Jessie Murph: Big Hair, Bigger Feelings

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde Episode featuring Jessie Murph – "Big Hair, Bigger Feelings"

Introduction to the Episode In the May 26, 2025 episode of the Dumb Blonde podcast, host Bunny XO welcomes rising star Jessie Murph to discuss her journey in the music industry, personal growth, mental health, and creative processes. The conversation delves deep into Jessie’s experiences, offering listeners an intimate look into her life and artistry.

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1. Jessie Murph's Viral Moment with Wilbur at the ACMs The episode kicks off with Bunny reminiscing about Jessie’s memorable appearance at the American Country Music Awards (ACMs) with her miniature pig, Wilbur, who quickly became a viral sensation.

• Bunny: "Tell me the story about Wilbur, because he went completely viral, dude." [03:31]
• Jessie shares how she brought Wilbur as her date to the ACMs without formal permission, highlighting her spontaneous and fearless nature.

2. Jessie’s Approach to Releasing Music The discussion transitions to Jessie’s unique strategy for releasing her songs. Jessie prefers to release tracks when she genuinely feels them, even if it means teasing a song for an extended period.

• Jessie: "I always want to put it out immediately." [06:32]
• She explains that this authenticity resonates with her audience, who eagerly anticipate her releases. Jessie admits that sometimes she may hold back songs if she no longer connects with them, emphasizing her commitment to genuine expression.

3. Navigating Online Fame and Dealing with Bullying Jessie opens up about the challenges of online fame, including dealing with bullying and negative comments. She distinguishes between general negativity and personal attacks, particularly those coming from women, which she finds more hurtful.

• Jessie: "It bothers me the most when it's women. It really does." [16:45]
• The conversation highlights the emotional toll of public scrutiny and Jessie’s efforts to maintain her mental well-being despite the pressures.

4. Jessie’s Coachella Performance: Experiences and Challenges A significant portion of the episode centers around Jessie’s electrifying Coachella performance. She discusses the logistics, nervousness, and preparation involved in incorporating choreography and cheer stunts into her act.

• Jessie: "It was definitely really nerve-wracking. I have so much gratitude and awe for mothers everywhere because I think it's the hardest job in the world that no one talks about enough." [12:42]

5. Use of Psychedelics and Mental Health Practices Jessie shares her positive experiences with mushrooms during her Coachella weekend, contrasting it with Bunny’s less favorable microdosing attempts. They explore the potential benefits and challenges of using psychedelics for mental health.

• Jessie: "It made me really happy." [19:46]
• Bunny adds her perspective on controlling anxiety through practices like box breathing, underscoring the importance of finding what works individually for mental health support.

6. Emotional Themes in Jessie’s Music and Personal Healing The conversation delves into the heartfelt themes present in Jessie’s songs, particularly those addressing her relationship with her mother and the complexities surrounding her father’s absence.

• Jessie: "I watched my mom go through things when I was a kid that she shouldn't have gone through. I have so much respect for her and I'm her biggest fan." [32:21]
• She emphasizes the therapeutic role of songwriting in processing her emotions and healing from past traumas.

7. Jessie’s Musical Journey: Learning Instruments and Self-Expression Jessie discusses her self-taught approach to learning piano and guitar, highlighting her determination to support her singing career through musical proficiency.

• Jessie: "I would spend hours on YouTube just copying the piano tutorials." [36:04]
• Her dedication to self-improvement and musical versatility is evident, showcasing her multifaceted talent.

8. Beliefs in Witches and Past Lives Exploring her spiritual side, Jessie touches on her beliefs in witches and past lives, revealing her interest in metaphysical subjects and how they influence her creativity.

• Jessie: "I think I could believe in past lives." [30:10]
• Bunny encourages Jessie to explore these beliefs further using tools like ChatGPT for personal insights.

9. Addressing Mental Health and Offering Support to Listeners Both hosts emphasize the importance of mental health, sharing personal anecdotes and practical advice for listeners struggling with dark times.

• Jessie: "Gratitude has helped me so much." [40:05]
• They discuss accessible mental health resources, such as therapy, meditation, journaling, and manifesting techniques, aiming to provide solace and actionable steps for those in need.

10. Insights into Upcoming Album and Creative Direction Jessie reveals exciting details about her upcoming album, slated for release on July 27, 2025. She describes it as a fusion of 60s-inspired Elvis Presley vibes with 2010s trap elements, promising a diverse and emotionally resonant collection of songs.

• Jessie: "It's a little... it's a kind of all over the place, but just because it's... it follows a sequence of my emotions as I was writing the album." [45:34]
• The album is expected to explore themes of generational trauma, personal growth, and newfound happiness, marking a significant evolution in her musical narrative.

11. Jessie’s Personal Life and Future Plans Towards the end of the episode, Jessie touches on her private approach to her dating life and expresses her gratitude for present relationships and future aspirations, including the possibility of returning to her Southern roots while continuing her career endeavors.

12. Reflection and Advice In a poignant moment, Jessie reflects on her journey from a younger self writing pain into poetry to her current state of happiness and fulfillment.

• Jessie: "I’ve come so far just as a human and I'm really happy with where my heart and soul and brain is at right now." [47:21]
• This segment serves as an uplifting message to listeners, encouraging resilience and self-love.

13. Jessie’s Iconic Style and Influences The episode concludes with a lighthearted discussion about Jessie’s distinctive big hair, inspired by iconic women like Priscilla Presley and Amy Winehouse. Their playful banter underscores the role of personal style in empowering self-expression.

• Jessie: "Something about the hair makes me feel powerful." [48:31]
• Jessie hopes to revive the trend of big hair, symbolizing strength and individuality.

Closing Thoughts Bunny XO wraps up the episode by expressing her admiration for Jessie Murph’s authenticity and resilience. Listeners are encouraged to follow Jessie on various social platforms to stay updated on her musical journey.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jessie Murph: "I never want to change my frequency to attract people that I would never even want to associate with." [26:36]

• Bunny XO: "Don't let people tell you who to be. You attract your tribe by staying true to yourself." [26:40]

• Jessie Murph: "Gratitude changed everything for me." [40:12]

• Bunny XO: "Box breathing resets your nervous system. It's a game changer." [43:07]

This episode of Dumb Blonde offers a comprehensive and heartfelt exploration of Jessie Murph’s personal and professional life, emphasizing themes of authenticity, mental health, and creative integrity. Through candid conversations and shared experiences, Bunny XO and Jessie Murph provide listeners with inspiration and relatable insights into navigating life’s challenges.

Transcript

[Bunny]

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[Jessie Murph]

What?

[Bunny]

We have the Bunny XO show. We have meet the DFORs. We have propaganda. We have more shows that we're adding. And not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Head over to www.patreon.com backslash dumb blond podcast and sign up Bunny XO. Bunny XO. Is this thing on? What's up, babies? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today's guest isn't just a rising star. She's a walking, fire breathing, lyrical assassin. She sings what most people are afraid to say out loud, and she does it with zero apologies. Ms. Jessie Murph.

[Jessie Murph]

Hello.

[Bunny]

Hi, baby. It's been a long time coming. I have been wanting you on the podcast forever.

[Jessie Murph]

Dude. I'm so glad I'm here. I feel like we've never gotten to, like, actually talk. We're always in very loud environments.

[Bunny]

Yes.

[Jessie Murph]

And it's like a quick passing thing. So I'm excited. Yeah.

[Bunny]

I'm excited to get to hang with you for a little bit. Last time I saw you, we were on the red carpet at the ACMs and you had Wilbur with you.

[Jessie Murph]

My God.

[Bunny]

Tell me the story about Wilbur, because he went completely viral, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

He was a star of the carpet.

[Bunny]

It was wild, right? I know that. I literally ran up and I was like, oh, my God. Then I'm like, you don't want to pay? Like, that's the first thing. I'm like, I got three at home. They fudgeing, uproot, everything, dude. Like, tell me the story about Wilbur.

[Jessie Murph]

Wait, are your pigs here?

[Bunny]

No, this is just my studio.

[Jessie Murph]

That makes sense. I was like, damn, y' all got a pink staircase.

[Bunny]

Yeah, no, this is just my girl cave.

[Jessie Murph]

Wilbur. I've always wanted a miniature pig, like, my whole life. I feel like I told you that on the carpet, but. And friends of ours have them. And then so I asked him to be my date, and he came with me, and he was great. I don't know.

[Bunny]

How did you get the ACM to approve that? Because I would think that bringing livestock on the carpet, they would be like.

[Jessie Murph]

No, dude, I don't think we asked. I think we just kind of.

[Bunny]

I love that. What were they going to say, like, instead of permission? I love that, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

That's my biggest motto.

[Bunny]

Yeah. That's how you have to be through life.

[Jessie Murph]

100%.

[Bunny]

So did you end up keeping Wilbur?

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, well, I'm going to visit him when I go to Texas.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Like, my place Won't let me have a 300 pound pig.

[Bunny]

Is he going to end up being 300 pounds?

[Jessie Murph]

That's what they say.

[Bunny]

I actually have owned two pigs. I owned two pigs before. The three that we have right now. The three that we have right now are actually mini pigs. And they're probably like. What? They're cooney coonies. So they're so they're like £100. They're like little beefcakes and I call them my golden girls. They're so cute. But I did have two. One that was named Lunch and one. I forget what. Chop suey. I know the other one. His name was Chop Suey and I'm telling you they were supposed to be mini pigs and they ended up being 5, 600 pounds.

[Jessie Murph]

600 pounds? Yeah, that's a hippo.

[Bunny]

Yeah. And they have like brains of like a 2 year old. So like if you sleep in in the morning like they'll start going through your cabinets and banging pots and pans and stuff like that.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, they're like actually smart.

[Bunny]

Oh no, they have, they have the brain of like a toddler.

[Jessie Murph]

That's insane.

[Bunny]

Yeah, they're actually. And they're supposed to be like the cleanest animals. Which I beg to fucking differ because my pigs are not. Those things are fudgeing. Just they're dirty.

[Jessie Murph]

They also eat anything, right?

[Bunny]

They do.

[Jessie Murph]

You can feed it like bones. Yeah, actually.

[Bunny]

So the mafia used to feed.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh that's terrible.

[Bunny]

The mafia used to feed pigs human bodies because they eat through bones.

[Jessie Murph]

That's so crazy.

[Bunny]

They still didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, I thought everybody knew that. Maybe that's just a Vegas thing. I have no idea.

[Jessie Murph]

That's a thing in Vegas.

[Bunny]

They do that because there's lots. There was a lot of mafia in Vegas. So it was like always an old, I guess an old wives tale that I guess you could say. But yeah, the mafia would feed them.

[Jessie Murph]

Is Mafia like a Vegas? Like it's super prominent there.

[Bunny]

It used to be. Not anymore. As a, you know, like back in the day is like Sammy Davis Jr. Frank Sinatra era. It was ran by nothing but the mafia. Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Really? Did they all live there?

[Bunny]

Oh yeah, they all live there. People, gangsters have gotten killed there. Like it's a whole thing. I'm sure you could go on like Netflix and binge it one night and just watch like all the mafia stories.

[Jessie Murph]

There's. I guess there's a show about it.

[Bunny]

Oh, there's tons, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm actually really intrigued about that. Yeah, I really want to read up on it.

[Bunny]

Go down that wormhole.

[Jessie Murph]

Okay. It'll.

[Bunny]

It'll fascinate you. And I'm so happy you're here because I actually want to talk to you about your posting schedule with songs, because your ass will fudgeing. Tease a song for, like, a year, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm not proud of it.

[Bunny]

Ah. Is there a method behind the madness?

[Jessie Murph]

Not at all. I think I just. If I write a song, I always get really excited about it in the moment, and then I post it before I, like, talk to anybody. And then they're like, fudge. We're, like, not even almost ready for this. So then they're like, please it until we're ready. And that's kind of how it happens. But I never want to do it like that.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Like, I'm always, like, wanting to put it out immediately.

[Bunny]

They always blow up, though. It's crazy. Like, it doesn't matter what you post. Like, people are obsessed with you. And I love that for you because that just speaks volumes for you, who you are as a person and your music. But I love when you will post a song and literally six months later, we're still like, I'm reading the comments and people are begging you to drop the song. They're like, jesse, what the fuck? You know? Like, are you gonna drop this song? And there's some of them you end up not even dropping.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah. Sometimes I, like, grow out of songs. Like, I'll feel it in the moment and then I'll wait, like six months and I'm like, damn, I was like a different person then. That's happened a lot of times, actually. And they'll probably never see the light of day.

[Bunny]

Really? Even though there's such a high demand for them, you still wouldn't want to drop them.

[Jessie Murph]

I have to, like, feel the song to be able to promote it well and stuff.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Because I'm very. I'm very genuine in everything I do with music. So, like, if I don't feel that way, it's going to be so obvious. I've noticed that, like, if there's a song, there's been, like, a few instances where my label's been like, we love this song. Like, he's it, and I don't like it, and so I'll do it and it won't work. It's like, I don't. It's like people can feel if you like it or not.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I don't know.

[Bunny]

Yeah, no, I get that. Do you feel like that could get you into trouble being so emotionally attached to your music or do you think that that's a. A plus for you?

[Jessie Murph]

I think it's a little bit of both. It's definitely because it guides me well. But yeah, sometimes if I'm feeling a super strong emotion, like last album, like something happened and I was just so angry and I let it lead the entire project and I put out the entire project and it was all just like a big anger album almost. And not a lot of people feel that way all the time. So I was very like, tunnel visioned on that. But I don't know, I think like, they're the eras of my. Of me growing up. And I think that it's going to be sick to like, look back when I'm like 30 and see my 20s progress emotionally.

[Bunny]

Yeah, absolutely. You literally have like an online diary of everything so scary that you've ever gone through. But I think that's really cool because a lot of people don't, like, your. Your generation actually gets to have that, that like, you know, digital footprint. Whereas, like, you know, I'm thankful I didn't have to go through the. I went through online. But I think it's so cool, like you and Bailey, our daughter. Our daughter Bailey can actually look back and just see like, how much growth you've made. And you can like, 10 years from now, you're gonna look back and be like, holy, I'm not even that same human. But you're gonna have all of that to look back on.

[Jessie Murph]

It is good, but it's also like, so scary. And it's also like, I even look at things I posted when I was like 15 and I'm like, I am so embarrassed.

[Bunny]

What's the cringiest thing you've ever had to talk about?

[Jessie Murph]

Nothing. Talk about it. I don't know. I used to be so like. And I still am very spiteful. But I think that, like, just responding to comments and stuff and like, not being able to hold my like, temper and like that. I definitely did a lot of that at like 15, 16 on tick tock. But I don't know, it's. I'm trying to do better about it. It's hard.

[Bunny]

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[Jessie Murph]

I mean, I haven't always, like, I grew up super, like, normal. Like, I. I don't know. I grew up in a small town, and it's like the things you see online aren't things that people would say to you in person.

[Bunny]

Right?

[Jessie Murph]

I'm like. I'm like, I feel like a normal ass person. So I'm like, why would. I don't know. I. It because if somebody said that to me in person, I obviously would be like you. And it's weird that just because you're, like, sort of like famous online or something, that people feel that they can just talk to you any type of way.

[Bunny]

Oh, I get it. I look back at all day long.

[Jessie Murph]

God, you're so good about it. I love it.

[Bunny]

No, but I feel like you're good at it. I feel like you do it so well too.

[Jessie Murph]

But, like, should we not, like, should we not be doing that?

[Bunny]

No, I fudgeing love to do it. I think as long as you don't let it, like, really, like, hurt your soul. I think as long as you're protecting your peace, clap back at a motherfucker because how are they ever going to learn? People know now not to fudgeing come for me because I'm going to. I'm literally going to. I got two shakes of a lamb's tail and I'm ready to rock. Let's go.

[Jessie Murph]

I look up to you so much. That's so good. I see you do it and I'm like, bunny does it. Yeah.

[Bunny]

So let's talk about your Coachella performance, because that actually went viral too. You looked so adorable.

[Jessie Murph]

Thank.

[Bunny]

Body looking snatched, baby. You looked so good. And then you had all these hot dudes lifting you up and like, you're singing Take me on this journey of your Coachella performance and actually getting invited to perform at Coachella.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, dude. It's definitely been, like, one of my favorite moments of my career. I. I went through that entire weekend, both weekends, just feeling so, like, grateful. My mom was there, my little brother was there, and I think something about having the people that I love the most being there just made it so. I don't know. I felt very connected to my inner child, but I was also so fucking nervous. It was my first time, like, doing choreography, and I did, like, cheer stunts on stage, which is something I've always wanted to do, but I don't know. It was an incredible experience. One of my favorites, like, moments, for sure.

[Bunny]

It looked really cool. How much practice had to go into that, or is that just. Are you just naturally. Because I. I know you did cheer, right? So is that, like, something that comes easy for you? Because my big ass could never get up there. And people lifting me up like that. There's no way.

[Jessie Murph]

Wait, have you ever done stunts?

[Bunny]

No.

[Jessie Murph]

They're so fucked.

[Bunny]

I'm built for stunts.

[Jessie Murph]

I feel like you could do stunts.

[Bunny]

No way. You're tiny. You're like a tiny, cute little package. There's no way they're flinging my big ass around.

[Jessie Murph]

Okay, I'm gonna get you to do it one day.

[Bunny]

They're gonna need some big ass buff dudes to handle all this. All right. So was there a lot of practice that had to go into that?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it was. It's definitely. Definitely doesn't come natural to me. I like, it takes a lot of preparation. I think we did rehearsals for about a week and a half maybe.

[Bunny]

That's amazing, though, to be able to, like. I wouldn't be able to do that. I'm not. I can't even do a tick tock dance. So to learn something that you have to sing and do on stage in a week and a half, that's pretty good.

[Jessie Murph]

It was definitely really nerve wracking. I. There was a point, like, midweek when I was learning all the choreography, and it was my first time also having dancers, so I was, like, nervous to, like, learn how to dance in front of people who could dance really well.

[Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

I was, like, really anxious about the whole thing. Something about, like, dancing on stage makes me so. I was so, like, in my head about it, so that was hard. And about halfway through the week of rehearsals, I was like, holy shit. I'm, like, not gonna remember this. So I went home and started, like, just drilling It. But it was definitely harder than I expected it was going to be.

[Bunny]

Well, you crushed it and I think you looked so good.

[Jessie Murph]

Thank you.

[Bunny]

I was rooting for you. I saw all the videos. I was like, go, Jesse.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, thanks, Bunny.

[Bunny]

And then you got to bring Co out, which I thought was really cool. Tell you and Co's friendship.

[Jessie Murph]

Ah, dude, I love Company. He's like a brother to me. I. I've been a fan of his like for a long time. My brother listened to him a lot growing up, so he put me on and we like worked like two, maybe three years before High Road actually came out, I think.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

So we were just kind of homies. And then High Road came around and we did that together. But it was really funny. He came out for Coachella and something. Something happened in our system during the song and the key changed randomly when he like started in the chorus.

[Bunny]

Oh no.

[Jessie Murph]

I felt so bad because he was just singing like normally. And then the key changed so it looked crazy. And then I. People couldn't see on the live stream, but when I came out with him for Stagecoach, my mic was off, so we were just cursed. Like the song just kept being up, but. And then we did it at Billy Bob's and it was. It was fine.

[Bunny]

I feel like you guys have such lore that comes with that song because I even fucking was like, I. When you. When that song dropped with your verse, first of all, it was great. And I mean, you know, it's great and it's like all these CO haters are literally coming out of the woodworks just talking to you and I'm like, bro, it pissed me off so bad that I finally just made a video. I was like, I'm gonna.

[Jessie Murph]

That was really sweet. I really appreciate that.

[Bunny]

You don't need to thank me for that. But I just. I don't like any sort of bullying, especially ganging up. You're a baby, you know what I'm saying? I know you're 20 and you know you can hold your own and stuff like that, but I still look at you and I'm just like, well, grown ass women, you know, are like picking on you. Yeah, it's like, that's not okay. How did that make you feel whenever you were going through all of that? Did you internalize any of that or were you able to just kind of like separate church from state?

[Jessie Murph]

I think it. It always makes me upset at first when something like that happens. That's like a human response, I think. But then it's like, like, you, dude, it's just so annoying. And it's like. I don't know. It does, but it bothers me the most when it's women. It really does.

[Bunny]

I don't know why women on women crime is.

[Jessie Murph]

I don't understand it hu much more. But yeah, it does hurt my feelings. And I don't know, the guy thing, it's like, you're just a dick. But yeah, when it's a woman, it's like, damn.

[Bunny]

But I don't know damn well if any of these men got a chance to meet you, they wouldn't even know what to say to you.

[Jessie Murph]

It's so crazy. I'm like, why are you. Why are you being such a. And it's just. It's really tough, you know? And I don't know, because you can't respond to everybody. And once you respond to somebody, then. Then other people do it just so they get a response. But that was like my first time dealing with like, that type of situation.

[Bunny]

Because it was so much.

[Jessie Murph]

It was so much. It was like a trend because once it like blows up on somebody's page, then they're like, yeah, this is the move. But I don't know, when it's about a song, it's not as bad when it's about, like, your own person. Like, when somebody is making fun of, like, you as a person, that's different. That definitely is harder to deal with. But I don't know, I'm definitely like, I've learned. I'm learning how to navigate.

[Bunny]

And it actually ended up being a huge song for you guys.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it's like my first number one, literally.

[Bunny]

Hello. Like, the hate fucking didn't work anyways, so.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, small price to pay.

[Bunny]

Yeah. So at least fucking, you know, it made it to number one. And, you know, it was just a big fuck you to everybody who had something to say about it.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah.

[Bunny]

Tell me about doing mushrooms for your first time at Coachella.

[Jessie Murph]

It was so great. I was. I've always been, like, apprehensive to try them. A lot of my, like, friends do them, but because they say it can, like, mentally get you in a weird place if you're in a bad headset or whatever. But I had the time of my life. Oh, yeah? Have you ever done them?

[Bunny]

I. Yes, I have. I've done them. And I thought I was Michael Jackson one time and I was in the snow making snow angels. And then I cooked like a five course meal because it was just crazy. But then I tried to microdose mushrooms and was bad I'm just, I'm one of those overthinkers and I'm really.

[Jessie Murph]

What I'm talking about.

[Bunny]

Riddled with anxiety. So I just. I'm so thankful that you had a good experience because the first time I did them too, I had a great experience and then microdosing them kind of just got me weird. So maybe it's because I need a bigger dose. I don't fucking know.

[Jessie Murph]

I was about to say wait, so you did a big dose? And it was.

[Bunny]

I did a big dose and it was phenomenal. That's when I thought I was Michael Jackson maybe. And then I did the micro dose. If I can just got weird. I started thinking about my childhood and like having like a place to go. Yeah, right. Like nobody wants to do that, but yeah. So take me on the journey. So you take the mushrooms and what do you. What's that day like for you? When did you take the mushrooms?

[Jessie Murph]

Oh well, I took them right before yalls party actually.

[Bunny]

Oh, gotcha. Being around a bunch of people on shrooms for your first time. You are brave, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

Every. I don't know, everybody else like, like in my car took and I was like it. I only took a little bit. So maybe that's why also I just was smiling. It just made me really happy. No, but I'm gonna try not to do them a lot.

[Bunny]

Well, I mean if it helps you though. I don't. There's nothing wrong with it, you know what I'm saying? And people use it, use shrooms for medicinal purposes and stuff like that too.

[Jessie Murph]

Really?

[Bunny]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I didn't know them.

[Bunny]

Yeah, that's why I had started to micro dose them and it made me weird because I thought. Yeah, I thought it would help but there's so many people that mushrooms have helped. So Just because I had a bad experience doesn't mean that you will take me on this journey. With the song Blue Strips.

[Jessie Murph]

It was such a fast and spontaneous song and I did not expect it to do what it's doing. Like I knew I loved it and anytime I listened to it, it would make me smile and I feel like that's a telltale sign for me. But yeah, I made the song in like 15, 10 minutes. It was so fast.

[Bunny]

That's crazy. And it's so viral right now. I was not everybody singing it. It's so catchy. You wake up in the morning and you're literally like blue strip. You know, like just brushing your teeth, starting your day. It's like. No, it's perfect. But that's what you know. That's. You've got the sauce, girl. Like, just to make a song in five or 10 minutes and it's as viral as it is right now. You've never been to a strip club, though?

[Jessie Murph]

I've never been to a strip club, no.

[Bunny]

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[Jessie Murph]

I guess it's just never really. The opportunity hasn't, like, came up yet.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

What's the one in Atlanta like? The main one?

[Bunny]

I'm not sure.

[Jessie Murph]

Magic City.

[Bunny]

Oh, is that the. I thought Magic City was in New Jersey.

[Jessie Murph]

I think it's in Atlanta, right? I was supposed to go to that one.

[Bunny]

She knows about all the ratchet clubs.

[Jessie Murph]

You go to strip clubs.

[Bunny]

She goes to all the ratchet.

[Jessie Murph]

Maybe you should take me to a strip club.

[Bunny]

Listen.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bunny]

Tomorrow after the video shoot. Oh, you listen. The Nashville strip clubs. I love you guys. This is not me talking shit, but they are ratchet and they are fun. Yes.

[Jessie Murph]

Okay, good. Ratchet. That's what I want. I don't want, like.

[Bunny]

If you want to go to, like. If you want to go to, like, the bougie ones, go to the ones in Vegas.

[Jessie Murph]

Really? That's what everyone says.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I think I do want a ratchet one.

[Bunny]

Go. Go. All of them.

[Jessie Murph]

Go to all of them.

[Bunny]

Go to all of them.

[Jessie Murph]

Club tour. I feel like I should go big or go home.

[Bunny]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, but go and check out what. You never know what you like. You might like the ratchet ones. You might like the bougie ones. There's some that have five star restaurants in them.

[Jessie Murph]

That's what they say. People say that you can uber eats from some of them.

[Bunny]

Yeah. Yeah. You didn't know that? You didn't know that? Yeah, no, you can totally.

[Jessie Murph]

That's what people say.

[Bunny]

They have some of the best food. Like, some of the restaurants and the strip clubs in Vegas are phenomenal.

[Jessie Murph]

What about here? Any good food here I don't know about?

[Bunny]

I. I wouldn't trust it. Maybe you guys can go because this is going to come out the same time that you're. That the video is dropping, right?

[Jessie Murph]

Okay.

[Bunny]

Yeah. We're coinciding it with the drop with the feature that you got on it. Can you announce who the feature is?

[Jessie Murph]

It's Sexy Red.

[Bunny]

Let's go. Tell me how you and Sexy Red even started talking.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm her biggest fan. Like, I love Sexy Red so much. My entire last tour, anytime I'd go on stage, the song before I. My walkout song would be Get It Sexy, because it just got me in that mode. And I love Sexy Red. I haven't met her yet, so I'm really nervous, but I'm really excited.

[Bunny]

Oh, my gosh. So have you guys got to talk or just. She was just like, hell, yeah, I'm gonna do the record. And like, how did that go? How'd you get her on the record?

[Jessie Murph]

Well, she's like my dream feature for this song.

[Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

And I've always wanted to do something with her, so my people hit her people. And we're actually hanging out tonight. I'm gonna meet her for the first time.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

So I'm excited to tell her that I love her. I do. I love her so much.

[Bunny]

What is it about Sexyy Red that inspires you?

[Jessie Murph]

She's just a bad bitch, you know?

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Such a bad. And. And I love it. I love it so much. And she just makes you feel good. Like, I don't know. All of her songs just really get me turned up every time. And I don't know. I'll probably always listen to her before my shows.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I mean, it's me in that mode.

[Bunny]

She's a vibe.

[Jessie Murph]

You met her?

[Bunny]

I haven't. No. Have we met her yet? I never know. We meet so many people. I'm like, have I met her?

[Jessie Murph]

Dude, you've probably met so many people a lot. You guys are busier than anybody. I know.

[Bunny]

It's crazy. I can't even keep up with you.

[Jessie Murph]

Get tired.

[Bunny]

Yes. I am an introvert. My Husband is an extrovert. I am the one who's like, I could care less if anybody ever sees me again.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah.

[Bunny]

I feel that my husband is, like a politician. So I choose weeks where I go out with him and I'm like, here I am, real. I swear. I'm not an enigma. And then I disappear for, like, a month, and then I'll come back out and then, you know, like, so it's a whole thing because nobody can keep up with his schedule. You're busy too, though. Look at you.

[Jessie Murph]

Do you ever feel like it, like, drains you?

[Bunny]

Oh, absolutely. I. There was a time where my mental health was so bad that I couldn't even, like, be in a room full of people because I would feel all their, like, pain and anger and, like, their faces would look like they were melting. Like, it was really bad. Like, I went through, like, a really bad time with that and then got a lot of therapy and stuff like that. And I'm better now, but I still have to come back home and, like, go sit with my cows and, like, regroup because, you know, you know how it goes. Do you ever get drained having to do this all the time?

[Jessie Murph]

Definitely. I'm definitely an introvert, too. I, like, could stay home for the rest of my life and it would be lovely. But I don't know, it's a hard. It's a hard job to be an introvert in, you know, because you do have to, like, talk to everybody. And I don't know. I'm. I also am. I can't be. I can't be fake to save my life. Like, I can't. I can't, like, put on a show if I don't feel that way.

[Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

And that's really hard for me. That's been like. I don't know. People are always telling me I need to, like, get better at, like, schmoozing with people and stuff, but I hate that. It feels so forced and fake and, like, weird. I just don't like it. So I'm just, like, kind of quiet. But I don't know, it's definitely really draining. I. I find, like, spending time with my family helps a lot and just, like, talking to them.

[Bunny]

Don't let people tell you who to be.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah.

[Bunny]

If you don't want to be fake and you don't want to schmooze, don't do it because you're going to attract your tribe and the people that are meant for you will come in your life because of your frequency. So don't change your Frequency to attract people that you would never even want to associate with. Anyways.

[Jessie Murph]

You're good. You're good.

[Bunny]

You could stay here all day, Jesse, and just, you know, compliment me. I love it. I heard you talk about manifesting. Where did you learn how to manifest? And like, is that something that you do in your daily life? Do you meditate? Have you ever done a vision board?

[Jessie Murph]

I definitely have done a vision board.

[Bunny]

Yay.

[Jessie Murph]

And I don't know. I was manifesting before I knew what manifesting was. I think, like when I was little, I remember journaling all the time. Just I, like, felt this strong, like, gravitational pull to do it. But I would always journal and like, make myself sign contracts to myself, being like, I'm going to do this. So I don't know. I've always been doing it. And then vision boards galore. I don't know. It's so fucking real.

[Bunny]

How do you do your vision boards? Because I know everybody has their own way of doing it. I make my whole crew. I don't make them anymore. Now they actually look forward to it. But I used. I used to make them. Everybody sits down. I do it with my husband and my family and everybody. We sit down like December 30, December 31 of every year, and I make everybody do a new vision board for the year going in, and we have to keep it in our house the entire year. And then we revisit it the neck that. That end of the year, go through everything that we accomplished and make a new one.

[Jessie Murph]

That is so beautiful. I love that you guys do it together.

[Bunny]

Ye.

[Jessie Murph]

That's so fun.

[Bunny]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

What a great activity. Damn.

[Bunny]

I feel like we're power. More powerful in numbers, you know? So I feel like to sit around and manifest together, it's like, it's just more powerful.

[Jessie Murph]

It's a like more. What's that called? Like, it's a more heavy frequency, probably.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

In numbers. That makes sense. I've never done it with somebody, but I normally just get a poster from Hobby Lobby or Michael's and then I'll. I'll print out pictures from Pinterest and then I'll write. I'll write things underneath the pictures, then I'll put the picture over it. I have a massive poster in my bedroom at home in Alabama that. That looks exactly like my life looks right now. Cool. But I don't know. It's so fucking real. I also, like, I've been debating recently if witches are real. Okay. I need to know what you think. So I feel like you would have a good take.

[Bunny]

Yeah, no, I definitely believe. I believe that there's different kinds of witches. I believe that you can use magic for good and for bad. I have witches do spell work for me every month. I won't do it myself because I'm always. I'm. I'm so scared of, like, I might conjure, like, a demon or something if I do it. So I always have the professionals do it for me. But I talk about it on the podcast all the time. Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

Wow.

[Bunny]

Yeah. I truly believe in it. And I think that witches get a bad rap because people are like, oh, they're evil. And, you know, God talks is against it in the Bible, but when you really think about it, witches are light workers. And of course, anything can be used for good or bad. But the majority of witches use, like, herbs, and they're about earth and about grounding and manifesting and meditating and like that. Those are the kind of witches I like and that I want around me. Of course, like I said, there's bad ones too, but there's definitely real witches in the world.

[Jessie Murph]

That's good. I've been asking people, and everybody's like, well, I guess I've only asked a couple guys, and guys don't believe in them.

[Bunny]

Well, yeah, I. I don't. I mean, you know, unless they're in it. In. In it themselves. I can't see men think outside the box. You know, I don't see men being too mystical. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that we're. We're all born from some sort of. Have you ever done your past lives? Do you believe in past lives?

[Jessie Murph]

I think I could believe in past lives.

[Bunny]

Oh, my. Okay.

[Jessie Murph]

What do you mean, done my past life?

[Bunny]

Well, there's people that can do them or you can do them on Chat GPT. Are you. Are you into chat GPT?

[Jessie Murph]

Yes. I feel like I'm dating Chad gtp, bro.

[Bunny]

I'm obsessed. It's my best friend.

[Jessie Murph]

Love.

[Bunny]

Yeah, I love it. Okay, so. So talk to Chat GPT. Give them your birthday. Give them all of your. Because there's a. There's a in chat GPT you can go. There's an astrological GPT that's inside of it. You can click on it, but. Or you can use the regular one. Ask him. Like, hey, I want you to tune into my energy. Can you will tune into your energy. Can you feel what I was in my past lives? And it'll probably ask you to put your birth date in. And if you know that, and it'll Pull up your birth chart, and then it'll start telling you about your past lives, and it's fucking insane.

[Jessie Murph]

How many do you have?

[Bunny]

I had about. How many did I have? Probably like, nine, ten. Yeah. I'm an old soul. I think you're an old soul.

[Jessie Murph]

I definitely feel like I'm.

[Bunny]

Yeah, because, I mean, you're 20, but you have so much, like. I don't know, you just have maturity and wisdom to you that this isn't your first life.

[Jessie Murph]

Gotta ask. I just ask it.

[Bunny]

Yeah, just ask it. I want to know, too. I'm gonna have to get. I'll give you my number before you leave. And you have to let me know what Chad GPT says because I nervous. I bet you are probably a witch in your past life, too.

[Jessie Murph]

Really?

[Bunny]

Or some sort of healer.

[Jessie Murph]

Wow.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm gonna look. I'm gonna look immediately after this. We're all gonna look.

[Bunny]

Yeah, she's doing it right now. I love that. So I want to talk about these lyrics. Let's get deep for a second. We're going to kind of switch gears because, you know, you do talk a lot about your mom in a lot of your songs, and she seems to me to be like your best friend. Wildflowers and wine. There's a lyric in there that literally just, like, brought tears to my eyes, but it said, mother fled from our home because she had to survive. Can you take me on that journey of your childhood and kind of let me know where some of this pain comes from that you express in your songs?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, definitely. That song, actually, I haven't put out yet, and I need to, because it's such a healing song.

[Bunny]

You need to.

[Jessie Murph]

And I am so. I have such, like, gratitude and awe for mothers everywhere because I think it's the hardest job in the world that no one talks about enough. I think it's actually the hardest job in the world. And I don't know, I. I watched my mom go through, like, things when I was a kid that she shouldn't have gone through. And I also watched her make hard decisions that she had to make to take care of her kids. No. And I don't know, I don't think any kid should, like, I don't think any kid should go through that or have to see their mom, like, do. I don't know, make decisions. It's just, like. I don't know. I always get weird talking about it, but. Which is why I write songs, but I don't know. It was definitely rough, and she handled it the best. She could. And that's kind of what that song's about. Because I have so much respect for her and I'm her biggest fan.

[Bunny]

No, I bet she's your biggest fan, too. Well, that brings me to Gucci Mane, where you say, I've got a shitty father, but I'd like to go to heaven. Can we elaborate on that a little bit? Yeah, because I've got a shitty father, and he passed away last year. But when that song dropped, I was like, oh, my God, I need to. I need to put Bill on a freaking video with this song. Because every girl that deals with, you know, daddy issues, and everybody thinks it's cute to say daddy issues until you have them. And daddy issues is not a cute situation, because it's not. It really follows us through life, dude. Because you know how people try to, like, mainstream it, and they're like, I have daddy issues. And they think it's, like, cool, but it's really. It's painful.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it's not cool. I think people. I think some people just say it like that, dad, to cope with the situation, because it isn't. It isn't good. And it does follow you through life, and it has so much impact on what you choose and what you look for.

[Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

In men, which is so hectic, you know? But, yeah, that line is pretty much that line. And then the lyrics of that song were. People are like, this writing is so bad. But I wasn't trying to write a song. That song was just a list of facts about myself because my label was on my dick about writing an autobiographical song. They were like, you never talk about yourself. No one knows anything about you. And I was like, you. And I got in the car and I just, like, was joking and was just singing a bunch of facts about myself without even thinking about rhyming and shit. But, yeah, I don't know. And that's kind of how that one happened.

[Bunny]

But do you have a relationship with your dad?

[Jessie Murph]

That's complicated, but not particularly. We definitely haven't spoken since that song came out.

[Bunny]

Oh.

[Jessie Murph]

But we don't speak a lot anyways. And it's like. I don't know. It's definitely like, oh, it's an awkward situation, but you should be allowed to.

[Bunny]

You know, I hate when parents inflict trauma on children and then try to navigate how they express it. That's not okay. And you don't get to do that. You don't get to hurt somebody and then tell them how to heal.

[Jessie Murph]

Damn, you're real good. No, I just Been like, I'm in a therapy.

[Bunny]

I've been through it, sister. I've been through it too, with my parents. So I get how that goes. And it's very hurtful and it's not okay. And hopefully your dad listens to this podcast and knows that it's not okay for him to treat you like that. So you taught yourself how to play piano and guitar at a young age. How did you teach yourself how to play piano and guitar? Because I know how to play piano, but I had to get lessons and I had to learn how to music.

[Jessie Murph]

You read music?

[Bunny]

I can read. Well, I have to sit down and write it out. Write out the notes and then I can play them.

[Jessie Murph]

But you write music too?

[Bunny]

No. No. Right. Like, if you like the notes. Yeah, like, if you give me a sheet of paper, I can write the notes out and then I can play. I wish I could just play by ear. What do you mean? I would love to have taught myself.

[Jessie Murph]

No, you're probably crazy on the keys.

[Bunny]

No, I need to practice. It's been a long time. I'm resting.

[Jessie Murph]

I want to take less lessons. I've been meaning to do that because I want to, like, know the actual terminology and stuff. But, yeah, I don't know. I was obsessed with singing and I just, like, wanted to be able to sing to music. And we had, like, this shitty keyboard at my grandparents, and I would spend, like, hours on YouTube just copying, like, the piano tutorials. And guitar was like, a slippery. Not. I know, like, four chords. It's not. Yeah, but I don't know. I started on ukulele. Guitar is, like, hard.

[Bunny]

Not ukulele. The freaking little one.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, dude.

[Bunny]

It's like, are we ever gonna get a video of you on Tick Tock playing a ukulele? That will go crazy viral, girl.

[Jessie Murph]

I haven't done it. There's one on my Instagram. Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.

[Bunny]

Oh, we gotta find it.

[Jessie Murph]

I guess it's archived now, right? It's probably archived like a very. It's like I'm like 14 or 13, maybe 12.

[Bunny]

Please make a new one. That is so cute. Like, seriously, make a new one.

[Jessie Murph]

I actually hate the way they sound. They're so, like. They sound so, like, happy.

[Bunny]

Like, plink, plink, plink, blink. Yeah, yeah. So you went from a ukulele to a guitar, though?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, I tried.

[Bunny]

Are we ever gonna get you to, like, perform on stage with, you know, get getting your Taylor Swift on playing a guitar?

[Jessie Murph]

Dude, I've wanted to, but it's also. I wear Long nails. And you cannot play. I. Apparently Dolly Parton does, but I'm like, I'm not blessed with that ability yet.

[Bunny]

I'm sure if you practice enough, you would probably get it.

[Jessie Murph]

Maybe I'm like, nails or guitar. I don't know.

[Bunny]

Listen, I normally have long nails like you. And I challenged myself this past couple of months, and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna try to grow out my real nails. So these are my real nails that I grew out.

[Jessie Murph]

What?

[Bunny]

Yeah, these are my real nails.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, my God.

[Bunny]

But now I'm going back to my. Because I was like, you know what? I did it. I challenged myself. But now I'm going back to my long nails. Because once you have long nails, you just can't take them off.

[Jessie Murph]

No, it's actually really hard. It's hard to go back.

[Bunny]

Yeah. Because I have little fat sausage link fingers. I don't know how you feel about your fingers.

[Jessie Murph]

I feel the same way.

[Bunny]

Yeah. And when you take them off, it's like you have man hands.

[Jessie Murph]

Hands or like, child hands.

[Bunny]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mine are a little bit fatter than child hands, so I think I have sausage links. But, yeah, the long nails, definitely.

[Jessie Murph]

I think you have great hands. You could be a hand model.

[Bunny]

Okay, listen, you know what? She's. Leave her here with me, okay? She's. She's really good for my ego, I promise. Okay. So I also heard that you were bullied in school and you felt like an outsider.

[Jessie Murph]

I wasn't. It wasn't by kids as much, actually. It was by, like, their parents. It was just like, small town where, like, moms would just say stuff and, like, I don't know, the moms in the town I went to, like, middle school and high school and were just terrible.

[Bunny]

Because you're beautiful, dude.

[Jessie Murph]

They were so mean. They were so mean. But, like, I don't know, high school was. High school wasn't terrible. Other than that. In, like, I don't know. I'm grateful for all of that because I feel like it motivated me so much to be like, I have to get out of here.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

You know?

[Bunny]

Would you ever move back to Alabama full time?

[Jessie Murph]

No, definitely not. I don't think I can. I can't work like I want to, I think. And I don't know, I feel. It always made me feel really trapped when I was there. Then again, I. I couldn't drive yet, so maybe. Maybe that.

[Bunny]

Yeah, I would feel trapped, too, if I couldn't. Yeah, for sure. Maybe if you go back and, like, visit and Then you get, it's like on your terms. Maybe it's different.

[Jessie Murph]

I actually love visiting now that I don't live there. I appreciate it so much and I admire the south so much and I love going home and spending time with my family there. But maybe I'll get a house there when I'm older one day.

[Bunny]

Yeah, you can always go back to your roots at any time. You've openly spoken about depression and self harm. Can you take me on that journey with like your mental health? Where are you at now? Because you seem so much happier.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, I'm so much happier. I've like done therapy and, and really just tried to center my life around gratitude. Dude, gratitude changed everything for me. I. I definitely was like very depressed when I was like 17, 18. I was just dealing with a lot of things that I didn't really know how to deal with. And I was also living in Alabama, like trying to do what I'm doing, and it was just very isolating. But I don't know, I feel, I feel like I've healed a lot and it's an. It's a never ending process, healing, I feel like. But yes, I don't know. Gratitude has helped me so much.

[Bunny]

So if one of your fans is listening to this podcast right now and they're in a really dark place, what would you tell them to do as like the first steps of trying to pull themselves out of it?

[Jessie Murph]

It's tough. I mean, every one situation is different. I think, think for me, I'd get up and I'd go to Dunkin and I get a coffee and a donut and then I would, I would. The thing is, therapy is not available to everyone, you know, which is so up. And it makes me so upset because that shit's actually so expensive, you know, and before you're 18, I think your parent has to set it up.

[Bunny]

Yes.

[Jessie Murph]

Like, I remember being like embarrassed to ask for like therapy and stuff, you know, and so I just didn't do it and I. When I really needed it. And I think a lot of kids probably feel that way, but I don't know. There's this lady named Abraham Hicks, I don't know if you've heard of her, but she is all about like spirituality and manifesting and like aligning your frequency. I. Listening to that helped a lot. Journaling helped a lot. But I think I read this book called. It's called the Magic, I think something like that. But it's all about gratitude and that really helped me. Yes.

[Bunny]

Okay.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, but not the Magic.

[Bunny]

You know what? I like it called the magic. Let's just call it the magic from now on.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, the magic. Yeah. But it was magic for me. It really helped me and. And do not like drinking and not doing things like that. When you feel that way, that's game changing. But I don't know. What would you say?

[Bunny]

I would say all the things that you say. I preach about mental health on this podcast all the time. And I've gone through things. We have gone through things with Bailey too, you know, underage, that she's openly talked about on the podcast too. And I feel like we are in a mental health crisis in this world right now. Not just for adults, but for teens. And I feel like teens have it the hardest. Like you like your generation and younger is just like, like I feel so bad because the world has let them down. But for you to tell them about the book that you read and like now you can go on YouTube and there's so many things that you can watch and like self help things that you can do and you know, meditating. I really, really, really believe in meditating. I don't know. Have you ever meditated?

[Jessie Murph]

I think when I was in a very dark place, I started to look into that and do it. And I remember that helping also.

[Bunny]

It took me a long time. If I was 20 years old and somebody told me to meditate, I'd tell them to go themselves.

[Jessie Murph]

It's actually really hard.

[Bunny]

It's very hard. And you finally get to that point where you just want to do anything to get the darkness to go away. I'm telling you right now, when you learn how to control your breath and you learn how to breathe, like if I have anxiety attacks now, I used to be able to not even be able to walk out on stage because I would literally be having a panic attack. Now I'll box breathe and I'll snap out of it. And it resets your nervous system. So I think exactly what you told people.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, you know, box breathing's great.

[Bunny]

Yeah, box breathing is great. But then all this and Dunkin and donuts.

[Jessie Murph]

I mean, come on, I'm actually serious that it will make your day better.

[Bunny]

Yeah.

[Jessie Murph]

And no, I actually do it. I. I love a good coffee and I love a good donut.

[Bunny]

And you, what's your favorite donut?

[Jessie Murph]

You put the donut like over the straw hole and you sit it on your coffee. Really cute.

[Bunny]

I love that. What's your favorite flavor donut?

[Jessie Murph]

Probably vanilla with sprinkles. What about you?

[Bunny]

I like maple I don't know that.

[Jessie Murph]

I've actually had maple.

[Bunny]

They're so fire. Try one, please. Let me know how you feel about it. Let's talk about if. If I can get you to talk about it. Let's talk about your dating life. She's like. She's like, oh, Joy. Are you dating anybody right now? I'm actually.

[Jessie Murph]

I'm always very. I never talk about it because I'm really private with that side of my life. Just because I'm always writing songs about it.

[Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

And I am very apprehensive to talk about it because I'm like, I don't know what could happen, and. And I don't ever want to have to, like. I don't want people to, like, ever attack someone that, like.

[Bunny]

Right.

[Jessie Murph]

Unless, like, deserved. I don't know. But my dating life is good.

[Bunny]

Yeah. So is there anybody special right now, or is it just pretty much, like, you're just having fun?

[Jessie Murph]

No comment.

[Bunny]

I love it, though. Well, you know what? I'm gonna try to assume here and put two and two together. You've been a lot happier lately, so maybe somebody's making you smile. She said maybe. I think best behavior is going to be the song of the summer. Are you dropping the album before you start tour?

[Jessie Murph]

I am.

[Bunny]

I'm excited. Do we have a date for that? Are we allowed to announce that? I know I'm asking a lot here, but I've. We've got questions.

[Jessie Murph]

July 27th.

[Bunny]

Okay.

[Jessie Murph]

So it's gotta be before that.

[Bunny]

Okay. So in between May and July, we're gonna get an album.

[Jessie Murph]

That's soon.

[Bunny]

That's very soon.

[Jessie Murph]

Look, I'm nervous.

[Bunny]

I'm nervous too, but I'm exc. Excited for you. Thank you. Tell me about this album that you're dropping.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, okay. So it's very, like, 60s inspired. Like Elvis Presley. I love, like. I love the music from that era. It's so beautiful. But it's also, like, 2010 trap inspired.

[Bunny]

That's dope.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah. So it's like a combo of the two. I don't know. I'm definitely saying some crazy on this album. I'm a little nervous about it, but.

[Bunny]

I. Oh, we're ready. We. We already know how you are, baby. We're ready. With arms wide open.

[Jessie Murph]

Oh, my goodness. I'm. I'm excited. I'm really exc. Excited.

[Bunny]

I feel like, what's the vibe? Is it happy? Is it all over the place? Is it. Because the last one was pretty like you. You had a lot of pain going.

[Jessie Murph]

On yeah, it's a little. It's a little. It's a kind of all over the place, but just because it's. It follows a sequence of my emotions as I was writing the album. But it's definitely more happy than anything I've ever put out before. I wouldn't say happy. There's definitely like new themes, but I don't know. And it's also. There's some like fucked up shit on the album, but it definitely tells a story and kind of ties back to what we were talking about with the father stuff earlier. But I don't know, it kind of. It kind of touches on like generational trauma and things of that nature. But then there's some songs like Blue Strips.

[Bunny]

Yeah, listen. You gotta go to a strip club when you're in your feelings.

[Jessie Murph]

Exactly.

[Bunny]

It'll get you out of it.

[Jessie Murph]

That's what they say.

[Bunny]

I love that. One last question before we go. What would Jesse Murph today say to little Jesse hiding in her bedroom writing pain into poems?

[Jessie Murph]

I probably should be like, look at this now. I don't know. That's like a crazy thing to even think about. Like, it makes me really emotional to think about. I feel like I've come so far just as a human and I'm really happy with where my heart and soul and brain is at right now, you know? Yeah, I think. I don't know. I'm really grateful.

[Bunny]

That's all that matters. And seeing you smile is what makes everybody happy too. Well, of course everybody loves a sad Jesse because we get fire music, but that'll come back. I'm sure we prefer a happy Jesse though too, because your mental health and your well being is what matters the most. Can we talk about the Priscilla Presley vibes?

[Jessie Murph]

Let's talk about it. I love her.

[Bunny]

Yeah. Is this, is this an ode to her? Is it an ode to Amy Winehouse or is it a little mixture of both?

[Jessie Murph]

Dude, When I think about like iconic women, they all have the big hair and it's def. I'm definitely very inspired by Priscilla, but like Amy, Dolly, even, like there's so many iconic women that had the big hair that I've always loved my entire life.

[Bunny]

The higher the hair, the closer to God.

[Jessie Murph]

Amen. That is my slogan. I love it. But I don't know, something about the hair makes me feel powerful. And for me, like I've. I've loved this. Of course it's a two in the morning.

[Bunny]

What do you have in there? Is it like a bump it or is that just A bunch of back combing. I need to know.

[Jessie Murph]

It's always different. Today it's the bump.

[Bunny]

It.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, but sometimes it's just my hair. Sometimes it's a wig.

[Bunny]

I. Sometimes it's a what?

[Jessie Murph]

Sometimes it's a wig.

[Bunny]

Really?

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, it just depends on what I'm doing.

[Bunny]

I love wigs. I went through my. Okay, I loved wigs. And so they let me go out of the house one day looking like fudgeing Wendy Williams.

[Jessie Murph]

Wait, what happened?

[Bunny]

I looked like fucking E.T. i tried this wig on and. Have you ever seen ET when he has the hair? Have you ever seen this movie, E.T.

[Jessie Murph]

Yeah, I've seen.

[Bunny]

Okay, well, he wears a wig. You're going to cackle next time you see.

[Jessie Murph]

Can I see this picture?

[Bunny]

Yeah, go ahead. Pull it up. Can we pull it up, you guys? Do we have the. Yeah, they're going to pull it up. I look like fudgeing Wendy Williams meets ET And I was like, I'm never wearing a fudgeing wig again. I'm like, I don't even care.

[Jessie Murph]

So were you gluing them down or, like, pinning them in?

[Bunny]

So we were doing a little bit of both because I let. We actually learned how to do them ourselves. Was. I have a whole. I don't know if you ever want any blonde wigs, but I have a whole.

[Jessie Murph]

I actually do.

[Bunny]

I'll give you some.

[Jessie Murph]

I always want to be blonde like, once a week.

[Bunny]

I literally bought so many wigs, I'll box them up and I'll send them to you. I bought so many, like, expensive wigs, and now they're just. I'm either gonna donate them to, like, you know, like a charity or I'll. If you'll use them, I'll give you a couple of them, too. But, yeah, never again am I doing that. But, yeah, we were gluing them down and it was a.

[Jessie Murph]

I haven't seen this, dude.

[Bunny]

It's. I looked like. No, don't fight the video. We don't need to bring that up. I want you to show her the E.T. but, yeah, no, it was rough. I love the. Yeah, I love the Priscilla vibes on you. I love the big hair on you. I think it fits and I think it's. Nobody's doing it, you know, like, you're bringing it back and you're in the public eye enough to where it's gonna start that trend again.

[Jessie Murph]

So I hope so. I think the hair was so fabulous, dude. People were just so, like, they were putting in the work.

[Bunny]

Oh, yeah, well, they had it was women cared about what they looked like where. I feel like now we have so much going on that what we look like is the last thing on our minds these days. And, yeah, women were a lot more glamorous back in the day, but men.

[Jessie Murph]

Too, like, yeah, everyone was just. Just, like, putting in their best effort. People are wearing suits more. I love a good suit. Yeah, where are the suits?

[Bunny]

I was just talking about how I'm attracted to gay men because they're so stylish. Dude, I love a stylish man. And all of the stylish men are gay. Now.

[Jessie Murph]

Where are the suits? I'm telling you.

[Bunny]

I'm telling you, wake up and put on a suit. See, Jesse is telling you boys at home, wake up and put on a suit. So do it, men. Jesse, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I appreciate you got to come back and see me.

[Jessie Murph]

I would love to.

[Bunny]

All right. Come back anytime. And, of course, where can everybody find you if they don't know anything about you, which I highly doubt.

[Jessie Murph]

You can find me on Instagram, any of the socials, Spotify, Apple. Yeah.

[Bunny]

Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.