Dumb Blonde Podcast: Kristin Spills Tea on Morgan Wallen, Jay Cutler & Montana Boy
Episode Date: January 16, 2026
Host: Bunnie XO
Guest: Kristin Cavallari
Episode Overview
This episode of "Dumb Blonde" features reality TV icon, entrepreneur, and author Kristin Cavallari, who joins Bunnie XO for an irreverent, candid, and sometimes spicy conversation. The two dish on Kristin’s journey from "Laguna Beach" to "Very Cavallari," her relationships (including with Jay Cutler, Morgan Wallen, and the infamous "Montana Boy"), realness about trauma and healing, celebrity drama, business-building, astrology, and more. Kristin pulls back the curtain on her public persona, offers reflections on growth, and sprinkles in juicy stories and wisdom with Bunnie’s signature unfiltered energy.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Kristin’s Origin Story & Reality TV Beginnings
- Laguna Beach & The Hills: Kristin shares how MTV’s open casting found her in high school (06:00), the initial resistance and eventual embrace of her “tough girl” persona, and the true behind-the-scenes manipulation of early reality TV.
- Quote [Kristin, 06:30]: “I was going to high school. MTV showed up... did an open casting call. Right place, right time. It completely changed my life.”
- On Being Labeled the ‘Villain’: Kristin talks about how editing crafted her TV persona and the emotional toll it took, but also the realization, through her rewatch podcast, that all cast members were equally manipulated (13:17, 14:13).
- Quote [Kristin, 13:17]: “Laguna Beach showed one side of my personality... when that’s the only thing they’re showing, you can’t really get to know someone.”
- Parental Dynamics: Kristin opens up about her turbulent upbringing, moving frequently due to her parents’ divorce, and issues with her narcissistic father (08:11). She candidly discusses how early trauma and the absence of parental connection contributed to her rebellious streak; both host and guest bond over shared family trauma (10:52).
Astrology, Identity, & Healing
- Birth Chart Reveal: The hosts run through Kristin’s astrology chart, tying aspects of her personality (Capricorn sun, Aries moon) to her life path and TV persona (18:52–19:46).
- Quote [Bunnie, 19:46]: "Astrology really tells people who they are. It’s like a love language."
- On Breaking Dysfunctional Patterns: Kristin details her journey in healing, recognizing childhood wounds, breaking generational cycles, and the focus on self-growth into her late 30s (11:10–12:05; 28:52–29:24).
- Quote [Kristin, 11:10]: “I’m about to turn 38, and I finally feel like I’m in a good place with everything… The first half of my life was just thing after thing, but I’m hoping the second half is just fucking chill.”
Building Businesses & Uncommon James
- Entrepreneurial Drive: Kristin discusses launching Uncommon James, her motivation to create something on her own outside of reality TV, and how starring in "Very Cavallari" propelled the brand (30:01).
- Experience as Executive Producer: Being more involved behind the scenes gave Kristin closure and positive perspective on reality TV, compared to feeling powerless during "The Hills" and "Laguna Beach" (31:43).
- Quote [Kristin, 32:21]: “I was really, really happy I ended up doing it. It was such a positive way to end my reality TV career.”
Relationships & Famous Exes
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Marriage & Divorce with Jay Cutler
- Kristin describes their meeting, quick connection, and early struggles (23:18–25:25), as well as the toxicity, failed attempts at repair, and her decision to choose happiness for the sake of herself and her children (26:05–27:54).
- Quote [Kristin, 27:54]: “Ultimately I had to make a decision of taking care of myself and putting myself first, especially as a mom.”
- Discussion expands to co-parenting struggles and the reality of post-divorce family moments (43:34–44:12).
- Kristin describes their meeting, quick connection, and early struggles (23:18–25:25), as well as the toxicity, failed attempts at repair, and her decision to choose happiness for the sake of herself and her children (26:05–27:54).
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Dating Era After Divorce
- Kristin reflects on dating after the split, the freedom, and her typical pattern of jumping quickly into new relationships before truly healing (44:53–46:18).
- Wellness rituals: meditation, saunas, and oracle/tarot cards (46:23–47:11)
The Morgan Wallen Saga (49:00–53:36)
- Kristin addresses rumors and confirms she dated country star Morgan Wallen, describing him as a “true gentleman,” but noting a lack of emotional connection and the unique challenge of not feeling like she had the “upper hand.”
- Quote [Kristin, 49:43]: “Morgan’s a good guy… first date he was a true gentleman… kissed me in the rain… it was the sweetest thing…”
- Quote [Kristin, 51:40]: “Morgan was the first guy in my entire fucking life that wasn’t completely enamored with me and it really threw me.”
- A playful discussion of Morgan’s “reputation” with women and their eventual split.
The "Montana Boy" (62:03–68:21)
- Kristin dishes on her much-publicized romance with a younger (13-year gap) TikTok heartthrob, sharing how she manifested the relationship, the refreshing fun, but eventual disconnect due to an “age and life experience” gap.
- Quote [Kristin, 64:00]: “It was great… we had a real connection… it was beautiful until it wasn’t. I felt the age difference, obviously.”
- She’s open about the guilt of breaking his heart, her growth through her “dating era,” and the desire for deeper, more mature connections going forward.
New Love
- Kristin hints at a new relationship with a retired athlete (not named), expressing optimism and excitement about finding someone with “so much depth” and a mutual life stage (68:21–69:22).
Celebrity Encounters & Hollywood Drama
- On Kelly Henderson and Very Cavallari Rumors: Kristin sets the record straight about fallout with former best friend Kelly, including rumors of an affair with Jay and a painful lack of accountability (36:37–41:41).
- Quote [Kristin, 37:55]: “Accountability is so fucking huge. It’s really hard for a lot of people.”
- Shannon Ford, Post-Show Friendships, & The Kardashians
- Kristin clarifies her status with castmates (20:13), mends with Shannon, and later addresses her infamous, “not even beef but feelings-hurt” history with the Kardashians (56:07).
- Story: A false rumor of a hookup with Scott Disick (57:21), damage to her reputation, and frustration over lack of defense from the Kardashian side.
- Her take on Scott Disick's recent slide into her DMs, and why she’s wary of Hollywood’s “keep your enemies closer” mentality (59:11).
- Quote [Kristin, 58:39]: “They have no regard for anyone else other than themselves.”
- Kristin clarifies her status with castmates (20:13), mends with Shannon, and later addresses her infamous, “not even beef but feelings-hurt” history with the Kardashians (56:07).
Safety, Family, and Growth
- Home Invasion Story: Kristin shares for the first time how her home was broken into while she and her son were sleeping (71:07–73:48), her terrifying encounter with the masked intruder, and her priorities for family safety.
- Perspective on Success & The Future
- How Kristin defines success now: “inner peace” and crafting her life intentionally, with freedom and on her own terms (47:24).
- Looking forward, she’s in no rush to plan every step—2025 is about letting life unfold and enjoying what she’s built (74:30).
- Quote [Kristin, 47:24]: “Success, I think, is inner peace, quite honestly—period.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On Reality TV Editing:
- "MTV fucked with me so hard... but going back and rewatching, I realized—oh no, they fucked with everyone." – Kristin (14:13)
- On Divorce & Choosing Happiness:
- “You have to take charge of your life… No growth in the victim mentality.” – Kristin (75:23)
- On Dating Morgan Wallen:
- “He kissed me in the rain… sweetest thing… but I never ‘had’ him—first time in my life.” – Kristin (49:43–52:27)
- On Friendships & Accountability:
- “If you can’t acknowledge how your actions made someone feel, I can’t do anything with that.” – Kristin (38:00)
- On Motherhood & Role-Modeling:
- “Especially now having a daughter, I want my kids to see me happy, making myself a priority.” – Kristin (27:11)
- On Breaking Patterns:
- “I ended up marrying my dad. Now I’m doing the work so I don’t repeat that pattern.” – Kristin (28:52)
- On Her "Montana Boy":
- "It was fun. It was perfect for the time. You gotta have those flings… you learn about yourself." – Kristin (64:33)
- On Celebrity Rumors & The Kardashians:
- “I have an issue when something is so not true... that’s my reputation, my name.” – Kristin (59:02)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Kristin’s Reality TV Beginnings: 06:00 – 16:00
- Parental Trauma and Healing Journey: 08:00 – 13:00; 28:52 – 29:24
- Behind-the-Scenes on Laguna Beach/Hills: 14:13 – 16:56
- Entrepreneurship and Launching Uncommon James: 30:01 – 32:21
- On Her Marriage & Split with Jay Cutler: 23:18 – 33:19, 43:34
- Morgan Wallen Romance: 49:00 – 53:36
- Kardashian/Scott Disick Story: 56:07 – 60:07
- Montana Boy "Situationship": 62:03 – 68:21
- Home Invasion Story: 71:07 – 73:48
- Defining Success & Looking Ahead: 47:24 – 48:06, 74:30 – 75:01
Tone & Atmosphere
The episode has Bunnie’s signature warmth, irreverence, and comedic frankness, with Kristin matching the openness and humor. Both lean into their tough-yet-vulnerable sides, making room for laughs, authenticity, and hard truths. The conversation flows naturally from wild personal stories and spicy gossip to real talk about boundaries and healing, offering listeners both entertainment and insight.
Find Kristin Cavallari:
- Instagram & TikTok: @kristincavallari
- Podcast: Let’s Be Honest (weekly, all platforms)
- Uncommon James: uncommonjames.com
End of Season Note:
Bunnie closes the season with gratitude for Kristin and her listeners, looking ahead to more healing, fun, and "owning your shit" in the coming year.