Martin Riese: Why Your “Healthy” Water Might Be Lying to You

Summary

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Dumb Blonde Podcast

Episode: Martin Riese: Why Your “Healthy” Water Might Be Lying to You
Host: Bunnie XO
Guest: Martin Riese, America’s First Certified Water Sommelier
Release Date: April 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the increasingly murky waters (pun intended) of bottled water, filtration, and misinformation in the U.S. Host Bunnie XO is joined by Martin Riese, America’s only certified water sommelier and a global advocate for water education and transparency. Sparked by a viral TikTok debacle around Mountain Valley spring water and internet confusion over TDS (total dissolved solids) tests and “healthy” water, this conversation debunks myths, calls out marketing gimmicks, and explores the real science and passion behind water curation.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. How the Water Viral Moment Happened

[03:47 – 05:54]

• Bunnie recounts going viral after she shared at-home water test results she didn’t really understand, leading followers to urge her to consult Martin.
• Martin describes how he discovered the video, feeling compelled to respond due to rampant misinformation.
• Both stress the value of learning, even publicly—“I think when you stop learning, you stop living.” (A, 06:13)

Quote:
“It’s not your profession, you are creating amazing, cool videos... I’m a guy who just drinks water every day.”
— Martin Riese, [05:54]

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2. Martin’s Journey: The Making of a Water Sommelier

[06:34 – 11:59]

• Martin’s fascination with water began as a child, preferring to drink tap water across Europe for taste, not just hydration.
• While working in a Michelin-star restaurant, he realized the absurdity of hundred-page wine lists but only one water option, prompting his creation of the first water menu.
• Certified as a water sommelier in 2010 in Germany, he moved to the U.S. via the O-1 “extraordinary ability" visa for his unique water expertise and later became a dual citizen.

Quote:
“We have over a thousand wines…but you’re just serving one brand of water…Why are we doing this with water?”
— Martin, [08:19]

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3. The Taste and Science of Water

[09:18 – 15:27]

• Explains how water has terroir, minerality, unique flavor profiles—just like wine.
• “We wouldn’t be here without access to clean and safe drinking water.”
• Martin describes pairing water with food (e.g., barbecue or sushi), and that taste differences are real and measurable.

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4. Dispelling Myths About Bottled Water

[17:22 – 22:27]

• The planet’s water is constant—we aren’t “running out,” but distribution is changing due to climate shifts.
• Bottled water has a far smaller environmental impact than other bottled beverages because it uses “mother nature’s juice.”
• Companies must rigorously test and are limited in spring water extraction by law.

Quote:
“Bottled water has the smallest impact on the environment from all bottled beverages.”
— Martin, [20:36]

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5. Misinformation, Marketing Gimmicks & The Drama of the Water Industry

[22:43 – 29:53]

• Many American brands (Smartwater, Dasani, Core) are just filtered or steamed and remineralized tap water, sold as “purified” and heavily marketed for high pH or electrolytes.
• TDS meters and home test strips are often unreliable and do not distinguish between healthy minerals and contaminants; their results are easily misunderstood and misused.

Quote:
“It’s literally a marketing gimmick to convince Americans to buy tap water...for $3 per pop.”
— Martin, [24:19]

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6. The TDS Controversy & Water Testing Realities

[26:50 – 31:10]

• TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) only shows conductivity—not water safety.
• EPA regulates tap water (recommends <500 TDS for public systems), FDA regulates bottled water (doesn’t restrict TDS for natural mineral water).
• At-home TDS meters and strips are mainly misleading; real testing requires a professional lab.

Quote:
“It’s kind of fun to use...but it doesn’t mean it’s good or bad.”
— Martin, [29:24]

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7. Debunking the Mountain Valley Arsenic Panic and Fearmongering

[34:13 – 37:56]

• They listen to a viral reel alleging Mountain Valley Water hides arsenic at dangerous levels; Martin debunks it:
  • Lab reports are public and available.
  • Trace arsenic detected is far below legal limits and naturally occurring.
  • Fear is being used to sell app subscriptions.

Quote:
"What he does is nothing else than fear mongering...to sell his subscriptions.”
— Martin, [37:18]

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8. The Real Science: Natural Arsenic, Radioactivity, and Legal Standards

[54:23 – 59:22]

• Many foods and spring waters contain trace arsenic—brown rice, for instance, has much more than Mountain Valley.
• The “dangerous” amounts are in the parts per billion—comparable to one drop in an Olympic swimming pool.
• The body can process and excrete small traces of naturally occurring toxins.

Quote:
“Everything is poisoning. Even an orange is super healthy, but if you just eat oranges…you will have a problem.”
— Martin, [57:32]

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9. Water Choices: Best, Worst, and the Power of Transparency

[60:00 – 68:39]

• No absolute “best” water: It depends on your taste and context—like pairing wine.
• “Least favorite”/worst: Overpriced purified waters with misleading claims or marketed with unsubstantiated health effects.
• Advocates for transparency—labels should show TDS and key minerals (like Fiji), companies should publish water reports.

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10. Water Tastings: Exploring Flavor & Minerality

[69:05 – 74:13]

• They taste Saratoga, Mountain Valley (sparkling), Soko Sani (Peru), and high-mineral waters from Georgia and Australia.
• High-TDS waters are thicker, sometimes slightly sweet or medicinal, and not ideal for daily hydration.
• Room temperature water reveals flavor best—ice dulls the palate.

Quote:
"Try to get rid of ice cubes, guys. Ice cubes is actually the poison for beverage."
— Martin, [69:50]

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11. Practical Tips & Health Questions

[74:13 – 77:17]

• High TDS doesn’t guarantee kidney stones; everyone metabolizes minerals differently—consult a doctor.
• Water softeners exchange minerals; RO (reverse osmosis) is Martin’s preferred tap treatment, but he remineralizes for taste and health.

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12. Industry Accountability, Multi-Level Marketing Scams, and What to Watch Out For

[45:04 – 68:39]

• MLM (multi-level marketing) schemes (e.g., Kangen/ionizer advocates) push overpriced filters with unfounded health claims.
• FDA forbids health claims for bottled water in the U.S.
• Problems arise when companies or influencers claim miraculous benefits or use fear to drive sales.

Quote:
"My mother's a cancer survivor—she listened to a doctor, not a water company."
— Martin, [67:07]

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13. Microplastics: The Inevitable Invader

[50:45 – 54:23]

• Microplastics are everywhere—mainly from car tires, not bottles. They can occur even in glass-bottled water (mainly from painted caps during bottling, rarely from the glass itself).
• Real solution: Tackle plastic at its source, not just through bottling choices.

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14. American Tap Water, Filtering, and Sustainability

[86:11 – 91:26]

• Tap water is most sustainable (when filtered properly—Brita only removes chlorine, not much else).
• U.S. infrastructure still contains dangerous old pipes (e.g., Flint crisis); major investments are needed to modernize.
• Always change filters regularly to avoid bacterial growth.

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15. Perrier Scandal & Brand Transparency

[91:32 – 94:38]

• Perrier was found filtering mineral water, violating EU laws—rebranded as “Masau Perrier” in the U.S., less transparent about sourcing.
• Martin calls out brands hiding info, versus those (Fiji, Mountain Valley, Saratoga) who publish lab reports and invite scrutiny.

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16. Compassion, Fact-Checking & Responsible Content

[97:09 – End]

• Both Bunnie and Martin call for humility and a willingness to learn, while warning against spreading panic or misinformation.
• Martin pledges to release his own free water info app, funded by companies, not consumers.
• End with a reminder to support each other and the importance of compassion in an era of instant online judgment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Water and Learning:
  “When you stop learning, you stop living.” — Bunnie (A), [06:13]

• On Bottled Water Industry:
  “The water business is a messed up industry in my opinion.” — Martin, [22:43]

• Calling Out Fearmongering:
  “He is fear mongering to sell his app...What is sad.” — Martin, [55:30]

• Perspective on Arsenic:
  “When you put one drop of arsenic into an Olympic swimming pool, that’s what that water has in arsenic.” — Martin, [56:46]

• On Multi-Level Marketing:
  “They are creating death…Kangen reps on TikTok say ‘No cancer will come to you.’ How insane to say that…” — Martin, [67:07]

• On Taste:
  “Try to get rid of ice cubes, guys; ice cubes is actually the poison for beverage.” — Martin, [69:50]

• On Transparency:
  “Put your water quality report on your homepage and put your key minerals and TDS on your bottle. Be transparent.” — Martin, [45:26]

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Top Timestamps

• Martin’s Early Fascination with Water: [06:48 – 08:19]
• The Problem with Home Water Testing: [26:50 – 30:14]
• Debunking the Arsenic Video: [34:13 – 37:56]
• Bunnie Reads Mountain Valley’s Official Statement: [39:59 – 41:28]
• Water Taste Testing Live: [69:05 – 74:00]
• Advice on Water Filters: [88:37 – 91:26]
• Perrier Scandal Explained: [91:32 – 94:38]
• Closing Thoughts on Compassion and Fact Checking: [97:09 – End]

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Tone & Language

The episode is lighthearted, comedic, yet deeply informative. Bunnie plays the upbeat, authentic layperson, admitting her knowledge gaps. Martin is passionate, unfiltered, and witty—“I’m just a guy who drinks water”—but drops complex science and strong opinions with clear analogies.

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Summary for the Uninitiated

If you’ve ever been confused by contradictory health fads, worried about what’s in your water, or felt manipulated by “wellness” marketing, this episode separates fact from fiction. Martin Riese explains why TDS meters are almost useless for home use, why not all bottled water is created equal, and how to look for transparency and real science over influencer fearmongering.

From arsenic and microplastics to why your $3 “purified” water might just be glorified tap—this conversation gives you tools to be a smarter, saner water consumer. And in the end, the take-home isn’t just about water; it’s about humility, fact-checking, and a little more compassion online.

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For more water wisdom (and a lot of laughs), check out the full episode or follow Martin’s upcoming free water sourcing app, Sourced.

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Transcript

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[B]

Correct?

[A]

Mr. Martin Risa.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Did I say it right?

[B]

Yeah. Perfect.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

People always think because I'm German, you pronounce Porsche. Notes Porsche. So it's the same with my last name. It's not threes, it's Reza.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

Exactly the same.

[A]

I love that. I am so happy you're here because I found you in my comments and I didn't even know who you were. Like, I had. You have never crossed my fyp. Like, I've never even seen any of your content. And when it started going viral on TikTok, people were like, you need to ask Martin. Talk to Martin. Talk to Martin. And I'm like, who's Martin? So I went over there and looked and I was like, oh, he won't come on the podcast. I didn't think you would. And then you commented on my Instagram post and we kind of, we had a little back and forth. That's correct. And. But at the same time, like, I love to be educated. I never want to spread misinformation. And what were you just saying a minute ago that as content, this is

[B]

like, first of all, thank you so much that I can be Here. And I think it showcases even online, you did a video where because you want the best for your followers, you want the best. I can see the passion. You want to spread the best to your. To your followers. Yes. And I saw that video because I've been text so many times and I almost had a heart attack. And I was like, oh, I think I need to say something. So in my very German undiplomatic way, I said like, what's up? Like, what's going on there in this video? And you said, like, you should do some research. You say I am the research. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, oh. I was like, did we just become best friends?

[B]

No. But I think what. What we're learning both, I think from this situation. Even when you disagree sometimes online, that does not mean you need to don't like the person or something like this. And you, you showcased it so beautifully to say, do you know what I want to learn? Maybe there's something I don't know was I saw in my test were like that. And I totally even understand because I will tell you why it's so confusing as well, why these tests are so misleading to the people. So I totally get it. It's not your profession, your content creator. You're creating amazing, cool videos and fun videos.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I'm a guy who just drinks water every day.

[A]

I love it. And I can't wait to get into your. Because I did a lot of research on you last night and I'm like, just fascinated by your story. But I did want to just add to what you said. I am never always right. I love to be taught stuff. I don't want to. I think when you stop learning, you stop living.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And I want to know, like, if I'm saying something wrong, correct me. I want. I want to take accountability for that. And obviously what I did was not a hundred percent right. And we'll get into that later. But let's talk a little bit more about your background because I. First of all, I've never heard of a water sommelier. I've heard of wine. Sommeliers, sure.

[B]

I like wine too. Trust me.

[A]

But I've never heard of water. And as I started reading about like your history and stuff like that, like, you. You have like a real passion for water. And how did this come about? Like, even as a child.

[B]

It started as a child. I was four or five years old and on vacation time with my parents, I was just fascinated about the different tap waters in Europe. So we were driving in the car, I was Waiting until the car stopped. We had obviously bottled water in the car, but already had the taste. Why I should drink it again. So we were waiting until the car stopping and was running to the restroom. And my parents always thought, man, he really needs to go all the time. But I didn't go to the restroom. I just wanted to drink the tap water. And my mother looked at me like, what is wrong with our son? Like, why? What's going on there? Until I told them, no, I'm doing this because I like the taste of the water. And they look at me like, the taste, it's not hydration. For me, saying, no, hydration is boring. I want to taste the water. And as a child, obviously, I had no clue why water could have different taste profiles. I had no clue. And then many Years later, in 2005, I worked in a beautiful Michelin star restaurant. So my background is hospitality. I worked in a Michelin Nostalar restaurant in Berlin, and I guess came to me and said, martin, you have over thousand different wines on your wine menu, but you're just serving one brand of water. And he didn't like the taste of that particular brand. And he asked me, what else do you have? And I looked at him and I remind myself of my childhood. And I thought, he's absolutely right. It's the restaurant business. Imagine you would go here in Nashville to a beautiful barbecue spot, and they're just serving you one sausage. That's all what they're serving. Nothing else.

[A]

Or one barbecue sauce.

[B]

Yeah. They would be like, that's a weird concept for a barbecue joint.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Or you're going to a sports bar, and the only beer they have on tap is coarse light.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You'll be like, nothing wrong about coast light. I don't want to, like, blame that cause light or something, but it would be weird. We just have one beer.

[A]

Right?

[B]

So why are we doing this with water? Water has taste due to minerality, and water is our most healthy and most important beverage. Without it, we wouldn't be here. Nobody would sit here in this beautiful room right now when we wouldn't have access to clean and safe drinking water.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

So I thought, wait a minute, I need to create a water menu. And I did this in 2005, and then the media started to pay attention of me, and they actually called me water sommelier. I didn't like the title at all in the beginning, but I thought, no, sommelier is for wine. I'm more like a water expert. But when I told people I'm a water expert, they thought I'm working for the department of water and Power.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They couldn't make the connection that I create water menus. Talk about that you actually can pair even waters to your dishes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We will go into this. And that. There's actually barbecue waters or sushi waters out there. Who pairing perfectly for your scenario and for your lifestyle.

[A]

So it's like wine almost.

[B]

It is like wine. It's exactly the same like wine, actually. And I thought, you know what? I'm running with water sommelier. It just makes easier. Everybody understands what that means. And I been actually certified as a water sommelier in 2010 by the German water trade association for mineral waters. I wrote a book about water on the German market. And then I came over here to the states in 2011 based on an O1 visa, the extraordinary ability visa. So for people who don't know, it's the hardest feature you can apply for.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So when you're an actor, you better win an Oscar and Emmy. That's your regulation for an O1. When you are a scientist, you better be a Nobel prize winner. That means when you're. When you're a sports person at ethic person, the Olympic games should be on your resume. That's what means O1. I'm the only person so far who gained an O1 for this country based on border.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

So I'm holding this O1 visa, and now I became dual citizen last year in November. I'm very proud of that. So I'm even now American as well.

[A]

I love that. And America welcomes.

[B]

I love this country.

[A]

So I'm still hung up on the fact that as a child, you were so obsessed with drinking tap water. Where do you think that came from? And what. What was it that made you so obsessed with it?

[B]

I believe that if you want to call it God or Buddha or Allah or whatever you want to call it, but I believe that every person on this planet has a special gift. Some people can paint beautiful pictures. Some people can create beautiful music. Some people have very good taste. Like a chef. You can create beautiful flavors that we have incredibly good dishes. And somehow I ended up with a good palate as well, especially for water. But I have to say I can taste a lot of other things as well. My nose is very sensitive. I can smell a lot. What is sometimes not that fun, actually, that you can smell everything? Let's say it like that. It's tough, but I can taste a lot. And it's very interesting when I then concentrate of water. I Stopped drinking hot liquor because it was too strong. Suddenly when I really, like, went into the whole passion of water as, like in the mid. My mid-20s, I cannot handle liquor anymore. I drink beer, I drink wine, but I don't drink any more hard liquor. It's too intense for me. So it's a gift. What? What? Lucky me. I. I received and. Yeah, and somehow I can actually talk about it, but it's another gift. You know it as well as a content creator. Even when you, when you have a gift, that doesn't mean you have the gift as well to show it to the world.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's a different gift as well.

[A]

No, but I. I love the way that you present yourself to the world. Night. You are very captivating. So, I mean, just when you.

[B]

My accent helps.

[A]

I love that. Well, you sound like a super villain. Like, I love it. Whenever I did not expect that voice, that accent to come out, when I first clicked on one of. And when you started talking, I was like, I love this man. Instantly was just like, okay, this is so cool.

[B]

No, I really appreciate that.

[A]

So. So you grew up, you know, tasting water and just on this mission and then you somehow got into the restaurant business, though, so. Yeah, correct.

[B]

Because I liked. I liked hospitality. My father was a sommelier as well, for wine. Okay, so the background is already there.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

He was trained and he was in the restaurant business, but then he left the restaurant business. So I never saw him actually working as a sommelier in a restaurant. I saw him working in a wine store as the sommelier to recommend all the different wines. So in my family, it was always about taste and food already. So that runs in the family. My brother is a very, very good person who loves to cook for himself. I'm not really a good cook. I'm more like, I like to wash dishes. I don't have any problems with that. My wife is very happy with me that I'm happy to wash the dishes.

[A]

That's a good man, though.

[B]

I think so too.

[A]

Happy wife, happy life.

[B]

I totally agree with you. Yes. That's the reason I have a long distance relationship with my wife. I barely see her. She lives in Alaska. I live in Los Angeles.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

She runs a beautiful resort hotel over there, the Alaska Resort in Girdwood. And she's a very smart cookie.

[A]

I believe it. I would think that you would need that, that stimulation, that mental stimulation. Yes.

[B]

And she's very, very strong woman. She used to be a professional swimmer, so she loves water as well, in a different angle. And she Was actually supposed to go to the Olympic Games in 2000, but she went to become sick and she couldn't go. But she was on that level. So it's. It's nice that we both have the connection somehow to water as well. I'm drinking it and she's swimming in it.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

So this is nice.

[A]

I love that. Just like you guys got to bond over water. Like, water has been just a theme in your life. I wonder what you were in a past life whenever you were like a dolphin or something.

[B]

We'll see. Huh.

[A]

Or like a shark or a killer. Well, you never know.

[B]

I talk just with my wife when we're talking about, like, for my life, I just talked to my wife because we're all getting old and we all have to make decisions like what you're going to do at one point when you may be passing from this planet and you need to set up what you want to do. So obviously when I going to pass hopefully before my wife, because I'm very selfish. I need my wife surrounding me. So I don't. I don't want that my wife is going first. No, no, no. So obviously she will get everything what, what I have right now in my life. But then we thought, what are we going to do when she's passing? Because we don't have children and we don't want to have children. I'm crazy enough. What my wife always says, like, no, there's no, like a mini me of Martin Reese. That would be not fun.

[A]

That's too much.

[B]

Too much energy.

[A]

I think it would be adorable.

[B]

No, I would be a very good father. But I have a lot of energy. Like, my energy runs very, very high. Maybe because I drink so much water. I don't know what it is. So we decided we want to give then the rest of the money what we own to a good cause where we're helping others to gain access to clean, safe drinking water. Because water is so important in both of our lives. And I think this is something what you should do, then it doesn't make sense to give it to friends or something. Or like, I think, like, there's other people on this planet who actually needs it way worse than we maybe needed in Los Angeles.

[A]

That's so beautiful.

[B]

So it's important.

[A]

Yeah, definitely. So take me on to you created water menus. What is a water menu? Because I've never heard of this before and I never even knew this was a profession.

[B]

Yeah. So when you see about wine, let's think about wine first. And On a wine menu, you start maybe with sparkling wines. You have champagnes, you have sparkling wines. Then you have the light Sauvignon Blancs and Rieslings, lighter white wines, and then you're going to Pinot Noirs, a little bit more stronger red wines. And then you're ending up maybe with a Bordeaux blend or Merlot, a Cabernet Sauvignon. So by wine you have a full spectrum of light wines and heavy wines. The heavies are the red wines, the light wines are the, the light Rieslings or Sauvignon Blanc. So by water, think about like all waters in the ocean. Like 97% of the water. Currently what we have on this planet is in the ocean. We have around 356 million trillion gallons of water on this planet. And we're not running out of water. A lot of people always think we're losing water. We don't. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile with a message for everyone. Paying big wireless way too much. Please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop with Mint. You can get premium wireless for just $15 a month. Of course, if you enjoy overpaying. No judgments. But that's weird. Okay, one judgment anyway. Give it a try. @mintmobile.com Switch upfront payment of $45 per

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[B]

This planet has the same amount of water since billions of years.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That's what's very important to know.

[A]

That is very important. Because they tell you something different.

[B]

Correct the problem, what the media is saying all the time, we're running out of water. They don't mislead you. But they're not 100% correct and not 100% wrong. The problem is what we are facing due to the change of the environment. What's happening right now. Because it's getting warmer and warmer on this planet. And yes, it's not just here in America. Trust me, I've been from Germany. We have the same issues over there. So it's not a political party problem. It is a world problem. That's very important to me. The thing is, in certain areas it rains too much. In other areas we barely have rain anymore. So the distribution of water is messed up now on this planet. That is the issue and that's the reason we're saying now we should save and conserve water in areas where we have not enough water. So for example, Los Angeles, it barely rains. I think the last one was in May. That's quite a while now.

[A]

That's like Vegas too.

[B]

Yeah. And we don't have any forecasts right now about rain. So maybe the next rain will hopefully in November or December. So we in Los Angeles need to understand how can we conserve water. And it starts with little things about you're brushing your teeth in the morning and stop the tap in that moment and then you're starting the tap again or what. A lot of people don't even think about it. Do you need AI for everything these days? No, because I don't need to google everything by AI because when you're using one question in AI, it takes around half liter of water. Like this water here will be wasted by one question of AI because these data centers needs water badly to chill the data centers down and they're using fresh water for that. Wow. So every question google one water bottle.

[A]

That means I got to stop talking to chat every day.

[B]

Yeah. Holy crap. It's really crazy. You can save water by that.

[A]

You would never even think that AI and water would even be intertwined.

[B]

In Great Britain right now. They put a warning up because they have a very severe drought now as well. And they said, the government' said, can you please delete all your old emails? And people are like, ha. Old emails to conserve water. Yeah. Because again, all these data, what is stored in the data hubs where they all need the water, the less they have data, the less they're using water. So please get rid of your old emails, guys, to save water.

[A]

Actually on this, that is mind blowing.

[B]

You would never think I'm me, even me. Like I'm, I'm learning every day what you already said, I'm learning every day something new. And what you said about fact checking as well in a lot of my videos, I'm saying, please even fact check me. It's very important to me. Don't think because I'm Martin Rees, I'm the authority of water does not mean I know everything. I'm learning every day and I want to learn. Because without learning, that would be a terrible planet. I think like when I'm done and I know everything, teach me.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

That Would be for me like the most terrible thing ever.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

Scenario.

[A]

Yeah. When you stop learning, I feel like you stop living.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So your passion for water and all things water is what led you to making these menus. But also writing books about this. You have one that you co authored.

[B]

It started, I realized when I created the water menu. It was first about option giving options to my guests about the whole healthiest beverage on the planet. And by the way, a lot of people will be extremely surprised when I'm saying this now because bottled water, everybody always says, oh, it's so bad for the environment. Bottled water has the smallest impact on the environment from all bottled beverages. Why is it because indirect water is the key word here. Because like a Saratoga, a mountain value aquapana, what you have there on the table, for example, Soko san, incredible good water from Peru, by the way. I'm so proud that you have it there on the table because it's really amazing. That's a fun water.

[A]

I've never had it.

[B]

No, it really is nice. I saw this, like, wow, you have Sokosani. That's like, that's for me, like very special water. So these waters doesn't need to be produced because they're literally just bottling mother Nature's juice. That's all what that is, versus an orange juice needs to reproduce because the orange comes from a tree. The tree needs water to grow the orange. Then you need to harvest the orange, then you need to press the orange. Then you maybe need to add something to it. What you want to add, or wine or beer or whatever you want to produce. Everything needs to be produced and they're using water for this. So bottled water has the small on the environment.

[A]

And you would think that because you're bottling the water, wouldn't that make it produce more? Because it has to fill what you guys take. Or it's just there's an automatic water cycle.

[B]

And here in America, the same in Europe, the strict regulations how much water you actually allowed to pour from your spring sources. Yes, there are bad companies out there, let's be honest. And I told you earlier when you, when I walked in here and you said like, oh, this company likes you. That does not mean that every water company likes me. Because I have some water companies who hate me.

[A]

I can't wait to get it because

[B]

like, it's just like I'm just putting facts on my page. And not every water company is happy about it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I'm sorry when you, when you mess up in your business, I Just call it out.

[A]

Well, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.

[B]

Sorry, there's no, there's no gray zone for me.

[A]

But the fact that you told me that there's so much drama in the water world, I'm like, I'm sat. I can't wait to hear about it.

[B]

The water business is a messed up industry in my opinion.

[A]

Why do you think that is?

[B]

It's, it starts especially in America because a person asked me today on my Insta Current. So, Martin, I'm in Great Britain and you always talk about purified water and you have it there, you have a smart water there. I see a core water. Over there you have Dazani. So this is nothing else than tap water. This is filter tap or smart water is boiled up tap. That's all what that is. Spoiled up tap water. They're collecting the steam, adding back some electrolytes. The fancy word for minerals or salts, right? That's all the same, guys, so don't be afraid. When Dazani says we're adding salt and smart water says we're adding electrolytes, it's exactly the same what they're doing. It's the same. So this marketing is very messy in America. So the companies came up with once the idea, wait a minute, it's so much cheaper to just open the tap in the factory versus finding a spring source, making sure the spring source is actually okay to use. Because not every spring sauce is healthy, not every spring sauce is actually okay to drink from. So it's just easier for them to open their tap water, filtering everything out, highly processing it, adding back some minerals in very small amounts and calling it electrolyte infused water with a high ph of 8.5 or 9.5. And you as a consumer say, that sounds great. It's pure water. This is how they're adding electrolytes. And then the ph is so important or the page just a marketing gimmick. It's literally a marketing gimmick to convince Americans to buy tap water in a plastic container for $3 per pop.

[A]

How is that legal?

[B]

It's marketing. It's all marketing. There's nothing wrong about it. I think it's wrong. But hey, like whatever floats your boat. What I'm always saying, but that's the reason I'm saying on my socials what actually the water is. And not every water company is happy that I'm actually saying what they are when I'm saying, sorry, but smart water is nothing else than highly processed, boiled up Tap water. That's what that is.

[A]

It tastes like Porta Potty.

[B]

I'm sorry. That's what that is. And it barely has any electrolytes dissolved. Barely anything.

[A]

You can taste the difference in every water that you.

[B]

Oh, yeah, 100%.

[A]

Like there's.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's amazing. And I can't wait to get into that.

[B]

And I will explain this. Why is because we came from the wine angle and you all know that, for example, a Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand tastes totally different than a Sauvignon Blanc from Napa Valley. How is that possible when it's the same grape, but it tastes differently? So it has something to do with terra. It's a French term, what we're using in the wine industry for showcasing where the soil, the mother nature is. So that wine pulls minerality from mother nature. So they have different stone layers in the Loire Valley, for example, in Chablis versus here in California. We all know this. Different stone layers, different minerality. So the grapes are growing on these different minerality. Therefore, the wine tastes differently by water. Because I said 97% of the waters in the ocean, clouds are created. They're coming over, let's say to Nashville right now. Rain is coming down very badly today, actually. What is nice to see. But everybody else didn't thought because it took me an hour to get over here. And everybody was freaking out on the freeway because it was raining. Was kind of funny. Comes down. And the minute this water. This is almost now distilled water by mother nature. Not 100% because there's still minerals in it, but almost distilled water. Now, water is a universal solvent. There is no other liquid on this planet who has more dissolving power than water. Think about this. Fascinating. So the water comes down on the rocks. And now it passes through different stone layers and will leak out minerality. And these minerals you can actually taste later on. So this is like cooking a soup without salt is tasteless. Adding a little salt, suddenly all other flavors will appear. And that is what mother Nature does for us. So therefore, a Saratoga tastes totally different than a mountain Valley Springs. Different sources, different spring sources. It can measure is by tds. You did it.

[A]

Yes. Let's explain what TDS is really quick for everybody.

[B]

TDS stands for Total Dissolved Solids. And you were actually right because you said once to me, but, Martin, it's not just about healthy minerals. It could be other thing. And you're absolutely right. TDS doesn't stand for Total Dissolved Healthy Minerals. But it doesn't stand for total dissolved poison either.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So the, the tricky part about TDS is in this country, and this is where the confusion starts again. What I even understand why everybody's so confused because there's two big agencies. Who's controlling the water industry in America? The EPA versus the fda. So the EPA controls tap water in America and they're actually saying you should not consume water higher than 500 TDS. Why they're saying this? Because the Department of Water and Power, let's imagine they're pushing out 200 tds here in Nashville. I don't know the number 100% correctly. I didn't look that up. I just. As an example, I'm using this right now. Let's say they're pushing 200 tds into the pipes here at your beautiful house. We're ending up with 600. Something happened obviously between the Department of Water and Power in your house. That means cross contamination. That could be maybe lead now or stuff we don't want to have in our water. The TDS meter will not tell you what it actually is. It will just tell you that there is something in it. In water. A TDS meter is actually nothing else. When you look at it, there's two little diets in the bottom and it looks how fast electricity goes from one point to another. And the more electrolytes are dissolved in a water or substances with metals, the faster will go this idea from 1 till 2. And therefore the TDS meter will just tell you the kind of like the conductivity of a water. That's all what that is and the number what even my TDS media shows you on yours. They're not even. They're not even close. What actually is, that's the issue. What is kind of sad, there is no really good water tasting kits. What you can use at home.

[A]

That was my next question.

[B]

It just doesn't exist, right? It doesn't exist. It's too complex. The topic water. We all think it's so simple. It's not.

[A]

So now I feel bad because I'm at home testing these waters thinking like these strips are legit. And is that just another scam?

[B]

I just, I just looked at the strips as well on Amazon because you said you ordered them on Amazon. Amazon. I looked it up like I googled a little bit. I made some research as well. Because I'm always saying as a content creator, you do research first and then you're going out. Versa Influencer is a person who actually kind of, I guess an actor for A commercial. He doesn't know what. What they're talking about. And they just. Oh, make. Make an announcement for this and this brand new. Just doing it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But actually have no clue what that is. Whereas a content creator tries to understand first the topic and then talks about it. So the TS meter, the problem is with the stripes as well. They're accurate between 29 and 65%. That means nothing. 29% accuracy. That's nothing. It's all about just making money. And I think like again, like a TDS meter, it's kind of fun to use it sometimes in your water to get like an idea what maybe the TDS is. But again, it doesn't mean it's good or bad.

[A]

Now that's the one that I used right there. So this is.

[B]

And mine looks exactly the same. It looks almost the same, except mine is not fancy. What has green, yellow and red?

[A]

Amazon.

[B]

No. And that is the problem with this thing now because it says red in your. And here it says as well. 500 TDS. So bad. That's for EPA tap water.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That has nothing to do if the water is safe or not.

[A]

So when I did that test and the Kroger water came out to be the best water as compared to Mountain Valley water, that was completely inaccurate.

[B]

It was not inaccurate. It has super low. Because it's nothing else than purified tap water.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's filtered tap. So there's nothing out there. There's no minerals anymore. Therefore the TDS will be two or three or four. And we can do the test with the Kroger water. We're putting this in with a TS of 2. Then I will add literally just sea salt and that thing will go in red.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That doesn't mean the water is now unsafe to drink. No, it's just water with electrolytes. So how create an energy drink.

[A]

How do you know if you're drinking minerals or if you're drinking cross contamination though?

[B]

Here we go. And that's the reason why there's an FDA and an epa. Because this is EPA stuff.

[A]

I have a good. Have some beef with the FDA though. I feel like they.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

Are not.

[B]

I'm for the people. I'm very. I'm actually.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But not everything is bad. What I'm always saying. We always need to look like what makes sense, what doesn't make sense. And that's reason I'm always saying as well. Especially right now in these times where we are with a. With the rise of AI and you have no clue what is fake and what is not fake anymore? Please do your research, think about it. What makes sense, what doesn't make sense for your, for yourself first and then think maybe they are onto something or maybe this is just lying. So with the fda, for example, I'm very upset with them because this stupid nutrition label on bottled water doesn't make sense at all. Like there is no fat, there's no sugar in water. Like why you even have a nutrition label on the, on the water. So what we're doing in Europe, we have a similar agency. Obviously it's called not fda, but it's called differently over there. But they are requiring that every bottled water has to put the TDS on the water on the bottle and the five key minerals that the consumer can see. Oh, TDS of 20, TDS of 500 and understands immediately what's going on. But here it's so confusing because the EPA tells me don't drink anything 500 or up. And the FDA doesn't say anything about TDS. Why they're not saying anything about it. And this is now the very important thing because I've been to many, many spring sources in my life now and I talked to many, many water producers and they're all running literary tests every day, right? They want to make sure their product is 100% safe. Imagine a lot of the comments as well under your video was, let's you imagine these companies would go crazy, they would get sued every day when they actually would give you unsafe water, right? So what, what's happening with bottled water? Let's imagine crazy number 2000 tds, they're getting the water. They're looking at the water quality report and they're saying we have 2000 TDS. Why? So they're running a full quality report in a lab. Obviously again, you cannot do it at home. Most of the water can actually have their own labs. You see them right next to the springs of their own building, there's a full lab integrated. Because they're doing this all the time, all day long. They want to make sure it's everything is safe. So they're running the quarter water quality report. And now they're saying suddenly, oh, look at this, 500 milligrams of magnesium, 100 milligrams of sodium, 250 milligrams of potassium. Yeah, sure, my water is super high. Then they're running again the report for arsenic or for other stuff lead, what you obviously don't want to have in your water. But there are regulations by the fda. How Much arsenic, for example, can be in a water. And no, it's not that they're adding arsenic to it to make your poisonous of us. It's not like what I'm always saying. It's not like a company who tries to make, let's say as an example. Again, guys, I'm not against the milk industry, so don't take me my words. But as an example, milk back in the days in Germany had maybe an expiration of two days. Now suddenly two weeks. What happened? So something. They're adding something in there, in my opinion, to make it the shelf life longer. The same with bread, the same with other things. And these chemicals, what they're adding in might be having a problem at one point. By bottled water, for example, with the acidic topic. What was your topic as well.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Which.

[A]

Let's touch base on that really quick before you get into it. Is there. The whole reason why we're here is because there was a company who supposedly tests water too that had a reel on Instagram and it said, you know, had people tagging me in it and they. Should we bring up the instrument? Should we bring up the real or no.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can you. Can you play it for us? Did you ever get to see it?

[B]

No, I never. I never saw what triggered you. I just know that you saw something

[A]

and you wanted to play it for you.

[B]

So that would be great because maybe, maybe I know already why they're doing it.

[A]

Well, what they had said was that Mountain Valley spring water has been hiding their stats and like they're testing for the past two years since I think it was primo bought them out and that they have high arsenic in the water and like over what the FDA allows. And so I was like, I don't believe this. I even left a comment. I was like, I still don't believe

[B]

it because I know the facts. It's not true.

[A]

So when I was like, I don't know if I believe this or not. I'm gonna test the water.

[B]

And I get it. Yeah, totally get it. Where you're coming from.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when you don't think about it, because for you, you're just like, I like the water. Now suddenly an influencer or somebody tells you on the Internet it's not healthy. Maybe I want to check out.

[A]

Yeah. And I get it. Far from a water sommelier. I don't know. I listen. I just drink it and pour it all over myself.

[B]

I totally get the confusion there.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I totally get it.

[A]

Yeah. Let me let you see this video. It's on Instagram. Just type in arsenic in Mountain Valley Water and it'll pop up. Or here, maybe I can send it to you. Give me two seconds

[B]

because I would

[A]

really like for you to comment on what they had to say because I think that this is where a lot of the rumors are coming from.

[B]

I have a feeling I know which video that is. It's the guy who has this app, the water app.

[A]

I'm not positive. Let me see really quick.

[B]

So we'll see.

[A]

Here he is. Yeah, it's the guy right here. Him.

[B]

Yeah, it's the guy. Yeah, it's. But let's watch it and I will debunk it. Mountain Valley Water hasn't been tested since 2023 and the company's been hiding their lab reports since then. That is until we tested their 5 gallon glass bottle option last month. Here's what we found inside. There were a total of 10 contaminants along with eight beneficial minerals detected. However, the most alarming part was arse at 40 times the recommended health guidelines, which could be carcinogenic, neurotoxic and cause reproductive issues. However, it was detected below legal limits. There was also two times the health guideline of total trihelomethanes, along with the maximum recommended amount of nitrates. The other seven contaminants, including fluoride, barium and uranium, were below health guidelines. The highest mineral detected was calcium at 58.2 milligrams per liter, along with a few others which were similar to their 2023 report, which likely suggests that they are using the same source in Arkansas. You can view the full report for yourself and other recommended waters on so so I've been tagged in many many of his videos as well. And first of all I think it's great when people trying to be more transparent, I think it's great. The idea what he has I think is actually great. The execution I have a problem with because what he does is nothing else than fear mongering on the Internet.

[A]

It sent me in panic.

[B]

This is how he sells his subscriptions.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So it's a subscription model on his app. You need to pay, I have no clue how much. And he does this on purpose to push these videos out again and again and again. But isn't that considered fear?

[A]

Isn't that considered misinformation?

[B]

Absolutely. So can he be suing what he said? I think water companies actually have a very good reason to sue him. Good. Have legal matters with him at one point and for sure it will happen at one point. Look, I'M not in the water industry. It's not my problem. Like, I'm not touching that. But I have a feeling this guy will have severe issues at one point from the water industry. There will be a pushback.

[A]

You can't do that to people.

[B]

So first of all, he said, oh, they're hiding. They're hiding their water quality products since 23. Since Primo bought them. They bought Mountain Valley in 2020. First of all, that's online. You can easily research this. So his first thing, what you already said, they are hiding their water quality report is not true. There's a quarter report on the homepage. Clearly it is from 23. I actually called Mountain Valley up when I saw the video spicing. Guys, can I, can I have a water quality one? There's like, absolutely. They sent me one and the, the measurements are totally different than this one.

[A]

Yeah. And let me interject right there before you go on. Mountain Valley actually reached out to my team and called a meeting with my team and they were more than gracious, more than sweet, and were like, look, you know, we don't have anything to hide. But what they did give us was an official statement that I'm going to read on here for you guys. Let me put my bifocals on. Hold on one second. So this is an official statement from Mountain Valley Water Bunny. I am so glad your team was willing to speak with us. As you can imagine, the safety and quality of our products are at the core of what we do. Our products are thoroughly tested in accordance with both federal and state law, and we meet all quality and safety standards, including those set by the U.S. food and Drug Administration, the International Bottled Water association, and the relevant agencies in states where our products are made and distributed. We maintain rigorous protocols grounded in science at every stage of the bottling process so that our purified and spring water brands meet our own height standards, as well as federal, state and local health and safety requirements. As a proud member of the International Bottled Water association, ibwa, we also comply with additional quality standards that exceed FDA requirements. As you know, what makes the Mountain Valley. As you know, what makes Mountain Valley, the brand, as it is known, is that it has been bottled right at the source. And the. I don't know how to say this. The Washita Mountains. I don't.

[B]

I don't want to.

[A]

Okay. Mountains since 1871. Interesting things to note. In any natural source, there are naturally occurring minerals that appear in the soil and groundwater that at various federally. Federally regulated levels are safe to consume. We regularly and rigorously test our spring water so that it meets all FDA and IBWA requirements and pride ourselves on exceeding those standards to provide healthy and safe water to all consumers. We continue to prioritize consumer safety and trust, delivering products that meet all standards of quality and compliance. As we spoke with your team about. A TDS meter is not designed to and does not measure contaminants. Its purpose is to measure all organic and inorganic substances such as minerals, salts, etc. In a liquid and will not determine whether or not a water sample is safe or healthy to drink. TDS or Total Dissolved Solids can vary in water sources leading to lower or higher TDS readings reflecting the water's natural mineral richness and flavor profile. Fun fact similar to the difference in taste between a full bodied cabaret and a light Pinot Noir. Which is exactly what you said. So thank you. Mountain Valley spring water.

[B]

It's nice to see that that company's reacting.

[A]

Yeah. And we appreciate you and we appreciate the transparency because you know, I did not mean to fear monger or send people into a panic, but just by human nature we all started freaking out.

[B]

I totally get it. I totally get it. And this is like what, what I think is great because Mount Valley actually has their water quality report clearly posted on the homepage. Trust me, other water companies trying to hide them. They're actually hiding them.

[A]

Yeah, like who. Who hides their stuff?

[B]

Dazani, for example. I even called them.

[A]

I don't think.

[B]

Can I. The water quality report? No. This is trade secret. Ising. Are you kidding me? Your water quality report is your trade secret? Come on.

[A]

What about Fiji? How's Fiji?

[B]

Fiji is very good, very transparent.

[A]

Really love that.

[B]

Very transparent. Great water for red wines.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Fiji. Fiji has a lot of silica dissolved and natural cooling mineral. Especially in the Pacific Rim area, especially in Fiji water. There are not so many brands who has such a high silica content like Fiji. And by tannin rich red wines who are like very bitter in the aftertaste. The silica makes that makes the wine super smooth. Unbelievable. You should try that out like a heavy Cabernet and then feature right next to it. You will certainly be like what the hell? What's happening to my red wine?

[A]

It's so crazy that you can manipulate your palette like that to just see the difference and stuff. Can we talk about. Okay, I don't know if I'm going to how to pronounce this, but deuterium depleted water.

[B]

Have you been pleated water? Yeah, it's for me all. There's so many different waters out there these days.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they all have different, what people saying health effects. Look, I'm not a doctor and I know I'm not going into the whole health scene. I know basic stuff. What I think it's important and I see what is a little bit more gimmicky and not gimmicky. And for me, this deuterium depleted water, the hydrogen water. What is a huge.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What is a huge thing right now as well.

[A]

My husband literally walks around because Joe Rogan talks about it's not bad to drink it.

[B]

Don't get me wrong, it will harm him. I don't think it will actually give you the benefits. There's a placebo to it. The thing is with hydrogen water, for example, they have no clue how many, how much hydrogen actually needs to be added to the water and how long the water is actually stable to have the hydrogen gas. It will disappear immediately. That maybe it has an impact on your health. Maybe they're even saying in the studies and they're saying there's so many studies been done. Yeah, they're all saying the same at the end. We actually don't know. We need more research. It was the same with alkaline water for several years ago that everybody freaked out about the high alkaline ph. I resolved what is clearly now it was a marketing gimmick because it doesn't matter what you drink or eat, it will go acidic in your body.

[A]

It's like distilled water almost. Isn't it alkaline water?

[B]

No, alkaline water can actually from nature be alkaline based on the different mineral compositions. Or you can recreate alkaline water by, by pushing it through an ionizing machine. That means you're splitting off the water molecules and there's, there's, there's acidic and alkaline ions in water and you're separating the acidic ions and you're just collecting the positive charge alkaline ions together. And then you suddenly this ionized water. There's for example, a very. What was under your comments? And that was where I'm really getting then upset because under your comment suddenly started the multilevel marketing people commenting. They're trying to trick you into a multilevel marketing. So some people comment, oh, this is all crap. Every bottled water is bad. I my medical water is the best water you can buy. And they're not even allowed to say medical water. Getting in serious trouble for this by their mother company. They're just doing it because it's multilevel marketing and nobody's accountable. What is the problem with multi levels?

[A]

I feel like that's the problem. Not to cut you off but I feel like that's the problem is why are these companies and people not being held accountable for what they're feeding to the mass.

[B]

I know I'm. I sometimes I'm like I'm the only guy maybe online who's actually debunking all the time.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like if somebody actually stepped in and said hey you can't say this. Hey America, you need to put the TDS and the minerals and stuff like

[B]

that on some doing it for example Fiji. Turn around the Fiji bottle they're saying it TDS and the key minerals. Look how transparent they are. Look as a big company I love this. This is the way it should be. This is the way it should be be And I'm always saying this to so many water comes when they ask me for, for my help. You think the first basic for everything what you do. Put your water quality report on your homepage and put your key minerals and the tedious on your bottle. Be transparent. This is the only thing what the consumer actually cares for. They want to be transparent. The problem obviously with the school system we talked a little bit offline over about this that not so much has been taught about water. So people came up with this idea of pure, pure, pure, pure purified water. That's a marketing gimmick again created by big corporations who just want to sell you tons of tap water because that's they have a great money making machine there. Huh?

[A]

That is all purified water. Tap water.

[B]

All purified water is tap water. So when you see purified on the bottle and I'm not even fully against purified for example when you have like a pure life water for example at Costco for like I don't know the price point but it's super cheap. I get it. The soccer mom says I just need bottled water for my kids when they're going to sport. I get it. I get it. For a cheap price. I totally get it.

[A]

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But when you're a company who suddenly bases a premium purified water and charges $3 for the bottle and creates all this marketing hype about alkaline and restructured water and all this nonsense, what I see all the time, I have a problem with that because that's misleading. That's all misleading. There's a company by ERA One. I don't know if you know ERA One. It's like a this super fancy retail or like grocery store.

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I've been there. Yeah.

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And there's one water. They're literally like saying every they're seeing hyper oxygenated. We are not a fish. I cannot gain oxygen from water. Sorry. Like, I'm like, what is that? How is that working? So hypo oxygenated restructured water, alkaline water and nano purified that it can go that you the term what they're always using it will hydrate you on the cellular level. Sounds crazy and fancy. Yeah, every water will do that because it Needs to go to my cell to get nutritions to my cell and close waste out of my cell. Every water will go on the cellular level. Please don't, don't use these marketing terms. So they have all this BS on their front label and on the back label they're saying everything what we said on the front label is not FDA approved. So please don't sue us. Pretty much it's all marketing. That's the reason why I told you this whole business is a mess. It's a huge mess. And the consumer is super confused because sure, I would be confused when I had no clue about water. And I see a TDS meet on TikTok because everybody uses it suddenly 500 years poisoning. And then. And then you have suddenly. And then you forget. Nah. But then I get it. I totally get it. And then the FDA tells you no, it's totally fine. What's up with FDA now suddenly you would think but that these are two different parts of shoes. Because it has something to do with cross contamination versus the bottle is closed at the spring source. Now they know the TDS of 2000. Nothing can happen to this bottle anymore when it's in glass. Plastic is a different game plan sometimes. But glass, best container ever.

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Okay, so can we talk about microplastics?

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Oh, absolutely.

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Now they're saying that you can. That there's microplastics and glass bottles also.

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So let's be honest, microplastic is everywhere. Everywhere. And every food you're eating in every bottle of water pretty much everywhere is microplastic. Most of the microplastic people don't know this comes from your car tires. That's the main source of microplastic.

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Wow.

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The runoffs of your tires. That is a huge problem. What we're facing. And then obviously many, many other parts because we're using just too much plastic. So to. To suddenly say, oh, what are we going to do now? Or we need to filter. We need to do this. No, we need to get rid of plastic. Guys. We need to find a new idea to. To. We need to attack the problem where it occurs. We don't need to adjust a solution. No, we need. The solution needs to be attacking where it starts a problem.

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Right?

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That's the solution here, guys.

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Right.

[B]

It's the same when my doctor tells me, Martin, you have a high cholesterol. We need to attack it now before you're getting a heart attack. We don't want a heart attack. My father just had one for five days ago. But he's safe. Everything is Great. He's happy. Everything is good. I talked to him. He saved my mother. Saved his life, I think, because she realized something is off with my father. They're both in the mid-80s, so it's great.

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But I'm happy. Dad's good, though.

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I'm so happy that my father is happy because literally on that day where you posted this, and I got all this thing, my sister called, and I was a mess mentally, obviously. And then I had to deal with all this stuff as well.

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Sorry.

[B]

That day was fun.

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I'm so sorry.

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No, no. But I'm here. Everything's good. My father's healthy. He's already at home again. And he looks great because he gets actually suddenly oxygen through his bladder anymore. Before, he didn't have so much because it was 90% off. Cut it already. By his heart, man, I'm so lucky. But then you're realizing suddenly we are all mortal.

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Yeah.

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I never. Sure, you know it's happening, but this was really, like, this first, like, warning signal for me for several days ago. He's like, oh, my God. It can happen every day. This call that you're sitting in the plane and then flying back to Germany because you need to bury your loved ones. Oh, terrible. I can't even. I don't even want to talk about.

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Dad's gonna rock it out for a long time.

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Oh, he will be great. My mother. My grandmother was 99 when she passed.

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Oh, so you guys are gonna live forever.

[B]

So he has way more. Yes, at least 30 more years.

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Yes.

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He drinks good water. He knows me good.

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So is there microplastics in glass bottles?

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So it can happen as well? Yes, absolutely. And I did this, and it looks like maybe it comes from the source. Maybe it comes actually from the. From the cap. Very.

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I've heard that. Yes, I've heard that.

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And I was really thinking, like, because I saw the study saying, how is that possible? From the cap?

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That's what I was gonna say. If it comes from the cap, is it enough to even, like, really affect.

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Yeah, it seems like. But then I looked, and then I thought, like, but how. But it seems like it's just about when they're painting something on the cap. It's not just the metal cap. It's more like the paint on the cap.

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Gotcha. And so this is.

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The paint has microplastic. And then I thought, but how is this ending up now into the water when the outside is thin? But again, I've been to several water companies, and sometimes the caps are actually mixed in One big bucket and they are floating around there. And then a machine is picking them up and puts them in little tubes. So they've been moved around the whole time. And I think that is a problem doing bottling that then microplastic maybe can be introduced. And this is like again where our water companies have to learn as well and adapt. They never thought about this and then see suddenly a study and they're saying it comes from the painting of the cup. So hopefully a lot of water companies will switch their caps to a non painting anymore. Because I don't need to have the name of the water on top of it.

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Right?

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I don't care. Yeah, let's walk. Microphysic is better for me.

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Snapple. You know like when you. There was like a little thing underneath

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whenever you don't do that anymore because obviously it's not good. Or maybe another version. Maybe you need to wash your caps before it goes actually on the bottle. Something like that. But. But that's the reason we're all learning. We're all learning together. Even the big companies are learning as well, guys. So don't be always upset immediately with a company. So for example, Mountain Valley Springs. Even when they. Because I saw the newest water quality report. Yes, there is arsenic in that water in solo amounts you barely can measure. Is ND non detectable to 1 parts per billion. Parts per billion. And again ascending is a natural cooking element. What you can find in many, many foods and in many, many waters. For example, brown rice. I looked it up. Yes, 154.

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I learned that today per billion versus

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one what is mountain Valley? So the idea that Mountain Valley is poisoning obviously is completely nonsense. Even when there is maybe what he does. He's fear. He's fear pawning.

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Fear mongering.

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He's fear mongering to sell his app. That's what he does. What is sad. I feel sad for him actually.

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So the only water that doesn't have arsenic in it would be the pure purified water or would you not have arsenic in it too?

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Because all these waters coming from different spring source and sometimes maybe that element of. Of arsenic is not in that grounds. So some waters will have zero. But again when I drink alcohol, let's be honest, I will. I will have a nice beer tonight. I'm very excited for that. It's my.

[A]

You're German.

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You're supposed to flavored water. What I call that. I have videos on this where people think what's your flavored water? Take Martin saying yeah, and then I will grab a Beer.

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What's your favorite kind of beer?

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I love Hefeweizen. So wheat beers.

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I love Heaven Weisen with orange slices in it.

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I'm a big fan of that.

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So good. Me too.

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So. So I like this one. I like these beers. But we all know, let's be honest, that that is actually poisoning alcohol. That is really bad for you. Yeah, it doesn't matter in which amount, it's just bad.

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Oh, and beer. Beer has gluten in it. Yeah.

[B]

So. So the minimalistic idea. And I looked at it like what actually this once parts per billion means. That means when you. When you put one drop of arsenic into an Olympic swimming pool, that's what that water has in arsenic.

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Wow. Okay.

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Think about this.

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Gotcha.

[B]

So. And lucky me, we all know maybe we all saw the movie War of the World. So there's this movie out from the 50s here already, the book and everything. Incredible. Good movie. So how did the aliens didn't survive on our planet because they've been exposed to our nature. In the end, that's how we actually fought them. It's not that we fought them with guns. We tried it, but we didn't worked out. No, they killed themselves by bacteria. What? We have microbacteria in our air. So it's the same with arsenic. My body can actually handle several poisonings because I have a liver. Maybe you don't have it, but I have it. I just can't talk for myself right now because I'm not a doctor.

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I think my liver's beaten and tattered, but it's still working.

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But I have a liver, and my liver can actually get rid of arsenic through my urine. So it is when people say immediately on the Internet, oh, there's poison in it. Yeah, sure. Everything is poisoning. Even an orange, a beautiful, amazing orange is super healthy. We all know this. Imagine you would just eat oranges, nothing else anymore. You will have a problem at one point on this example because I did a video about it was so hilarious to me because it fits perfectly in this team. There was a guy once on Twitter who said, bottled water is radioactive. You should not drink bottled water. So I look at this claim and there was one brand, what he said, what, like 1400 Becquerel, I think is the measurement how you. How you measure the radioactivity. So this bottled water at 1200, it sounds crazy. 1200, this is radioactive. Oh my God. Like you think it's bad. Then I looked, oh, a banana has 15,000 of that. And then I looked, how many bananas do I Have to eat to actually have an impact on my body about radioactivity. 50 million bananas.

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Oh, wow.

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It's fear mongering, guys.

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So it's like anybody could say anything. Correct? Like of course, like.

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So he's right. Yes. There is maybe arsenic in some waters. That does not mean it's unhealthy or unsafe to consume. That's the problem what I have with him. He's fear mongering to trick you in my opinion into a subscription model. And that's not cool. I don't like it at all because I'm in the middle of creating an app as well. But my app will be the totally different. It will tell you everything about the water, about the sustainability factor and it will be free for everybody. Yeah, it's very important to me because I don't believe that knowledge should be paid for.

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Right.

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I want to make this app for free for everybody. Let the water companies pay my bills that they can maybe promote a little bit on my app late on something. So I'm trying to do it this way. But I want that the consumer habits for free. And I will talk about sustainability, about the water quality report. I'm not going to fear porn because for what? It's totally fine. It's FDA approved. I know I'm not the biggest fan of fda, but we have to trust sometimes our agencies.

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Right.

[B]

And especially about bottled water because I've been in this industry since over 20 years now and really making research all the time.

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Yes.

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They're pretty good in that. Like they're safe. We don't have to worry about that.

[A]

So what if you could name off the top of your head your five favorite waters and five least favorite waters.

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Doesn' this I will tell you. So first of all, the app will be called Sourced that everybody knows it as well. And we are in beta right now. You cannot still download it, but you can go to sourced,.water.com and you can be on the waiting list.

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Yes.

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And then we will send you out.

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Sign us up memes and we will

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send you up when it's ready. And it's going to be really fun and cool. And the cool thing is you can actually use the app with your cell phone. You can scan the bottle, the barcode and then the bottle will show up so you have your personal water. So McGee Martin with you all the time in the store.

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I love that.

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That's the idea. Cool. So there is no best for me and I can tell you why.

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Okay.

[B]

Because I'm getting thirsty. I want to try Some waters as well. I bought some because with wine, when you said, so what is your favorite wine? I would say, no, like when I have sushi, I maybe want a sauvignon blanc. But for my steak or for my barbecue tonight, I wouldn't drink a sauvignon blanc. I would drink maybe a red wine. So there is good water for your lifestyle. Depends what you want to do. So, for example, Saratoga, what is a great brand here from the east coast as a TDS of 40, huh? So it's light in minerality, which, by

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the way, that's what I've been drinking, guys.

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Here we go. So that's a great water, for example. That's a great water, for example, for sushi or for light appetizers.

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I feel like it's a thicker water.

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I like the consistency.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's a good volume on that water.

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Some of my friends have said that they feel like they don't get exactly, like, quenched when they drink this. Why is it like that with some water?

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I think because it's low in minerality. So they are maybe thinking, and this is obviously effect. The more salts you're adding, the more flavor has a water, the stronger will be the flavor. And I think one of your friends maybe say, I like the more like, maybe sparkling or more like intense waters where the minerality is a little bit higher. Saratogas have a low mineral water. There's nothing wrong about low mineral waters. It's just a fact from the spring source that this water is. Has very small minerals dissolved in small amounts versus Mountain Valley is 220tds. Or the Soko San is over a thousand tds.

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I've missed you.

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Yeah. And it's a great water. I have it at home.

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I love Mountain Valley water.

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It's very good.

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Like, I literally. I've been drinking it for years. Like.

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And it was so funny when they said about Primo waters, and they freaked out of our Primo and they're hiding it and all this crazy stuff what people suddenly said. And I said, you guys know that Saratoga and Mount Valley are both owned by Primo. It comes from the same house.

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Yes.

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It's not the same source, obviously. It's totally different source.

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We learned that.

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I didn't know that it's Primo waters. They're all independent, operating pretty much for Primo is the umbrella company. They own Arrowhead, their own Poland Spring. They owned Ozarka from Texas.

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They're like a water monopoly.

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I don't want to say monopoly because there's so many other brands out there, but they are pretty big in the water industry. And they actually invited me to several of their spring sources because they want to be transparent. How beautiful is that?

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I love that.

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And they showed me, for example, I've been at Saratoga Springs and I've been at the white cedar spring source where there's. Where the silver and glass comes from in Maine up. They invited me there, they showed me everything. They showed me the beautiful wetlands, what they have. They showed me that they have the water stewards right there to measure everything that, that the wetlands are in perfect intact. It's so nice to see that big companies actually care.

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Yes.

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And I would love to see it in more companies. It's refreshing that, that feeling. And, and they are actually good people. There are people behind that who don't want to screw people. They say, no, we want to actually take care of nature. Yeah, yeah, sure. It's. It's a problematic case because some people say they're stealing water. No, they're not stealing. First of all, they have a business model with the state or with the county or whatever, something that they're stealing water somewhere. And when there's a problem that needs to be addressed and they're addressing it and I will call it out as well. When people would suddenly fuck around, pardon my English, I will call it out.

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Fuck around. No, hardly over here.

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No, no company for me has like a free jail card. It doesn't exist for me. I always question everything. I'm very always thinking about it, what they're doing, what they're not doing. But that they reached out to me and said, Martin, we really want to showcase what we're doing was a good sign.

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Right. What are some waters that you would not recommend that people would drink?

[B]

It really depends what you want to do. So when you say when your doctor told you. Again, I'm not a doctor. And it drives me nuts as well that on TikTok, suddenly everybody's a doctor and tells you what you drink and what you should not drink. When a doctor tells you, maybe you need more salts in your blood, so more electrolytes, you can go for spring waters or mineral waters. Mineral water means, comes from a spring and has to have at least 250 TDS. That's mandatory. That's a threshold. Of mineral waters, they have to have 250tds. And these are great sources for natural cooling electrolytes because they don't been artificially added. So I have a problem with the companies who are saying we're Adding electrolytes. People running to these waters, thinking they're getting now great, amazing amounts of electrolytes and they're getting barely anything. Because The Smart Waters TDS I think is around 28. It's nothing.

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Yeah.

[B]

It's barely anything in there.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And people buying it for the electrolyte level.

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Right. Thinking that it's nourishing them.

[B]

Come on.

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Somewhere.

[B]

Yeah. And it's not unhealthy. Don't get me wrong. Huh? It's not unhealthy to drink these waters. But for example, when I would go to the gym and I'm sweating a lot because I'm exercising, I would not drink that water.

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Right. Because I want something to replenish.

[B]

I want something to replenish all my electrolytes. I'm just losing. And I will go then to a water where it's more like less dissolved. Yeah. But I wouldn't bash a water. It's bad. Or you will die when you drink that water. There's again this multi level Arkan people. It's Kangen. I will say it as well because they're trying to hide the name and then by DMs, they're trying to tell you into this Kangen scheme.

[A]

Then I actually fell for that and I bought one of those machines and I just didn't, I didn't love the way the water tasted. It didn't taste $5,000. Yeah, I know. Yes, it did, but it didn't take. And this is not me bashing them, but to me it didn't taste right. There was something off about it. I didn't love it.

[B]

Yeah, it's processed tap water, let's be honest. And then, and then they're saying like no. And you, you can create all these different ph. First of all, we all learned already, I think that it's a marketing gimmick. So that's over already. The game plan, the problem with this Kenyan people doing. And this drives me so nuts about accountability because again, Mountain Valley got in hot water, pollen and heated. Right. Now let's say like this, they reach out to you and said let's, let's. Let's talk about the fact Kangen does it exactly the other way around. They're doing it all on the back alley. Yeah. No, it's like you our. Because I'm sending sometimes in the emails and saying like guys, you're telling me you're not allowed to say any health claims, but I see all your reps on TikTok all the time saying when you drink this water. You have better blood flow. You can breathe better. No. I saw a claim. No cancer will come too you how insane that is to even say that.

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Yeah, to say that.

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My mother's a cancer survivor. I'm very thankful that she had doctors surrounding her and supported her when she had breast cancer and she survived it for 25 years ago and she listened to a doctor, not a water company. Like this is. And this is then for me where it gets personal. So they are actually hiring people. That means they're creating death. Let's be honest. And then these people going on the Tiktoks and on Instagram and saying when you drink liquid death, you're gonna die. This is what they're saying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you're like what? Yeah. Because it's sparkling and sparkling is acidic water and therefore it's bad for you. Cancer can drive in your body and then you're gonna die. You think are you guys nuts? Because they are. They don't understand basic chemical structures. So for example, when they're saying oh, cancer cannot drive in an alkaline environment, they're actually right with that claim. Guess what else cannot survive in a fully alkaline environment. Your body. Because you're going to be dead. Because your body is different. Ph. It's not just one. And that is a problem how they're like trying to under the radar mingling around and trying to scare people to tell and making crazy claims about water brands. What is absolutely not true to try to into this multi level marketing. She. And that is so sad.

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And I'm getting so.

[B]

I'm getting very upset about it. Like I don't want to be upset, but I'm getting really upset.

[A]

It is infuriating.

[B]

I hate people who are getting scammed. It drives me nuts. I don't want that Americans getting scammed. I was one of them and I don't want it. And I fight my best for it.

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We need more Martins in this world. I'm telling you because it's. You have blown my mind today with some of the facts that I had no idea about. Do you want to start trying some of these waters because.

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And I think we should. We talked about Saratoga Mountain Valley and I think like. Like let's actually taste Saratoga. And then I brought a water. What is so different? They are two still waters. Saratoga. Let's start with this and then let's go to three bays from Australia. What is really funny?

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Okay, perfect. I'm excited.

[B]

It's just like a little bit. We just need a little glass and then.

[A]

No, I'm ready.

[B]

Easy. Easy peasy.

[A]

While we're waiting to pour these, I'm going to ask you a question because my friend J Dog from Hollywood Undead actually is like really, you know, obsessed with waters and stuff too. And he wanted me to ask you.

[B]

Yeah, please.

[A]

A couple questions. So hold on, let me pull them

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up a little bit. I just need a little bit for myself.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

We're tasting water, not drinking it.

[A]

Oh, there's a difference.

[B]

Yeah. By the way, I have them on room temperature, the waters on purpose. Because when you drink room temperature water, you can actually taste everything out of the water. When you're putting an ice cube or you're chilling them super down, you barely can taste anything anymore because you're actually numbing up your taste abilities.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

Try to get rid of ice cubes, guys. Like, ice cubes is actually the poison for beverage. Wow.

[A]

You don't know what water they were using. Correct for the ice either, by the way.

[B]

I don't want to. I don't want to bash Nashville, but. Oh my God, guys, I had to go to the restroom right after I came out of the plane. I pressed. I pressed the water in the toilet and this whole wave of chlorine came into my nose.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

And I was like, oh, my God, that is intense. And then I thought, oh, maybe they have a chlorine problem here. So I went over then to the to wash my hands, obviously. And this is the first thing I'm always doing. So I'm taking both hands and then I'm putting water up to my nose. Oh, my God, it was chlorine. It was so bad.

[A]

Scary. We have a water softener you have to installed in our house.

[B]

When I saw this over there, you have to have a water softener system.

[A]

Yes. And it's crazy because my husband, the first night he used it, he's like. And I didn't tell him we got it, he's like, baby, my skin feels so slimy. And I'm like, we have a water softener now.

[B]

He's like, oh, my God. A lot of people don't know this. It's very important, not just what you're drinking, even what you're showering with.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

A shower filter is mandatory in my opinion, in this country. They're not expensive, guys. You can buy at on shower filter for like 60, 70 bucks. I have, for example, a versus mo system at my place from Delta Faucet because they're pretty cool. Because by our all, the problem is you're filling everything out, and then you don't have the minerals anymore. So a delta faucet RO system, they have a cartridge. You're plugging this into your system, and they're remineralizing the water with a TDS of around 90 to 100. I love this. And by the way, they reached out for several years ago as well when they were in the volume change and said, martin, can we do a water tasting with you? So they wanted to learn as well as a company, and I love these companies. Then they're saying, like, we want to learn.

[A]

I think it's called transparency is beautiful.

[B]

And that's great. So I'm a big fan of them.

[A]

Okay, this one.

[B]

So, Saratoga, let's taste it.

[A]

I don't. I don't like drinking out of glasses. I like to drink straight from the bottle.

[B]

So you're a bottle girl? I like.

[A]

I'm a bottle girl.

[B]

But it's a smooth water. It's not. It's not heavy. It's not salty or something because it

[A]

doesn't have so many thick, right?

[B]

Yeah. But think about the next one when you think this is thick. Okay? So this is the water. I've been on the Sec Efron show Down to Earth with Sec Efren, okay. And Anna Kendrick was sitting right next to me, and we had this tasting. We had this water on the show, and she had this water, and she's like, what the hell is going on? She could not believe. And it's your bottle. So you wanted. When you want to drink it from here, that's yours.

[A]

No, it's okay. I'll have her pour it.

[B]

No, no, I'm not taking it.

[A]

I don't want to just be swigging on your bottles.

[B]

So. So this water has a very interesting story. So it's been founded by accident by a retirement couple in Australia, a little bit southern of Melbourne. And it looks like this water is around 2,000 years old. That means the last time it was rainwater, because obviously every water is billions of years old.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I mean, like, the last time it was rain water, it was from 2000 years ago. It passes for 2000 years through stone layers and picks up so much minerality. So the TDS here is 1300. So your TDS meter would blow away. Actually, when you put your TDS meter in, that water will, I think, evaporize. Yes, by that water.

[A]

Cheers. This one is thick, but. Oh, my gosh. It's good. You guys try it.

[B]

It's crazy, huh? That is thick. It has actually a very heavy water that is thick. It has very interesting minerality after notes what I really love.

[A]

But that. So the aftertaste, what is that?

[B]

It's the minerality now.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's like loaded with 27 key minerals.

[A]

It's almost like sweet though, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's very creamy. Yeah, it's very creamy. You're absolutely right, sweetie. Creamy, yes. It's a very unique water.

[A]

I don't know if I love it or not. I would have to definitely try another sip of that.

[B]

Then let's taste the water.

[A]

What everybody was talking about the freaking mountain valley. Coming up.

[B]

Valley water.

[A]

This is my favorite.

[B]

I have the sparkling here. Let's go with the sparkling because I have another sparkling water for you that you have two carbonation levels.

[A]

Okay, gotcha.

[B]

So Mountain Valley is a still. But you have to be careful. Not that we're getting wet here with Martin with the water. So many. So I'm so European of me, huh? So I'm all over 18 here.

[A]

All right, so I'm going to ask you this question for my boy J Dog, please. He said, what TDS gives you kidney stones? A lot of confusion on that high TDS does, but at what rate?

[B]

Yeah, there is no what range. Because we all humans are different. Some people can drink a high TDS water with 2500 day in, day out and they will never have kidney stones. Stones. Others they maybe get kidney stones by a tedious of 300. There is no. It's talk to your doctor. Talk to your doctor. Do your checkups all the time. Every year you should do a checkup for yourself. And when there's a problem, you need to look. Why? Maybe it doesn't come even from food. From. From food might mean maybe it doesn't come from the water. Maybe it comes from your food, from your high diet because there's tons of minerals dissolved too what can build up to kidney stones. So it depends on you. There's. I'm so sorry. I would love always the question to have an answer sometimes. But I'm a guy. When there is no real answer, I will say it as well. I'm not faking an answer because a lot of influencers doing that as well these days. They're thinking they need to know everything and then bullshitting around. Well, it's actually not true. So this is a very, very important question, I think. But you should check it out with your doctor, with your physician and see is there a problem or not. Like my parents drinking high mel content water since Many years and they never had kidney stones. Others have.

[A]

But immediately his second question was, a lot of people assume if they get a salt softener, it's safe to drink the water after. But you're doing an ion exchange and trading one mineral for another. So you're drinking a shit ton of sodium or magnesium. And is that safe? Do you still need an RO filter?

[B]

So water softeners bringing down minerality. But he's right, it will in change with other minerals. And it really again depends obviously on you as your body, on your lifestyle, on your diet. Even if the ward is now totally fine. Or maybe you should think about narrow system when you're adding an hour system. You don't have to have a water softener anymore because you already have the nau. Now it's double that. You didn't have to do this. So I have all that was for me, my choice, my personal choice. And again, because I'm using it does not mean everybody else needs to use it. That's very important to me. That's again the big difference between influencer content creator. I can just say what I like and what I think would be for my lifestyle. Perfect. I choose RO because I liked it the most safe way. In my opinion. There's no really downsides, except your water bowl will slightly go a little bit higher because there's waste water created as well by the our system, because ours nothing else than actually a very thin membrane where water needs to pass through and then filters the bad stuff out. What we definitely don't want to have VP5 microplastics forever chemicals, all this terrible stuff. What we don't want to have in our waters. But the problem is it will fill it up as well. Cards. Magnesium, sodium, potassium. The stuff what I want to have in my water. And again, my RO has the benefit of adding back minerality. But you can do it at home as well when you don't have a fancy RO system. What I have little sea salt. Yeah, like a carrot of water. Little sea salt on top of it, and you're good to go. You created literally like a little electrolyte drink for yourself.

[A]

Awesome.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Mountain Valley Springs sparkling. So I don't think I've ever had

[A]

Mountain Valley Springs sparkling.

[B]

So this comes from a still water obviously still water source. And they're adding it like artificially to it. Okay. But I like the bubbles. The bubbles are very tiny.

[A]

Jaime, you're the sparkling water drinker, right? Okay, so listen, he is a sparkling water fiend, this guy.

[B]

It's A beautiful water with a very good. Very good soft, soft bubbles.

[A]

She said it tastes like.

[B]

Yeah, this one's gonna be fun.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

The next one you will freak out, guys.

[A]

Okay, we're gonna share.

[B]

So the next one comes from the country of Georgia.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So not the state. Georgia.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

We are talking about the country of Georgia.

[A]

I never knew there was a freaking country named Georgia.

[B]

What next to Georgia on the East. East Europe.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And this water has more electrolytes than a Gatorade.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

The TDS is 5,000.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

It's gonna make my hair stand up.

[B]

Yes. This water is crazy. Crazy is this water.

[A]

I love learning about water. Martin, you got to come back every year. This is so fun.

[B]

Absolutely. I'm happy. And when you're in la, come over. I have a beautiful house.

[A]

Yeah, I feel. Yeah, we would love to.

[B]

We have a nice. I have a nice backyard with. Yeah. A nice pool and a hot wheel pool where we can emerge ourselves in water and drink water.

[A]

This smells like straight up.

[B]

It has an irony smell.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like a metallic smell.

[A]

This smells like 5,000. It smells like monkey's blood.

[B]

Yeah, you would think.

[A]

Iodine. It smells like iodine. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, give it a sip. Oh, Lord. Oh, my goodness.

[B]

It's super salty. It's. It's very intense, the water.

[A]

So how. Okay. How somebody couldn't drink that every day.

[B]

Correct. And that brings me to a very good point. And you're absolutely right. That is not meant for hydration anymore.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This water is so intense, it has so much minerals that actually definitely, in my opinion, that would definitely be a problem at one point for your body.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When you just shove this down as

[A]

your regular water, you know what it tastes like. Have you ever put Alka Seltzer, like, in a water?

[B]

It has the same impact like Anaka Seltzer.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's a medicine water. Okay, so we have in Germany. And this is now where. Where the FDA will hate me for it. I'm saying this. And the farm industry will hate me for it. We have 60 water brands in Germany who falling under the medication law, their state approved medication. It's nothing else than bottled water.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And here the FDA forbids all the water companies to tell anything about health benefits besides water. What is crazy? Because there are waters out there, even here in America, who have a benefit besides hydration. For example, at Trader Joe's, a German brand is called Gerold Steiner 2500 TDS loaded with calcium. It has the same amount of calcium than a Glass of milk.

[A]

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[B]

it's crazy for lactose intolerant people. That is just amazing because they need calcium.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Certain waters have that from nature.

[A]

So what do you drink this for? Like if you're sick.

[B]

Corrected waters are like the waters in the spa and bath towns where people still going there to this day then treat themselves on these healing waters. It's good for digesting. For example. So this is actually when you, when you cannot go to the restroom that.

[A]

Oh, it's like a magnesium drink.

[B]

Yes. So it actually will help to. To for your digesting system. Most of these very high mineral content waters are very good for digesting. Very interesting. But this is because I cannot open because the only bottle I have. But this is for example the brand in Germany, Gerald Steiner. And that is medicine. The back label is a medicine back label. Up Frontier. There's a medication approving number printed on and even it says in the German language, do not. No, not for children under 12 years. This is bottled water.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You would think like what a bottled water needs to put a warning label in. That's not for children under 12. No, because that's his medicine. This is medicine.

[A]

So would you drink the whole bottle or is there a dose?

[B]

They're putting it down. How much you have to drink for what?

[A]

Okay, gotcha.

[B]

It's literally like, like medicine. They're telling you exactly what to do with this water.

[A]

Amazing.

[B]

So, and I think that is like again, this extreme, extreme confusion in America where everybody thinks water needs to be pure.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then they're coming with their TDS meters.

[A]

Yeah, that's me.

[B]

No, again, there's not bashing about you. Not at all. Because I totally understand where you.

[A]

No I know. I get it. I get it. I'm taking accountability.

[B]

And. And that was the issue with. With, with Americans. No wonder they're all freaking out when their TDS meter goes red.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I would freak out as well. When I didn't know. I would freak out and say, what is going on here, guys? So, no, it can be amazing, actually. Yes. When that thing goes red.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

Yeah. So when you came in, you were freaking out.

[B]

Yeah. We should drink this.

[A]

Okay. Okay. It's called Sokasani. And why do you love this so much?

[B]

It has a very cool taste profile. It's like the TDS is around 1. 1300 TDS. Is this still the sparkling version? Can you see it?

[A]

This is still nice.

[B]

Even better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because the still version has a slightly effervescent to it.

[A]

It says four times more electrolytes.

[B]

It's loaded with electron 1300 TTS. It's more than a Gatorade as well, this one.

[A]

So this you couldn't drink all the time either.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. 1300 is like. It's okay. I think like over 2, 3000. Then we're getting, like. Now it's getting, like, intense, right? 1300 like a Pellegrino. Is 900 it okay? It's peno.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not a huge Pellegrino fan,

[B]

so. Sukhosani from Peru. The fun part is that this is natural occurring bubbly. So it has super tiny bubbles.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I was.

[B]

I was like, is this sparkling the same with bomi? This was natural bubbles. So that happens when you have old volcanic reactions in the grounds. The water passes through the different stone layers will pick up. Now the. The CO2 slightly due to the magma, and now the water becomes acidic from a PH standpoint. And acidic water has more dissolving power than still water. What has a higher ph has. So therefore, the sparkling. Natural. Sparkling waters always have a higher TDS as well because they have more dissolving power. So that's the reason. 1300, 4000. This one is 2500. Like this natural cooling, sparkling waters are always super high in tds.

[A]

All right, let's give it away.

[B]

Nature.

[A]

Cheers.

[B]

Cheers.

[A]

That was shocking. I didn't hate it, though.

[B]

No, I love that water. I. Oh, I'm a big fan of Sukhasani.

[A]

It's. Yeah, it's got a little tang to it, but then after you swallow, it's okay. So you drink it. It's sparkling. You swallow it still.

[B]

Yep, yep.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's very. It's Very interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And especially after Bojumi, obviously it feels so much more approach approachable than bo. Some people love bo. They love the taste.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My wife loves high mil content waters.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's addicted to it. And I think that has something to do with with her childhood as well. Because she always been in water and trained as an Olympic swimmer. So she always needed electrolytes. So for her water for her is not just hydration. She wants the electrolytes as well. She craves for this. And that's the reason sometimes when you see and test. Oh look, tap water again one in a blind taste against bottled water. That does not mean that the tap water is actually better. That just means you've grown up on that taste profile of the tap. You think that is good water and you think suddenly that a water what you don't like from a taste perspective is suddenly bad. So it has something to do with your childhood.

[A]

Would you suggest anybody in America drink tap water out here?

[B]

We should all drink tap water because the most sustainable way. But you should filter it first. Okay, that's my suggestion. But I think I'm not against tap water at all. I'm a pro tap water person. Very important to me. But I have a feeling because the infrastructure needs to be clearly more money invested there. We have huge problems with the infrastructure in America. I think we all know that. And especially when it comes to all our pipes in this country is so big. I totally understand. It's a huge undertake for the country. So I'm not even saying they are bad. We just have the problem. We need to fix it. We saw what in Flint, Michigan happened. Yeah, but they tried to make it cheaper. They switched over to a new water source and didn't realize that the city of Detroit where they used to get the water, adding something into the water to prevent their pipes from corrosion. So they didn't do that. And after two days all the pipes were starting to get corrosive and the water was. Yes. And then there was highly lead. So there was poison. It was poison that water. Then they switch it back to their original Detroit water. But the harm was done because all the pipes were now done. So they had to change out all the pipes and they're still doing it since 11 years. They're still fixing the pipes in Flint now think you need to fix the whole country. Obviously it's a huge undertake. So we have to make sure we're putting money aside to do this. The last administration, what we had before this administration now they actually started to Invest in water infrastructure, and they put a plead on it that in 10 years, no more lead pipes are allowed to be here in America. What I think is a great step in the right direction. We need to put goals to each other. To say even 10 years sounds crazy when you think about how much work that actually is. It's not crazy, but we need to put goals together to get better water into every single household in America. Because water is a human right.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's what I'm standing for. I'm not a fancy guy who just brings fancy waters with beautiful ladies in this beautiful house here in Vegas. In. In. In Nashville. In Nashville. No. My passion actually goes for every person who don't have clean and excessive drinking water. We need to bring awareness to water, because without water, we wouldn't be here. Martin, that's what it is.

[A]

You're a blessing, and the world is lucky to have somebody like you.

[B]

I appreciate that. But I need the content creators like you to spread the words as well. And the more we are, the more power we have, the more we talk about water, the better it is for everybody. Even for our little fur animals, they need water too.

[A]

Sweet little babies.

[B]

Yeah, they need water too.

[A]

Haley has a question. Do you like the Brita water filters that you put the water into the containers and it filters it, or would you recommend a filter like on the actual. I've seen the ones on the sinks where they go through that. What do you like better?

[B]

It depends what you want to filter. Obviously, a 20 Brita filter will not filter the same way. Then a reverse osmos system for $2,000. It's. It's. Let's. Let's be honest. Like, that's a totally different game plan. It may be filter something. So the cheapest Brita filter literally just gets rid of chlorine. That's all what that is. It doesn't filter anything.

[A]

Have you seen the ones that have mold that they like?

[B]

Now, the problem is with filters, and you have a point there. The problem is when you have a filter. A filter is nothing other than a sponge. That's what a filter is. So when you don't clean your filter, you have a problem at one point that's the same. We all know. I think in our kitchen, we have all the sponges everywhere. You should actually trust them after a week. You need to get rid of them. You need to get rid of them. They are like, actually, at one point, they will give more harm than benefits to you. And that's the same with a filter system. So the. The huge. The huge problem is that you're thinking, oh, my fridge has a built in filter. I have to worry. Okay, when did you change your filter from your fridge? Never. How old is your fridge? 20 years. We have a problem. You might be drinking actually now super poisoned water every day. You need to obviously maintain the filters. At one point they're full. So my reverse is most system for example tells me when it. This is smart system. So sometimes you have to do it yourself. Sometimes you have to read the manuals. They're saying every two or every three months. It really depends what kind of filter water. So again, there's no best filter as well. Because it depends on your house what you need to get rid of. I cannot make a recommendation when I have no clue what's in your house actually for water. But a Brita filter, a cheap one is literally just for chlorine. You can even save the money there. Just put your tap water into a carrot, leave it overnight in your fridge because chlorine is a gas and the chlorine will be gone in 24 hours.

[A]

What do you think?

[B]

For free? Yeah.

[A]

Copper water. Have you heard of like the copper if you leave it in.

[B]

So copper. Copper, like silver as well is antibacterial. That means it can actually kill bacteria. What is pretty cool. That's reason in the medieval times a lot of people use copper silverware or copper cups or silver because they knew the benefits that that bacteria can kill from that. What is pretty awesome. So to drink, like when you are hiking and you bring your copper glass or something. Obviously it cannot kill everything. But the chance you get sick is lower in that kind of a vessel versus a plastic vessel. What is pretty cool.

[A]

I love that. Last but not least, I want to ask you about what is going on with the Perrier drama.

[B]

Oh my God. I have several videos on that. And there you can see as well how a Martin Lisa can actually turn to. To being a fan of a brand to be what the right and people please. I don't know if kids more okay. You know, but like that is for me it's so bad what happened there. So the problem was what came out for several years ago already that they are filtering actually their spring water. What is not allowed under the European law. Because when you have spring water, you're not to touch it. There's several regulations what you're allowed to do. For example, you can extract iron, you can add carbonation or extract carbonation. And like small little other things like micro bacteria you can kill. You can UV light it or zone it to make sure that microbacteria will be killed, that nothing will happen in the water. Because let's be honest, when you open a bottle of water and leave it in the sun for like two months, that thing is growing with 1 billion bacterias again. Saw a video about some sorry idiot guy who had a three month old Fiji bottle open on his, on his thing and said white screen. That's selling us poison. No, dummy, you had a water container open for three months. Yes. There's mycobacteria everywhere where we have. And from water comes life. That's all what that is, that's life where it's created right now. So please don't tell me that Fiji water is telling me crap. No, you had it for three months open. What's happening with your milk in three months? I mean it will walk right next to you. The milk? Yeah, like really like come on. No, so.

[A]

Or clean your damn car out. Out, bro.

[B]

Yeah. So what happening with Perry? So they found out that they actually filtering their water. What they're not allowed to do under the European law. But they charge premium as a mineral water and the term mineral water is very regulated on the European law when it says natural mineral water you cannot filter, you're not allowed to do certain things. And they did. So they found it out. They found out that they even tried to do a deal with the French government. So this whole drama is actually even in the government that they try to bullshit around there and for sure about. I have no clue obviously internally what happened there. But for sure it's all about money to try. Like come I will give you some money and then just change some laws that we can still do this, what we're doing. So now you suddenly see on the Europe, on the American market massau per year and you'll be like they just rebranded. No, no, no. It's a different source because they're not allowed to say any more. Spring water from Perrier, that's it's forbidden by law. So they had to change it to Marceau Perrier. It's a totally different water. What's in there and it not even tells you in the air. And there for example, they are untransparent. No water quality report on the homepage. I can't find anything there. I reached out to them once per email and said can you please tell me where the water is coming from? No response. So that is untransparent. What this guy said they're hiding something. Maybe he should start There.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With a water company from America who supports American jobs. Huh? Like that again, I'm getting upset.

[A]

Don't go getting dehydrated. Have you drink crazy. Don't drink it. Yes.

[B]

It drives me nuts. And I see every day, I see now crazy people talking on the Internet about crazy stuff when they have no clue about. And it's so sad because they're scaring others. And one more thing about scare tactics on my channel as well, you will see it. There was a lady doing the fires in Los Angeles, what we had in January. She was sitting in her Beverly Hills mansion. You can see her big house. She was completely remodeled. Nothing wrong with this. I have a lot of friends who are doing this. I don't have any issues with that. Whatever floats your boat, I don't care. But she goes on the Internet and says, they're poisoning us, our tap waters, pet. Because I live in Beverly Hills proper. What she said proper. 90210 proper. Like, how more self like assholey can you be, in my opinion? So she used the TDS meter. She put it into her tap water and she said, look at this, it's red. Look at this poison. Then she used distilled water. And I was like, really? She put now the tsp. Distilled water. Distilled water means obviously zero. Everything is. Filled it out. That's what distilling means. And it was green, obviously. And she's like, there you have it. So I did a deep. First of all, I called her out and I sent her a DM first. I think you have a little problem there. Like, I'm more than happy to explain what that actually is, what you did. And she's like, off. And I was like. And then I said, like, just to give the heads up, I gonna do a debunk video about you on my channel. And it will not be pretty when you're not like, please delete this video. Because literally misinformation. Because you're spreading fear to others who don't have access to water right now. This is like, it's so wrong on so many levels. And she is again, like, I don't care. You saying, here we go. A day later, that thing went viral. That video, what I created. She had to close all her social media accounts. But I feel actually bad. I don't want that. I don't want to call out people and that they have to. That they have to like shut down their socials. I don't want that.

[A]

Yeah, but you're kind of like the water Avenger. And I think that people should be open to being corrected. Yes.

[B]

Hey, maybe there is more. We should actually talk to this guy.

[A]

Why I would love to learn. And more people who are gonna make videos like that. Like you need to be okay with being corrected, especially if we're not professionals.

[B]

Because I'm learning as well. When a doctor tells me, Sally Martin, maybe you need to tweak it there because maybe you said something what is from a. From a physician standpoint, maybe 900. I want to learn. I want to learn that I can be better even. But what I say most. And I'm saying this again as well here, the podcast. Please fact check me, guys. Yes, please fact check even me. Don't take everything granted. What I said. I tried my best to do my research in all abilities, but I don't have a lab at home to run a water quality report for waters I have to rely on.

[A]

Surprise.

[B]

I'm surprised you don't because you just can't do it at home. There's so many factors what could alternate the results that you have to have professional people who are trained for that to do this actually. And that's the reason I have to always relay as well on other information. And I have to trust others. And yes, we need to trust each other because let's be honest, I flew over from Los Angeles over to Nashville today. I had to trust the airline. I had to trust the pilot that he puts me down here safely. My Uber driver was a great person. I loved her so much. She was such a fun girl. She talked to me the whole time. And I was sleeping in the back, but she talked the whole time and it was great. She had this beautiful voice where I can totally pass off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I was a little. I was a little. I was a little tired.

[A]

Poor thing. Well, she was.

[B]

She was great. And I gave her good tips and everything. And I had to rely on her that I can close my eyes and relax a little bit. And I know she won't do an accident. So we have to trust certain people. But again, be skeptic.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And when something is too good or too weird, too bad, suddenly maybe there's a background. What I said about the person, what I think is cool that he has an app, but how he's trying to sell his app is not okay, in my opinion.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He's fear mongering.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He pulls out videos about how bad everything is and everybody freaks out. And then, oh, my God, I have to pay now. I don't know how much his Subscription is. And to. To that. I know that what water is safe. I've talked to water companies where they said his results are totally different than my results I have at my company. Totally different. So I have no cloudy test tests. Maybe something's wrong with his tests, even. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know his. I don't know him. He reached out once to me and I said to me, I'm sorry, I'm not. I'm not available for you. Yeah, I'm not. I don't want to be part of your app, so I don't like the business model there.

[A]

I agree. I wouldn't want to be a part of it either. Martin, thank you so much for taking the time to sit down with us and go over everything with us and

[B]

just always here for you.

[A]

Being here and just being such a light to the world. And I'm just so excited to get to collab with you more and just watch your journey also.

[B]

Definitely. I'm doing a lot of podcasts. It's always funny. I'm doing. I'm a regular on the H3 podcast with Ethan Klein. I don't know if you know him.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

With Hill and Ethan. And it's. It's funny to be there sometimes because they have a huge team, obviously, and they're all talking to each other and. And we're always doing some fun videos together and. And I love them. I love the family. I love the fans. I love your fans as well, because some of them reached out as well and said, like, how Martin is so cool. I'm such a big fan of you. And now you're going to her podcast. My God, two. Two worlds collide suddenly. And it was so nice to see the feedback, actually, of your. Of your followers as well.

[A]

They're sweet.

[B]

And that's the reason I said as well, let's go over there. I don't care what it costs. I want to be here. I want to talk about you, because again, we need to help each other out.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

That's all what it is. And I think that's to the end. I would love to say, please, guys, help your neighbor, help your loved ones. Don't scream immediately on the Internet when you see something super bad. Let's try to scale back our voices and be a little bit more. Feel a bit more, compare, like. What is the English word for this? Like, companionship.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Compassion. Here we go. That's the word I was looking for. Be a little bit more compassion to each other because you don't know what happened in their lives, maybe. And you know what happened in my life. So maybe let's understand each other a little bit better.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then we can talk about our differences. But just screaming doesn't help anybody.

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Caps Lock never gets you anywhere.

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Let's be all American and let's help each other out. That's a strong community and that's a strong country.

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Amen. Thank you so much.

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Thank you once again.

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Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Don't Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.

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