TBT: Bunnie & Meme Q&A

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde – "TBT: Bunnie & Meme Q&A"

Host: Bunnie XO
Guest/Co-host: Meme
Release Date: December 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this open and laughter-filled Q&A, Bunnie XO and her friend Meme answer fan questions ranging from the hilarious to the deeply personal. Covering relationships, body image, self-care, trauma, careers, and embarrassing moments, the duo balances relatable real talk with humor and vulnerability. Listeners are treated to candid insights into their lives — from favorite cheat meals and pets to essential advice for women in their 20s. The tone is warm, irreverent, and always rooted in acceptance and healing.

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Key Discussion Points & Memorable Insights

1. Speaking to Animals or Every Language?

• Would you rather be able to speak to animals or every human language?
  • Mimi: "Let me walk up to a horse and be like, 'saw, dude.' ... If I could communicate with Chachi... Sometimes I wonder, are we on the same level?" (04:12)
  • Bunnie: Leans toward speaking every language; has been learning Spanish with Duolingo for 200+ days, can order a beer, but isn’t fluent yet. (04:55)

2. Favorite Desserts and Cheat Meals

• Meme is obsessed with dark chocolate brownies, especially the Dolly Parton brand:
  • Mimi: "The Dolly Parton brownies—so good, you guys. Like, they are so, so good. I don't know if she puts crack in them or something..." (06:26)
  • Bunnie: Prefers crème brûlée but had a hotel room service experience where it tasted like hand lotion, turning her off for a while. (07:52)
• Discussion on giving oneself grace during periods and fluctuating eating habits during that time. (07:27–07:51)

3. Meeting Jelly Roll & Music Scene Transitions

• How Bunnie Met Jelly Roll:
  • "We met at Las Vegas Country Saloon in 2015. He was opening for the Moonshine Bandits... No one even knew who he was." (08:45)
• Transition from Rap to Country:
  • Mimi says the country music scene has been unexpectedly supportive and welcoming. (09:39)
• Celebrity Encounters:
  • Starstruck moments with Wynonna and other celebrities, reflections on meeting famous people and realizing how much smaller they are in person. (10:08–11:55)

4. Sex, Relationships, and Real-Life Intimacy

• Candid talk about sex lives and busy schedules:
  • Mimi: "My husband is so vanilla. He doesn't like any of that shit. He is like, just ride me and get off." (12:10)
  • Schedules are packed, and sometimes intimacy is replaced by cuddling up and watching TV together.
  • "Our thing is, like, we love crawling into bed and just watching a TV show together... that's like foreplay for us." (12:36)

5. Sleep Habits, Aging, and Mattresses

• Reveling in adjustable beds and how getting excited about bed comfort signals growing older.
• “I've never felt as old as I did when we finally got one of the beds that, the head goes up. ... That's how I really felt old.” (13:24)

6. Biggest Insecurities, Confidence, and Body Image

• Meme: Wishes for more muscular legs, less like her dad’s arms; struggles with anxiety, feeling the need to apologize for it. (18:29–19:22)
• Bunnie: Discusses plus-size insecurities, overcoming them after becoming a mom, and the journey to radical self-acceptance.
  • "After I had Cash, I worked so hard ... not having insecurities because I felt like it held me back so much.” (19:38–20:32)
  • Discussion of how confidence is learned, not innate:
    • “Why can't I learn confidence?” (25:02)
  • Making weight-loss for health, not as a path to self-love. (24:01)
  • Notable quote: “You could be behind that person pushing them for years... but until the person themselves decides to make that change, nothing’s going to change that.” (23:34)

7. Me Time and Managing a Public Life

• Struggles to disconnect because of workaholic tendencies and building careers online.
  • Meme: “I just always feel like idle hands are of the devil, and I know that's trauma from my childhood.” (27:46)
  • Difficulty taking true time off; even when they try, running their business and social presence always calls.
• Both find solace in small escapes—car shows for Bunnie, short meditation or quiet moments for Meme.

8. Parenting and Letting Kids Find Their Way

• Honest challenges of co-sleeping, clingy little kids, and handling transitions as children grow up.
• Reflections on letting kids, especially daughters, change their dreams and not imposing expectations on them.
  • “She recently decided that she doesn't want to be a doctor anymore. She wants to pursue music... but, you know, it's not our journey.” (33:10)

9. Heritage and Discovering Roots

• Meme tells the story of discovering she was, in fact, not Italian but “white trash and Brazilian,” and the family secrets uncovered via DNA testing.
  • Meme: "My dad told me my entire life I was Brazilian and Italian... Not any Italian at all... My whole life is a lie. I just found this out when I was 41." (37:02–38:31)

10. Mental Health, Sobriety, and Healing

• Holistic Journey Began:
  • Sparked after severe depression and suicidal ideation in 2020, following two years of sobriety.
  • "When I got that suicidal ideation, that was a different level of fear because you don’t trust yourself..." (39:00)
• Former alcohol and pill dependence, and how quitting was only the first step in recovering mental health.
• Critical look at “wine mom” culture and how alcohol abuse can hide in plain sight—especially among women.
  • “A lot of Southern women hide alcoholism behind wine drinking.... Are you really relaxing or are you covering up something?” (41:19)

11. Leaning on Meditation for Anxiety

• How mindful breathing and meditation have radically changed Meme’s ability to manage anxiety, intrusive thoughts, and overall mental state.
  • Mimi: “When you learn how to control your breath, it is a game changer… I have so much control now over my thoughts because of meditation.” (52:57–53:18)

12. Open Relationships and Boundaries

• Authentic advice for someone interested in open/poly relationships:
  • Meme: “Talk about how you're feeling...if that bothers him, then I don't think you should have to give in to what he wants if he’s not willing to compromise for what you want.” (55:28–56:13)
  • Emphasis is on communication, agreed-upon boundaries, and ensuring mutual benefit—not one-sided arrangements.

13. Careers, Hobbies, and Loving Your Lifestyle

• Should you monetize what you love, or just work to pay bills?
  • Bunnie: “Don’t find the thing you are most passionate about and make a career out of it. Let hobbies be hobbies.” (58:03–59:38)
  • Both encourage working jobs that make your preferred lifestyle possible, but not necessarily making your passion your job to avoid burnout.

14. Advice for Women in Their 20s

• Both women urge listeners not to settle, to have fun, and delay worrying about relationships or career tracks.
  • Meme: "Fall in love with yourself. Love will come once you’re in love with yourself. ... Be selfish with your time because you are only going to be in your 20s once.” (46:38–47:15)
  • Both share stories of not letting parental or societal expectations box their paths.

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• "If I could communicate with Chachi... Sometimes I wonder, are we on the same level?" – Meme (04:24)
• “I refuse to get on a scale during my period. So I'm like, you know what? It's a fucking free for all.” – Meme (07:29)
• “You could be behind that person, pushing them for years... until the person themselves decides to make that change, nothing's going to change that.” – Bunnie (23:34)
• “You never get to go back. ... Let hobbies be hobbies. Let me time be me time and just find something you enjoy doing.” – Bunnie (47:11/59:38)
• "Don't worry about a relationship... No dude ever brought any sort of worth to my relationship with myself or to my life. ... Invest in yourself." – Meme (46:00–46:38)
• “When you learn how to control your breath, it is a game changer, because anxiety, you're hyperventilating. ... I have so much control now over my thoughts because of meditation.” – Meme (52:57/53:18)
• "Pay attention to why you're drinking as opposed to how you're drinking." – Meme (42:22)
• "You are only going to be in your 20s once... make those memories." – Meme (47:09)
• “Don’t let it be one-sided. ... If you see him sleep with another woman and he tells you you can’t sleep with another man, you are going to end up being really resentful and ... that’s really bad for a relationship.” – Meme (56:34–57:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Q&A Intro & Favorite Questions: 02:30–04:43
• Desserts & Cheat Meals: 06:12–08:23
• How Bunnie Met Jelly Roll & Music Scene: 08:45–09:39
• Celebrity Encounters: 10:08–11:55
• Real-Life Sex Talk: 12:01–13:10
• Sleep Habits & Signs of Aging: 13:24–13:59
• Biggest Insecurities & Self-Acceptance: 18:24–25:32
• Me Time & Work/Life Balance: 27:35–30:49
• Parenting Challenges: 31:26–34:07
• Heritage DNA Story: 37:02–38:48
• Mental Health & Sobriety: 39:00–42:46
• How to Leave a Domestic Relationship: 43:34–44:51
• Advice for Young Women & Careers: 46:00–49:08
• Anxiety Coping (Meditation): 52:06–54:29
• Open Relationships & Boundaries: 55:28–57:14
• Career Advice/Reframing Passion: 58:03–61:21

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Tone and Takeaways

Bunnie XO and Meme deliver raw honesty, raunchy humor, and genuine advice. They encourage listeners to prioritize self-love, set boundaries, manage mental health proactively, and not be boxed in by expectations — all while embracing life's embarrassing, messy, and beautiful moments. The episode offers relatability for anyone navigating relationships, body image, parenthood, or career confusion.

For listeners:
If you want candid, uplifting takes on real problems from two women who've lived (and laughed) through it all, this episode will make you feel seen — and probably leave you with a craving for Dolly Parton brownies.

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Transcript

[Bunny]

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[Mimi]

Much.

[Bunny]

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[Shopify Narrator]

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[Mimi]

Like that.

[Shopify Narrator]

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[Dumb Blonde Host]

Stage and the site is live that.

[Shopify Narrator]

We opened a store and need a fast checkout.

[Bunny]

Stage thanks.

[Shopify Narrator]

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[Bunny]

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[Shopify Narrator]

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[Mimi]

Bonnie, who used to be a former.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

[Mimi]

Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of.

[Bunny]

Fucking money and be a rock star's wife.

[Mimi]

That was my goal as a child. And here we are.

All right, how should we kick this off?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Just like that?

[Mimi]

What's up guys? Mimi and I have decided to do a Q A with you guys today.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I feel like, this is the most requested things people want is a Q A or advice or anything along those lines. Yeah, no, we had, like, a lot. So I'm sorry if we don't get to everyone. Like, you guys emailed, you guys DM'd. You guys commented on the post that she put up, and there was a lot. So we sifted through them. We chose some of our favorites and. Yeah, let's dive into this.

[Mimi]

I just love this guy so much.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

He's been getting all the love today.

[Mimi]

He's just very active.

[Bunny]

He.

[Mimi]

You know, he got a million views on another video on Tick Tock and he just. He's the star of the show.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Big. Yeah, he's just. You're too famous, Church.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I think all of us to shame.

[Mimi]

You're normally laying down.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I know he wants to be a part of it today.

[Mimi]

Yeah, he wants. I'm looking at him on the camera right now. Say hi.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I think it's my favorite part of the podcast is when he pops his little head up above it.

[Mimi]

All right, well, just here. All right. We're just gonna hang out.

What are you doing, Bubba?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That's the best thing I've ever seen.

[Mimi]

All right, well, we're just. I gotta. Some people like parrots on their shoulders. I've got an exotic bully.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Let's dive into these questions. There was a lot. There was. I mean, some people sent us their life stories and, like, it was a lot to go through.

[Mimi]

Not asking questions anymore.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So we're just gonna dive off into one of my favorite ones in here. Let me see where it's at. Because I thought it was such a good question. And we're starting out strong. Would you rather be able to speak to animals or speak every language to animals?

[Mimi]

I don't care to talk.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I already knew. You're already knew?

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You said fuck people.

[Mimi]

Yeah. No, Let me walk up to a horse and be like, saw, dude. Yeah, let me. Dude. If I could communicate with Chachi.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You already do.

[Mimi]

Sometimes I wonder. I'm like, are we on the same level? Like, I literally can hold conversations with him, and even though he doesn't respond back, I know he's listening.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You guys, like, have this really special bond. I don't see many people have a bond like you and chat.

[Mimi]

Yeah, he's my baby. I love him to death.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Sweet baby.

[Mimi]

My son.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

This one asked Stephanie said, what's your workout?

[Mimi]

What about you, though? Hold on.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

What about you?

[Mimi]

What would you rather talk to?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

What would I. I don't know. I kind of wish I would be able to speak every language.

[Mimi]

Yeah, well, you've been trying to, like, learn.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I'm doing duolingo, and I've been doing it for 200 days.

[Mimi]

Yeah, you have. Almost a year.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes.

[Mimi]

Say some.

[Bunny]

Say some.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I can't hold the conversation yet.

[Mimi]

Say some. Just words.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, muhair means woman. And then, like, you know, like, cabeza. Yeah, I can. I can order beer, like, pinche to cerveza or, like, do cerve, por favor. Yeah.

I feel like I can read it really well. I can. Like, when I go shopping, I can understand the people talking, but I think he speaks Spanish.

[Mimi]

I said migusto, and he turned. What is happening over here? He's like, I don't know. It's freaking out.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You all right? I feel like he responded to your Spanish.

[Mimi]

He did.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Are you Spanish?

[Mimi]

I knew it. I knew you were a Spaniard. It's the gold chain.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You okay?

[Mimi]

What's the matter?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

It's his little Cuban links.

[Mimi]

He's on alert right now.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I know. He's very, like.

[Mimi]

I think he's staring outside and he's catching a shadow. I don't know what he's looking at. Do you?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

No.

[Mimi]

Okay, well, Josh is acting up today.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

What is your favorite? Desserts or cheat day meals?

[Mimi]

Desserts.

I love a good brownie. It has to be dark chocolate.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

She really likes the Dolly Parton.

[Mimi]

The Dolly Parton brownies, so good, you guys.

[Bunny]

They will make you slap your mama. Okay.

[Mimi]

Like, they are so, so good. I don't know if she puts crack in them or something, but even Jay. Jay and I had two separate conversations. I told Bug, I was like, sorry, Dolly, if you're watching this, I'm cussing. I'm trying not to cuss, so you can use it. I told Bug, I was like, those Dolly Parton brownies are lit. I was like, they are so good. What's in them? And she's like, nothing. I don't think. And then Jay comes in an hour later, goes, dude, those Dolly Parton brownies were bomb. And that's when I told you about them.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. And so I went to the store that night, literally got them. Me and Olivia made them the next day.

[Mimi]

Day.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And they're like fudge brownies. And you add this, like, package of fudge into it, and I don't know, they're, like, not cakey, but they're not, like, chewy. Like, they're the perfect mix of them.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I don't know what she puts in there. Crack.

[Mimi]

Amazing.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Amazing.

[Mimi]

So good.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah, go buy Dolly Parton brownies.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

The only time you really cheat is, like, during your period.

[Mimi]

It's my excuse.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I would say, like, cheat meal because.

[Mimi]

I refuse to get on a scale during my period. So I'm like, you know what? It's a fucking free for all, but I need to stop doing that because it's really not good for your body.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

But you just jump back onto your.

[Mimi]

I literally just, like, give myself grace for a week, and I'm just like, it. I'm just gonna eat the chip, I'm gonna eat the bread. I'm gonna do whatever. And then as soon as I'm, like, three days into my period, I'm like, okay, I'm eating better.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I would say my favorite would probably be creme brulee. That's hard to find, like, a good creme brulee.

[Mimi]

I used to love it. And then I ordered it one night from a.

From room service at a hotel. And I was so ready for it. I was, like, drunk. Wanted it, bit into it. It tasted like hand lotion.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

It probably was. Yeah. That's so gross.

[Mimi]

Because creme brulee is a texture of.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Bunny]

Lotion.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly. And it.

[Mimi]

It tastes very perfumey. Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And I would freak.

[Mimi]

No. Somebody. I might have been rude to the room service guy or something. And he just put. Probably. I'm sure I swallowed a few babies. I didn't.

Along the way.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Oh, my God. I can't. I can't even. But where did you and Jelly meet?

[Mimi]

We met at Las Vegas country Saloon in 2015. In Vegas, we tell the first time you say that.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I know, but like, this. It could be new.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

First time you laid eyes on him. Yep.

[Mimi]

He was opening for the Moonshine Bandits, and I was like, what is this?

[Bunny]

What is this, man?

[Mimi]

This big Southern boy.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Were you at the concert? Were you backstage or, like.

[Mimi]

So there was not that many people there. So it was more of, like, everybody was walking around. Like, it was, like, a big room and just with a stage. So everybody was walking around. But, yeah, we were backstage, like, drinking and stuff like that. But, like, there was. It wasn't Jay. Wasn't. Nobody even knew who he was. He was opening for the Moonshine Bandits. You know, like, he might have had a little pop in Nashville, but people on the west coast didn't know who he was. We were there for the Moonshine Bandits.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That goes into my next question that someone asked. They wanted to know, how has your transition been going from rap to country?

[Mimi]

It's been smoother. Than I thought. Yeah, they have been. We haven't met any yet.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

They're so welcoming.

[Mimi]

Yeah, they have literally been so welcoming and just so non judgmental. I mean, at least not to our face. I mean, whatever they say behind closed doors, they're entitled to, but yeah, no, everybody's been like, so, so sweet.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You guys have made some really nice friends. I love that. While we were at CMT Awards, you had a little special something backstage with Wynonna.

[Mimi]

Oh, I love Wiona.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I'm glad I got that caught on camera too. That was such a special moment. She. I mean, she literally, like, snuck up on you. She had her eyes locked on you and just beined.

[Mimi]

Oh, she's so sweet. Like, she's just everything that you would. And she's so tiny.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, I do.

[Mimi]

You don't think. Yeah, I thought she was gonna be, like, super tall. She is tiny.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That's been my biggest like. Like, epiphany with even like just being meeting people you see online or in movies and everything.

[Bunny]

Everybody's so much smaller.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So much smaller than you.

[Mimi]

Except for me.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You and Cali, like, tower over people. Everybody. You guys are already naturally tall and then you add heels.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And you guys are much taller. Everyone's so tiny.

[Mimi]

5, 5, 5, 6. And I tower over everybody.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Like, it's crazy.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

It's so wild. Like, even some of the musicians we.

[Mimi]

Met when you met Carly Pierce is tall.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes, she is tall.

[Mimi]

She's very tall.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. When you met Eddie Vedder, I didn't expect him to be like, you kind of bent down a little bit to give him a hug, and I was.

[Mimi]

Like, he was a little nugget.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. These people look so much bigger. Super little screen. Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah. They're very, very tiny. It's crazy. The camera really does add height. Not even pounds, but height.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Really? Yeah. That's crazy.

[Mimi]

Blake Shelton's tall as too.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, Gwen was too, like.

[Bunny]

Well, she.

[Mimi]

I didn't get to see her.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, yeah, she was tall because she was standing next to. She performed with Carly. Carly. And Carly's already kind of a little bit taller.

[Mimi]

Carly's taller than me.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

She walked by me and she's taller than me.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, they were very Comparisons.

[Mimi]

Wow.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

I would picture. I would think Gwen would be tiny.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I mean, I guess when you look at her with Blake, like, he's already such a tall human. She doesn't look super small next to him. So she's got to have some height to go.

[Mimi]

She's probably like five, six.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

She wears Those tall ass.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

She does. She wears huge shoes. Yeah, yeah.

This one. Should we add dirty stuff to this? Sure, yeah. Does Jelly let you squirt on his face? My husband refuses. But it feels so good.

[Mimi]

My husband is so vanilla. He doesn't like any of that shit. He is like, just ride me and get off. Literally, give me a blowjob.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Ride me.

[Mimi]

Get off.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Someone asked how you guys get in your mood. How does it.

[Mimi]

Dude, we're so busy. Like really the last thing we ever think about is sex. I mean, I think about it all the time and I'm sure he does too, but we are just so busy and so tired.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, you guys have to schedule it into your calendar, literally.

[Mimi]

And it's like by the end of the night, like, he's had a day, I've had a day. And we're just like. Our thing is like we love crawling into bed and just watching a TV show together because it's like we don't ever get to really do that. Especially like during tour and like that. Like so whenever we can just like have a normal sit down and watch a show, that's like foreplay for us.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. Oh, that. Me and Jason, you know, Jason's at home raising our kids and he's working and trying to do all the household stuff too. I'm constantly working. So by the time we like get into bed, it's like.

Like it's just.

[Mimi]

The last thing I want to do is get my heart rate up. And that's how I know I'm getting old. Because normally the 20 year old me would be swinging from the chandeliers. And me now I'm just like, I am not about to do cardio before I go to bed when I gotta wake up and do it again like that.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I've never felt as old as I did when we finally got one of the beds that. The head goes up. Yeah. And that, that's. I can't sleep without it. When we tour and like we go places, I'm like, man, I really wish that my bed like came up at least 3 inches right now because, yeah, that's how I really felt. Old was the day I got excited about my bed being able to be.

[Mimi]

We'll never not have a sleep number.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Oh, it's crazy. I don't have a sleep number. We got a tempur pedicure. But it's just, it's a life changing. Like you don't realize how good it feels on your body and you can lift your feet up and. Yeah, it's been great.

[Mimi]

I love the feet thing. Jay hates it.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Really?

[Mimi]

He hates it.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Are you guys are individuals, right?

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Or is it one whole bed? Ours is one whole bed. No.

[Mimi]

So it's individual heads and then the feet are connected. So now he wants separate beds. Because I literally, I'll sleep like cradled, like with my head up and my feet.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Zero gravity.

[Mimi]

Yeah. Like I do. And he hates it. He's like, please stop. I'm like, God, why? I tell him, I'm like, why do.

[Bunny]

You got to come into bed so early?

[Mimi]

I'm like, you used to come in at like 3 and now you're coming in at 10:30. What is happening going on? Yeah. I'm like, what is going on?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That's funny.

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[Dumb Blonde Host]

This person said.

What is your biggest insecurity? Because I mean you do exude confidence.

[Mimi]

Like I think people misunderst, misjudge having confidence with not having any insecurities you can be confident and still be insecure.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask. Like, what would an insecurity have? Because I think. I don't think people realize that. Like, everyone struggles with that. No matter how confident you look online or in person or whatever, someone's gonna still have an insecurity. Yeah.

[Mimi]

I mean, I think I wish I could grow muscular legs and not have my dad's arms. And like, you know, I think women pick their bodies apart all the time, which is why I'm a perfectionist with my appearance and stuff.

Probably, like, my anxiety is an insecurity because I'm constantly having to apologize to people for this. Like, sorry, I just can't hang out. Like, you know, or like, if people. Or if I'm in the middle of a podcast. Hey, if you see me wiping myself down with a ice pack or.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know, like, so, I mean, that. That's an insecurity.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. It doesn't always have to be physical. It could definitely be like, you know, mental or it could be, you know, like, there's certain things like that. Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah. What about you?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That one's hard because I've gone through this huge self love journey over the last. Since I had cash.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, like after I had cash that I really don't give any more. Like, it's really hard to say. Like, it's an insecurity.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. Like, after him, I worked so hard, hard on, like, not having insecurities because I felt like it held me back so much because I. I really let almost my insecurities cripple me.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So I feel like if I admit to having an insecurity, it's kind of like a crippling thing to me. Like.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, before it was always my weight, you know, being plus size and I've been plus size my entire life that I started taking even as a child. Oh, yeah. Like, not like at like Olivia's age or anything, but quickly. Like right at the edge of puberty was when my PCOS set in, which I didn't know at the time was pcos. So I just gained weight dramatically. But I was always a thick girl, too. Like, even as.

[Mimi]

Listen, are in my DM for you all the time, girls and guys. Yeah.

[Bunny]

Sorry, Jason.

[Mimi]

I'm always like, she's married. Like, what do you want me to do?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, no, I was always like, thicker. Even like when I played sports as a kid, Like, I was never like a bean pole. My body's just not structured that way at all like, just being naturally thick. That was a huge insecurity until I let it not definitely defeat me any longer. And that's been like, huge, because even when I lose weight now, I think, like I talked about that before was like, getting through the hurdles of, like, self image before I decided to lose weight because I got to my biggest. It was a very, very unhappy place. But I was like, you know what? This, like, if I just, like, let these insecurities, like, take a hold of me, it's like a miserable life to live. So I took a hold of the insecurities and I. I don't give a. If someone thinks I'm plus size. Like, it doesn't affect them.

[Mimi]

I think age too. Like, the older you get, ladies, the more you do not give a at all about what people think about you. You're just. You get to a point where, like, I can't please you. I don't give a. I am me. I'm gonna pull whoever I need to pull. The people who love me are gonna love me. Like, if you don't with me, I do not care.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. You get to a point, like, you said it. It probably has to do with age 2 because, like, I had cash around 29. So, like, you know, going into my 30s and I'll be 31 this weekend. And it just really made me realize, like, even if you. If you thought badly of me, like, this whole time, like, oh, God, I wouldn't wear a crop top because, like, what if someone thinks badly of me? Yeah, I wouldn't want you in my life if you were thinking badly of me.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, so, like, that's been a huge thing for me was like, in that insecurity pieces, like, if you thought those things about me, why the would I want you in my life?

[Mimi]

Yeah. No, I couldn't agree more.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So, like, it's like, people have accepted me. The people who have accepted me accepted me being plus size. It's not a. I used to hide behind you and, you know this, like, big oversized clothes when I first met you. Yes. That's all I would wear. And I was like, it's like I thought that was like camouflage. Like, someone doesn't know I'm plus size under here if I just wear oversized shirts and leggings. No, I'm still fat regardless, you know? So, like, if I wear the crop top and jeans, it's no different. At least now I'm comfortable, you know, and I feel pretty. Before, it was like you only could choose certain clothes.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Sort of thing.

[Mimi]

I can't wait till Jay gets there because he's such a cute little squishy baby. And I just feel like, because he is in front of such a huge audience, just critiquing him all the time. All the time. That, like, he always feels like he has to hide behind jackets and fl.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And I'm like, layers was another thing.

[Mimi]

Yeah, baby, you don't gotta do that. Like, just be the little squish that you are.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. And just. Yeah. Like I said. And Jason struggles, too. Like, sorry to put your, you know, info out on there, but, like, he struggles being a bigger dude also with, like, his insecurities, and I've really tried to help him, and all you can do is love those people, because it does not matter. Jason has told me I was beautiful since the day we met, but until you see it yourself, nothing's going to change that.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You could be behind that person, pushing them for years.

[Mimi]

Oh, yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, you're certain, like you said, you tell him all the time how, like, you know, you love everything about him that doesn't matter until the person themselves decides to make that change. The same thing with weight loss.

[Mimi]

Yep.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, like, this past, like, two months, I've lost 30 pounds, and I'm more appreciative of those 30 pounds now that I've loved myself, because I wasn't doing it to love myself. Right. That was the biggest, biggest difference I've ever done was I didn't. I'm not trying to lose weight to love myself. I'm doing it because I want to be healthier.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I want to be able to, you know, like, go jump on the trampoline with my kids and things like that, which I wasn't able to do at that weight. So I'm doing it for a whole different reason than I ever have before, and I appreciate it so much more now. And I've kept it off. Like, I have not fluctuated at all, which normally I would have probably off the bandwagon a long time ago and already started, like, eating food again, but. Yeah.

[Mimi]

No, I love that for you.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. That was a whole. Another rant.

[Bunny]

I know.

[Mimi]

I think people needed to hear that.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know, and I think speak. I can talk about stuff till I'm blue in the face, but people don't believe me because I've had work done or I, you know, work out all the time. But hearing it from somebody who is. Who really battles weight issues and hearing you be able to be confident, I think they need to Hear that?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Because. And I, I always had the misconception that you had to be born confident or you just were naturally confident. And that's not the case. Like, it can be learned. And I told myself that I was like, I didn't come out of the womb knowing how to drive a car or do hair or do our lifestyle that we're doing now. All those things were learned. So why can't I learn confidence?

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So that it was just a learning journey. It wasn't that I had to be born with it or, like, I was naturally confident because that's not the case. And what actually helped me, and I don't think I've ever told you this, was you and Viking Barbie were, like, a huge part of my confidence journey because I got close with both of you guys and I got to see that even the industry's most, most perfect humans, like, in the eye of the world, like, you and Viking Barbie are, like, perfect, you know, I love you, but, like, you still struggle.

[Mimi]

Oh, yeah, you, you.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You don't see yourself like, how the world sees you. You see yourself how you see yourself. And to me, I was like, man, so even if I looked perfect, even if I would still struggle, I would still have anxiety or depression because, like, Viking Barbie opened up about, like, her mental health also. And you were very open about your mental health. And I was like, oh, so being skinny doesn't make my depression just go away? You know, like, that wasn't the case. And I was like, damn. I was like, I don't think I ever told you guys that. But, yeah, that was a huge part of me, like, making that flip is being closer to you guys and realizing, like, looking perfect doesn't make you mentally stable.

[Mimi]

You're going to pick the. You will pick yourself apart no matter what.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly.

[Mimi]

I'm sure Alex girl looks in the mirror and is like, I feel fat today. Meanwhile, she's a just gorgeous being, you know?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly. Yeah. And I didn't. But I never saw that because you never get close enough to people, Right. That are look that far away from you, you know? Like, I never thought of my life being this right. Right now. So to be able to be close and, like, you are so open about your mental health online, which helps. I mean, more people than I think you'll ever know.

[Mimi]

Well, I don't have a choice. I'm a weird bitch and I don't want people to think I'm stuck up. It's just more of, like. I'm not saying stuck up. I'm not guarded. I'm just. I have panic disorder.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You're raw and real and like, that helps so many people, like, realize that it, it doesn't take those things to be mentally stable.

[Mimi]

Speaking of food, our subs are on the way. I've been checking the phone.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I was like, did you see me?

[Mimi]

I was so excited. That's why I've been checking this. I'm like, they're on the road. I just hope it's for us and not the house. Cuz I just ordered the that for them. Let me see. See?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Hold on.

[Mimi]

I'll tell you, right? Let me get my glasses on. Sorry, guys, we are hungry. We haven't pulled it all day. Or here at the house.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

It's our third recording.

[Mimi]

Yeah, it's been crazy. Yep. This is ours on the way.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yay.

[Mimi]

Perfect.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

This is a good one because I, I, I chose this specifically because I know this is the struggle of both of ours. Kimberly wants to know, what do you do during your meantime mean or me me time?

[Mimi]

Do we really have.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Do we have.

[Mimi]

When I'm off, I'm literally making clips for TikTok. I'm posting on YouTube shorts. I'm posting. I post on Facebook. Like, it's Twitter.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know, like, I don't. I just always feel like idle hands are of the devil. And I know that's trauma from my childhood.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

But I just can't break it. I have to always be doing something.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Because March was hard for you to like. And it. You said it was a month off. It wasn't a month off, guys.

[Mimi]

You sound like my husband. He even said that last night. I was like, I've had a month off in five years. He was like, when did you have a month off? I was like, no, I said March. And he was like. And then actually, technically I had one last March too, but I was still doing.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You still made content. Yeah, no, there, there's not been a month off. Like a step away from it. Because. And I get it though, cuz like, if you sit in your thoughts for too long or you're just like stagnant, it's hard.

[Bunny]

I just can't sit still.

[Mimi]

Like, even if I'm at home. Like, okay, I finally have trained myself to, to be able to lay on the couch. Maybe a little too good now, but before, I would have never laid on the couch before. Jay taught me how to relax.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Because I literally would. I'd be around everybody, just nervous energy, cleaning, doing something. And Jay would finally be like, sit the down.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Bunny]

Quarantine.

[Mimi]

Is actually what kind of made me have to sit down.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

He's like, how many times are you.

[Bunny]

Going to clean the kitchen?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know, like, sit the down. We're trying to watch a movie, you know.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. That's innocent. Hard for both of us. Like, we both struggle on that. Because also, things like that we do. We don't attribute to work. Right. Because we've just been doing it for so long, you know, it's.

[Mimi]

We're just building.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly. And, like, it may. Like it. Exactly. It's just part of the machine. And so, like, that wasn't really a month off. Like, a month off would be us, like, literally putting our phones down, which is like, you can't do that.

[Mimi]

There's no way.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly. There's literally no way to make that possible.

[Mimi]

We built our entire life online. So if. If it's not us pushing the. The Patreon, the podcast, the Tick Tocks, the everything. Yeah, yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, absolutely.

[Mimi]

Then people. People have attention spans of gnats.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. You know, literally, like, they'll forget you in two seconds.

[Mimi]

Oh, yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Or.

[Mimi]

Or what happens is people are like, well, where is she? Is she okay? And then they start speculating, and it's just like, bro. So, yeah, I'm just. It's just better if I stay here.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

If I don't post, you know, there's a problem.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I would say my me time is like, when we do our car shows, because I think that's the only. It's the two times a year my husband and I go out and I put my phones down. Like, I even tell the salon, like, I am not relevant for the next three days.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And I know that six days a year isn't much, but that is, like, my moments. Like, my, like.

[Mimi]

And I still managed to bother her.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

No.

[Mimi]

While she's there.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, I just. I. I can't stress that enough that, like, it's so important to at least have, like, something, you know? And, like, even though it's not a whole month off, there were days that you very much, like, stepped away. And I was very proud of you. Like, you just. You did. You. You know, you. You've started meditating, which I think is incredible. I'm a little jealous. I don't have a quiet space to meditate ever.

[Mimi]

I just go out front or out in the backyard, and my kids would be. Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Up my ass 24 7. If I'm home, my kids are with me. Yeah. Like, I don'. Even pee alone. Like, Jason had to start being like, all right, when mom goes poop, like, everyone out of the bathroom, cuz Cash is just standing there. What are you doing? Then Olivia's like, look at this thing I made. And like, I know that, like, I'm not home much. So I try to use those moments to be like, wow, that's a beautiful art project. Smoking used to be my vice because the kids couldn't be around it. And I'm sober now.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I have nowhere to go.

[Mimi]

She's like, I am present. Yes. Very, very present.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes.

[Mimi]

Oh, God, no. Being sober is the worst this age.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Right now, having a two year old. I just got Olivia out of my bed, okay? So she's now in her bedroom in her beautiful little bed, and Cash has decided he can no longer sleep alone. I. There was no. There was no transition. It literally went from one kid to another. And now I'm sleeping with another kid in my bed. And it is.

[Mimi]

He won't sleep with Liv.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

No. No. And they both are like the weirdest, like, movers.

[Mimi]

Bailey is the worst in the air.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Does she move like that?

[Mimi]

Oh, she'll slap you in your face. She turns around, she's like, head at the end of the day, but she like, like, makes noises in her sleep. They do too. What are you doing?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Straight talking in their sleep.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, Olivia will have a full conversation in her sleep.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Cash is just like, cries sometimes in his sleep. And I don't know what it is. Like, I don't know if night terrors are out. I don't know why he'd have night terrors.

[Mimi]

From the room with the womb.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. Literally, I'm just like, what is up with these kids? And like now he's in our bed, you know, and it's like, it is. It's the. The young age is the toughest now that I'm at, like, she's at almost 7 this year. I'm like, wait, come back. Like, no. You know, now she's like, I want to go sit in my room. And like, I want to go do these things.

[Mimi]

Oh, wait till she's a teenager.

[Bunny]

Bailey.

[Mimi]

I can't even get. She'll eat dinner with us. And then she goes up to her room like, hey, where are you going? Yeah, I'm like, where you going? She's like, I'm going to my room. I'm like, all right, well, let me know if you miss me, you know, like, while you're up there, that age.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, and it is. It's. It's rough having a little. They are up your ass 24 7, you know.

[Mimi]

Oh, Bailey. Bailey's three years away from being 18. Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And it. I mean, driving alone, I don't think she's ever.

[Mimi]

Bailey's always going to live with us. I really don't think she's ever going to branch out on her own unless she goes to college. But.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

She recently decided that she doesn't want to be a doctor anymore. She wants to pursue music. And I'm like, okay, well, that's happened now.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Nice. I know.

[Mimi]

I was bummed because I was. I really loved how headstrong she was about wanting to be a doctor.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

But, you know, it's not our journey.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know, so it's like, well, she's.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Flip flopped a lot. Maybe give it a year.

[Mimi]

She's a Gemini. She's gonna flip flop her whole life. But luckily she has a Capricorn moon, and I'm really betting on that Capricorn moon to just pull her together.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. You're like, come on. Yeah, come on, doctor.

[Mimi]

Come on, Capricorny, let's go. Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Or even like something like in a field that she's very passionate about because I knew that the whole doctor thing, she was doing it for seizures and like, things like that. So, you know, that's something. She was really passionate.

[Mimi]

She has a very caretaker personality. So she loves helping people. She finds herself worth and helping people.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

So. Which I. I wish I did.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I'm a. I'm a people pleaser. You know that about me.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I love it.

[Mimi]

I'm like, let me work. That's my. That's what brings me happiness. You know, makes me feel good. But no, she's a. She's definitely a caretaker. So I, I thought the medical industry would have been great for.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Someone said they wanted to know what your heritage was, and their guess was you are Latino.

[Bunny]

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[Mimi]

Trash and Brazilian So my Volvo was 100 Brazilian and.

My mom is white trash roots from Kentucky.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

But you didn't always know this, what have you.

[Mimi]

I've said I've told the story before, but I'll tell it again. My dad, a good old bill, okay, let me just tell you that.

Told me my entire life I was Brazilian and Italian. So I've told everybody I'm Brazilian and Italian, you know, like, and you know because it sounds so exotic. And this guy, I don't think he thought I was his kid, came to me one time and was like, hey, I'm gonna come out and visit you, but I want you to take this test that I took to find out what percentage everything you are. And I'm like something like, oh, my dad wants to find out our heritage and stuff like that, you know, so he comes out here Swab robs me and, you know, gets me to send the thing in or whatever. Meanwhile, he was low key trying to figure out if I was his kid, because my mom had just admitted that my sister's dad wasn't her dad. Oh, yeah, we're white trash around here. But anyway, so I think in the back of his mind, he was like, is this kid mine?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know?

[Mimi]

So we get our test results back, and there's not any Italian at all. I'm like, hey, Bill, are we Italian? He's like, well, no.

I'm like, well, no. I'm making My whole life is a lie. And I'm telling you, I just found this out when I was 41. Yeah.

[Bunny]

So when I finally got to meet.

[Mimi]

My mom, and I was like, mom, where are we from? Apparently, I come from, like, a long line of, like, witches from Southern Kentucky.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Wow.

[Mimi]

Yeah. And I was like, oh, so we're just white trash?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

It makes sense.

[Bunny]

White trash gypsies.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Oh, I love it. Yeah.

[Mimi]

So I'm like, it. I'll take it. It's better than being Italian, I guess.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. This next question is, when did you begin your holistic journey?

[Mimi]

I began that probably when I started getting sober.

Technically, I started that in 2020 whenever I felt my first bout of suicidal ideation. That was. I will never forget laying in my bed, and literally, I felt so tired and just like, I didn't want to be here anymore. The thought of living to, like, 50 years old made me, like, I was exhausted, and I was just like, I can't do this anymore. And I didn't even realize, like, how bad that that gets. I've always not kind of scoffed at.

[Bunny]

People with depression, but I didn't understand.

[Mimi]

It because I had anxiety. I'm a go getter. I'm gonna get up, get out, and do something. If I'm having a panic attack, I'm gonna run through it, you know? And when I got that suicidal ideation, that was a different level of fear, because you don't trust yourself, and you're just like, holy shit, this is dark.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know, and so, you know, me being a person who tries to fight and figure it out, I was like, okay, first of all, I'm never gonna let this overcome me. Secondly, I need to figure out why I'm feeling like this. And, you know, by that time, I had been sober about a year and a half, two years off alcohol, sober off pills almost since 2017. I think it was probably late 2017 that I stopped taking pills. So I think you Know, it took two years for my brain to just even think about healing after all the drugs I'd been on. I'd been on Xanax since I was 20 something years old, you know, that's right there alone is neurological damage.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Pills, alcohol. I mean, I'm talking, like, I drank. Like, it was scary. I could drink a whole bottle of Belvedere and still be standing.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. And people don't realize the tolerance you can build up having drank as much.

[Mimi]

Oh, yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

As you had, like. I mean, you know, I'm sober, but I did have, like, this much wine the other night. And when I say this much wine had me turned tipsy. I was like. I remember I had, like, a year ago, you know, eight Red Bulls and vodkas. I drink this much Chardonnay, and I'm, like, spinning on the couch. I'm like, Jason's like, you good? And I'm like, I. A little percolating over here, you know.

[Mimi]

Mine will you up too.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

It was a Martha Stewart one too.

[Mimi]

I love, and I'm probably gonna get a lot of for this, but I love how a lot of Southern women hide alcoholism behind wine drinking.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Oh, I have stories.

[Mimi]

Yeah. But a lot of women hide their alcoholism behind wine. And I get it. That's their only way to relax. But, I mean, are you really relaxing or are you covering up some?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Those same people will, like, scoff at, like, marijuana smokers.

[Mimi]

Yeah. Or judge people who don't go to church every day.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Exactly. And I'm like, Sunday, you're literally like, you know, mimosas before you're taking your kids to school.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, those are the things. Those are the choices you're making.

[Mimi]

That's very. And it's not just Southern women, too, in Vegas are the same way. Except it's not wine, it's champagne.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah. They all get lit on champagne at 10:00am like, it's nothing.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

I'm like, man, I wish I could do that.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

I wish I could be that free.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I could never imagine.

[Mimi]

And we're not judging.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

No.

[Mimi]

We're just saying, like, you know.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mimi]

Pay attention to why you're drinking as opposed to how you're drinking.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. What are you masking?

[Mimi]

Yeah, exactly. What are you running from? Are you in an unhappy marriage? Are the kids driving you crazy? You know, listen, if I had kids, I would drink bottles of wine, too. Okay, so we're definitely not judging at all. But I was just saying that, you know, you can be an alcoholic and not even realize it.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, exactly. Well. And, like, because they don't see that as alcohol abuse or anything like that, you know?

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That's so true. Like, I feel like sometimes it goes in hand in hand with, like, men who are beer drinkers. It's just a beer. Yeah. You know, you're like, five packs in. It's no longer just a beer.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, the whole bed of your truck is full of them. And it's the same thing, like, with women in their wine.

[Mimi]

Some troll the other day was talking about my husband, and he's like, he's not sober. I saw him pound a beer at a concert the other day. I said, my, first of all, that's a lie.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

What?

[Mimi]

And secondly, my husband doesn't drink beer. Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I don't think I've ever seen him touch a beer ever.

[Mimi]

My husband, Will would never drink a beer.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Ew.

[Mimi]

Yeah. Jason.

Oh, no. It was just crazy to me. So when you said that about the beer, I was like, oh, this is hilarious. I gotta tell this.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

What would you tell someone that is fresh out of a domestic relationship?

[Mimi]

Domestic violence or, like, domestic marriage?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You said relationship.

[Mimi]

Domestic, probably. Relationship.

Allow yourself, Grace. You know, you're gonna probably go back seven more times.

You're gonna be mad at yourself. You're gonna be mad at that person. You're gonna think you're making the wrong choice. You are going to be addicted to the chaos.

It's like you go through, like, withdrawal. It's like a drug withdrawal from that person.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You touched on this in the Kale podcast, both of her podcast and your podcast. And I feel like that's very insightful. So I would say to hear more about that, I would go listen to those podcasts because you guys really went in depth with, like, how you felt in those moments.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And, like, coming out of those and, like, how you guys are now on the other end of your domestic relationships. And you said something really, really, like, kind of caught me. And you said, you always think they're gonna do better, but they never do.

[Mimi]

No, they never do. Like you.

It's like you want to fix them and you want so badly for them to be the person that you need, and they're just never going to be that person.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

They're literally just trapped in their own toxicity. And until they want to actually really get help. I don't know if you can ever really calm a violent nature like that in a human. A man that beats on women. That's a different breed.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes.

[Mimi]

You know, I don't know if that's ever really Fixable.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And what did you say about the narcissism? Is that like they don't want people knowing about it.

[Mimi]

Oh, yeah. Because they don't want to be embarrassed.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

They don't want to be embarrassed about themselves. They don't care that they hurt you. The guilt isn't there that they hurt you.

[Mimi]

They don't want to look like monsters to other people.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes. It's the ego.

[Mimi]

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So very, very easy.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Tell people. Tell. You know, if you need help, find the help that you.

[Mimi]

Yeah, tell people. But just know that if you do tell people about it and then you run back to them, you're gonna have to deal with that too.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So it's just be ready to wipe your hands clean.

[Mimi]

Yeah. It's a whole cycle. And once you are ready to get off the hamster wheel, you will.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Hamster wheel. That's a good one.

[Mimi]

That's literally what it is. You're just spinning your wheels.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. What would you tell a young woman with big dreams in her 20s, relationship or life advice.

In your 20s?

[Mimi]

I would tell you, don't worry about a relationship. I would say have fun. And our food is here.

I would say have fun.

You're 20. Literally, love is gonna be there. If I could go back and talk to 20 year old Bunny, I would eliminate half the dudes I dated and wasted my time with.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

No dude ever brought any sort of worth to my relation, to my relationship with myself or to my life. I was always me, bringing in the money, helping, trying to fix things, them, chasing them, dealing with cheaters and that dude.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Invest in yourself.

[Bunny]

Fall in love with yourself.

[Mimi]

Love will come once you in love with yourself. Literally, once you fall in love with yourself, you'll find somebody who will know how to love you because you will know how you want to be loved.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes.

[Mimi]

And when people, you know, get into their 30s. Okay, cool. You want to start settling down? Whatever. I still think. Think you should still be having fun.

[Bunny]

Find your groove.

[Mimi]

Find what you want to do. Don't live for everybody else. Live for yourself. Because this is. You need to be selfish with your time. Yeah. Because you are only going to be in your 20s once.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You don't get to go back.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yep.

[Mimi]

You know, so make those. You don't have to have a career in your 20s.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

No.

[Mimi]

You don't need to know what you want to do in your 20s.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

No.

[Mimi]

You literally just need to have fun.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes.

[Mimi]

Do everything that you love and do it twice.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. You know, exactly. Like, I think it's so important like, everyone is so pressed for you to find out what you want to be when you're 18.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

No one knows what the they want to be when they're 18.

[Mimi]

Weird.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

When you're 20. When you're 21. Like, I spent.

10 years behind the chair, and you have no idea when I stepped away and like, I retired from behind the chair and went full time with you. How many of my friends reached out within the beauty industry and was like, how'd you step away? I didn't realize how many people were so miserable. The. The hair community is filled with people who thought that it was a quick answer. When we were 18.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

We wanted to please a parent or it was a cheap college to go to or something along. That there are so many miserable people out there working behind the chair because they're so afraid to go do something else.

[Mimi]

And at 20, not just hair, but in life.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes.

[Mimi]

Like, if your family has a family business or, you know, if your parents. Parents make you go to college.

[Bunny]

I mean, go to college.

[Mimi]

Have fun. Everybody change careers.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. Like, don't try to be who you're.

[Mimi]

Get a few STDs.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Life in your 20s.

[Mimi]

Get it all out of the way.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Just do it. You know? Just. Yeah.

[Mimi]

Do it, dude.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. It's so crazy. I. I was so scared because I thought for sure whatever I decided to be when I was 18 is what I had to be the rest of my life.

[Mimi]

And I'm so glad I told my parents to go themselves.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Happy. I'm not.

[Mimi]

He's like, I'm going to do whatever I want to do.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

I've been doing whatever I wanted to do my entire life.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

And I don't regret it. The only thing I regret in my life is the men I allowed to hurt me.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. Wow.

[Mimi]

And you don't realize that until you're so far removed out of it and just in a different headspace. You're like. You're like, golly. What?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You can't see it when you're in it at all.

[Mimi]

Like, why did I even deal with that?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. It's looking back that you then realize.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And hopes that someone is listening right now that needs that help.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That step away. Because you can't be on the other end looking back if you're constantly in it. That.

[Mimi]

And just. You just. Men don't really bring much value. Especially men nowadays. I couldn't even imagine.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I'm so lucky. I felt so. They did.

[Mimi]

Yeah. I feel so bad for you guys having a date right now.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And I could never.

[Mimi]

I feel so bad for them.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Literally. I. If I was that age, Bailey, I'm.

[Mimi]

Gonna freak out when she starts really dating.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I couldn't do it. It that. It's just too much. Like I'm so happy that I'm just. I'm so happy where I'm at and like I was so lucky to find that person when I found them. And it was a very young age. Like I met him when I was 18. So like we were young. But I'm so thankful for it.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Absolutely not. Just saying that because you're editing this.

[Mimi]

We love you. We love work. Daddy, should I get our sandwiches? If not, because I'll eat while we answer questions. You know me. I do not care.

[Bunny]

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[Mimi]

As long as I have a sandwich in my mouth, I'm fine. Are you bringing the sandwiches? Okay, wait, wait. Don't tease me. You've been working me to the bone all day. Like Jason. Leave all this in. I don't even know what we ordered. There's only two people here. What did we eat? I'm starved. What did we order? Did they give us.

Whose order is this? This is not ours. Okay? This is ours. Oh my God. That's theirs. They combined ours because I ordered right behind each other.

All right, well, don't mind me smacking in the wind.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

What's the best thing you have found to help with anxiety and the constant nervous, scared feeling?

Meditation. I was gonna say your new meditation has been incredible meditation. Yeah.

One of my stylists has been struggling with, like, anxiety and stuff like that. Come to find out, I think she's having heart palpitations like you did, and they. They wouldn't able to find it, but they kept telling her, anxiety, anxiety, just, like, go on anxiety medication or whatever. I was like, before you try, like, med. Like, try meditation, you know, and I told her about you.

[Mimi]

Heart palpitations are normal. They say that they're normal. Yeah, it's fucking weird, but I don't. I don't think they're normal.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That's weird.

[Mimi]

Mm.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Wow. Yeah, Jason gets them a lot, but I thought it was from his sleep apnea.

[Mimi]

Meditation has been the most healing thing because when you learn how to control your breath, it is a game changer, because anxiety, you're hyperventilating. You know, you're not getting enough oxygen or you're getting too much oxygen. So to be able to acknowledge that and be like.

Take a deep breath and then breathe out like, it's. It's phenomenal what it can do for you. And literally, I have so much control now over my thoughts because of meditation. I haven't done it in two days, and I can feel a difference. But, like, this other thing I've been doing, I saw this girl on Tick Tock who said, if you want to rewire your brain every time you think, a thought that you don't think belongs to you because you can say other people's thoughts too, or you can think other people's thoughts. One you say, that's not my thought. Pass it. And you can pass it to another person, which I don't.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Passion over here.

[Mimi]

You guys don't want some of my thoughts, but another thing you can do is say change. So now anytime anything negative pops into my head, I say change. And it's become such a habit now. So, like, things I don't like change, and I can really slowly feel myself changing.

Because a lot of things that I wouldn't have. Would have participated in before, I don't want anything to do with because I just don't feel like it does any good for me, you know? And, you know, like, people saying online or, you know, like, normally would have pissed me off, and now I'm just like, go, heal. You know, like, I'm just over it.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Go Heal.

[Mimi]

Yeah, literally. Go heal, bitch. I. That's what I say to all these fucking grumpy ass trolls online. I'm like, you are too old to be this toxic. Like, golly, do better with your life.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Unhealed like you said, and just toxic. People, like, find themselves online.

Yeah. And if, like, they hide behind it.

[Mimi]

They all find each other.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mimi]

They all look same too.

Literally.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That's the truth. A lot of them won't even put profile pictures up. They hide so much behind it. It's crazy. This person Kelly said, I want to know how to move towards an open relationship. And I know you guys don't have an open relationship, so we might not be able to give too much advice on this, but I thought this was an interesting question. She said, I kind of am into Polygon, but my man only wants to welcome women into the relationship. But I want a relationship. That's because there is no ownership, if that makes sense.

[Mimi]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So.

[Mimi]

So that's how Jay and I are. There's just no ownership.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

We're not here to tell you that you can't do something. You have free will.

I don't. I don't like giving advice to the. For this because.

Everybody'S emotions are different. You know.

I don't want to ever cause problems in people's relationships, but I think the best thing that you can do is communicate. Talk about how you're feeling. Like, hey, I don't want to just have only girls.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

I want to have fun too. And, you know, if that bothers him, then I don't think that you should have to give in to how what he wants wants if he's not willing to compromise for what you want.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

That's just my opinion.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, agreed upon boundaries like you and Jay. Boundaries. Yeah. To your guys's relationship.

[Mimi]

It's an agreement.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know, like, look, I love you. I'm gonna do life with you for the rest of my life, but I don't expect you to only put your dick in me.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Don't let it be one sided. That is ownership.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, and if that's what you're trying to get away from, that's just adding to it. So you need to be able to have your boundaries accepted. And, you know, not. Not that you both have to have, like, your own boundaries, but, like, you guys have to come to a mutual ground because it is a marriage and there is two of you that are making this work.

[Mimi]

That. And you're gonna end up resenting your partner if he's doing everything. If you see him sleep with another woman and he tells you you can't sleep with another man, you are going to end up being really resentful. And in the end, that's really bad for a relationship.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. You could cause yourself more problems. Yes. And accepting in something like this because you're wanting to make it work for one person and in reality, it needs to work for both of you.

[Mimi]

Yeah, exactly. Like, it's not. That's not fair. Does that mean that just because I'm allowed to sleep with other people, I'm running out banging everybody in the world? Absolutely not. I can't.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I feel like so many people think that.

[Mimi]

Yeah. It's so weird. And my team knows because they're with me 24 7. I can't even, even shake people's hands. I'm not gonna let somebody put their dick in me, you know?

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. You won't even touch a rail coming downstairs. No. What the makes you think you're just put a bunch of random dicks? No.

[Mimi]

I'm such an energy person.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. And like you said earlier in the podcast, like, it's an exchange of energy.

[Mimi]

It is.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You're not just to, like, there is something more there. And, like, you have to be very selective with what you're allowing.

[Mimi]

Absolutely.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

How do I find a career? Do I do what I love or just work a job that pays the bills?

[Mimi]

That's a question for you.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

So if I was to answer that.

It'S hard because I have this mindset of, like, I can monetize anything. So, like, if I have a hobby, I'm like, how can we make money off this hobby? Like, it's a really sick way to think. Think. Because then that turns into, like, not being able to have the me time or the hobbies or anything like that. Because I'm constantly like, like, I. I don't know, I'm just that type of person. So I would almost say don't do what you love to do. Like, if you were love something and you're super passionate about it, it will burn you out. You know, find something that you love, love doing that you could make a career out of, but not what you absolutely love. Like, if it. If I guess. I don't know. That's hard too. It's like, you know, a baker, like, you love baking. And I'm gonna stem this back to. I had a conversation with one of my stylists and her boyfriend loves to cook. And like, he. And she showed me the plate. Like, he plates it like, he knows the flavors. And she always said, like, why don't you go be a chef? And he said, because then I won't love to do this. This is my hobby. This is my getaway.

[Mimi]

They say when you love something, you'll let it kill you.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes, exactly. So don't find the thing that you are most passionate about and make a career out of it. Let hobbies be hobbies. Let me time be me time and just find something that you enjoy doing.

[Mimi]

As far as, like, working a regular job, I would. I would work to afford to do whatever it is that you want to do that you can do for the.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Rest of your life. Yeah. Yes.

[Mimi]

You know, like, I had only your lifestyle until I kept my only fans. And that fueled my podcast until my podcast could finally pay for itself as soon as it started doing that. And I even told Mimi, once it reaches a certain number, I'm shutting down my only fans.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

And I did that. You know, so that's probably. I think that's kind of what she was asking, too, is like, do I just work a job that I. I can't stand? And it's like, don't work a job you can't stand, but do something that's gonna help put you in a position to be able to choose what you want to do.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

And work for your lifestyle. That's another thing. Like, you don't so many times, like, you think you. Everyone's goal is to just be this, like, crazy rich.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Like, is that what you really want? I don't want a huge mansion. I could never. I. I would never strive to have the size house that you have.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

That's just me, though. Like, I would rather have, like, tons of cars, you know, because that's just what the lifestyle I want.

[Mimi]

No, I get.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I don't want to.

[Mimi]

I don't like having a lot of money.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

It scares the out of me.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I. I always thought I did for, like. Because I don't know if we're just conditioned from being young. We are.

[Mimi]

Like, you're conditioned. You got to be. Become a millionaire. Okay. Become a millionaire now.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

What? Yeah.

[Mimi]

It's like, you pay so much more taxes than anybody.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You robbed.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yes. Your circle gets smaller.

[Mimi]

You can't trust people. Like, it's just when they say more money, more problems, they really meant that.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah, truly.

[Mimi]

And I think a happy life is just quaint, quiet. And not that I'm complaining.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

I.

[Mimi]

This is the position that I have put myself in, and I'm happy to be Here and I'm happy to be my family.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You're so thankful for it.

[Mimi]

Yeah, so thankful. But you know, it's. It comes with a price and I.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Think me seeing those kind of things and like, like, you know, I, I just personally don't want something big because one, it's a lot of upkeep.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

You know, at first I don't want to clean all that, you know. And I know Jason don't want to clean all that, you know. And so it's like I would be cool. I mean I would be so happy with like literally a four bedroom house so that both my kids have bedrooms and we have you know, an extra playroom for them and then an office in it. That would be so cool with that. But in like hella acreage and then like a shop for Jack Jason, that would be like so goal for me. I don't have to have this like crazy large home. Yeah. That's just not what makes you happy. So I hope that she finds something.

[Mimi]

That a middle ground.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Yeah. Fuels her lifestyle that she strives to have.

[Mimi]

Don't mind me guys. I'm just switching sandwiches.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

She's like, here's some ASMR real fast of my jersey. That's honestly what I feel like. That's pretty much a lot of my questions. I feel like I. We've gotten all the questions.

[Mimi]

I mean you guys sent in a.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Lot but any other ideas you guys want on Patreon, shoot them our way. I know we were thinking about doing a cooking one. Doing some cooking for you guys. Cuz everyone really enjoyed Bailey's cooking episode. You guys really wrote in. Wrote in about. Yeah. Like you guys have used that recipe and have really, you know, enjoyed that. So her and I were thinking about doing that.

[Mimi]

Don't mind me.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Give them a little asmr.

[Mimi]

It's gluten free bread so it's really dry. But it's so good. I love gluten free bread over regular bread.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Really? I need to have her take a bite. I'm good.

[Mimi]

Love you guys. We'll see you later.

[Dumb Blonde Host]

Bye.

[Mimi]

Bye.