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Bam Margera
Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.
Bonnie
Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of money, and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today we have the one, the only, Bam Margera and his girlfriend, Danny Marie. What's up, guys?
Bam Margera
What up?
Danny Marie
I know. So excited to be here. I think she says the F bomb more than me.
Bonnie
I do. I am constantly cussing people mad at me. They're like, why do you say fuck? I said, because intelligent people cuss that's what we do.
Danny Marie
Yep. I love it. It's like my favorite word. When I heard your first podcast, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be fun. I don't have to think before I say that word.
Bonnie
I love that. What have you guys been up to? Bam. You guys been doing?
Bam Margera
We've actually been on the road. We met eight months ago and about six of the months, we've been all over the place. Texas, New Mexico, Florida, South Carolina, Indiana. Made our way down here and we just been enjoying the road trip. We have two dogs and. And soon we'll be making our way to California. But we have been booking a lot of comic cons and hor. Just because, you know, we've been doing so well at them. And I've been in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle. You could call the Guinness Book because It was like two and a half years at $660,000.
Bonnie
Yeah, we're gonna get into that later because I did. I did research a little bit of that. And I'm telling you right now, I preach it on my podcast non stop. The mental health system in America is broken wax.
Danny Marie
Especially in Florida.
Bonnie
Yeah, it's so bad. I want to let everybody know at home that since you've walked in here, you've literally had like a smile on your face. And that makes me happ. Because, you know, why wouldn't I?
Bam Margera
Look at this eye candy, dude.
Bonnie
She's. I was. When you were. I was hitting on her when you walked out, I was like, hey, baby, you are fine girl.
Danny Marie
Fine girls in here.
Bonnie
You manifested her, though. I heard on an interview that you manifested her. Tell me about that.
Bam Margera
Well, I was pretty much. I checked into the Sunset Marquee in. In Los Angeles, right on Hollywood Boulevard. I. I was just over everything. I have five lawsuits, a custody battle that is never ending. I'm just spending all my money on that. I just got three of my credit cards stolen and they all racked up 20 grand on each one. The last one was a stripper from. From Spearmint Rhino who racked up 20 grand in a nightclub in one night. How do you do that? That means every valet. Don't know those guys, but I'll pay for them. Don't know that crew, but I'll pay for their bottle service. How 20 grand in one night at one nightclub? Come on.
Danny Marie
Well, I worked at a strip club, so that's very easy. As a bartender, you can get all your girlfriend's drinks and there. There's the 20K, so.
Bonnie
Absolutely.
Bam Margera
So when I checked in, I. I saw. Got a whole bunch of drugs. And I was like, I, I really just don't even care to wake up. And if I do F you, God. So the next morning, I'm like, man, I'm awake. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go to the pool bar. You better, God, you better deliver me the hottest eye candy. I want a tan pitbull and a cup tits. Because, because my prior girlfriends, I. They always talk me into buying these fake boobs and they were always rocks. And they always say that they'll settle down within a year. And then three years goes by, I'm like, there's still rocks.
Bonnie
The one I want.
Danny Marie
They didn't massage them properly.
Bam Margera
So when I went to the pool bar, I ordered a drink, of course. And I overhear somebody talking. Listen, I'm 43 years old. I was born in Jersey. I'm Sicilian and Irish. I'm like. And I look over, I'm like, wow. Who's Cecilia Nyers? I'm Cecilia Nyers. I was born in Philly. Over the bridge. Who are you? She's like, I'm a stretch coach. I'm like. And she's like, I have to go home and walk my dogs. Like, what kind of dog? A tan pit bull. I'm like, thank you, God, I've been saved. And I was on a mission and. And you know, the doctor told me in 2013 that my legs were like dry rotted rubber bands from alcohol abuse. And he was pretty much like, good luck trying to skateboard again. Which is what my passion was. I've been pro since I was 17 and because of that, it just made me drink more. So when I met her, she's like, don't listen to him at all. I stretch you an hour a day and you're gonna get your legs back. And sure enough, they're like 100 again every day. First thing, first thing we do is stretch, walk the dogs, and then I'm out looking for a skate spot.
Bonnie
Yeah, that's what I heard. What was your first impression of. Of this hot mess over here.
Danny Marie
We were actually looking at photos today. I don't even. I mean, I don't. I mean, it's so hard to even say how it connected, but it was. I was invited by somebody who I didn't really know, but it was the Hollywood scene, you know, and later found out wasn't the best crowd, but I showed up by myself. My friend Heather, call her out, she couldn't make it that day, but that's okay. Went alone. And, you know, I didn't know anybody. And she sent me this text that was like, celebrities are here. I hate that. Of course. But my mom's like, well, I'm literally fighting myself cuz I lived in Koreatown, couldn't find parking. It was a disaster. So to leave your house in Koreatown is a big deal. You have to take an Uber.
Bonnie
It's just anywhere in LA is a nightmare, dude.
Danny Marie
So I'm like, is it really worth going? Like, she's already dropped a celebrity name, like, who knows if. Whatever. So my mom's like, well, you didn't go to LA to stay in bed, blah, blah, blah. So she put a little in my ass.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
So I got dressed, put on my little LA hat, and then I went to the pool party. And of course, how some girls can be. They weren't, you know, being very friendly once. This one. And I started talking. I do remember him coming kind of coming over, but I was alone, blindfolded, and just wasn't really wanting a date at the time. I just got out of something really shitty.
Bonnie
Did you know who he was?
Danny Marie
I remember, like, they were like, bam, Margera's here. I'm like, bam. I'm like, you know, they're like, oh, jackass. Like, okay, but we are the same age, so it wasn't like I was really watching it every day.
Bonnie
Like, Right.
Danny Marie
I hate to bring up ridiculousness, but how it's like constantly on the tv, you know, like you can't get away from it. So I knew, but I didn't really know, you know, the whole story type of fam.
Bonnie
Right.
Danny Marie
So when we, when we interacted, you know, the girls as they know who they are, had kind of like pushed me towards him because they weren't being bullyish, but they weren't being friendly because the one girl had taken a shower with him the day before.
Bonnie
Oh, so did you even remember that? Bam.
Bam Margera
Yeah, I did.
Bonnie
Okay. Because he was up, so you got it. I did a lot of when I was up that I don't remember, you.
Danny Marie
Know, so basically they just.
Bonnie
His face is turning three shades of red right now. I don't think I've ever seen you blush.
Danny Marie
He admitted it. I mean, he. At least he told me. And I'm like, okay, well, are y'all, like, dating? Because I'm single, It's la. Like, whatever. And I just. We just had fun. Like, we ended up going. I can't even tell you where. It was just some little place in la. It was like A strip club of some sort that was completely packed.
Bonnie
Were you using then or were you.
Danny Marie
So, no, I haven't. Okay, so we'll get into all that. But I was a drinker. I mean, I've had my share of things. I've been a model since I was 14, so I've definitely partied, lived in Vegas, lived in LA. But for me, I won Miss Bikini. I went through. Okay, so 2019, I had an ankle surgery which was mortifying. I lost my 14 year old dog and then a 10 year, almost 10 year relationship ended all within like a year. So I went through a really bad time. I was drinking a little too much, started drinking and then, you know, I started getting sick, like literally sick. And in the hospital I was getting alcohol poisoning is what was happening. And I just didn't want to tell anybody that I knew when I was throwing up what was happening.
Bonnie
Because you're like binge drinking.
Danny Marie
Yeah, it was just like, you know, rose starts at 10:00am and then before you know it, it's 8:00 at night, you know, you know, it's just sounds.
Bonnie
Like a good time.
Danny Marie
Yeah, bad. Just I was going down a bad, bad path. I was getting. After the breakup, I hung out with the wrong guy. He was younger than me and I started doing bad things again and then just really nipped it in the butt and just, just had to break up with a lot of people. So I ended up entering a bikini contest and didn't realize how intense it was, but I was already in it. I couldn't pull out. I wanted to because it was like I'd rather just have another cocktail and go, whatever. So I ended up placing fifth and I stayed serious that whole like four months of training for the bikini. So once I started to get away from the alcohol, I just quit completely. So I really haven't been drinking since 2021. But when I went out to LA, it was like a couple drinks here and there. But then I'd, you know, when you're not drinking, a couple drinks will get you buzzed. Oh, absolutely. So that was the day. Like I was in an effort mood it, mood whatever. So I was drinking at the pool that day. Yeah. And we had a great time. The connection was obviously there because as a person, you know, and the alcohol helped me kiss him a little bit, you know, make out. Bandit. We were FaceTiming Jessica.
Bam Margera
She still committed to the gym at 5am the next day and dropped a 40 pound weight on her toe.
Bonnie
Oh my God.
Danny Marie
I like shattered the TO and then I Wake up the next day and I'm like, damn. I think I made out with Bam. Like, I woke up like, the dogs are like, where were you for seven hours?
Bonnie
So I was getting railed.
Danny Marie
Yeah. Feeling rough. And then I just. I remember, like, wanting him to call. Like, I really wanted him to call. And I was like, oh, it's already 4:00. He hasn't called yet. That's weird. So something inside told me to take a shower, which I did. And I'm laying in Koreatown. And of course the phone rings and.
Bam Margera
He'S like, not from my phone because the stripper stole it as well as my credit card. So I called randomly from a number that had South Carolina area code, which is where she's from.
Danny Marie
Yeah, I grew up in Charleston, so 843. I'm like, where are you?
Bonnie
Poor Bam. Bam got his. His card stolen his phone.
Danny Marie
He was a hot mess that weekend.
Bam Margera
I don't even know if you know this, but then I. I saw this psychic lady who basically told me to be a yes man, say yes to everything. So I'm going to see my shop.
Bonnie
Oh, that's not. Don't tell Bam that I pull in with.
Bam Margera
I pull in with the Bentley to this gas station and visit to California because my phone died and I didn't know how to get to his house, so I had to charge it in in the gas station. So as soon as I pull up these M13 gangsters with their tattoos face and everything, they go, yo, you banned from jackets? I'm like, yeah. They're like, can we get a photo? I'm like, yes. They're like, can we sit in your car and get a photo? I'm like, yes. Like, yo, man, this thing must be fast. Can we go around the block and whatever? I'm like, yes. So then we go around the block and we're cracking jokes, and I park at the gas station, knowing that my phone's still charging, and I'm like, like, hang on, guys. I leave the car running. I'm like, I gotta go get my phone. They're like, all right, cool. So I go in. I'm like, hey, ma'am, can I get my phone? Like, she's like, I gave it to your friend. I'm like, what friend? I'm from Pennsylvania. I don't have any friends here. She's like, I gave it to somebody, but you gave my phone away. I was forced to call 91 1. So three cop cars pull up, and I guess they were all larried. Up on whatever, but they thought it was for them. So they took my car. As the police show up, not knowing that it's for me and my phone. It had nothing to do with them. This guy just got out of jail for five years for guns and drugs. And apparently he had guns and drugs on him. So he took my car. I walk out. There's three helicopters in the sky, and I hear from officer Bentley. I'll never forget. Bentley's been crashed in the house. I'm like, awesome. And I didn't want to press charges because I don't need these guys. After I tagged that, I'm at the vista skate park. Next thing you know, I'm getting drive by shooting. So ate the cash on that as well.
Danny Marie
I had no idea about that.
Bonnie
So why does. Why does. Why do you think this shit happens to you all the time, Bam?
Bam Margera
Because I listen to a lady to say yes to everything that day.
Bonnie
There has to be some level of discernment in your gut, though. You got to be like, no, maybe I shouldn't be riding around with these guys.
Danny Marie
I don't understand that one.
Bam Margera
It was just like, she just said it. So the first thing that. Just say yes to everything. Yo, Bam, can we get. Yes.
Bonnie
What was her point in this? I would love to talk to her and just be like, what was your point? Why do you think telling Bam?
Bam Margera
She's one of the ones who spent 20 grand on my card.
Bonnie
Oh, my gosh. So was she a stripper?
Bam Margera
No, she was a psychic. And then the stripper was next. And then a buddy was the psychic.
Bonnie
In the strip club.
Bam Margera
He had a tiny bit. No, it was not.
Bonnie
Okay, so that's totally different. Unrelated.
Bam Margera
My buddy was recording at sun studios in Memphis at Elvis's place, and he had a small bill to pay, like, three grand. So I gave him my credit card information because the label was going to pay it back. He gets so drunk that night that he spends 20 grand on sunglasses and jackets on my card and doesn't remember doing it.
Bonnie
It sounds like you're surrounded by a lot of people.
Danny Marie
Well, he was.
Bam Margera
And he's so broke. I think he has a payment plan of, like, $50 a month, which will take eternity to pay off.
Danny Marie
Well, that's why you're attracted to Bam, because Bam is funny all of the time. So it's never a dull moment with. With him. And it was like that. You know, people always. You know, he's. When he's not drinking anymore, but he's just elevated, and it's just funnier that we want him drinking, but. But he's not like a bad drunk. I mean, he's fun. He just gets funnier.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
So that's where the attraction definitely happened. I mean, who doesn't love a guy or a girl or whomever you're with?
Bonnie
Yeah, that makes you smile. Oh, I love funny guys. That's why I married my husband.
Danny Marie
Yeah. So, like, he just. I just. We died rolling all night long, and I just remember, like, really want him to call the next day. And then once he called and said, do you want to go for pizza at the Rainbow Room? I'm like, the Rainbow Room has pizza? He's like, it's the best.
Bonnie
Jay's favorite place. So forever in la. I'll call you guys. Because Jay, last time for the Grammys, he went and rented out the Rainbow Room and got faced and then swam in the pool or swam in the fountain at the Beverly Hills, whatever the we were at.
Bam Margera
So. So on our first date, I was. I really wanted to know, but I was just doing small talk, you know, I'm like, I just gotta know, how are your teeth so perfectly. Wait. She's like, because I brushed my teeth with your dick.
Bonnie
I'm like, I love you.
Danny Marie
That was after he had tortured me.
Bam Margera
For two days of somebody like you and your. Yeah.
Danny Marie
I was like, I can keep up with you. So it was cute. It was just like the Rainbow Room pizza. And then, honestly, Bunny, like, it just. I never left.
Bonnie
That's how it happens. That's how Jay and I were. Once you meet that soul partner, that soul connection, it's just like. It's like fireworks. And you. You guys are just together.
Bam Margera
I was in my turmoil of being over, and I was ready to just check out. I didn't care. Unless. Unless I. I knew she was the run right away. And I asked what happened to her. She's like, I had to flee the scene in Miami. I was dating a professional baseball player who was very abusive. And I just packed up the do. Just hit the road in LA was my destination. And, you know, he saw a photo of, like, us and Us Weekly holding hands in a little tablet thing with a purple dress on. He's like, I'm coming out there. I'm gonna find you and, like, hunt you down. And this. I. I believe that he died of a fentanyl overdose in Texas on the way here.
Bonnie
Oh, my God.
Bam Margera
Yeah. So she just knew that if she stayed in that relationship, it was not going to end well.
Danny Marie
Yeah, he wasn't a good guy.
Bonnie
How long Were you guys together for.
Danny Marie
It was. It was. You know what? If we ever write a book, it'll just be the booty call gone bad.
Bonnie
Oh, that's the worst.
Danny Marie
The first guy I slept with in years. So it was just like, wait, you.
Bonnie
Didn'T have dick for nine years with somebody? Oh, okay. Gotcha, Gotcha.
Danny Marie
Okay.
Bonnie
I was like, wait a second, how did that work?
Danny Marie
But he was like the first after the la, after the X. So it was just, you know, he was a professional baseball player and he just was, you know, rest his soul. Because we don't want to send bad energy in or in the air. Yeah, but he was like dating multiple women. Who?
Bam Margera
One of them, at the funeral, all the girls were like, who are you and why are you here? Well, I'm her boy. For how long? Nine months. What about you? Nine years. What about you? Two years. What about you? Like, that's how.
Bonnie
That's how athletes are, though. Athletes, musicians. Like, that's how. That's the whole, you know, that's their whole game that they surprised it didn't.
Bam Margera
Wind up being one big brawl with a bunch of chicks.
Danny Marie
But, yeah, he doesn't understand, like, sometimes the world doesn't understand that. I wasn't really happy in LA, though, because if you go back to LA, no offense to LA, I love LA. I lived in LA when I was 19 to 20.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
And it's just changed.
Bonnie
It's. I always tell everybody, Los Angeles has lost its sparkle.
Danny Marie
It really has. It really.
Bonnie
Back in 10, 15 years ago, that place was just like glitter everywhere, you know? And now it's like. Like it has no soul.
Bam Margera
And another thing is, like, no soul. You. You could barely get a one bedroom, one bath with no land near the beach of Santa Monica for 4 million or whatever, out here, you could have 20 acres.
Danny Marie
You know what?
Bam Margera
If you're so obsessed with the beach, just buy a nice pool, put a sandbox next to it. What a day.
Danny Marie
Yeah.
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Danny Marie
We don't know what we're doing. We're just trying to figure out what the best place is. Yeah, because he needs to be close to Phoenix. Me, I just need great girlfriends, some water and. And some sun.
Bonnie
Yeah, well, there's not a lot of water and a lot. A lot of sun here. Except for in the summertime. I'm a Vegas girl. I'm a West coast girl, too. It took a long time for me to get adjusted here, but once I did, Nashville is like la, but with a soul. And it's like your peace. Like, it's like everybody here is just so sweet and welcoming and loving and.
Danny Marie
Southern hospitality so healing.
Bam Margera
That's what I love about little towns like this. And in Westchester, Pennsylvania, if you're a bartender, you're just simply happy being a bartender.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
If you're one in Los Angeles, you are just simply trying to make ends meet until your big break of becoming a model or an actor or whatever it is. And everybody's so faked it. I. I just did a test with a friend because we were at a party. I'm like, just watch this. Yo, Ben, what are you up to? Oh, I'm actually gotta do Jimmy Kimmel because Jackass 2's coming out, which was true. And they're like, dude, we got to work together. Next person that comes. Yo, Ben, what are you up to? I actually just flew myself out here with my own money, and I'm kind of looking for work. You got anything going on? Like, good talking to you, pal. Like, if. If you're up to something, they all want to be a part of it. And if you're not, then it's just. It's really fake town is what it is.
Bonnie
No, it is. It is.
Bam Margera
It's.
Bonnie
It's definitely gone down the drain in the past few years. So let's circle back to. How are Phil and April doing? How's your relationship with them?
Bam Margera
Well, I just realized that it. Right now, it's just a good time to just back off and. And. And time. Because they were a part of the whole treatment thing. Like, I got a guardian just like Britney Spears, and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key. Put him in treatment. Put them in treatment. And I knew that that was not the way.
Bonnie
That's the Lima girl.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Danny Marie
And like Lima.
Bam Margera
Yeah. And her last client, Amanda, she. She faked the autopsy report. They did research and found out that she, she. She died in the care of her own hands of having a seizure. And I've never had a seizure in my life until I met her. I went into five of them in a row, and the last one, I couldn't breathe on my own. I woke up eight days later on a life support tube with COVID and pneumonia.
Bonnie
That's wild.
Bam Margera
So, like, all I knew is I. I had to. Once you get Marchman acted or Baker acted, it usually happens. In Florida, that means that you have to do 90 days in treatment. And if the interventionalist knows that you have good insurance, they will find reasons to keep you there for eternity. So because I'm like 88 days in, and I'm like, I get two in two more days I get out. Hip, hip hooray. Then he walks in, he's like, you've been rocking those same shorts for like three days now. I'm like, yeah, I'm not trying to get any around here. I don't care. They're like, that's bad hygiene. You're doing another 90 days at another place. Then I'll do 88 days at another place. Flick the cigarette out into a bush. They filmed it smoking like any cigarette would smoke. It was not on fire. Like you could lit the whole national forest on fire. You're doing another 90 days, another place. They just kept doing it and doing it and doing it.
Danny Marie
And it's called body snatching. Basically, it's the insurance toss you through.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
You know, and I realized that there's nothing that you could do to get out there. They will find. Yeah.
Danny Marie
Oh, yeah.
Bonnie
Once you're in the system.
Bam Margera
So I did everything right. You know, we're gonna keep you here for another 90 days. For what? I've done everything you've asked. I've been here for two and a half years. Get me the out. And when I did got out, I appreciated life a lot more. I'm like, like I'm in a car. It's a convertible. There's the beach. I'm in a Starbucks outside talking to you.
Danny Marie
They can't even hear music.
Bam Margera
Music. I had no interweb, no music, no tv. A little bit of tv, but it was just terrible.
Bonnie
Well, let's, let's rewind. So you feel like, you feel like April And Phil had something to do with the. Is it. Was it a conservatorship that you had?
Bam Margera
Yeah, I guess. Guardian ad litem. But.
Danny Marie
But did they hire the Guardian? So basically, she got hired from.
Bam Margera
From Nikki's brother. They all teamed up on me and. And said that he needs to go away for a long, long time. They talked my parents into it by, like, saying, yeah, 500, 000 is a lot of money, but if you don't write this check, you're gonna be real sorry when he's six feet in the ground, you know, making her. My mom, feel really bad about it. So she just got talked into this, and then. And Lima has such a nice voice that she could pretty much con anybody into anything.
Bonnie
Is she an interventional? What do they call those?
Danny Marie
She tried to, like, create rehabs and stuff. If you look up her. I try not to talk about her too much because she's listening to everything. And I don't care if she hears me today. It's about time she does.
Bonnie
But it's. If you're.
Bam Margera
I would have been dead if I would have kept doing what she was making me do. And she was making me say things like, I was in the longest Florida shuffle. It's a fact. It's called a shuffle. She's like, bam. There's no such thing as a Florida cycle. You have to do a statement saying that you didn't know what you were talking about. And I really went on. She, like, forced me to do it. Like, hey, guys, I know I was talking about the Florida shovel, but I don't know anything about it or what I was talking about. And I was not in the Florida shuffle whatsoever.
Danny Marie
Lies.
Bam Margera
How did she get definitely in the Florida shovel? I was in 13 different treatment centers at 90 days a piece, and one of them was 220. It's called a shuffle. They kept me in there for why? For no reason. I already know that alcohol is good, and it's not any bad. What do I have to do at the next class, learning alcohol's bad. It's not any good. I'm very aware of that. What are you gonna do when you get out? I'm gonna sip on a white claw because all y'all.
Bonnie
So Nikki's. Nikki and her brother hired this girl. Yeah, okay. This woman. And she came in and pretty much just like, took over your life and completely. 5150.
Bam Margera
The answer to everything is, yeah, 3150. Me. Me. And you know, is what hurts the most is that this chick. Very good. Friend of mine, BJ investigates. It's also called the Surprise Witness. She does a podcast.
Danny Marie
Surprise.
Bam Margera
She. She decided to buy every 911 call of me. Or did. I've done every body cam footage, every document, every house I bought and sold, every car. She just wanted everything. Why? Because she just wanted to find out the truth. She knows that something shady was going on, and she. When we looked at the body cam footage, my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it. I'm, like, hiding in a hotel, and then all of a sudden, the police show up. I'm like, are you in All. My mom's like, bam. I have no idea. I have no idea about it. Then as soon as I get handcuffed and taken away, she's talking to the cops like. Like, they arranged this.
Danny Marie
Well, the Aunt Missy or whoever she is, was like, tell him I'm not here. Tell it. When you watch it, you'll cry. I can't watch it because it shows betrayal from family, and I can't watch it. I was crying through, like, the third one. And BJ is a very good friend of ours. They don't like her because she's speaking the truth.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Danny Marie
And she's uncovered things that he was too up to realize.
Bam Margera
And. And you can't deny physical body cam proof, which is what she has. And documented proof. So she doesn't. BJ doesn't know what she's talking about. Yes, she does, because it's also in the court of law.
Danny Marie
She's a lawyer.
Bam Margera
She's a lawyer.
Bonnie
Yeah. So, okay, circling back. I'm sorry I had to cut you off in such a crucial moment, but that betrayal has got to be fucking traumatic.
Bam Margera
Yeah. And if my mom is able to say that for a whole year, she's like, bam. I swear I had no idea about it. And then a year later, BJ got the body cam footage. I'm like, what do you have to say about this? Well, bam, we didn't know what to do. It's like, but. But you lied to me for a whole year. Like, I think you even swore on your whatever's. You know what I mean?
Bonnie
Like, yeah. What, were you using a lot then?
Bam Margera
No, because I was in treatment for two years. But as soon as I would get out, the first thing I wanted to do was that. Because I had no reason to stop. My kid has been taken away from me, and they have no plans on arranging me a visit. I'm paying rent for my girlfriend's place, and I said, if you move to Burbank near your brainwashing brother. I'm leaving you for good. So I'm like, I'll move to anywhere with you in Phoenix, on the planet, except there. So I sent the money. I'm like, congratulations, you. I heard you got a place. Where is it? She's like, burbank. I'm like, all right, I'm leaving you. And she thought that I was fibbing, but, like, I. The. The only reason it made me stop right here. She gave me the perfect ultimatum. Her puss or the vodka. I really like vodka, but I'm not gonna go with that. I'm gonna go with the first option. And her stretch in an hour a day is so effective. Anytime I was sore back in the day. I'm like, man, I'm sore. I need a massage. I should have got a stretch.
Danny Marie
Coach A. I just want to go back to, like, the. Just because the family and everything, because we could talk all day. We all probably have ADHD in this room. But I. The thing that I noticed when we got together is. And I'm going to say it, because this is the honesty day today is. I've never had a chance to talk to the world, so what I experienced in the beginning would be devastating to me, because whatever issue you have, your family is supposed to be the ones that you can count on and your friends. So when you see a situation like Brittany and now and Bam, it's. It's the money. I worked for a piece of shit who was in the Florida Shuttle Shuffle. His name's Joe McBratney. I dare him to come for me. He owes me 900. But, like, he was in the Florida shuffle, and he was sleeping with these girls. Like, I. I'm.
Bonnie
What was he.
Danny Marie
He was. He was an owner of a rehabilitation center. So the. The definition of the Florida Shuffle, where Bam was. Which his parents seem to be in denial at times, is that they will just take you and then say, you and I have one. It's like, hey, Bam's about to get out, so let's get them up. So they'll let. They would let the girls?
Bam Margera
Yeah, because if they let you out and you have a couple days left, they're hoping that you relapse so they could keep you for another 90 days for insurance purposes.
Danny Marie
So they would let the girls go out and then say. I'd say, hey, you know, Haley's over on 10th street in Delray. Go get her. And then you would keep her for 30 days, and we would split the hundred thousand dollars, and that's how it goes. And that's what he was in. So when you have someone like our men here that have money, it's just a conversation. Constant shuffle. So when I saw some of the body cam, I was like pretty disturbed that people that were calling my phone, brand new, trying to get a hold of him that I'm realizing don't want to call me either.
Bonnie
Right.
Danny Marie
Because they just wanted to get to him. There's just a lot of facts out there that show that they just wanted to keep him there.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Danny Marie
And if he wouldn't have met me, he'd either be dead or he would have just been in the Florida for sure.
Bam Margera
And these places are so shady that I had a roommate named Big Ben. And an ambulance took him out at three in the morning when everybody was asleep and they pronounced him dead. And they. I woke up and I overhear everybody saying like, hey, where's Big Ben? He left and. And all the staff members were like, oh, he moved along to a different facility. I'm a different facility. Yeah, the morgue. He's deader than they pronounced him dead when I was sitting next to him.
Bonnie
That's got to be traumatic.
Bam Margera
But this whole place is trained. They were, they taught everybody to say that he moved along to a different facility. Yeah, the mortgage, that.
Bonnie
That's got to be traumatic also having your roommate die right next.
Bam Margera
They put me in. I had to go in on under Jackass rules with Paramount that I read about and pay for it. So I'm going in on Adderall and alcohol, which I had a prescription for, and I go in, I'm on more drugs than I've ever have. I was a zombie to the point where I couldn't even cry. Or come. They put me on B propion, Propanolol, lithium, Latuda, Trazodone, Seroquil, every Wellbutrin and Abilify known to man. But. But you could say like, hey, Bam, you're a cat. Oh, my cat died. Neat. You know, hey, Angelina's over there naked and she wants to have at it. Oh, she does. Cool. Like, I was just numb. I had no feelings whatsoever. I was better out at the Irish pubs cracking jokes on Adderall and alcohol rather than all that.
Bonnie
Do you feel like they keep people over medicated in these places so that they can control them?
Bam Margera
That's of course that. And they. And the doctor probably gets a big kickback on writing all these prescriptions if. If they leave. If you leave on nothing, then they lose a client.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
Oh, he's Good to go. Well, it looks like we don't need him anymore.
Danny Marie
No.
Bam Margera
They want you forever to be on their. What did it do? Nothing. I. They said they diagnosed me with manic bipolar. And then they said, are you depressed? I go, I don't know if I am depressed. It's because I'm now too. I'm top heavy and I can't skateboard how I used to. So they give me all these new prescriptions and I'm eating salads in there and I'm like gaining weight. I'm like, that's it. So I type in Depakote number one weight gaining pills, Zyprexa number one weight gaining bill. I'm like, doc, why would you give me a weight gaining pill if. If I told you I'm depressed because I'm heavier than I'm supposed to be. He's like, well, it's an antidepressant. Well, if I keep getting fatter, I'm going to be more depressed. You he eyed.
Bonnie
They, they literally just give you a pill for everything. That's why I won't take any medication. I barely even want to take a leave, like around my period because it just. And medications are just, they're like a band aid and they don't help you, they don't heal you.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Bonnie
If anything you get strung out on them or you are dependent on them for the rest of your life.
Bam Margera
Exactly. And, and I did learn this. The interventionalist Steve Timmer was on the body cam footage. And if you tell the police, don't listen to a word he says. He's schizophrenic. If you say he's schizophrenic, you could be like, hey, police. If you look right there and just lean your head over, you will find a dead body. Yeah, yeah. You're not. No, no, no. Just take two steps and take a look. Yeah, you're schizophrenic. You don't know what you're talking about. Like, no, just take two steps and look like they just do not believe anything. As soon as you say schizophrenic, don't believe a word.
Danny Marie
It's actually one of the body cams. You can hear one of the cops go, he's about to go in the room. That's when I can't watch it anymore. His friend Paul was on the phone. Now that I'm very good friends with Paul, and Paul said it was devastating. But you can hear the one cop go, oh, he's just schizophrenic. Don't worry about like. It's something in that manner of like, don't pay attention to anything he says.
Bonnie
Did they diagnose you with schizophrenia?
Danny Marie
He doesn't even know.
Bam Margera
He's like, I think, I think just wanted to see me get arrested and go back to a mental institution.
Danny Marie
What step is schizophrenic? He schizophrenic? Yeah.
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Bam Margera
So out of the 13 places I've been to, I think two of them diagnosed me with manic bipolar. The other 11 says that I'm not. Every time I go to a new treatment center, which would be every 90 days, they'd be like, they have you on this, that, and the other thing, and this, this. What kind of cocktail is this? We never seen anything like that. I'm like, they said that they were the best of the best. No, we're the best of the best. And you're going to be on this, that, and the other thing now and switch it up. Then I go to another place. They're big. What did that place put you on? This is the craziest cocktail I've ever seen. I'm like, well, they said they were the best of the best, and that place that was the best, but said that they sucked. I'm like, you're all idiots.
Danny Marie
Minus the only one that wasn't an idiot that we just happened to run into. How Angels Come Back around is his. And I'm gonna say her name is Anne Marie. We were just in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, and she hasn't seen this person in so long. And there's a table we usually set up with the Duffs. The Duffs. This is Ed Duff rides for Tony's.
Bam Margera
Hawk and Vero Restaurant in the back room. She was just sitting there. I'm like, what? My therapist, what are you doing? She was there for a different reason.
Bonnie
She's your original therapist, and she was.
Bam Margera
The only one that I day I listened to and loved everybody else, you know, and that's another thing. I just spilled my guts to a whole new therapist out. I had 13 therapists in the past two years. So it's like, here we go again. I gotta spill my whole guts out to every another person and get nowhere because I'm just gonna leave again and they're gonna get me another.
Danny Marie
Okay, you be quiet for one minute. So she basically. We just ran into her, though, and.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
So she was one of the only ones that told me personally that she didn't want to do what companies were making him do the Paramount thing and everything, that she didn't want him on all these things. So they didn't want. They didn't like her because she wasn't following the poisonous rules.
Bonnie
Right.
Danny Marie
So somehow they lost contact. We're going to meet Pamela for dinner. We walk in this restaurant to go to Pamela's table, and she's sitting there, she's in this beautiful pink suit. I'm like, who's this bombshell? Where's Pamela? And then they're like, almost crying because they haven't seen each other in so long. So I just want to say, like, there was one good one, but she was too good to make it because they want good to go away.
Bonnie
They want to feed the system.
Bam Margera
So if I stop taking the 18 medications, then I don't get the 5 million that I usually get on a Jackass movie because I broke my contract. So I stopped taking it though. Looks like you broke your contract. I'm like, yeah, what's the point? What's the point of getting $5 million if I'm dead?
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
Cuz that's what was going to happen. I kept taking that.
Danny Marie
But if you read about Britney, they say how they open your mouth, they make you swallow the pills. So it was like they were making.
Bonnie
Didn't you have to like sit on FaceTimes with and take your medication every.
Bam Margera
Day, all day, only to get up to piss or go to the refrigerator and I would just go back to bed. I, I, I was like basically just dead inside. I wasn't dead already.
Danny Marie
They did it to him again recently when I went to go pick him up. That's like another part of the family, like. And now that I can talk about it, you know, everyone is aware that it happened fast. But when we started dating and then we had our one first fight ever and he was like, I'm going to no bo to bang bowl. I was like, you are.
Bonnie
Don't do that.
Danny Marie
Thank you. So then I met my best friend Heather's. I'm like, do you really think he's gonna go to Nobu and do that? She's like, I don't think so. And then two hours later he's like, bam. Knocking on her door. La Brea in Hollywood. And I'm like, all right, we're dating. It's over. Don't do that again to me. I'm stressed out. But you know, when he had to go to court was when it was a reality check. He asked me, will you fly to Pennsylvania with me and go to court? And it was a really big deal. But I didn't know that he wasn't coming back. So they kept.
Bam Margera
I didn't know either. So, so it was because I had a little tiff with my brother. I lent him Castle Bam to turn into a recording studio. He got Prince's soundboard from Paisley park. And, and I knew that I would be in treatment. And, and once I got out, I was going to go to California to hike with the shaman to lose all his weight. So I came home. Didn't think that I had to make an announcement that I'm coming home because it's my home. So instead of like, hey, welcome back, it was More like, so when are you leaving? Use when I'm leaving. So we got a little tiff about that. I. I read his phone on a three way conversation with the people that were working in the studio at my house saying we did not know Bam would be home. He's ruining our program. We need to get him back to California ASAP or 5150. And for no reason just to not. So I ripped off the first thing I saw which is signed Billy Idol guitar and. And either smashed it with him or on the kitchen whatever. And then I told his girlfriend who was trying to rescue a cat. She fell off the ladder and shattered her heel. So I said I'd put a bear trap on her other foot foot knowing that I don't own a bear trap and I certainly didn't fly in with one. So I got a terroristic death threat charge of a bear trap and I put my hand in one in Jackass too. And it didn't even break. So cool your goddamn jets everyone.
Bonnie
It's got to be so hurtful that the people that you are supposed to love you the most seem to be so against you. It's almost like they're just like just.
Bam Margera
It's the little things that piss me off. Villa Valo from him is my favorite band. So I have a big picture, right? As soon as you walk in, there's a piece of cardboard duct taped over his face with like a. You know. Just super disrespectful. And then I just bought Phoenix a little blue Lamborghini car. Special car that I left because when I got arrested on the manhunt when they called the police on me to 5150 me, I left that car there because I got locked up. He could just put it right in the house. It got so sun dried that it's gray. It's not even worth giving it to him anyway anymore.
Bonnie
What is your relationship with Nikki now?
Bam Margera
There isn't one.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
The lawyers. She. She lawyered up with a lawyer. Which was completely ridiculous because we're not married. We got married. It was a fake wedding in Iceland that you. You have to be a resident there to make it legit. We didn't know that. So thank God on that. Weren't we? So she's trying to tell the. The lawyer that her name is Nicole Margera. That name does not exist on paper. It doesn't exist on the planet of Earth. So I was giving her five grand a month out of the kindness of my own support. I'm like, I'm being more than fair. And then finally, we went to court with her getting a lawyer, and the judge was like, you only get $500 a month. You're not even married. So I'm like you. You should have been happy with the five grand. Now I've given 200 grand to my lawyer, and your lawyer wants me to pay for him, too. All the money has gone to the lawyers. Congratulations. Over a matter we could have figured out in one second. When's a better FaceTime for Phoenix? High noon on Wednesday, or is Tuesday better? Better, but they always say we're still working on it. So if you send me another 50 grand, we'll still be working on it. Yeah, you're going to work on it for eternity. Till my banks ran dry.
Bonnie
So you aren't in Phoenix's life right now, or. You are.
Bam Margera
It's still. It's still an issue. Apparently, I get to see him once every weekend, but I'm fully booked with these Comic Cons every weekend to pay these legal fees.
Danny Marie
It's working out, though, like they have, you know. Right. Unfortunately, just to speak on this subject, I, you know, push him all. I come from a divorce, divorced family. I have daddy issues right now. I'm pissed at him right now. But it'll work out. And Phoenix is so young that he just wants to see dad. Dad's. Dad's famous, so Dad's busy, and he's doing better than ever, and he'll be okay. You know, it's just getting on a schedule so they can see each other and spend time. Right now, it's monitored. So that's been a little hard on him. But, you know, you got to prove to the system that you're not a nut ball. Even though he's kind of crazy, but I told him just to do his part. They're gonna be just fine.
Bam Margera
It almost doesn't even matter if a decade went by. Like, hey, do you know, can Bam see Phoenix now? Because it's been 10 years, and he's been sober as a judge. Well, he'll probably just relapse. I know him, you know, there's nothing I could do to win on this matter.
Danny Marie
And unfortunately, he's been so up and down that they're. I don't think that they believe this. I think I'm a flyby girlfriend and.
Bonnie
Right.
Danny Marie
Some people think I'm here for the fame. I'm famous in my own way. I don't need it.
Bam Margera
You know, it's really shitty because I'm missing him grow up.
Danny Marie
Yeah. You know, should be skateboarding.
Bam Margera
If I walk in the mall and I see some teddy bears or a paw patrol poster, I'm crying my eyes out. If I even go past a playground and I see kids playing, it's like that's all I want to do. But I have to have a supervised visit from the Supreme Court with a microphone on. Just. It's like I've been living at the Black Rifle Coffee compound with a little 8 year old and a 10 year old. How come I get to live there and play with them all day, but when it comes to my own kid, have to have a Supreme Court visit with a microphone and people filming me just because I don't do anything wrong, what am I going to do wrong?
Danny Marie
But my sister is not famous and she had to go through this and she just in Georgia has like. And he won 51% and my sister is an angel. She has to pay child support. So they have a good connection. And he knows he's not alone. There's a lot of parents out there that are fighting for their kids. Whether you're famous and have money or broken have nothing and they're fighting for no reason when it should just be about the child. So I support him 100 and he knows that.
Bam Margera
I don't even know what school he goes to. I don't even know where he lives, even though I'm paying for it. I don't even know anything about him, what friends he has, what he even likes, what cartoons he likes. Don't know anymore because everything has to go through the lawyer and it's just such a pain in the ass.
Bonnie
Is Nikki willing to put her hurt aside and have some sort of friendship with you so that you guys can. Can I think together when.
Bam Margera
When a girl is scorned, then all they see is fire in their eyes and Babylon's burning and it's gonna burn your house down. There's nothing you could do to save it, right? It's just there's.
Danny Marie
It's hard and the kid's young. So just I think right now, like me personally, I just, like I said, I come from a, you know, divorced family and, you know, it's all about him and Phoenix. It's not about her, it's not about me. It's not about April and Phil. It's about those two and, you know, relationship.
Bam Margera
Everybody on her end, they're hearing her one sided story. She's probably going around saying, bam left me high and dry and. And he gives me only 400amonth. Yeah, I was giving you five until the judge said, you're only getting four. And I given all my money to lawyers when I begged you not to get one because we don't need that. So it's all gone anyway. There's nothing to divide anymore. You know, the lawyers started from scratch, and I love it that. That way. So now if we want to get out, we pick out our own furniture. We do it. I like starting from. I've never been more happy in my life on this great adventure of just going from spot to spot, meeting new people, coming up with new deals. New what? Whatever. It's great.
Danny Marie
Sounds like, you know, in.
Bam Margera
In a vicious circle of the hair of the dog, I wake up, like, Oh, I feel like from drinking, but if I have a drink, I'm gonna feel pretty good.
Bonnie
Good.
Bam Margera
And if I have another one, I'm gonna feel even better. If I have a third one, I'll feel. Next thing you know, you wake up. Oh, I feel like. But if I have a beer, I.
Bonnie
Know it's a cycle.
Danny Marie
Why do they call it hair of the dog?
Bonnie
I've never understood that.
Bam Margera
The dog that bit you.
Danny Marie
But why the dog? Hair doesn't bite.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
I like dog hair.
Bonnie
I've never understood that saying.
Danny Marie
Me neither. But I use the method often in the past.
Bonnie
It sounds to me like you have found some sort of purpose.
Bam Margera
Yes.
Bonnie
And that's what's driving you, and that's exciting to you, because even though you have done everything that you've done, it, it almost, like, seems like it started so young for you that you weren't able to appreciate it.
Bam Margera
Exactly.
Danny Marie
Like, amen.
Bam Margera
I mean, I start made my own video at the age of 16, and through word of mouth, sold over a million copies without even putting an ad in anything. Just mom and Pop. Skate shops were selling it, and everybody said, you need to see this video. So then I did another one. And then that's when Jackass found me. I was the first person ever ride for Nike. And when Element put out my skateboards, they also put out bam. Wallets. Bam. Sunglasses. Bam. Everything. And when Jackass became bigger than MTV could imagine, I already had all this bam stuff out before they could even make Jackass stuff. So I was clocking Mega bank, and every wish that I had, any goal that I set would come true through quicker than my deadline date.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
And. And I ran out of goals.
Bonnie
I feel like you made Jackass, though, because you already had, like, a little mini empire with CKY before even getting on to Jack. I knew who you were Before Jackass.
Danny Marie
Everybody knows that all the fans really say that.
Bonnie
Like, people who really grew up with you because you raised some of us, you know, like we grew up with you. And you were like. You were pretty much like one of the first real content creators, if you think about it, like, really influencer or whatever the they want to call it.
Bam Margera
Thing, living in Pennsylvania, and he's the hottest. That's when Tremaine and Knoxville, they would be in. In Los Angeles making all these secret deals. Then they do a documentary about how Jackass got created and talking about Big Brother the whole time. And at the very tail end, probably about 5%. Oh, yeah, and then Ben was doing CKY in Pennsylvania. If you do the math, I sold millions of copies. You barely sold 20, 000 copies of Big Brother's video called Poop and Tit and Crap.
Danny Marie
I don't even know.
Bonnie
I've never even heard of that. Yeah, I know exactly. I know who c. Never heard of that.
Bam Margera
I have learned how to forgive and be happy, and I deleted anybody that's given me a problem. But I just want to take my anger out on one person. Jeff Tremaine's too much of a Knoxville. Get into a ring with me, Take off your boxing clubs. One, two, three, you're done for.
Bonnie
So you're still really angry and hurt with Knoxville.
Bam Margera
Put me through hell. Made me pay all this treatment money, and they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment, so. So they already set me up to fail. And then. And then as soon as I do the slightest thing wrong, I'm not in the movie. So I paid 100 grand to go to treatment only for me to up. And then now I'm not in the movie. They had it all planned out. And I think that Knoxville tried to do this movie called Action Point in South Africa, and they had a 15 million dollar budget, and he tried to do it without us, and it was a fucking flop. They only made $2 million. So when that happens, the label says you're not free to go. You're either going to have to pay this back or put your house up for sale or do a jackass five. Well, if Bam's not in it, then that's already 6 million to $5 million that we don't have to pay back. So we could already say he's a liability because he's drunk out in front of a hotel room on tmz. Yeah, well, on Jackass too, I got a high five for good press when I got a felony charge Having branch knuckles at the LAX airport, drunk as hell.
Danny Marie
That's all what they need from you at the time.
Bam Margera
Yeah, but now I'm a liability.
Danny Marie
You guys, Guys, I'm just going to say on that note, since we skipped right forward to that. You know, it's funny how recently my DMS and phone calls and text messages. I'm going to let them all know right now to stop texting him.
Bam Margera
Yeah, and if Double dog Knoxville to do any stunt, oh, I'm so brave. I'll have to do it. Why Triple Dog dare you step into a ring with me? You're done for. You're over.
Bonnie
When you say your DMS and stuff like that, who's DMing you and calling?
Danny Marie
Well, just in the beginning, I mean, I'll just say, you know, Novak reached out, but I don't even know who he is, right? So I don't want to get involved with their relationship. I have a 30 year friendship relationship and no one will get involved in that either, you know, so Brandon was.
Bonnie
Around during the cky days too, wasn't he?
Bam Margera
And you know, I. I've helped him with over a dozen treatment centers. I rescued him over a dozen overdoses at the hospital. I've paid for all of his mistakes and I don't want any of that money back now that he's doing. Doing good. But like, he stole my S55 Mercedes 125000 car when I was in Germany. High on pills to go get more pills. Wrecked into the dean's car. Westchester fleed the scene. They tried to charge me over until I proved I was in Germany. But he says you always got to take accountability for your actions. All right, well, you owe me a car. You're buying your seventh treatment house in Delaware, driving around in your Range Rover. You owe me a car.
Danny Marie
But even just recently, like, I went because I go through it phone. So anybody who's texting, watch. I read everything because I'm allowed to. And if I need to change the number, I will, because there's nobody allowed. But our little small circle right now.
Bonnie
Which is probably what's keeping him safe.
Danny Marie
And sober, can't have any of that. And I've gone through the phone and I saw the message of like, let's go to the sausage castle and you can knock me out. I love Mike, but I'm like. And Mike Busey was. Wasn't the one texting. But you know, Steve was asking him to like punch him. Like, we're not. What do you talk like we're doing. He's doing great. Like, you should probably want to talk to him and ask how he's doing instead of doing something that would benefit you.
Bam Margera
And that's why I like just putting my phone down. I like to just leave alone right now. We spend all day, every day. Like, we are such a powerhouse team that she takes better photos than most of the people on Thrash.
Danny Marie
Those are all my pictures.
Bam Margera
I tell her where the angle is. We get. She stretches me beforehand, and it's. We just have, like, a perfect day that I don't need any phone calls interrupting the flow of that. And. And, you know, everybody asked me, like, if they did another Jackass, would you want to be. Hell no. It is done. Tremaine has ruined the legacy. It was supposed to be a tribute to Ryan Dunn. Now he puts these new he haw heads in there, and.
Danny Marie
And it's too many balls. Like, why were we stapling balls the whole time? It was very disturbing.
Bam Margera
And all he does is sit behind the count the camera and say, get hurt in action. Poopies got bitten by a shark. He could have died. And the movie made $150 million in the box office. Office. And apparently he got, like, less than 40 grand. You can't even buy a Datsun with a used tire on it with that kind of money. Meanwhile, yeah, you had a Hyundai, but you had to sign a contract on Jackass for everybody could get with at any given moment. Except for Tremaine. Because he's the director. No, because he's a.
Bonnie
So circling back to Steve O. I had a conversation with him the other day because he's coming on the podcast, and Jay just did his podcast, and I told him that you were coming on, and he said that he is. I can't. I'd have to look at the text message. But so much I think he said around the. Like, he's hurt he's reached out to you, and he's hurt because he hasn't heard a response.
Danny Marie
I won't let him respond right now. So he could be mad at me, but that's okay. Yeah. Maybe when I get to know a little bit more of the situation. Right now, my focus is his mental health and my relationship. Like, I've only been with this person for eight months, and it went public kind of immediately, which I can handle. Handle. But, you know, right now, they don't know him anymore. Right now, this person is on a whole new chapter. That's not about counting days. It's not about how, you know, it's about, he's changed. He's turned a page. And if, if those friendships can survive, then that's great. But right now I love Steve.
Bam Margera
Oh, when the time is right, we'll, we'll talk and everything's cool. But I mean, like, I did his tour. He asked me to go on tour to do open up for his comedy show and get some money to pay some legal fee bills of the mess that I'm in. And I completed my mission. Everything was success. I didn't drink like how he asked. And, and then I find out that he puts all my money in a Phoenix Wolf trust fund when he turns 18. I'm like, I earned that money. Yeah, but we didn't want you to spend it on alcohol or drugs. It doesn't matter. I did the work. Pay me. And it's, it's not like I need your money. I have a couple bank accounts. I could just go right to the store and get some. But like, you're not at liberty to be starting a Phoenix the Wolf trust fund. And he gets it when he's 18.
Danny Marie
Pain.
Bonnie
It's that it sounds to me like you're really hurt and upset and tired of people making decisions for you.
Bam Margera
Making decisions for me. And I, I, I can't even trust, you know, I, it's just hard to trust anybody. I don't know what their real agenda is.
Bonnie
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, that's heavy. To not be able to trust anybody like that.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Danny Marie
I always say friendships are meant to be. Like, they will. Right? I mean, they've known each other really long time. Always bubble of friends right now is.
Bam Margera
You know, we have a perfect circle of tight friends and I'm not going to let anybody dent it anymore.
Bonnie
Right.
Bam Margera
Viva laam. I let in so many friends, that bubble just bursted.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
And you, when you keep giving everybody your phone number, then you start talking, you start forgetting to talk about the important ones. There was a point where my manager, Terry Arty was so great, he would get me commercials to do Right Guard for a million dollars of one day a work. And now I'm pawning off his phone calls to a friend of a friend because I don't have time to answer it now, which I've highly regret doing. You know, when I look back at everything, I'm like, yeah, he, he had this movie ready for me to go. I was too hungover to make the flight. And because of that, I think that's when he was just like, you know what? Enough is enough. I can't. I Just had a lot of money on the line for you to be producing this movie in Hollywood, and you were just too hungover to get on the flight while I'm done.
Bonnie
I think that circles back to doing this at such a young age and just not appreciating the opportunities because you didn't know, like, you literally grew up doing this. So to you, it was just like, oh, another deal, I'll get another one.
Bam Margera
You know, $300,000 to spend a week for 65 weeks, that's unheard of.
Bonnie
They would never give somebody a budget like that.
Danny Marie
Now.
Bonnie
That's unheard of.
Bam Margera
Our meetings at MTV would be bonkers. It's like, so what do you want to do this week? And most people be like, is this guy crazy? Be like, how about we paint the entire kitchen blue? And then we'll have an elephant come in and we'll make the outside a moat with a drawbridge. And then I'll keep wrecking Don Vito, my uncle's car, until he gets fed up and drives my R.I.P.
Bonnie
Don Vito.
Bam Margera
Boom. Done deal.
Danny Marie
Now he saves elephants. I love that.
Bonnie
Circling back to you and Ryan Dunn's relationship, let's focus on that for a little bit. You guys were like best of friends.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Bonnie
Take me on that journey with you guys.
Bam Margera
Well, we met in. I was in ninth grade. He was in 11th at East High School in Westchester, Pennsylvania. He just moved from Cleveland, Ohio, and he was just such a character. He was. He didn't know how to skateboard, and he knew that I was making the CKY video. And he became a part of the crew just because he would be the guy to do. Do the gnarly thing that everybody would back out on, you know, he's big. So. So what does everybody puts out on to get in that wheelbarrow and get pushed off of that three story building into this pricker bush. Just give me a shot of crown royal and let's get it done and over with. So. So he would be like we call a random hero because he would always save the day. And. And we did everything together. Anytime we did an MTV interview, he would always be right there if I started trailing off or, you know, he would always take over. So to find out that he got in a car accident, it was very devastating because I never had anybody die that I was close to, and I never knew what it felt like. It was always like, hey, did you hear aunt Audrey from Pittsburgh died? I'm like, who? We had Thanksgiving dinner with her five Thanksgiving. All right, whatever. Are you going to Go to the funeral, I guess, if I have to. I don't know. So anybody that died until then, I never knew. I didn't.
Bonnie
You never knew a pain.
Bam Margera
But then when that. It hit so hard, to the point where I remember we were in. Outside of Phoenix, Arizona. I was doing an appearance the next day, and we were in the woods having a campfire. You could see all the stars. And I'm like, man, I am really happy right now. I couldn't be happier. Then all of a sudden, I just punch out the van window and break it for no reason. And the tour manager was like, why did you do. I'm like, I don't know. I'm just mad, and I don't know why. I just don't know why. Turns out he wrecked at 12:28 in Pennsylvania, and I smashed the window at 9:28 in Phoenix. So it's like we had such a connection that I knew something bad happened, and I didn't know what till I found out the next morning.
Bonnie
It's like. It was like he was one. Like a soulmate.
Danny Marie
Like, he wanted you to know.
Bonnie
Yeah, soulmate. Soulmates can be your friends, too. It's not always a romantic link.
Bam Margera
And my mom would always tell him, like, you get these fast cars with these fast engines. You're gonna get into a wreck. He's like, yeah, a fiery wreck. And that's how. And that's how it happened. He. Wreck. He flipped me in a car eight times into oncoming traffic when I was 16 years old. In. In school, he. He was doing a radio. He was installing radios, and he's like, hop in the car. I got this Jetta where it's going.
Danny Marie
Down a little, so.
Bam Margera
So we were flying 110 miles per hour. Somebody caught us off. We slid for so long like a football field. As soon as we hit the grass in the median, we started flipping into oncoming traffic. My brother got flown out on the last field flip. He was 40ft in, like a moat. I could see his feet sticking out. And when I saw him, he was just like a helicopter had to come get him out. I had a big softball on my head from bashing the window out on the first flip. But I gotta thank Chris Rab, because he was sitting next to me, and he put my seat belt on, and I ejected. I said, I'm not a. And then he put it on again, and then we flipped instantly after the second time he put it on.
Bonnie
Oh, my gosh.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Bonnie
Do you feel like after Ryan's death is kind of when he started spiraling.
Bam Margera
Hell yeah. Because I was so lost that I didn't know what to do. It's like, well, now we can't make a CKY video. If we do another Jack, it won't be the same.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
And instead of, like, drinking as a celebration, it was just drinking to forget.
Bonnie
Right.
Bam Margera
And it became a real fucking problem. And I didn't even know it. I would always. I was always that guy to. To go, you know, 90 days and be like, all right, you know, we're going to Ruth Chris Steakhouse tonight. I could have one wine for dinner. Yeah. It might be one wine that night for dinner, but the next day I'm gonna have two. The next day it's gonna be two bottles, and then I'm out looking for drugs. It always happens that way.
Danny Marie
And getting your phone still over a.
Bam Margera
Baked dozen of tries to realize that.
Bonnie
Oh, my goodness.
Danny Marie
Yeah.
Bonnie
So jumping back in, do you think bam. You know all the trauma that you've been through through have you had. I know you've been to all did the Florida shuffle, but have you ever had any, like, trauma therapy?
Bam Margera
Yeah. I mean, they put me through everything like a part of the jackass thing. I had to blow into a soberling four times a day. I had to pay for 800 of therapy twice a week. Neurofeedback, Same thing. Yeah. And. And.
Danny Marie
But I think you were forced. I think if you did it like, on your own.
Bam Margera
I have therapy of hearing sirens when I. Because I was on. When I was on that Manhattan hunt, it was gnarly. There was three helicopters in the sky, eight police officers circling around trying to find me through the woods. I am a professional at hopping barbed wire fences. I was scared shitless on the fourth one, but on the eighth one, I became a pro. And then I drank the Brandywine river because I was dying of thirst. I slept in a box in a house that I thought was abandoned until they pulled up and they were so terrified. They come up to unlock the door, and they just see a pair of feet hanging out this box. And all of a sudden, I just jump out like a bat out of the hill. I just go, I'm sorry. And I'd keep running down the railroad tracks.
Danny Marie
Oh, my God.
Bam Margera
I was fucking Harriet Tubman from the Underground Railroad. I had fairness hide me, take me to a Albanian restaurant. And then they took me from there. Finally, I. I made it to the Jersey shore at a buddy's house, and. And I was telling random people just to see how far it would go. I Told my mom that I was in North Carolina just to see if that would travel anywhere. Anywhere. Sure enough, turns out, like we found out Bam's in North Carolina on a high speed chase, all larried up. Because if he made it to North Carolina that quick, that means he was driving 120 miles per hour. I'm like, that was a lie that I told to my mom just to see how far it would go. Oh my gosh, I'm in Jersey.
Bonnie
There's just so much betrayal and there's so much trauma here. And I think that whenever you're ready to sit down and kind of deal with it without out with it being on your terms, like Danny said, I think it would help you out a lot because you just are so hurt, you know, like there's just so much turmoil inside. And that's why you drink, that's why you do the drugs you do is to hide and cover up all this pain that you have.
Bam Margera
And with a relationship, it's all about trust. If you don't have trust, you got nothing.
Bonnie
Right? Absolutely. That's 100. Right. And now you've got Danny.
Bam Margera
Yeah. Hell yeah, we know.
Danny Marie
There's no filter here. Works for sure.
Bonnie
So how many days sober are you now?
Bam Margera
Since August 1st.
Bonnie
Okay, so that's, that's actually a good while. Is that the longest you've been sober?
Bam Margera
Well, minus the Florida shuffle, cuz I. I was forced to be. But as soon as I.
Danny Marie
Right.
Bonnie
On your own. This is you on your own. Yeah. That's amazing.
Danny Marie
Yeah, Love it.
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Bam Margera
All I needed all along was a structured schedule that's Fun, because I had no 9 to 5 job. I had no boss ever tell me what to do do. And you know, I need a structured bedtime schedule. I know when I'm with her, I'm in bed.
Bonnie
Yeah, I text her last night at like 9:30.
Danny Marie
I woke up this morning, I was like, I missed something. We were in bed and, you know, he was already asleep.
Bam Margera
And that's why I love having the dogs. Because we wake up, I walk the dogs, we take care of that. If I. If I can't take care of myself, I can't take care of the dogs. But we walk the dogs, she stretches me, we go to the gym. Then I look for a skate spot. She shoots the skate photo or films it for me. We get it done, we go get something to eat. And then I either paint or read or write or edit or whatever it is. It's a whole fun, structured schedule. And Stevo would always tell me, dude, if you just get sober, you'll see that neat things will happen. I'm like, well, I've been sober. And the only neat things that happen is nothing. Because I'm forced to go to treatment. I'm forced to go to AA to learn that alcohol is bandits, not any good. I'm forced to go to therapy. I'm forced to go to neurofeedback. Nothing fun is happening at all.
Bonnie
Right.
Danny Marie
I couldn't imagine, could you? Our personalities. I could not imagine someone making me swallow a pill and put me with no freaking music or my phone or you or a text. They want you to go crazy.
Bam Margera
And I gotta say this.
Danny Marie
I mean, it's like a setup for disaster.
Bam Margera
How come the FBI or no one has done research about this Amanda Rab client, that Lima, my guardian. And she died under her care. And she changed the autopsy saying that it wasn't from what she died from. It was from a cardiac arrest seizure, which is what I started getting as soon as I met her.
Danny Marie
And it's online. So these things that are being said. She's already tried to go. I read about she tried, but it's all on the Internet. I mean, people are now aware of her lies.
Bonnie
People aren't still in her care, are they?
Bam Margera
Well, I don't know. They better not be.
Danny Marie
People are backing up.
Bam Margera
She made me talk. Talk about this neato helmet that she made.
Danny Marie
Listen to this.
Bam Margera
And I put on this helmet and I'm. And she forced me to say how. How neat it is and how it helps with therapy. In one eye, you see a little kitten drinking milk and Then the other eye, you see a Tyrannosaurus rex is coming at you at full speed trying to eat you. And she's like which eye do you pick? I picked the kitty cat. You're on the right path. No, I'm on the right path. Why would I pick the left eye which is a T Rex coming at me to eat me.
Danny Marie
So they're basically using like psychedelic, you know, things to kind of trick your brain.
Bonnie
Right.
Danny Marie
And you know if I went down the rabbit hole of BJ investigates and that's, that's how I when he was sleeping and resting, I wanted to know and Pamela and BJ are friends and they showed me things that I started to understand the system. Even working in the shuffle, I was familiar with it, right. And then watching how they use certain tools, tools to manipulate the brain and they can keep them. So there's a word for it. It's a very scary.
Bam Margera
All PJ investigates wanted to do was free bam. She started the free Bam movement. So if somebody gets that then you're against me.
Danny Marie
BJ is a big big deal with the free Britney movement. So she's the one in case not just bam but she's uncovered the Wendy Williams recently Casey Casem back in the day. Like she's someone who is speaking for them.
Bonnie
To get her on the podcast.
Danny Marie
Podcast I would, I'll definitely connect you too. Let's not forget this isn't just happening to famous people. This is happening to someone like you and I. Well you're, you know, crazy.
Bonnie
I don't care.
Danny Marie
But I mean just like you and I like sitting in a room and your mom thinks you're okay and you're not because the person that's in control of you is a liar.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
And money hungry and no, we went.
Bonnie
Through this with our daughter. We had, we had to put her in a treatment center. Awful what they do last year in September and I relate researched everything cuz I was so scared of something like what happened to you happening to her. So it's scary. I mean the mental health system is a nightmare and we definitely don't want.
Danny Marie
To bash the good ones.
Bonnie
I'm sorry.
Bam Margera
I went to Aurora Mental Health in Pasadena, California and I was just talking to the other people. I'm like so what happened to you? He's like I was just here for a 48 hour hold and then they found out that I insurance and I had nowhere to go. And I've been here for 150 days.
Danny Marie
Keep you like a shot. Like it's really.
Bam Margera
And I can't even get on the phone and I don't even know who I would call for help. But they found I was only on a 48 hour hold. And then they found out insurance and I had nowhere to go. And I've been here for 150 days. I'm like, this is up.
Danny Marie
And then if you go and say you kind of need help, like, we just had a friend and we're not going to name drop him. But he was going through kind of the same thing that Bam's going through with custody. And he said he just had a couple bad days and he went to 51 or he went and they 5150 him and he had a check out. He was like, I don't belong here. Here. Like, I just. I'm having some personal issues and asking for help. They put them in with, you know, the people that really need help. So it's like you're having a bad day, you can't really get the help. And then once you do, you're labeled, you're in the system and they want your money.
Bam Margera
If you're in a mental institution and you're hanging out with dudes that are yelling at the trash can saying, why didn't you marry me? And the other one's trying to French kiss their own sneaker, you're gonna start doing that too.
Bonnie
Over time it could be, yeah, you can't. If you can't beat him, join them.
Bam Margera
Why?
Danny Marie
Cuz everybody else grab your sneaker and make out. It's fine.
Bonnie
Oh, my God, Bam. Just hearing this stuff is just wild, dude. Like, it is cra. This is. It hurts my heart for you. Honestly, you seem like such a best.
Bam Margera
Thing to do is just to just shut your. Because the more you talk, the more they can hold against you. My one buddy, Hannah, called me from the mental. She's like, bam, you don't understand. I don't belong here. You got to get me out of here. And I hear. I'm like, are you banging your head against the wall? He's like, yeah, gym. Like, you just bought yourself another month, you idiot.
Danny Marie
Don't do that. Then you're definitely that.
Bam Margera
You hot air buffoon. You just bought yourself. Yeah, bang your head against the wall. That's a real good idea.
Danny Marie
He's actually really good in the gym too. This one hasn't given himself benefits for.
Bonnie
Ah, let's talk about some good stuff. So what are you doing now that's different? Like you're getting stretched, which I just discovered stretching this year. Because I too, I heard you say something, that you had ripped your thing, your hamstring string. I was doing a tick tock thing. I like was joking around and like doing this stupid dance. Not like a genuine tick tock dance, but I was like making fun of something and snapped my Achilles.
Danny Marie
Dude, that is so painful, bro.
Bonnie
It's still up. And this was on Halloween.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Bonnie
And I was like that I gotta start stretching.
Bam Margera
Oh yeah.
Bonnie
And, and that's what I've been doing is stretching. And it's phenomenal.
Bam Margera
Yeah. There was, there was no hope for me. Like I was even, I was putting tax in the, in my calf muscles. Like there was a bunch of calves. My friend was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm putting taxes. Why? I'm like, to relieve the pain.
Bonnie
Oh my gosh.
Bam Margera
So like that, that's how stiff they were from just alcohol abuse and all the medication of side effects of stiff muscles. It was for real. It was that painful. And, and one yoga guy was like, just reach down and touch your toes. See if you can do that. I doubt I can. And I went and my hamstring popped right here. I was out year from that. I, I, even when I got out of treatment, they let me skate a three foot half pipe with my friend Jeff Rasp and I didn't even get to drop in yet. I ran up the three foot ramp and, and basically got such a cramp that I couldn't do it anymore. Tried the easiest trick on the planet. Looped out because some little shit ass waxed the coping like a Eskimo. And I hyperextended my elbow to the bone coming out and broke my wrist for the 16th time. And my arm still won't go straight from it.
Danny Marie
It's getting better.
Bonnie
My gosh.
Danny Marie
We'll straighten that out too.
Bonnie
So stretching, working out, being on a regimen. Dogs, Dogs.
Danny Marie
He has such a good relationship with them. That's like another thing.
Bonnie
Not to backtrack, but did you never have animals before?
Bam Margera
I've always had cats because. Yeah, but, but anytime I would have a dog, I, I, I leave too much, I travel too much. So a friend would watch them. And when a friend watches your dog for a month and it's a brand new puppy, you come back and they're like, I can't give this back to you. I' I get it.
Danny Marie
Yeah.
Bonnie
Gotcha.
Danny Marie
But you know, bam. I think a lot of his friends will say like, you know, bringing up how he has been in this world for so long that he's always had people around him and sometimes they'll say, gosh, I just can't believe you're letting him go hiking with the dogs. I'm like, letting him hike with the dogs. Like, what do you mean letting him? Like, number one. I get a free moment to hang out and watch maybe some trash TV for a second. And then, you know, I'm. I'm thinking and learning that people have never, never left. Let him be like, alone.
Bonnie
Let him be a human.
Danny Marie
Just be in the woods. And I've. They've kind of created anxiety for me, which. Who wants that? I don't want him going. You can't go work out in the woods. You know, it's like, who. Who wants that relationship? So if Bam's gonna up, he's gonna up. He knows what he's gonna lose if he up.
Bonnie
It sounds like he's finding peace, though. I don't feel like you've ever had peace your entire life.
Danny Marie
And I just like saying I let.
Bam Margera
Him just go do his thing. Harmony, which is one thing that was like, we have such a harmonious, harmonious day. Harmony is what I needed. And man, just spending time like alone.
Danny Marie
With the dogs and he takes them for hikes. Like things that, you know, at 40 degree weather. Pennsylvania is very cold for me. So. Yeah, I'm not hiking at 5am with them.
Bonnie
I don't know. Yeah.
Danny Marie
So. But he goes and does that and it gives them time to bond with the dogs and. And it gets him. You know, they have their own little relationship, which I love, I'm starting to think so.
Bam Margera
You know. Know what? Maybe the. The interventionalist really thought that I was schizophrenic because some of the stories that I tell just seems like a nut in treatment. Like I was telling somebody. Yeah. So I shipped my purple Lamborghini to North Korea because Kim Jong Il likes sports cars. And he wouldn't let me drive it around, but he let me park it at the airport. And then Iggy Pop played my wedding and Billy Idol cut the roof off of the Lamborghini. He's probably like, this guy is batshit crazy, but if you look it up on YouTube. YouTube, you're gonna find that you've lived 20 lives.
Danny Marie
He really has.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
I mean, the people that he knows are insane.
Bonnie
I feel like this guy's talking about.
Bam Margera
Shipping his Lamborghini for Kim Jong Il. Nobody goes to North Korea and he probably doesn't even have a Lamborghini. You. It's all true.
Bonnie
I feel like the reason why you're so happy right now is because you actually don't have to put on a show every day. You don't have to please anybody else but yourself and Danny. And you're actually just being able to be. Bam. And I think you're finding who you are are now.
Bam Margera
And I have a strict diet. The only thing I eat is meat.
Bonnie
Yeah, well, I mean, that doesn't sound like a bad diet at all. It's not a bad diet. And I mean, I don't blame you. It's like filet mignon over here.
Danny Marie
You know, filet lobster.
Bonnie
Are you eating healthier, though, and stuff like that? I'm sure Danny has you.
Bam Margera
He's actually a healthy good now that all I want to do do is eat right. And I. I really don't. I. I never thought the day would come to where I. I would stop. Because it's always free. If you're at a nightclub, you wouldn't do a bump in the bathroom. Sure. You know, and then, you know, you get really addicted to it.
Danny Marie
Not these days. You'll die in the bathroom.
Bam Margera
I've been on the ground on this rug with a microscope looking for crumbs, you know, and I'm like, I'm never going to stop. It's just a matter of time. I'm gonna do it again now. Don't feel that way. You could put it right in front of me. I'll flush it down the toilet. Don't want anybody.
Danny Marie
But, you know, like, people always say, forget the haters online too. Like, well, I can't believe you're banned. Blah. Number one, mind your business. Who I want, right? And number two, like, I wasn't gonna leave him as a person. Like, I'm a good person, a people person, and I, you know, the people that I believe were connected to. When you have a connection, it was whether we were gonna last sexually or not or what booty call or not. I still wanted to be a friend. And like, when he. Especially in Hollywood, like, it's so hard, hard to find normal people in this world as it is. But when he did have to go to Pennsylvania and we had the two days together, which people don't know, the judge gave him two days with me before I had to leave. And the attorney, because I was upset, and the attorney said, you know, you guys have to have him in by Sunday. And this was Friday. So we had a couple of two really good days. And I remember saying, like, he just said, just don't leave me here because they're going to shuffle Me, like, he knew that if he stayed in the system, we weren't going to be able to see each other.
Bam Margera
What the little tiff with my brother, when we went to court, we flew in from California. My Bentley was there, parked at the LAX airport, because we thought we were coming right back. We put the dogs up and. And he's like, you're sentenced to stay in. In Pennsylvania for three months or something. Like, I'm like, but, your honor, we live in California. My car's in the airport, our dogs are there, and my brother lives at my house, so. So he's like, ain't my problem. Yeah, it's my problem. It's a big one. So now the judge, basically, I can't.
Danny Marie
Even go home to go get your car. I was like, like, what do you.
Bam Margera
Want me to do? Float around of Motel sixes around Pennsylvania all day for? Why am I sentenced to be in Pennsylvania? All my stuff. I moved to California. Well, tough, like. Yeah, it's very tough.
Danny Marie
So that's when you know you like somebody. Because basically, I had to fly back to LA by myself. I had a lot to think about. And then I went to my best friend. Friend Heather's house in Hollywood and La Brea. And I'm like. And his good friend Dre, you know, a few good people were. I said, what do I do? And they're like, go get him. He had eight days. And he said, if you don't come, give me on the eighth day, they're going to keep me here. So basically, everyone gathered. Got his. I got his Bentley. They checked the oil. They made sure it was fine. I grabbed the dogs. Heather packed me up.
Bonnie
Dre packed me two dogs in the Bentley.
Danny Marie
Two dogs in the Bentley and me. And enough to get across.
Bonnie
That's a TV show.
Danny Marie
Yeah. It took me five days to get there.
Bam Margera
It really, like, made me appreciate everything again. We'll be on a road trip and I'll just, like, pull over on the side of the road. She'd be like, what are you doing? I'm like, just appreciating this view for a moment.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Bam Margera
Like, you gotta understand it different than we do. I was locked away. Like, the only outside I got to see was a barbed wire fence to smoke a cigarette.
Danny Marie
Brutal.
Bonnie
God, it's like prison.
Bam Margera
And it's such a dick because the beach is literally right there.
Danny Marie
This doesn't feel helpful.
Bonnie
That's terrible.
Bam Margera
Yeah, they make it seem all nice on the brochure. It's right by the beach in Delray. Yeah. But I'm locked up, and the beach is right there. And you won't even let me go to it.
Bonnie
That is so sad.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Bonnie
So you guys are engaged now?
Danny Marie
We are.
Bonnie
Is there going to be a wedding?
Bam Margera
Yeah. Yes, but we wanted to.
Bonnie
Okay. I want to be the. I want to be the flower girl.
Danny Marie
Okay, perfect. I don't have.
Bonnie
And Jay gets to be the ring bearer. No, we don't. To take it from Phoenix.
Bam Margera
We really want, you know, like, Yellow Wolf or Tokyo Hotel or something to play during it. And that's not an easy thing because you need lighting and the stage and all that. So it's not something that's going to happen soon. We're going to plan this really well.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
Yeah. It happened. You know, it was just a fun day. And then I forget that people zoom in on us now. Yeah. So I. I wasn't going to take the ring off, even though it was, like, a cute little antique. He made me pick his hand. He's like, pick a hand? Yeah.
Bonnie
Tell me how it happened.
Danny Marie
Yeah, it was really cute. So there was this house in Pennsylvania that Ms. Pamela. Mrs. Pamela Duff, that they have that has a waterfall and a lot of potential.
Bam Margera
Sum it up, the Duff family. Ed Duff is a pro skateboarder for Tony Hawk's company, Birdhouse. And me and him are friends. And when I had nowhere to go, and I'm sentenced to stay in Pennsylvania, and I can't even go home, he said, come stay with it. Because they own Duff Electric. They have a bunch of.
Bonnie
And you couldn't stay in your own house?
Bam Margera
So they took us in, and they had this really nice house. House that. That they wanted to. That they just own, but it. It needs a lot of work. And it's right on the Delaware river in this cool town called New Hope, which is, like, this cool, but you're.
Danny Marie
Gonna leave out a fun detail, and the girls need a detail.
Bonnie
Yeah, we need the. We need the girly details.
Danny Marie
A details. I'm a butterfly mom. I raised butterflies. I've been doing it for, like, nine years. I want to be a B mom one day, too. So I saw potential at this place. He was talking skate parks. I saw the waterfall. Pamela just would love for us to live there, because she's right for another project.
Bonnie
Right.
Danny Marie
And I see in the front, I'm like, oh, that'd be a cool butterfly garden, you know? And I'm, like, looking around, because it used to be a restaurant. So there's a lot of potential, but could be a little crazy. So as we're, like, Driving. Which I thought when we were in the Poconos, I was in the worst outfit, this purple jumpsuit with a beanie. And he takes me to this like heart shaped hotel. And I'm like, not this outfit, please. No. I was thinking, like, I hope these aren't being like romantic in a weird. This heart. You know what I mean? Like, heart shaped. I'm like, okay, okay. Not looking too good. Long story short, it was that night.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Danny Marie
That we left that place. Nothing happened. So I was like, oh, cool. It was like, that was fun. So then we're like driving, driving, driving. And he literally goes, oh, my gosh. Do you know? And it was pitch black. It was like 10:00 at night. And he's like, well, we were just.
Bam Margera
Having such a good road trip. Listen to all of our favorite music. And I noticed that that was the house that we wanted to fix up and everything. So I just pulled over and the butterfly. I had these rings in my hand once. Once I kissed her at the. At the Dove property. I threw the rings near the waterfall. They're still sitting in there somewhere. But we haven't been back long enough to go find them again.
Bonnie
Okay. So he proposed to me with the rings. Pick one. And then threw them.
Danny Marie
Yeah.
Bonnie
Such a band move.
Danny Marie
And I'm like, okay. And then he, like, sat up against this little wall and he's like, will you marry me? And I'm like, are you fucking around? Like, are you kidding? Or whatever. Because we were like sitting that little butterfly garden, and it was just like super cute and romantic. He knows I'm not, like, all blingy and need anything crazy. So it was just really fun. And I. And I was like, well, duh. Yeah. Like, if you're being serious. You know, we kept it quiet for a little bit. Then of course, those little people out there got a hold of my finger and we're zooming in. Yeah. I started asking questions. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess I should say something that a really good friend of mine asked. So I told her yes. And then that's how we know Leanne with us. So you're in good hands with her because she's like, can I talk about it? And I just looked at him. I'm like, well, whole. I'd rather someone talk about it from us before they start talking.
Bonnie
Before the rumors. Yeah.
Danny Marie
So then I was like, all right, let's talk to her. And here we are. It's been crazy.
Bonnie
So what does 2024 have for Bam and Danny? What do you Guys have planned. I know you guys are doing all these horror cons and we're booked to.
Bam Margera
Like October, which is exciting to die and save the world or what we, we skate.
Danny Marie
We saved. Well, I'm the big animal.
Bam Margera
Save the world or what we can of it toward.
Danny Marie
So like, he's skates and I'm like, check. You know, we were in New Orleans and the people are just walking over the pit bull. I'm in all glam.
Bonnie
Yeah.
Danny Marie
And I'm like, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. Glam's gone. I'm like holding the pit bull. He was all broken.
Bam Margera
Everybody walking past the dog, like, it's just searching for food, starving to death. They're just like, look at, they didn't want anything to do with it. And she gets out, she's all done up like this because we have to go to a horror comic con.
Danny Marie
I just picked the dog up and.
Bam Margera
We'Re in the ghetto at the skate park, under a bridge. They were probably like, who is this.
Danny Marie
Chick that just pulled up in a.
Bam Margera
Purple Bentley to save this dog with fleas all over?
Danny Marie
Don't care. But then, you know, the skater community, people don't understand how rad they are. So these two like, rad chicks come over their sk. Do you need help, these skater chicks? And I said, well, I just called the SPCA and she happened to have a 561 number. West Palm Me. I had the same area code. So she scooped them right up, took him out of hell. And it's just, it's a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder, but I can kind of fit in anywhere. And, you know, the skate parks we go to unfortunately aren't very, you know, they're not in the best areas. So you see a lot.
Bam Margera
You always find weed there.
Danny Marie
Well, yeah, true, but you know, you see like the cats and the dogs and it's, it's, it's sad because to bring up the world we live in, everyone wants to play pickleball and tennis and basketball. When the skate parks are like in the middle of bad places that you really don't want to take your six year old after five, five o'clock clock. So those are the places that we're hitting up and opening my eyes to. This world needs to change.
Bam Margera
We'll be sitting there planning. I'll be like, I thought the rule is no phones. Hold on, I'm saving a goat from IO right now.
Bonnie
I'm like, give me that.
Bam Margera
You really are doing that.
Danny Marie
Yeah, we have, like, a phone thing. But I'm like, hold on. I have to pledge on this elephant real quick.
Bonnie
That is hilarious.
Danny Marie
It's true. I'm like, most of the time I'm on my phone, I'm just yelling at the mayor of LA or screaming with PETA.
Bam Margera
What are you doing? I'm calling 91 1.
Danny Marie
Why pedal him a duck?
Bam Margera
Because this guy got arrested for trying to save doctors. He's getting a trespass. Yeah. What's up with that Wayne situation?
Danny Marie
Wayne and Zoe. Rooster, you're gonna see, hopefully the Today show here soon. They're ready. I love that.
Bonnie
I want to tell you guys, when Jay and I first got together, we immediately went out on tour, and it's the best bonding experience for a couple. It will either make or break you. You guys are either meant to be together or not. Once you guys are in a car, fucking traveling all the time, like, working together, that's when you really figure out what you guys are about. And you fall in love fast because you get to know somebody so personally and so quickly.
Bam Margera
Totally. And there's a lot of things that I didn't know. You know, if we show up in Indiana and I have a bunch of friends there to do a Comic Con and we're only there for two days, like, she'll be, I know you guys got to see him. I'm sorry. But we're having date night tonight. Because, you know, I'm like, cool. You know, I never had the courage.
Danny Marie
I'm like, it's 8pm Everybody come along to date night? Yeah. I'm like, it's 8pm we're done. He's like, another hour. Nope, I'm in bed by 10. Date lines on. I need Keith Morris.
Bonnie
I think he needs you. Because nobody has ever really been able to not tell you no. Or, like, I don't even know if the word. I think it's. You guys run wild together.
Danny Marie
You just have more structured, wild, structured wives. Yeah.
Bam Margera
It's 10:00, and I'm just like. You have came to yourself. I'm like, Apollo. You've tamed the Apollo. You've got me in bed by 10. I'm very impressed. You've tamed the Impala.
Bonnie
And then you really just go to sleep. But you don't have sleeping problems or anything.
Bam Margera
No. I was always on so much Trazodone and Seroquel, and I thought I needed that to sleep. But at the end of the day, I'm so exhausted from skating and going to the gym and, you know, Having such a fun, productive day that I sleep on time.
Bonnie
Are you 100 sober?
Bam Margera
Yeah. Raw dog and just a couple puffs of weed.
Bonnie
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's sober to me. Yeah, totally.
Danny Marie
And he has a medical card. People relax.
Bonnie
Yeah, I don't think we. There's, you know, there's. Everybody has a different definition of sober.
Bam Margera
I'm completely dream water and skateboarding is my medicine.
Danny Marie
Just killed that the other day. They're like, well, then you're not 100 sober. There's different levels. Like, he's fine.
Bonnie
There's California sober and there's straight edge. I'm straight edge. My husband's California sober. He'll drink and he smokes weed all day, you know, so some people have to have a vice. You know, I would love to have a. A vice, but my anxiety, the way it's set up, I can't.
Bam Margera
So it's like, I have to meet my vice.
Danny Marie
See, weed for me is something that just levels my brain out. So that's why I'm never going to.
Bonnie
Call a vagina a vagina again. It's strictly me from now on.
Danny Marie
That's. That. That was the word of the month when we first started dating at the restaurants. I was like, can we not say that in the middle of 4pm Jeez. He'd be like, is her meat on the menu? I'm like, oh, my God. Just going to go to the bathroom.
Bonnie
Oh, my God.
Bam Margera
Shock value. That's what I'm after. You know, how to handle it.
Bonnie
I think you guys are adorable. And I love seeing him so happy. Like, that really makes me happy to see him.
Danny Marie
Well, I'm just learning. Yeah, learning. Like, the. You guys and the fans that have loved him so much are teaching me, like, where he really was. I mean, I knew he had some things going on, but when. When I'm, you know. The best part about working with him and seeing, you know, helping run the show and make sure he's downstairs and the fan, you know, I say hi to them. They're so. Most of the time, they've been really nice to me. I know. It's just the trolls, his fans that are in line are very sweet to me.
Bonnie
They're not iconic.
Danny Marie
They're not coming up, trying to spit in my face or whatever. But, you know, they're teaching me so much about him. And I love all the people that are coming up and saying that you're helping them get through recovery or they're just so proud of you to be back on the skateboard. It's amazing to see the skateboarding community. They're so stoked to see him back on the skateboard.
Bonnie
There's so many people rooting for me.
Danny Marie
I'm learning like what a badass skateboarder he was. I.
Bonnie
And you have to watch all the ckys.
Danny Marie
You have to make her watch Slumber one day.
Bonnie
Yeah, you have to watch them because then you'll really like bits and pieces and pieces.
Bam Margera
The last one she saw, she's like, so hold on. Ryan Dunn was drunk at the bar in Westchester and he saw that one. He's like all drunk. He's like, if we were to Iceland tomorrow, I would have gone off that water, that 40 foot waterfall. I'm like, but you didn't last time cuz you wished out. Yeah, but if we were there tomorrow.
Danny Marie
I would do it.
Bam Margera
I'm like, sign this right here. Next day he wakes up and I'm like, you signed the contract and I bought crazy. Take it to Iceland. He's like, of a. So we get there, we didn't even scope anything out. I found a random ass barrel on the side of the road, sealed it up, pushed him off first by accident.
Danny Marie
She's like, I'm like, you did that to Ryan.
Bam Margera
I'm like, you pushed him in? What if something bad happened? I'm like, we really didn't think about that. We were.
Danny Marie
I looked at him, I'm like, that.
Bam Margera
Was you guys crazy.
Bonnie
What's your relationship with Billy Valow now?
Bam Margera
It's good. We saw him at his last tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We went, went up with Jimmy Pop from the Bloodhound Gang and it was rad catching up with him, but quiet, quiet, quiet. You know, the last time, the first time he went to treatment, we were at the, the Chateau Marmont. He. And we just got a deal signed for him to be on Warner. They got a really good deal and he was drinking a lot and he knew I had a prescription to Adderall and he kept asking me for one and I'm like, dude, I've given you enough. And. And he's like, I'm like, you know what? Just because it's you, I'm not going to say no. So he like started hyperventilating and an ambulance came and that was the first time he went to treatment. And I think Warner Brothers found out that I was the one that had my prescription that he kept asking for. Which kind of sucks because, you know, I didn't drink at all. I. I didn't drink Till I was well, 20, 23 years old and all that. And. And when I was hanging out with him in Helsinki, Finland, I was so mesmerized by just how rad he was that when we stayed in the same hotel together, he opened up the mini bar and cracked open a beer. I'm like, you're just drinking in the day. I thought people only do that at night time. He's like, I'm like, I'm not gonna let you do it alone. So that was the first time I've been introduced to, like, day drinking. Tables turn to where I'm the bear.
Bonnie
When did you start using drugs?
Bam Margera
Probably about.
Danny Marie
Tell the truth.
Bam Margera
I'd say 24 or 25. No, I know.
Bonnie
I would have thought it would have been so younger.
Bam Margera
We were in Davos, Switzerland, doing this thing called the Winter Jam for MTV. Some 41 was playing, and this band called Guano Apes and Jackass was there to host the whole thing. And I remember we were staying at this nice hotel in the Alps, and somebody, like, started putting these lines out on the table. And that. That was the first time I tried it. And I had a massage booked at. Right. Right after that. I'm like, oh, God, I got a massage. All right, if everybody else is doing it, I'll do it. I did it. I was getting a massage, like, done. I can't even relax.
Bonnie
God, I couldn't imagine my first bump of coke and I'm getting massage. I would go crazy. There's no way.
Bam Margera
But never. I was terrified of a needle. Never messed with heroin or. Or anything.
Danny Marie
I was surprised.
Bonnie
What's the hardest drugs you've done?
Bam Margera
Probably just method coke. Anything upper.
Bonnie
Yeah, you know, like, shocking.
Bam Margera
I don't know why people would do heroin or Valium and show up to a bar and fall asleep into their beer. It makes no sense.
Bonnie
Yeah, I used to be one of those. I love. Yeah, Xanax was my love. I was an upper person and a cold. I used to call myself, like, I.
Bam Margera
Would only take that if I was on, like, an airplane, but, man, you have one beer on a Z. Xanax. You're Larry.
Bonnie
Oh, lit. Just lit. It's a party.
Danny Marie
There's the closet problem.
Bonnie
I appreciate you guys coming on the podcast, and I look forward to seeing you guys just blossom. And I really feel like this is a new friendship for all of us, too, because my husband loves you and I love you, so.
Danny Marie
Yeah, I already told Jen and Jesse. Yeah, we need to. Us three can be on the bus, and you guys can get your own bus.
Bonnie
Are you guys gonna Come see us on tour.
Danny Marie
San Antonio.
Bonnie
Yay. Yeah. Come to a show. We always have so much fun. And it's. I have. The girls have their own bus. The boys have their own bus. And I know all the. The band would love to see you guys.
Danny Marie
And I'll steal Melissa. I want to let them know Melissa Quinn, Michael Quinn. They're. They love you. So the boys will be together. We'll steal her. Melissa actually manifested this. I love her. I love that saying that you and I would get along great. That was literally two days later. I had your phone number. I'm like, this is crazy.
Bonnie
I love it. I'm so happy that we were able to work this out.
Bam Margera
Jameson.
Danny Marie
No. Well, hopefully Jenna can come, but Melissa and Michael will go meet her then. Yeah.
Bonnie
Yeah. Well, thank you guys for coming. What you got? You want to shout out your social so everybody. I'm sure everybody knows where to find you, but you guys go ahead.
Danny Marie
Dan Marie, official Captain Cream stain or.
Bam Margera
Captain Crumb.
Danny Marie
Just save a dog.
Bonnie
Just Google Bam Margera. You guys will find everything.
Danny Marie
I think maybe the fans are realizing, like, they wanted to see me every now and then, but I'm just gonna blast them with shelter dogs. So please adopt.
Bam Margera
Yeah.
Bonnie
I watched your story the other day and it was all dogs. I was like, I love this girl.
Danny Marie
I go through my moments where I'm like, calm down.
Bam Margera
Everybody wants to give shout outs and plugs. Everything. I give a plug to Curiosity Donuts from Doylestown. They're awesome.
Danny Marie
I love that they only open on.
Bam Margera
Wednesdays because they make them so fresh.
Bonnie
Oh, my God. We'll have to try it on tour. We'll go on tour. We'll literally say Bam recommended this and do a whole TikTok rock on it.
Danny Marie
It'll be awesome.
Bam Margera
Black rifle coffee. Rock and roll.
Bonnie
Thank you guys so much for coming.
Danny Marie
You're stuck with us.
Bonnie
I appreciate you.
Danny Marie
Me too.
Bonnie
Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I'll see you guys next week.
Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde – Episode "TBT: Bam Margera"
Introduction
In the "TBT: Bam Margera" episode of the Dumb Blonde podcast, host Bonnie engages in a candid and heartfelt conversation with Bam Margera and his girlfriend, Danny Marie. Released on February 20, 2025, this episode delves deep into Bam's tumultuous journey through mental health challenges, his strained relationships, and his path towards sobriety and personal growth.
1. Bam Margera’s Struggles with Mental Health and the Florida Shuffle
Bam opens up about his prolonged battle with mental health issues and his experiences within the flawed American mental health system, particularly highlighting the infamous "Florida Shuffle."
Extended Treatment and Financial Strain
Bam shares, “[05:16] I was in treatment for the longest Florida shuffle. You could call it the Guinness Book because it was like two and a half years at $660,000.”
Critique of Mental Health Institutions
He criticizes the system, stating, “[05:26] The mental health system in America is broken.”
Bam’s Mandated Treatments
Bam describes the never-ending cycle of treatment centers: “[24:18] They kept me in there for another 90 days and another place. I did everything right... they just kept doing it.”
2. Relationship Dynamics with Family and Guardianship Issues
Bam discusses the strained relationships with his family, particularly focusing on his conservatorship-like situation orchestrated by his mother and April.
Conservatorship Details
“[24:18] They were part of the whole treatment thing. Like, I got a guardian just like Britney Spears, and her only answer to everything was lock me up and throw away the key.”
Betrayal and Trauma
Bam recounts the betrayal by his guardian: “[29:27] She decided to buy every 911 call of me... When we looked at the body cam footage, my Aunt Missy, my mom, they were all in on it.”
Legal Battles and Custody Issues
He explains the complexities of his custody battle: “[44:32] I’ve been fully booked with these Comic Cons every weekend to pay these legal fees.”
3. Meeting and Relationship with Danny Marie
Danny Marie shares her journey of meeting Bam and the challenges they've faced together.
How They Met
Danny describes attending a pool party where Bam was present: “[04:17] We have been on the road... We have two dogs... booking a lot of Comic Cons.”
Initial Connection
She highlights their instant connection despite their tumultuous pasts: “[13:22] She was trying to rescue a cat... It was a good balance because I'm not a skateboarder, but I can kind of fit in anywhere.”
Engagement and Future Plans
The couple discusses their engagement and future together: “[83:07] We are engaged now... planning this really well.”
4. Impact of Ryan Dunn’s Death
Bam reflects on the profound impact Ryan Dunn's untimely death had on his life and career.
Deep Friendship and Loss
“[59:09] We met in ninth grade... he became a part of the crew... Anytime we did an MTV interview, he would always be right there.”
Emotional Turmoil Post-Ryan’s Death
Bam shares how Ryan's death led him deeper into substance abuse: “[62:32] It was like, well, now we can't make a CKY video. If we do another Jackass, it won't be the same.”
Struggles with Professional Life
He discusses the challenges of continuing his career without Ryan: “[51:12] Made me pay all this treatment money, and they're filming behind my back while I'm in treatment.”
5. Bam’s Journey to Sobriety and Structured Living
Bam details his path towards sobriety, emphasizing the importance of a structured schedule and personal accountability.
Adopting a Structured Routine
“[69:10] All I needed all along was a structured schedule that's fun... a structured bedtime schedule.”
Sobriety Milestones
“[65:32] I’ve been sober since August 1st... the longest I've been sober.”
Healthy Lifestyle Changes
Bam discusses his strict diet and physical activities: “[90:16] I have a strict diet. The only thing I eat is meat.”
6. Future Plans and Engagement
Looking ahead, Bam and Danny share their excitement for upcoming projects and personal milestones.
Tour Plans and Projects
“[87:04] We’re booked to do horror cons... saving a dog... opening my eyes to.”
Engagement and Wedding Plans
They reveal their engagement story and plans for a future wedding: “[83:07] He proposed to me with the rings... planning this really well.”
Notable Quotes
Bam Margera on Mental Health System:
“The mental health system in America is broken.” — [05:26]
Bam on Conservatorship:
“They just kept doing it and doing it... I knew that there was nothing that you could do to get out there.” — [25:05]
Danny Marie on Relationship Dynamics:
“It's about Phoenix and our relationship... It's not about her, it's not about me.” — [47:24]
Bam on Sobriety:
“I'm completely dreaming water and skateboarding is my medicine.” — [90:45]
Conclusion
The "TBT: Bam Margera" episode offers an unfiltered glimpse into Bam's life, revealing the depths of his struggles and the strength he's found in his relationship with Danny Marie. Through honest dialogue, Bam and Danny highlight the urgent need for systemic changes in mental health care and underscore the importance of supportive relationships in overcoming personal demons. This episode serves not only as a personal narrative but also as a broader commentary on the challenges faced by individuals battling mental health and addiction issues.
For listeners unfamiliar with Bam Margera's history, this episode provides a comprehensive understanding of his past, present, and the hopeful steps he’s taking towards a healthier future.