Dolly Parton: Queen of Everything

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde – Episode "Dolly Parton: Queen of Everything"

Release Date: December 9, 2024

Introduction

In this captivating episode of Dumb Blonde, host Bunnie XO engages in a heartfelt and humorous conversation with the legendary Dolly Parton and acclaimed speaker Joyce Meyer. Titled "Dolly Parton: Queen of Everything," the episode delves deep into personal histories, the impact of family, overcoming challenges, and the secrets behind lasting relationships. Listeners are treated to an intimate look at the lives of these remarkable women, filled with laughter, wisdom, and inspiration.

Meeting the Queens: Dolly Parton and Joyce Meyer

The episode kicks off with Dolly Parton reflecting on the inception of the podcast's name, sharing her admiration for Dolly Parton as an icon who embodies both humor and strength.

“When I named this podcast, I named it after a specific song that was tongue in cheek, but also was an oxymoron to my life, but also a woman who I have admired and literally just patterned my entire life after. The iconic, the queen of not just country, but the Queen of everything.” ([05:24])

Joyce Meyer's Early Life and Family Influence

Joyce Meyer opens up about her humble beginnings in the Great Smoky Mountains of East Tennessee, highlighting the influence of her large family and hardworking parents.

“I was blessed to have a good mom and dad. And they managed pretty good to work with nothing to try to, you know, to raise a house full of kids.” ([07:17])

She emphasizes the importance of family unity and the strong work ethic instilled in her from a young age.

“We all loved each other for the way we were, and that's how we still are.” ([14:14])

Overcoming Adversity: Loss and Resilience

A poignant moment arises when Joyce recounts the tragic loss of her brother Larry at birth, a childhood trauma that profoundly affected her.

“That was a real hit for me at that age that I had lost my baby.” ([18:44])

Despite the grief, Joyce demonstrates remarkable resilience, channeling her emotions into her passion for music and faith.

Building Confidence Through Music

Starting her musical journey at just ten years old, Joyce Meyer shares how songwriting and performing became her sanctuary.

“I was writing songs at 8, 7, 8, 9 years old about people getting killed in the war and things that I'd never seen or done.” ([21:03])

A Lasting Marriage: Joyce and Carl Dean

The conversation takes a personal turn as Joyce discusses her marriage to Carl Dean, highlighting the foundation of love, respect, and shared humor that has sustained their relationship for over six decades.

“We've been together 60 years. But that's the one that took. Yeah, we've been together 60 years.” ([46:15])

Joyce emphasizes the importance of being best friends with her husband and maintaining open, respectful communication.

“We have a lot of fun. Anytime things get too much tension going on, either one of us can find the joke about it to break the tension.” ([47:31])

Entrepreneurial Ventures and Giving Back

Transitioning to her business endeavors, Joyce Meyer introduces her own makeup line, reflecting her commitment to empowering others.

“I've always wanted to have my own line of makeup, and I love lipstick, and you do, too.” ([52:18])

Additionally, she highlights the Imagination Library, a project dedicated to providing books to children, underscoring her dedication to education and literacy.

“The Imagination Library is as proud of that as anything I've ever done where we give books to children from the time they're born till they start school.” ([55:25])

Legacy and Inspirational Insights

Throughout the episode, Dolly Parton and Joyce Meyer exchange anecdotes and wisdom, offering listeners valuable insights into balancing personal aspirations with family life, the importance of faith, and maintaining authenticity in one's journey.

“If you're not scared of what you're doing, you're not growing.” – Dolly Parton ([34:19])

“I'm a big person on faith and keeping that strength, because that's my creative energy and my spiritual energy is the thing that keeps me motivated.” – Joyce Meyer ([11:26])

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with mutual expressions of admiration and gratitude, leaving listeners inspired by the genuine connection and shared experiences of these influential women.

“Thank you for being in mine. And we're not dumb blondes. No, by long.” – Joyce Meyer ([56:54])

“Thank you, Miss Dolly.” – Joyce Meyer ([56:55])

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Notable Quotes

• Dolly Parton ([05:24]): “When I named this podcast, I named it after a specific song that was tongue in cheek, but also was an oxymoron to my life...”

• Joyce Meyer ([07:17]): “I was blessed to have a good mom and dad... to raise a house full of kids.”

• Joyce Meyer ([18:44]): “That was a real hit for me at that age that I had lost my baby.”

• Joyce Meyer ([21:03]): “I was writing songs at 8, 7, 8, 9 years old about people getting killed in the war...”

• Joyce Meyer ([46:15]): “We've been together 60 years.”

• Joyce Meyer ([47:31]): “Anytime things get too much tension... find the joke about it to break the tension.”

• Joyce Meyer ([55:25]): “The Imagination Library is as proud of that as anything I've ever done...”

• Dolly Parton ([34:19]): “If you're not scared of what you're doing, you're not growing.”

• Joyce Meyer ([56:54]): “Thank you, Miss Dolly.”

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Key Takeaways

• Family and Upbringing: Both Dolly Parton and Joyce Meyer emphasize the critical role of family support and upbringing in shaping their careers and personal lives.

• Resilience Through Adversity: Joyce Meyer’s experience with loss and how she channeled her grief into her passions highlights the importance of resilience.

• Long-Lasting Relationships: The foundation of mutual respect, friendship, and humor in Joyce and Carl Dean’s marriage serves as a model for enduring relationships.

• Empowerment and Giving Back: Joyce Meyer's entrepreneurial ventures and the Imagination Library demonstrate her commitment to empowering others and giving back to the community.

• Faith and Motivation: Both guests underline the significance of faith and personal beliefs in driving their success and maintaining their authenticity.

This episode of Dumb Blonde offers a rich tapestry of life lessons, laughter, and inspiration from two women who have left indelible marks in their respective fields. Whether you’re seeking motivation, personal growth insights, or simply a good story, this episode delivers on all fronts.

Transcript

[Bunny]

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[Dolly Parton]

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[Dolly Parton]

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[Dolly Parton]

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[Dolly Parton]

That for you because I struggle with it daily also.

[Bunny]

But just know that you're not alone. If you want to learn more about therapy with no CD, go to no cd.com and schedule a free 15 minute call with their team. That's n o c d.com to learn more and book a free 15 minute call. Hey guys, I need to ask you a question. I want to know why in the hell are you not on Patreon? I know that you guys even realize how much content we have on Patreon. Let me break it down for you. We have the Bunny XO show, we have Meet the Defords, we have propaganda, we have more shows that we're adding and not to mention we have the visuals of the podcast. Head over to www. Patreon.com backslash Dumblon podcast and sign up. You guys are going to be pleasantly surprised. So with this podcast, you know, Dolly had. She's a workhorse like I am. And before she had done the podcast, she had already done three other things. The podcast was the last of her things of the day and we got allotted 45 minutes with her and her and I just started talking and like she had some of the most incredible answers and like, you know when Dolly speaks, you don't cut her off. So I didn't get to finish the entire interview, but Dolly had so much fun that they're bringing me back for a part two. It was incredible and I can't. I'm just so grateful and so thankful. Bunny XO is this thing on?

[Dolly Parton]

Hello babies. Welcome back to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today is so special to me because I started this podcast six years ago and when I named this podcast, I named it after a specific song that was Tongue in cheek, but also was an oxymoron to my life, but also a woman who I have admired and literally just patterned my entire life after. The iconic, the queen of not just country, but the Queen of everything. Ms. Dolly Parton is here today.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, hello. Now, we should put an S on the dumb blonde. I'm telling you, there's two of us here today.

[Dolly Parton]

Will you be my co host?

[Joyce Meyer]

I'll be your co host.

[Bunny]

I would love for you to be my cool.

[Dolly Parton]

I would love for you to be my co host.

[Joyce Meyer]

Bunny and a squirrel.

[Dolly Parton]

I love it. I love it so much.

[Bunny]

Both are fast, though.

[Dolly Parton]

Very, very slippery. Suckers, right?

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, very, very.

[Dolly Parton]

This has been something that I have pretty much manifested since I started this podcast. Everybody has always asked me, who is your dream guest? And there's two of you. Dolly Parton and Joyce Meyers are the two people that I have said that I have wanted since the beginning. And sitting here with you today is such an honor, and I just want to say thank you for making time for me today.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I'm happy to do it. We love you.

[Dolly Parton]

Aw. I love you, too. And my husband loves you, too.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, we love your husband very much, but anytime I see you, I see him, and vice versa. So, yeah, we love you both. You make a great couple.

[Bunny]

Thank you.

[Joyce Meyer]

But you're great on your own, and you're no dumb blonde, I can tell you that.

[Dolly Parton]

Thank you. And neither one of us are, though, right? Isn't that just.

[Joyce Meyer]

I don't know about me, but I know you're okay.

[Dolly Parton]

Well, I mean, the testimony to your life is pretty much shows how brilliant of a woman you are, and I kind of want to dive into that with you, starting with, I want to paint a picture for my viewers at home. For some people who might not even know your backstory. I'd like to start, you know, with your childhood and where you grew up and stuff like that. If you could tell me a little bit about that.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I grew up in the Great Smoky Mountains of East Tennessee, way up in the hills, actually. I was actually born in a little cabin on the little Pigeon River. My dad was a sharecropper for a while, and then eventually we moved over to the little place we call Locust Ridge, where you hear me talk a lot about my Tennessee mountain home. But there's 12 of us in all. Mama had 12 kids and six boys and six girls. We were pretty even, and we were just country people just trying to scratch a living out of dirt up there in the hills. But I Was blessed to have a good mom and dad. And they managed pretty good to work with nothing to try to, you know, to raise a house full of kids. And none of us wound up in jail. None of us had to get married. So all in all, I think they did a pretty good job. But we were just. A lot of folks in our area were poor. That's just the way it was in that area. But it's been one of the greatest things, really, that I've carried with me all my memories of my childhood. And it's made me appreciate life and people more than if I had been brought up a different way, I think.

[Dolly Parton]

Yes, ma'am. I always feel like harder childhoods make for great adulthoods. It, like, sets you up for just a lifetime of, you know, knowing that you have to work for what you want and going after your dreams. And you. I feel like you dream a little bit bigger, too.

[Joyce Meyer]

I think you do. I think you also kind of can relate, you know, to things more. And you also. Because if you like us, you stay so close together as a family in order to try to make it. And I think that in itself gives you a strength that you wouldn't have had you not had, you know, to know what it's like to work together, you know, to make things work and to keep a family together.

[Dolly Parton]

Yes, ma'am. Absolutely. A lot of your songs are deeply personal, and some of them reference your father's tough love. And you've also spoken about your mom's faith, how she was, you know, extremely religious. Do you feel that the tough love approach and her religious views is kind of what made you so independent or, like, dare I say, rebellious?

[Joyce Meyer]

Oh, I don't think I'm rebellious as much as I'm just strong. And I get my work ethic from my dad, and I get my spirituality and, you know, just my faith. I mean, my faith, but also just my creativity from my mom's side of the family because they were all musical. Now, Dad's people worked hard, and dad was not a tough dad. He was strong, though. He was kind of like that. We knew we better watch out.

[Dolly Parton]

He wasn't one to play with.

[Joyce Meyer]

No. He wasn't going to beat us to death or anything like that. But we weren't afraid of Mama. You know, we'd get by with anything with her, but she would say, you know, you couldn't push her over the edge. She'd say, okay, now, that's enough.

[Dolly Parton]

Right?

[Joyce Meyer]

But my dad, we. But I think that that was a good combination with Mom's faith and with Dad's strength that it made us really all pretty well balanced kids, I think.

[Dolly Parton]

I love that. I love that a lot. The respect that you have for your parents still, after all these years, is admirable also.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, well, I loved my family. I still do. I stay as close as I can to them, certainly, if I don't see them as often as I'd love to, but they're always in my heart and I always carry home with. Wherever I go. And I write so many songs in order. Well, it comes natural to me, but I often do it just to keep all that straight and keep that still present because it's so easy. And I'm sure, you know, living out in this big world, you can just go any way, whether it be right or wrong.

[Dolly Parton]

Yes, ma'am.

[Joyce Meyer]

You can go left and right and wrong. But it's like if you keep that thing that you remember as a child, that faith, I keep that very. I'm very. I'm a big person, you know, on faith and keeping that strength, because that's my creative energy and my. And my spiritual energy is the thing that keeps me motivated, keeps me strong, keeps me from falling through the cracks.

[Dolly Parton]

Keeps you grounded.

[Joyce Meyer]

Crazy world. Yeah.

[Dolly Parton]

I always say that. I'm like, whenever you're on your knees, you're in the best position to pray. It is literally like, that has been the only thing that has gotten me through in any hard times in my life is being able to call on Jesus and be like, all right, big homie, I know we got this. I know you got this. For me, speaking about family and you being so close with your brothers and sisters, everybody knows you as Dolly the icon. But how did they know you before all of this? Like, if they could describe you, how would they describe the Dolly that they grew up with?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I was just another one of those little ragged ass kids, you know, up there in the Smokies, you know, in the mountains. But we all. We all loved the music. I took it more serious, I think, because my Uncle Bill, one of my mom's brothers, he took a great interest in me because he saw me paying more attention to it than maybe some of the others did because I was always trying to learn all the chords on a guitar or any kind of an instrument laying around. And so they knew me as somebody that's going to, you know, offer to do their chores. If they'll come help me sing on a song or if they'll add some background or help me work up a background part. That I thought of. I remember once I had when pig Latin when I was in school, somebody came up with pig Latin.

[Bunny]

And I never learned how to speak that well.

[Joyce Meyer]

I did because I was fascinated with anything different. Can you tell me a song I only learned to do? Yeah, I'm going to sing you a song in pig Latin. But anyway, so I came up with a song called Friendliest Enemy. And I wanted the backgrounds to be like, she was my best friend to go with that in the background. So it was like Espresso ay mae es bay en and that meant she was my best friend. But if the song was she's the friendliest enemy I believe ever did see and she'd better get my baby off her mind Ishe as way ay ma. So anyway, that's a hit. Dolly. I had to get my sisters because they had to learn it, you know, they had to learn all that. And I had to offer to do their chores for a week or two, you know, for them to take the time to. To do it and just make them do it. So that kind of stuff. So they knew me as somebody that was always singing, always writing, always, you know, fidgety. I couldn't stay still, you know, I was just kind of always full of energy in life. But we all loved each other. We all had our own personalities. We all loved each other for the way we were, and that's how we still are. We all. Some of us are a good mix, you know. Well, we're all a good mix, but a lot of them are more like mom's people or some are more like dads. But I was a really good mix between the two. And I love that.

[Dolly Parton]

Oh, that is perfect. And I really think you need to release that song in Pig Laden. Start a new trend again. The kids will love it.

[Joyce Meyer]

We actually did it up in as one of the shows at Dollywood when I was telling my life story. So we worked it in a couple of years ago at the Dolly show. And my nieces got such kick having to learn to sing it up there on the show. But everybody was singing it because everybody tried to learn that little part.

[Dolly Parton]

I love it. I was so jealous of the people who could do piggy Latin because I just couldn't do it. I just could not catch on to it or how to do it. So I'm just fascinated that you.

[Joyce Meyer]

I was a pig. So I learned.

[Dolly Parton]

Stop it right now. I love that. All right, guys.

[Bunny]

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[Dolly Parton]

Family you helped raise. Being from 12 children, you guys all took turns raising a baby right in the family. The oldest ones did that is what I had read. And you had one specifically your brother Larry that you helped raise. Can we touch base on that whole situation a little bit?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well I think let me clear up a little bit.

[Dolly Parton]

Okay.

[Joyce Meyer]

We all had I have a sister and two brothers older than me.

[Dolly Parton]

Yes.

[Joyce Meyer]

And there's eight kids younger but we mama had so many kids There was only 18 months 2 years difference in our in all of her ages. Mom and daddy married when mama was 15. She had her first baby at 16 and so they were just born one right after another. So any older child had to help with whoever was coming along but the little. The one that was going to be my baby was little Larry. He didn't live that long, actually. And, you know, he was just. He died at birth, but he was. I'd followed mom around when she was pregnant. The whole time she said that was going to be mine. I'd sing to it and I'd kiss on the belly and, you know, couldn't wait for my baby to come. But he didn't make it. And it just crushed me because that was when I, you know, I didn't understand about death and, you know, all of that. So that was a real hit for me at that age that I had lost my baby. I thought it was some, you know, I had a guilt thing about it somehow that I'd done something wrong. But I think any child that goes through a thing like that. But we all grieved over him. Not just me, but I. More than the others, because he was supposed to be mine. I was picturing how I was going to rock him and how I was going to sing him my songs and, you know, and all that, but. But we loved all the kids, and we all helped with all the kids.

[Dolly Parton]

You've spoken about the influence of your family. So would you say that Larry's spirit and the memory of him has continued to impact you both personally and professionally? Because after that, he passed away when you were 9, correct. And then at 10 is when you, like, started performing and kind of like. I don't know, I feel like maybe it was kind of like a push. Was that your way of dealing with the pain?

[Joyce Meyer]

No, no, I don't think that had anything to do with it. I was so musically oriented anyway, and I had my dreams. It did take me a while. I was so depressed as a little kid over that. Took me a while to kind of overcome that. I mean, you know, weeks, you know, months, kind of where I really wasn't all that interested in stuff. But I don't think that had anything to do with the rest of my life. It just taught me about grief, you know, how we all have to learn those things at some age. And so that was, you know, that was a real hard hit. But no, that after I got over the grief of that and I moved on, I knew he was in heaven and, you know, we would. If Mama could handle it, certainly I could. You know, that kind of thing. But I just was ready to go on. And my Uncle Bill was pushing me on, and he saw my desire and my dreams, and so we would. He would take me around to, you know, to different local things to sing and on local radio and tv. But all of those things help to make up a human being. All those memories of the bad and the good, you know, I think that just all. You don't even know what. What parts they really play. The little things that happen. It just either, if nothing else, it makes your heart tender or, you know, how you have to protect certain things, and it teaches. You got to know about those things.

[Dolly Parton]

Yes, ma'am, I couldn't agree more. So, you know, at 10 years old, you're starting to work with Uncle Bill, and you guys are going around, you know, you're performing and stuff like that. At 10 years old, a lot of kids are still figuring out who they are. How did you find your confidence to stand out and perform at such a young age like that?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I was always writing songs. I was always able to rhyme. And Mama was always fascinated. And there was always so much commotion in a house with that many kids.

[Dolly Parton]

Oh, I can imagine.

[Joyce Meyer]

And none of us really got any real special attention Unless we were in trouble or, you know, or something. You were going to get called out with something. But I learned early on, Mama was always fascinated. And, you know, when I'd sing these songs that I'd written, I would hear people talk, I'd hear stories. So I was writing songs at 8, 7, 8, 9 years old about people getting killed in the war and things that I'd never seen or done. But I was able to rhyme and write. And Mama would. She would always. I noticed early on that I'd get more attention because of that. And of course, everybody wants to be paid attention to. Everybody wants to be special. So when somebody come to our house, mom would often say, run and get your guitar. And then she'd say, whoever was. I want you to hear this thing this little thing wrote I want you to hear this song this little thing wrote. And so I'd be really just singing my song. And I was getting all that extra attention, which is making some of the other kids jealous because they weren't doing it. But they didn't work as hard as I did. But learning them chords, I had little calluses on my little fingers, you know, cut deep. They were hard, they hardened. I had to really learn it till it hardens those calluses for you to play. So I took the time to do a lot of the things that some of the little younger ones weren't willing to do. So I just saw that that was. And I got the confidence from Mama bragging on me. And I knew That I could do something special that some of them couldn't. You know, playing the guitar and all that. But I just. And then my uncle Bill, he took great pride in me. And anytime somebody would tell me, oh, you're going to be good, you're this. I just kind of took that and my personality was very, you know, susceptible to that kind of stuff.

[Dolly Parton]

Do you feel like you're an old soul because you were able to relate to those songs of like people losing people in the war and stuff like that? Like to be 10 years old and writing songs like that like you, you would have to resonate with them in some way.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I'm just very perceptive and I had the gift of rhyme, as I mentioned, and I had the gift of song. And so I would just hear things and you can always, you know, I was. I could kind of take a story from one other thing and I could change a few things around. So I didn't feel like I was necessarily an old soul or that I had lived before or anything. I mean, I might have. I hope I did. I hope I might live again. Yeah. But I just think I was just able to do that because I had a. I was very perceptive and receptive and I just had a very creative mind. You know, I had a great imagination. So it wasn't hard for me to make up a bunch of junk.

[Dolly Parton]

Well, being around 12 kids, I'm sure to even just get any sort of peace, you had to have a great imagination.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, I'd sneak up because there was a lot of kids going on. I'd sneak out behind the woodshed or around the outhouse, sit back there, do whatever, you know, write my songs, find a shady spot or a warm spot. But yeah, I was always into that guitar and always writing my song.

[Bunny]

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[Dolly Parton]

I love everything that you do is productive. I want my daughter to watch this. Our Daughter to watch this because she's 16 right now. She's still trying to find her place in this world. And I think it's awesome that, you know, you were so productive at such a young age. Can we talk about uncle Bill?

[Bunny]

Because Uncle Bill really believed in you.

[Dolly Parton]

And he took you to all these shows, and then he landed you in the Cass Walker farm and home hour, and you became a regular on that show. Can you take me on that journey?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, Knoxville was about 30 miles from where we actually lived, and I had an aunt that lived in Knoxville. That was where the show was from. And so I would, in the summer after I got to where I actually got the job when I got old enough to. To be allowed to stay away from home. But, God, I was so homesick. She worked at one of those department stores, and my uncle was a carpenter. So I was there in that house a lot. And I would go up to the top of the hill from where they lived, and I'd catch a bus down to the radio station, take my little guitar, and I would go to walk across the viaduct, I guess is what they call it, like a bridge, have my little guitar, and then I would go do the Kaz Walker show, play my little guitar, do my songs. And Bill wasn't always with me then. Bill was doing a lot of other things. But when I was working on the.

[Dolly Parton]

Bill was living a full life Walker show.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, well, he was doing. He did some other things, but I could go there. And then the guys, the Brewster brothers especially, that worked with the Cass Walker show, they'd back me up and work with me, playing the songs or singing some with me. And then sometimes I'd wait while I was waiting for the bus I just opened, I'd just get my guitar out to be singing. And some people would walk by, and they'd think that I was standing on the corner, and they'd drop money in my guitar case, which I love, because then I'd go home and buy those little jiffy burgers up at the top of the hill from where my aunt lived. They were like little crystal white castle things. Oh, that was the greatest thing. If I made enough, somebody threw enough money in, and then I got onto that to where I just kind of play. It transfers in. I even wrote a song with my brother Floyd called nickels and dimes, and it was about that time when I was walking across. But working with the Caswalk show was amazing. Bill had taken me there early on before I got the job. He's the one that got Me as you. As you mentioned, got me on the Caswalk show, and he'd take me to the. To the fair, the county fair, where I could, you know, join in contests and different things like that. And then eventually he would take me back and forth to Nashville. Yeah. And so he just had. He saw that I was so serious about it, and he saw that I had potential. And I just. And Bill was a great guitar player. Bill wrote great songs. We wrote great songs together. In fact, in 19, I guess it was 67, we won the song of the year, BMI song of the Year, and put it off until tomorrow. Bill Phillips on Decca Records, he was a pretty big artist at the time. And so I got. When I had. We had sent the demo to him from when we'd just written it. Then they wanted me to sing on the demo. So that was kind of like my first kind of break of being heard, like on the. On the real radio. Everybody was. DJs were calling, who's the girl singing with the Bill Phillips on the Bill Phillips song? So anyway, that was kind of a moment, too.

[Dolly Parton]

That's awesome that Uncle Bill's been so pivotal in your career. That's amazing at. At 10 years old, being on the Cast Walker show, who were some of your musical influences? Was there anybody that you wanted to be like, or did you have an idea of like, hey, I'm going to pave my own way?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, all of my people were very musical. And so I think some of my greatest influences were within my own family. I had an aunt Dorothy Jo, one of my mom's sisters. Boy, she played the banjo, she played the guitar, and she wrote great songs. And she was an evangelist. She also was a Pentecostal preacher. I love that. And I used to. Oh, I was just totally influenced by her. But as far as some of the others, there were the kitty, you know, there was kiddie whales on the Grand Ole Opry and Roy Acuff. And there was some early on after I got to. Out to where we really had a little bit more exposure to big radio and all. There was a woman named Rose Maddox. It was the Maddox brothers. And Rose, she worked with her brothers. And that was the. I'd ever seen people dress in the rhinestones. They wore kind of Western, kind of like how the Grand Ole Opry does. But they were the first ones I'd ever seen do that. And so. And they also put a show together a little. They did little bits, little comedy and little things. And I thought that was amazing. So you find that now that I'm older. I look back and I find that I have just picked up bits and pieces from so many people through the years, and I've learned so much that I didn't realize. I'm like a sponge, you know, I just. Without even knowing that I'm doing it. And then later on I'll do something, I'll think, oh, that reminds me so much of when I saw so and so. Or, you know, you just learn. You just learn through watching.

[Dolly Parton]

I always say we're like a masterpiece. Of all the art we pick up from each person, you know, it's just like little gems of their souls that we take with us and that, you know, we look back on and we're like, okay, this influenced this and this influenced that. So I love that you always give credit where credit, because I'm the same way. Like, if I see. If. If anybody asked me, what's your look? I'm like, Dolly. I'm Dolly all day long, you know?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I wish I look like you.

[Dolly Parton]

Oh, stop it.

[Joyce Meyer]

You didn't need me for that.

[Dolly Parton]

Oh, you listen, we could trade outfits right now, and I'd be happy. I love this outfit right here.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, yeah, we love God, I guess.

[Dolly Parton]

Absolutely. Yes. So, circling back, let's talk about the Grand Old Opry. Because you made your first appearance at the Grand Old Opry when you were 13 years old. How was that for you? Walking out on that stage at 13, being introduced by Johnny Cash.

[Joyce Meyer]

It was scary.

[Dolly Parton]

Yeah, I could imagine.

[Joyce Meyer]

My heart was beating like a drum. But I always said my desire to do a thing has always been greater than my fear of it. So I just try to hold on to that. I thought, well, I can't turn around in the middle of stage and run back. I thought, I gotta finish it.

[Dolly Parton]

It's kind of how I felt today.

[Joyce Meyer]

No matter what.

[Dolly Parton]

I was so scared.

[Joyce Meyer]

Oh, no.

[Dolly Parton]

Good way, though. I feel like if you're not scared of what you're doing, you're not growing.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I agree with that. But anyway, that was scary. That was big. That was, you know, working with just being around all those big others. But I was also in awe of it. And I. Like I said, of course, I mean, I was just country kid. You know, you're always nervous when you first time you ever eat in a restaurant around people. You're not used to knowing how to do that, what spoons and forks. And even to this day, I still don't know exactly when I go to these big, fine meals and all that. But I figure, well, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't a star or. So to hell with them. I'm going to eat what I eat and do how to. But I still would like to know those things. But I just never wanted to and now I don't care, you know, that I. You know, sometimes you think, oh, it.

[Dolly Parton]

Gets to a point where you've earned.

[Joyce Meyer]

You just kind of watch other people. That's how you. How you learn and say, well, I watch them, and when they pick that up, I'll pick that up and I'll do this and I'll do that.

[Dolly Parton]

I could never, I could not point out a salad fork to you if somebody paid me. I don't know how to do that either.

[Joyce Meyer]

That's what I'm saying. I just kind of watch if it's a big old big thing, like if I'm invited to eat the Royal Family or something. You think I'm very uncomfortable. Yeah, but so, I mean, I better watch so I don't make a fool of myself or them.

[Dolly Parton]

So, circling back to the Opry, Johnny Cash introduced you and he's known for his powerful presence and mentorship. What do you remember about your interaction with him that night?

[Bunny]

And did he say anything to you.

[Dolly Parton]

That stuck with you throughout your career?

[Joyce Meyer]

He said hello. That stuck with me because at that time I thought, see, I had seen Johnny Cash at another time when we were sitting in the audience and I had the biggest crush on him.

[Dolly Parton]

Oh, my goodness.

[Joyce Meyer]

Because he had so much magnetism and I was young, you know, I was just beginning to feel those hormones and look at, you know, to where you feel those things.

[Dolly Parton]

I never felt very masculine energy.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, he did, you know, he had all that, you know, movement. And I found out later it's cause he was coming off drugs. Oh, no, he just had twitches of what I thought was magnetism. I love that. But there was some truth in that, I think, you know, the way he.

[Dolly Parton]

Was a Pisces, Right?

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah. But I loved him. And as. For years and years, I told him he was my first crush. And he was. And then. So in my Broadway musical, the Life Story, I covered that about Johnny touching me on the shoulder. I mean, it just changed my life because I thought I was growing then because I felt all those feelings. But he was a real nice guy and very quiet. But I became best friends with June and Johnny after. So as the years went by, you know, we. We would visit and we liked each other a little bit.

[Dolly Parton]

She was a good woman. I really. I really.

[Joyce Meyer]

She was A loudmouth like me. So we got along just fine. And Johnny, I remember where somebody said something about Johnny, don't you get tired of hearing June talk all the time? And he said, no, I do some of my best thinking when June's talking. So I think.

[Bunny]

Spoken like a true man.

[Joyce Meyer]

I think he does some of his best stuff thinking when I'm talking.

[Dolly Parton]

I think that's how all husbands are. They just tune us out, you know, they're just so used to us.

[Joyce Meyer]

I'm sure they do.

[Dolly Parton]

When you performed that night, did you already have a sense of, like, the legacy that you wanted to build in country music, or did that experience at the Opry shift your perspective on what was possible for you as an artist?

[Joyce Meyer]

Because at that time, I was just so nervous, and I reflected on that years later, as I still do. But at that time, it was just a big deal, you know, to be there at the Grand Ole Opry with all those big name artists. And so I think that I was just. It was just kind of addling at that time. I was just kind of addled about the whole thing. But I knew that that was, you know, just like when I got my encore on the Cassie Walker show the first time I was on there, and I thought, oh, boy, you know, I'm gonna. I'm going to be a star. And now I. But years later, I realized they weren't applauding so much because I was good. It was just because I was little, you know? No, it wasn't because I wasn't. You know, you have to develop and grow, but you know how everybody wants to be good to a kid. And the fact that I was out there doing it, I think they, you know, people were just extra nice. And I think a whole lot of that might have been so with the Opry, it was just kind of cute when you see a young person doing something, so. But I did feel. And I thought back on it shortly after, thinking, wow, you know, I was on the Grand Ole Opry, and they liked me.

[Dolly Parton]

They asked you for three encores.

[Joyce Meyer]

This is what I want to do.

[Dolly Parton]

Yeah, they asked you for three encores after your first, and I didn't give them to them.

[Bunny]

No, I'm joking.

[Joyce Meyer]

They asked them. Now, actually, they did applaud, and I kept singing the same, you know, last verse a couple of times.

[Dolly Parton]

She's like, this is all you get.

[Joyce Meyer]

This is all practice.

[Bunny]

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[Dolly Parton]

So soon after that you ended up moving to Nashville and you graduated from high school, correct? And then you ended up moving to Nashville and you moved to Nashville with, you know, minimal amounts of money. How did you make ends meet in those early days and were there any creative or unexpected ways you found to survive while pursuing your dreams out there?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, I was lucky because there so many songwriters in Nashville and publishing companies and a lot of the people that write songs are not good singers. So all the publishing companies they hire, if there's female songs that you can get a job singing those songs. So I got work through Tree Publishing company. Buddy Killen was a dear friend and so he would get me on these sessions singing some of the songs that these writers had written, singing the girls songs. And then I didn't have a car, I didn't have a phone, didn't have anything. And so all these musicians because I was a right pretty Girl at that time, you know, just young girl and, you know, so beautiful and so. So I had all these musicians that were on the sessions, always willing to drive me home, always willing to stop showing, buying me a burger. Some of them thinking they might get more and some of them might have. But that was not because I.

[Bunny]

Lucky fellas.

[Dolly Parton]

I know.

[Joyce Meyer]

But seriously, it's like they were always so good to me. Everybody seemed to know that my heart was in a good place and that I was just a country girl. I was funny, you know, I was always cracking jokes or, you know, just being, well, like I am now, really. But everybody got a kick out of me. So I was just one of the boys because I had six brothers and all my uncles and my grandma. I was not a bit shy around the men, and I knew how to, you know, how to maneuver with all that. So I made money. And then I also got on a small salary with Trees Publishing Co. In those early days. And then later I got with the Combine Music with Fred Foster, Monument Records, they had a publishing company. So I got always lucky that I always got a little bit of a salary as a writer of my own songs, in addition to being able to sing some of the demos.

[Dolly Parton]

She's like, I figured it out, sister. I did what I had to do. I love that.

[Joyce Meyer]

So I used to go in the early, early days, I would walk down to the hotels and I would walk through the hallways, and I would see all the trays out on the. Out in front of the doors, and any food that, you know, like all those little mustard and ketchup packets and bottles, I'd take those all back and anything that looked like, you know, that was pretty decent to still eat, I would get it. I would just kind get a napkin off of the tray and put it all in my purse.

[Dolly Parton]

Just whatever you had to do to survive.

[Joyce Meyer]

And there was a restaurant down around 12th Avenue at that time. And this was different places I lived, but right above the hill, it was called Cowser's. It became very famous. It was a meet in three, and the Cowser brothers owned it. And I would walk down there and they liked. And so they would give me free food. They would give me a good meal, but I would clean off the tables and I would refill the salt and pepper shakes, and I would, you know, do all the things that you do like that. So I could. I would do that. I didn't get it for money, but I got good food. And then they would pack me stuff to take home, too.

[Dolly Parton]

Aw, that is so sweet. I never knew what a meet in three was until I moved to Nashville. My husband was like, we're going to go to a meet in three. And I was like, what is that? And I love them now. I think the concept is so awesome, and I think they need them all over. Everywhere. Not just in the south, like on the west coast and everywhere. I think it. They would just be a hit.

[Joyce Meyer]

But I guess if somebody out there don't know what a Meat in three is. Yeah.

[Dolly Parton]

Oh, yes.

[Joyce Meyer]

Wherever the choice of meat, whether it be meatloafing, it's like three. Three vegetables, three side dishes. You get.

[Dolly Parton]

Yes.

[Joyce Meyer]

But, yeah, all of those terms. I never. I remember once my. I was on the road with one of my brothers, and we were just. He played the bass and one of my first bands, and we'd stopped at a truck stop, and he had. I guess he looked at the menu, and it had corned beef and cabbage when they brought it, and he said, well, where's my corn? Because he didn't know it was corned beef. Fred. From corn.

[Dolly Parton]

Corn to beef.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, it's corned beef and cabbage. And he said, well, where's my corn? She said, well, did you want corn, sir? He said, well, it said it was corn.

[Dolly Parton]

He took it literal.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, we always. There's jokes about those things with country boys coming to Nashville to tell their.

[Dolly Parton]

So.

[Joyce Meyer]

Their stories.

[Dolly Parton]

So switching gears, we're gonna. We're gonna talk about Carl for a second, because you came to Nashville. Did you think coming to Nashville you were gonna meet the love of your life?

[Joyce Meyer]

No.

[Dolly Parton]

As soon as you came here, I.

[Joyce Meyer]

Left two boyfriends back home that had wanted to marry me, and I kept saying, no, I'm going to move to Nashville. You know, when I, you know, I mean, different. Well, I left two boyfriends.

[Bunny]

I love that there was two of them.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, Well, I. You know, I dated. Not at the same time, but they were like, in that it's okay if you did. Well, I know that's true, too, but my point is that I thought, well, the last thing I want is a boyfriend. I got it, you know, because I'm leaving two boyfriends here. And I kept saying, no, I'm going to Nash. And so I got here and I thought, well, that's the last thing. I'm going to get caught up with some boy, you know, until I get my feet on the ground, get things going. And the very day I got to Nashville, I met Carl Dean. And 60 years later, I'm still with Carl Dean. But that's the one that took. Yeah. We've been together 60 years. We've been married 58 going on. That's six decades. Yeah, well, it took. But anyway, he's a good guy and, you know, he's quiet and I'm loud and we just. We're funny. Oh, he's hilarious. And I think one of the things that's made it last so long through the years that we love each other, we respect each other, but we have a lot of fun. Anytime things get too much tension going on.

[Dolly Parton]

Yeah.

[Joyce Meyer]

We. Either one of us can, like, find the joke about it.

[Dolly Parton]

Yeah.

[Joyce Meyer]

To break the tension. And where it's not, we don't let it go. You know, so far, we never fought back and forth. And I'm glad now.

[Dolly Parton]

That's amazing.

[Joyce Meyer]

We never did. Because once you start that, that becomes a lifetime thing. I've seen it with so many people, and I thought, I ain't ever starting that. I don't. I can't. I couldn't bear to, you know, think that he'd say something I couldn't and take, you know.

[Dolly Parton]

Yeah.

[Joyce Meyer]

It would hurt, you know, because I'm a very sensitive person toward other people and myself. You know, you don't. You know, you may hurt people's feelings not knowing it, but knowingly you don't do it. Yeah.

[Dolly Parton]

Yeah, absolutely. Jay and I always say you have to be comfortable with having uncomfortable conversations and you have to be best friends like that. Best friends before lovers. Like, you have to remember why you fell in love with each other. And we have. We're only eight years in, but I can't wait to be 60 years in with them like you and Carl. In a world where love and marriage is often romanticized, what do you think was the most important but sometimes overlooked aspect of you and Carl's relationship?

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, he was homebody. And that worked well for us, you know. Cause he was in. Well, he was in asphalt paving, but he just. His son. I don't know anybody out there that goes by astrology. Pay attention to that.

[Dolly Parton]

Astrology.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, he's cancer and I'm Capricorn. And those are compatible soulmates signs. Soulmates. Yeah. Because the Capricorn is the mountain goat and it's always climbing, wanting to look down on the other side. And the cancer is more of a home body. And he really was. He loved to go places if we were going to drive cross country or go where if we had planned a thing. But, boy, he never could wait to get. He wanted to be around home. And I wanted. I'M a gypsy by nature. I just loved Go and love to see what else is out there. But I think that he's just. That's. That's worked well for us. He's not the least. He loves music, but he's not the least bit interested in being in it. And he told me that right up front. I begged him to go with me in 67. We'd got. We got married in 66. So that's when I got. Won the first award for the BMI Song of the year. And I rented him a tux and, you know, begged him to go. And he did. And, oh, he was so uncomfortable the whole night. As soon as we got hit the door, he started pulling off stuff, you know, he thought he was just so. He said, look, now I want you to do everything you want to do, and I wish you the best, but don't ever ask me to go to another one of these damn things, because I ain't. And he never did. So we just kind of have that respect. And I respected that because I didn't know he was going to be that uneasy. But he doesn't even like to go out to, you know, to big dinners or anything like that. So even on anniversaries and stuff like that, we usually stay home and make something special, do something special like that. But he does. Or go to McDonald's or go somewhere we want to go this comfortable or to go to. Now we will go to Mexican restaurants. He does. He will go in, sit in a booth and do that. He loves that.

[Bunny]

Does Carl love nachos?

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, he does. He loves Mexican food, period. But we go, you know, we'll go sit in a booth, like if it's an anniversary or. Or just sometimes on a Saturday, we just go. We know where to go when the. Before the crowd comes. He doesn't like big crowds. But anyway, he's just special to me and I just love him like he is.

[Dolly Parton]

You light up whenever you talk about him. Well, I love to see that he's good.

[Joyce Meyer]

Everybody loves Carl.

[Dolly Parton]

What's something that you would want the world to know about Carl that they don't know?

[Joyce Meyer]

He don't want me to tell the world nothing about Carl.

[Dolly Parton]

I love that. I love that he's such a private person.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, he is. I mean, he can. I can talk what I want to, but he'll say, just leave me out the whole damn thing. Don't, don't. He would say, don't say nothing I said, but I do all the time because he's funny.

[Dolly Parton]

Yeah. I love that so much. And I also wanted to tell you, I always tell everybody, whenever they give me, they're like, oh, you're like a young Dolly. And I'm like, Dolly's birthday is January 17th. Mine's January 22nd. So we're on the same cusp. And that's, like, always my thing. I'm like. I'm just like, Dolly. Like, I love that. So we have the same cusps that we're on the 17th through the 22nd. So moving on from sweet Carl. Okay, Gotcha.

[Joyce Meyer]

Oh, boy. We could talk forever.

[Dolly Parton]

No, there's so much I wanted to talk to you about. So you and I, your signature look, the big hair, the bold makeup and all that stuff, you now have your own makeup line that we have sitting in front of us right now. And can you show me some of your products? Because I am really excited about learning.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, there's a whole bunch of stuff.

[Dolly Parton]

There's so much stuff.

[Joyce Meyer]

We got the lipsticks. You know, we got great lipstick. And so we've got all the beautiful colors, and we have these wonderful glosses, too, with all the different colors. But I've always wanted to have my own line of makeup, and I love lipstick, and you do, too. And I love gloss, and I love the shine, and I love all the beautiful things. And we don't have the full line that we will eventually have. We started out with our lipsticks and with our glosses, and so we're going to have a line of everything. We got our eyeliners in the different colors, and so we've got great stuff. So. Have you not had a chance to see any?

[Bunny]

I did.

[Dolly Parton]

I did get to see it. They wanted me to, like, look at these. No, you're good.

[Bunny]

Oh, look at these right here.

[Dolly Parton]

I mean, you, Dolly, your name is on everything. There's nothing that you haven't covered. I just want to tell you, your Dolly Parton brownies, though, are. I brag about them on my podcast all the time. I will eat those brownies any time of day.

[Joyce Meyer]

They're pop those up. I hope they hope it pops. Our nails are too long.

[Dolly Parton]

Sequoia actually showed me how to do this.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yes.

[Dolly Parton]

There we go.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah. And don't you love these? The rhinestones, so beautiful. I always make my joke of I never leave a rhinestone unturned, and it's got my little name there, but that's the color that would fit you. That's the Jolene Red. You know, we thought, well, we had to have a Jolene color. And then we got our beautiful gold glosses and all the things that go with them. And we have different, different colors, you know, of the, of the lipsticks. We have the gold dust in the gloss and a rose petal which is real, real pink. And so we have different things that we have for that.

[Bunny]

So anyhow, moving on from the lipsticks.

[Dolly Parton]

Because, I mean, and we always need a lipstick stained wine glass. You are selling wine now too?

[Joyce Meyer]

Lipstick stained wine glasses.

[Bunny]

We need the lipstick stained wine glass.

[Joyce Meyer]

We have our chardonnay. We have the Accolades Wine company and went in business together. And this is one that's really, really nice. And eventually, you know, we're like, with the makeup, we're starting out with certain ones, but then eventually we'll have all the things. But right now we have our chardonnay and you can get that in easy stores like Kroger's and stores like that.

[Dolly Parton]

Yes.

[Joyce Meyer]

And in the wine and beer stores.

[Dolly Parton]

So we were also smelling backstage, we opened up your.

[Bunny]

That's the good one.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, that's my. That was my original.

[Bunny]

Yes.

[Joyce Meyer]

And now this is the. They're doing this as a, you know, special thing. This one's just a collect, kind of almost like a collector's item. And I can't, I can't wait for everybody to try this.

[Dolly Parton]

This is the one we tried in the dressing room. And it smells so good. I love everything that you've done and everything that you've branded your name on. You have cookbooks, I mean, you have children's books. There's so many people that mess me when they found out on my Patreon that we were going to be doing this podcast together. And they wanted me to thank you for the Imagination books that you have.

[Joyce Meyer]

The Imagination Library is as proud of that as anything I've ever done where we give books to children from the time they're born till they start school. And yeah, we've given over, I think 250 million books out since we started. Yes, but that's all good. But I'm very proud of all the things we got in the little Billy the Kid books is based on stories that I've. Children's songs that I've written. Well, the Christmas one is based on a song I wrote, but the others are children's things that they need to know about. And I mean, if you've got a good book and you got makeup and you got perfume and you got wine, what else do you need?

[Dolly Parton]

I need some of your Jolene's.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, you do.

[Bunny]

Oh, The Jolene's.

[Dolly Parton]

I need some of the Jolenes.

[Bunny]

They're coming out soon, so I need them.

[Joyce Meyer]

They're called Jolene's.

[Dolly Parton]

I love it.

[Joyce Meyer]

Yeah, and you probably got a pretty butt, so they'll probably look good on you.

[Dolly Parton]

Well, I got. I got hips and I got hips. So we need. We need to slap some hips in there.

[Joyce Meyer]

I think they look good on everybody. I gotta get me some of those too.

[Dolly Parton]

I love it so much, Jolene.

[Joyce Meyer]

Boy, for a hussy that's trying to steal my man, she's gone. She's done pretty good by me, ain't she?

[Dolly Parton]

I think Jolene might be your alter ego.

[Joyce Meyer]

She might be.

[Dolly Parton]

Ms. Dolly, thank you so much for giving me your time and I appreciate you. And thank you so much for just letting me be in your world for a little bit today.

[Joyce Meyer]

Well, thank you for being in mine. And we're not dumb blondes. No, by long.

[Dolly Parton]

No, we are not.

[Joyce Meyer]

But anyway, I love the title of your show and you have a huge following and I was honored that you wanted me to be on the show.

[Dolly Parton]

Thank you. I appreciate you so much.

[Joyce Meyer]

Now I want to be more like you.

[Dolly Parton]

No, you are so sweet. I think I'm just going to continue to just walk in your footsteps and do whatever I can to be more Dolly. Like I always think, what would Dolly do so well?

[Joyce Meyer]

Lord, I'll do anything.

[Dolly Parton]

Me too. That's what got me here. So thank you, Miss Dolly.

[Joyce Meyer]

Thank you.

[Dolly Parton]

Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.

[Bunny]

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