Season 9: Best of (Part 4)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde – Season 9: Best of (Part 4)
Release Date: August 4, 2025
Host: Bunnie XO, Dumb Blonde Productions

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1. Emotional Well-being and the Moon Cake Rescue Story

[04:38] The episode kicks off with hosts Dani and Bailey sharing their recent emotional struggles, revealing that both experienced breakdowns simultaneously without initially realizing it. Dani suggests hormonal imbalances might be the culprit, especially noting the impact of GLP1 on hormones. This personal exchange sets the tone for a candid discussion about mental health.

[06:00] Transitioning to a heartwarming story, Dani recounts the rescue of their dog, Moon Cake. Raised in Las Vegas where puppy stores are ubiquitous, Dani admits not knowing about responsible breeding or rescue efforts until a pivotal moment when they discovered disturbing conditions at a local pet store. This revelation prompted immediate action to save Moon Cake and additional dogs, highlighting the importance of animal rescue and responsible pet ownership.

Notable Quote:
Dani: "I can't just leave the dog there. I can't leave more dogs there. Like, I need to get more dogs."

[10:14] The hosts delve deeper into the rescue mission, emphasizing the emotional impact of finding animals in distress and the gratification of providing them with a loving home.

2. Haunted Doll: Annabelle’s Mysterious Disappearance

[13:23] The conversation takes a spooky turn as the hosts discuss the infamous Annabelle doll from horror lore. They explore the recent news of Annabelle going missing during her "world tour," weaving in tales of her supposed demonic possession and the eerie circumstances surrounding her disappearance.

Notable Quote:
Bailey: “Annabelle is considered evil because, according to the Warrens, it was not possessed by a child spirit, but by a demon seeking to possess a human.”

[16:05] The hosts speculate about the origins of Annabelle's malevolent behavior, questioning how a doll became a vessel for evil and the implications of her absence on public safety.

3. Expert Medical Insights with Dr. Leah Cordes

[19:00] Dr. Leah Cordes joins the podcast to provide professional insights into various health issues. The segment is rich with valuable information, addressing listener questions and offering practical advice.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Diverticulitis:
  Dani: “I keep having this pain on my left side when I orgasm, when I poop, and sometimes when I pee. It might be diverticulitis.”
  Dr. Cordes explains that intermittent pain suggests inflammation that could require medical attention if it persists.

• Sleep Patterns and Aging:
  Dr. Cordes discusses how sleep needs change with age, recommending about five hours of quality sleep for adults to ensure proper REM cycles and mental resets.
  Quote: “Sleep is when you can erase everything from the day before.”

• Endometriosis:
  Addressing Shannon’s question, Dr. Cordes outlines how endometriosis causes inflammation and pain, advising on dietary changes like reducing sugar intake to mitigate symptoms.
  Quote: “Sugar is the devil.”

• H. Pylori Testing:
  Dr. Cordes emphasizes the importance of accurate testing methods, recommending stool or breath tests over blood tests to avoid false positives.

[25:28] The discussion also touches on weight management during perimenopause, highlighting the role of hormones and gentle exercise like weightlifting to maintain muscle mass and metabolic health.

Notable Quote:
Dr. Cordes: “The more muscle you have, the more calories you burn just sleeping.”

4. Special Guest: Brothers Osbourne on Mental Health and Music

[39:57] The brothers Osbourne make an appearance, sharing their journey in the music industry and their personal battles with mental health. They discuss their East Coast upbringing in Deal, Maryland, and how it influenced their blend of rock and country music.

[46:45] Jesse opens up about his struggles with anxiety and depression, detailing his time in a mental health facility and the transformative experience that led him to prioritize his well-being and creativity.

Notable Quote:
Whiz Khalifa: “You have to be willing just to go through it. It never goes away. It just gets easier.”

[53:07] The brothers emphasize the importance of destigmatizing mental health issues and the healing power of open conversations, encouraging listeners to seek help and embrace their mental health journeys.

5. Special Guest: Mike Tyson’s Journey through Mental Health and Music

[98:47] Mike Tyson joins the podcast, providing an intimate look into his own mental health struggles and passion for music. He shares how music served as an emotional outlet from a young age and his experiences with anxiety and depression.

[104:01] Tyson discusses his involvement in martial arts and fitness, explaining how disciplines like MMA and weightlifting contribute to his mental and physical well-being. He reflects on his musical influences, particularly the impact of his parents' diverse music tastes and his cousin's involvement in rap.

Notable Quote:
Mike Tyson: “Music was the soundtrack to my life.”

[112:33] The conversation shifts to Tyson’s interest in reality TV and hypothetical scenarios, blending humor with personal anecdotes. He candidly talks about his solitary emotional moments, breaking stereotypes about toughness and vulnerability.

Notable Quote:
Mike Tyson: “Something embarrassing that I do alone that no one knows about? I cry a lot.”

6. Humorous Banter and Personal Stories

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in light-hearted and humorous exchanges, sharing personal quirks and entertaining anecdotes about their lives. This segment adds a relatable and fun dimension to the podcast, balancing the more serious discussions.

Examples Include:

• Dani and Bailey’s banter about their pets and shopping habits.
• Mimicking characters and humorous takes on everyday situations.
• Sharing amusing confessions and playful interactions with guests.

Conclusion: Looking Forward

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the season and tease upcoming content, including new segments like "Meet the D Fords" and special birthday videos. They express excitement for the future while maintaining their signature blend of humor, honesty, and genuine conversation.

Notable Quote:
Bailey: “We've got crazy. So many cool things in this new season of Meet the D Fords.”

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Notable Quotes Summary:

• Dani on Sugar: “Sugar is the devil.”
• Dr. Leah Cordes on Sleep: “Sleep is when you can erase everything from the day before.”
• Whiz Khalifa on Mental Health: “You have to be willing just to go through it. It never goes away. It just gets easier.”
• Mike Tyson on Music: “Music was the soundtrack to my life.”
• Mike Tyson on Vulnerability: “Something embarrassing that I do alone that no one knows about? I cry a lot.”

This episode of Dumb Blonde masterfully intertwines personal stories, expert advice, and engaging interviews, offering listeners a rich and multifaceted experience. From heartfelt animal rescues to deep dives into mental health and humorous personal tales, Bunnie XO and her guests create a relatable and entertaining narrative that resonates with a diverse audience.

Transcript

[Dani]

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[Bailey]

We both had a breakdown the same night and didn't even know it until, like, two days after.

[Dani]

Why did you like three other people I know also couldn't sleep that day and had, like, weird vibes and I was like. I was like, maybe it's something with the moon. And then Mimi sent me a video about, like.

[Bailey]

Clouds and, you know, kinds of different stuff. Yeah. Very conspiracy theorists of me. But yeah. So same exact night. I ended up on the couch in a ball and even Olivia was like, nobody talk.

[Dani]

Mom is sleeping. I could hear her.

[Bailey]

Cuz like, I just had like the blanket up to my eyes on the couch.

[Dani]

What happened?

[Bailey]

I just had a I. And it was like a light switch.

[Dani]

No, literally, like I told you, I got depressed out of nowhere. Like, I'm talking like, very depressed. Like when I was on that live Saturday night, anytime someone asks a question, I just want to start crying.

[Bailey]

Oh, it's so weird.

[Mimi]

Weird.

[Bailey]

It's so weird. It would be the same day. Yeah, it's the 26th.

[Dani]

24Th.

[Bailey]

24Th.

[Dani]

It was Saturday.

[Bailey]

24Th.

[Dani]

I think it's time we all. Well, I know what's causing mine, but I think you guys need to get your hormones checked.

[Bailey]

I do.

[Dani]

You guys are at that age. And plus, you guys have. You Will, are you still on the GLP1? You're on the. On the hearted. Did she so bad you farted. You're on the GLP1. Yeah. So that is gonna wreck your hormones too. Or help that your hormones. You never know. So I think you need to. Is it that bad?

[Bailey]

I'm gonna.

[Dani]

You guys are the ones who wanted to bring the dog, so. And I haven't even talked about the dog or introduced her online yet. Should I. Should I just hold her up? You guys, welcome to the family. Moon cake. D. Ford. I'm her Babs. This is Bailey's dog that we saved. Should I tell the story? Bailey might not dog anymore. I know. I. Listen. I offered her to you first and you said no.

[Bailey]

She's having regret. Buyers regret. She's like, I should have done it.

[Dani]

To be this one. All right, so let me tell you guys the story behind this really quick. I know I'm going to get some hate for this, and it's okay. Growing up in Vegas, puppy stores are a staple. I never knew anything other than puppy stores.

[Bailey]

I knew puppy stores.

[Dani]

Literally. There's a puppy store. There was a puppy store on every corner. Growing up in Vegas. If you are from Vegas, you know exactly what I'm talking about. And you know, anytime I was sad, anytime I just wanted to go and find a new dog. I didn't know anything about, like, breeders or like, rescuing puppies or anything like that. We would go to pet stores. So long story short, there we were in Vegas this last time that we were out there, and we had. I had been away from Chachi and the animals and I was Just like, oh, my God, I just need to go see the puppies, and maybe if there's one that I want to bring home, then we'll get it. And to me, I'm sorry. In a way, I feel like that's rescuing puppies, too, out of a bad situation. Out of a bad situation. Yeah. Now that I know what I know about rescues and stuff like that, I also do feel like I'm rescuing an animal out of that situation. That's how we got Bussy. I literally told my husband, I'm feeling sad. I'm gonna walk into a pet store, and if they have a basset hound, I'm gonna buy the basset hound. Lo and behold, I walk into the freaking pet store. Busy's right there. And they never have bassett hounds ever.

[Bailey]

Big. His ears were huge.

[Dani]

Yeah. He was so little. And. And Bussy was the best addition to our family, and we love him so much. So anyways, I was sad. We were all in Vegas, and I was missing my animals, and I'm like, let's just go, you know, look at some puppies. So we walk in, and instantly it's all these frou frou dogs. I hate frou frou dogs. You guys know I love bulldogs. I just love an aesth pleasing animal. To me, a fruit. Fruit dog is not aesthetically pleasing at all. But I look across the the room, and I see the prettiest, like, bluish green eyes looking back at me, and, like, the just happiest little demeanor. And I walk over to her, and I'm like, what is this dog's name? And the lady goes, moon cake. And I was like, oh, my God. That is a perfect name, because we literally have crunch s'. More. And then also, I love the moon. I'm always talking about the moon. And I used to have a bulldog named Bocephus Moon, which my friend Shelby has right now. But anyways, we pull her out, and I'm playing with her, and I'm just like, oh, my God, you're the cutest thing ever. I find out she's an Aquarius, right? So I called Jay, and I'm like, babe, I think I'm gonna bring home another dog. And he's like, I need a new dog. Airplane dog. We have bus dog. I need airplane dog now. And I'm like, no, you don't get an airplane dog. I was like, but I might bring this. This dog home. And he's like, get her, get her, get her. And I'm like, okay, cool. So I'm just looking at her, and I'm just like, I don't know, man. You just don't fit the aesthetic. I just don't know if I like you like that. Like, I just really was just having an internal struggle with it, and I was just like, you know, we already have so many animals at home. We don't need to add another dog. We're trying to have a baby, you know, like, no, this is just not going to work out. Jay's on the phone. Get the fucking dog. I'm like, I'm not getting the dog.

[Bailey]

He's such a bad influence when it comes to the dog. Literally.

[Dani]

He's such a bad. He'll tell you to get the animal and then never talk to it again. Yeah, literally. So anyways, I leave the pet store. Un. You know, just sad about the whole thing. I really just wanted to, you know, bring one of the puppies home. But I was just like, you know what? I'm making the right decision, and I'm not contributing to a pet store.

[Bailey]

And, you know, but comes home and talks about it and was like, you guys, this is this dog trying to.

[Dani]

Break the habit, right? And so I come home and I talk to them, and I'm just like, I went and saw this dog, and she was the cutest thing. Like, I just was like, I felt torn about it, but I was just like, I'm putting my foot down. I'm not going to support a pet store, and whatever. So I come home and I still kind of thought about the dog a little bit, and I was just like, I wonder if she's okay. Whatever. I opened my phone up on Instagram one day, and I'm not gonna say the name of the pet store, but there's a.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

An.

[Dani]

A story, a post about a pet store in Las Vegas that is literally putting the animals in storage containers. Storage containers. And it happened to be the pet store that I saw Moon Cake at. And I was like, oh, my God, I left this dog there to die. Like, I felt so bad. I was for sure thinking, like, somebody had gotten her. Whatever. I hit Mimi and Haley, and I was like, are you guys. Can you guys believe this? And I was just like, oh, my heart was breaking. And I was like, I made the wrong decision. I made the wrong decision. I felt so bad. And I'm like, if she's there, I'm gonna get her. So I called the pet store and I'm like, hi, guys. I was in there a couple weeks ago. Is Mooncake still available? And she's like, yes, she is. And I was like, oh, my God, I want her. And I was like, but I'm in Nashville, and blah, blah, blah. So I'm, like, trying to devise a plan. Jay's going to fly one of, you know, our employees out there to pick her to pick her up. And I'm just like, I can't just leave the dog there. I can't leave more dogs there. Like, I need to get more dogs. So I'm like, tasha, do you want a puppy? And she's like, yeah, I want a puppy. So I found Tasha a puppy. This beautiful Merle cocker spaniel from the same pet store. And I called Jesse, and I'm like, hello? And she's like, hi. And I'm like, so? And I told her the whole story about the dogs, whatever. She's like, oh, my God, I'm on my way right now. And I'm like, okay, and I'll fly you out here. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, and in the meantime, if you want a dog, too, I'll get you one, too, so that we can rescue these dogs. And she's like, oh, my God, I've been wanting to get Sully a friend, and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, cool. So she literally immediately stops everything gets off her. Her live, because we know. We know Jesse loves her lives, and she's. She goes down to these pet stores, finds a wiener dog that she falls in love with. I'm like, cool, that's your dog. We. We get the cocker spaniel, and we secure Mooncake. Jesse is literally two hours in on this deal, hops on a plane with two animals, and comes straight to my door by midnight the same day. And we rescued three of the dogs. Yeah. I don't. Listen, I don't like talking about things that I don't know the whole story. I just know what I saw, and I just sprung into action because I was just like, no. Like, this is not going to happen. You know, karma will get. If that's really what's happening over there, karma will definitely get them. You can't treat animals like that. Like, what the.

[Bailey]

And it's already being brought to the light because that's how you saw it.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Bailey]

Across your feed. So someone is out there doing their due diligence to find the truth.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Bailey]

In that situation.

[Dani]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mimi]

You saved a baby.

[Bailey]

Did you guys see that Annabelle's missing?

[Dani]

Yes. Wait, what? You didn't know that? No, I knew that they moved to New Orleans plantation, and then that Burned down. And then that one, sending it to you right now. Burnt down. I. I know about those. In New Orleans, right? Someone's like, did she visit that one too? And then apparently, yeah, she's missing. How is a doll just missing?

[Bailey]

Yeah, so this explains it. Oh, you want me to send it to your tick tock?

[Dani]

Okay, we need to go to New Orleans. Not right now. Not while that is on the loose. What are you talking about? We're in the rental in the back seat, and there's. She's taking on like, Chucky for dear life. Just riding the waves of the wind with the wind in her head. No, I'm good. Not while. Let's get her contained and then maybe. Yes. I've already got enough weird spooky going on in my life. You know what I'm saying? The animal doll is missing. She was on her way to Chicago to continue her world tour and somehow has been misplaced. Listen, Lorraine tried to warn you. She said this doll should never be moved because it's extremely dangerous and could unleash evil spirits a day after she left New Orleans. Also, 10 prisoners escaped around the same time she was there. Now, the last set of her going anywhere was in Texas on the 17th, which was a couple days ago. Now, it isn't fully official that she is missing, but according to a lot of people, they don't know where she is. Arguably one of the most haunted dolls in reported history. Said to have people who have looked at her long enough get into insane car accidents and almost lose their life because they ended up seeing her in the rearview mirror. Rear view mirror.

[Bailey]

Like you just said.

[Dani]

No, thank you.

[Bailey]

Can we talk about the fact that Annabelle's on a world tour?

[Dani]

Is that a world tour or your girls tour? Like, what is happening? What is who's who's mastermind idea was behind? Like, let's take this crazy ass demonic doll on a tour to terrorize every city she goes in.

[Bailey]

And like, that building burns. Probably burned the dol.

[Dani]

Like, what?

[Bailey]

That's scary, you guys.

[Dani]

Did you see the videos that literally look like spirits leaving that plantation though? No, I didn't see that. I saw. I knew that it was burned. I didn't see the video though. But what. Where was she before she went on her world tour?

[Bailey]

Oh, I have no idea.

[Dani]

Isn't she in that one? Give it a goog. Let's find out. Because was she like, contained or was she like. She's always in this, like, glass box. Box. So her being behind a glass box keeps her from blowing up or how did she. Spirits.

[Bailey]

No, it's like, where did she live?

[Jesse]

Where does that live?

[Bailey]

Yeah, where did Annabelle live before her world tour? Where did the schedule.

[Dani]

Oh, can we book her?

[Bailey]

Yeah. No.

[Dani]

Did she come on the podcast? No.

[Bailey]

Oh, she lived in a museum in Connecticut. She was transported to New Orleans for a paranormal tour return before being returned to Connecticut.

[Dani]

So she got lost in Texas.

[Bailey]

Yeah, in transit. She's now missing.

[Dani]

Yeah. The Warren's Museum. The Warrens were the ones that were in Conjuring. Oh, those are that couple that went to the Conjuring house.

[Bailey]

No, thank you. Don't want it.

[Dani]

Which is real. What's the backstory, though? Like, why is she so possessed? Do we know? Because I've always heard about how she's so crazy and they have movies about her, right? Yeah. Why is she so possessed? Like, what made her this crazy doll? Spirit of a little girl in her or something. But it takes on. Yeah. A demon.

[Bailey]

Was the little girl, like, demon who's used to manipulate and terrorize humans.

[Dani]

Yeah, but how did she get possessed? Why? And why did they choose this doll? You know, like, there's a. Spirits don't just hop into vessel.

[Bailey]

The demon manipulates the doll to appear possessed by a young girl. Tricking its owners.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Bailey]

The demon uses the doll to terrorize owners, creating a climate of fear. The demon tricks its owners.

[Dani]

So why it's using the doll?

[Bailey]

Why the rag doll, though?

[Dani]

Yeah, that's what I'm not understanding. Well, it was from a long, long time ago, so that might have been the only thing, like, around. True, but that's what? That's why I hate dolls. I hate statues, dolls, gnomes, anything like that. Porcelain dolls. Bye. Yeah, I've never been a doll person.

[Bailey]

Says the Annabelle doll is considered evil because according to the Warren, it was not possessed by a child spirit, but by a demon seeking to possess a human. It was not the doll itself that was evil, but the demonic entity that.

[Dani]

Used human it as a doll, as a vessel. Wow.

[Bailey]

What does it say right underneath this, though? Because there is another part. Keep going down. Where? Right here. It says why? They say that the doll behaved strangely, and a psychic medium told the student the doll was inhabited by the spirit of a deceased girl named. Oh, so the girl was named Annabelle.

[Dani]

Okay, and was she, like, abused? Like, why is she so just ready to everybody behavior?

[Bailey]

What made the Annabelle doll evil? Click on that.

[Dani]

Yeah. Feel like we're learning a lot about Annabel.

[Bailey]

The Conjuring universe. All right, according to the Warrens, the original Annabelle doll was purchased as a gift. And soon after, strange and unsettling occurrences began, leading them to believe that it was demonic.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

We can totally keep our relationship private.

[Dani]

No. Do you want to or.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

No, no, no, I'm fine.

[Dani]

Okay.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

I don't want to, like, out YouTube.

[Dani]

No, I wanted to brag to everybody. What? Are you kidding? You put up with my all the time. Like, what?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

No, there's no.

[Dani]

I literally have a crisis every week. Oh, my God. Every week I'm like, what is happening? I have a new one. No, I have a new one I haven't even talked to you about. I freaking have, like, this pain in my left side that. This is going to get graphic. I'm sorry, but.

[Bailey]

Ky, are you recording?

[Jesse]

Yep.

[Dani]

Oh, are you okay? Okay, we can do it on. No, we can do it on the podcast because I have no shame. All right, so I was just about to tell you guys my ailment, but let me welcome my favorite human in the world, Dr. Leah Cordes. But I call her Dr. C. And this woman, I'm telling you, is just a gift from God. And I. Once you guys hear her story and actually get to, like, hear her speak today on the podcast, you guys are going to fall in love with her, so just as much as I am. Dr. C, thank you for being here.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Thank you for having me. It's so cool, dude.

[Dani]

I'm happy to have you here. You just have always had the best energy.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Thank you.

[Dani]

It's. It's amazing. So I was just going into why I love you so much, too, is because I literally call you every week with a crisis. You're. You're like my personal doctor. So anytime I have an ailment, which is every day, I literally text this woman freaking out. I'm like, do I need a CAT scan? Do I need to do this? What's happened? Like, last week, my eye. That was a crazy thing that was going on with my eye, and she healed it. It was fine. And she always is so calm. You're so calm. Like, when I call you freaking out, you're just like, no, this is how you gotta do it. Let's do this. Don't freak out. Everything's fine. So. Yeah, well, calm.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

It doesn't come easy, but it comes with time. And all of the things that you send me are super easy. It's so much better to just call me. Don't. Don't even worry about freaking out. I've seen everything at least 10 times.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

So it makes it easy.

[Dani]

Yeah. So I was just telling you about my new ailment. So while you're here, let's talk about it.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

What you got?

[Dani]

I keep having this pain on my left hand side when I orgasm, when I poop, and sometimes when I pee it, like, and I. I've googled it and they said it's diverticulitis. Okay. And I'm like, freaking out now because you know how I am. I try to fix things.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

So just at rest, it doesn't hurt.

[Dani]

No, at rest, it doesn't hurt. But if I'm pushing out or if my muscles are spasming, it hurts.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

So that means that something moving in there has to. Has to move to. So something has to move in there to irritate it, which means it's probably something that's inflamed. A ligament, a muscle. It might be a little bit of an ovarian cyst, but something is irritated in there. It could be, wow, your hip flexor can be up that high. But if it's something that comes and goes, and I tell everybody this, the bad, bad things come and stay. Oh, yeah. They're not going to come say, hi, I'll be back next week. If it's really bad, it's going to come and stay. Diverticulitis doesn't let you go.

[Dani]

Okay.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Until you do something about it. So.

[Dani]

See what I'm saying? She always calms me down.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

I would say. Yeah, I would say it's something in inflamed, and if it persists a long, long time or it gets worse or it lasts longer, it starts happening at rest. Then that's when I'd want to see you and maybe think about an ultrasound or a scan.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

But nothing is as good as somebody who knows you.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

And I think that helps it be calm. I know you. I know how healthy you are. And it's easy for me to. No, it's not that. And. But it's not that particular. It ain't.

[Dani]

She looks at my blood work, too. This woman knows the road map to my soul so well.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

It's easy to work with Dani, right?

[Dani]

Yeah. How do you and Danny know each other? Because all of you guys know Danny, who comes on the podcast. You guys absolutely love her. She is friends with Dani also. How do you guys know each other?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Well, we're colleagues.

[Dani]

So she's a.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

An integrative nurse practitioner, and I am a doctor who did internal medicine. So I trained in the western internal medicine system and I did a two year fellowship in integrative medicine. So what that means is I can I can bring the science and the nature into whatever needs to be done to make you better. So Dani does a lot of integrative and I do a mixture of both.

[Dani]

Yes.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

So we're similar, but just a little different.

[Dani]

What about like a, like a 45 year old perimenopausal woman who can't lose the last £5?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Oh, my God.

[Dani]

She's been trying.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah, yeah. First of all, the practicing obesity medicine in 2025, I said before, is unlike anything we have ever seen. So these injections, whatever your thoughts are about them, they are potent in the gut, in the brain, and in those areas that control hunger, cravings, and satiety. We have never had a medicine that shuts off those messages. Like, like, like these do.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

There's a lot of genetics and a lot of hormones involved in, in what you crave and how much you eat and how much calories you burn. It is not calories in, calories out. So a 45 year old, and even from 40 to 50, that perimenopause, your brain starts getting messages that your ovaries, the hormones that your ovaries produce, Your brain starts getting messages about storing adipose tissue in your midsection. So as our estrogen sputters, we tend to create a little bit more fat deposits in the midsection. Have you noticed?

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

With that type of person, we would probably track macros. Keep the, the estrogen, testosterone as, as stable as possible, not over exercise. Because what we want to do is tell your body that it's safe to release those fat stores so your body will protect you by. By hanging on to them, but it's safe to release. So kind, gentle exercise. And don't poke the insulin. Bear with carbs.

[Dani]

How do you feel about weightlifting?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Because I feel amazing.

[Dani]

Yeah, because doesn't weightlifting spike insulin also, though, too?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

So weightlifting, it can do different things to different people, but the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn just sleeping.

[Dani]

Yeah. So.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

And the more muscle you have, the more muscle you will have as you get older. So by the time you're 50, you start losing 2% of muscle mass a year, unless you're doing something about it. So I feel amazing about weightlifting.

[Dani]

Right.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

And if there's an excuse why you're not doing it, get over it.

[Dani]

Yeah, yeah, do it. No, I love it. I weightlift. I weightlift five times a week now. Like, I'm on it. So I have a Patreon community that is obsessed with all things medical. Lay down, son. And we're gonna go over there and take some questions from them, if that's okay.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Let's do it.

[Dani]

Let's go. Let's do it. All right. So the first question that we have for you is from Shannon, and she said, I struggle so much with my stage four endometriosis to where I'm worried I'll not be able to continue working. Do you have any advice at this point? Would be great, as many of us women struggle with endo, and it seems no one is talking about it.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah, this is. This is. Endometriosis is an inflammatory. The what's causing pain is inflammation of these little tiny deposits. So every time a woman menstruate, has a period, the ovules should go into the fallopian tube and drop through the vagina as part of your period. In people that have endometriosis, the ovule has fallen outside so that there's little pieces of tissue that are hormone receptive, just either stuck to your colon or to your bladder somewhere. They've landed in your pelvis. Every single month. When they get the trigger from the estrogen and progesterone surges, they start swelling up and getting inflamed. So the pain from endometriosis comes from inflammation. Anything you can do, there's medicines, there's surgery, and I'm not a gyn, but anything you can do to decrease the inflammation will help with the pain. Calcium and magnesium before periods help with the inflammation of the endometriosis. And sugar is no good.

[Dani]

Yes.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Sugar is the devil. So it goes. I love it.

[Dani]

I love that devil.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

But it doesn't serve us well when it increases inflammation. So gluten is super inflammatory. Sugar is super inflammatory. Alcohol, because it's mostly. Sugars are super inflammatory. So if you wanted to try to mitigate that pain just for shits and giggles, see what happens when you decrease your sugar just maybe the two weeks before your period.

[Dani]

I haven't had sugar in two and a half years. And it's been a game changer, right, for my body. Game changer for my body and for my mental health. Yep. My anxiety used to be at a 22. My anxiety is at a 2 now. If I start having a panic attack, I can control it like it's. It's been a godsend. I don't think people realize how bad sugar just wreaks havoc on your body for sure.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Because when you don't have.

[Dani]

When you.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

When you have it a lot and you don't have it, you go into withdrawals and it feels horrible.

[Dani]

It's like a drug addiction.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Horrible, awful. But once you get through those first three days and you become a I really don't eat sugar. How long has it been since I've eaten? So I'm. I'm not at a year yet.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

But I decided, okay. Sugar is, is just not my friend. And you're totally right. My mood is a lot more steady. Things don't hurt like they used to. I can sleep so much better. Yeah.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

And sugar. Everything has sugar.

[Dani]

Let's talk about sleep for a second.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Oh yeah.

[Dani]

So I know a lot of people, like love to sleep. And I mean, as a teenager, you can sleep like the dead. As you get older, that sleep pattern changes. Why does that sleep pattern change? Why are some women waking up at 4 o' clock in the morning not being able to go back to bed until 6am 7am Again, having that broken sleep? And how can we fix that? Shopify helps you sell at every stage of your business. Like that let's put it online and see what happens.

[Whiz Khalifa]

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[Dani]

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[Whiz Khalifa]

This one's going to Thailand and that.

[Dani]

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[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Well, we were designed to be to sleep kind of in two stages. So as teenagers we would wake up a little bit and then go right back to sleep. And then as we get older, we wake up and we start thinking that plant, plant in the front, man, she's getting too much sun. And then you start going through the Rolodex. Of all the things to worry about, that's number one, is get a hold of that train that wants to take you to worrying about stuff in the middle of the night that you can't do anything about. Number one. Number two, it's a lot, a lot of it's related to hormones. And then as we age, you just don't need as much sleep. And it's related to how many cycles of rem. But.

[Dani]

So you don't need as much sleep.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

You don't need as much sleep.

[Dani]

Correct. Okay.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

That's why your grandma gets up at 4.

[Dani]

Yeah, yeah. But she's asleep by 6, right? Yeah, yeah. But is grandma still getting eight hours in though?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

No, no, her body simply doesn't need eight hours.

[Dani]

So as we get older, how much sleep do you think we need?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

About five. I like, I think the magic, and this is individual, but the magic number is five because you can go into enough REM cycles to reset your brain. And it's only during sleep that you can erase everything from the day before.

[Dani]

Wow.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Otherwise, if you're not sleeping and you're not resting, your brain remembers the car that almost hit you at the Kroger parking lot. And things that have no, no business in today are still in there. So rest especially, especially really good, deep sleep, clears your brain, prepares you for learning, and that's when you heal wounds.

[Dani]

Yeah. That's amazing way to look at it. I'm like absorbing it because that's so real.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah.

[Dani]

Because I get probably about six hours of sleep a night and I've. There's some days that I wake up at five hours and I'm like ready to rock and roll. Great. But then I tell myself, I'm like, should I get three more hours? You know, because everybody Says you need to get eight to ten hours of sleep. And I'm like, who has, first of all, who has the time? Secondly, like, yeah, sometimes I don't want to sleep eight to ten hours.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah. And if you could give yourself a gift, it's. If you, if you could give yourself the gift of sleep, give it to yourself on the front end. So go to sleep early.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Rather than staying asleep longer. Because the quality, quality stuff that heals you is at the beginning of the night.

[Dani]

Yeah. Wow. Okay. I didn't know that. And I have been trying to make myself go to sleep early, and I just can't do it. But. Okay, so here's another question from Gina. She said, do you have any home remedies for H. Pylori when antibiotics don't work?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

What a great question. So I do not. I do not. That's, that's the short answer. But H. Pylori is a bacteria. And there's a little bit of, of controversy about this, whether it's a. A bacteria that's always in your gut that doesn't cause any problems, and it lives happily with the others. But the, the general consensus in medicine is H. Pylori can cause ulcers, and those ulcers can cause gastric cancer. So in general, we want to get rid of H. Pylori. The gold standard for diagnosing H. Pylori is either a stool antigen or a breath test. If you are diagnosing H. Pylori in blood, then you're getting a false positive. Because once you've had it and you treat it, you will always have the antibodies. So if you took the medicine for H. Pylori, you eradicated it, but you're checking your blood to see if it's still there, then you're always going to be positive, but the H. Pylori is not actually there.

[Dani]

Wow.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

So before you do any home remedies, make sure that what you're, what you're seeing is not just the antibodies, because just like anybody who's ever had mono, you're going to see mono antibodies and not necessarily the mono infection.

[Dani]

So they would need to take a stool sample.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yes. A stool sample or a breath test.

[Dani]

Okay.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

And advocate for yourself.

[Dani]

Yes.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Tell your doctor, hey, I really want to know whether it's just the antibody or whether I have a reinfection.

[Dani]

I'm telling you, there's nothing more humbling than pooping in a lunch cart.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Correct. In the hot dog.

[Dani]

The hot dog container. You never just feel so humbled to just stand in a Bathroom. Holding a log.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah.

[Dani]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

There's few things.

[Dani]

Yeah. A few things. I don't. And everybody always wants to do those. And I'm like, can we not?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah.

[Dani]

I just don't. But you know what? They're necessary. So you guys, please do it. Yeah. Brandy wants to know, how do you stop perimenopause itching? I've heard this so much from women that say that. Yeah, they get, like, the worst itching.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

You mean vaginal?

[Dani]

I'm not sure. I've heard people say that. It's on their skin and their ears, like. But does it happen in the vagina, too?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Oh, my gosh.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

That's where I mostly. That's where. That's where most of the itching occurs.

[Dani]

New fear unlocked. Yeah. Holy.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

But I'm here for you.

[Dani]

Okay. Yeah. No, I'm going to be dragging my hoot on the fucking carpet like a dog.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah.

[Dani]

So it's going to be wrong.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

During perimenopause, there's so many estrogen and progesterone surges. It can. There's receptors for estrogen everywhere. Your skin, your brain, your. Your organs, and your vagina. So when your levels are sputtering, things change. So in that case, I would. And there's not a real easy way to diagnose perimenopause except to look at the constellation of symptoms, and they're super, super quiet. So you don't really know your perimenopausal until you felt crazy for two years.

[Dani]

Right. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Or one of your kids says, mom.

[Dani]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Or a Keith Sweat song doesn't hit.

[Dani]

Like it used to. Right.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

You lose patience, you lose libido, you lose motivation, and you don't really know that this is happening. So if you're itching and anything else is happening, then be on the lookout for perimenopause symptoms that you can control and go talk to somebody about it. You could do things like black Cohos you could do. You could try plant sterols that could. That could mimic. Or you could just get on a hormone.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Which we know are safe.

[Dani]

Yeah. Do you suggest HRT for women who are perimenopausal and menopausal?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

If that's right for you, if that's right for the patient, then I don't. I don't have a single solitary problem. And when I go, I want a little bit of gel.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Make sure I have some on it. Just. There's just so many receptors that estrogen is so important.

[Dani]

For I love estrogen.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

I love estrogen.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

Yeah. When I was going through my IVF stems, my body was loving the estrogen. Hated the progesterone. Loved the estrogen, though my estrogen levels were like, over, like, 1500, I think. And I was. I felt great. Yeah, I was fucking thriving.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Yeah. No itching.

[Dani]

No itching.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

No itching.

[Dani]

No itching. I don't ever have any itching. I haven't had itching yet, thank God. But, you know, listen, I've heard. I sympathize with these women who have to go through all of that. Today I have the boys on the couch. Brothers Osbourne, the brothers who have rocks country music, redefined brotherhood, and prove that being different might just be your greatest hit.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Welcome, boys. Thank you.

[Dani]

Thank you. I worked hard on that.

[Jesse]

That made me feel good.

[Dani]

I love you guys. My husband loves you guys.

[Mike Tyson]

Well, we love.

[Jesse]

We love you guys. Honestly, I feel like. I mean, you know, his career is just, like, taking off to the stratosphere, but in such short period of time. But I love that I've gotten to know you guys just a little bit before that happened. You guys haven't changed at all.

[Dani]

We appreciate you guys. And I have always been obsessed with you because of how you dress. It's so cowboy couture, and I'm just like. It's so, like, tailored and just perfect. Every time I see you, I'm like, this outfit is amazing.

[Jesse]

Thank you. That means a lot coming from you.

[Dani]

Well, I mean, where did. Where does the style, the sense of style come from? Like, is it something that you obsess about?

[Jesse]

I think it's a multi. Multiple things. One, it's probably the fact that I'm a gay man in there somewhere. Certainly doesn't hurt, right? And then, you know, we have stylists that help with this stuff. And of course, Abby is very stylish. So, you know, that's always at the last. You know, every time. Like, even I got dressed for the awards, I'm like, this jacket? This jacket?

[Dani]

Yeah. No, it's always. It's. It's amazing. Top tier, always.

[Jesse]

Even when I was a kid, I kind of love, like, wearing oddly. I mean, before I even had any clue what my sexuality was. When I look back now, I'm like, oh, my God, you were so gay. Like, I would wear, like, striped shirt, like a TGI Fridays red and white striped shirt with, like, a bow tie when I was, like, eight.

[Dani]

That's hot, though.

[Whiz Khalifa]

His choice.

[Jesse]

I love, like, have my hair comb super neat. Yeah, it's Kind of like, have you seen Righteous Gemstones?

[Dani]

Of course. I just watched the finale last night.

[Jesse]

Okay, so the latest season when there's the. What's this character? He's the little boy.

[Dani]

Yes, yes, yes, I was.

[Jesse]

That was basically me.

[Dani]

No, I think that's phenomenal. Because fashion. I have. I love fashion. So even as a kid, like, I wore a plaids. A red plaid skirt, and I rode the Bullet Gillies T shirt all the time, and you couldn't tell me any different, but I. Oh. But even when I think back to it now, like, I wear, like, band tees and, like, plaid skirts still. And it's like, it's. Sometimes it's something you're. You're just born with, too. I know.

[Jesse]

Isn't it weird? Like, John's. Some kids. You know, he's got twins.

[Dani]

The twins, yeah.

[Jesse]

And to watch just one just be a boy. And the girl, you know, she just naturally, like, she couldn't even speak yet. And she showed up. I don't know if it was to Christmas or something or Thanksgiving. And she has this. She's a year and a half, and she's like, check out. Check this out. Like, she's like, this is what I want to see.

[Whiz Khalifa]

And she does, like, a turn, and she's looking at it.

[Jesse]

She's like, ah. Like, check this, badass.

[Dani]

She's got Uncle TJ's fashion sense. Yeah, I love that.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Covered in dirt and his own gunk. He's got my fashion sense.

[Dani]

Oh, boy.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah, I love.

[Dani]

Love that. So you said you had a story to tell me that I was.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah. So this is probably a year.

[Jesse]

This is on the record.

[Whiz Khalifa]

This is on the record.

[Dani]

On the record.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Year ago, year and a half ago. It was not long after we had kids, and my wife gets hit up from her management. She's an artist as well. Amazing singer, songwriter. And saying, yeah, you got asked to do your podcast, right? And she was like, okay, yeah, I don't. I'm not sure why. I don't really have any music out. But, you know, we. We've talked about, like, fertility stuff and kids, and she's like, maybe she wants to maybe go into that or whatever. Turned out it was a scam.

[Dani]

Oh, no. Yes.

[Whiz Khalifa]

And it was basically someone said, well, you have to sign on, but you have to give us, like, log into your computer so we can access it from afar. And Lucy signed on and then got kind of freaked out and was like, this doesn't seem right. And then closed the tab. Fortunately, they didn't, like Going and get all of our information, but they were seconds away from it. And she thought she was doing your podcast. Isn't that sad? I told you it was a little bit tragic.

[Jesse]

I know.

[Dani]

I hate that people. The scam shit is just getting so out of control.

[Whiz Khalifa]

It is so specific. Not only, like, I get. If you're like, if you're sitting like, you know, I'm a prince from Africa.

[Dani]

And you sit down, remember the Nigerians.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah, but this is so. This is so specific. Targeted at people, where they would go. I. They probably know that we know you guys, at least to some degree. Yeah. And I was kind of. I know I was a little pissed, but also kind of impressed about the. The move, the scam.

[Dani]

No, it. The way that they can even access people is just kind of. It's really scary.

[Jesse]

Someone was actually texting her mom, pretending to be me. But the thing. I was in the room with my mom, she's like, is that you? And I'm like, what me? He's like, are you texting me? I'm like, why would I text you? Why is that?

[Dani]

People always fall for it. I know.

[Jesse]

Well, that's like. That's the saddest part. They're often victims of that st. Which honestly, I feel like I'm pretty savvy. And there's still all the time. I'm like, is this ups?

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah, well, Lucy was really upset. She was like, I feel like such an idiot. But I'm like, look, but it came through your management. It wasn't like she got an email somewhere from a sketchy ass website.

[Jesse]

I get emails from John all the time. It's like, check out these pictures. And I'm like, my brother would never send me up.

[Whiz Khalifa]

He doesn't open any of my dick pics.

[Jesse]

What the hell?

[Mimi]

Look at these pictures.

[Dani]

I'm like, somebody's. Somebody would be trying to get a hold of those for sure.

[Jesse]

It really was him the whole time.

[Dani]

He just wanted if you responded or not. Well, tell Lucy that I'm so sorry and that we will have to revisit that for sure now that I know that she's even willing to do that.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, Absolutely. I'll tell her. That'll make her.

[Dani]

And I actually wanted to talk about you guys as IVF Journey too, on the podcast, which we'll get into it later.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Sure.

[Dani]

I want to kind of paint a picture for my viewers at home who don't know you guys kind of like, you know, your rise to fame. So if we could start you Know where you guys grew up and go from there. Tell me a little bit about your childhood and what inspired you guys.

[Jesse]

An interesting thing because, you know, for those who don't know, we're, we're east coast boys. We grew up in a little tiny water community called Deal, Maryland. And to a lot of people that do know that, they're always so surprised to hear that. They're like, how do you get into country music being from there? And we shot our music video for a song, one of our first singles called Rum in our hometown, to kind of give people a bit of a look, see into where we grew up. Because it makes total sense when you see it. And on the new music that we're working on, we've kind of are going back to visiting that again where we're having a lot of. We'll go back and short shoot videos and stuff back there in the hometown. But yeah, I mean it's, it's a very blue collar town. It's paradise. I mean, we grew up on the Chesapeake Bay.

[Dani]

How beautiful was that?

[Jesse]

It was so beautiful and an amazing place to grow up. But you know, a lot of places like that tend to be, you know, like really fancy. It was not, I mean, it was really blue collar.

[Dani]

Right.

[Jesse]

And, and so growing up around there, it was usually like, you know, people were mostly listening to rock or they listen in the country, which is pretty. I think for us to kind of have the blend of both, I think makes total sense.

[Dani]

You have been so vocal about your mental health. I feel like the year 2020 and 2021 were big years for you guys both. Like, it was almost like, I don't know if like Saturn was in you guys charts at that time.

[Jesse]

Is the Saturn like a thing you want?

[Dani]

Oh, that's daddy Saturn. You learn all the lessons and it's like if you don't learn that lesson, it comes back around and it repeats itself.

[Jesse]

So it's like the opposite of Mercury in retrograde. Because I feel like Mercury is always in retrograde.

[Dani]

Yeah, it's always doing something.

[Jesse]

Can Mercury chill out?

[Dani]

So Saturn, Mercury, just fuck off, please. Like altogether. I get so frustrated with it.

[Jesse]

So Saturn's will be okay. I'm gonna get Saturn tattoo.

[Dani]

Daddy Saturn. So I feel like you guys both had really hard years and you know the 20 in 2020-2021, you went through something with your mental health. Can we dive into that?

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah, absolutely. At the end of 2019. I've always struggled with anxiety and like I've teetered into depression here and there. But it's mostly anxiety and. I don't know, it went unchecked for a long time. I've never struggled with addiction, fortunately. You know, I drink and do some other things recreationally for fun, but I've never been addicted to it. But I am addicted to work. I'm a workaholic. I just work and work and work. And when things are getting harder for me, instead of me stopping, I'm like, no, I can work harder, and then I can work my way through it. Well, apparently you can only do that for so long. And at the end of 2019, we were on the road. We were on tour with Willie Nelson, Allison Krause, and Bonnie Raitt, who were like, I don't know, like, of our Mount Rushmore growing up. That's probably three of the four. And I. I felt nothing. I was just depressed, confused, tired. I wasn't sleeping. And then I ended up getting something called tinnitus, or tinnitus, some people call it ringing in my ears. And I still have it. Long story short, that's. I'm gonna go place with that now. But at the time, it was a perfect circle of a lot of things, and I was being tormented. Not only from my ears driving me crazy, but my mind also driving me crazy. And I wasn't sleeping. And I ended up pulling out of that tour, which is nuts to me, like, to think that I did that now. It's like, again, I would still just jump for joy if I was on that tour.

[Dani]

Peace is priceless, though.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah, it is.

[Jesse]

And it's. That is such an underrated thing. We think of all the things we want, but peace is man.

[Whiz Khalifa]

I know, but when you're. When you're in pursuit of this dream, it's a. It's hard. It's a hard one to catch, you know, it's very fleeting. It's like trying to catch your shadow. It's always right there, but you never quite get it. And you unfortunately neglect a lot of things that need attention in your life. And for me, it was mental health, and for other people, it's, you know, maybe physical health, family, and a lot. A lot of other things.

[Dani]

Is that something you struggled with as a child, too, or did it happen just to.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah, I did. I was quite, you know, very shy as a kid. When I played guitar, it was like, oh, my God, this is how I know how to speak. I know how to be myself. I had, like, an oasis, you know, And I found, like, friends that were also, like, geeky musician nerds. I'm like, oh, these are my people. But I've always struggled with it, and I still do, but I'm in a lot better place. So I ended up going. There's a place in town called On Site. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but it's very big in the music.

[Dani]

We love Miles Adcox.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Miles is amazing. Miles is one of the people I talked to before I went there. I ended up going to something called Milestones, where they send the real crazy people. That's where I went. And, you know, it was really hard. It was probably the hardest. I was there for three weeks. The first week, I was like, get me the out of here. And one day they were like, look, you're not institutionalized. Like, you can leave. And once they put the ball in my court, I was like, I knew deep down I shouldn't, and I stayed. And I told myself, okay, if I'm gonna stay, I'm going to just be at everything and raise my hand every question. I'm going to immerse myself in this. And I did. And a lot of things changed. I became. I took the curiosity part of my brain that was curious about music and guitar and all of these things and became curious about mental health and the brain and the evolution of the brain and, you know, the prefrontal cortex versus the. The. You know, the. The lower part of your brain, like the limbic system and the amygdala, all these things. Like, I had to go super nerd mode because that's what my brain likes. And it allowed me to really understand this thing that we carry around in our heads, that we have so little that's so mysterious to us. And after that, I just decided to change a lot of things in my life. And since then, I've had kids, which helps. You have to prioritize things once they pop up because, you know, they were not going to give you a choice. You have to prioritize them. And everything in my life is. It's better now than it's ever been. I still struggle, but I know what to do with it now.

[Dani]

It's amazing that you had the foresight to know, like, hey, I can't leave here because I'm not okay.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Yeah.

[Dani]

And, like, to really. A lot of people don't want to do the work. You have to get through the darkness to see the light. I preach about mental health on my podcast all the time because I suffer from severe anxiety and depression also. And ocd.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Well, not that good, but.

[Dani]

No, no, I get it. Yeah, yeah, no, I know, I know.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Well, I will say one of the things that they talked about there a of lot you said the word go, when you go through it, it's.

[Dani]

It's.

[Whiz Khalifa]

It's something that we take as like some sort of colloquialism, as if, like, oh, I'm just going through something. But if you really think about the words, think about, I'm going through it. That's the only way to go through it. You can't go above it, you can't go under it. You can't go around it. You got to go through it and. But you will come out the other side. It's going to suck, but you will come out the other side. So you have to be willing just to go through it.

[Jesse]

What do they say? If you want to get to it, you got to go through.

[Dani]

You got to go through to get to it. Go through.

[Whiz Khalifa]

And also you. The more you do it, the almost kind of the better you become at it, the less avoidant you are of it. The more you lean into it, the more inquisitive you are about yourself and your experiences, the more you're inquisitive you are about your own mental health.

[Dani]

Absolutely.

[Whiz Khalifa]

It just gets easier with time. It never goes away. It just gets easier.

[Dani]

Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree with that a hundred percent. And I preach on this podcast also that you have to do the work. It's not going to just happen overnight. Like, you have to rip that band aid off and bleed again and let it scar.

[Jesse]

It's tough as you can't see it. You know, it's like, okay, if you got a cavity or something that's like, you know, anything. If you were to cut yourself, it's like things you obviously need to go work on and take care of, that anyone would do and wouldn't think twice about it or apologize for it.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Well, the fact that it's more part of the conversation now, like, you talking about, it's massive. Anyone that has, like, a good outreach talking about it is going to help put it in the conversation and then destigmatize it.

[Jesse]

Oh, it's also part of the healing is talking about it. I mean, the same thing with like, like, I mean, get being nervous. I remember when I would go on stage and I would get nervous, I would be. I would always try to be like, I'm not nervous. But I was like, like, yeah. And it's weird how just talking about it will help. I mean, like, not trying to fight it, like, You. I'm going on stage. I'm like, damn, I'm nervous as hell right now. Like, it makes me feel bad. I don't know why that does help, but it does, because you're recognizing it.

[Dani]

Yeah. You're. You're what the mind thinks the body will follow. And, like, when you. You speak words out, it, like, registers with your mind. And. I don't know, it's just. It's crazy. The whole psychological.

[Whiz Khalifa]

And a lot of it, too, is processing. Like, if you're nervous, you know, and sitting down and clenching your hands, your body doesn't want to do that. Your body wants to kind of get up and move. That's what nerves are. It's a sympathetic nervous response. So if you're nervous and talking about it and kind of moving, that's really good for you. It's what your body wants.

[Dani]

Yeah, absolutely. I'm so happy you got the help that you needed and that you're doing so much better now.

[Whiz Khalifa]

Thank you.

[Dani]

I want to talk about your IVF journey, but next, let's talk about TJ. 2021 was a big year for you. When did you know that you were gay?

[Jesse]

When I started liking boys.

[Dani]

So, like, as a child. No, it wasn't. I thought it was funny. I thought it was funny.

[Jesse]

He's cute all right, I guess. No, me too.

[Dani]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Jesse]

Exactly. I was young. I mean, really, really young. I didn't really understand it, but, I mean, it was. It was, I would say, pretty much my whole life. I mean, one person comes into real. Oh, like, you're cute. Or I have a crush and not really knowing what that is. I mean, pretty young age. And. But for a long time, I, you know, of course, I denied it and fought it, and I was like, no way.

[Dani]

Did you deny it because you felt like you didn't have a safe space to be able to come out.

[Jesse]

Not really. It just didn't feel like me. I mean, I guess I like, you know, at the time, it was like, you know, a lot of the cliches of what being gay was. And not that there's anything wrong with any of that stuff. It just wasn't what I necessarily identified as. And mostly I just. I mean, I was just like a. I felt like a regular guy who likes doing redneck. And I was like, this isn't. This isn't how this works. And. And it just didn't fit into my life, you know, And I was like, this isn't, you know, what I want for myself. And I Just felt like the image of what I wanted myself or what I wanted for myself, like, to have children and, you know, have a family and, you know, those types of things which, you know, later in life you come to realize, you. You certainly can have those.

[Dani]

That was also programmed that as a child.

[Jesse]

100%, you know, and that's kind of the. An interesting thing is because, you know, like, you know, I was like, talking about, like, Shelly Wright, amazing artists in the 90s, had a bunch of hits, and she came out, you know, as lesbian. But she, you know, brought this interesting point of just like, you know, being groomed. Like, you know, she's like, I was groomed my whole life to be. To be straight. You know, like, no one wanted this for me. And I felt very similarly. I never really thought about it that way. And I actually, you know, I'm very fortunate because, you know, and this is why I don't really love to harp on it too much or be like, oh, my life was that. I mean, I certainly had a lot of heartbreak, but I grew up in a really good family. I mean, our parents could not have been more supportive of their children, regardless of what they did or who they were, as long as they were good people. And so I was really, really fortunate to grow up around that. So that was, like, really encouraging. And then, as you know, I came up, it was like you kind of get. Then get stuck in the narrative, and it's weird to break out of it. Like, I always kind of like, liken it to someone calling you the wrong name or something. And I'm like, I don't really want to tell you my name isn't John. That's my brother.

[Dani]

Right.

[Jesse]

But I don't want to brush your bubble because I don't make you feel bad. And then you get kind of stuck in this thing where you're like, everyone's thinking this one thing about me, and it's not even hardly about me. It's more of I'm worried about them feeling bad, and there's just so many things that are going on. But I did eventually reach a point in my life to where I was like, you know, things were good and I wasn't putting a lot of premium on my happiness. I didn't even really know what that felt like. You know, I didn't know what I was missing. And then eventually I just got to a point to where, you know, I was in a relationship that I was really happy with. I was really happy with where my life was through all the shitty stuff. Of the pandemic. It did kind of give us a minute to stop and smell the roses, you know, like, our lives are good. And I was like, is this. This is time, you know, to do this for. For me? And so I. A lot of people will come up and be like, oh, thank you for doing this for us and what you've done for the community. And that's amazing. I hope. Certainly hope it's not for nothing, right? But it was for me. It really was, because I needed it. I couldn't do it anymore.

[Dani]

Well, that has to be, like, a weight on your shoulder.

[Whiz Khalifa]

It was.

[Jesse]

I didn't really realize it, though. That was. It wasn't like, I was just unhappy. I didn't. It was a huge weight on my shoulders. I didn't realize until it was gone. I was like, holy.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

Like, I didn't even want to talk about it. Like, that when I was telling. I was like, when I come out, I just want to come out, and I want to move on.

[Dani]

Right?

[Jesse]

And then instantly, I just felt way different. I'm like, I do want to talk about. It's a huge part of me. No, like, the Sam Lansky who wrote the article that I came out with, who was one of the writers for Time magazine and an amazing person, also a gay man himself. And I was like, you know, it's like, it's not a. It's not a big deal. You know, it's just not the biggest part of me. You know, it's like, there's so many other things that define me. And very simply, he said, what if it is, though? What if it's actually, like, the biggest part of you? And I was like, I can almost cry thinking about. It was so. It was, yeah, this is a huge part of me, and I've marginalized it in myself to make myself feel better about it, but it actually is wildly huge in how I think and how I feel. Empathy that I have for other people and that have things in their lives that I don't understand, But I do understand what it was like to have to feel like you had to be someone else. Like, this is really terrible.

[Dani]

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[Mimi]

Oh, I'm happy to be here.

[Dani]

Our white trash mother is in the house. Baby, I am so excited. You have no idea.

[Mimi]

That's cool. I'm excited to be with you.

[Dani]

Oh, this has been a long time coming. We've literally been talking for. I feel. It feels like years now, right?

[Mimi]

It is you.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Because I haven't been to Hawaii in years, and I wanted to have you on over there.

[Dani]

Yep. And then I think we were like, on opposite islands or something when that happened. Yeah. I never realized how big Hawaii was until you had asked me to come on the pod and I was like, okay, yeah, we could do it. And then we looked and it was like. Like, you are on, like, a whole nother island. I was like, holy.

[Mimi]

Everybody always thinks it's a, you know. Well, they usually think it's just Maui.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

And then they think it's a bunch.

[Dani]

Of other floating places or Honolulu or.

[Mimi]

Yeah, Honolulu, right?

[Dani]

Yep.

[Mimi]

Yeah, that's. What island is that? I can't even remember.

[Dani]

Oahu.

[Mimi]

Is that Oahu? Yeah.

[Dani]

I'm not well versed in Hawaii, but I. Yeah. Is that. Is that what it is? If I'm wrong. Sorry, guys.

[Mimi]

Yeah, it's Oahu. That's where Honolulu is.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

And that's where my granddaughter was born because we had to go over to Oahu because they had a good mother child hospital there. The island I live on is the big island, which everybody who lives there just calls Hawaii. That's the island named Hawaii.

[Dani]

So is the big island Kona?

[Mimi]

No, the big island is Hawaii is Hawaii.

[Dani]

Okay.

[Mimi]

Yeah. But everybody forgets that. And they say Kona or they say the big island now, but it actually is the one that's named Hawaii.

[Dani]

Gotcha.

[Mimi]

And it's the biggest island with the least amount of people, which I love because you can drive drunk over there and you won't get no accident.

[Dani]

Are you driving drunk over there?

[Mimi]

Well, I was at the time, but I had to put an end to that because I don't see well, you know, and so there's no business to be driving drunk with just one eye.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mimi]

You know, at all. There's just no business for me to be Doing that. And I hit a few, but luckily I was not hurt.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mimi]

So I.

[Dani]

A few speed bumps.

[Mimi]

That's a joke.

[Dani]

Few speed bumps along the way. Right.

[Mimi]

Well, I jerked the car when I saw they was having the McRib back there. At McDonald's, they never give you any warning for when the McRib's coming back.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

And with my one eye there, drunk.

[Dani]

You're like a pirate. You're like a freaking drunk pirate.

[Mimi]

And I never knew. But then when I seen the McRib was back, I went, oh, you know, to get over there in line, hit a couple folk. But, you know, I did get the McRib. And then I said, God, if you get me home with no Hawaiian police, of course they're nowhere because, boy, they're always, you know, out eating and drinking. But I said, if you get me home, this is the last time I'm going to do that if you'll get me home without these people being able to identify me.

[Dani]

Isn't it?

[Mimi]

And I made it.

[Dani]

Isn't it crazy how we barter with God all the time? You know how many times I have gotten down on my knees and said, lord, if you get me out of this, I promise you I'll never do this again?

[Mimi]

You know what's funny is I'm writing a new sitcom for myself, and that's what it's about. It's about all that.

[Dani]

Really?

[Mimi]

Yeah. Because I think that's the funniest stuff in the world.

[Dani]

How.

[Mimi]

How silly we are.

[Dani]

Yeah. How.

[Mimi]

Like, about God.

[Dani]

Yeah. What are your beliefs? I would love to know, because I hear you talk a lot about, like, you know, like. Like spiritual awakenings and how. Like an alien and, you know, like, you know, you've had some psychicness that runs through your veins, and I totally relate to that. And I just wanted to know, like, what is your spirituality?

[Mimi]

I'm trying. Well, I do feel like an alien because. And I've always felt like an alien because I knew I was on a different frequency than the rest of my family because I didn't even get them. I didn't know what they were up to.

[Dani]

Same sister, same, same.

[Mimi]

I tried to figure it out always, but it was like. Like foreign. It wasn't nothing I would ever do, and it didn't make any sense to me. How come they would say one thing and then do the exact opposite thing right after?

[Dani]

And then it pisses you off because you want to call them out because they're being hypocrites.

[Mimi]

Well, I didn't think they were being hypocrites. I was just like, why would anyone do that? Especially. Why would somebody say. They'd say, like, you know, God sees everything you do, so you want to be real careful what you do because God sees it. Then the next minute, they're stealing something.

[Dani]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mimi]

I'd be like, well, you must not believe what you say.

[Dani]

Right. Right.

[Mimi]

Some of you.

[Dani]

Or practice what you preach. Right.

[Mimi]

Maybe some of you doesn't know what the other one does. So then I think, well, you know, they tell you, don't let your right hand know what your left hand's doing. So that's what they're up to, I guess. I don't know what they're doing. I always wanted to have things make sense.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mimi]

Right.

[Dani]

Well, it's. I think you and I are kind of the same person. And what's black is black. What's white is white. And we don't like the gray in between. Say what you mean and mean what you say, or don't say it at all. Come real or don't come at all. And I don't think that's a bad trait to have in a person.

[Mimi]

Well, I just remember I got hit by a car when I was 16, and the hood ornament went in my head and I got a brain concussion and a head concussion, and I was in a coma and all that stuff. And when I woke up, I had some kind of malfunction in the brain, the healing process. But one thing that happened is I couldn't lie. Because, see, I mean, not that I'm a good person. I wanted to be a liar like everybody else, but I couldn't remember the lie, you know? The next day, it was just. I had to tell the truth because I couldn't remember my lies.

[Dani]

Right. Yeah. You don't want to get caught up. Yeah. Can we?

[Mimi]

The next day, I'd make up a whole new lie, and then they'd go, well, yesterday you said, So I go, oh, man, I told two lies. Then I just have to tell the truth because it's simpler. And I want to hear the truth so I don't have to wade through the other person's lies and bullshit to figure out what lie and bullshit they're telling me. That's wasting my whole life.

[Dani]

Right?

[Mimi]

Just tell me the truth. I can deal with the truth. I'd rather have the truth, and I'd rather tell the truth. Saves a lot of time. Then I have more time for shopping on Amazon. Amen, sister.

[Dani]

We were just talking about our Love for Amazon. We're like both obsessed with Amazon. I told her that I have such a problem with shopping in the middle of the night and she said she does too. And we're like absolutely obsessed with Amazon. It's just too, it's too easy.

[Mimi]

Like I'm up there last night at 3:00am Getting, I go, I gotta get a scrub brush for the porch because me and my granddaughter, we shoot bugs. You know, we got that bug killer with the salt and it's so fun. And so we shoot all these June bugs and then, you know, their blood squishes right out of em.

[Dani]

Oh, wow.

[Mimi]

And it leaves a mark on the cement. So I gotta get a scrubber. I'm thinking at 3am waking up, you've gotta get a scrubber. So I get on Amazon on and, and I peruse through like 39 pages of different kinds of scrubbers and then.

[Dani]

End up with like five. Yep. You get like. I always get like two or three of the same thing. Even when I order clothes, I order two of the same thing. Different, different sizes. Because I never. You don't know if you never know.

[Mimi]

Yeah, because it never does fit.

[Dani]

Ever.

[Mimi]

Nothing ever fits.

[Dani]

Yes. And I like to have a selection.

[Mimi]

You know, because you know which one to send back.

[Dani]

No, I just give it to my friends. So I have like girlfriends who live around me. So if I have any extra clothes, I just pile them all together and I just give it to them.

[Mimi]

Yeah, I try to do that too, but my daughter in law says I should send things back. Instead of doing that, I feel like.

[Dani]

It'S so much more of a hassle to do that, you know.

[Mimi]

Like, why ask her to do it? Yeah, she's good at returns. She's really thrifty. That's a good word for it. She's thrifty.

[Dani]

I admire that because I just can't do it. I don't have the patience to send stuff back. I'm just like, I'd rather get it to somebody else.

[Mimi]

Oh, you asked me about my spirituality. See, that's an alien word to me, spirituality. When people say that, I have to say, what do you mean exactly by that? Because everybody says spirituality. I don't know what they mean.

[Dani]

So I think there's a difference. I think there's a difference between being religious and being spiritual. And I feel like being religious puts so many people into a box. So I feel like when you ask somebody, are you spiritual or what is your spirituality? That it's a little bit more fluid. So it's like you know, there's some people, like, what do you believe happens when we die? Like, where do you think we go? Do you think that there's a higher power? Do you think, do you believe in the devil? Like, there's so many different things and aspects of spirituality.

[Mimi]

That's a lot of questions. Well, I believe in God, right?

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

And, you know, I'm a Jew. I'm a scary Jew. I control everything in the world, and that's a hard job. I do try to control everything in the world because I'm so afraid everything's falling apart and that I'm the only person alive who knows how to fix it because that's part of my mental makeup. And I just stay in that all day talking to God. How do you think I can get shove my way into this situation or that situation to give these people my 2 cents of how they can fix things? Because every time when people listen to me, things go better. And I just feel like God put me here to tell people how to fix up their lives. And that's my spirituality. I just feel like God tells me what to do and I do it. So however you're going to interpret that, you know, every day he calls me, I'm like, what? I don't want him to bother me, but he does all the time. And he says, you know, you have to do it. And I'm like, can't you get somebody else? Can't you get somebody they want to hear it from? Can't you get a guy, a real good looking guy or a rapper or somebody like that they want to hear? He goes, no, it has to be you, Roseanne. Like, you know, I'll do it, but it never goes right for me when I do it. I say, how come it never goes right for me and I always do it wrong, you know, I feel like.

[Dani]

People want to hear from you, though. I feel like people like, yes, you do take the fall and people do. You're an easy target for people to come after. But that doesn't mean that they're not listening to what you're saying. They listen to everything you say, whether they apply it to their lives or not. That's a different story. But I do think people would rather hear messages from God from you than, you know, somebody who you just named like a rapper or, you know, somebody else. I think you.

[Mimi]

Well, here's what he told me. I'm like, you know, I'll do it, but, you know, everyone's gonna hate me like they usually do when I say anything about the truth that you want me to tell. And he's like, well, you know, Rosanna, nobody likes a truth teller. They only like him after they've been dead about 2,000 or so years. And only if they died in horrible, torturous deaths, then they like him about 2,000 years later. But if the guy came again, they do it all over to him the second time. Because they don't like to hear the truth. Well, why? Because it's too scary. It's too naked. And it makes. You have to change. And most people can change, nor do they want to. They don't give a damn. They'd rather tell everybody else how to change. And so would I. But the only difference is I did change. I changed. Not just once, but many, many times. And every time I changed, I wanted to tell people about it because I thought it was so great to be able to change. To be able to change from when your first reaction, you know, when the doctor hits you there and you go, go. Whatever response or reflex. When your first reflex, like mine was at a time where I was so filled with negativity to hate, to judge, to look outside myself for answers. And I changed that because I was able to crash to the bottom and I didn't. I stopped letting all this artificial crap prop me up. It just was all kicked out from under me and I crashed to the bottom. And that was just the best thing. Cause it made me change and it made me value different things. And the thing I valued most was my connection to God and always did, but this time even more. And I knew that it was transformative, and I knew that was it. It was going to change me even more than the other thousand times God saved my life and brought about change in my negative reactions. And I was able to change in that now. And I cry over this because it is a miracle, because I'm a Scorpio and I'm old and bitter and a Jew, because I'm so paranoid, too, with mental health issues because of a horrible world. But as a child. But my first response now is love. I never understood it. I never knew. And what a different everything. I mean, you know what I'm talking about, too. I know you do, because I've watched and your story and your. Your radiating love for this man whose whole being is changing. I'm like, what is that guy on? I got to get on that because I've got to lose weight. You know, I really do have to.

[Dani]

You look phenomenal. I know.

[Mimi]

You're tiny. I know. But I want to look even better. I really do. Because a lot of these shops on Amazon, on their. The luxury shops, they don't go. Go above size 8.

[Dani]

Really? I don't know. I think you're looking in the wrong places, because I've.

[Mimi]

On those luxury shops on Lamazon, on the Amazon, the new ones.

[Dani]

I haven't made it over there yet. On that. That side of it, I'm on the.

[Mimi]

Well, they're way too expensive, I'll tell you that. Amazon's trying to rip us off with that because I'll go on there. They have some ugly dresses on there for $3,000. And I'm like, are you kidding? Are you kidding?

[Dani]

Tell Jeff right now. I'm sure he's gonna listen to me. Jeff needs to calm me down.

[Mimi]

You gotta up your product on the luxury thing and down your prices, honey. I think it's that girl he's gonna marry. You know, I'm still negative when I'm in my comedy mode because you've gotta slap people a little at times when you're my age. But that girl he's marrying, she must have something to do with that luxury page. And I don't like the way she dresses. She might be a nice girl. I don't.

[Bailey]

No.

[Mimi]

I don't like the way she's carrying herself and the way she's dressing. And so she should have nothing to do with that luxury page. That's my opinion.

[Dani]

How do you feel about the fact that she was just part of the group that went to space?

[Mimi]

I think about those poor people that went to space and then something went wrong and they never returned. Why couldn't that happen?

[Dani]

Well, they said. Well, they said. They said that those people did come back. Didn't they come back in, like, March, the people that went up and they got stuck? Yeah, they did. They did say they came back, but. Yeah, but then do you believe that.

[Mimi]

They really didn't really go anywhere. Katy Perrying them, Right?

[Dani]

I was going. Do you believe that? They went.

[Mimi]

They never would have went in space, those girls.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

They'd have to be away from their handlers. They couldn't do that for two days. I know that. You know.

[Dani]

Do you think Bezos is handling her, or do you think she's handling Bezos? Who?

[Mimi]

The girlfriend. She's his handler.

[Dani]

Oh, okay.

[Mimi]

You know, people say dominatrix, I can. You know. You know that business. You have information, as I do, too, from the old days, you know, back when I was alive and had a sex drive and everything. But, you know, she's a dominatrix. You can see that, right? She makes him put on a frilly pink apron and clean the house. I can see it.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

Can you?

[Dani]

I don't. I don't really know too much about their relationship to analyze it. I think she's beautiful, and I think Jeff, you know how it's. It's the tale of their sex life.

[Mimi]

Can't you just fantasize about that? She makes him.

[Dani]

Nothing about Jeff Bezos makes me want to fantasize anything. Okay? No, I. I do not have a thing for Jeff Bezos. Can't do it.

[Mimi]

You win that one.

[Dani]

In the 80s, you were one of the most powerful women in Hollywood. And to have a top rated show like Roseanne that pretty much showed a, you know, like in. I always call it in a world of feel good family television because there was like family matters, Full house, and then there's Roseanne who, you know, you guys painted a picture of what real families were about. Like, everything else was kind of like cookie cutter and like sugary, whereas yours was real and raw. And I think that you showed people how to love you good, mama. Thank you. I think you showed people how to love just by being yourself. So to hear you say that you were so negative and stuff like that. Was that after the Roseanne stuff, the.

[Mimi]

Show was my therapy.

[Dani]

Was it okay?

[Mimi]

It was my soul and my God thing. It's like I'm going to tell I'm going to make something good from this. But, you know, like all comics and all proud writers and people like that, creatives, I mean, it does come from.

[Bailey]

A.

[Mimi]

Troll and a slug, But I produce a great song. I mean, we're all kind of that way, you know, our worst enemies while we're in pain. And that's what makes us creative so much. Especially when you're young. That's why people take drugs and, you know, everybody's doing all that. But. But when you're older and you get that big change where it's like, oh.

[Dani]

Man.

[Mimi]

I don't have to do that anymore. It's from another place now. I guess it's wisdom of age because now I'm writing, like I said, I'm writing another short show. And I think it's so funny. The people I have in it are funny. And it's a. We're just busting the gut. It's a different experience of people who love me and are creative and fun. I just want to have fun this time. Just fun, fun, fun and laughs off. No fighting, nothing. I'm doing it as an experiment because I, of course, made a bargain with God. You know, I think I have one more thing in me and. And I just promised joy because, you know, I'm a jew, like I say, and I do study Torah, and Torah tells us that God loves our joy so much more than he. I'm not saying it right, but of course he has mercy on us for us when we're in sorrow, but he has great, great, great joy when we have joy. So I'm doing that to give joy to God rather than when he had to give me so much mercy.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mimi]

You don't want to create out of joy because I feel like hell. I'm 72. I got to go out big, happy big, and, you know, buying all kind of Amazon things.

[Dani]

What is it like aging, you know, in Hollywood and just seeing yourself from the beginning till now? Would you ever expect to be in the mind frame that you're in now back then?

[Mimi]

Well, I left Hollywood. You know, I left Hollywood after the roseanne show, which ended in 97, and, you know, I didn't want my kids raised there. I didn't want to be there when I wasn't working. So, you know, then I went to Hawaii and I was a farmer immediately.

[Dani]

So in the 90s is when you went to Hawaii?

[Mimi]

I can't remember. I have to look it up. I can't remember it.

[Dani]

No worries.

[Mimi]

But anyway, yeah, when my son was going in ninth grade, I don't know what year it was, but anyways, I went over there and bought a farm and immediately started farming, and my son went to high school that there, and all my grandkids were there and we just were farming. I never went back to Hawaii. I mean, to hollywood, till they called me and begged me and, you know, I came back and had another number one show after 20 years. I did it twice. And so that was pretty spectacular.

[Dani]

You guys, we're heading into the season finale.

[Bailey]

It's coming to an end.

[Dani]

It's coming to an end.

[Bailey]

Last episode. Right now, you guys are listening to.

[Dani]

How long are we taking off? We take off like a month, right?

[Bailey]

We always take off one month between seasons.

[Dani]

We take off one month between seasons. So what are you guys gonna do without us? I don't know. I know.

[Bailey]

Maybe. What do you guys do another season to meet the d fors?

[Dani]

Oh, yeah. Oh, you guys know, once the podcast goes on a hiatus for a month, then meet the d Fords comes out. So we are rolling that out.

[Bailey]

That's gonna be fun because that's like A lot of content we've been harboring, literally no one has seen. It's so good. Your birthday, what we did for your birthday is in there.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Bailey]

Everyone gets to see the never before seen video that we made for you. That's going to be so good.

[Dani]

Yeah. I forgot about that. Oh, my God. That seems so long. I know. Yeah.

[Bailey]

We've done so much between that span of time. It's kind of crazy. But we've got crazy. So many cool things in this new season of Meet the Deforts.

[Dani]

Yeah. I'm excited. It's going to be fun. And I'm looking forward to a freaking bright break.

[Bailey]

Oh, I know.

[Dani]

Okay. I love filming the podcast, but I like a break too. Yeah.

[Bailey]

I mean, we go 22 weeks straight.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Bailey]

Before we take breaks.

[Dani]

Dropping some podcasts don't even do seasons. I don't know how they do that. I like to, like, I don't know, have some sort of, like, it's like a fresh start. Yeah. And like, we do a different cover and it's like, I don't know, we just. We try to keep it fresh, crisp, you know?

[Bailey]

Oh, wow.

[Dani]

Yeah. Well, it's hot as balls in Tennessee, dude. Like, first of all, it's a freaking monsoon. It won't stop raining. I can't get anything done on my farm.

[Bailey]

No.

[Dani]

It's a mud hill.

[Bailey]

But it was a farmer now.

[Dani]

Yeah. Haley. Haley showed up and showed out.

[Bailey]

We got a farmer over here. We really. We should use that content for her farmers Only profile. Profile.

[Dani]

Yeah. I took a great photo with.

[Bailey]

In the overalls.

[Dani]

Pony Boys penis. Oh, not. That sounded weird. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of like, you know those, like, where you hold a small tower of pizza? This wiener is always hanging it.

[Bailey]

He put it away the other day. I was like, where did it go? Oh, yeah. Hours it was gone. I was like, wow. He actually.

[Dani]

I wonder why.

[Bailey]

Maybe he's calm. I don't know.

[Dani]

No, when they're calm is what it hangs. Oh. So he might be. Maybe he was just getting used to his. Yeah. So I don't know if you guys saw my tik Tok that I made, but Pony Boy has gone to live with Memes because I brought him originally. Mimi wanted Pony Boy anyways, but I was like, no, no, no, let me try. You know, we'll get him here, whatever. And for the first, like, couple days, he was a great fit. And then after that, he just started bullying the out of everybody. It's like once he got comfortable.

[Bailey]

Yeah.

[Dani]

He kept kicking Nova too. But he especially was bullying Nova, and I just didn't like that. And he, like, created a divide in between Nova and Donkey. And, like, Donkey would not even fuck with her.

[Bailey]

And they, like, Nova kind of attached to him a little bit and kind of excluded her. Her old boyfriend.

[Dani]

I know you guys don't watch Love island, but I feel like you have a Love island going on. Yeah. And I feel like Ponyboy was like the brand new bombshell that walked in and, like, split up. I heard fucking. They featured J song Save Me on Love Island. I haven't gotten to that yet, but I'm why I'm getting to it. Who wants to be part of Island? Save it.

[Bailey]

Saved me.

[Dani]

It's right at, like, when Hud is about to, like, crash out again. Oh. Like, she's like, what you guys do? And they're like, we went on the. We went to the beach. She goes, my dream date. And then it plays Save Me. I gotta see this. Can we pull it up somehow or is there any way to see?

[Bailey]

Can you watch it, like, right now?

[Dani]

What do you mean? Like.

[Bailey]

Yeah, Is it out to watch?

[Dani]

Okay.

[Bailey]

Oh, yeah, it's out to watch. Cast it onto the TV.

[Dani]

Yeah, I'll find it on TikTok.

[Bailey]

Find that place.

[Dani]

Place that is. Wow.

[Bailey]

I would never expect that.

[Dani]

That's so funny. Yeah, somebody told me that today. I think my trainer, Lisa told me, and I was like, what? So funny.

[Bailey]

I. I used the song Save Me quite often in my life when I'm.

[Dani]

Like, I'm not okay.

[Bailey]

Dying. Yeah, I'm not okay if I'm dying of heat. I'm like, I am not okay.

[Dani]

Me too. I don't. My husband blames me for his algorithm on Pandora being messed up because anytime a jelly roll song comes on, I skip. Skip it. Yeah. I can't listen to. I love my husband to death, but I do not listen to his music. I'll listen to his old stuff.

[Bailey]

We're good. She'll be able to when she finds it.

[Dani]

Okay. About it. Do I stream there? Eat it? So funny. I'm sorry, but who. Whoever Huda is, she has completely made Love Island. She's the only person I hear about almost every episode. Episode. That's the reason I watched it. Why? What is she crashing out about? She's the one who says I'm a mommy. Right, Mamacita? Yeah, I just got to that episode.

[Bailey]

Oh, it's great.

[Dani]

It's great. I mean, Love island should thank her. Let's get her on the podcast. I would love to get her on the podcast for sure. I don't even watch. I think they're still filming. I don't even watch Love island, but I'll start watching it tonight. I'm only gonna watch it because of Huda.

[Bailey]

You.

[Dani]

That you will binge it. I seen her shaking her ass, and I was like, hey, she was a. She's a stripper. I even more reason to love her. I love her. Mamacita, Mamacita. And then I heard people are, like, trying to shame her because she had, like, work done on her face or something. I think her lips look great. Everyone's like, her lips and lashes. I'm like, I love them. I think she looks beautiful. Ready? Yep.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

No, he didn't really say anything about you on the date.

[Dani]

He was just saying that it was a really strange, stressful situation. What was the date?

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

It was just, like, sitting down, like, on the beach.

[Mimi]

My dream date.

[Dani]

Cute. And he knows that that is hilarious. And he knows that.

[Bailey]

Oh, my God.

[Dani]

Sitting down on the beach. You know what? Jay and I should do that sound together. That would be. Oh, my God. You should send me that. Send me that so I have it should.

[Bailey]

That would be so funny.

[Dani]

That would be hilarious. Hilarious. Yeah. So I guess I'm gonna dive into Love island tonight. I was browsing through Tick Tock the other day, and my FYBs. My FYP has been on fire lately. It's been, like, crazy. This girl is on Tick Tock talking about how. I can't even believe I'm about to say this. She had, like, a blood disorder in high school, so she had to get a rib removed. And after the surgery, she asked the. The surgeon like, hey, can I keep my rib? And the surgeon's like, yeah, sure. So he gives it to her in, like, a bottle of formaldehyde. Well, she got it home, and after, like, a few weeks, she was looking at it, and she said that there was, like, meat still on it and, like, drove her crazy. And she was like, I don't understand why there's meat on it. Right? So she boils it. It boils all the meat off the bone and then proceeds to take a nibble of her own flesh. She tells the story on Tik Tok. Not where I thought this story was going. Do you guys want to hear her tell the story? Yeah. Low key. It's crazy. Was it. Was it good? When I was in high school, I had to get my removed for this rare, like, blood syndrome thing. And so when I got it removed, I asked for it back after the surgery. And for some reason they just agreed to give it back to me. And they gave it back in this little vial filled with liquid. And there was still like meat on it, like muscle. And so when I got home, I had to get all the muscle off so it would stay like preserved and wouldn't like rot. And so I boiled it in this pot and then at the end I had a rib with cooked meat on it and I tried some of it. I ate some of it. So I have eaten some of my own human flesh. And I think that's pretty cool. And I don't think it's that weird, honestly.

[Bailey]

Excuse me.

[Dani]

Yeah, I think it's pretty exciting. It didn't taste good, by the way. It tasted very bad. Probably because it was soaking in some like, formaldehyde, I don't know. Yeah, so that's how my FYP has been for the past couple of weeks. And I'm not supposed to ingest formaldehyde? I don't think so.

[Bailey]

In.

[Dani]

I don't think so. Yeah. No.

[Bailey]

Okay, but what's the difference in that? And like nickel on the sides?

[Dani]

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[Mimi]

Hmm.

[Mike Tyson]

It's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.

[Dani]

Could you be more specific?

[Mike Tyson]

When it's cravinient.

[Dani]

Okay.

[Mike Tyson]

Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter. Available right down the street at a.m. p.m. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I.

[Dani]

Can grab in just a second at a.m. pM.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

I'm seeing a pattern here.

[Mike Tyson]

Well, yeah, we're talking about what I crave.

[Dani]

Which is anything from am pm.

[Mike Tyson]

What more could you want? Stop by AM PM where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craven and convenient. That's Cravingience Ampm. Too much good stuff.

[Dani]

Okay. You haven't heard that the. Oh, I heard over a billion served.

[Bailey]

We literally.

[Dani]

Yes, continue.

[Bailey]

You know when you chew on the size of your fingernails Different. How is that different? You're eating a piece of yourself. That's cannibal. You're telling me right now. If you don't. If you take the little skin on the side of your nails.

[Dani]

Like dead skin though.

[Bailey]

So technically no, that's not like flesh and meat.

[Dani]

I eat the skin on the side of my. My fingernails. What about chewing on your lip? I. I've chew on my lip all the time. But I'm not eating. That's inside of me. I'm not boiling. There's something different about that rib. Just moist meat hanging off. Ever say that again? Waste meat hanging off the boat back. No, I'm moist. Okay.

[Bailey]

You just looked into my soul.

[Dani]

Yeah. Eating flesh off of a bone is completely different than eating the sides of your fingernail. Yeah. You can't convince me otherwise. There's no argument. Hell no, we won't go. I'd rather eat my toenails than eat something that came off the inside of me. Whoa. Hey. Gosh. It's did. Yeah, she did. And it's the strong one. It was the big strong one. That one didn't even. It was like a dagger. I don't know how she did it. She put some jelly on her jam on it. Grandma's jam. Amish jam. Right. Grandma's jam.

[Bailey]

I got to confess something. I clipped my toenail the other day, and the whole thing came off.

[Dani]

Was that necessary?

[Bailey]

I felt like it was. Sharon, tell.

[Dani]

Right. I mean, what are we. We're sharing somebody else's story, not our own? God, that is so. I can't. I realize that I have a different tism than Bailey does. Like, I. We all have our own tisms. Like, certain things gross us out. Bailey walks outside in socks. Socks. And they get sopping. Okay, thank you. I'm the same way. It drives me crazy. And, like, she'll walk around and, like, in the farm with wet socks.

[Bailey]

I'm gonna throw up.

[Dani]

Okay. I'm glad I'm not crazy, because every time she does it, I'm like, bailey psychopath likes wet socks, and she wears jeans to farm. I'm like, how do you wear tight ass jeans to farm? And she's like, how do you wear leggings? I'm like, I'm wearing cotton breathable.

[Bailey]

You know, we were trying to catch the horse. Mind you guys, it took us six hours to catch this horse because it had just monsooned through this steep hill that he was on. I would love to see her with a rope. And she's just. She goes, I'm just pissed. Now she's walking with this lasso. She's like, I'm gonna just lasso him.

[Dani]

Like, I'm not even that horse. I'd love to see this. Yes. That horse had some gallop. All right. I. Yeah, he was. And he was getting mad.

[Bailey]

He's like, what was Bailey doing this?

[Dani]

Huh?

[Bailey]

What was Bailey wearing to do this?

[Dani]

Tight ass jeans.

[Bailey]

No, no, no. The catching it. She was in.

[Dani]

Hey, dudes. Hey, dudes.

[Bailey]

No.

[Dani]

And a bikini or something.

[Bailey]

And a bathing suit.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Bailey]

I said, what are you doing?

[Dani]

I said, go show hey, dudes on the farm, bro. It was so gross. I don't know how she did. She does it. I'm like, we have a different tism. There's no way in hell I could do that.

[Bailey]

Absolutely not.

[Dani]

We established that we have differentisms. Hers is, like, texture and, like, it's like, textures of, like, foods and stuff like that. Where mine is, like, textures of clothing. More food than fabrics. Oh.

[Bailey]

Like the wood spoon she tried to touch me with the other day. I wanted to beat her with it.

[Dani]

I know.

[Bailey]

But it wasn't like that when I bought it. I test the spoons before I buy them, but then they, like, dry out after you wash them a couple times. And then they get this, like, gritty texture to it, and it makes My teeth hurt.

[Dani]

I used to. When I was younger, my. You know, like, car door handles. I used to. I had, like. This is how I know I was. Had tism since I was a kid. It used to gross me out so bad, but I made myself do it. And it's making me get goosebumps right now, but I would slide my nail in it in that little. Excuse me. What? In that little crease. Oh, it was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah. I don't know why I did it, but it was like, nail it. I grabbed something today in a bag, and this whole nail came back this way. Nope, can't do it. No, can't do it. C. Came back this way. Today we have on the couch, Whiz Khalifa.

[Mike Tyson]

Hey, what's up? What's up?

[Dani]

How you doing?

[Mike Tyson]

Chilling.

[Dani]

Dude, I'm so happy you're here.

[Mike Tyson]

Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

[Dani]

You are just, like, the smoothest cat, always and forever. Every time I see you, you have a smile on your face. You're just a chill vibe. You remind me so much of my dad because I used to always say my dad was, like, the coolest cat. And then I found out that you were born September 8th. My dad was September 4th.

[Mike Tyson]

Oh, yeah. That makes perfect sense.

[Dani]

Yeah. So you guys have just that, like, super chill, super, super cool vibe.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Dani]

Yeah. Of course. If I could compare you to anybody, I'm sure you get this a lot. It's. I swear you and Snoop Dogg are like the same human, just different font.

[Mike Tyson]

Exactly.

[Dani]

Literally. Was he an inspiration for you growing up?

[Mike Tyson]

Huge inspiration for me growing up, especially in my teen years, like, just being, like, a taller and skinny dude. It was like, you know, I've had to find my swag. And then just looking at Snoop, that was like, the tallest, coolest, skinniest dude ever. So it's like, you know what I mean? I definitely model myself. Just my whole, you know, approach after, you know, Snoop's rules.

[Dani]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I miss Pimp Snoop. Yeah. Can we bring him back?

[Mike Tyson]

There's a lot of people who don't even know he was a pimp.

[Dani]

Oh, I do. I listen. I grew up in that lifestyle in Vegas, so I loved Pimp Snoop. I'm like, bring him back. Remember when he used to hang out with Bishop Don Juan all the time and, like, that whole, whole era that he went through?

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He raised us. He raised us right.

[Dani]

He did raise us right. If. So, you know how him and Martha Stewart have that TV show? If they were to replace Snoop, with you, who would you bring on as your Martha?

[Mike Tyson]

Who would be my Martha? Yeah, I think, like, Chelsea Handler.

[Dani]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

She's hilarious.

[Mike Tyson]

She's funny as hell. Yeah.

[Dani]

We love Chelsea in this house.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

She actually gave as well of the first people who gave us, like, our first break as far as, like, reality tv.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

She believed in our family and, like, sh. I know she's a. She's so.

[Mike Tyson]

I didn't even know that. She just a g. To me as well.

[Dani]

She is.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. So that would be like my Martha for sure.

[Dani]

Yeah. Dude, I think we need to. We need to do that.

[Mike Tyson]

We could.

[Dani]

We need to get Whiz and Chelsea Handler in a fucking TV show together. That would be so fire.

[Mike Tyson]

That would be awesome.

[Dani]

I know that you're stoned all the time and you're not smoking today on my podcast. Do you feel out of your element a little bit?

[Mike Tyson]

No, I'm good. I got high before I came in.

[Dani]

All right, good.

[Mike Tyson]

It's all good. I'm not tripping.

[Dani]

What are some of your favorite stoner foods?

[Mike Tyson]

Favorite stoner foods. I would have to go with Funyuns. As far as chips.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

I like to eat a lot of fruit.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

I like to eat, like, pineapple and grapes and straw. I just like, get a big ass bowl of fruit. Just mix it all together.

[Dani]

I love it. It reminds me of that TikTok. I like a lot of fresh fruit.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

From the stepbrothers. Is that from stepbrothers? I like a lot of fresh fruit.

[Mike Tyson]

Cereal any time of the day.

[Dani]

What's your favorite cereal?

[Mike Tyson]

Apple Jacks.

[Dani]

Really? That's different. I knew. I normally hear like Lucky Charms or Captain Crunch.

[Mike Tyson]

Okay. For real. I usually hear Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

[Dani]

I do love a good Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Or Honey Grahams.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, Honey Grahams is good.

[Dani]

Don't around Honey Nut.

[Mike Tyson]

Cheerios.

[Dani]

Delish.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. Don't sleep. Sleep on them either.

[Dani]

I. Dude, I love me some Apple.

[Mike Tyson]

Jacks are good because they're, like, flavored and they're sweet and the consistency, they don't get all soggy.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

Fast. I like Apple Jacks.

[Dani]

Have you ever thought about doing, like, reality tv? I think you are literally made for it.

[Mike Tyson]

I did. Thank you so much. I used to watch so much reality TV when I was a kid. Like, Real World and, like, all of that stuff.

[Dani]

I miss the OG Real World.

[Mike Tyson]

Yo, Me too. And I used to, like, that was my thing. I wanted to be like a personality.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

And. And yeah. So as I got older, I started to make my Own Little series on YouTube. They're called DayTo Days. But they're like, you know, they're not TV ready. Cuz it's a lot of weed on there.

[Dani]

Right?

[Mike Tyson]

But yeah, if I ever got the opportunity to do something like that where I could show like my family or my life or just my personality, I would love that. I think that would be hella fun.

[Dani]

I think you have enough star power now to make that happen.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, I'm a super fun dude too. Like I. I try to anything, like it don't matter what it is.

[Dani]

I think people would just want to see you like, raise your kids. Like, I probably like the dynamic between you and yourself.

[Mike Tyson]

I love kids. Even. Even if I got to do like stuff with other people's kids as well too. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I want to do like a wiz summer camp type thing.

[Dani]

Oh, that would be so sweet.

[Mike Tyson]

Like play games and we boxing and we working out and we having fun and we being creative, huh? Yeah, I'll be tight.

[Dani]

I love that. If anybody's listening that can make that happen. You guys need to reach out to his team and make that happen.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, where's. Where's the summer camp?

[Dani]

Have you ever seen that TV show Drunk History?

[Mike Tyson]

I have.

[Dani]

Okay, so say Netflix came to you and they gave you a show called High History. What would your first historical moment be that you would relive? That you'd get stoned and just relive.

[Mike Tyson]

I would want to get stoned and relive this. All good. I mean, history is like pretty dark.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

You think about it.

[Dani]

It is, actually.

[Mike Tyson]

I don't wanna, I don't wanna go through that.

[Dani]

He's like, no dark.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, no dark. I probably want to get stoned and go to like a Muhammad Ali fight.

[Dani]

That'd be dope. That would be iconic.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dani]

Dude, that would be so cool.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dani]

What a moment in time, huh?

[Mike Tyson]

For sure.

[Dani]

I wish boxing was like, it was back in the day, like Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard event. I was a heat. My dad was a huge boxing fan growing up. So like I got to watch all that growing up and I just feel like boxing's cool now, but it's not like it was back in the day.

[Mike Tyson]

Absolutely.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

The sport of it has changed and just like how people enjoy it has changed.

[Dani]

But.

[Mike Tyson]

But back in the day. Yeah, it was awesome. It was exciting. Yeah, you had like really, really good fighters and multiple really good fighters too.

[Dani]

So many.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, a lot of them.

[Dani]

Mike Tyson used to hang out in the strip club that I worked at all the time. And he was the coolest dude. He used to give me money because I never bothered him. Yeah, he'd be like. I'd walk by and he would just hand me, like, like $1,000 and just, like, thank you for leaving me alone.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, he just respected that.

[Dani]

Yeah. No, he was just so. Because everybody was always on him and always wanted his attention. Attention. And he noticed that I never, like, just, you know, he was already getting bombarded, but he was just the sweetest dude.

[Mike Tyson]

That's nice.

[Dani]

That's why it's crazy that I love Mike now, too.

[Mike Tyson]

He's so cool.

[Dani]

Like, he's amazing.

[Mike Tyson]

He's just super chill. He'd be smoking weed, and he just. In his own world, he's a good dude, man.

[Dani]

Anybody that can raise pigeons the way he does and love them, right? Because honestly, like, pigeons are, like, a forgotful. Like, a forgotten, like, bird. Because they used to do so much. Like, they used to fucking send messages during the war. And, like, you know, like, they were very useful. And now they're, like, known as, like.

[Mike Tyson]

You know, dirty birds.

[Dani]

Dirty birds. And, you know, there's Mike over there just raising pigeons on that dirty bird. Loving the. Out of a dirty bird. So I also read that you started writing lyrics and recording music at age 9 or 10. Like, were you just musical from the gate? Like, have you always had that sense of, like, just rhythm and soul?

[Mike Tyson]

I think, yeah. Also, actually, like, my parents played a lot of music in the house, just, like, getting ready or cleaning up or driving. So it was always around me, and it was something that made me feel good. But I got some of my best memories from music or where I was at or what I was doing. So that kind of translated into my love for music. Music. And then my cousins, they were. They were rapping and doing. Just because they were older than me. So that's when I figured out that I could actually make it. And I was like, oh, okay, this isn't that difficult. It's like when you get an instrument and you start playing, right? It was the same thing for me. I was just kind of around, like, writing raps here and there. And then people just started telling me how good I was. So I just practiced and kept going and going and going. And my mind is like. I got a really big imagination. So I would see stuff that people didn't necessarily see as, like, doable. I would see it as, like, oh, okay, we could make an album. We could, you know, make merch we could put on a show, we could. You know what I mean? So I just started, like, developing into this over time, but it was all based off of enjoying music and loving how it made me feel. Like I remember watching music videos and just being blown away or, like, saving up all my money to go buy, you know, Bone Thugs and harmony tape or something. You know what I mean? It was so valuable to me. It wasn't like, just music. So, like, that's what started me creating and doing what I'm doing.

[Dani]

Music was the soundtrack to your life.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

I feel like our parents, actually, that was one of the really cool things that they did for us, is I grew up in a very musical household too, and, like, you know, I had so many influences. What were some of your influences growing up that inspired you to rap, but also just even that weren't in the rap genre?

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, my dad listened to everything. He listened to Journey, he listened to Bob Marley, he would listen to Whitney Houston.

[Dani]

Love Whitney.

[Mike Tyson]

My dad had, like, a huge record collection, so we would just sit down and listen to funk records, everything. And my mom was more like the hip hop like she was.

[Dani]

She's of kind current Mom's the G.

[Mike Tyson]

Oh, yeah, my mom. Gee, she listening too short.

[Dani]

Oh, I love it.

[Mike Tyson]

I love it.

[Dani]

Okay, so mom's with the. Yeah, all right.

[Mike Tyson]

My mom smoked weed and everything.

[Dani]

I love mom.

[Mike Tyson]

That's who I got smoking weed from for sure.

[Dani]

Oh, can you take me on the journey of you doing MMA and fitness?

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

When? How did you get into this? Because, Yeah, I think that's amazing that it's. It's very taxing on the body to be doing stuff like that.

[Dr. Leah Cordes]

So.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, yeah, I trained pretty hard too. I. I got into it. My big homies, they were doing jiu jitsu at the time, and they're like, hey, you need to come to the gym and we're gonna rough you up and all of this stuff. So as soon as I got to the gym, they instantly were like, you need to lift weights. Like, you're way too small. You gotta eat and you gotta lift weights. You could. You could actually do something if you, you know, I mean, took it seriously. So I got on, like, a regimen where I was, you know, doing certain amount of calories and making sure I started sleeping. And then I just liked how my body felt and, like, what it did to me mentally as well. And the martial arts part of it just kind of turned into its own little thing because I was naturally a little bit gifted at it. But just being the type of person where I want to do something over and over and over and try to perfect it, that's the perfect sport for that because you just get better every day. So each and every day you learn new techniques or just fine tuning or practicing or drilling or there's always something to do. So it's like that forever project for me. Like that's how I feel like martial arts is. It's just something that I could practice for the rest of my life. And it's good for my body and it's good for me mentally. It's a skill that I, that I could use if I needed to.

[Dani]

Hopefully not though.

[Mike Tyson]

Nah, I don't, I don't. But being a dad though, you got to be ready for that shit too because it's like, look, I'm not calling security, I'm gonna beat your dad up.

[Dani]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Right. Would you ever fight in the ring professionally? Would you ever if they offered it to you? Because I think I had read also that you said you wanted to be a wrestler for a day.

[Mike Tyson]

I did.

[Dani]

Would you still do that?

[Mike Tyson]

I would more do some wrestling shit than fighting because wrestling is like entertainment is acting actually getting in the ring and doing that's not what I train, trained for.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mike Tyson]

But I'm trained good enough to do some. I'm always ready.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mike Tyson]

And anybody who's ever seen me do what I do, they, they know what level I perform on. So the whole getting in the ring is more for entertainment. Like it makes everybody money and it's like I'm not really.

[Dani]

What if they came to you with like a bag though?

[Mike Tyson]

What's the bag though?

[Dani]

I mean you name your price.

[Mike Tyson]

It would have to be like 50.

[Dani]

Million and then you would get in the ring.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, it would be like Floyd Mayweather prices.

[Dani]

I mean, you know, they might do it.

[Mike Tyson]

I need 50 M's for my first fight guaranteed. Cuz it's going to like, it's going to pull a big crowd.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

And I'm going to knock somebody out cold.

[Dani]

What's your move? What is your move? Like if you had a move in the ring?

[Mike Tyson]

Well, if I did boxing in, it would probably be like a overhand right.

[Dani]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's.

[Mike Tyson]

That'S, that's pretty much night night. Or my, or my, or my lead left hook. Oh yeah, yeah. No, what a lead left is, is orthodox, but it's just coming from the left. So I'm either hit you in the face or a nice little lead left body Shot.

[Dani]

Gotcha.

[Mike Tyson]

But if we doing Muay Thai, there's nobody seeing me in Muay Thai. Like, boxing is different because you only got hands.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mike Tyson]

But if I get to use my feet and my elbows. Yeah. It's. Oh, there's nobody seeing me.

[Dani]

You're knocking somebody out.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. And I'm tall as hell too, so you're not even getting close to me. Yeah, just one. One round kick.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

The hardest kick is probably like the. The spinning back kick.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

So like. Yeah, if we really.

[Dani]

You'd knock somebody's head off.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. Or like break some ribs or like puncture some lungs or something like that. Yeah. Nice spinning back.

[Dani]

I like it. Now we're talking. We gotta make this happen too.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. I like elbows too, because they just manage you.

[Dani]

I'm just kidding.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. Cause with elbow, like when you boxing, you got like the gloves are protecting them.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mike Tyson]

But if we do MMA and I elbow you in your forehead and I split your forehead open and you're bleeding, it's gonna be hard for you to fight me for the rest of the.

[Dani]

Fight or break a nose or if.

[Mike Tyson]

I knee you and break your ribbon head in the first round, you're not really going to want to keep was.

[Dani]

I feel like you're ready for this. I feel like you're.

[Mike Tyson]

I don't want to hurt anybody. I don't like hurting people. I like that.

[Dani]

I feel like you would rock the out of somebody, though.

[Mike Tyson]

But they got to pay me 50M's if you want to see some blood.

[Dani]

All right, well, whoever's listening, let's make that happen because I'm. I'm tuning in. I want to see somebody get their ass whooped. What? Is something embarrassing you do alone that no one knows about until now?

[Mike Tyson]

Something embarrassing that I do alone that no one knows about? I cry a lot.

[Dani]

Really?

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

You're emotional. That's sweet though.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

I don't think that's embarrassing.

[Mike Tyson]

It is to me because I'll be. Why? I was watching, like, what's that encanto? Or what's that Disney movie?

[Dani]

I'm not sure.

[Mike Tyson]

It's the one with the. The Spanish girl and her family. What's that movie called? Difficult Man. I was crying in that the other day, though.

[Bailey]

You cried too?

[Mike Tyson]

I'm crying just thinking about was so. It was the sweetest freaking movie ever. It's so sweet.

[Dani]

It's sweet. It's not sad.

[Mike Tyson]

No, it's just sweet. It's like the sweetest thing. I mean, of course it's like sad. It Hit you. But it's like. Yeah, it's so sweet. It was like, I was like, oh, man. Here, here we go.

[Dani]

I don't think that's a weakness, though. I think that a man that can and, you know, show emotion. That's awesome. That just means that you're in tune with it.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, for sure. I. I think I'm very in tune with it.

[Dani]

He said I'm very in tune with it. So let's say some aliens came down to Earth and you're the spokesman for Earth. What would you. What's the first thing that you would show aliens and prove to them, like, that we're actually, like, cool people down here?

[Mike Tyson]

I would definitely smoke weed with them.

[Dani]

Yeah. You don't think they're not already smoking weed?

[Mike Tyson]

I think they're, like, past smoking weed. We might. This might be, like, really prehistoric to them. They're like, we've gotta. We got. We gotta bring them back to the origin.

[Dani]

Right, Right.

[Mike Tyson]

So I would. Because they're aliens. Like, everything is fast and.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

It's just like. Let's slow it down a little bit.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

I would smoke some weed with them and I would probably play them, like, Parliament Funkadelic record.

[Dani]

Oh, there we go. Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

I would put on some. Some Earth music. Music.

[Dani]

Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah.

[Dani]

Would you only smoke weed with them or would you drop acid with them?

[Mike Tyson]

I don't really do too much acid.

[Dani]

I can't either.

[Mike Tyson]

I could never. Yeah, yeah. So I would rather just smoke the weed.

[Dani]

Okay. Yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

Smoke weed, listen to records, watch a movie, go for a ride, get burgers.

[Dani]

A. Any particular burger?

[Mike Tyson]

Where. Where are the aliens landing? Are they landing here?

[Dani]

They'll not here. The Nashville sucks. Let's take them to la. At least they're. There's probably more to do.

[Mike Tyson]

So we go to, like, Astro Burger or something.

[Dani]

Okay.

[Mike Tyson]

In Hollywood because we get to. We get to cruise through Hollywood in the Low Rider and smoke weed and go get burgers.

[Dani]

Have you ever dropped acid before? Have you ever done psychedelics?

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah, I did.

[Dani]

You don't like them?

[Mike Tyson]

I think I did too much.

[Dani]

Yeah, I did.

[Mike Tyson]

I did acid with Diplo.

[Dani]

Oh, I would never do acid with Diplo.

[Mike Tyson]

It sounds like a good idea, right?

[Dani]

I know. No. Doesn't sound good to me.

[Mike Tyson]

I'm like, it's Diplo. Like, this is going to be awesome.

[Dani]

And I feel like he's on a permanent acid trip.

[Mike Tyson]

He is. He's walking acid.

[Dani]

Yeah. So how did that go?

[Mike Tyson]

It was. It was. It was interesting. It was. It was. It was intense. That's what it was. It was super duper intense. And it wasn't like a bad trip or anything.

[Dani]

Right.

[Mike Tyson]

But I could definitely feel it. And I would, like, go places and be like, hold on, I need a little second to myself. And then I would just be randomly somewhere else. It was like a movie. It was like I would blink and then I would wake up in another room.

[Dani]

Oh, no.

[Mike Tyson]

And I would blink and I would wake up in another room.

[Dani]

Oh, no. I would have anxiety.

[Mike Tyson]

It was crazy. And I thought I was Aladdin on a magic carpet for a minute.

[Dani]

I thought I was Michael Jackson when I did mushrooms.

[Mike Tyson]

Okay, cool, cool.

[Dani]

Yeah, I get it. I feel that.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. I definitely, for sure thought I was, like, sailing over the city on a magic carpet. Yeah.

[Dani]

So that was your first and only time doing.

[Mike Tyson]

Only time.

[Dani]

Okay. He's like, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Tyson]

I turned into Aladdin. I'm cool.

[Dani]

All right, final question. Build your dream strip club name, theme, signature drink, and house rules.

[Mike Tyson]

Name. Nippleopolis. What was the other one?

[Dani]

The other one was. Hold on. I'm so hung up on Nippleopolis and how fast you thought of that. You've thought of this before. Was the late. Oops, hold on. Sorry. It was build your dream strip club name, what's the theme, what's your signature drink, and what's the house rules?

[Mike Tyson]

Okay, the. The theme is 80s baddies.

[Dani]

Yes. Video vixen.

[Mike Tyson]

Yeah. Those are my favorite chicks.

[Dani]

Oh, me too.

[Mike Tyson]

So good. Like, nice bodies. Like, perfect boobs, cute little butt.

[Dani]

Yep.

[Mike Tyson]

Little bush, you know?

[Dani]

Are you into bush?

[Mike Tyson]

I like the little 80s bush.

[Dani]

We like the bush.

[Mike Tyson]

Well, we're not have a bush floor. Yeah, it'd be a floor for bush. And then downstairs floor.

[Dani]

Shit's here, Harry.

[Mike Tyson]

Upstairs and then downstairs, Nippleopolis is regular. The signature drink will be the Napoleon Dynamite.

[Dani]

I'm crying.

[Mike Tyson]

What's the last one?

[Dani]

The. I'm sorry, I'm still just hung up on what you're saying here. I'm so. I can't get over the bush floor. Signature drink. And what are the house rules?

[Mike Tyson]

House rules. Rules. Oh, we gotta respect the ladies. That's the number one rule.

[Dani]

Yes.

[Mike Tyson]

Tip well and leave room for the Holy Spirit. Leave room for the Holy Spirit.

[Dani]

I like that.

[Mike Tyson]

All right, cool.

[Dani]

I like it.

[Mike Tyson]

I love that. Welcome to Nippleopolis.

[Dani]

Whiz. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast, babe.

[Mike Tyson]

I'm. I'm happy to be beard. Thank you.

[Dani]

I appreciate you so much. Come back anytime.

[Mike Tyson]

I will.

[Dani]

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