structure and Sobriety:
  • “All I needed all along was a structured schedule that’s fun.” – Bam (65:32–65:58)
• On Danny’s Support:
  • “She gave me the perfect ultimatum: her puss or the vodka…I'm gonna go with the first option.” – Bam (29:05–30:01)
• On Losing Ryan Dunn:
  • “It hit so hard to the point where I remember...I am really happy right now. I couldn't be happier. Then all of a sudden I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason...Turns out he wrecked at 12:28 in Pennsylvania, and I smashed the window at 9:28 in Phoenix. So...I knew something bad happened.” – Bam (60:06–60:47)

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Intro, quick-witted banter: [03:37–04:18]
• Meeting Danny & Bam’s relapse cycles: [04:18–07:46]
• Life on the road & recovery loop (“Florida Shuffle”): [07:46–13:00]
• Credit card/phone theft, psychic “say yes to everything” story: [13:00–15:30]
• Family interventions, conservatorship, “Lima” story: [23:09–28:35]
• Body cam betrayal, legal betrayals: [27:26–28:35]
• On Jackass legacy & feeling wronged: [47:10–54:20]
• Danny on choosing Bam & advocacy for animal rescue: [83:15–85:15]
• The proposal story: [80:09–83:02]
• Getting real about drugs, trauma, therapy: [91:02–93:38]

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Tone & Style

The episode is raw, irreverent, and emotionally charged—true to Bam’s style and the Dumb Blonde brand. Conversations swing between hilarious overshares, blunt admissions, and heartbreaking moments. The tone is at once hopeful and wounded, as Bam and Danny openly discuss growth, love, loss, and what it means to heal in public.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Bam Margera’s story is not just about fame, but about addiction, betrayal, and ultimately, perseverance.
• One’s healing often starts outside “the system,” with real relationships, structure, and finding purpose.
• Mental health and addiction care in America is deeply broken, but hope is found in small routines and loyal love.
• Animal rescue, humor, and honesty are key pieces of Bam and Danny’s everyday life.
• There’s no single definition of recovery; for Bam, structured freedom and meaningful connections are saving his life.

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Socials & Shoutouts

• Bam Margera: Captain Cream Stain / Captain Crumble
• Danny Marie: @dannymarieofficial
• Podcast Host (Bunnie XO): @dumbblondepodcast
• Shoutouts: Curiosity Donuts (Doylestown), Black Rifle Coffee, and numerous animal rescue efforts

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For anyone who’s ever struggled, loved, or lost—this episode is a raw, uproarious, and hopeful listen, reminding us that even at the lowest points, new chapters can be written.

Transcript

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[Bam Margera]

this thing on Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

[Bunnie]

Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money, and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today we have the one, the only, Bam Margera and his girlfriend, Danny Marie. What's up guys?

[Bam Margera]

What up?

[Danny Marie]

I know. So excited to be here. I think she says the F bomb more than me.

[Bunnie]

I do. I am constantly cussing people mad at my favorite. They're like, why do you say fuck? I said, because intelligent people cuss. That's what we do.

[Danny Marie]

Yep. I love it. It's like my favorite word. When I heard your first podcast, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be fun. I don't have to think before I say that word. I love that.

[Bunnie]

What have you guys been up to? Bam. What have you guys been doing?

[Bam Margera]

We've actually been on the road. We met eight months ago and about six of the months. We've been all over the place. Texas, New Mexico, Florida, South Carolina, Indiana. Made our way down here and we just been enjoying the road trip. We have two dogs And. And soon we'll be making our way to California. But we have been booking a lot of comic cons and horror cons just because, you know, we've been doing so well at them. And I've been in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle. You could call the Guinness Book because It was like two and a half years at $660,000.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, we're going to get into that later because I did, I did research a little bit of that. And I'm telling you right now, I preach it on my podcast non stop. The mental health system in America is broken wax.

[Danny Marie]

Like, especially in Florida.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, it's so bad. I want to let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here, you've literally had like a smile on your face. And that makes me happy because, you

[Bam Margera]

know, why wouldn't I look at as eye candy?

[Bunnie]

Dude, she's. I was. When you were. I was hitting on her when you walked out, I was like, hey, baby, you are fine girl.

[Danny Marie]

Fine girls in here.

[Bunnie]

Oh, you manifested her, though. I heard on an interview that you manifested her. Yeah, tell me about that.

[Bam Margera]

Well, I was pretty much. I checked into the Sunset marquee in, in Los Angeles, right on Hollywood Boulevard. I was just over everything. I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that is never ending. I'm just spending all my money on that. I just got three of my credit cards stolen and they all racked up 20 grand on each one. The last one was a stripper from. From Spearmint Rhino who racked up 20 grand in a nightclub in one night. How do you do that? That means every valet. Don't know those guys, but I'll pay for them. Don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottle service.

[Bunnie]

How?

[Bam Margera]

20 grand in one night at one nightclub? Come on.

[Danny Marie]

Well, I worked at a strip club, so that's very easy. As a bartender, you can get all your girlfriend's drinks and there, there's the 20K.

[Bam Margera]

So.

[Bunnie]

Absolutely.

[Bam Margera]

So when I checked in, I. I got a whole bunch of drugs and I was like, I. I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do F you. God. So the next morning, I'm like, man, I'm awake. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go to the pool bar. You better. God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pitbull and a cup tits. Because. Because my prior girlfriends, I. They always talk me into buying these fake boobs and they were always rocks and they always say that they'll settle down within a year. And then three years goes by. I'm like, there's still rocks.

[Danny Marie]

They didn't massage them properly.

[Bam Margera]

So when I went to the pool bar, I ordered a drink, of course. And I overhear somebody talking. Listen, I'm 43 years old. I was born in Jersey. I'm Sicilian and Irish. I'm like. And I look over, I'm like, wow.

[Bunnie]

Who?

[Bam Margera]

Sicilian? Irish? I'm Cecilia Nyers. I was born in Philly. Over the bridge. Who are you? She's like, I'm a stretch coach. I'm like. And she's like, I have to go home and walk my dogs. I'm like, what kind of dog? A tan pit bull. I'm like, thank you, God, I've been saved. And I was on a mission. And. And you know, the doctor told me in 2013 that my legs were like dry rotted rubber bands from alcohol abuse. And he was pretty much like, good luck trying to skateboard again. Which is what my passion was. I've been pro since I was 17, and because of that, it just made me drink more. So when I met her, she's like, don't listen to him at all. I stretch you an hour a day and you're gonna get your legs back. And sure enough, they're like 100 again every day. First thing, first thing we do is stretch, walk the dogs, and then I'm out looking for a skate spot.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, that's what I heard. What was your first impression of. Of this hot mess over here?

[Danny Marie]

We were actually looking at photos today. I don't even. I mean, I don't. I mean, it's so hard to even say how it connected, but it was. I was invited by somebody who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know, and later found out wasn't the best crowd, But I showed up by myself. My friend Heather, call her out. She couldn't make it that day, but that's okay. I went alone and, you know, I didn't know anybody. And she sent me this text that was like, celebrities are here. I hate that, of course. But my mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself because I lived in Koreatown, couldn't find parking. It was a disaster. So to leave your house in Koreatown is a big deal. You have to take an Uber.

[Bunnie]

It's just anywhere in LA is a nightmare, dude.

[Danny Marie]

So I'm like, is it really worth going? Like, she's already dropped a celebrity name, like, who knows if. Whatever. So My mom's like, well, you didn't go to LA to stay in bed, blah, blah, blah. So she put a little in my ass.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

So I got dressed, put on my little LA hat, and then I went to the pool party. And of course, how some girls can be, they weren't, you know, being very friendly once. This one and I started talking. I do remember him coming kind of coming over, but I was alone, blindfolded, and just wasn't really wanting to date at the time. I just got out of something really shitty.

[Bunnie]

Did you know who he was?

[Danny Marie]

I remember like, they were like, bam, Margera's here. I'm like, bam. I'm like, you know, they're like, oh, jackass. Like, okay. But we are the same age, so it wasn't like I was really watching it every day, like, Right. I hate to bring up ridiculousness, but how it's like constantly on the tv, you know, like you can't get away from it. So I knew, but I didn't really know, you know, the whole story type of fam.

[Bunnie]

Right.

[Danny Marie]

So when we, when we interacted, you know, the girls as they know who they are, had kind of like pushed me towards him because they weren't being bullyish, but they weren't being friendly because the one girl had taken a shower with him the day before.

[Bunnie]

Oh, so did you even remember that? Bam.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, I did.

[Bunnie]

Okay. Because he was up. So you got it. I did a lot of when I was up that I don't remember, you

[Danny Marie]

know, so basically they just.

[Bunnie]

His face is turning three shades of red right now. I don't think I've ever seen you blush.

[Danny Marie]

He admitted it. I mean, he, at least he told me. And I'm like, okay, well, are y' all like dating? Because I'm single, It's la, like, whatever. And I just, we just had fun. Like we ended up going. I can't even tell you where. It was just some little place in la. It was like a strip club of some sort that was completely packed.

[Bunnie]

Were you using then or were you?

[Danny Marie]

So, no, I haven't. Okay, so we'll get into all that. But I was a drinker. I mean, I've had my share of things. I've been a model since I was 14, so I've definitely partied. Lived in Vegas, lived in LA. But for me, I won Miss Bikini. I went through. Okay, so 2019, I had an ankle surgery, which was mortifying. I lost my 14 year old dog and then a 10 year, almost 10 year relationship ended all within like A year. So I went through a really bad time. I was drinking a little too much, started drinking and then, you know, I started getting sick, like literally sick. And in the hospital it was getting alcohol poisoning is what was happening. I just didn't want to tell anybody that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening.

[Bunnie]

Because you're like binge drinking.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah. It was just like, you know, rose starts at 10:00am and then before you know it, it's 8:00 clock at night. And y', all, you know, it's just.

[Bunnie]

Sounds like a good time.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, bad. Just I was going down a bad, bad path. I was getting. After the breakup, I hung out with the wrong guy. He was younger than me and I started doing bad things again and then just really nipped it in the butt and just, just had to break up with a lot of people. So I ended up entering a bikini contest and didn't realize how intense it was, but I was already in it. I couldn't pull out. I wanted to because it was like I'd rather just have another cocktail and go, whatever. So I ended up placing fifth and I stayed serious that whole, like four months of training for the bikini. So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely. So I really haven't been drinking since 2021. But when I went out to LA, it was like a couple drinks here and there. But then I'd, you know, when you're not drinking, a couple drinks will get you buzzed.

[Bunnie]

Oh, absolutely.

[Danny Marie]

That was the day. Like I was in an effort. Mood it. Mood, whatever. So I was drinking at the pool that day.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

And we had a great time. The connection was obviously there because as a person, you know, and the alcohol helped me kiss him a little bit, you know, make out. Bandit. We were FaceTiming Jessica.

[Bam Margera]

She's still committed to the gym at 5am the next day and dropped a 40 pound weight on her toe. I broke that shit.

[Bunnie]

Oh my God.

[Danny Marie]

I like shattered the to and then I wake up the next day and I'm like, damn. I think I made out with Bam. Like I woke up like, the dogs are like, where were you for seven hours? So I was getting railed. Yeah. Feeling rough. And then I just, I remember like wanting him to call. Like I really wanted him to call. And I was like, oh, it's already 4 o'. Clock. He hasn't called yet. That's weird. So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Koreatown. And of course the phone Rings, and

[Bam Margera]

he's like, not from my phone because the stripper stole it as well as my credit card. So I called randomly from a number that had South Carolina area code, which is where she's from.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, I grew up in Charleston. So why 8:43? I'm like, where are you?

[Bunnie]

Bam. Bam got his. His card, stolen his phone.

[Danny Marie]

He was a hot mess. That.

[Bam Margera]

I don't even know if you know this, but then I. I saw this psychic lady who basically told me to be a yes man, say yes to everything. So I'm going to see my shot.

[Bunnie]

Oh, that's not. Don't tell Bam that.

[Bam Margera]

I pull in with. I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station and Vista to California because my phone died and I didn't know how to get to his house, so I had to charge it in in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up these M13 gangsters with their tattoos face and everything, they go, yo, you banned from jackets? I'm like, yeah. They're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes. They're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo? I'm like, yes. Yo, man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block, and we're cracking jokes, and I do not know this. I park at the gas station, knowing that my phone's still charging, and I'm like, hang on, guys. I leave the car running. I'm like, I gotta go get my phone. They're like, all right, cool. So I go in. I'm like, hey, ma', am, can I get my phone? Like. She's like, I gave it to your friend. I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here. She's like, I gave it to somebody, but you gave my phone away. I was forced to call 91 1. So three cop cars pull up, and I guess they were all larried up on whatever, but they thought it was for them. So they took my car as the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone. It had nothing to do with them. This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs. And apparently he had guns and drugs on him. So he took my car. I walk out. There's three helicopters in the sky, and I hear from officer Bentley. I'll never forget, Bentley's been crashed in the house. I'm like, awesome. And I didn't want to Press charges because I don't need these guys after me. I tagged that. I'm at the Vista skate park. Next thing you know, I'm getting drive by shooting. So ate the cash on that as well.

[Danny Marie]

I had no idea about that.

[Bunnie]

So why does. Why does. Why do you think this shit happens to you all the time, Bam?

[Bam Margera]

Because I listen to a lady say yes to everything that day.

[Bunnie]

There has to be some level of discernment in your gut, though. You got to be like, no, maybe I shouldn't be riding around with these guys, you know?

[Danny Marie]

Don't understand that one.

[Bam Margera]

It was just like, she just said it. So the first thing that. Just say yes to everything. Yo, Bam, can we get a phone? Yes.

[Bunnie]

What was her point in this? I would love to talk to her and just be like, what was your point? Why do you think telling Bam she's

[Bam Margera]

one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my card.

[Bunnie]

Oh, my gosh. So was she a stripper?

[Bam Margera]

No, she was a psychic. And then the stripper was next.

[Bunnie]

And then a buddy was the psychic in the strip club.

[Bam Margera]

He had a tiny bit. No, it was not.

[Bunnie]

Okay. Totally unrelated.

[Bam Margera]

My buddy was recording at sun studios in Memphis at Elvis's place. And he had a small bill to pay, like three grand. So I gave him my credit card information because the label was going to pay it back. He gets so drunk that night that he spends 20 grand on sunglasses and jackets on my card and doesn't remember doing it.

[Bunnie]

It sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people.

[Danny Marie]

He was.

[Bam Margera]

And he's so broke. I think he has a payment plan of, like, $50 a month, which will take eternity to pay off.

[Danny Marie]

Well, that's why you're attracted to Bam, because Bam is funny all of the time. So it's never a dull moment with. With him. And it was like that. You know, people always. You know, he's. When he's not drinking anymore, but he's just elevated, and it's just funnier that we want him drinking. But he's not like a bad drunk. I mean, he's fun. He just gets funnier.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

So that's where the attraction definitely happened. I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl or whomever you're with?

[Bunnie]

Yeah, that makes you smile. Oh, I love funny guys. That's why I married my husband.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah. So, like, he just. I just. We died rolling all night long, and I just remember, like, really wanting him to call the next day. And then once he called and said, do you want to go for pizza at the Rainbow Room. I'm like, the Rainbow Room has pizza? He's like, it's the best.

[Bunnie]

Jay's favorite fucking place. So forever in la, I'll call you guys. Because Jay, last time for the Grammys, he went and rented out the Rainbow Room and got faced and then swam in the pool or swam in the fountain at the Beverly Hill Hills, whatever the we were at.

[Bam Margera]

So. So on our first date, I was, I really wanted to know, but I was just doing small talk, you know, I'm like, I just gotta know, how are your teeth so perfectly. Wait. She's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick.

[Bunnie]

I'm like, I love you.

[Danny Marie]

That was after he had tortured me for two days.

[Bam Margera]

Know how to handle somebody like you and your.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah. I was like, I can keep up with you. So it was cute. It was just like the Rainbow Room pizza. And then honestly, Bunny, like, it just. I never left.

[Bunnie]

That's how it happens. That's how Jay and I were. Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection, it's just like, it's like fireworks. And you, you guys are just together.

[Bam Margera]

I was in my turmoil of being over and I was ready to just check out. I didn't care unless. Unless I, I knew she was the run right away and I asked what happened to her. She's like, I had to flee the scene in Miami. I was dating a professional baseball player who was very abusive. And I just packed up the dogs and I just. In LA was my destination. And you know, he saw a photo of like us and Us Weekly holding hands in a little tablet thing with a purple dress on. He's like, I'm coming out there, I'm gonna find you and like hunt you down. And this I, I believe that he died of a fentanyl overdose in Texas on the way here. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile.

[Bunnie]

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[Bam Margera]

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[Bunnie]

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[Bam Margera]

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[Bunnie]

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[Bam Margera]

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[Bunnie]

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[Bam Margera]

Yeah. So she just knew that if she stayed in that relationship, it was not going to end. Well.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, he wasn't a good guy.

[Bunnie]

How long were you guys together for?

[Danny Marie]

It was. It was. You know what? If we ever write a book, it'll just be the booty call gone bad. That's the worst. The first guy I slept with in nine years. So it was just like, wait, you

[Bunnie]

didn't have dick for nine years with somebody?

[Danny Marie]

Oh, okay. Gotcha, Gotcha.

[Bunnie]

Okay. I was like, wait a second, how did that work?

[Danny Marie]

But he was like. Like the first. After the la. After the x so it was just, you know, he was a professional baseball player and he just was, you know, rest his soul, because we don't want to send bad energy in or in the air. But he was like dating multiple women. Who.

[Bam Margera]

One of them, at the funeral, all the girls were like, who are you and why you here? Well, I'm her. For how long? Nine months. What about you? Nine years. What about you? Two years. What about you? Like, there's.

[Bunnie]

That's how, that's how athletes are, though. Athletes, musicians. Like, that's how, that's the whole, you know, that's the whole game that they play.

[Bam Margera]

It didn't wind up being one big brawl with a bunch of chicks.

[Danny Marie]

But yeah, he doesn't understand, like, sometimes the world doesn't understand that. I wasn't really happy in LA though, because if you go back to LA, no offense to LA, I love LA. I lived in LA when I was 19 to 20.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

And it's just changed.

[Bunnie]

It's. I always tell everybody Los Angeles has lost its sparkle.

[Danny Marie]

It really has. It really.

[Bunnie]

Back in 10, 15 years ago, that place was just like the glitter everywhere, you know? And now it's like it has no soul.

[Bam Margera]

And another thing is, like, no soul.

[Bunnie]

You.

[Bam Margera]

You could barely get a one bedroom, one bath with no land near the beach of Santa Monica for 4 million or whatever out here you could have 20 acres.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

If you're so obsessed with the beach, just buy a nice pool, put a sandbox next to it. Yeah. What a day.

[Bunnie]

Yeah. Are you guys gonna move to Nashville?

[Danny Marie]

We don't know what we're doing. We're just trying to figure out what the best place is.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

Because he needs to be close to Phoenix. Me, I just need great girlfriends, some water and some sun.

[Bunnie]

A. Well, there's not a lot of water and a lot, a lot of sun here. Except for in the summertime. I'm a Vegas girl. I'm a West coast girl too. It took a long time for me to get adjusted here, but once I did, Nashville is like la, but with a soul. And it's like your peace. Like, it's like everybody here is just so sweet and welcoming and loving and hospitality so healing.

[Bam Margera]

That's what I love about little towns like this. And in Westchester, Pennsylvania, if you're a bartender, you're just simply happy being a bartender. If you're one in Los Angeles, you are just simply trying to make ends meet.

[Danny Marie]

And you're.

[Bam Margera]

Until your big break of becoming a model or an actor or whatever it is. And everybody's so fake that. I. I just did a test with a friend because we were at a party. I'm like, just watch this. Yo, Ben. What are you up to? Oh, I'm actually got to do Jimmy Kimmel because Jackass 2's coming out, which was true. And they're like, dude, we got to work together. Next person that comes. Yo, Ben, what are you up to? I actually just flew myself out here with my own money, and I'm kind of looking for work. You got anything going on? Good talking to you, pal. Like, if. If you're up to something, they all want to be a part of it, and if you're not, then it's just. It's really fake town is what it is.

[Bunnie]

No, it is. It is.

[Bam Margera]

It's.

[Bunnie]

It's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years. So let's circle back to how are Phil and April doing? How's your relationship with them?

[Bam Margera]

Well, I just realized that right now, it's just a good time to just back off and. And. And time. Because they were a part of the whole treatment thing. Like, I got a guardian just like Britney Spears, and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key. Put him in treatment. Put him in treatment. And I knew that was not the way.

[Bunnie]

That's the Lima girl.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

And, like, Lima.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah. And her last client, Amanda, she. She faked the autopsy report. They did research and found out that she. She died in the care of her own hands, of having a seizure. And I've never had a seizure in my life until I met her. I went into five of them in a row. In the last one, I couldn't breathe on my own. I woke up eight days later on a life support tube with COVID and pneumonia.

[Bunnie]

That's wild.

[Bam Margera]

So, like, all I knew is I. I had to. Once you get Marchman acted or Baker acted, it usually happens. In Florida, that means that you have to do 90 days in treatment. And if the interventionalist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity. So because I'm like, 88 days in, and I'm like, I get two in two more days, I get out. Hip, hip, hooray. Then he walks in. He's like, you've been broken those same shorts for, like, days now. I'm like, yeah, I'm not trying to get any around here. I don't care. They're like, that's bad hygiene. You're doing another 90 days at another place. Then I'll do 88 days at another place, flick the cigarette out into a bush. They filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke. It was not on fire. Like you could lit the whole national forest on fire. You're doing another 90 days at another place. They just kept doing it and doing it and doing it.

[Danny Marie]

And it's called body snatching.

[Bunnie]

Basically.

[Danny Marie]

That's the insurance. Yeah. Let's toss you through.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

You know, and I realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out there. They will find. Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Oh, yeah. Once you're in the system.

[Bam Margera]

So I did everything right. You know, we're going to keep you here for another 90 day. For what? I've done everything you've asked. I've been here for two and a half years. Get me the out. And when I did got out, I appreciated life a lot more. I'm like. I'm in a car. It's a convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a Starbucks outside talking to you.

[Danny Marie]

Just the music.

[Bam Margera]

They can't even hear the music. I had no interweb, no music, no tv. A little bit of tv, but it was just terrible.

[Bunnie]

Well, let's. Let's rewind so you feel like. You feel like April and Phil had something to do with the. Is it. Was it a conservatorship that you had?

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, I guess. Guardian. Enlighten. But.

[Bunnie]

But did they hire the Guardian?

[Danny Marie]

So basically, she got hired from.

[Bam Margera]

From Nikki's brother. They all teamed up on me and. And said that he needs to go away for a long, long time. They talked my parents into it by like, saying, yeah, $500,000 is a lot of money, but if you don't write this check, you're gonna be real sorry when he's six feet in the ground, you know, making her. My mom feel really bad about it. So she just got talked into this. And then Lima has such a nice voice that she could pretty much con anybody into anything.

[Bunnie]

Is she an interventional? What do they call those?

[Danny Marie]

She tried to, like, create rehabs and stuff. If you look up her. I try not to talk about her too much because she's listening to everything. And I don't care if she hears me today. It's about time she does.

[Bunnie]

But it's. If you're.

[Bam Margera]

I would have been dead if I would have kept doing what she was making. And she was making me say things like, I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact. It's called a shuffle. She's like, man, there's no such thing as a Florida cycle. You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about. And I really went on. She, like, forced me to do it. Like, hey, guys, I know I was talking about the Florida Shuffle, but I don't know anything about it or what I was talking about. And I was not in the Florida Shuffle whatsoever.

[Danny Marie]

Lies.

[Bam Margera]

How did she get definitely in the Florida Shuffle? I was in 13 different treatment centers at 90 days a piece, and one of them was 250 and 20. It's called a shuffle. They kept me in there for why? For no reason. I already know the alcohol is good, and it's not any bad. What do I have to do at the next class? Learning alcohol is bad. It's not any good. I'm very aware of that. What are you going to do when you get out? I'm going to sip on a white claw because all y'.

[Danny Marie]

All.

[Bunnie]

So Nikki's. Nikki and her brother hired this girl.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Okay. This woman. And she came in and pretty much just, like, took over your life and completely. 5150.

[Bam Margera]

The answer to everything is, yeah, 5150 me. And you know, is what hurts the most is that this chick, very good friend of mine, bj investigates. It's also called the Surprise Witness. She does a podcast.

[Danny Marie]

Surprise.

[Bam Margera]

She. She decided to buy every 911 call of me, or did. I've done body. Body cam footage. Every document, every house I bought and sold, every car. She just wanted everything. Why? Because she just wanted to find out the truth. She knows that something shady was going on, and. And she. When we looked at the body cam footage, my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it. I'm, like, hiding in a hotel. And then all of a sudden, the police show up. I'm like, are you in on. My mom's like, bam. I have no idea. I have no idea about it. Then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away, she's talking to the cops like. Like, they fudgeing arranged this.

[Danny Marie]

Well, the aunt, Missy, or whoever she is, was like, tell him I'm not here. When you watch it, you'll cry. I can't watch it because it shows betrayal from family, and I can't watch it. I was crying through, like, the third one. And BJ is a very good friend of ours. They don't like her because she's speaking the truth.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

And she's uncovered things that he was too up to realize.

[Bam Margera]

And. And you can't deny physical body cam proof, which is what she has and documented proof. So she doesn't. BJ doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, she does, because she's also implemented in the court of law.

[Danny Marie]

She's a lawyer.

[Bam Margera]

She's a lawyer.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

So, okay, circling back. I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment, but that betrayal has got to be traumatic. Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

And if. If my mom is able to say that for a whole year, she's like, bam. I swear, I. I had no idea about it. And then a year later, BJ got the body cam footage. I'm like, what do you have to say about this? Well, bam. We didn't know what to do. It's like. But. But you lied to me for a whole year. Like, I think you even swore on your whatever's. You know what I mean?

[Bunnie]

Like, yeah. What, were you using a lot then?

[Bam Margera]

No, because I was in treatment for two years. But as soon as I would get out, the first thing I wanted to do was that. Because I had no reason to stop. My kid has been taken away from me, and they have no plans on arranging me a visit. I'm paying rent for my girlfriend's place, and I said, if you move to Burbank near your brainwashing brother, I'm leaving you for good. So I'm like, I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix, on the planet, except there. So I sent the money. I'm like, congratulations, you. I heard you got a place. Where is it? She's like, burbank. I'm like, like, all right, I'm leaving you. And she thought that I was fibbing, but, like, I. There. The only reason it made me stop right here. She gave me the perfect ultimatum. Her puss. Wire the vodka. I really like vodka, but I'm not gonna go with that. I'm gonna go with the first option. And her stretch in an hour a day is so effective. Anytime I was sore back in the day, I'm like, man, I'm sore. I need a massage. I should have got a stretch coach.

[Bunnie]

Ah.

[Danny Marie]

I just want to go back to, like, the. Just because the family and everything, because we could talk all day. We all probably have ADHD in this room, but I. The thing that I noticed when we got together is. And I'm going to say it, because this is the honesty day today is. I've never had a chance to talk to the world, so what I experienced in the beginning would be devastating to me, because whatever issue you have, your family's supposed to be the Ones that you can count on and your friends. So when you see a situation like Brittany and now and Bamboo, it's. It's the money. I worked for a piece of shit who was in the Florida Shuffle. His name's Joe McBratney. I dare him to come for me. He owes me 900. But, like, he was in the Florida Shuffle, and he was sleeping with these girls. Like, I. I'm a.

[Bunnie]

What was he.

[Danny Marie]

He was. He was an owner of a rehabilitation center. So the. The definition of the Florida Shuffle, where Bam was. Which his parents seem to be in denial at times, is that they will just. Just take you and then say, you and I have one. It's like, hey, Bam's about to get out, so let's get them up. So they'll let. They would let the girls.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, because if they let you out and you have a couple days left, they're hoping that you relapse so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance purposes.

[Danny Marie]

So they would let the girls go out and then say. I'd say, hey, you know, Haley's over on 10th street in Delray. Go get her. And then you would keep her for 30 days, and we would split the hundred thousand dollars, and that's how it goes. And that's what he was in. So when you have someone like our men here that have money, it's just a constant, constant shuffle. So when I saw some of the body cam, I was, like, pretty disturbed that people that were calling my phone, brand new, trying to get a hold of him, that I'm realizing don't want to call me either.

[Bam Margera]

Right.

[Danny Marie]

Because they just wanted to get to him. There's just a lot of facts out there that show that they just wanted to keep him there.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

And if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead or he would have just been in the Florida shop.

[Bam Margera]

Sure. And these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben. And an ambulance took him out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep, and they pronounced him dead. And they. I woke up and I overhear everybody saying, like, hey, where's Big Ben? He left. And. And all the staff members were like, oh, he moved along to a different facility. I'm a different facility. Yeah. The morgue. He's deader than. They pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him.

[Bunnie]

That's got to be traumatic.

[Bam Margera]

But this whole place is trained. They were. They. They taught everybody to say that he moved along to a different. A different facility. Yeah. The Mortgage debt.

[Bunnie]

That's got to be traumatic also, having your roommate die right now.

[Bam Margera]

They put me in. I had to go in on Under Jackass Rules with Paramount that I read about and pay for it. So I'm going in on Adderall and alcohol, which I had a prescription for. And I go in. I'm on more drugs than I've ever have. I was a zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry or come. They put me on by propion. Propanolol, lithium, Latuda, Trazodone, Seroquil, every Wellbutrin and abilify known to man.

[Danny Marie]

But.

[Bam Margera]

But you could say, like, hey, bam, you're a cat. Oh, my cat died. Neat. You know, hey, Angelina's over there naked and she wants to have at it. Oh, she does? Cool. Like, I was just numb. I had no feelings whatsoever. I was better out at the Irish pubs cracking jokes on Adderall and alcohol rather than all that.

[Bunnie]

Do you feel like they keep people over medicated in these places so that they can control them?

[Bam Margera]

That's of course, that. And they. And the doctor probably gets a big kickback on writing all these prescriptions. If. If they leave. If you leave on nothing, then they lose a client.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

Oh, he's good to go. Well, it looks like we don't need him anymore. No, they want you forever to be on their. What did it do? Nothing. I. They said. They diagnosed me with manic bipolar. And then they said, are you depressed? I go, I don't know if I am depressed. It's because I'm now too. I'm top heavy and I can't skateboard how I used to. So they give me all these new prescriptions and I'm eating salads in there and I'm like, gaining weight. I'm like, that's it. So I type in Depakote number one weight gaining pills, Zyprexa number one weight gaining bill. I'm like, doc, why would you give me a weight gaining pill if. If I told you I'm depressed because I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be. He's like, well, it's an antidepressant. Well, if I keep getting fatter, I'm gonna be more depressed. You.

[Bunnie]

He.

[Bam Margera]

I had.

[Bunnie]

They. They literally just give you a pill for everything. That's why I won't take any medication. I barely even want to take a leave, like around my period because it just. And medications are just. They're like a band aid and they don't help you. They don't heal you.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

If anything, you get strung out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of your life.

[Bam Margera]

Exactly. And I did learn this. The interventionist, Steve Timmer, was on the body cam footage. And if you tell the police, don't listen to a word he says. He's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic, you could be like, hey, please. If you look right there and just lean your head over, you will find a dead body. Yeah, yeah. You're not. No, no. Just take two steps and take a look. Yeah, you're schizophrenic. You don't know what you're talking about. Like, no, just take two steps and look like. They just. Do not believe anything. As soon as you say schizophrenic, don't believe a word.

[Danny Marie]

It's actually one of the body cams. You can hear one of the cops go. He's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone. Now, that I'm very good friends with Paul, and Paul said it was devastating. But you can hear the one cop go, oh, he's just gonna. Schizophrenic. Don't worry about, like. It's something in that manner of, like, don't pay attention to anything he says.

[Bunnie]

Did they diagnose you with schizophrenia?

[Danny Marie]

He doesn't even know.

[Bam Margera]

No.

[Danny Marie]

He's like, I think.

[Bam Margera]

I think just wanted to see me get arrested and go back to a mental institution.

[Danny Marie]

What? Stepdad was schizophrenic? He ain't schizophrenic. Yeah.

[Bunnie]

What are your diagnosis?

[Bam Margera]

So out of the 13 places I've been to, I think two of them diagnosed me with manic bipolar. The other 11 says that I'm not. That every time I go to a new treatment center, which would be every 90 days, they'd be like. Like, they have you on this, that, and the other thing and this, this. What kind of cocktail is this? We've never seen anything like that. I'm like, they said that they were the best of the best. No, we're the best of the best. And you're gonna be on this, that, and the other thing now and switch it up. Then I go to another place. They're big. What did that place put you on? This is the craziest cocktail I've ever seen. I'm like, well, they said they were the best of the best. And that place, that was the best but said that they sucked. I'm like, you're all idiots.

[Danny Marie]

Minus the only one that wasn't an idiot that we just happen to run into. How. And Angels come Back around is his. And I'm gonna say her name is Anne Marie. We were just in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, and she hasn't seen this person in so long. And there's a table we usually set up with the Duffs. The Duffs. This is Ed Duff rides for Tony's

[Bam Margera]

Hawk and Vera restaurant in the back room. She was just sitting there. I'm like, what? My therapist. What are you doing? She was there for a different.

[Bunnie]

She's your original therapist.

[Bam Margera]

And she was the only one that I listened to and loved everybody else. And that's another thing. I just spill my guts to a whole new therapist out. I had 13 therapists in the past two years. So it's like, here we go again. I got to spill my whole guts out to every another person and get nowhere because I'm just going to leave again and going to give me another.

[Danny Marie]

Okay, you be quiet for one minute. So she basically. We just ran into her, though. And so she was one of the only ones that told me personally that she didn't want to do what companies were making him do the Paramount thing and everything, that she didn't want him on all these things. So they didn't want. They didn't like her because she wasn't following the poisonous rules.

[Bunnie]

Right.

[Danny Marie]

So somehow they lost contact. We're going to meet Pamela for dinner. We walk in this restaurant to go to Pamela's table, and she's sitting there. She's in this beautiful pink suit. I'm like, who's this bombshell? Where's Pamela? And then they're, like, almost crying because they haven't seen each other in so long. So I just want to say, like, there was one good one, but she was too good to make it because they want good to go away.

[Bunnie]

They want to feed the system.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah. So if I stop taking the 18 medications, then I don't get the 5 million that I usually get on a Jackass movie because I broke my contract. So I stopped taking it, though. Looks like you broke your contract. I'm like, yeah, what's the point? What's the point of getting $5 million if I'm dead? Yeah, because that's what was gonna happen if I kept taking that.

[Danny Marie]

But if you read about Brittany, they say how they open your mouth. They make you swallow the pills. So it was like, they're making.

[Bunnie]

Didn't you have to like sit on face times with them and taking medication

[Bam Margera]

every day, all day, only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator. And I would just go back to bed. I, I was like, basically just dead inside. I wasn't dead already.

[Danny Marie]

They did it to him again recently when I went to go pick him up. That's like another part of the family, like. And now that I can talk about it, you know, everyone is aware that it happened fast. But when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever

[Bam Margera]

and he was like, I'm going to Nobu to bang bowl.

[Danny Marie]

I was like, you are.

[Bam Margera]

Don't do that.

[Danny Marie]

I like you. So then I met my best friend Heather's. I'm like, do you really think he's gonna go to Nobu and do that? She's like, I don't think so. And then two hours later, he's like, bam.

[Bam Margera]

Knocking on her door.

[Danny Marie]

La Brea in Hollywood. And I'm like, all right, we're dating. It's over. Don't do that again to me. I'm stressed out. But, you know, when he had to go to court was when it was a reality check. He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court? And it was a really big deal. But I didn't know that he wasn't coming back.

[Bam Margera]

So they kept, I didn't know either. So, so it was because I had a little tiff with my brother. I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio. He got Princess soundboard from Paisley park. And, and I knew that I would be in treatment. And, and once I got out, I was going to go to California to hike with the shaman to lose all his weight. So I came home, didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home. So instead of like, hey, welcome back. It was more like, so when are you leaving? Use when I'm leaving. So we got a little tiff about that. I, I, I read his phone on a three way conversation with the people that were working in the studio at my house, saying we did not know Bam would be home. He's ruining our program. We need to get him back to California ASAP or 5150 and for no reason, just to not. So I ripped off the first thing I saw, which is signed Billy Idol guitar and, and either smashed it with him or on the kitchen, whatever. And then I told his girlfriend who was trying to rescue a cat, she fell off the ladder and Shattered her heel. So I said I'd put a bear trap on her other foot, knowing that I don't own a bear trap and I certainly didn't fly in with one. So I got a terroristic death threat charge of a bear trap and I put my hand in one in Jackass too. And it didn't even break. So cool your goddamn jets, everyone.

[Bunnie]

That's gotta be so hurtful that the people that you are supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you. It's almost like they're just.

[Bam Margera]

Just. It's the little things that piss me off. Villa Vallo, from him is my favorite band. So I have a big picture, right? As soon as you walk in, there's a piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with like a. You know, just super disrespectful. And then I just bought Phoenix a little blue Lamborghini car. Special car that I left because when I got arrested on the manhunt, when they called the police on me to 5150 me, I left that car there because I got locked up. He could just put it right in the house. It got so sun dried that it's gray. It's not even worth giving it to him anymore.

[Bunnie]

What is your relationship with Nikki now?

[Bam Margera]

There isn't one. Yeah, the lawyers. She. She lawyered up with a lawyer. Which was completely ridiculous because we're not married. We got married. It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you. You have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So thank God on that, weren't we? So she's trying to tell the. The lawyer that her name is Nicole Margera. That name does not exist on paper. It doesn't exist on the planet of Earth. So I was giving her five grand a month out of the kindness of my own heart for support. I'm like, I'm being more than fair. And then finally we went to court with her getting a lawyer. And the judge was like, you only get 500amonth. You're not even married. So I'm like, you should have been happy with the five grand. Now I've given 200 grand to my lawyer, and your lawyer wants me to pay for him too. All the money has gone to the lawyers. Congratulations. Over a matter we could have figured out in one second. When's a better FaceTime for Phoenix? High noon on Wednesday or is Tuesday better? But they always say we're still working on it. So if you send me another 50 grand, we'll still Be working on it. Yeah. You're gonna work on it for eternity till my bank's run dry.

[Bunnie]

So you aren't in Phoenix's life right now or you are.

[Bam Margera]

It's still, it's still an issue. Apparently I get to see him once every weekend, but I'm fully booked with these Comic Cons every weekend to pay these legal fees.

[Danny Marie]

It's working out though, like they have, you know. Right. Unfortunately, just to speak on this subject, I, you know, push him all. I come from a divorced family. I have daddy issues right now. I'm pissed at him right now. But it'll work out. And Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad. Dad's. Dad's famous, so dad's busy and he's doing better than ever and he'll be okay. You know, it's just getting on a schedule so they can see each other and spend time. Right now it's monitored. So that's been a little hard on him. But, you know, you got to prove to the system that you're not a nut ball. Even though he's kind of crazy. But I told him just to do his part. They're going to be just fine.

[Bam Margera]

It almost doesn't even matter. If a decade went by like, like, hey, do you know, can Bam see Phoenix now? Because it's been 10 years and he's been sober as a judge. Well, he'll probably just relapse. I know him, you know, there's nothing I could do to win on this matter.

[Danny Marie]

And unfortunately, he's been so up and down that they're. I don't think that they believe this. I think that I'm a flyby girlfriend and.

[Bunnie]

Right.

[Danny Marie]

Some people think I'm here for the fame. I'm famous in my own way. I don't need it.

[Bam Margera]

You know, it's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah. You know, skateboard.

[Bam Margera]

If I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a Paw Patrol poster, I'm crying my eyes out. If I even go past a playground and I see kids playing, it's like that's all I want to do. But I have to have a supervised visit from the Supreme Court with a microphone on. Just. It's like I've been living at the Black Rifle Coffee Compound with a little 8 year old and a 10 year old. How come I get to live there and play with them all day, but when it comes to my own kid, I. I have to have a Supreme Court visit with a microphone and people Filming me just to make sure I don't do anything wrong. What am I gonna do wrong?

[Danny Marie]

But my sister is not famous and she had to go through this and she just. In Georgia has like. And he won 51%. And my sister is an angel. She has to pay child support. So they have a good connection. And he knows he's not alone. There's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their kids. Whether you're famous and have money or broken have nothing. And they're fighting for no reason. Reason when it should just be about the child. So I support him 100 and he knows that.

[Bam Margera]

I don't even know what school he goes to. I don't even know where he lives, even though I'm paying for it. I don't even know anything about him, what friends he has, what he even likes, what cartoons he likes. Don't know anymore because everything has to go through the lawyer. And it's just such a pain in the ass.

[Bunnie]

Is Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship with you so that you guys can. Can I think together?

[Bam Margera]

When a girl is scorned, then all they see is fire in their eyes and Babylon's burning and it's gonna burn your house down. There's nothing you could do to save it, right? It's just there's.

[Danny Marie]

It's hard and the kid's young, so just I think right now, like me personally, I just. Like I said, I come from a, you know, divorced family and, you know, it's all about him and Phoenix. It's not about her. It's not about me. It's not about April and Phil. It's about those to and you know,

[Bam Margera]

everybody on her end, they're here. In her one sided story, she's probably going around saying, bam. Left me high and dry and he gives me only 400amonth. Yeah, I was giving you five until the judge said you're only getting four. And I gave it all my money to lawyers when I begged you not to get one because we don't need that. So it's all gone anyway. There's nothing to divide anymore. You know, the lawyers started from scratch and I love it this that way. So now if we want to get a house, we pick out our own furniture. We do it. I like starting from. I've never been more happy in my life on this great adventure of just going from spot to spot, meeting new people, coming up with new deals. New what, whatever. It's great sounds when you date a

[Danny Marie]

boss you know, in.

[Bam Margera]

In a vicious circle of the hair of the dog, I wake up. Oh, I feel like from drinking. But if I have a drink, I'm gonna feel pretty. Pretty good. And if I have another one, I'm gonna feel even better. If I have a third one, I'll feel great, too. Next thing you know, you wake up. Oh, I feel like. But if I have a beer, it's a cycle.

[Danny Marie]

Why do they call it Hair of the dog?

[Bunnie]

I've never understood that.

[Bam Margera]

The dog that bit you.

[Danny Marie]

But why? The dog hair doesn't bite.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, I like dog hair. I've never understood that saying. Me neither.

[Danny Marie]

But I use the method often in the past.

[Bunnie]

It sounds to me like you have found some sort of purpose.

[Bam Margera]

Yes.

[Bunnie]

And that's what's driving you, and that's exciting to you, because even though you have done everything that you've done, it, it almost, like, seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to appreciate it.

[Bam Margera]

Exactly.

[Danny Marie]

Like, amen.

[Bam Margera]

I mean, I start made my own video at the age of 16, and through word of mouth, sold over a million copies without even putting an ad in anything. Just mom and pop. Skate shops were selling it, and everybody said, you need to see this video. So then I did another one. And then that's when Jackass found me. I was the first person to ever ride for Nike. And when Element put out my skateboards, they also put out bam. Wallets, Bam. Sunglasses, Bam. Everything. And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine, I already had all this bam stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff. So I was clocking Mega Bang bank, and every wish that I had, any goal that I set would come true quicker than my deadline date.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

And. And I ran out of goals.

[Bunnie]

I feel like you made Jackass, though, because you already had, like, a little mini empire with CKY before even getting on to Jack. I knew who you were before Jackass. Everybody knows that.

[Danny Marie]

All the fans really say that.

[Bunnie]

Like, people who really grew up with you because you raised some of us, you know, like, we grew up with you. And you were like. You were pretty much like one of the first real content creators, if you think about it, like, really influencer or whatever the fuck they want to call

[Bam Margera]

it, living in Pennsylvania, and he's the hottest. That's when Tremaine and Knoxville, they would be in. In Los Angeles making all these secret deals. Then they do a fucking documentary about how Jackass got created and talking about Big Brother the whole time. And at the very tail end probably about 5%. Oh, yeah, and then Ben was doing CKY in Pennsylvania. If you do the math, I sold millions of copies. You barely sold sold 20,000 copies of Big Brother's video called Poop and Tit and Crap.

[Danny Marie]

I don't even know.

[Bunnie]

I've never even heard of that. Yeah, I know exactly. I know who CKY is. Never heard of that.

[Bam Margera]

I have learned how to forgive and be happy, and I deleted anybody that's given me a problem. But I just want to take my anger out on one person. Jeff Tremaine's too much of a Knoxville. Get into a ring with me, take off your box of clubs. 1, 2, 3, you're fucking done for.

[Bunnie]

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[Bam Margera]

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[Bunnie]

So you're still really angry and hurt with Knoxville.

[Bam Margera]

Put me through hell, made me pay all this treatment money, and they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment, so they already set me up to fail, and then. And then as soon as I do the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid a hundred grand to go to treatment, only for me to up, and then now I'm not in the movie. They had it all planned out. And I think that Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action Action Point in South Africa, and they had a 15 million dollar budget, and he tried to do it without us, and it was a flop. They only made $2 million. So when that happens, the label says you're not free to go. You're either gonna have to pay this back or put your house up for sale or do a jackass five. Well, if Bam's not in it, then that's already 6 million. $5 million that we don't have to pay back. So we could already say he's a liability because he's drunk out in front of a hotel room on tmz. Yeah, well, on Jackass, too. I got a high five for good press when I got a felony charge having branch knuckles at the LAX airport drunk as hell.

[Danny Marie]

That's all what they need from you at the time.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, but now I'm a liability. You guys.

[Danny Marie]

I'm just gonna say on that note, since we skipped right forward to that. You know, it's funny how recently my DMS and phone calls and text messages, I'm gonna let them all know right now to stop texting him.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, and if you double dog Knoxville to do any stunt, oh, I'm so brave, I'll have to do it. Why triple dog, dare you step into a ring with me? You're done for. You're over.

[Bunnie]

When you say your DMS and stuff like that. Who's DMing you and calling?

[Danny Marie]

Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say, you know, Novak reached out, but I don't even know who he is. So I don't want to get involved with their relationship. I have a 30 year friendship relationship and no one will get involved in that either, you know, so Brandon was

[Bunnie]

around during the cky days too, wasn't he?

[Bam Margera]

And you know, I, I've helped him with over a dozen treatment centers. I rescued him, over a dozen overdoses at the hospital. I've paid for all of his mistakes and I don't want any of that money back now that he's doing good. But like, he stole my S55 Mercedes $125,000 car when I was in Germany, high on pills to go get more pills. Wrecked into the dean's car. Westchester fleet the scene. They tried to charge me over until I proved I was in Germany. But he says you always got to take accountability for your actions. All right, well, you owe me a fucking car. You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware, driving around in your Range Rover. You owe me a car.

[Danny Marie]

But even just recently, like I went because I go through his phone. So anybody who's texting, watch. I read everything because I'm allowed to. And if I need to change the number, I will because there's nobody allowed. But our little small circle right now,

[Bunnie]

which is probably what's keeping him safe and sober.

[Danny Marie]

You can't have any of that. And I've gone through the phone and I saw the message of like, let's go to the sausage castle and you can knock me out. I love Mike, but I'm like. And Mike Busey was, was, wasn't the one texting. But you know Steve, I was asking him to like punch him. Like we're not. What are you talking like we're doing? He's doing great. Like, you should probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing instead of doing something that would benefit you.

[Bam Margera]

And that's why I like just putting my phone down. I like to just leave alone right now. We spend all day, every day, like we are such a powerhouse team that she takes better photos than most of the people on Thrash.

[Danny Marie]

Those are all my pictures of the screen.

[Bam Margera]

I tell her where the angle is, we get, she stretches me beforehand and it's. We just have like a perfect day that I don't need any phone calls interrupting the flow of that. And you know, everybody asked me like, if they did another jackass, would you Want to be? Hell, no. It is done. Tremaine has ruined the legacy. It was supposed to be a tribute to Ryan Dunn. Now he puts these new Hee Haw heads in there, and.

[Danny Marie]

And it's too many balls. Like, why are we stapling balls the whole time? It was very disturbing.

[Bam Margera]

And all he does is sit behind the count. The Cameron say, get hurt in action. Poopies got bitten by a fucking shark. He could have died. And the movie made $150 million in the box office, and apparently he got, like, less than 40 grand. You can't even buy a Datsun with a used tire on with that kind of money. Meanwhile, yeah, you had a Hyundai, but you had to sign a contract on Jackass for everybody could get fucked with at any given moment. Except for Tremaine. Because he's the director. No, because he's a.

[Bunnie]

So, circling back to Stevo, I had a conversation with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast, and Jay just did his podcast, and I told him that you were coming on, and he said that he is. I can't. I'd have to look at the text message. But so much I think he said around the. Like, he's hurt. He's reached out to you, and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response.

[Danny Marie]

I won't let him respond right now. So he could be mad at me, but that's okay.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

Maybe when I get to know a little bit more of the situation. Right now, my focus is his mental health and my relationship. Like, I've only been with this person for eight months, and it went public kind of immediately, which I can handle. But, you know, right now, they don't know him anymore. Right now, this person is on a whole new chapter. That's not about counting days. It's not about how, you know, it's about. He's changed, he's turned a page. And if. If those friendships can survive, then that's great. But right now, I love Stevo.

[Bam Margera]

When the time is right, we'll talk and everything's cool. But, I mean, like, I did his tour. He asked me to go on tour to do open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission. Everything was success. I didn't drink, like, how he asked. And. And then I find out that he puts all my money in a Phoenix Wolf trust fund when he turns 18. I'm like, I earned that money. Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it on alcohol or drug, drugs. It doesn't matter. I did the work. Pay me. And it's, it's not like I need your money. I have a couple bank accounts. I could just go right to the store and get some. But, like, you're not at liberty to be starting a Phoenix. The Wolf trust fund. And he gets it when he's 18.

[Bunnie]

It's that it sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and tired of people making decisions for you.

[Bam Margera]

Making decisions for me. And I, I, I can't even trust, you know, I, it's just hard to trust anybody. I don't know what their real agenda is. Is.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

That's heavy. To not be able to trust anybody like that.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

I always say friendships are meant to be. Like, they will. Right. I mean, they've known each other really long time.

[Bam Margera]

Bubble of friends.

[Danny Marie]

That, that, that right now is, you

[Bam Margera]

know, we have a perfect circle of tight friends, and I'm not going to let anybody dent it anymore.

[Bunnie]

Right.

[Bam Margera]

Viva Lavam. I let in so many friends that a bubble just bursted.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

And you, when you keep giving everybody your phone number, then you start talking, then you start forgetting to talk about the important ones. There was a point where my manager, Terry Arty, was so great, he would get me commercials to do Right Guard for a million dollars of one day of work.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

And now I'm pawning off his phone calls to a friend of a friend because I don't have time to answer it now, which I've highly regret doing. You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like, yeah, he, he had this movie ready for me to go. I was too hungover to make the flight. And because of that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what? Enough is enough. I can't. I just had a lot of money on the line for you to be producing this movie in Hollywood, and you were just too hung over to get on the flight. Well, I'm done.

[Bunnie]

I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunities because you didn't know, like, you literally grew up doing this. So to you, it was just like, oh, another deal.

[Bam Margera]

I'll get another $1,000 to spend a week for 65 weeks.

[Bunnie]

That's unheard of. They would never give somebody a budget like that. Now.

[Danny Marie]

That's unheard of.

[Bam Margera]

Our meetings at MTV would be bonkers. It's like, so what do you Want to do this week. And I. Most people be like, is this guy crazy? I'll be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue? And then we'll have an elephant come in and we'll make the outside a moat with a drawbridge. And then I'll keep wrecking Don Vito, my uncle's car, until he gets fed up and drives my R.I.P.

[Bunnie]

don Vito.

[Bam Margera]

Boom. Done. Real.

[Danny Marie]

Now he saves elephants.

[Bunnie]

Circling back to you and Ryan Dunn's relationship. Let's focus on that for a little bit. You guys were like best of friends.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Take me on that journey with you guys.

[Bam Margera]

Well, we met in. I was in ninth grade. He was in 11th at East High School in Westchester, Pennsylvania. He just moved from Cleveland, Ohio. And he was just such a character. He was. He didn't know how to skateboard and he knew that I was making the CKY video. And he became a part of the crew just because he would be the guy to do the gnarly thing that everybody would back out on. You know, he's big. So. So what does everybody put out on to get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three story building into this pricker bush? Just give me a shot of crown royal. Let's get it done and over with. So. So he would be like, we call a random hero because he would always save the day. And. And we did everything together. Anytime we did an MTV interview, he would always be right there. If I started trailing off or, you know, he would always take over. So to find out that he got in a car accident, it was very devastating because I never had anybody die that I was close to. And I never knew what it felt like. It was always like, hey, did you hear aunt Audrey from Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh died. I'm like, who? We had Thanksgiving dinner with her five Thanksgiving. All right, whatever. Are you gonna go to the funeral? I guess if I have to. I don't know. So anybody that died until then, I never knew. I didn't.

[Bunnie]

You never knew a pain.

[Bam Margera]

But then when that. It hit so hard to the point where I remember we were in. Outside of Phoenix, Arizona. I was doing an appearance the next day, and we were in the woods having a campfire. You could see all the stars. And I'm. I'm like, man, I am really happy right now. I couldn't be happier. Then all of a sudden I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do. I'm like, I don't know. I'm Just mad. And I don't know why. I just don't know why. Turns out he wrecked at 12:28 in Pennsylvania, and I smashed the window at 9:28 in Phoenix. So it's like we had such a connection that I knew something bad happened, and I didn't know what until I found out the next next morning.

[Bunnie]

It's like. It was like he was one. Like a soulmate.

[Danny Marie]

Like, he wanted you to know.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, soulmate. Soulmates can be your friends too. It's not always a romantic link.

[Bam Margera]

And my mom would always tell him, like, you get these fast cars with these fast engines. You're gonna get into a wreck. He's like, yeah, a fiery wreck. And that's how. And that's how it happened. He wrecked. He flipped me in a car eight times into oncoming traffic. When I was 16 years old. In. In school, he. He was doing a radio. He was installing radios, and he's like, hop in the car. I got this Jetta worth

[Danny Marie]

down a little, so.

[Bam Margera]

So we were flying 110 miles per hour. Somebody caught us off. We slid for so long like a football field. As soon as we hit the grass in the median, we started flipping into oncoming traffic. My brother got flown out on the last flip. He was 40ft in, like a moat. I could see his feet sticking out. And when I saw him, he was just like. A helicopter had to come get him out. I had a big softball on my head from bashing the window out on the first flip. But I gotta thank Chris Rab, because he was sitting next to me, and he put my seat belt on, and I ejected. I said, I'm not a. And then he put it on again, and then we flipped instantly after the second time he put it on.

[Bunnie]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when you started spiraling?

[Bam Margera]

Hell, yeah. Because I was so lost that I didn't know what to do. It's like, well, now we can't make a CKY video. If we do another jacket, it won't be the same.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

And instead of, like, drinking as a celebration, it was just drinking to forget. Right. And it became a real problem, and I didn't even know it. I would always. I was always that guy. To go, you know, 90 days and be like, all right, you know, we're going to Ruth Chris Steakhouse tonight. I could have one wine for dinner.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

It might be one wine that night for dinner, but the next day I'm gonna have two. The next day, it's gonna be two bottles and then I'm out looking for drugs. Drugs. It always happens that way.

[Danny Marie]

And getting your phone still over a

[Bam Margera]

baked dozen of tries to realize that.

[Danny Marie]

Oh my goodness. Yeah.

[Bunnie]

So jumping back in, do you think bam. You know all the trauma that you've been through, have you had. I know you've been to all did the Florida shuffle, but have you ever had any, like, trauma therapy?

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, I mean, they put me through everything. I like a part of the jackass thing. I had to blow into a soberling four times a day. I had to pay for 800 of therapy twice a week. Neurofeedback, Same thing. Yeah. And, and, but I think you were forced.

[Danny Marie]

I think if you did it like on your own.

[Bam Margera]

I have therapy of hearing sirens when I. Because I was on, when I was on that manhunt, it was gnarly. There's three helicopters in the sky, eight police officers circling around trying to find me through the woods. I am a professional at hopping barbed wire fences. I was scared shitless on the fourth one, but on the eighth one, I became a pro. And then I drank the Brandywine river because I was dying of thirst. I. I slept in a box in a fucking house that I thought was abandoned until they pulled up and they were so terrified. They come up to unlock the door and they just see a pair of feet hanging out this box. And all of a sudden I just jump out like a bat out of the hell. I just go, I'm sorry. And I keep running down the railroad tracks. Oh my God. I was Harriet Tubman from the underground railroad. I had fairness hide me, take me to a Albanian restaurant. And then they took me from there. Finally I. I made it to the Jersey shore at a buddy's house, and. And I was telling random people just to see how far it would go. I told my mom that I was in North Carolina just to see if that would travel anywhere. Sure enough, turns out, like, we found out Bam's in North Carolina on a high speed chase, all larried up, because if he made it to North Carolina that quick, that means he was driving 120 miles per hour. I'm like, that was a lie that I told to my mom just to see how far it would go. My gosh, I'm in Jersey.

[Bunnie]

There's just so much betrayal and there's so much trauma here. And I think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without with it being on your terms, like Danny said, I think it would help you out a lot because you just are so hurt, you know, like there's just so much turmoil inside. And that's why you drink, that's why you do the drugs you do is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have.

[Bam Margera]

And with a relationship, it's all about trust. If you don't have trust, you got nothing.

[Danny Marie]

Nothing.

[Bunnie]

Right, absolutely. That's 100. Right. And now you've got Danny.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah. Hell yeah, we know.

[Danny Marie]

There's no filter here. It works for sure.

[Bunnie]

So how many days sober are you now?

[Bam Margera]

Since August 1st.

[Bunnie]

Okay, so that's, that's actually a good while. Is that the longest you've been sober?

[Bam Margera]

Well, minus the Florida shuffle, because I. I was forced to be. Right.

[Bunnie]

Right. On your own. This is you. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Love it. What are you guys plans to just keep this going and like, what do you guys do differently now than any other time?

[Bam Margera]

I known this. All I needed all along was a structured schedule. That's fun because I had no 9 to 5 job. I had no boss ever tell me what to do. And you know, I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know that. I'm with her, I'm in bed.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, I text her. Last night at like 9:30.

[Danny Marie]

I woke up, up this morning. I was like, I missed something.

[Bam Margera]

We were in bed and you know,

[Danny Marie]

he was already asleep.

[Bam Margera]

And that's why I love having the dogs. Because we wake up, I walk the dogs, we take care of. If I. If I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs. But we walk the dogs, she stretches me, we go to the gym, then I look for a skate spot. She shoots the skate photo or films it for me. We get it done, we go get something to eat. And then I either paint or read or write or edit or whatever it is, is. It's a whole fun, structured schedule. And Steve O. Would always tell me, dude, if you just get sober, you'll see that neat things will happen. I'm like, well, I've been sober and the only neat things that happen is nothing. Because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm forced to go to AA to learn the alcohol's ban. It's not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy. I'm forced to go to neurofeedback. Nothing fun is happening at all. Right.

[Danny Marie]

I couldn't imagine, could you? Our personalities. I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill and put freaking music or my phone or you or a text they want you to go crazy.

[Bam Margera]

And I gotta say this.

[Danny Marie]

I mean, it's like a setup for disaster.

[Bam Margera]

How come the FBI or no one has done research about this Amanda Rab client? That Lima, my guardian, she died under her care. And she changed the autopsy. It's saying that it wasn't from what she died from. It was from a cardiac arrest seizure, which is what I started getting as soon as I met her.

[Danny Marie]

And it's online. So these things that are being said. She's already tried to go. I read about tried, but it's all on the Internet. I mean, people are now aware of her lies.

[Bunnie]

People aren't still in her care, are they?

[Bam Margera]

Well, I believe they better not be.

[Danny Marie]

People are backing up.

[Bam Margera]

She made me talk about this neato helmet that she made.

[Danny Marie]

Listen to this.

[Bam Margera]

And I put on this helmet and I'm. And she forced me to say how. How neat it is and how it helps with therapy. In one eye, you see a little kitten drinking milk, and then the other eye, you see a Tyrannosaurus rex is coming at you at full speed, trying to eat.

[Bunnie]

Eat you.

[Bam Margera]

And she's like, which eye do you pick? I picked the kitty cat. You're on the right path. No, I'm on the right path. Why would I pick the left eye, which is a T. Rex coming at me to eat me?

[Danny Marie]

So they're basically using, like, psychedelic, you know, things to kind of trick your brain, right? And, you know, if I. I went down the rabbit hole of BJ Investigates, and that's. That's how I. When he was sleeping and. And resting, I wanted to know. And Pamela and BJ are friends, and they showed me things. Things that I started to understand the system, even working in the shuffle, I was familiar with it, right? And then watching how they use certain tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them. So there's a word for it. It's a very scary.

[Bam Margera]

All PJ Investigates wanted to do was free bam. She started the Free Bam movement. So if you're against that, then you're against me.

[Danny Marie]

BJ is a big, big deal with the Free Britney movement. So she's the one in case. Case not just ma'. Am. She's uncovered the Wendy Williams recently. KC Kasem back in the day. Like, she's someone who is speaking for.

[Bunnie]

Let me get her on the podcast.

[Danny Marie]

I would. I'll definitely connect you to. Let's not forget this isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone like you and I. Well, you're, you know, I don't care. But I mean just like you and I like sitting in a room and your mom thinks you're okay and you're not because the person that's in control of you is a liar and money hungry.

[Bunnie]

And we went through this with our daughter. We had, we had to put her in a treatment center.

[Danny Marie]

Awful what they do.

[Bunnie]

Last year in September and I researched everything because I was so scared of something like what happened to you happening to her. So it's scary. I mean mental health system is a

[Danny Marie]

nightmare and we definitely don't want to bash the good ones.

[Bunnie]

I'm sorry.

[Bam Margera]

I went to Aurora Mental Health in Pasadena, California and I was just talking to the other people. I'm like, so what happened to you? He's like, I was just here for a 48 hour hold and then they found out that I insurance and I had nowhere to go. And I've been here for 150 days.

[Danny Marie]

Keep you like a shot. Like it's really.

[Bam Margera]

And I can't even get on the phone and I don't even know who I would call for help. But they found I was only on a 48 hour hold and then they found out insurance and I had nowhere to go and I've been here for 150 days. I'm like, this is up.

[Danny Marie]

And then if you go and say you kind of need help, like we just had a friend and we're not going to name drop him, but he was going through kind of the same thing that Bam's going through with custody. And he said he just had a couple bad days and he went to 51 or he went and they 5150'd him and he had to check out. He was like, I don't belong here. Like I just, I'm having some personal issues and asking for help. They put him in with, you know, the people that really need help. So it's like you're having a bad day, you can't really get the help and then once you do, you're labeled, you're in the system and they want your money.

[Bam Margera]

If you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are fucking yelling at the trash can saying why didn't you marry me? And the other one's trying to french kiss their own sneaker, you're going to start doing that too. Over time it could be fun for a day.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, you can't.

[Bunnie]

If you can't beat them, join them.

[Bam Margera]

Why?

[Danny Marie]

Cuz everybody else grab your sneaker and make Out. It's fine.

[Bunnie]

Oh, my God. Bam. Just hearing this stuff is just wild, dude. Like, it is cra. This is. It hurts my heart for you. Honestly, you seem like such a jovial

[Bam Margera]

thing to do is just to just shut your. Because the more you talk, the more they can hold against you. My one buddy, Hannah, called me for the mental. Bam. You don't understand. I don'. Belong here. You got to get me out of here. And I hear. I'm like, are you banging your head against the wall? He's like, yeah. I'm like, you just bought yourself another month, you idiot.

[Danny Marie]

Don't do that.

[Bam Margera]

Then you're definitely don't do that, you hot air buffoon. You just bought yourself. Yeah, bang your head against the wall. That's a real good idea.

[Danny Marie]

He's actually really good in the gym too. This one. This giving himself benefits for.

[Bunnie]

Let's talk about some good stuff. So what are you doing now that's different? Like you're getting stretched, which I just discovered stretching this year because I too, I heard you say something that you had ripped your thing, your hamstring. I was doing a tick tock thing. I like was joking around and like doing this stupid dance. Not like a genuine tick tock dance, but I was like making fun of something and snapped my Achilles.

[Danny Marie]

That is so painful, bro.

[Bunnie]

It's still up.

[Danny Marie]

And this was on Halloween.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

And I was like that I gotta start stretching.

[Bam Margera]

Oh, yeah. And.

[Bunnie]

And that's what I've been doing is stretching. And it's phenomenal. Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

I thought that they were. Was there was no hope for me. Like I was even. I was putting tax in the. In my calf muscles. Like there was a bunch of calves. My friend was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm putting taxes. Why? I'm like, to relieve the pain.

[Bunnie]

Oh my gosh.

[Bam Margera]

So like that's how stiff they were from just alcohol abuse and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles. It was for real. It was that painful. And. And one yoga guy was like, just reach down and touch your toes. See if you can do that. I doubt I can. And I went. And my hamstring string popped right here. I was out for a year from that. I Even when I got out of treatment, they let me skate a three foot half pipe with my friend Jeff Rasp. And I didn't even get to drop in yet. I ran up the three foot ramp and basically got such a cramp that I couldn't do it anymore. Tried the easiest trick on the planet. Looped out because some little shit ass waxed a coping like a fucking Eskimo. And I hyperextended my elbow to the bone coming out and broke my wrist for the 16th time. And my arm still just won't go straight from it.

[Danny Marie]

It's getting better.

[Bunnie]

My gosh.

[Danny Marie]

We'll straighten that out too.

[Bunnie]

So stretching, working out, being on a regimen. Dogs, Dogs.

[Danny Marie]

He has such a good relationship with them. That's like another thing.

[Bunnie]

Not to backtrack, but did you never have animals before?

[Bam Margera]

I've always had cats because.

[Bunnie]

Okay, gotcha.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, but. But anytime I would have a dog, I leave too much, I travel too much. So a friend would watch them. And when a friend watches your dog for a month and it's a brand new puppy, you come back and they're like, I can't give this back.

[Bunnie]

I get it.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, gotcha. But you know, Bam, I think a lot of his friends will say, like, you know, bringing up how he has been in this world for so long that he's always had people around him. And sometimes they'll say, gosh, I just can't believe you're letting him go hiking with the dogs. I'm like, letting him hike with the dogs. Like, what do you mean letting him? Like, number one. I get a free moment to hang out and watch maybe some trash TV for a second. And then, you know, I'm thinking and learning that people have never left. Let him be like, alone.

[Bunnie]

Let him be a human.

[Danny Marie]

Just be in the woods. And I've. They've kind of created anxiety for me, which. Who wants that? I don't want him going. You can't go work out in the woods. You know, it's like, who wants that relationship? So if Bam's gonna up, he's gonna up. He knows what he's gonna lose if he up.

[Bunnie]

It sounds like he's finding peace, though. I don't feel like you've ever had peace your entire.

[Danny Marie]

And I just like saying I let

[Bam Margera]

him just go do his thing. Harmony, which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious, harmonious day. Harmony is what I needed. And man, just spending time, like alone with the dogs.

[Danny Marie]

And he takes them for hikes, like things that, you know, at 40 degree weather. Pennsylvania is very cold for me. So, yeah, I'm not hiking at 5am with them. I don't know. Yeah. So. But he goes and does that, and it gives them time to bond with the dogs and. And it gets him. You know, they have their own little relationship, which I Love.

[Bam Margera]

I'm starting to think so. You know what?

[Danny Marie]

What?

[Bam Margera]

Maybe the. The interventionalist really thought that I was schizophrenic because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like I was telling somebody. Yeah. So I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim Jong Il likes sports cars, and he wouldn't let me drive it around, but he let me park it at the airport. And then Iggy Pop played my wedding, and Billy Idol cut the roof off of the Lamborghini. This guy is batshit crazy. But if you look it up on YouTube, you're gonna find that you've lived 20 lives.

[Danny Marie]

He really has.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

I mean, the people that he knows are insane.

[Bunnie]

I feel like this guy's talking about

[Bam Margera]

shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong Il. Nobody goes to North Korea, and he probably doesn't even have a Lamborghini.

[Bunnie]

You.

[Bam Margera]

It's all true.

[Bunnie]

I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day. You don't have to please anybody else but yourself and Danny, and you're actually just being able to be. Bam. And I think you're finding who you are now.

[Bam Margera]

And I have a strict diet. The only thing I eat is meat.

[Bunnie]

Yeah, well, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all. It's not a bad diet. And, I mean, I don't blame you. It's like filet mignon over here.

[Danny Marie]

You know, filet lobster.

[Bunnie]

Are you eating healthier, though, and stuff like that?

[Bam Margera]

I'm sure Danny has you actually.

[Bunnie]

Healthy.

[Bam Margera]

Good. Now that all I want to do is eat right, and I really don't. I never thought the day would come to where I. I would stop, because it's always free. If you're at a nightclub, you wouldn't do a bump in the bathroom. Sure. You know, and then, you know, you get really addicted to it.

[Danny Marie]

Not these days. You'll die in the bathroom.

[Bam Margera]

I've been on the ground on this rug with a microscope, looking for crumbs, you know, And I'm like, I'm never gonna stop. It's just a matter of time. I'm gonna do it again.

[Danny Marie]

Again.

[Bam Margera]

Now, don't feel that way. You could put it right in front of me. I'll flush it down the toilet. Don't want anybody.

[Danny Marie]

But, you know, like, people always say, forget the haters online, too.

[Bam Margera]

Like, well, I can't believe you're banned.

[Danny Marie]

Blah. Number one, mind your business. Who I want.

[Bunnie]

Right.

[Danny Marie]

And number two, like, I wasn't gonna leave him as a person. Like, I'm a good person, a people person, and I, you know, the people that I believe were connected to. When you have a connection, it was whether we were gonna last sexually or not or what booty call or not, I still wanted to be his friend. And like, when he. Especially in Hollywood, like, it's so hard and to find normal people in this world as it is. But when he did have to go to Pennsylvania and we had the two days together, which people don't know, the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave. And the attorney, because I was upset, and the attorney said, you know, you guys have to have him in by Sunday. And this was Friday.

[Bam Margera]

Yes.

[Danny Marie]

So we had a couple of two really good days. And I remember saying, like, he just said, just don't leave me here because they're going to shuffle me. Like, he knew that if he stayed in the system. System, we weren't going to be able to see each other.

[Bam Margera]

What the little tiff with my brother, when we went to court, we flew in from California. My Bentley was there, parked at the LAX airport, because we thought we were coming right back. We put the dogs up and. And he's like, you're sentenced to stay in. In Pennsylvania for three months or something. But, your honor, we live in California. My car's in the airport, our dogs are there, and my brother lives at my house. So he's like, ain't my problem. Yeah, it's my problem. It's a big one. So now the judge, basically, I can't even go home.

[Danny Marie]

Go get your car. I was like, like, what do you

[Bam Margera]

want me to do? Float around of Motel Sixes around Pennsylvania all day for? Why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania? All my stuff. I moved to California. Well, tough, like. Yeah, it's very tough.

[Danny Marie]

So that's when you know you like somebody. Because basically I had to fly back to LA by myself. I had a lot to think about. And then I went to my best friend Heather's house. House in Hollywood and La Brea. And I'm like. And his good friend Dre, you know, a few good people were. I said, what do I do? And they're like, go get him. He had eight days, and he said, if you don't come give me on the eighth day, they're going to keep me here. So basically, everyone gathered it. Got his. I got his Bentley. They checked the oil. They made sure it was fine. I grabbed the Dogs. Heather packed me up. Dre packed me.

[Bunnie]

Two dogs in the Bentley.

[Danny Marie]

Two dogs in the Bentley and me. And enough to get across. That's a. That's a TV show. Yeah. Me five days to get there really

[Bam Margera]

like, made me appreciate everything again. We'll be on a road trip and I'll just like, pull over on the side of the road. She like, what are you doing? I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah.

[Bam Margera]

Like, you got to understand it different than we do. I was locked away. Like, the only outside I got to see was a barb wire fence to smoke a cigarette.

[Danny Marie]

Brutal.

[Bunnie]

God, it's like prison.

[Bam Margera]

And it's such a dick. Cuz the beach is literally right there.

[Danny Marie]

It doesn't feel helpful.

[Bunnie]

That's terrible.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, they make it seem all nice on the brochure. It's right by the beach in Delray. Yeah, but I'm locked up and the beach is right there. And you won't even let me go to it.

[Bunnie]

That is so sad. So you guys are engaged now?

[Danny Marie]

We are.

[Bunnie]

Is there going to be a wedding?

[Bam Margera]

Yeah. Yes. But we wanted to.

[Bunnie]

Okay. I want to be the. I want to be the flower girl.

[Danny Marie]

Okay, perfect.

[Bam Margera]

I don't have.

[Bunnie]

And Jay gets to be the ring bearer. And, you know. No, we don't want to take it from Phoenix.

[Bam Margera]

We really want, you know, like Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to play during it. And that's not an easy thing because you need lighting and the stage and all that. So it's not something that's going to happen soon. We're going to plan this really well.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah. It happened. You know, it was just a fun day. And then I forget that people zoom in on us now. Yeah. So I. I wasn't going to take the ring off. Even though it was like a cute little antique. He made me pick his hand. He's like, pick a hand?

[Bunnie]

Yeah. Tell me how it happened.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, it was really cute too. So there was this house in Pennsylvania, Ms. Pamela, Mrs. Pamela Duff, that they have, that has a waterfall and a lot of potential.

[Bam Margera]

Sum it up, the Duff family. Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tony Hawk's company, Birdhouse. And me and him are friends. And when I had nowhere to go and I'm sentenced to stay in Pennsylvania and I can't even go home, he said, come stay with it. Because they own Duff Electric. They have a bunch of.

[Bunnie]

And you couldn't stay in your own house.

[Bam Margera]

So they took us in and. And they had this really Nice house that. That they wanted to. That they just own. But it. It needs a lot of work. And it's right on the Delaware river in this cool town called New Hope, which is like this cool, but you're

[Danny Marie]

gonna leave out a fun detail. And the girls need a detail. Yeah, we need the girly. Details, details. I'm a butterfly mom. I raise butterflies. I've been doing it for like nine years. I want to be a bee mom one day, too. So I saw potential at this place. He was talking skate parks. I saw the waterfall. Pamela Drive just would love for us to live there because she's ready for another project.

[Bunnie]

Right.

[Danny Marie]

And I see in the front, I'm like, oh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden, you know? And I'm like, looking around because it used to be a restaurant. So there's a lot of potential, but could be a little crazy. So as we're like, driving, which I thought when we were in the Poconos, I was in the worst outfit, this purple jumpsuit with a beanie. And he takes me to this, like, heart shaped hotel. And I'm like, not this outfit, please. No. I was thinking, like, I hope he's not being like, romantic in a weird.

[Bam Margera]

This heart.

[Danny Marie]

You know what I mean? It was like heart shaped. I'm like, okay, not looking too good. Long story short, it was that night.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

That we left that place. Nothing happened. So I was like, oh, cool. I was like, that was fun. So then we're like driving, driving, driving. And he literally goes, oh, my gosh. Do you know? And it was pitch black. It was like 10 o' clock at night.

[Bam Margera]

And he's like, but we were just having such a good road trip. Listened to all of our favorite music. And I noticed that that was the house that we wanted to fix up and everything. So I just pulled over in the butterfly. I had these rings in my hand. 1.

[Danny Marie]

Once.

[Bam Margera]

Once I kissed her at the pro at the Dove property. I threw the rings near the waterfall. They're still sitting in there somewhere. But we haven't been back long enough to go find him again.

[Bunnie]

Okay, so he proposed to you with the rings? Pick one. And then threw them.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Such a bam move.

[Danny Marie]

And I'm like, okay. And then he, like, sat up against this little wall and he's like, will you marry me? And I'm like, are you fucking around? Like, are you kidding? Or whatever. Because we were like, sitting that little butterfly garden, and it was just like, super cute and romantic. He knows I'm not like, all. All blingy. And need anything crazy. So it was just really fun. And I. And I was like, well, duh. Yeah. Like, if you're being serious, you know, we kept it quiet for a little bit. Then, of course, those little people out there got a hold of my finger, and we're zooming in. Yeah. They started asking questions. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess I should say something that a really good friend of mine asked. So I told her yes. And then that's how we know Leanne with us. So you're in good hands with her because she's like, can I talk about it? And I just looked at him. I'm like, well, I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they start talking.

[Bunnie]

Before the rumors.

[Danny Marie]

I know.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

So then I was like, all right, let's talk to her.

[Bunnie]

And here we are. It's been crazy. So what does 2024 have for Bam and Danny? What do you guys have planned? I know you guys are doing all these horror cons, and we're booked to,

[Danny Marie]

like, October, which is exciting.

[Bam Margera]

Die and save the world or what? We.

[Danny Marie]

We skate. We saved. Well, I'm the big animal.

[Bam Margera]

Save the World or what we can of it tour.

[Danny Marie]

So, like, he skates, and I'm, like, checking it. We were in New Orleans villains, and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm in all glam.

[Bunnie]

Yeah.

[Danny Marie]

And I'm like, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. Glam's gone. I'm, like, holding the pit bull. He was all broken.

[Bam Margera]

Everybody walking past the dog, like, it's just searching for food, starving to death. They're just like, look at. They didn't want anything to do with it. And she gets out. She's all done up like this because we have to go to a horror comic con.

[Danny Marie]

I just picked the dog up, and

[Bam Margera]

we're in the ghetto at the skate park, under a bridge. They were probably like, who is this chick that I know? Like, this dog with fleas all over it.

[Danny Marie]

Don't care. But then, you know, the skater community, people don't understand how rad they are. Yeah. So these two, like, rad chicks come over their skate. Do you need help, these skater chicks? And I said, well, I just called the SPCA, and she happened to have a 561 number. West Palm Me. I had the same area code. So she scooped them right up, took him out of hell. And it's just. It's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder, but I can kind of fit in anywhere. And. And, you know, the skate parks we go to unfortunately aren't very, you know, they're not in the best areas. So you see a lot.

[Bam Margera]

And yes, you always find weed there.

[Danny Marie]

Well, yeah, true. But, you know, you see, like, the cats and the dogs. And it's sad because to bring up the world we live in, everyone wants to play pickleball and tennis and basketball when the skate parks are, like, in the middle of bad places that you really don't want to take your six year old after five, five o'. Clock. So those are the places that we're hitting up. And opening my eyes to this world needs to change.

[Bam Margera]

And we'll be sitting there playing it. I'll be like, I thought the rule is no phones. Hold on. I'm saving a goat from Idaho right now.

[Bunnie]

I'm like, give me that.

[Bam Margera]

You really are doing that.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, we have like a phone thing. But I'm like, hold on. I have to pledge on this elephant real quick.

[Bunnie]

That is hilarious.

[Danny Marie]

It's true. I'm like, most of the time I'm on my phone, I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or I'm screaming with PETA.

[Bam Margera]

What do you do? I'm calling 91 1.

[Danny Marie]

Why pedal in the ducks?

[Bam Margera]

Because this guy got arrested for trying to save dogs. He's getting the trespass. Yeah. What's up with that Wayne situation?

[Danny Marie]

Wayne and Zoe Rooster. You're gonna see hopefully the Today show here soon.

[Bam Margera]

They're ready.

[Bunnie]

I love that. I want to tell you guys, when Jay and I first got together, we immediately went out on tour. And it's the best bonding experience for a couple. It will either make or break you. You guys are either meant to be together or not. Once you guys are in a car, traveling all the time, like working together, that's when you really figure out what you guys are about. And you fall in love fast because you get to know somebody so personally and so quickly.

[Bam Margera]

Totally. And there's a lot of things that I didn't know. You know, if we show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a comic con and we're only there for two days, like, she'll be, I know you guys got to see him, and I'm sorry, but we're having date night tonight because, you know, I'm like, cool. You know, I never had the courage.

[Danny Marie]

I'm like, it's 8:00pm Come along to date night. Yeah. I'm like, it's 8: PM we're done. He's like another hour. Nope. I'm in bed by 10. Date lines on. I need Keith Morrison.

[Bunnie]

I think he needs you. Because nobody has ever really been able to not tell you no. Or like, I don't even know if the word. I think it's. You guys run wild together. You just have more structured wild.

[Danny Marie]

Structured wild, yeah.

[Bam Margera]

Hotel. It's 10 o'. Clock. It was like, you have tame the Apollo. I'm like, Apollo? You've tamed the Apollo? What do you mean? You've got me in bed by 10. I'm very impressed.

[Bunnie]

You've tamed the impala and then you really just go to sleep. But you don't have sleeping problems or anything?

[Bam Margera]

No. I was always on so much Trazodone and Seroquel and I thought I needed that to sleep. But at the end of the day, I'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym and, you know, having such a fun, productive day that I sleep on time.

[Bunnie]

Are you 100% sober?

[Bam Margera]

Raw dog and just a couple puffs of weed?

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bunnie]

I mean, that's sober to me. Yeah, totally.

[Danny Marie]

And he has a medical card. People relax.

[Bunnie]

Yeah. I don't think weed. There's, you know, you know, there's. Everybody has a different definition of sober.

[Bam Margera]

I'm completely streaming water and skateboarding is. My medicine.

[Danny Marie]

Just killed that the other day. They're like, well, then you're not 100

[Bunnie]

levels.

[Danny Marie]

Like, he's fine.

[Bunnie]

There's California sober and there's straight edge. I'm straight edge. My husband's California sober. He'll drink and he smokes weed all day, you know, so some people have to have a vice, you know, I would love to have a vice, but my anxiety, the way it's set up, I can't.

[Bam Margera]

So it's like, I have to meet my life.

[Danny Marie]

See, weed for me, is something that just levels my brain out. So that's why I'm never gonna call

[Bunnie]

a vagina a vagina again. It's strictly me.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah. From now on, that's. That. That was the word of the month when we first started dating at the restaurants. I was like, can we not say that? In the middle of 4pm

[Bunnie]

he'd be

[Danny Marie]

like, is her meat on the menu? I'm like, oh, my God, I'm just gonna go to the bathroom.

[Bunnie]

Oh, my God.

[Bam Margera]

Shock value. That's what I'm after. You know, how to handle it.

[Bunnie]

I think you guys are adorable. And I love seeing him so happy. Like, that really makes me happy to see him.

[Danny Marie]

Well, I'M just learning. Yeah, learning like the. You guys and the fans that have loved him so much are teaching me, like, where he really was. I mean, I knew he had some things going on, but when, when I'm, you know, the best part about working with him and seeing, you know, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs and the fan, you know, I say hi to them. They're so. Most of the time they've been really nice. Nice to me. I know it's just the trolls. His fans that are in line are very sweet to me.

[Bunnie]

They're not iconic, they're not coming up

[Danny Marie]

trying to spit in my face or whatever, but, you know, they're teaching me so much about him. And I love all the people that are coming up and saying that you're helping them get through recovery or they're just so proud of you to be back on the skateboard. It's amazing to see the skateboarding community. They're so stoked to see him back on the skateboard.

[Bunnie]

There's so many people rooting for.

[Danny Marie]

I'm learning, like, what a badass skateboarder he was. I. And it.

[Bunnie]

You have to watch all the CKYs. You have to make her watch Slumber one day. Yeah, you have to watch them because then you'll really like bits and pieces.

[Bam Margera]

The last one she saw, she's like, so hold on. Ryan Dunn was drunk at the bar in Westchester and I saw that one. He's like all drunk. He's like, if we're in Iceland tomorrow, I would have gone off that water, that 40 foot waterfall. I'm like, but you didn't last time because you whooshed out. Yeah, but if we were there tomorrow, I would do it. I'm like, sign this right here. Next day, he wakes up and I'm like, you signed the contract and I'm on crazy ticket to Iceland. He's like, I hope it's so we get there. We didn't even scope anything out. I found a random ass barrel on the side of the road, sealed it up, pushed them off first by accident. She's like.

[Danny Marie]

I'm like, you did that to Ryan.

[Bam Margera]

I'm like, what if something bad happened? I'm like, we really didn't think about that.

[Danny Marie]

I looked up.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah, crazy.

[Bunnie]

What's your relationship with Billy Vallow now?

[Bam Margera]

It's good. We saw him at his last tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We went up with Jimmy Pop from the Bloodhound Gang and it was rad catching up with him. But quiet, quiet, quiet, you know the last time. The first time he went to treatment, we were at the Chateau Marmont. He. And we just got a deal signed for him to be on Warner. They got a really good deal, and he was drinking a lot, and he knew I had a prescription to Adderall, and he kept asking me for one, and I'm like, dude, I've given you enough. And. And he's like. I'm like, you know what? Just because it's you, I'm not gonna say no. So he, like, started hyperventilating and an ambulance came, and that was the first time he went to treatment. And I think Warner Brothers found out that I was the one that had my prescription that he kept asking for, which kind of sucks, because, you know, I didn't drink at all. I. I didn't drink till I was, well, 23 years old and all that. And. And when I was hanging out with him in Helsinki, Finland, I was so mesmerized by just how ratty was that when we stayed in the same hotel together, he opened up the mini bar and cracked open a beer. I'm like, you're just drinking in the day. I thought people only do that at night time. Did you want one? He's like, I'm like, I'm not gonna let you do it alone. So that was the first time I've been introduced to, like, day drinking. And then tables turn to where I'm. The bit.

[Bunnie]

When did you start using drugs?

[Bam Margera]

Probably about.

[Danny Marie]

Tell the truth.

[Bam Margera]

I'd say 24 or 25. No, I know.

[Bunnie]

I would have thought it would have been so younger.

[Bam Margera]

We were in Davos, Switzerland, doing this thing called the Winter Jam for MTV. Some 41 was playing, and this band called Guano Apes and Jackass was there to host the whole thing. And I remember we were staying at this nice hotel in the Alps, and somebody, like, started putting these lines out on the table. And that was. Was the first time I tried it. And I had a massage booked right. Right after that. I'm like, oh, God, I gotta miss. All right, if everybody else is doing it, I'll do it. I did it. I was getting a massage, like, done. I can't even relax.

[Bunnie]

God, I couldn't imagine my first bump of coke and I'm getting massage. Yeah. I would go crazy. There's no way.

[Bam Margera]

But never. That's why I was terrified of a needle. Never messed with heroin or anything. Anything.

[Danny Marie]

I was surprised.

[Bunnie]

What's the hardest drugs you've done?

[Bam Margera]

Probably just method coke. Anything upper. Yeah, you know, like, shocking. I Don't know why people would do heroin or Valium and show up to a bar and fall asleep into their beer. It makes no sense.

[Bunnie]

Yeah. I used to be one of those. I love.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Xanax was my love.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

I was an upper Canada cold. I used to call myself, like, I

[Bam Margera]

would only take that if I was on, like, an airplane. Yeah. But, man, you have one beer on a Xanax, you're Larry.

[Bunnie]

Oh, lit. Just lit. It's a party.

[Danny Marie]

There's the. The closet problems.

[Bunnie]

Well, I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast, and I look forward to seeing you guys just blossom. And I really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us, too, because my husband loves you and I love you, so.

[Danny Marie]

Yeah, I already told Jen and Jesse. Yeah. We need to. Us three can be on the bus and you guys can get your own bus.

[Bunnie]

Are you guys gonna come see us on tour?

[Bam Margera]

We are. Sure.

[Bunnie]

Antonio. Yay. Yeah. Come to a show. We always have so much fun. And it's. I have the girls own bus. The boys have their own bus. And I know all the. The band would love to see you guys. And I'll steal Melissa.

[Danny Marie]

I want to let them know, Melissa, Quinn, Michael, Quinn, They're. They love you. So the boys will be together. We'll steal her. Melissa actually manifested this. I love her. I love that saying that you and I would get along great. And that was literally two days later. I had your phone number. I'm like, this is crazy.

[Bunnie]

I love it. So happy that we were able to work this out.

[Danny Marie]

No. Well, hopefully Jenna can come, but. Yeah, Melissa and Michael will go. Go right. Meet her then. Yeah.

[Bunnie]

Yeah. Well, thank you guys for coming. What you got? You want to shout out your social so everybody. I'm sure everybody knows where to find

[Danny Marie]

you, but you guys go ahead. And Danny Marie, official, they are Captain

[Bam Margera]

Cream Stain or Captain Crumble. I'm good.

[Danny Marie]

Just save a dog.

[Bunnie]

Just Google Bam Margera. You guys will find everything.

[Danny Marie]

I think maybe the fans are realizing, like, they wanted to see me every now and then, but I'm just gonna blast them with shelter dogs, so please adopt.

[Bam Margera]

Yeah.

[Bunnie]

I watched your story the other day, and it was all dogs. I was like, I love this girl.

[Danny Marie]

I go through my moments where I'm like, calm down.

[Bam Margera]

Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs.

[Danny Marie]

Everything.

[Bam Margera]

I give a plug to Curiosity Donuts from Doylestown. They're awesome.

[Bunnie]

I love that they only open on

[Bam Margera]

Wednesdays because they make them so fresh.

[Bunnie]

Oh, my God. We'll have to try it on tour. We'll go on tour. We'll literally say bam. Recommended this and do a whole tick tock on it.

[Danny Marie]

It'll be awesome.

[Bam Margera]

Black rifle, coffee, rock and roll.

[Bunnie]

Thank you guys so much for coming.

[Danny Marie]

You're stuck with us.

[Bunnie]

I appreciate you too. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next time week. Bye.