Hollywood Undead: The Masks Came Off

Summary

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Dumb Blonde Podcast – Hollywood Undead: The Masks Came Off

Host: Bunnie XO
Date: September 8, 2025
Guests: Johnny 3 Tears (George), Charlie Scene (Jordon Terrell) of Hollywood Undead

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Episode Overview

Bunnie XO welcomes two members of Hollywood Undead—Johnny 3 Tears and Charlie Scene—for a candid, hilarious, and raw conversation. The masks come off as they discuss their childhoods, the crazy beginnings of the band, addiction, trauma, friendship, and how they've evolved personally and musically over 20 years. The interview features wild stories, intimate confessions, band lore, and memorable moments, capturing the heart of what has kept Hollywood Undead standing through chaos and change.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Hollywood Undead's Early Days and Band Dynamics

• Band Origins & Lore:
  • The group formed from childhood friendships and a collection of broken-up bands in East/Northeast LA.
  • “Some of us [have] known each other since before we could... three, four years old.” – Johnny [11:06]
  • Initial MySpace success shocked them—label offers and celebrity support came fast and unexpectedly.
• Monikers & Masks:
  • The guys reveal the origins of their stage names and the creation of their iconic masks.
  • “With the masks you want to—if you're—it would be lame to have masks and be like, 'I am George.'” – Johnny [28:10]
  • Fun detail: Charlie originally wore a Del Taco bag as his "mask" until their first record deal.
  • “I just want free soft tacos, dude.” – Charlie [30:12]

2. Band Camaraderie, Fallout, and Resilience

• Brotherhood Tested:
  • Despite losing original members and navigating lawsuits, the band survived thanks to deep roots and friendship.
  • “It’s a lot like a marriage.” – Johnny [11:07]
  • “We’ve gotten through most of them because of friendships we had prior.” – Johnny [11:24]
• Deuce Controversy:
  • For the first time, the guys discuss the infamous split with Deuce, dispelling rumors and sharing their perspective.
  • “It wasn’t the way we wanted it... None of us made that decision. He left.” – Charlie [54:45]; [54:47]
  • Issues included controlling behavior, legal disputes, and a physical altercation.
  • “Who starts a fight, loses, and then sues?” – Johnny [57:51]
  • Despite it all: “I don’t even have any hard feelings towards any of these people now.” – Johnny [59:07]

3. Growing Up: Childhoods, Upbringing, and Trauma

• Contrasting Upbringings:
  • Johnny shares a story of neglect, trouble, juvie, and early depression leading to anger and addiction.
  • “I was very angry... all that stuff was just an extension of trying—that repressed stuff coming out.” – Johnny [18:33]
  • Charlie had a stable, arts-supportive home, contrasting drastically with Johnny.
  • “My house was always the party house. She let everyone go there and crash and... gave you guys, like, a safe space.” – Charlie [24:17]
• Reflections on Parenting and Breaking Cycles:
  • The guys talk about breaking generational trauma, sobriety, and creating stable environments for their own kids.
  • “My role now is...to arrest those things and steer a different course.” – Johnny [19:50]

4. Addiction, Recovery, and Changing Culture

• Winding Stories of Benders & Sobriety:
  • Johnny opens up about a decade-plus battle with cocaine and alcohol, hitting rock bottom after his wife left him.
  • “You will lose everything in pursuit of these things… there are consequences.” – Johnny [35:40]
  • Charlie avoided hard drugs after seeing his dad’s addiction spiral:
    “For the most part, beer is fine for me.” – Charlie [40:18]
• Changing Attitudes in Youth:
  • They’ve noticed a big generational shift, with fewer young people drinking or using drugs.
  • “Number of kids that don’t do drugs and don’t drink has skyrocketed... that was 90% of our era.” – Johnny [36:59]
  • Newfound so briety: Johnny’s two years clean.
    “Life is much more fulfilling without that stuff.” – Johnny [73:36]

5. Musical Evolution & Future

• Evolving Sound:
  • The band continues to push boundaries—new singles are sonically diverse, and they’re excited to be working with producer Tyler Smith.
  • “What I always like... is nothing like what we’ve done before.” – Johnny [76:23]
• On Genre-Bending:
  • Openness to country and any genre:
    “We do have the luxury of doing any genre… fans are almost expecting us to do a country song.” – Charlie [77:01]
• Touring:
  • Upcoming tour with Falling in Reverse and Slaughter to Prevail (September, US/Canada).
  • “Catch you guys on tour... this summer.” – Host/Bunnie XO [78:03]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“He had this trick where if you take a knife...and you put your D on a cutting board...it looks like you’re chopping your dick off. So I do that as a gag.”
– Charlie Scene, wild party tricks [8:27]

“At least [90s LA gangsters] had more balls. I almost prefer the gangsters over the hipsters.”
– Johnny, on LA's gentrification [15:37]

“We’ve been on four labels. We’ve been sued, sued back. We’ve been on five, six, seven management groups...everything you can imagine that can go wrong has gone wrong. But you guys are still standing.”
– Host & Johnny [12:03–12:08]

“When we stopped caring about whatever, you know, the rules were, was when it actually worked out.”
– Johnny [26:55]

“You guys look so intimidating...you have such alpha personas. But sitting here—you’re like just sweet little babies.”
– Bunnie XO [30:43]

“If you want to stop vaping, you have to actually want it. Hypnotist can’t help if you don’t.”
– Hypnotist story, Johnny [7:13]

“We all hang out, and yeah, we all get along very well...we’re all, like, best friends.”
– Charlie Scene on current band dynamics [12:15]

“Piece of shit.”
“He’s been saying that since you guys were kids.”
– Charlie describing Johnny, affectionately [59:29–59:31]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Childhoods and Band Origins: [12:23–15:58]
• Wild Party Stories & Camaraderie: [8:22–10:28]
• Generational Trauma & Addiction: [17:31–21:00], [33:42–38:48]
• Band Breakups/Deuce Departure: [54:06–58:24]
• Masks, Names, and Band Evolution: [27:01–30:41]
• Industry Insight & Label Stories: [46:37–49:35]
• Musical Identity and Evolution: [66:16–68:57]
• Sober Life & Life Lessons: [73:06–74:58]
• Upcoming Projects & Tour Info: [75:14–78:11]

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

• The authentic personalities behind Hollywood Undead shine through—equal parts wild, vulnerable, and mature.
• Behind the masks are lifelong friends who’ve weathered losses and learned hard truths, growing musically and personally.
• Although their early years were about chaos, flash, and rebellion, their recent focus is on family, healing, and honest artistry.
• The band’s future: genre exploration, major tours, and never backing down from their original spirit.

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Where to Find Hollywood Undead

• All platforms: /hollywoodundead
• Charlie Scene: @therealcharliescene
• Johnny 3 Tears: (variations of @johnnythreeteirs)

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“Catch you guys on tour with Falling in Reverse this summer.”
– Bunnie XO [78:03]

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Transcript

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

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[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Hey, guys, I need to ask you a question. I want to know, why in the hell are you not on Patreon? I don't think you guys even realize how much content we have on Patreon. Let me break it down for you. What? Have the Bunny XO show. We have Meet the Deforts, we have Papaganda. We have more shows that we're adding. And not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Head over to www.patreon.com Dumblon Podcast and sign up. Is this thing on? What's up, you sexy? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I have some of my west coast boys in the house. Baby Johnny three tears. Charlie Sheen from Hollywood Undead Scene or Sheen Charlie?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Scene.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Charlie Scene. I wish. You know, I love Charlie Sheen, though, too.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

She gets them mixed up, too.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. I'm so sorry. It was the. It was the sh That I had on.

[Charlie Scene]

You know what's weird is by chance, we have the same birthday. September 3rd, me and Charlie Sheen. And he tweeted me on our birthday, and he said, happy birthday to us.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

How fucking iconic is that? Insane that he even knows who you are.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, my God. I love that so much. So you're a Virgo?

[Charlie Scene]

I'm a Virgo.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Are you a ladies man?

[Charlie Scene]

No, man's man.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I don't believe it. I don't believe it. My dad was September 4th, and he loved a vagina. Like, he literally. You could not get that man away from women to save his life. I feel like Virgo men just love women. He's like. He's like, maybe in another life, he loves his wife.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Vagina.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Yes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Maybe that's like, more than most men who are married that long. How long have you guys been married for?

[Charlie Scene]

Since 2013. 12 years.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, that's a long time. I love that you still love her vagina. Because most men. Lean variety. Do you need variety?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No. No. I've been married a long time as well. And one vagina.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that. I love that you guys have, like, this rowdy reputation and you. Yet you guys are just like, well.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That'S why we're so rowdy. Where one vagina pisses you off. You got to go like other stuff.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, you just got to go and break.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

The rest of the world's like a wrestling ring to us.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So take me back to this conversation we were just having about the vapes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. So the vaping, because it messes my vocal cords up and, you know, I mean, it's obviously not good. And I did the hypnotist thing. I actually went to the hypnotist for other things to try and be less crazy and like, some other. Because they'll. They'd say they can do anything.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Was this recent?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, it's been over the course of like a year. I've been going.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So you. Okay, so the reason why this even got brought up. Let me just bring you guys in the circle of trust here. Is because Charlie wanted to vape, and I was just like, no, this is a no vaping zone, but you can go outside and vape, but whatever. And I was telling them that vaping is bad for you. And then that's when you told me that you went to the hypnotist.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, so I was trying to quit.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So did they, like, put you on? Did it really work? Do you feel like you really got put under?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. Well, so I've gone like 10 times. I went for other things first, like, for anxiety. You can go for anything. Yeah, people go in there for all ptsd, all kinds of stuff. So I went just to see what it was like, because I wanted just to see if it worked. Just kind of curious by nature. And so we were doing other things. And yeah, I would say it works. Like, you kind of go. And then it's not like the TV shows, though, or the movies where, like, you, like. And they Doing the clock thing. None of that stuff happens. You feel like you fell asleep, though, is what I would say. And you feel like. It's almost like when you take a nap and you're not sure if you did. You know, you're like, did I fall asleep? You have to almost say, was I asleep?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That would give me anxiety.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, but you. You're not. You're not sure if you fell asleep.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I'd be like, did you touch me inappropriately? Like, you know, because you don't know what's happening. Like, did we. Did we just.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Scottish guy, too. So I'd be like, dude, but yeah, so I did it, and it didn't work. Like, the. The vaping thing. But he also told me. He's like, do you really want to stop vaping? And I was like, no. He's like, well, it's probably not going to work. Yeah, you have to really. You still have to like want to do those things.

[Charlie Scene]

Most people say it's a one time thing. That's what I've always heard. Like you go in and then you leave and you don't want to smoke anymore.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

But that I was not my experience. I quit for that day. And by the end of the day I was. I put all my vapes and water like so I can, you know, to really try. And I was at 7:11 by the end of that day. I was drinking the juices.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Is, is it your only vice though? Because, I mean, coming from the lifestyle that you guys used to live, if you're. If all you're doing is vaping, I mean, it's.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Have your fun sometimes. Sometimes it's one of many.

[Charlie Scene]

Johnny has one of the most addictive personalities you'll ever find.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I have four vapes on me, Johnny.

[Charlie Scene]

Four vapes.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That seems from your childhood though. So I. I grew up on you guys, but I never knew your entire lore. I knew kind of like the drama around the band and stuff like that. Because of course, you know, being from Vegas. Yeah, Cali, we heard about all the.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That we used to run around up there too.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, for sure. But I never got to like really get into you guys as lore. And I actually got to like really deep dive you guys and you guys have really fascinating stories. Like, I think it's really interesting and I want to dive into that. But first, I have a very serious question I want to ask you. Do you really have a weenie that you like to show?

[Charlie Scene]

No.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He did though.

[Charlie Scene]

I did back in my heyday.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Did you use to flap it around all the time?

[Charlie Scene]

Well, just like in front of my friends, I had this trick. Yeah, I had this trick where if you take a knife but you don't, you use the flat side, not the sharp side. And you put your D on a cutting board and then you say, hey, guys, look at this. And you smush the knife, like not the sharp side, onto your D. It looks like it's halfway through your penis. So it looks like you're chopping your dick off. So I do that as a gag.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Do we have a cutting board here? I got to see this. Like, this is amazing.

[Charlie Scene]

But then I got a girlfriend, so I couldn't be showing my dick or.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Terrifying looking on first sight too, because. Yeah, but I. So he wouldn't do that, but I would. So I took it. He come up with these great things and then I would just do them. Use his Material. And we'd be on, like, the tour bus. There are people on there. And I would do it and. People?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Strangers and shit.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. I don't mind as much.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

How did you figure this out? Did somebody teach you? Somebody teach you this trick? Is it like a generational thing, like passed down in the family?

[Charlie Scene]

I think I just saw a knife and I was like, oh, I bet you could cut your dick, but with the dull side. It won't go through. I got to show the guys. This one time for my birthday, I had him light his dick on fire.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, my God. Tell me about this story. I gotta hear this story. Okay, the dicks are out. I'm loving this. Yeah, this is my kind of party.

[Charlie Scene]

I had a party. There was probably like 50 people there. I was like, george, I had some lighter flute. I was like, let me put this lighter flute on your dick. And you just run out into the crowd and be like, ah, my dick's on fire. So he's like, okay, fine. He's all fucked up.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

How did he talk you into that? Is what I want to know.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That was it? That was all it took?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. It took very little convincing.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I'm game.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Did it burn your wiener off?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No. No, because. No, it was on my pants. I wasn't, like, on my.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Okay, okay.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I thought we were, like, running around with socks on. Like.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Well, okay, so it was open. My pants were open.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I didn't have any pubes after.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So it was like a free wax.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Did they ever grow back?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, unfortunately.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Just like, patchy.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That was the one downside is they grew back.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh. Just all patchy looking. Like a calico cat down there.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

It doesn't look sing. It's bad looking.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That is hilarious. You guys seem like. You guys have such a cool camaraderie with you guys, with there being so many of you in the band. Because I know in the beginning there was, like, seven of you, right?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And then now it's down to five.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Is that. I know back in the day, you guys had your drama, but now that you guys are older and more, you know, evolved. How is it with you guys now? The five of you?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, I would say. I mean, being in a. Now that you're. We're a little older and probably, you know, it. It's easier now. We get along a lot better than we've always gotten along. The good thing about. We've been friends since I'm. Some of us since preschool. Like, really, really young. Some of us known Each other since we're like, before we can three, four years old.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So that helped us get through a lot of the harder times. You know, being in a band is. Is as anybody who's been in a band has a lot of ups and downs. It's very trying at different times. And we've been a band for 20 years, and there's been ups, bent downs, and everything in between. So it's a lot like a marriage. And when you're going through those things, it can test those relationships. I mean, you hear about bands who are best friends and then they're suing each other.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And these things going on, we've never gotten in any of those situations. You know, relationships can kind of suffer under those circumstances, but we've gotten through most of them because of the. The friendships we had prior to those things. You know, some things don't make it through that. Sometimes people just change and things change. And that's unfortunate. But if we didn't have the basis of, I think, friendship prior to that, with what we've been through with. We've been, you know, we've been on four labels. We've been sued, sued back. We've been on five, six, seven management groups. Everything that you can. You've heard of that a band can go through with the music industry. Oh, yeah, we've been through.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, we're going to talk about that, too.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I mean, everything you can imagine that can go wrong has gone wrong.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. But you guys are still standing, which is like, such a testament to you guys, just individually and together.

[Charlie Scene]

We get along better now than we ever did. Like, I'd say, like, in the past five years, like, we're all, like, best friends. We all hang out, like, you know, and yeah, we all get along very well.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You can hear that in the music, too, because you guys have grown so much and the music has evolved. But before we jump into that, I want to you guys to take me back to your childhoods and growing up. Where did you guys grow up and how did you guys meet?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I grew up in Glassell park by, like, Dodger Stadium, Northeast la. And then I grew up with Jay, who's in the band, and then Deuce, who used to be in the band. We grew up in the same area in Northeast Los Angeles, and we kind of. I. Those are the two guys. We used to go to the same preschool and stuff like that. Our parents would drive us to school and stuff.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That's insane.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I know. Yeah. It is kind of wild to think about, like, his Jay's mom used to. We. They would, like, take turns driving us to school. We went to school on Los Feliz in Hollywood. And that was back when it was like East. East Hollywood kind of ghetto area. And it was a long time ago. Now. It's kind of weird to think about because it's like, it doesn't even look like it used to. It's weird when I go back there now. It's like one of the reasons I left LA in general is because growing up there, it was like our neighborhood, Hollywood in general. That whole area was kind of ours. And towards the end, there was so many more people there. And I suppose this is probably how Nashville feels to people who live here for a long time is like, I felt like an outsider. There was far more of them than us.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And so I was like, well, I might as well just go. And then him and funny.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I grew up in a town called Shadow Hills, which is around Burbank area in la. Kind of like a horse town. I had horses growing up. Like, and then. Yeah. The first guy I met in the band was Jerrell J. Dog because our parents worked together. We were probably like 12. I met funny man playing basketball. We actually had a mutual friend. You ready for a name drop?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Shia LaBeouf.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I have that in my.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Okay. All right.

[Charlie Scene]

Like, I've dropped it many times, obviously.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. You've told the story on other podcasts. Okay. But no, that I think. I think that's still awesome, though, you know, like, that. Like, what a piece of lore to grow up with that crazy nutcase.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, my God. Yeah. He was always crazy.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Was he always crazy?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That's what's nice to know, though, that it's authentic, literally. Yeah, I appreciate that.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. 100. And to. To stem off of what you said a second ago, I grew up in Vegas. Every time I go back to Vegas.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Oh, yeah. It's another place, I'm sure.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Every time I go back to Vegas or Cali, I'm like, this is not the same city that we grew up in. Like, it's just. It's. I. I swear, it's so commercial now, and it's like, lost its sparkle.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, it really do. We're recording right now in Glassell park, which used to be, like, I'm not even kidding. Like a no go zone. The cops wouldn't go there.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

It was so bad. They. The cops wouldn't. The helicopters wouldn't go over because there was a gang there that had, like, bazookas. And anti aircraft stuff. It was like in the 90s, it was insane.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And they, they. There's. The gangs are all still there, but the guy who's producing us now lives there. And we're. And I'm like, he doesn't get it. Yeah, it's still. It's bad. But this guy who's like a little white dude, lives in what used to be like the. One of the worst neighborhoods in L. A. And he doesn't know that. And that's how different it is, is like this dude lives there. Where? You know, back in the day, you can walk through there.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Unless you grew up in that whole scene, you don't get it. Nobody understands.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. The 90s LA was. It was just a different world. And I mean, I. Maybe there's certain things that are better about it, but I almost prefer like the gangsters over the hipsters.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

At least it was like.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

At least they had more balls.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. And it was like, I don't know, they had better.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I feel like there's something to offer. Like the hipsters lost their balls and their skinny jeans, you know, like they've got camel toes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Just. Then they just complain all the time. And the real estate's all, you know, it's gentrified.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That's what they call it. It's like totally gentrified. Yeah, for sure.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I know.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So how did you two meet?

[Charlie Scene]

I met him through my older brother, I guess. I don't know how you met Jesse. Do you remember?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

We got in a fight. We were wrestling.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Was it a real fight?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Was it a real fight?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. He called me Goldilocks because I had long hair. And then I called him Sonic the Hedgehog because he had like sp fighting him or something.

[Charlie Scene]

You guys fought?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, we fought, but it wasn't like a mean fight. It was a fight to see, like a male dominance but not trying to hurt the others, to see who was stronger.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And then.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

But that's how kids used to figure out back in the day. Like, we used to fight and then you would be friends after that.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know, it really was like that. We were too old for that, but we still. That's how it happened.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. That's what happens if there's no girls at a party. Then you just fight and wrestle.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It's all that testosterone. You guys got to get rid of it somehow.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, we just became buddies and then we just started hanging out all the time. And then.

[Charlie Scene]

Well, no. Yeah. The way I met you was I came Home from playing basketball. And he was on the driveway with my older brother. He's like, hey, this is my friend George. But he got so drunk that night, my mom bought El Pollo Loco. And he was trying to eat it, but he was so drunk it fell on the floor. And he tried to pick it up. So he just, like fell and was eating beans, like, laying down on the floor. I was like, jesse, this is the biggest piece of shit I've ever met in my life.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And I didn't eat the beans off the floor. I was pretending to eat the beans.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

But. Can we have a moment of silence for the creamy cilantro sauce with El Pollo Loco?

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, God, that was so good.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

El Pollo Loco and Del Taco.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Del Taco Fire. No cream of cilantro is still there. You just gotta pay extra for it. Like back in the day, they used to give you loads of it.

[Charlie Scene]

Right.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Okay, so let's talk about mom and the mommy stuff that's going on. What it was going on in your household?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Oh, well, you know, I didn't have a good. You know, the upbringing stuff wasn't good.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I just had a lot of resentment and stuff.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Was she a single mom?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No. My parents are kind of nuts, you know, and as I've gotten older, I guess I. I've learned to separate something. You know, we're all human beings and stuff.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Absolutely.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. And just a lot of resentment. And it was a very, very bad environment. And I ended up, you know, I got in a lot of trouble when I was young. I ended up in juvie and stuff like that.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Because you were acting out. Yeah. You got your first felony at 15.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, I got a burglary charge. Well, I ended up graduating high school. I went to Central in this place called Challenger Camp. It's in the Antelope Valley, which is where I ended up going to, like I had to go to. Because you have to go to school if you're in jail when you're still a minor. So I ended up going there and I was there until I was 18. Then I got take out. So it was all, you know, it was juvie. It was nothing that. Well, it's not good, but it wasn't bad. But my whole childhood was kind of, you know, it wasn't. It wasn't good.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You're acting out because you needed love and attention, though.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, I don't like to say that because it sounds.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. But yeah, I was.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I was very angry and stuff and, you know.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

But you deserve love and attention.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know, I didn't have any place to go when I was little and, you know, I was living at people's houses and, you know, so you. When you're all the things that I probably needed when I was young, at that point, I think I was like 18 years old. I had got that I was sad when I was young. I was just depressed about it. When I became old enough, then I was just angry about it. And I went through a period of probably a lot of aggression, getting in fights, and all that stuff was all just an extension of trying that repressed stuff coming out. And same with drinking and drugs, all that stuff, you start kind of sorting out that all of that stuff is an expression of coming from the same well sort of thing. And it took me a long time to figure that out. Even though you might know it, it takes a long time to kind of actually realize it.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It takes. Yeah, it takes. I always tell everybody I wish we could be born with the wisdom we have now because God, wouldn't life be so much fudgeing easier if we just knew everything going on?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Even someone telling, you know, it. Hearing something is different than knowing it. You know what I mean? Someone could tell you a million things, but you have to kind of realize it for yourself. So, you know, and as I've gotten older and I have three kids of my own and stuff, you start to realize that, you know, other people are human and a lot of them are fucked up. And a lot of fucked up people.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Have kids of their own and pass on generational trauma.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. And so, you know, you're. My role now is to kind of, you know, To. To. To arrest those things and, you know, steer a different course. And I'm very actively participating and making sure those things don't, you know, go the same way.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And you're breaking those generations.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. That's all you can do, you know?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Absolutely. I think. I think a lot of that TR. Trauma stops with us because our parents back in the day, those do not care. They don't want to hear anything about therapy. They don't want help. They are like set in their ways with being how they were that generation that raised us. And I feel like a lot of us have learned from our parents mistakes and we're like. We don't want to be like them.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

In the end it just. They're not happy and they're hurt and they're they literally were just bleeding on people who didn't cut them.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

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Text fees may apply. Yeah, no, it is true. And, you know, that's. The terrible thing is that, you know, people. The children typically pay the price for people, you know, their unfulfilled dreams or whatever it is they're unhappy about. And it's. It's really unfortunate because the worst thing in the world is seeing a kid in pain. I don't care who you are. I don't care whose kid it is. Seeing a kid. That's a sad child, it's. It's just terrible, and it breaks my heart to think about it. So, you know, if you. If you. Any adult with their own problems, they really. It is. Really is their responsibility to sort through those things out without bringing their. Their own children into it. Because it's just. You're setting up that kid up for a lifetime of their own pain, and then another kid up for a lifetime or whomever that person marries or that person becomes connected to is going to suffer all because you're unhappy with yourself. And, yes, you know, that. That. That generational trauma, it's. It's a handful.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Very important. How was your childhood?

[Charlie Scene]

Mine was pretty good.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was good.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He has the coolest mom.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, yeah, we love cool moms. Because I didn't have a mom, so shout out to the cool moms out there.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. My house was always the party house. She let everyone go there and crash and. Yeah, she was.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

She gave you guys, like, a safe space.

[Charlie Scene]

Totally. Yep. She allowed me to talk to her all the time. She told us to keep it down. I'd say, shut up. You talk to your mom like that? That's my maid. She's annoying. She liked it, though.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

She got a kick out of it.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I love that. That's so awesome.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, so she always. And she. They were cool. They never forced me to go to college. My dad was a. He wanted to be an actor.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

He said they were cool. They never forced me to go to college.

[Charlie Scene]

No, they didn't give a. They're like, do music, act if you want. Like, they. They're all about the arts, so they just supported all the decisions I made with music and all that stuff, so.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that. That's amazing.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. And George moved in with us, too. He lived.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, George. I love this. This is awesome.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. No, his parents are the best.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I love parents like that. That's how my best friend Tasha is. And I literally moved them out here to Nashville to be with me because I grew. I left home at 14 and ended up moving in the trailer park with her and her mom. And, you know, you never forget friends like that. Like, you never forget people who are there for you and your lowest fucking time. Yeah, you guys have a pretty special bond.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

100.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So after you moved in with him, with them, is this when you guys started forming the band or how did that. That work?

[Charlie Scene]

It was around that time.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. We. Because we. We were in bands together and separate. He was in a band called Upright Radio. We were in a band called Three Tiers. I was another. We were like, off and on doing bands. And then we. We. So we, like, were in bands together and separate for, like, years.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So we would live together and then we, you know, we'd hang out and stuff. And then Hollywood Undead kind of formed from, like, pieces of other bands.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Why did you guys not just out of the gates start a band together? Was it just kind of like you guys wanted to have yourself?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

We did, and then we would just go. That wouldn't work out. And go do another band. He did another band. I would do. I stopped doing bands. You said, you know, when you're young and in a band, it's a pain in the ass because it's like, you know, so we would. Bands would break up and he would do it. So everybody was kind of doing their own thing. And then we kind of formed Hollywood Undead from, like, pieces of everybody's thing. And that was, I think, really like more of a. Like a last ditch. Like the. One of the reasons Hollywood and Dead, I think, is so different, differentiated from everything we did, and we had kind of all done. Bands were like, where, you know, I love the Deftones. I wanted to be in a band like the Deftones. Everybody had those models. Hollywood and Dead was really like, let's just do whatever the we want. Because nothing we had done worked. Like, when you're trying to, oh, be in a band like this, or I want to be in a rock bay, we. It really was like, let's just make whatever the fuck we want. That's what Hollywood Undead was. And ironically, when we stopped caring about whatever, you know, the rules were, was when it actually worked out. So it was kind of born from all the broken piece of pieces of other things, of bands from all of us prior experience.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You guys got to go your separate ways. Experience life.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And come together and put all those pieces together like a puzzle piece. How did you guys come up with your names? Have you always been Charlie Seen?

[Charlie Scene]

No, no, no.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I need to hear some of the OG names.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Well, Charlie seemed like I never expected this band to blow up like it did.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So we were like something cool like Blade or some.

[Charlie Scene]

Exactly. No, so it was just like on a whim, like we were seeing kids back then, right? Been rapping about scene kids. So I was like, oh, Charlie scene. And then here we. We are 20 years later too. We just had our 20 year anniversary from the date we put music on MySpace.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That's insane.

[Charlie Scene]

I was 7 years old, now I'm 27.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It's crazy that.

[Charlie Scene]

On Wikipedia. Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

How did you come up with Johnny Three Tears?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Name of the first band I was in was Three Tiers. So I always called myself Johnny. Three years way before Halloween and dead. So when we did monikers, that was it, just. Yeah, that was that.

[Charlie Scene]

And you called yourself Johnny back then?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, Johnny. I always thought Johnny. Johnny can go ahead of anything.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know what I mean? Johnny, Any anything. So Three Tiers was the name of the band I was in since I was like 17, 18 years old. So I just put Johnny in front of it.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know, so that was the whole, the whole deal with that. The mind. And when we did Mask, we were like, well, we got to do monikers and stuff. And that was all just at that point, you know, the names. Because with the masks you want to. If you're. It would be lame to have masks and be like, I am George. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like, you know, it kind of fit the whole.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

But you're a good looking guy. So I'm sure that if you even had a, you know, put a mask on and called yourself George, girls were still going to go crazy.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I wish that was true.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You're married, so obviously you're doing just fine.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Dude. I had to. The first one that went for it, I was like, you want to get married, babe?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You tricked her?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, the first night I met her.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I love that. How did you guys decide on your masks? Like I. Because you guys each have one catered to like your personality. Correct.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, we got lucky. This dude, his name's Jerry Constantine. I always shout this dude out because he's like, he's awesome. He's won like I think when an Academy Award for doing makeup on like Winston Churchill makeup. But he pretty much any movie you've seen with like crazy monsters in it, this guy makes them like all the famous horror movies that you. That aren't CGI now because most of them are.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

But like the thing and all these things he builds These monsters. And so we got in touch with him way back when we first started, and he made them, like. So we went in and kind of told him what we wanted. You know, I'm in the butterflies and the three and stuff. And he made them out of, you know, clay with his hands and designed them by hand. So we got to work with this dude who's, like, a genius, and he's made, like, you know, some of the most famous monsters that, you know, you. Anybody's seen from these movies. And. And he did it from start to finish with us.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Wow.

[Charlie Scene]

I never did a mask back then. I did a Del Taco bag originally because Del Taco is fire.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love you. I love it.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Like, we're doing all these cool maps. Like, I'll just do this bag.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, but listen, you set yourself apart, right?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

How long did the bag last?

[Charlie Scene]

The bag lasted until we signed our record deal. They're like, you can't do a Del Taco bag.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It's like.

[Charlie Scene]

And then.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Unless they pay you. Right.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Or.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Free tacos.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, I just want a free soft tacos, dude.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

The Double Dell cheeseburger. All day long.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, it's so good.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

All day long.

[Charlie Scene]

So they wanted me to, like, change the design on it and. But it just looked dumb. I was like, ah, defeats the purpose. Just wearing a bag on my head that says Charlie. So I was like, I'll just do a bandana. You know, I always like cowboy movies and, you know, the outlaws with the bandana, and it's just easy as to put off and on.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Annoying.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

You can't drink beer through it. Like, it gets soggy and starts falling.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It's like the paper straws. I hate those. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Charlie Scene]

Returning that. So I was like, you know, I'm do a bandana.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, I love that. It's crazy sitting here with you guys and, like, getting to feel your energy now because you guys look so intimidating, like, on stage or, like, even if you guys, like, just listen to your record and don't even know who you guys are. You guys have such alpha, you know, Personas. But sitting here, you guys are like, just like sweet little babies.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

What the fuck?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that. I love that.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Dude, wait to see me vaping, bro.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I love it. I love it. So we have something in common. Your first concert that you went to was Stone Temple Pilots.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, mine too.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Really?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yes. And I was like, I don't share that lore with too many other people. But, like, Scott, is it Wylan Was on stage and we got to see one song. Somebody threw a bottle and it hit him in the head and he lost his on stage and then walked off.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Damn.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That was my first concert.

[Charlie Scene]

That was the first song they. That happened. That he left.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yep. And he left.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Was this like pre the heroin days.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Or like it might have been in the middle of it. I'm not sure. This was in the 90s, so.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. I feel like he was always on.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That video of him playing acoustic with one of the Delo brothers Park. And he's like kind of. Yeah. In the park. Like almost like chubby.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. You can tell that's pre normal.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And like, it really did make me sad because obviously towards the end he looked like a skeleton, you know? Yeah, he's such talented, but you looked so like young and healthy. And it's weird because it was such a brief window where he looked like really healthy and normal. He just looked like a normal dude. And then later he looks so torn up and stuff. But he was such a. Because I'm a big STP fan too. Yeah. Just a sad story.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, no, it's. It's so sad. The Alice in Chains, all that like those are like. I feel like we don't have any like rock stars like that anymore.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No. And with that pain and those. That music, especially the Real Deal, he.

[Charlie Scene]

Had like a really rough life too. He was like raped as a kid and.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. All the drugs.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Well, that explains a lot of, you know, why he was acting out like that.

[Charlie Scene]

Totally.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. Well, like we were talking about earlier, it all comes out in the end.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, absolutely. So you had talked about how you were involved in drugs. When did your drug addiction start?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Right when I had enough money to do them consistently.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Okay, so was this after Hollywood Undead or during or.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, no. I started doing like all call was like when I was 13 is when I really started drinking. Like right when I found I knew I was in trouble when I started drinking because it wasn't like, oh, this is fun. It was like to me, like, it was like, oh, I can. Like I found something that was like gonna get me through life. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was a bad relationship right from the get go. So I tried when I started, I did coke, you know, a couple times when I was like a teenager, like just from other people. And so I would do that periodically. And then when we got signed and stuff like that, and we got money, then I started buying it and you know, because once you coke is obviously not. It's an expensive Drug by comparison. Yeah. And then, yeah, it just escalated and, you know, I started doing coke and.

[Charlie Scene]

Then on tour where it's, like, so easy to get.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, yeah. It used to be everywhere cocaine used to be, and we didn't have to worry about fentanyl, so.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I'd be doing bumps off the back of dirty bathroom stalls at a dive bar.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, coke's trouble. So, I mean, I remember, like, when I started doing coke, I could buy like an eight ball and it would be like, it would last me like a weekend or something, and it would be like, okay. And then it was like an eight ball and would last Friday. And then it was like I wouldn't even leave the house anymore. And it really catches up with you, and it, you know, causes you no end of trade. It just escalates and escalates and escalates and, you know, the. The losses that you incur doing this stuff. You know, I won't even get into that stuff, but, yeah, it's really bad. And I always thought, you know, we. We talk about those things in our songs and always make sure that people understand it's in a negative light because coke is, you know, weed, drink, and all that stuff. It's a good time. I would never tell someone that cocaine is something that, you know, do recreationally. It's not fun. It always ends in a dark, dangerous, horrible place. That stuff has caused me no end of pain and trouble and other people that I know trouble and stuff. And I get it.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I was so coked out one night, I tried to smoke it like it was crack.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You know, like it. That. It's a very deep, dark hole that you go down whenever you are partying, you know, And I used to date, like, the biggest drug dealer, So I got eight balls of coke, cocaine, for 80 bucks, you know, So I was just, you know, and I'm in the strip club, just. It was bad, bad scene. But I get it, and I totally understand what you're saying. I do think that it's important for people to hear the struggles that you've gone through, because, you know, they. They look at you, like, as role models, you know, and they're like, these people have come from the depths of hell and they're out here busting their ass, you know, on tour, performing. But before all. Before they've gotten to where they are now. There was this time in their life, you know what I'm saying?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So, yeah, I mean, years and years and years of it. I'm like, I've only Cleaned up my act in the past few years. I mean, it was gradual too. Like I wasn't going insane. Like there was probably 10 to 15 years where it was just like all hell broke loose. But then my wife left me and like, you know, things like got real bad.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That's good. We love a woman that has boundaries too.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, indeed, every. She had every right to. And it was the right thing to do because I was actually the only thing that kind of like made me like, holy shit. You can act, there are consequences and stuff to these things. But you will lose everything in pursuit of these things. There's no doubt. Eventually. It's really just about whether you're lucky enough to hit rock bottom before you're dead. Because one of those two things is going to happen. You're either going to get, you're going to die or you're going to hit a rock bottom enough to turn you around before that happens.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And it's like a 5050 shot that one or the other is going to happen. Something bad enough is going to happen to make you go, okay, I'm never going to do this again and it will stick. Or you're going to be dead. Because those are really the two outcomes.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Typically, yes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know, your wife or your family leaves or you have an overdose that you know will make you, that will scare you enough or you'll skate along with these smaller losses until you're homeless or something, God knows what. But yeah, it's devastating stuff. And anybody who's seen it knows, like, you know, you know, people end up selling their own other people's shit.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know, the cost is very high. But we have, we do have a lot of young fans. One thing that really makes me happy is we do meet and greets and stuff like most bands and from what we talked to them and I have never. The number of kids that don't do drugs and don't drink. Now it has skyrocketed in comparison. When I was young, every kid drank and did drugs.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Same.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That was 90.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That was our era.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, it's not popular anymore.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

It isn't, it isn't like, oh, like it's very normal to meet a 20 year old and be like, oh, I never even had a drink. Yeah, that was like, that would blow my mind when I was young.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

My makeup artist has never even done cocaine. I'm like, how? Yeah, how does that even.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I thought that was what it was in those makeup cases.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, Literally that's what I used to use. My makeup case Mirror for. You know what I'm saying? So when she told me she had never done cocaine, I'm like, this is crazy. But it's. You're right. It really.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Well, you said that too. People are learning. The newer generations, I think they're learning from our mistakes. And that gives me a lot of hope. And I don't know what it is, what the shift is, but, yeah, it seems a lot less common. And I saw some statistics with, like, alcohol consumption that, you know, alcohol companies are losing business rapidly.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And, you know, by all means, go drink, have fun and all that stuff. But, you know, it's one of those things. Yeah. Yeah. It can get out of hand really quick. You don't need to be drinking every day, and you don't need to be drinking Tuesday in the morning like I used to or whatever.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And I feel like alcohol is sometimes worse than drugs because it's so available.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Literally go and get alcohol any time of the day.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And nobody's gonna say anything.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You're in a band. We'd show up in the morning. Shows and stuff up. We'd be six in the morning. We hammered.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And drinking whiskey. That's completely acceptable. If we worked at a bank or any other job, you'd be like, you're fired. But people laugh it off. It's okay. We really. We could get away with it. So it's a much more slippery slope where these things are accepted in our field. And, you know, so that probably was not the best recipe for a bunch of addicts to work, or not a bunch of addicts, but some me to work in a field.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

He's like, I'm speaking for everybody.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

To work in a field where that stuff is not only allowed, but almost encouraged to a degree.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Oh, they're fucking crazy. That's awesome. You know what I mean? So, you know, if you can handle it, you can handle it. And, you know, everybody has their limits. And it's cool that people encourage people to not, you know, your. Your husband and stuff. And you see these public displays of, hey, I'm. I'm. I'm trying to get healthy. I'm trying to do better. That was, like, frowned upon at one point. People tried to hide that. Now it's like, hey, everybody's rooting everybody on. And to me, that's just really refreshing because that wasn't, like, cool for a long time. Now it's like, hey, let's see how. Let's everybody, let's do all these challenges with each other and see who can, you know.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Get their lives better. And, you know, I think. I think kids today are a lot smarter than the kids were when I was a kid myself.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Thank God, right?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. We caused enough trouble.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Let's switch it over here to you. Growing up in such a, you know, stable environment and loving home, did you battle with addiction also?

[Charlie Scene]

Well, my. My childhood did shift kind of dark. My dad got addicted to drugs. Like, he ended up having to go to rehab. He got it. He had like, insomnia, crazy insomnia that he passed along to me, which sucks. But he got addicted to Somas and all this other shit where he was passing out at our table on Thanksgiving. And so it got really bad and it made me, like, never want to do drugs ever. So I would, like, see anyone do drugs and be like, it's. I would see him. I grew up with him. Getting drunk with him was fun. He started doing coke and, like, we'd be having fun and laughing. As soon as he does coke now he's like, fucking weird and serious. I'm like, shit in your pants. It sucked the fun out of your soul. Like, I never want to do that shit. So it's like I have. I have dabbled in things here and there, but for the most part, like, you know, beer is fine for me.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And he's a good time. He's who you want to hang out with when you're. When you're drinking.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, he seems like it.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, he's. He's usually the life of the party. He'll make you laugh and stuff.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. You remind me of my best friend Kyle, who passed away. He was just such a sweet soul. Isn't that crazy, though, how, like, you can go one of two ways whenever you see a parent that's an addict, you can either follow in their footsteps, like, even unwillingly, it just sometimes happens, or you go the complete opposite way of like, which you did, and you were just like, no.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Learned from a very young age that that's something that you didn't want to do.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Made me.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

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[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So it was J Dog, Deuce, Shady, Jeff, Charlie, Scene, Johnny Three Tears, Funny man, and Decurls.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So that was the original group. Can you guys take me on that journey with you guys? Like, when you started dropping music on MySpace, you guys said that Tom from MySpace wanted to sign you.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, yeah, he almost did.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

The band first started, actually, with Deuce and J Dog. They made like, a hip hop song. Like, 50 Cent had just come out. They're like, damn, let's make a song. Or what was the song?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I forget.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I think it may be a 50.

[Charlie Scene]

Cent, something like that. But they're like, hey, let's make a hip hop song and wear masks and put it on MySpace. And J Dog sent it to. To me before he released it because he's like. He knew I'd freestyle. Like, back in the day, I'd love freestyle battling and freestyle rapping and, like, I was obsessed with that.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That's a dying art.

[Charlie Scene]

It really is. Yeah. And now when people freestyle, it's written as like, I used to bring a boombox to high school and. And freestyle with all the bloods and, like, bad.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I loved it.

[Charlie Scene]

So when J Dog started doing hip hop, he sent it to me. He's like, hey, I want you to write a verse for this. And when I first heard the song, I was, like, literally blown away. It was called the Kids.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

This is the best fudgeing thing I've ever heard.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yep.

[Charlie Scene]

So then I wrote a verse to song number two called Scene for Dummies, and that was the first written verse I'd ever done in my entire life because I would only freestyle back then.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And then.

[Charlie Scene]

George, what song did you start with?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Number five. Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Or Black Dahlia.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

No, Black Dahlia was my fave.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Love.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I forget. Okay. I forget.

[Charlie Scene]

I think it was number five.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. I'm not really number five.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Because we were, like, spurting him out then. Oh, yeah. Because you had Jeffree star on it. We did our third song. Had Jeffree star on it.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Jeffrey's one of my best friends.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. He's cool as hell.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He was like. He was like a Hollywood local back then. And we had him do Turn Off Lights. He did a song with us. Us way back.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That was like the third song we put out.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. And that was a trip. When you had him, I was like, holy. Because I haven't seen him or heard about him in so long. I know he was doing his thing.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

He's hilarious. He just walks in a room and you start cackling.

[Charlie Scene]

Because he's so funny.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So funny.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, he's hilarious. He's all. He was always one of the, like, the sharpest dudes. And he would.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Wait. Even back then, like, we were like, nut jobs. He was like. He stuck out then.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Like, this guy's crazy.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

No, he's always been authentic. And that's what I've loved about him is.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Oh, no, he's great.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Doesn't change who he is.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Our car broke down or drinking. Jerrell's car broke down. And he's like. Dr's like, I wonder what it is. And then Jeffree Star is like, well, if it's any. If you need tranny fluid, I got a little for you.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, exactly how he is. We. He literally tried to make out with. He tried to make out with Jaime, my videographer.

[Charlie Scene]

Do it.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It was so. Yeah, it was very close. If we weren't filming, it would have happened. All right. And he's got a beautiful girlfriend. Like, I mean, just gorgeous. But, yeah, no, Jeffrey is. Is still the same way.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. He was on the third song we ever put up. Yeah, it was really funny.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Take it up and listen.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, we were like. So now, you know, like, SoundCloud and all this stuff. I guess it was kind of like the original SoundCloud thing. We just started. We. It was like, very rapid, too. It was like a song a week. We just started. Once one came out, it was just like. Just kept pushing it and going because people were listening to it and it kind of had a vibe. And then I remember, you know, MySpace had, like, an inbox and, like, there was a message there from. What was it like Electra Records or one of them?

[Charlie Scene]

It was Tom. Tom messaged us.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Direct Message. But then a label did.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, Capital did Capital. Yeah. Rick Ross. The Strokes posted for us, like, one of my favorite bands back then.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Like, we thought it was, like, a prank at first.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. We were just getting used to the Internet back then.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

My space came around. So you never knew what was real or what wasn't.

[Charlie Scene]

It was happening so fast, too. Within three months, all these people messaging us and labels hitting us up and shit. It was, like, overwhelming and it didn't feel real.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. And then I remember, like, we. So we. We ended up signing with Interscope, but. I'm sorry.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Thank you. I do it all the time, too. She's always over there.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Like, we actually went To a meeting. That was when it was like, dude, this is real. Like, we met with Jimmy Iovine.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Wow.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I know.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Which is. Who we ended up signing with was Interscope. But that was when it was insane. We're, like, sitting in his office and he had, like, John Lennon's piano from Imagine and, like, frame Tupac lyrics. And it was just, like, the most insane thing in the world. Posting stuff on the Internet.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Where are you guys at in your life? Right there. So you're sitting. You're. You signed with Interscope. You're sitting in this office.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I'll tell you something funny. We were so broke, we would ask for CDs in their office to go sell at Amoeba, like, because we. We didn't have any money. So we asked, hey, can we have, like, a box we love, like, Led Zeppelin is when we're Atlantic. And they'd give us, like, a box set of Led Zeppelin. We'd go to Amoeba to sell it for, like, secondhand, for, like, 20 or 30 bucks because we didn't have any money. And then they. Atlantic was like. I remember this. They were involved in, like, Hypnotic. Which was like, this drink.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yes, I used to drink. It gets you fucked up.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

We'd ask for, like, a case of it, and we would just get drunk off for a few days and then go back to another meeting to get another case. And, like, we were like. So it was funny. We're going all these meetings, but we had no money. Our manager had, like, this hoopty ride that we'd all, like, pile in into.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

How did you find the manager? Where did he come from? Just out of the blue, or was he a friend?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That was our biggest mistake.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Biggest mistake. He managed my band. I was in before Hollywood Undead. So he kind of came in, but they managed Papa Roach at the time. So it's like, hey, they seem legit. Let's have them manage us.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So he was just the only manager we knew, right?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And willing to, like, see the vision.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He didn't know what the. He was doing. He's a nice guy. We just hired him because he was British. We thought he sounded smart.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Something about that accent, though, it does convince people.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Might. But, yeah, it was just a wild time because it was like, yeah, from nothing. And then, yeah, we got a bunch of money, or at least, like, in our mind, what was a ton of money at the time, Right. And then, yeah, the rest was what, history.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

What's the story with Good Charlotte? Because they took interest in you guys, too?

[Charlie Scene]

Or Great Charlotte, right? Yeah. They took interest. How did. How did we even meet up with them? They messaged us or something?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No. So we.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that everybody's DMing you guys.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

This is hilarious.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Well, we used to go out in Hollywood all the time, right? But we were, like, Dirt Squirrel dudes. We were street kids, right? So we would go to this place called Powerhouse and, like, this place called Tinies. These real, like, street bars, Gangster kind of cholo bars. And there was all these clubs. We would never go to those clubs. They wouldn't, like, let us in there. But then we. The band started hyping up. We were allowed, like, we could start getting into these clubs. And good Charlotte DJed at this place called LAX, right? And so we started going there, and they knew who we were, and we knew this guy named Tony Lovato, who was in this band called Mess. And he knew them. He had lived with Benji. And so we, like, got connected to them. And those guys are, like, the coolest dudes in the world. Yeah, one of the coolest things, because they were big famous dudes, and they, you know, they were balling and stuff. We were, like, still like. Like, just street rats. And they're like, hey, they had these, like, mansions and stuff. And they'd be like, come to our house and we'd roll up there, and they'd let us, like, we go swimming and stuff. And they were just super, super cool, super supportive.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Like big brothers.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, 100. Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. And they just. Just wanted to help it. They never asked for anything from us and stuff. They just thought we were gonna do well, and they would give us advice and, hey, man, make sure you do this.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Which in this industry, that means a lot because they were just looking out for us, right?

[Charlie Scene]

Literally just taking us under their wing, like big brothers.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Really?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, it's really cool, dad.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Like, they invited us to Vegas once when he was, like, with Hillary Duff. Joel.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

They had, like, this crazy suite, like, all slept on the floor in it. Like, I don't even know why they let us hang out there.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

How do you let Hillary Duff go? That's just what I want to know.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I don't know, dude. They were.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Hillary Duff is hot.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I know. He was big pimping back then.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, he was.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

But, yeah, he would just. They, like. They would just, like, let us hang out with them for some reason. But they were just the coolest dudes.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Super cool dudes.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

But you guys ended up. They helped you, but then you got fired by them. Or is that no, no.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So this is when we first started, and then we. We. We, you know, hung out with them, and then we went on our separate ways and blah, blah, blah. We ended up hiring as managers.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Okay.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Like, a decade later.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Wow.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

They're great managers.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And we hired him. We did a record with them. The reason we're not. We weren't there. They work more in, like, the pop world.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

They do, like, Chase Atlantic, and they have some great bands, but we're, you know, we're a rock band, really. So it just wasn't, like, the best fit. They're great managers, great dudes, and they look out for their artists. It just. We love the dudes. It just was not. We were in two different kinds of ecosystems.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

But they're great dudes.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Do you guys consider yourself rock or do you guys consider yourself.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, I. I really, like, don't in a lot of ways. But that's just the world that we've come, like, with the festivals we do and stuff. We've always been like, we'll play with, like, Slipknot and, like, wage War in these bands. We're like, why are we on these? That's the world. We've been accepted for some reason, even.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Though you guys have been. I think it's because it's like you guys have that alpha. Angry, probably. That's literally how rock is.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

We kind of just ended up in that world that was never, like, the world we pushed or anything like that. We would, like. I. We thought we were going to be a hip hop band.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Shockingly. My husband was on all those rock festivals. Festivals, too.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Exactly. How does this.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

We're like the tray over here. Like, what are we doing in this rock festival?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

They. They in tech 9's always on them.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, yeah. I watched. That was great.

[Charlie Scene]

I think you're right. It's just the energy of the band. Yeah, that fits.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And hip hop is so popular that obviously they always have had, like, some hip hop type bands that I guess it makes sense. But, yeah, we were just embraced by that world more so. And, like, rock radio played us. And, you know, obviously Power 106 wasn't gonna play us, so it was like, all right, fine. So it's just kind of where we ended up.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And you guys have been touring with Ronnie Falling in Reverse.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, A lot.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. How's that going for you guys?

[Charlie Scene]

Awesome. Yeah, it's great. We're about to go back out with them, too, for all of September.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that. Yeah, he's a special, special man, oh.

[Charlie Scene]

Man, I become a major fan. I told him, like, I might sign up for the meet and greet, literally.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

He could. If Ronnie wanted to, he could be a opera singer.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Seriously, he's great. Super talented.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

She's got that crazy vocal range. Yeah, yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And he's just funny as hell.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So take me on this journey with you guys. After you guys developed this band and the seven of you, there was a little bit of drama. We don't have to really go too deep into it, but I just want to touch base on it, because your Reddit thread, for some reason, they have so many questions because they feel like they don't really know the whole story with you guys and, like, why Deuce left and all that stuff. So. Can we talk?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

We never. We never talk. It's funny because. Really told anyone, right? Like, people always. Part of that was because they would talk. Like, we didn't want to give it any air. You know what I mean?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

But really, it was just, you know, differences of opinion, and it was like, which direction the band was going. And, you know, people just. People act like it was just kind of like, you know, first and foremost, like, me and I grew up with that dude. We were, like, best friends from when we were little kids. It was not, like, easy, but people change. And it was like, one of those things. It sucked. No one wanted that to happen, but none of us made that decision.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Charlie Scene]

He got.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

He. So he left on his own.

[Charlie Scene]

Something snapped with him. Something changed to where he all of a sudden got very controlling and very crazy and very weird. And it was. It was hard to be around. But we dealt with it, you know? And it got to a point where he left the band. Like, he's the one who left. We were at the airport. He didn't show up. So we're like, oh, all. So I had to sing and do all my rap parts. It was a lot of. To do. So that was hard, but it was not our idea to do that. That was.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

None of us fought it because at that point, we were all so Almost relieved.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Because it was just like. But, dude, it wasn't like the way we wanted it, and it wasn't like the way we planned it. But, you know, it's funny, you see this stuff and you hear about this stuff happening, and when it happens in your world, you're like, what the is going on with this guy? But that's. That's really what happened. And it was kind of like one of those things. So I don't know how to Explain it partially because I've never talked to him since, but we were best friends from when we were little kids prior to that. And everything shifted. So there's no maybe was just too.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Young to handle that much.

[Charlie Scene]

I think so at once. Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Because that's a lot. Like when you guys post on MySpace and then you guys are signing record deals and then money's coming into play and there's seven of you, it's like.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, maybe some people just aren't made for that or whatever. But, you know, to turn your friends into enemies is not the. The smartest thing to do. And that's really what happened. So it was just like, well, you then. And we just decided to move on. So it was never like, f this dude. It was just like, whatever to us.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Even though he didn't he make a diss album about you guys. Or was it.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, that was the whole thing. So there was this. He's. He's saying this, that, and the other thing. And then, you know, it was either like, do we respond? Our response was, let's just not do anything because it's just going to give him air.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And then obviously there was a time where Jay and Dylan were down in Hollywood and they beat him up with it. He was with a bunch of people down there.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That was my next question. So there was really a fight.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, I wouldn't even bring that up. But tmz, like, right, covered it. So it's already public knowledge. They found him down there and he had said enough stuff to that point, but we were never gonna like, post.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that you guys are about it, though.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Oh, yeah. We weren't gonna say anything, but when we saw him, it was on. You know what I mean? And then. So they did that and then he sued us. And it was like. So we get a lot like you talk all this shit and then you get your ass kicked. It was. There was like three of them and like, wait, dude. It was very lopsided competition.

[Charlie Scene]

And they all ran.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, and they all ran. They all lost. The ones who stayed got their asses kicked. And then you sue as a response and act like you got jumped. It's like, dude, there was 10 of you guys and there was three of them. And then you sue. And so there was this big lawsuit and all this stuff and a bunch of made up stuff. He said I wasn't even there. And he said I was there with an AK. I wasn't even there. I was 20 miles away. And he put. So I wasn't there. I wish I was there, but don't.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You love when your reputation precedes you?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. Yeah. So I wasn't even there and I have to hire a lawyer to defend myself to prove I wasn't there. I was at home.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And trust me, I wish I was there, but I wasn't there.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So that he. All this stuff. So who. Who starts a fight, loses and then sues those people?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So all this stuff happened. So we never fed the fire anything else. We handled what we had to handle. When it came down to it. We ended up winning the loss or settling the lawsuit because we had enough ammo to say, hey, look, this guy was making enough threats that when we saw him, we could prove that it was defense when we fought or whatever. So that all went away. The other stuff was just bullshit drama with the other dudes, just not getting along, you know, normal stuff. Yeah, that was the only real fire fiery stuff. And, you know, the other stuff was just normal, hey, we don't get along anymore type stuff.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

But I love that you guys, even through all of this, have managed to still stay together and still. Because a lot. Like this would have broke up a band. Like normally this would have, like, you guys would have probably done your own adventures on side quests and just let the Hollywood undead name kind of rest. But you guys literally just kept. Kept trucking. And I think that's awesome.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. I mean, we want to end it at least on our terms.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know what I mean? You know, when, at the end of the day, we'll do it our way. And now it, like, now that that stuff is behind us, I think we enjoy ourselves now more than ever and we've kind of settled into what we want to do and, you know, the bygones are bygones. And I, to be honest with you, I don't even have any hard feelings towards any of these people now. I don't even care.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So that's good. That's growth, though.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That's, you know, I still want to stomp somebody out.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So there's J Dog, Funnyman, Johnny Three Tears, Charlie Scene and Danny in the group now.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Can you guys describe each other in three brutally honest words? Each one of you guys?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Three words per person or just you two?

[Charlie Scene]

Piece of shit.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You've been saying that since you guys were kids. What was that you say he called you piece of. So what would you say?

[Charlie Scene]

No, I. I did. I was just counting how many words it was.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, about me?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He just likes to count. It's one of his things like Dustin Hoffman and Rain Man.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Counts words. I just say. Totally great guy. You know, even with the piece of thing, I just. I'm not going to sing that little. I'm not going to do what Deuce did.

[Charlie Scene]

What a good guy. That's four. What a good.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love it. I love it. So how do you guys balance individual egos and visions within the band?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Now you get married and get your ego crushed.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So are all of you guys married now or. Pretty much settled down.

[Charlie Scene]

Everyone except for funny man got divorced.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. Be married and divorced.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, that's all right. You live and you learn. Sometimes that's how it goes. But you guys are holding on strong in your marriages. You've been married for 12 years.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Cheaper to keep her, as they say, right?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, that's what I tell my husband, too.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know, my wife. Wife loves this show, so. Yeah, yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

What's her name?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Asia. And she told me to say hi.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Hi, Asia. See, I bet you she's hot, too. I want to see you guys as wives. I don't think I've ever seen you guys as wives. I've seen J Dog's wife and I love J Dog. And shout out to J Dog because people give me about my cows on online and he'll be in the comments sticking up for me.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He loves.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So sweet.

[Charlie Scene]

That's cool.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, he's.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He's an animal lover.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, I love that.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He's got like 90 cats. Cats.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, damn.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, he like. He's always got some animal.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Crazy cat man. That's an animal lover. That's a crazy cat man.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a cat. He's always. I remember I. When we used to work in North Hollywood together, he had. We had like this kind of like trap house type thing.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And it was right. There was like a bum village right by it.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And we're always going in there to like rescue the cats that live there. Or he would go in there and the bums didn't want to give up the cats, so we'd have to like bribe them to get the cats.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, my God.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Because otherwise they would just. Just run around out of control having more kittens and they die and stuff. So, you know, negotiating with these bums, like to get to give us the cats. We're always on these crazy cat adventures.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that, though.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So you guys do contribute, like calming down to being married, having babies. Do you have babies?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, I have two boys.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, I love that. How old are they?

[Charlie Scene]

Five and Six.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Five and six. And how old are your babies?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Three girls. One's three. One's five and one is six. Sixteen.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Karma came for you, tough.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. You want to hear something cool? Me and him had a kid on the exact same day. He has got a boy and I have a girl born in this at the same day at the same hospital right down the hall from each other.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, it was like a Disney movie.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I feel like you guys were either brothers in another life or something.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You guys definitely just call me a piece of. We're gonna be.

[Charlie Scene]

We're gonna be related too, because my son's gonna be hitting that.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Not just one, there's gonna be his first threesome with the two youngest.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, for the Eiffel to tower.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Love that.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I'm going to be proud.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

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[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I honestly, it's funny, I look at like I used to think of it. It's. Music's not like linear like that, you know, So I don't. There's something that's great, like when I listen to like early Beastie Boys stuff, you could say, like, oh, they grew because their music became more like, complex or because the subject matter was. But I love their early stuff just as much. It's more just like where someone is, is at. You know what I mean? So it's like our early stuff, we were just really young and like, one of the things I love about it is like all the anger was so sincere and that's the, you know, in like the party stuff, we really were still doing all that Stuff.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So I don't look at it as just two different time periods.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And I really cherished, when I listen to that stuff, I used to get kind of like, ah, I would have done something differently. I really did get caught up in that. And now I don't know. And now I listen to it and I really do, like, look at it and kind of, like, encapsulated as something special. Whereas before, I used to be like, we should have done this different or that different, or we could have made this better. As opposed. Now I just kind of go, you know what that was. It was cool for what it was.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

You know, period in our life.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Well, it's like, I think we try for the most part, or we do. Right. From honesty. And, like, we're not, like, saying we're doing something that we're not. So it's like, do I show my dick and go to the club and do Jaeger bombs? No, I don't do that anymore.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

No Dick on the chopping block, which I still want to see. Maybe we're gonna catch you guys out on tour and you can show Jay and I that.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Charlie Scene]

We'll do that. The meet and greet. Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

M E A T. Yeah, I like that.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. So we're just writing from real places now, and. And we still write party songs too, but it. But they're just different now, you know?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You have to evolve.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, you have.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

My husband says that all the time because, you know, people want real rapper roll back. And he's like, what, I'm 40 years old. What am I supposed to sing about? Rap about drugs and.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And the truth is, if you're not. You're like, you're. You're trying not to then. Because if you know what I mean? It's like if we wrote Undead again because a lot we've heard.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love Undead. I will. I will beat somebody up. Listening to Undead.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Every label we ever. Every man. Hey, why don't you guys ever try and write another Undead? It's like, that doesn't ha. It doesn't exist because it was organic. We were mad, and it was like a period in time.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And if we wrote another Undead, people like, oh, this isn't as good as the Undead.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You can't. So it's like the whole concept of redoing, like, or remaking something you've already done is impossible because we're. You're like a completely different person. It was 20 years ago.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Charlie Scene]

You just got to find the next Thing that's as good. But just honestly, it's always going to be different, though. Yeah, exactly.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You know, and, you know, it's like your. Your concerns and where you're at emotionally and spiritually and stuff is much different 20 years later.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That doesn't mean your music can't be just as good. It's just going to be about something else.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah, absolutely. Can you tell me the story about when you hung out with my husband and ended up having to sleep in your car?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. The truth, too, right?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. That was a good night. Can I tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth? So help me God, I'll tell you my version of the truth.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Listen, we can cut out whatever you need to, but I would like to hear.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I don't care. There.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Okay.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So we went there, and I actually drove there because I was like, I'm not gonna drink or anything. So normally, like, if I was gonna, you know, I would Uber or something.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So I drove there, and we're sitting around with Baelish and jelly and some other dudes and him and stuff. And then they started. We had some, like, tequila and stuff. And then there was, like, some drugs. You know, cocaine came out. So, like, oh, boy, this is gonna turn into something different. I was like, oh, I drove, you know, So I was trying to kind of be like, I drove. I can't really. He's like, oh, don't worry about it. My security card will drive your car home. And I was like, well, then how's he gonna get back? He's like, my other security guard will drive him back. I was like, I. So I kind of ran out of excuses. So I was like, okay. And so we drank, and then we, like, we had, like. He spelled out a giant G and a giant J and cocaine, like, spelled out the lettering, but he. He didn't touch it. So I did the whole G.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

He's like, I took it upon myself.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He was like, no, thank you.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And we recorded the song. And I remember, too, it took me because I was so yacked out, it took me.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I was gonna say, I thought you turned into, like, the. Not the fun guy when you did blow.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. It wasn't no Jelly roll even said. He's like, man, you said when you did coke, you changed, and when you do coke, you change. Yeah, because I get really, like, wired up, and it makes me want to rock.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

If I'm not absolutely, completely sh. Face. Yeah. And I do a line of cocaine, I will rock back and forth like I'm in A straight jacket. Like, I don't.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That's the problem. So you're in a studio trying to record, and you're boxed in and you're trying to, like, focus. That is the worst thing for me to try and do if I'm doing blow.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So anyway, the end of the night comes around, and the dude, this big ass security guard, is, like, driving me home. I don't even know.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Probably Maui.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

He's super cool.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

But, you know, he was just like. You know, he's like. He's like, shut the up, white boy. So he drives me. None of the guys follows. And then we get there, and I'm knocking on the door, and no one will let me in. I'm pretty sure my wife.

[Charlie Scene]

It was like seven in the morning.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Or six in the morning. No, the sun was coming up, so.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It'S like, oh, I hate that feeling.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I was like, dude, I'll just go in my car. It's fine. He's like, no. Jelly told me not to leave until I see you go in the house. I was like, dude, leave. And he's like, I can't do that. And I was like, dude, you're gonna get me. Like, this is gonna be way worse if my wife wakes up and I'm here with some. Some giant security guard. It was gonna make me. He's like, I'm sorry. He's my boss. I can't go. And I was like, oh, my God, what am I gonna do? And, like, people are waking up and walking their dogs. This guy's, like, 7ft tall. And I'm standing up from my house, poked out of my brain. And so I was like, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? So I was like, okay, well, let me try the garage. And I open it, and there's, like, a fridge that blocks the garage door. And I acted like I was opening the door. And he was, like, standing out there like this. And so I was like, oh, it's open. And he's like. Like this. And I saw. I went like this behind the. Finally, like, all right. And I just hid lara like that until he drove away. He went and hid my car for the rest of the night.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, my God. That is brutal. You had to sleep in the car? Did you sleep at all? What happened when you got in the car? That's what I'm curious about.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, I. I laid there, and then. I don't know. I probably would listen like some Billy Joel and just.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I used to drink mouthwash to go to sleep on like, oh, I've done that. Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. When I didn't have any alcohol.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I was probably just laying there, scared of my wife.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. So was wifey pissed?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, she was cool about it. I don't know if she knows what happened. So now probably.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. I'm gonna have to ask my husband if I can release the whole story. I love that.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, it's okay with me because now. You know, it's funny because I haven't drank or done drugs in two years and that she asked me if I could do it for a year, and I said yes, I did a year. And then I was allowed to drink or do whatever I wanted, and I just did another year. Cause I was like, like, why not keep going?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

So two years behind. I'm telling you, when I got sober, I got sober in 2017 off pills and cocaine. 2018, off alcohol. Sobriety sucks. It's the worst journey that you'll ever go on. But it is the most rewarding and most fulfilling. The more years you get under your belt, you don't even. I used to wake up and crave chewing a Xanax and, like, drinking vodka, and now I couldn't. I can't even take cough syrup. You know? Like, it's crazy how we change as we get older. And when you really just. Just have a goal that you want.

[Charlie Scene]

To reach as far as, yeah, good for you, that's.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, yeah, really good for you, it's tough. And life is much more fulfilling without that stuff, at least. You know, the way I look at it, too, is, like, stuff's hard, but at least you have, like, a chance to fix things. And, yes, you're at least up to bat. If you keep. If I kept drinking or you keep doing that stuff, you're never even gonna get up to the plate. You're just gonna keep knocking yourself back down before you even have a shot, so.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And having to start over.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You know?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

It's like, is it worth it to have to knock all those days down that you just accumulated under your belt for a drink or for a night of feeling like. And hangovers are not the same. Are you guys in your 40s?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Okay. Hangovers are not the same.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No.

[Charlie Scene]

They're two days minimum.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Oh, I get three. Yeah. And then my mental health afterwards is just.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

It's, like, depressing.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

The worst.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Anxiety, you get.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Depression, People talk to you like, yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

No, I won't leave my house. Like, Thai food all for all three days. I know my house.

[Charlie Scene]

Thai food at the same Redo the same. Same cuisine when we're hungover.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Really?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I'll drink coconut soup all day long if I can eat curry like it destroys you.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And imagine those wasted days. Three days where you could have been doing all this stuff.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yes.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

You're just watching X Files, which is what I do.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

And it's like I just waste my life.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

All these. All that time. And then, you know, I have three kids with my. When I. Oh, damn tired. I can't go to the park because I'm. You know, I'm lying. And it's like this.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

They don't take no kid. And these kids these days do not take no for an answer.

[Charlie Scene]

Hell no.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No. I know. Yeah. You're missing all these good memories and stuff.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Well, I'm proud of you for the two years.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Thank you.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I'm very proud of you. So, moving on, what do. What do we have to look forward from you guys this year? 2025 and next year? 2026.

[Charlie Scene]

We got that tour with Falling In Reverse in September, and then we're working with the producer, Tyler Smith, who we're super excited to work with. He. He did the song Savior that just came out, and he's just the most talented producer I've ever worked with personally. And the crazy thing about him.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, he lives in the hood, though.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. He lives in the hood.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

That's the one in east la.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. Yeah. He produced I Prevail and Falling in Reverse when both those bands used to open for us, and he produced them and they're the biggest rock bands out there now, so we're hoping he can do that for us.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. I think you guys are like. You guys have had nine lives. Like. Yeah. For this band to make it through all you guys have. And 20 years, you guys are still making new albums, recreating yourself. I mean, you guys are going to be here for a while. You guys aren't going anywhere.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah. Yeah. You never know, right?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

That's what keeps us going.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

What do you think the sound is going to be like on this next album? What are you guys hoping it'll be?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I mean. Well, say the song. We just. We had two songs come out so far, and both of them are, like, completely dis identical from each other.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I. What I always. What I always like to. I just want to make sure that what we're doing is nothing like what we've done before. That's always what I go for and.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I think what we go for and.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Keeping it original. When I Listen to. You know, when I listen to the radio, I always listen to it to make sure we don't sound like anything on it.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Would you guys ever do country?

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, he loves.

[Charlie Scene]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I like writing produce country since I moved out here in Nashville. Yeah. Shout out locate. I told him I drop his name on here.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I love that show.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

My dick. Since we're here.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I always send him pictures.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Asian. Come on down, baby. So would you guys do, like, a country song? Because I know when you guys, you know, collabed with my husband and I think that that song was. Was great. It wasn't country, but it was great.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Right?

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

You guys should collab again and do, like, something.

[Charlie Scene]

Hey, that would be amazing. That would be awesome. No, I've always. I think, like, in Hollywood undead, we do have the luxury of doing any genre. And I've talked about country enough to where fans are almost expecting us to do a country song that also is Hollywood undead.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

We could essentially do anything we want.

[Charlie Scene]

Exactly.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Like, whatever. Okay.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I could see you guys doing a dosi doe thing on stage. Yeah, yeah. No, that would be lit. You guys, thank you so much for coming by.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Our pleasure.

[Charlie Scene]

Thank you for having me.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

I'm glad we finally made this happen.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, totally.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Long time coming. Tell everybody where they can find you guys on your social medias if they aren't already following you.

[Charlie Scene]

Just any social media slash Hollywood undead.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

There you go.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, I don't know anything about that.

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Do you guys have personal profiles?

[Charlie Scene]

Yeah. The real Charlie singer scene. Easy.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

No, piece of.

[Charlie Scene]

The real Charlie scene. T h e. No, not Sheen. And then what's yours? Johnny Three tears, I'm guessing.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah, probably Johnny Three tier something or piece of slash. Piece of.

[Charlie Scene]

No, I take that back, handsome devil.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

And catch you guys on tour with Falling in Reverse this summer.

[Charlie Scene]

September. Yep.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Slaughter to prevail.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Where are you guys going? Is this out of the country or is this here?

[Charlie Scene]

U S. Canada.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

Okay, awesome. Yay. We'll go get your tickets, guys. And if we're on the road when you guys are on the road, I want to come see a show.

[Charlie Scene]

Heck yeah. Please do.

[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

All right, cool. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. See you guys next week. Bye. Shopify helps you sell at every stage of your business. Like that. Let's put it online and see what happens.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

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[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

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[Commercial Announcer 2]

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[Host (Dumb Blonde Podcast Host)]

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