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We have the Bunny XO show, we have Meet the D Fords, we have Propaganda, we have more shows that we're adding. And not to mention we have the visuals of the podcast. Head over to www.patreon.com backslash dumb blonde podcast and bunny XO is this thing on. So I wanted to kind of bring my listeners on a journey with you because you have so much lore to. And I wanted to kind of, you know, take it back to your childhood in Memphis growing up, you know, tell me what that was like. I know you've told this story a million times, but I know there's a bunch of listeners that probably are just getting to know you from my podcast. I really just want to paint that picture of where you came from to where you are now growing up in Memphis. Take me on that ride. Because it was in the 80s and 90s, right? Yeah. Yeah. I grew up in Memphis in the 80s and 90s, and the 80s and 90s were elite. Yeah, it was the best. I was born in 80, so I mean, there's nothing that compares from 80 to the 2000s, dude. Yeah, it was the best, man. You know, like, that's the best time. Like, I was just talking about this to my friend a couple of days ago. Like, I like watching these, watching these movies, are looking at these pictures of all of the, you know, not to. And some people look at this and be like, oh, why is he glamorizing, you know, drug dealers and this and that. But it's not about. That's your. That's how you grew up. It's not about the drug dealers. It's just about the whole swag of that. Yes. In the 80s, like when you watch the Paid in Full movie. Yeah. You see the troop jackets and eight ball. Jack. You remember the eight ball jacket dude jackets. Yes. The, you know, the Kango. The ambiance of. Of that generation was just insane. Yeah. And. And the old 500 Mercedes with the skirts on it. Yes, yes. AMG wheels. I mean, a lot of this stuff is still around and happening today. They just don't know it's modernized. Modernized. So, like, you know, like these Louis Vuitton and Gucci bag. It was the same designs back then. Yeah. So, you know, like, I grew up in that. My brother was a big drug dealer. He went to federal prison. How many brothers and sisters do you have? I couldn't find a. An answer on that when I googled that. Yeah, I'm still looking for that answer myself, actually. Okay, gotcha. I love it, though. Yeah, a lot. I got 6ish. 6ish brothers because my. My mom and my dad, they had, you know, kids, you know, separately. But I got around six, six, seven brothers and, you know, four sisters. Ish. Wow. Ish. But you're going to have a bunch of people reaching out to you after this interview. Hey, I'm your brother. I'm your sister. Yeah, yeah. Or ones that I notice. No, you got this many brothers. So, you know, I grew up in that world. I grew up in that world. My brother was, you know, in that world and, you know, all his friends. So I was a kid, you know, looking at all that. I'm looking at new Mercedes pull up, new Corvettes pull up to the house and this and that. I'm just like, man. And then I went to school down the street from this house of these big drug dealers in Memphis, like the most popular drug dealers in Memphis history. Wow. The house on. On the exact street that my junior high school was at. So you grew up around hustling? Yeah. Like you just saw it from every day. Every day. I Saw just a driveway full of Corvettes and Mercedes and this and that, you know, not at my parents house, but like my brother's house and the houses in the neighborhood. All these guys was in my neighborhood. What's, what's one of the wildest things you saw growing up in Memphis during that time as a child that I saw or heard about that like left an imprint on you. Something that left an imprint on you. Oh, this guy, this guy got killed for 34 in a, in a, in a, in a dice game. Oh. Upstream my auntie house. That right there, that, that right there let me know that people would do anything for anything. Wow. What a life lesson to take with you a young. As a young child. Yeah. I didn't physically see it. I was there. It happened up the street. You know, my family members started running this and that and people was running all that and I was like, what happened? They're like, you know, God just got. But that happened a lot in the 80s, you know, people getting killed over dice games. Man, that's a lot of people dead or a dice game. Yeah, no, all the boys, you walk around, you could walk around these two little cubes in your pocket. That would be your meal for the day if you knew how to play. Yeah, absolutely. I grew up in Vegas, so everybody had dice in their hands. All the boys had dice. Man, if you ain't got nothing. Yeah, you could make you a few dollars off dice. Yeah. So that dude that killed that dude over $34, he probably look in the man back then. Shit a fucking A combo meal was like $4. Yeah. So he had me. Had about a week's worth of food. He lost right there. Oh, man. Sad. That is sad. I hate that. That was right there. Said it for. That set the tone for me. How close were you with your brothers and sisters growing up? Super close. All of them or. Yeah, all of us lived in. I was, I was the youngest when I. When I was born, it was only two brothers still living in the house, but my sister lived next door and all of us kind of lived in the same neighborhood. So you're the baby. Yeah. I never knew that about you. Yeah, I'm the baby. I love that. The youngest in charge. Yes. Special Ed, what was your relationship with your mom? Because I know you've touched base on that a couple times. Yeah, it was real good. It was real good. You know, I live with my mom almost, you know, I was. I lived with my mom all the way up to the point we recorded our old three, six Mafia albums in my mom's house. Wow. Yeah. Not all of them, but like. Yeah, all of the underground. All of the underground stuff was recorded in my mom's house. So everybody met my mom, even some guys who I'm not cool with, who was never even a part of our group. Right. Been in my house at least probably one time recording. And met my mom. Everybody met my mom. My mom was super cool. Me and my mom had a super close relationship and my dad had. When my dad passed away, I bought my mom a house. How old were you when your father passed? Probably like 30 something. Oh, okay. So it was when you were older. Yeah. It wasn't when you were a child. Okay. Yeah. Both of them passing. I was in my 30s now. My dad in my 20s, my mom in my 30s. Right. Yeah. Was mom always supportive of your choice in doing music? Oh, yeah, yeah. Loved it. Used to take me to the organ lessons. I played. I took organ lessons. A. I love that. Can you still play? Yeah, of course. I still play on all out. All of my music. Where did your inspiration and your drive to want to do music come from? I I so we was the only. My daddy owned a company, so we, Even though we lived in a bad neighborhood, we was one of the people who had the better house in a bad neighborhood. Right. So, like, we was the ones when you riding through the bad neighborhood and you see. You see where they built on the back of the house? That happened all the time in the hood. Yeah. Like, instead of buying a big house, they just built on the back of the house. Yes. Shit didn't even match. It would be a different color, different material from the house would be brick. The back of it would be wood, whatever. Yeah. I lived in one of those houses and my daddy built on, like an extra few bedrooms and a whole nother den in the back for my brothers. So we had cable when cable first came out, you know, we had cable. So I would be sitting on. On the, on the floor like this close to the tv, watching MTV when it first came out. I remember when MTV first came. I wish they would bring MTV back. It just. The nostalgia alone. Yeah. Like. Yeah, but if they bring it back, they should just play. Oh, not. Yeah, I feel like there's no. We'll get to that later. But yeah, for sure. The music nowadays is just. It's not like it used to be. Yeah, it's some good music out, but, you know, it's just. It's different. Yeah. We're getting never, never going to compare. But I, I Was planted in front of the tv. Watching mtv, you know, watching all these guys. I grew up on rock music and I think that's what contribute to making the three six Mafia sound. And excuse me, the rowdiness and the wildness. Like Tear the Club Up, Hit A and stuff like that. It's. It came from me growing up on rock music. What was like your favorite rock band growing up? What were some like Van Halen. Yes. That's the first CD I ever stole. Was a Van Halen. And got caught. Was stealing a Van Halen cd. Yeah, I just bought a Eddie van. Had EVH guitar. Oh, dude. I got it at the house. Now I gotta hang up. I got a huge guitar collection. But that was, you know, Jump was one of my favorite songs. Still is one of my favorite songs of all time. The guitars and that is insane. Yeah, in a sense. And the synthesizers. Yeah, the synthesizer. Because a lot of these rockers back in the day, they didn't have keyboard players. They just relied on guitars and drums. But I liked when they added, you know, some keys in there. Yeah. Because I'm a keyboard player. Yes. So there was. That was dope on the end. We had the most beautiful time. We went and swam with freaking mana rays. Yeah. The amount of people who were like, how the did you do that? And I'm like, when you get there, it takes all the fear away. I don't know how to explain it. No, I. I literally when I saw everyone out there and the lights in the water, I was like, I can do this. It took me a second to jump off the boat. Yeah. So on the way up there, everybody's quiet, nobody's fudgeing, saying a word, looking at stars. We are. We are in the middle of the ocean, in the middle of the night. And we're just like it. I don't know if you've ever been out on the ocean at nighttime. It is fucking scary. Eerie. It is so. It is the blackest of black out there. It's crazy. But once we pulled up. So they had this roped off little area that isn't far from shore, which is crazy. We all thought we were going in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. They said 30 minutes and we all said into darkness. Yeah, yeah. And they tricked me. So I had told everybody, listen, I'm not gonna go on this. If we only go 10 or 15 minutes out, I'll do that. But I'm not doing the 30 to 45. 50 minutes later. 50 minutes later, we are literally get to the destination. I'M like, clocking it on my phone. The whole time I'm looking at me. How much longer? Yeah, she goes, it's already been 28. Yeah. Like, I was so bothered. But when we pulled up, the scene was so beautiful. Yeah. There was boats everywhere, and there was, like, neon lights under the water. And you could see these huge, beautiful creatures. They were just so happy to show off and be around humans. I can see why Moana's grandma literally became one of those. Like, they were so cute. And I told them huge. I told Mimi, I go, wait, watch. When we get the water, our energy is going to attract them. They're gonna come to us. And the minute we got in that water, dude, I looked down. There are two of them just coming. Like, one of them touched Andy. He got the worst footage. Love you. In the worst spot. Andy was literally squealing and taking. He was, like, trying to drown me because he's taking the wrath that I'm holding on to and trying to put his body on top of it. His feet are, like, coming up out of the water. And I literally kept saying, andy, hand me the camera, because he's a cool. And Jay. Jay's over there laughing his ass off like a maniac. He's like, it just touched me. He was like, just a little. It was kind of scary at times. And then. But his legs were so white. I was scared to be by Jay because I kept thinking that it was a man array coming up. Because his legs under the water one time, and all I saw were two white legs. Just, man, listen, I love my husband. He's a fucking different shade of white, dude. It is crazy. I lifted my head up. He's translucent. Okay. That's what was attracting him, literally. It wasn't us. It was his legs. They were, like, up to tell Haley and Bunny across from me, hey, there's one coming. And I put my face back in, and at that moment, it was right there. It just, like, skimmed my face. Yeah. So close. It did. Terrifying. Yeah. No, it was so spiritual, though. Yeah. Like to be in the. In meat monster soup. Isn't that what they. They call the ocean monster soup? To be in monster soup and watch these animals come up. They have this face that smiles at you and a vagina. Oh, I didn't see the vagina, bro. The mono. The monopus was real. No, I'm pretty sure it's in one of the videos. Like, when it came up, that thing was that big. Why lit right now? I mean that they out little pups. Oh, is it is that their butthole and pussy. It looked. I mean, we need to study the manta ray DNA. I didn't see it. I was too focused on their big ass mouths. They keep open the mouths were terrifying. Yeah. I was like, am I gonna go in there? Yeah. Scooping up the. The plankton. And that's what those lights do, which I didn't know. So those lights attract plankton, which then attract the manta rays, which, by the way, we call them manatees. For the good first hour. Yeah. Of this. I still think they're manatees. We thought that's what it was. Manta rays. And then they, like, they scoop up all the plank. They're kind of like whales. How whales just open their mouths and scoop it up. What if they would have gotten, like, Andy's foot? Oh, I would have cried laughing for the rest of my life. Of all people, if it. If Andy's foot had inserted. Freaked out. And it would have taken him down. Oh, my. Okay, we're take. This is. You overcooked it so hard there. So back to this accident, though. So what happened? Like, somebody just cut you guys off and smashed into you? Because this is. Looks really. They ran a red light. Serious. A semi. Is semi. Ish. I guess it was like a. It was a Penske truck. And. Yeah. Is this in. That was my dream car. I loved her. That's Regina George. Is. I love that? Is. Is this in a lawsuit? Are you guys, you know, suing? It was over this time. Okay. It's been two years now. Yeah. I can't believe that was two years ago. Do you miss her? I do miss her. Well, I'm glad you guys are safe. What happened? What injuries did you get from this? My face was insane. Yeah. Can we pull up a picture of her face? It's on your Snapchat right now. Yeah, but it's probably on there if you type in face. Oh, I like that. It came up when you. Oh, yeah, look at that. It was like that for a while, too. I. Right here. They never said that if it was broken or not, but they thought my cheekbone was broken. But I had, like, this weird dent for, like, the longest time in my face, like when I would smile. And sometimes it actually still hurts. But my face was like, mainly the issue. Like, I was bruised and everything all over. But then Kaden, like, really messed up his elbow and had stitches and stuff. Yeah. But it definitely could have been a lot worse. Way worse. Right. Especially getting hit by a Penske truck. That's crazy. Yeah. They Were like, you guys should have been dead. Wow. Definitely should have. But then there's, of course, people that thought I was drinking and driving, but obviously I would have been arrested. Yeah. Kaden was definitely hammered. Yeah. But he wasn't driving. Oh. I started watching Tell Me Lot, Tell Me Lies. What is that? I don't know. It's. It's steamy. It's kind of steamy. I'm only on, like, episode three. I love a good steamboat. You would like it. It's kind. It's kind of steamy. And then I also watch School Spirits. I don't know if you watch that fire. It was on Netflix, but the full thing is on Hulu. It's basically about this girl that died. And when you die, like, your body. Your body, I guess your soul stays where you died. So, like, they're in a school, so then she all of a sudden is seeing other people that had died in the school. But they'll be from, like, the 60s or the 70s. So they're, like, dressed how they died the day they died, and they're all from, like, different eras and stuff, and they're all still, like, trapped in the school. And, like, you can't leave the school grounds, basically. Wow. Yeah, it's a. It's a really cool thing. I would hate to be like, that's terrible. Yeah. And you're just, like, in the. You're stuck until you finally cross over. You have to, like, do something to realize how you can cross over and stuff. But it gets, like. It gets good. I feel like you would like it. It's like, groundhog. I can't tell. If I tell something, they're stuck in purgatory. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Hell on Earth, huh? Hell on Earth is what they call it. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Maybe I'll look into it. What about you Memes? I watched the Lorax the other day. Oh, okay. All right. Okay, Mom. Yeah. But I did introduce my kids to King of the Hill last night. Oh, good, dude. Get them watching Family Guy. Roger. If I could be a freaking cartoon character, I am Roger from American dad. Yeah, get them watching American Dad. I mean, not Family Guy. They put, like, literally, episode seven, season one, episode one, King of the Hill, on Classic. I think it's Netflix. Or it's Disney. One of the two. I think it's Disney. And I saw it, and I, like, turned it on. And my kids were so. It was really funny. They were, like, all over the place last night. We're just trying to get them to chill. Out. Tell me why both my kids chilled the hell out to some King of the Hill. I mean, I just kicked back cash is like, shirtless. Just. Yeah, try American dad, too, please. Yeah. Have you ever watched American Dad? Have you ever watched American Dad? Yeah, I've seen every episode. And why not? Roger. Yes. A thousand percent. The little wigs that can. Literally every character. Like, if I could just be. Just be like, how he is. Oh, bro, Family Guy. I'm. I'm a very adult cartoon person. That's, like, my thing. And so the American dad, the Family Guy, all of that. Yeah. Simpsons. Oh, yeah. I never got up. I did. Jay loves the Simpsons. That's all he used to watch. When we first got together, I'd be like, bro, that and Family Guy. Yeah, yeah, I remember. I can't watch Family Guy anymore, so I. I don't love it either. Like, I. I like it. I don't know. I can't watch it. I did love, like, Futurama. You guys remember? Oh, yeah. Rick and Morty. Also, like, I love Bob's burgers. I do love Bob's burgers. I love Bob's burgers. Such a good one. Olivia loves it. She swears she's Louise. So funny. I can see it. She's like, I identify as Louise. I can see it. Yeah, literally. And they were always like, danielle, what do you want to do when you get older? I'm like, I want to be an actress or I want to be a stripper, but let's put this in there before, like, I get it. I. Have you heard the intro to my podcast? I literally say, as a child, I just wanted to grow up and be hot. Yeah. Like, that's all I wanted to. I knew I could make money being hot somehow. We all want to be hot. Yeah. Like, we all grew up in the generation of Playboy and Penthouse and, you know, Hustler for some people. And it's just like. Hustler. Yeah. For some people. Listen, listen. We can't. We can't yuck anybody's yum. But, you know, Playboy and Penthouse, we grew up in an era where, like, Glamour, like, guest models, Victoria's Secret models were like, supermodels, not influencers. They're not. Not taking a dig. But I'm just talking like, it was a completely different time. Adriana Limas, the Anna Nicoles, the. Well, who's the girl from Guns N Roses? His ex, Stephanie Seymour. Like, beautiful, right? Like, we were surrounded by nothing but hotness. Beautiful, beautiful, sexy, unique looking women. Yes. Everybody looks the same like, we all look the same. No, I think you're beautiful. You're beautiful. Tina has to say those things. Tina, you're just so. I can't wait till Tina gets up here. She's a star. Yeah, we love Tina. I fucking love her. We love Tina. I mean, so I'm trying to argue with her and it's like, yeah, so the stripping. Yes. Grew up around beautiful women, watching beautiful women. She's so Bailey. So Bailey. She's so Gemini. I love it. But luckily I have. I speak fluent Gemini, so I get it. Thank you so much. I will reel you back in, baby. Sorry, I need that. I need you to reel me back in because I'm like, ah. I love it though. So I was working at Burger King when I first got to Philadelphia because Crystal, his sister, was making me work, which obviously you need to work if you're staying up at my house. You're a little kid. You need to work. You need some kind of structure. She couldn't put me to school. Whatever. And my manager was doing this little ignorant ass thing. He was watching me put onion rings in the onion ring box wrong. And he had everybody in the back of the kitchen looking at me doing it wrong. And then when he confronted me, he confronted me in front of everybody. And I was like, no, fuck you. I don't need this bullshit. You should have told me in private. You should have corrected me when you see me do it. And I'm crying and I left and I was just like, you know what, Sean? Like, I. I think I want to dance. I wanna. I wanna strip. I was like, oh, yeah, I can put you onto the rum keg. Like, I know a couple people. My niece. So he put me onto his knees, went into the strip club, and that was it. So they hired you. Did you lie about your age? No, I didn't lie about. And they still hired you? They didn't even ask me my age. Mr. Epps never asked me. And if. And I know there it's such a different era because there's a lot of people that know about the rum keg in West Philly. And I think we all were at some point in time under the age. Was it totally nude or just topless? It was. No, it was. You didn't take any of your clothes off. Wow. It was just like five dollar lap dances around the bar with clothes on With. With your little. Little like lingerie. Lingerie, yeah. Yeah. I was. I was infamous for my teddies in sportswear. 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Life, career, anything. I thought you're talking about the show because I. I got it. That too. If you want to talk about the show, I always talk to Chris Calico. And I always said when I accidentally tell a joke on stage and everybody laughs, it feels so good. I was like, maybe I should write some jokes. I said, I can't do that. You know, I can't be tech night and write the joke. And I can do it. I can do what the. I want to, but I never done it. You know what I'm saying? I think you could be a comedian. And. And it's like, when I come out on stage, what I love so much is that when they. When I walk out, everybody scream. Everybody's smiling at me. It's the best feeling. That's why when you see me rapping like Midwest choppers and I'm smiling behind the mic like. Because everybody's smiling at me. And it's just a beautiful feeling. But when I say something funny in the whole. You hear the crowd, I'm like, that is crazy. Now, I know Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart and all these people. Cat Williams, all these great people. Bill Burr, you know, I see. Maybe it's George Carlin crazy. You know what I'm saying? It's like. But it's like Richard Pryor, all of them. I see what they talking about. To make people laugh. Smiling is great, but to laugh. Yeah. Ask Jelly if he ever said something on stage and everybody laughed. You think he wants to be a comedian right now? That's all he hangs out with is what I mean. But I think it's because you guys have made people cry your entire. Yes. Careers with how deep your music is. What was me music we specialize in. Yes. That. Now you're getting a different response. And it's kind of like a high for you because it's something new. So if that was my last show, I'm walking off. I'm like, damn, it's over. I never fucking wrote a joke. I love that. I really love that. But would you ever pursue a career in comedy? Nah. Because you're a funny motherfucker. I write music so well, and, you know, I'm not that funny. But you are. I'm the Kind of motherfucker that gets on the elevator. And you know when you get up, when you put yourself in a box with strangers, it's weird. That's why everybody looks at the numbers, you know, as they're going down. They just watch that or go on their phone. Because it's weird being in a box with strangers, right? Especially with this stranger strange music, you know, saying, one of the cabos. So when I get on the elevator, I'm the kind of motherfucker to get on to say, okay, if I'm on a floor like five. And I was like, I would. I was gonna tell a joke. But by the time I'm done with this long ass joke, we'll be down at 401. Everybody will still laugh, you know, in the elevator. That breaks the monotony, right? I do it all the time, right. You know what I'm saying? Because I used to study like Rodney Dangerfields, like, take my wife and everybody would laugh, you know. Yeah, yeah, the OGs, yeah. It's like one liners, you know? I think you could do it. I think if you put your mind to it, you could actually. I'm sure I could do anything. Your delivery is so mentally I can do whatever the. I'll break down barriers. I've done it my whole career. Yeah, absolutely. But I never took the time to write some jokes in between my songs like I always said I was gonna do. Do it now. You gotta do it now. You gotta do it now. They're gonna. And then you'll have fans. Like, I didn't fucking come and pay for a goddamn comedy show tech. It was funny, but fuck that rap, motherfucker. No, I don't think so. I think as long as you're rapping in between the jokes, everybody's gonna have the best of both worlds, you know? I don't know. And so he didn't know that I even existed until he saw some papers about me having been adopted. And that was how he found out that she had had an affair and gotten pregnant. Oh, my goodness. So he was like, I gotta tell dad. And I was like, do you think she knew? Like, does she know you've been looking for me? Like, what does she feel about it? Like, can we go ask her? Like, we need to, like, tell her, where's mom? Yeah, like, where's mom in this scenario? And he informed me that she had passed away about four years before that. So I didn't get to meet her. And I think that was probably one of the darkest days of my life. So far that I've experienced was finding out that she had passed away. So to answer your question about my biological family, it's a long story, but. So, yes, my bio family did find me, but I've met my birth father and was not able to meet my mom. Well, I want you to know that your feelings are valid, and I can see you pushing them back. And I just want you to know that that was as sad of a story as it is. This is part of your journey, and this is what makes you who you are. And I know sometimes we don't understand why things happen to us, but in the long run, you're gonna look back and be like, okay, God, I see what you were doing there, as hurtful as it is, and I'm so sorry. You. It's a. It's a crazy story that I. That I didn't even know. And I appreciate you for sharing that here, because that's. That was really a beautiful, you know, testament of who you are. Thank you. I couldn't imagine how you felt that day, you know, finding out all of that, and then, you know, finding out that you have this whole other family over there. Do they at least embrace you now and do you have a relationship with them now? My brother is, like, one of my favorite, favorite people on the planet. Little nephews. Yeah, he's great. You know, I. When I was, like, 17, and I reached out to who we thought was my dad, and in our conversation, I had mentioned, like, so, like, who do you dance or do you sing? Like, I. You know, I love singing. Dancing. This is, like, my passion. Like, is there anyone that. Like, where does that come from? And he said, no, no. Like, none of us are really, like, into that. So, like, I don't know. You just must have a gift. And finding my bio. My bio brother and my dad, they're so musical. And my dad was a rapper in the 90s in Atlanta in a rap boy group and was doing musical theater. Yeah. I mean, wait, what. Can we know what group he was in? Oh, I don't know what it was called, but he says his rap name was Cueo. Okay. And then he was man in the little group Quavo without the V. Exactly. Quavo in the 90s. And my. My brother, like, shreds on guitar and is, like, a great singer. Like, it was just so funny how meeting my biological family was, like. Just makes sense. Yeah. And it. I never had this, like, an urge to meet the person who I had thought was my dad, but as soon as my Brother contacted me. Even being my half brother and not knowing he was my full brother, there was just like an indescribable magnetism that I feel like immediately I said, I need to go to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really interesting. And I'd never had that. Growing up in a family that's not biologically connected is. I'm starting to realize, is very different from. From families who grew up together that are biologically connected. Yeah, it's just something you can't explain. I remember the first. I didn't meet my real mother until I was late in my 30s. And when I met her and I saw, like, her mannerisms and just even down to her anxiety, I was like, how am I so much like you? And I've never even been around you. Like, it was the craziest thing for me. So I could only imagine how you were feeling. Yeah, I think I always, too. I always believed in. In nurture versus nature, just because I didn't have anything else to compare it to. I always thought that my adoptive dad is like an angel of a man, and I love him so much. He's the sweetest human being. And just like an angel of a human being, we don't literally don't deserve him. And I always thought, like, I want to be like my dad. And I feel like there's so many things that we have in common and we love the same music, and he taught me to, like, love disco and jazz, and I always thought I'm just like him. Like, there's so much we have in common. And then meeting my brother and my biological father, I'm like, there's no comparison. And when we're on the phone and my. My brother goes, you sound just like mom. Like, you sound just like your mom. And it's so interesting. It's so weird. And you don't realize until DNA is a. Yeah, it's crazy. And I feel crazy when I say it too, because I'm so amazed by it because of my life. But I'm like, y' all people who've been in, like, full biological families can't even understand how cool that is. It topped the family guy, you know, and stain. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Now we need you to find a douchebag at Goodnight, Nashville. My ex, security, he's been posted on. Are we dating the same guy? Nashville? Twice now. Three times, actually. No, three. And it's different girls saying, I'm talking to this man. Net. Whatever. And people are like, yeah, he has a girlfriend for over a month that he lives with like, a picture of him in Goodnight Nashville. Yeah. As security lives with. And so he's talking to multiple girls while he has a girlfriend. While he was texting me and saying he missed me, all this stuff, calling me, his mom missed me, blah, blah, blah. It started stopping, and then I was like, he's talking to someone. Because I know when you stop talking to me, you're talking to someone else. And I saw him at Goodnight Nashville, and one of the managers said, oh, yeah, that's his girlfriend across the bar. He walks in, sees me, goes to the other side to his girlfriend, and then comes over to me. Doesn't hug me, just sits right next to me. And I was like, hello? And he was just like, hey. And it was just like, so weird. I was like, okay. Like, it was just awkward. I'm so thankful to not be single in these times. It's rough. Golly, man. You guys. The you guys have to go through. I could never. I'd be so single. So I, I. Jay comes and sits outside with the cows with me now. Like, that's our new thing where we catch up with each other. And he came and sat down the other day, and we were talking about the most situation, and I was like, baby, I love you. I said, but I tell everybody if you and I don't work out, there's nobody else that I'm gonna be with. Like, there's. I just can't. He's like, I would hate to have to learn somebody else's trauma and have to learn how to treat them. I was like, there's no way. I'm like, you got family trauma. Don't give a. Don't tell me. Don't care. Don't care. We're here. Have fun, guys. You know, like, I just told them. So we looked at each other and then we're like, this is why we just have to stick it out. Because rough. It's rough on the streets. Hard out here for a p. I saw him again a few nights after. I'm waiting to see them. Same guy in Tampa. Because I'm on that to see. I like my friends. Post him. You should post him anonymously to see if any other girls come forward. Oh, my God. And what thread? And they're like, are. Yeah, the Florida. Are we dating the same guy? One in Florida? Oh, yes. Every town has one. Every city. Are you serious? Yes. Somebody post Jay in there. Do it. Profiles for shits and giggles, though. I will just for sure. Anyone know this guy? Yeah, I've seen him for a Little bit. Kill whoever ever. Stop. I would love to see the comments. Do you want me to. Cuz I will do it. I think not. Because I think anybody's going to say anything. Cuz I don't. But I just think it would be funny to see the. What picture am I going to use? Do. Do you have one that's like not a professional, like just like around the house type videos? We don't take pictures like that. Just Google one. Yeah, just Google one. Just give it a go. Give it a goog babe. Or take a. Take a still off of a video. But yeah, Mo definitely put them in. In one of those. Like. That's a great idea. Yeah, that's great. We gotta. You guys. This is the first picture that pops up, by the way. What is it? Oh, a jelly roll. Got it. Oh, a real jelly roll. Just letting you know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well you have to put. You have to put jelly roll together. It's jelly. Yeah. It's not two words. It's not two words. J roll. Totem pole. I think the art of writing music is so poetic. Like it's crazy how songs come about and like what is. What would you say that your process is in the studio for writing music? Do you have like a ritual that you. I need wine. That's. I need some wine. Yeah. It gets the emotions flowing, gets the juices, the creative juices going. Yeah, yeah. What's your favorite wine? I love saucers. Like I love a good French wine. Is it white or red? It's white, but I like a red when I'm like trying to chill. But I don't like red. There's nothing sexy about red wine. Your teeth get gray. Like, I can't do it. You smell. Do you like champagne? Do you like champagne? I do. I used to. I saw. You know, I'm sober now. I didn't know that. Yeah, girl. Thank you. I've been sober since 2017 off pills and cocaine and then 2018 off alcohol. Wow. Yeah. But before I was a great time. You got to experience that. That's. That's hard. It's hard. It is, it is. Till it's not. And I always tell everybody, you know, sobriety is a beautiful journey, but you got to really get real with yourself. All the. That you've numbed and masked with alcohol, pills, drugs, all that. When you don't have anything in your system that hits you full force. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I try to take time off here and there from drinking. Sometimes it gets. Here's the Thing too is like, it's everywhere, you know, when you're touring, when, you know, free, free, free, you know, and, and then getting on stage, you're like, I need something, I need something before I. So that's a hard thing to kind of deal with, but that's your process and when you're ready to. And sobriety isn't for everybody. Right. You know, like, so I feel like as long as you're not killing yourself and like disrupting your everyday life with it, I think that, you know, that's amazing. Congrats. That's. Let's circle back though. I heard you say that your father was bipolar. What was your relationship with your parents like? My relationship with my dad was not good. It had never been good. I was 2 years old, so I don't remember this, but he had a nervous breakdown when I was 2 years old before he was diagnosed as bipolar. And from what my mom has told me and my older brother can remember, it was a really bad time. He was very, very manic and had some very intense episodes and he was hospitalized for a number of weeks. So there's an attachment break right there, right. As a two year old. And key attach years are really from zero to five. And so there was this big stressor in my family where he was hospitalized for a number of weeks. And my mom was just trying to work part time dental hygiene and take care of these two kids. And we really didn't have very much money. I think when he came home, he was very heavily medicated. And he was then heavily medicated for many, many, many things throughout his life. And so he was not a very functional person. He wasn't really able to hold a job or keep a job. And that was a lot of instability in my childhood. And I think I had a lot of anger and resentment over kind of like, why can't you get it together to provide for the family? Because you just never knew, you know, you never knew when you were gonna get off the bus and come home and dad lost another job. Right. Or, you know, well, and you have to quit dance lessons or you have to, you know, we gotta sell stuff or we got to do whatever. So there was a lot of financial instability and then there was just. He brought a lot of emotional instability. My mom is who I would classify an attachment as more of a dismissive avoidant. So she was more of like stoic, emotionally unavailable, but very, very loving, very would do any acts of service. Right. She was, she was always around, very instrumentally supportive, but she didn't really know how to navigate the distress and the emotions of my dad's nervous breakdown and. And how to explain it to us or how to deal with it. And so my mom's just kind of like a push through, soldier through type of person. And my dad was very opposite. It was very, you know, he could be okay, you could walk in the room, and it was, hi, how are you doing? How was your day? Everything's good, or, you know, you left your shoes out and I tripped over them, so I chucked him out into the yard, and I'm gonna scream at you. Right? Or. It was very hard to have friends over because I was always really embarrassed because I never knew if my dad was gonna lose his temper or had to walk on eggshells. Yeah, it was very much a walk on eggshells type of situation. And just looking back into my childhood, I think every girl wants to have, like, the superhero dad, the dad that has it together, the dad that is can be relied upon. The dad that's gonna cuddle you and say, you're the prettiest thing, most wonderful little princess, and I'll always protect you. Well, they're our first loves. Yeah, they really are. And I just didn't have that, you know, I just had a dad that I saw made my mom so miserable, brought so much instability to our family, and I had a lot of anger for so many years. And it wasn't until he passed away two years ago, it wasn't until really I saw him on his deathbed that just. I had forgiven him, but. But I had to see him at that weak point. Bless you. Sorry. No, you're fine. I had to see him at that weak point on his deathbed to really say, okay, I can let it go. I can let that go. Because my childhood, there were so many great things about it. I was loved, and I had my basic needs met. And there are so many people that had it much worse than I did. I say the same thing. But your feelings are still valid. Your story is your story. So what's super traumatic to somebody else might not be as traumatic to another person, but that doesn't mean that you weren't traumatized. Right. Have you ever felt, and you know, people are knowing who you are, they're knowing your name. Have you ever felt trapped inside the image of Flava Flav, like, it's not you? Or do you feel like Flavor Flav is true to who you are? As I never got. I never felt like I got trapped in the image of him at all because it's. It's an image that I created. And Flavor Flav is a street character based off of my real street life. Right. So I never. And it's. And. And this is a character that I brought to life, but I never really got trapped inside of him because I always knew who I was deep down inside. And I'm the one that created that character. Yeah, absolutely. You know? Yep. So being in the music industry, you're around a lot of people who are shady. Have you ever encountered, like, some really big snakes in the music industry? And if so, can you name who they are? I've crossed some and I've seen some. But one thing about Flavor Flav, if you guys would know about me, I never have nothing real negative to say about anyone. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mind my business. I always mind my business, and everyone else minds mine. Yeah. Like that. You know what I'm saying? So you'll never really hear me talking negative about anybody or you know what I'm saying? All of the negative people that I've crossed, all of the negativity that I've ever seen, I never spoke about. I always kept to myself, you know what I'm saying? In the whole night. It's very G of you. And if anybody ever talked bad about me, that was their choice. But I never talked bad about anybody. I'm not. Not absolutely. So. So, yeah, but I witnessed some stuff. I witnessed a lot of shady people. Yeah. And I witnessed a lot of shady things. So after nations of Nation of Millions went crazy berserk, you guys shot a video where people were. Were really getting high in the video. How did you guys manage to pull this off? Wait, which one was that? There's a video, it's in my notes that after Nations. It's on. It's a song from nations of Millions album that you guys shot the video, and there was people that were really getting high in the video. Oh, Night of the Living Bases. Yes. Yes. Because back in the days, Pete, when people smoke crack, they would call that basin. Everybody was basing. Right. You know what I'm saying? So everybody. Everybody that used crack and drugs was. Was called the bass head, you know what I'm saying? So how did you guys manage to pull that off? So. So. So there were people that was really actually getting high in the video. And the reason why was because we were trying to create the look of reality, you know what I'm saying? In the whole nine. And back in those days, we could do that and get Away with it today. Never. You could never. Yeah, Public Enemy is known to be like, you know, so political and so like anti drugs, anti, a lot of things. But you were using drugs during the height of their career. How did that affect your relationship with the members of the group? But also how do they keep it under wraps? Or like, how did they not manage to get in, you know, get in some sort of scandal with that? Well, see, let me say this, Bunny, that's what made up Public Enemy, you know what I'm saying? The opposites attracting, you heard opposites attract. Yeah, yeah, you know, me and my husband. So Chuck D, the S1W's, Professor Griffin, all of them, they were in that political stage, you know what I'm saying? Not, no, no drugs, no alcohol, no fornication and all of that stuff. Supposedly, you know what I'm saying? The whole nine. But yet I was the only one in the group that was using drugs, you know what I'm saying? That was out there in the streets doing street things and everything, you know, so, so, so that combination is what made public what made up Public Enemy, you know what I'm saying? How did it affect the, the relationship with me and the members of my group? It was not a good relationship at all, you know what I'm saying? Because all of them were, mostly, they were against me. Did they try to help you though? Did they try to help you get help? Not at all. Not at all. They didn't try to help me at all, you know what I'm saying? We just lived going up, go, going ahead, going head to head against each other, you know what I'm saying? In the whole nine, even though, I just want to say, even, even though they, they did portray that type of life, you know what I'm saying? But not everyone lived it. You know what doesn't belong in your epic summer plans? Getting burned by your old wireless bill. While you're planning beach trips, barbecues and three day week, your wireless bill should be the last thing holding you back. That's why I made the switch to Mint Mobile. With Mint, you can get the coverage and speed you're used to, but for way less money. 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So let's talk about your Coachella performance, because that actually went viral too. You looked so adorable. Thank you. Body looking fucking sn matched, baby. You looked so good. And then you had all these hot dudes lifting you up and, like, you're singing. Take me on this journey of your Coachella performance and actually getting invited to perform at Coachella. Yeah, dude. It's definitely been, like, one of my favorite moments of my career. I. I went through that entire weekend, both weekends, just feeling so, like, grateful. My mom was there, my little brother was there, and I think something about having the people that I love the most just being there just made it so. I don't know. I felt very connected to my inner child, but I was also so nervous. It was my first time, like, doing choreography, and I did, like, cheer stunts on stage, which is something I've always wanted to do, but I don't know. It was an incredible experience. One of my favorites, like, moments, for sure. It looked really cool. How much practice had to go into that? Or is that just. Are you just naturally? Because I. I know you did cheer, right? So is that, like, something that comes easy for you? Because my big ass could never get up there and have people lifting me up like that. There's no way. Wait, have you ever done stunts? No. Built for stunts. I feel like you could do stunts. No way. You're tiny. You're like a tiny, cute little package. There's no way they're flinging my big ass around. Okay, I'm gonna get you to do it one day. They're gonna need some big ass buff dudes to handle all this. All right, so was there a lot of practice that had to go into that? Yeah, it was. It's definitely. Definitely doesn't come natural to me. I like, it takes a lot of preparation. I think we did rehearsals for about a week and a half maybe. That's amazing, though, to be able to, like, I wouldn't be able to do that. I'm not. I can't even do a tick tock dance. So to learn something that you have to sing and do on stage in a week and a half, that's pretty good. It was definitely really nerve wracking. I. There was a point, like, midweek when I was learning all the choreography, and it was my first time also having dancers, so I was, like, nervous to, like, learn how to dance in front of people who could dance really well. Right. I was, like, really anxious about the whole thing. It's Something about like dancing on stage, I. Makes me so. I was so, like in my head about it. So that was hard. And about halfway through the week of rehearsals, I was like, holy shit. I'm like, not gonna remember this. So I went home and started, like, just drilling it. But it was definitely harder than I expected it was going to be. Well, you crushed it. And I thought you looked so good. Thank you. I was rooting for you. I saw all the videos. I was like, go, Jesse. Oh, thanks, Bunny. And then you got to bring Co out, which I thought was really cool. Tell me about you and Co's friendship. Ah, dude, I love company. He's like a brother to me. I. I've been a fan of his, like, for a long time. My brother listened to him a lot growing up, so he put me on and we like, worked like two, maybe three years before High Road actually came out, I think. Yeah. So we were just kind of homies. And then High Road came around and we did that together. But it was really funny. He came out for Coachella and something. Something happened in our system during the song. Song. And the key changed randomly when he, like, started in the chorus. Oh, no. I felt so bad because he was just singing like normally. And then the key changed so it looked crazy. And then I. People couldn't see on the live stream, but when I came out with him for Stagecoach, my mic was off, so we were just cursed. Like, the song just kept being up. And then we did it at Billy Bob's and it was. It was fine. I feel like you guys have such lore that comes with that song because I even was like, like, I. When you. When that song dropped with your verse, first of all, it was great. And I mean, you know, it's great. And it's like all these CO haters are literally coming out of the woodworks just talking to you. And I'm like, bro, it pissed me off so bad that I finally just made a video. I was like, I'm gonna. That was really sweet. I really appreciate that. You don't need to thank me for that. But I just. I don't like any sort of bullying, especially ganging up. You're a baby. You know what I'm saying? I know you're 20 and you know you can hold your own and stuff like that, but I still look at you and I'm just like grown ass women, you know, are like picking on you. Yeah. It's like, that's not okay. How did that make you feel whenever you were going through all of that. Did you internalize any of that or were you able to just kind of like, separate church from state? I think it. It always makes me upset at first when something like that happens. That's like a human response, I think. But then it's like. Like, you, dude. It's just so annoying. And it's like. Like, I don't know. It does. But it bothers me the most when it's women. It really does. I don't know why women on women crime is. I don't understand. It hurts so much more. But, yeah, it does hurt my feelings. And I don't know, the guy thing, it's like, you're just a dick. But yeah, when it's a woman, it's like, damn. But I don't know damn well if any of these men got a chance to meet you. They wouldn't even know what to say to you. It's so crazy. I'm like, why are you. Why are you being such a. Such a. And it's just. It's really tough, you know? And I don't know, because you can't respond to everybody. And once you respond to somebody, then. Then other people do it just so they get a response. But that was, like, my first time dealing with, like, that type of situation because it was so much. It was so much. It was like a trend. Because once it, like, blows up on somebody's page, then they're like, yeah, this is the move. But I don't know, when it's about a song, it's not as bad when it's about, like, your own person. Like, when somebody is making fun of, like, you as a person, that's different. That definitely is harder to deal with. I love it. So how do you get. How do you go to school? Medical school in Panama. How does that happen? Well, it wasn't easy. Okay. It wasn't easy. I remember I was a little bit lost. So. So it was. There was a big event that happened my senior year in college and just didn't have the money to. To re enroll. And I was. I was kind of rolling around. What am I going to do? I'm never going to get this done. This is going to be horrible. I did that for a while, just trying to find my way. I audited classes while I took the MCATs, and I just kept spinning my wheels. But somebody I met in Miami when I was 21 years old, which, by the way, is a whole nother story. Oh, yeah. Miami back in the days was lit. Lit, dude. Oh, my God. It Was lit. Yeah. So good. Somebody in Miami said, why don't you just go to medical school in Panama? And I said, what? Okay. So I found the number, I called and I said, how much does it cost to go to medical school? And they said, 19. Oh, what? $19 a semester? Seriously? Can I, like, can. Where do I apply? Sign me up. So is it the same type of medical school that you would have in the U.S. yes, it's a little bit harder. Wow. Yes. So it's six years instead of four years. Wow. And. And 2,500 people at least. The year that I applied, 2,500 people took the psychological aptitude test. And if you pass that, then you could take the. The entrance exam. So 2,500 people applied, 130 people got in. And. And 30 of us graduated. So it's no freaking joke. But I applied. I applied, I got in. I moved to Panama and I lived with a friend. And of course everybody said, it's not gonna work. You're not gonna be able to do it. You're wasting your time going there. But I knew that that's what I had to do. And. And nothing. Nothing. Things distracted me for sure, but nothing could take that. It wasn't okay to do anything else. Yeah. It was just etched in your soul. Etched in my soul. So I lived wherever I had to live. Yes. Survival mode. Survival mode for six years. And. And. And finished. Wow. Yeah. So all six years, just trying to make it grueling, and then you finally graduate. Yeah. What happens after you graduate? Do you just instantly get into a practice? Because I heard you say that you were going to get paid by mangoes. That's what I wanted. Yeah. Mangoes and chickens. Yeah. Yeah. So I love that. You're like, I'm a doctor. Just pay me a mangoes and chicken. Bring me some mangoes. I love that. Yeah. Not the green ones. The space between my first and second semester of the last year of medical school, I came to visit my mother here, and I met the man who would be my husband. Is your family from Panama? Yes. And then your mom moved here? Yes. Okay, gotcha. Yes. My father is still there. I have siblings there, aunts and uncles. I have a brother and sister here year. But it was. It was love. And he tried living there. Didn't work. We moved back. And that lasted 11 years. Oh, yeah. No, it's great. No, I love that. 11 years is a good run, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a good run. Yeah. So was he a doctor too? No. No. Okay. No. So you moved to the U.S. what was it like doing medicine in Panama and then coming here to do medicine? Was it kind of like a culture sh. Shock? A little bit. It was a little bit of a culture shock. I was amazed at how much sooner things get taken care of here. So by the time a patient comes to the doctor in Panama, it is super far gone. So. Oh, no. Yeah. Breast cancers were. Yeah. Were super advanced. It's. It's just not a culture where. Where self care is a priority, maybe, because there's just not that. Not the availability, not the money. I worked at the public hospital, so it was pretty rough. So when I came here, I thought, girl, that's nothing. Right. I've seen it so many times worse. But we also had stuff that you don't see here. So pancreatitis here is usually from alcohol use, and pancreatitis there is from a scorpion bite. So, yeah, so I was always just a little off on my. On my diagnostic skills, and we couldn't. You're like, you've been bit by a scorpion right out here. Exactly. And, yeah, I was off for about six months until I. Until I caught on that we had changed latitudes that. Yeah, the. The tropical diseases that didn't exist here, that was a. That was a switch. And parasites are. Are so, so common there. Not so common here. Just big differences like that. But in a third world country, in a system where medicine is taught clinically, you have to put your hands on the patient, listen, feel percuss. You have to figure out what's going on before you order any imaging. So that was incredibly valuable. That was really cool to bring with me. Wow. Yeah. Before we could order an X ray, you had to know how high up the fluid was in what lung. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So that just made you, like, precision sharp whenever you got here. Yeah, yeah. Because you just knew what to look for. Yeah, that helps a lot. So, yeah, take me on this journey of starting your own practice. Because you said that you worked at St. Thomas, which is actually a great hospital. Anytime I had like, heart problems or anything like that, I would always go to. Go to St. Thomas. And they always did such a great. When I. They misdiagnosed me with a freaking brain aneurysm last year. Yeah, yeah, it was wild. St. Thomas is actually. Aren't they the ones who. The. The. The. What is it called? Vascular surgeon there was like, you do not have a brain aneurysm. And then I got a second opinion too, and he was like, you do not have a brain Aneurysm. And I was just like, oh, my God, thank you. But, yeah, St. Thomas is like a prestigious hospital. And what did you do there? So were you like emergency medicine? So I. When I came from Panama. So even if you've done a residency in another country, you have to do another one here. Yikes. So when I came from Panama, I applied to several residencies and. And. And the one at Baptist, it used to be Baptist. St. Thomas was the. Was the best fit for me, so I did a residency there. And. And residencies are generally July 1 through June 30. At the end of my residency year, I didn't feel like I knew enough, so I did a chief residency year. And. And by the time that year was over on June 30th was my last day as Chief. July 1st at 9 o', clock, I was in the office ready to see a patient. So during a residency, you can't have patients or you. Or you're under somebody. You're under somebody. Okay, so. So it's the residency, the clinic with the residents. But once you go from being a resident to being an attending, you get paid three or four times more. Not mango, chicken. All you. That's right. That's a lot of freaking mangoes. Yeah, it's a lot. You get a lot more mangoes, but it's all you. You can't turn around and go, what do you think this is? So it's all you. And I. I could not wait. So. Yeah. I love the tenacity that you have. Yeah. Yeah. It always had to happen, Bunny. Like, it always had to happen. There was no. There was no compromising. It just had to happen. I love that. So when you finally get to see your first patient, what's the diagnosis? What. What happened? Listen, I still, like. I feel like if I could look that chart up, up and apologize to him. No, this is a horrible story. I don't think I should say it. We can always cut it. Okay, listen, because you gotta tell it now. Okay, I gotta tell it. Okay. So internist. So internal medicine is everything you can't cut out, Right? So blood pressure, diabetes, thyroid, anything you can't cut out is what I take care of. So most of my patients are either high blood pressure, diabetes, or thyroid. On the first day of my first gig, I was seeing other doctors. Patients that were being put on my schedule just overflow while I built up my clinic. Notoriously, internists are horrible at rashes. Oh, yeah. Horrible at rashes. So the very first patient, bless his sweet soul, was A rash. And where's the rash? Right. My very first patient with his sweet wife. Oh, no. Came for help with a rash on his. On his glans. And I remember getting his glans. It's the. You know, his penis. Okay. His penis. Okay, Gotcha. I didn't know. I thought it was butthole. I instantly went for. I instantly went for butthole. No, I wish it was the butthole. It would have felt better, like, with him facing the other way, you know, Buddy. I know that he could see it in my face when I went, yeah. And today I have the maturity to say, yeah. I don't know. But that day I just. Where does the rock influence come from? Because you guys, for being country, you guys have a pretty rocker sound. I think this is also a lot to do with where we grew up. Like, I grew up listening because I grew up. Guitar became my favorite thing in the world when I was like, 12. Who taught you the guitar? My dad. Our dad taught me some chords. My cousin Johnny taught me how to solo, or my Uncle Bill taught me a little bit. It was a bit of everyone. They wouldn't let me sit down with the family and sit around the table unless I would practice. And I was good enough to hold my own. So if there's a. If you want to get me to do anything, just tell me that. I can't, and I'm gonna do it. So. Just sat in the other room practicing. Practicing, practice. You can't paint my house. Yeah. Yeah. Damn it. And, yeah, I do a lot of things out of spite mostly. But anyway, so I did that. But I was obsessed with, like, guitar and rock music is just, like, go hand in hand. And we grew up listening to the country. I rebelled against that a bit because it was like, what our whole family listened to. And my early teenage years, I was like, love Nirvana and Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots. Like, that was an iconic time. My first concert was Stone Temple Pilots. Oh, my God, I fucking love Stone. I don't think there's ever. There hasn't really been anything quite like it since A complete change. Why do you think that is? That we can't recapture that sound? Because now you have to be on tickets tok to be famous. Well, I also think too, because back then there was a. There was a lot of counterculture going on. Like, the 80s produced, obviously, some great pop rock music that we all know and love. But there is this counter revolution to that where it became these bands out of, like, California all the way, which is where STP Is from all the way up to, like, where Pearl Jam and Nirvana, all the way up on the far west coast, and they wanted to be the anti that. So it became less about the spandex and the big, loud pop songs, and it became about like, the grit and the grunge. And I feel like things have kind of become so, for lack of a better word, a lot more pop in the rock world. And it never has really cured itself again of that to get back to where it once was. But it was a really pure ear. I mean, every band, I mean, you definitely see that happen a lot little in country music now for sure. See it now in country more than ever. Things got super, super polished and slick, and now people are really appreciating things that are raw and real and, you know, like your, your husband, for instance, you know, someone that is just themselves. Yeah, Unique. It's like being unique should be rewarded, you know, and it finally is, I think in country music. Everyone's wanting each artist to be really special in themselves. And I think that's great. That's what music said it's healthiest. I feel like you guys are kind of the trailblazers for being unique because maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I, No, I, I, I definitely feel, know you guys came in on the scene and you guys were just. Did you. Okay, so you, you guys came in on the scene and you guys were like, you know, pretty like rock country, and like, you guys were still finding your sound. Did you feel like whenever you guys came on the scene that you guys had to kind of tone it down a little bit whenever you came into country? No, I mean, it's weird. I mean, I guess, you know, if you were to circle all the way back to just like, again, being from Maryland, I feel like we just always have kind of been in this space of like, Maryland. It's not really the north. It's not really the South. Like, you know, it's just. What is it? No one seems to really claim it. And so, you know, I feel like it was kind of that way with us musically. I mean, we grew up there. I didn't really honestly know what genres were for a really long time in my life. I just knew the music I liked and I didn't like. And predominantly what I was influenced by and what inspired me were, was country music and rock, like, particularly classic stuff. And so, you know, as we came down here, we just started doing our own thing. But I felt like for the longest time, like I was getting hired in town before we met a bit as a demo singer, and then people stopped hiring me because they're like, oh, you don't sound like anybody else. Like, you don't. We're trying to pitch this song to Blake Shelton, and you don't sound like him. So. And then I was really irritated with myself, honestly. I felt like, God, I don't have the chops to be able to make money as a. As a demo singer, to pitch songs to people. People. And then it's something at some point in time kind of flipped in me, and I realized, like, well, you know, I'm just going to start singing my own music. And then it started. There was like a moment even still, once we had a record deal and we're out working our music out at radio, there was a lot of times because we were. We sounded unfamiliar, Our songs wouldn't test. And so then again, we were kind of in the same boat of like, well, we like you guys, but we didn't sound like all the people that were hitting really hard and familiar, like Luke Bryans and all these people. And so. But again, it was like, do we want to follow kind of what everyone's doing and already winning with, you know, our manager, you know, was like, you know, it's like the best if you're not first. The best you can be a second. And so we really were like, you know, we just really focused on what it is we're doing. And I think, you know, I've been thinking a lot about this recently because there's, like, so much, like, turmoil in, like, what country music is. That's not country. This is country. Or that's cool. This isn't cool. And it's annoying to me for the main reason of it's not what music is for. Like, it's just. It's not what it's about. And it's almost had been a great reminder for me to be like, man, people want to just listen to music to, like, party or if they want to cry or if they just want to feel nostalgic, you know, or whatever. Ever. Yes. No one's thinking, man, I'm gonna listen to this because this is going to make me cool as. Yeah. Or I'm gonna listen to this because now I'm a country person now. Right? It's like, it's just totally not important. And so I feel like for us, it was like focusing on what, you know, what is it that we like and our fans like and finding those people. And it's taken us a really, really, really long Time to do it. And, God, I felt like we just have been passed so many times by other new artists, and we've just been kind of in our lane just doing our thing, saying, I feel like slow and steady wins the race, though. Yeah, well, I don't know if we, you know, we certainly, you know, aren't the. The biggest artists that. That's ever happened in this business, but we're still here, and we've been doing it for a while, and I don't foresee us going away anytime soon. And I really attribute. Attribute that to going out and making real fans that did like what we were doing because it was different. And so, yeah, that's still. It's still kind of our. Our. Our mantra and our goal and our inspiration with all of it. Absolutely. I think that's exactly what you have to do because, you know, like I just said, Sloan, steady wins the race because you're building that core fan base of die hards who really ride with you. And that's so much more special than these people who'd kind of, like, make it overnight because their fans don't really know them. Exactly. So whereas your fans just consume everything and love you guys for the people that you are as well as your music. Totally. And, you know, and then you feel a sense of, like, being loyal back to them. Yeah. You were here the whole time. Like, I don't want to switch this up when you were in the 11th hour, like. Right. You know, this is any person I don't want to let down. It's the fan that started with us from the bottom who finally, once we started having success, was able to be, like, I told you, like, these. These are my guys. I believed in you. Yeah. And there's a sense of pride there. And we want to do good by those people, you know, particularly them. And then also our family, everyone that was just, you know, there when we weren't shit. So I want to circle back to 2022 after you came out the Silver Lin. You guys did your song Younger Me, and you guys won a Grammy for that. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. That is a. An accomplishment because some people go through our whole music careers without winning a Grammy. I know. It was. We had. You know, we had had the wonderful privilege of being nominated quite a few times. And, in fact, I always joke that it's somehow. I think the. The amount of times we lost is more impressive than the one time we won. But I, you know, we. It was really. I felt, like, serendipitous because that Song, it was kind of like, you know, a lot of times you're writing songs, you're thinking about like, okay, where am I gonna play this? Like, are the fans want to like it? People can sing along here. Is it going to work on radio? Is it going to. And that song was just solely like, this is something that I need to say. And it kind of came out of nowhere. And John felt like in his setting that it was awesome. Also applies to him. And, you know, and for those of you who do not know something younger me, it's like, if you could talk to your younger self. Like, I think all of us feel this way. Like, oh my God. You know, like the. The heartbreak and how hard you are on yourself and. And just to be able to look back and be like, man, like, you're gonna make it and you're gonna. Like, how you turn out. Like you're. Everything's gonna be great. You know, like, if I could just go back there and talk to my younger self, it'd be amazing. Yeah. And that's kind of what the song, the inspiration for that song was. And we had just released. Because when I did come out, I didn't want it to be around any promotion. I'm like, I don't want this to be opportunistic. Like, I don't want to be a record, I don't want to be a tour. But there's always. I mean, amazingly, there's always shit going on in our lives. Yeah. So we just released a record and I was like, okay, then that came out. So then I was like, well, I want this song to be out. I don't want to wait for the next record that might be years from now because I probably won't want to say this then. And so we re released our Skeletons album with that song on it. And while it wasn't a song that we like, worked for radio or wasn't this hit or like this thing that made us probably really any money necessarily. I don't. Probably a little. It was just, I think the impact spiritually or emotionally and the connection to the fans and it felt really like this is just like a little nugget of reality here, just some real shit. And it felt very serendipitous at that moment because I had been to the Grammys at this point probably, I don't know, maybe this might be my. At that time, maybe 10th year going or close to it. And I never once brought a date to the Grammys. And so it was. You can look up me giving My speech. I'm emotional mess. I'm crying because I'm like, I'm at this award show accepting my first Grammy Award for a song that was inspired by me coming out. And it's the first time I've ever brought a date to the Grammy Awards. I got goosebumps. It was. Yeah, it fucked me up. I was like, you know, and then I'm there with my brother. Then it felt like we were like, you know, there's a picture like we had our arms around each other walking down the aisle to get on stage, and I just see like 8 year olds, John and TJ, just like little boys going up there. And it was like there was so many things. I was like, oh, my God, like, we did it, you know, but also doing. Doing it for something that was important and not for the money, you know, and it was. It just was. It was perfect. And I was a. Yeah. Emotional dumbass. You also talk about having OCD as a child too, which I suffer from OCD and I talk about it on the podcast. So when I read that you had said that you had a fear of. You had rituals and you had a fear of contamination, I was like, I relate to that so much. Like, if I open a water bottle and I take my eyes off of it, I have to have a whole new water bottle because one. Do you. Is that contamination, OCD also? Well, I think it's the fear of germs. I mean. Well, mine's drug related. Or getting poisoned. Right, right. Or drugged. Yes, drugged. Yeah, that does happen. No, it happens all the time and you can't. I just don't trust people. I don't either. Where do you think your OCD and childhood came from? Because that's, you know, normally that stems from some sort of something that has happened, you know, like, I know mind stems from abuse and just. I grew up in a very abusive household, so my OCD started at a very young age because of that. Where do you think yours came from? Well, my parents were. My whole family was insane. You're right. No, same. I mean, insane. Yeah. I mean, really seriously crazy and. But you know, because of PTSD and horror, so they didn't know what the hell they were doing. But like our house, I mean, you wouldn't believe it. It. It's just too crazy. Right? My parents, all they did was make out. The two of them made out and they had four kids and they just. All they did was make out, which gave me a repulsion for human sexuality, of course. Oh, no, it was Disgusting. I remember. When was it regular making out? Oh, yeah. Like, he'd come home from work and she'd be standing there in front of the heat. She'd turn on the heat and it took me a long time to put it together. She have this penoir set. All of us would just be sitting there and she stand in front of the heat. So this penoir would billow out there. She'd have these ruby red lips on. She looked like Liz Taylor. She was the beauty of. She was like the only beautiful Jewish girl in the whole town. The rest of them looked like Ruth Buzzy. But anyway, My dad was the only Jewish football hero ever in Utah. Or the world, I guess, but. So he'd come through the door and she'd be there with the ruby red lips. And he'd come home from work and she'd be there all billowed out with the pin worn. The red lips. And. Oh, it was so gross. And Daddy, he'd go, well, hello there. And then he'd rush to her like Clark Gable or some hideous thing like in some movie. And then kissing. They'd just always be kissing. Oh, it was just sickening. I hate that because me and my husband make out all the time. So I wonder if our kid feels the same way. Oh, I'm sure they will. They do. I'm sure they do. Ask them. We do all the time. She's always like, you know, she's so used to it now because we just. But I mean, we're not like full on, like, swap and spit, but we're very affectionate with each other. So I just hope it doesn't send her on a path of being repulsed. Sexual behavior in any sort of way. Well, the other ones all went gay. Oh, no. So, you know, I don't know. They were probably repulsed by heterosexuality, but, you know, it just. It was all. So Daddy was always trying to kill us kids so that he could just have mom by himself. Oh, no. But he wasn't conscious of the fact that he was always trying to kill us. How would he try to kill you? Well. Well, we didn't have any furniture or anything because Daddy said I could live in a tent. I don't need any furniture. I could live in a tent. A man is owned by the things he owns. He'd say. All that kind of crazy commie shit, you know. We were like, dad, we have no place to sit or do our homework. Yeah, you don't need any. You know. So mom finally went to therapy and. And so she said we're going to have a regular house, right? You know, so anyway, she says he's going to remodel. So he strips all the wallpaper off the walls with the kerosene thing and he leaves it on and he's smoking in the house. And. Yeah. And so the neighbors. The neighbors call the cops and they come over there with the welfare and they go, Mr. Bar, do you realize you've stripped all your wallpaper off and you have kerosene. He never threw the wa. Wallpaper out either. You have kerosene soaked rags in your home with cigarettes with four children. He goes, I'm sorry, sir. It never occurred to me that that was a bad thing to do, sir. Oh, my God. My dad was horrified because it never occurred to him, right? So, you know, that kind of thing. They go, you have 48 hours to clean this up or we're going to take your kids out of this house. Oh, my goodness. So they leave. My dad comes over, he slaps him across the head. Get cleaning this place up. No. And then we'd have to go down to get our clothes to go to school because we only had two towels for six people because dad didn't want to spend any money on towels. But anyway, we have to go in the laundry in the dryer to get our clothes for school. And above the dryer was a naked light bulb that you had to stand in a puddle of water to screw in before you get your clothes out of the dryer. Oh, my. Every day we'd go down to get either a towel or our clothes and we would get like a horrible shock. And it was like, we'd make fun of it. Us kids would go, wake up, brush your teeth, eat breakfast, go down, get 300, you know, microwave, shock, get your shock therapy, get your lunch. And then, you know, they said we just laugh about it. Nobody said, it's dangerous to have your children stand in a puddle of water and screw in a light bulb on a wired hanging down. That is insane. And it was always like, there was all, like all booby trapped crazy shit. But no wonder you had ocd. I could see. I could see all the trouble right now. I would do everything five times. Cause I knew if I. Because sometimes I do things twice. And then I would recognize the pattern of something's horribly wrong is going to start a fire. And Right. So I always have to do everything five times to make sure, like, the door was locked. Because sometimes they leave the door wide open when we went to sleep. I have to go down and check, check Check, check, check. But they got better. My parents did get better. Good. Well, I'm happy to hear that. So I learned some cool facts about you in your childhood that I actually had never known about you. Can we go on this journey? Yeah, let's do it. So you were a military kid? Yeah. Yeah, take me on that journey. Because it says that you were, like. You lived in Germany, Japan, and the UK growing up. Yeah, I was born in North Dakota, so my parents were cold as hell when they had me. Right. Yeah. North Dakota is, like. It's crazy out there how cold it is. Brutal. Like, I went back for a few shows and shit, and I don't know, we might have been there in, like, June, but it still felt like it was, like, December. It never gets warm there. Yeah, no, it's crazy. We've been there on a few shows, too, and I'm like, what the fuck is there to do out here besides have kids, have babies, literally. Yeah. And be in the military, I guess. Yeah. But. So my parents, they. My mom is from Pittsburgh, and my dad is from New York, so they met in basic training, which was away from both of those places. So when they had me and my older sibling. My older sibling was born on Guam, and I was born in North Dakota, which is, like, two totally different things. And then for the earlier part of my life, yeah, I moved around a lot. A lot. I did live in. In Europe for a while. I lived in Japan for a while, lived in a lot of Southern states. And my mom being from Pittsburgh, that's how I ended up going back there. And that's where a lot of my roots are at my real family. And that's why I spent the majority of my time, like, going to school and stuff like that. But it was really cool, like, experiencing living all over in different countries and different states and things like that. Absolutely. Like, how that had to have, like, shaped a little bit of. Of. Well, actually, a lot of, like, how you look at life. Absolutely. It definitely exposed me to a lot of different cultures and a lot of different ways of life, and I got to experience it young on a personal level because I was meeting a lot of kids and just, you know, mingling with them. And now, as an adult and really being able to go back and dive into these cultures and experience them as, you know, a grown man, it really, like, broadened my mind and just opened me up to a lot of different things. Things that if I didn't have that, I would. I wouldn't have been, you know, where I'm At. I thought that was such a cool fact about you, cuz I didn't know that. And I was like, that's actually really cool that you're like so cultured. Yeah, it's super cool. And like all the base kids around the world, they feel like a connection with me cuz like they're like, oh, Wiz is one of us. Yeah, yeah. Cuz moving around a lot as a child has to be hard, you know, like, because you kind of don't have a sense, sense of feeling like belonging anywhere permanently. It's, it's that and then there's like a lot of anxiety like from always being the new kid. Cuz when you're, when you're younger, the concept of making friends, you want to just have friends forever, right? But you have to like make friends and then leave them. So that be the hard part is like, oh, I've known you for like two, three years and now I'm never going to see you for the rest of my life. Oh, are there any friends that you have kept in contact with that you met? I do, I do. I have a couple friends. My boy Tyrese from, from Oklahoma. My partner Zach, he came to see me a couple times. My partner Wesley, he live in North Carolina. I haven't seen him in years, but I still remember that fool. Yeah, there's a lot of. There's like girls that I used to date back in the day who'd be popping up and. Oh, I'm sure they do. They're like, hey, Wes. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, yeah, you ain't getting them days is over. No, I get that. I think it's a testament of who somebody is though, to be able to maintain relationships from childhood. Because I have friends from fucking second grade still, you know, so it's like it just shows that you care and that you are able to keep those relationships going. Yeah, absolutely. Even like my friends from Pittsburgh, a lot of them are from middle school and high school, but we just got together for Will's bachelor party and we still kick it just on the same level, just talking shit, having a great time. And I really value, like you said, those relationships, it means a lot to me. Is it because people, they know you from before all of this, you know, they keep you grounded. Yeah. When you do it the right way, they seen you on your way up, they know that it didn't just happen overnight. Like some people, they might look at you and it's like a magic trick. But like you said, they know you. Like we were in class together. We rode the bus together. We went to school dances together. You know, those relationships are really valuable. I love that. Yeah. Every time I go back to Vegas, my girls make sure to humble me every time I'm there, like you are. We knew you before you were Bunny. You know, like, calm down. Yeah, you need that sometimes. So I read also that your parents divorced at 3. Where did dad go? And were you raised majorly of the majority of time by your mom? It was a even split. Okay. So my dad remarried, and he's still married to my stepmom to this day, so we're still a family. And then my mother, she went back to Pittsburgh. So my dad and stepmom were still in the military, and my mother was in Pittsburgh. So I would live with my mom for two years, and then I would go live with my dad and stepmom for two years. Wow. That's a different agreement. Normally it's like, every other weekend. No, they hated each other. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, they didn't get along at all. And it was the 90s, and there was really no concept of, like, how to, like, navigate through that. They didn't have as much talk about that back then as they do now. Right. So they handled it the best way that they seem fit, and that was that. Do you think that that plays into your role with how you co parent with your baby mamas now? Because now you have two. Right. You got Bash, and then you've got the. The little girl. Yeah, my girl Cadence. Yeah. So do you think. Think that seeing how your parents didn't get along back then was kind of like, you were like, I'm not gonna be like that, and. Yeah, that was a driving force. Absolutely. Making sure you had good relationships with the mother of your children. Yeah. I think it, like, subconsciously played a role, because to me, that was normal when I was a kid, like, spending two years with one parent and two years with another. But having kids, I could never be away from my son for no two years. Like, that's insane. So if I got to get along with his mom, if I got to freaking kiss her feet, I'm doing whatever I got to do to make sure that we're all on the same page. So that's not the agreement. And like I said, my parents did the best that they could, and I don't fault them for that at all. But I do know the difference between seeing. Seeing your parents function and not seeing them function. And I would much rather, you know, my kids see. See me and their Parents function. Absolutely. I'm an 80s baby myself, and I just feel like parents of that era, they were not ready to cope with their trauma. Right. They didn't. They were set in their ways. You were not going to tell them how they are going to raise their kids. And like, they were just, like. It was just. I don't know. I feel like we're such a generation of kids that are healing what our parents wouldn't. Yeah, absolutely. I think even just as a. Yeah, I totally agree with that. And I think as adults, our parents went through a lot as well. They had trauma, you know, before, but they were going through a lot as adults. Guys, this episode, we really didn't have a lot to talk about and we will have way more to talk about next season. Next season when we talk to you guys, we're just tired, burn out. We need a break, too. I said next season is going to be a little different, too. We're going to have a lot of like. Like experts on and like, yeah, it's gonna be a really fun season. I feel like each season has its own thing. I love this season. This past season probably was my favorite. So much fun. I like thinking back now when I was kind of going over this past season, I keep saying, like, oh, this person was my favorite guest. And then it'll be like, this person. The next episode is gonna be my favorite guest. Yeah, it's pretty funny. This last episode with Roseanne was such a good episode. Yeah, I love Roseanne. I love seeing the MC Rib. I cackled, you guys. She was like, they just never warn you when the McRib comes back. I. I feel honored that, you know, despite how the world feels about her, I feel honored that I actually got to sit down with her because, you know, she's. She's been around for a long time, you know, and she's kind of on her way of just chilling and finding peace. And I think that. I think we caught her at a really cool time in her life. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Because I didn't get the Roseanne that everybody else gets. I got like a very. I got like, you know, sweet grandma vibes. Exactly. It was so different than anything you've seen. It wasn't abrasive. It wasn't like, harsh or anything. You. You had such a soft side of her through the whole. Or through the whole podcast. I was such. This whole season just makes me so happy. Having tech on that was such a dream moment for me, Dude. Dolly. Dolly. I mean, this was such an iconic season. This Was like a turning of events, a turning of guests, and, like, leveling up. And, you know, the Patreon is still growing. We're at almost 300,000 members. Like, that's insane. That community over there is, like, the core human. I love all of this. I love. Like, thank you guys so much. Almost 7,000. Yay. If you listen to my podcast, I appreciate you. If you engage with us on social media, I appreciate you. If you are a member of our Patreon, I appreciate you. Like, I just appreciate this journey, that we're even being able to do this for as long as we have. We're going into season 10. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy to think that when I first started this podcast, I didn't know what I was gonna do with it. You know? Like, I thought I was gonna be, like, a sex podcast, because, hence why I called myself the female. I'm sorry, one. The female Howard Stern, but also the degenerate love child of Dr. Ruth and Dolly Parton. Yes. So, like, that was my whole shtick, was, like, just we were just going to have sex workers on. Oh. Even in the beginning, we. I distinctly remember a conversation you and I had in the beginning, and we had mentioned, like, men coming on. You're like, no, it's going to be women only. Yeah. And look how, like, transformative we've come. Like. Yeah. And then it was this. And then it was this. And is there so many. I feel like every season shows. Yeah, every season shows a different growth within it. Yeah, it's been wild. So, you know, who knows where the podcast is going to take us from here? But, I mean, we're just going to keep on trucking, baby. I love that we've inspired other people to create, you know, to keep going on their journeys, too. Absolutely. And even through the fire, with all the podcast boom, we've still remained just us and, like, you know, been consistent. So I'm hoping that, you know, everybody realizes that we love you guys and that this is really a passion that we have, and, you know, we're just going to keep getting better and better, and that's all. It's cool that we've been able to integrate Patreon into it now. We get a lot of. Yeah. I feel like the Asel Confess is huge. Yeah. So many people sub, and they're like, I'm literally only here for Asel Confess. I need to tell you this. Like, the messages we get in there, sometimes I'm just like, I'm literally laughing at some of the stuff cuz I'm like, you guys are so funny with it. Like one of the ones I was reading the other day, it was like, this has nothing to do with poop, butthole or sex. We appreciate you. Thank you. I had a guy stop me in Kroger the other day that was like, I just want you to know Askel Confess is one of my favorite shows. He goes, because you and those ladies, you guys talk about everything. It's weird because I have almost only guys talk about it too. At the, at my sister's wedding, a guy took a picture with me because he was like, I love AEL Confess. I was like, lot. Yes. It's so cool. It's like gotten a lot more dudes into it which I think are really funny. And like even Dustin's friends, like they're like, they talk about it at work. They're like that ass to Confess episode, it's hilarious. I love that so much. I love you guys and I cannot wait to be back for season 10 and we'll see you guys when we get back. Bye.