TBT: Chelcie Lynn - Murder By Trauma

Summary

Dumb Blonde Podcast – TBT: Chelcie Lynn – Murder By Trauma

Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Claudia (Bunnie XO)
Guests: Chelcie Lynn, Mimi, Haley

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Episode Theme:

In this episode, Bunnie XO and guests delve into the chilling true-crime story of Aileen Wuornos, America’s first notorious female serial killer. Joined by comedian and viral sensation Chelcie Lynn, they dissect Wuornos’s traumatic past, infamous killing spree, and the cultural fascination surrounding her case. With a candid, unfiltered tone, the panel wrestles with empathy, outrage, and dark comedy, all while drawing connections to personal experiences and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meet Chelcie Lynn & Tour Banter

• Chelcie shares updates about her upcoming tour “Two Fingers and a 12 Pack,” first-ever Canadian shows, and the quirks of crossing the border with a criminal record.
  • “We’re hitting up Buffalo, Kentucky, the whole west coast... My website is eatmytrash.com.” – Chelcie (06:03)
• Warm, irreverent chemistry, costume banter, and the group’s dynamic are set early on.
• Bunnie sparks a discussion about makeup, attire, and the daily realities of womanhood:
  • “It’s a Halloween costume in my pants right now.” – Bunnie (07:18)

2. Viral Podcast, Content, and Censorship

• Chelcie talks about struggling with TikTok/Instagram restrictions and why her “real” content lives on Patreon.
  • “All my social media now is kind of watered down on what I really want it to be.” – Chelcie (09:11)
• Patreon lets her run “Tammy Bangs,” a mockumentary about a porn empire—“Oh, you see titties... We show a big hog on there.” (10:29)
• Frustrations with social platforms’ rules spark vivid storytelling and encouragement for listeners to subscribe for uncensored content.

3. Trailer Trash Tammy & Pop Culture Resonance

• Tammy, Chelcie’s breakout character, is modeled after Charlize Theron’s portrayal of Aileen Wuornos in Monster:
  • “Charlize Theron from the movie Monster, yeah, without a doubt.” – Chelcie (12:35)
• The hosts acknowledge the cultural legacy and surprisingly wide affection for Wuornos.
  • “I think she’s the most loved serial killer.” – Chelcie (13:45)

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4. True Crime Deep Dive: The Life and Crimes of Aileen Wuornos

A. Early Life & Generational Trauma

• Detailed breakdown of Wuornos’s horrific upbringing:
  • Born to a 14-year-old mother and a father who was imprisoned for child molestation and later committed suicide.
  • Raised by alcoholic, abusive grandparents; claims of sexual assault and beatings.
  • “Her mother was 14 years old... she had her first child at 15 and abandoned both.” – Mimi (15:00)
• Traded sex for food and drugs by age 11, pregnant at 14, forced to give up her child for adoption.
  • “Aen was trading sexual favors for drugs, cigs, and food by the age of 11.” – Haley (20:12)

B. Prostitution, Early Crimes, and Systemic Failure

• Lived in the woods after being kicked out at 14; early criminal record for assault, firearm possession, and robbery.
  • “She was prostituting at 14. I couldn’t imagine.” – Claudia (22:14)
• Girls’ home staff “just wanted rid of a problem, instead of fixing it.” – Mimi (27:19)
• Bunnie and Mimi reflect on men’s predation and state system failures for abused girls.

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C. Relationships, Betrayals, and Triumphs

• Wuornos married a 69-year-old Yacht Club president at age 20; marriage was brief and violent.
  • “She beat him with a cane... after only nine weeks, he annulled the marriage.” – Haley (32:44)
• Multiple suicide attempts highlight her deep distress.
• Chelcie shares the eerie resemblance and overlap between Tammy and Wuornos’s traumatic background.
  • “When you go through trauma in a family, you learn how to be charismatic.” – Claudia (32:19)

D. Tyra Moore: Romance & Downfall

• Wuornos’s romance with Tyra Moore was her second relationship with a woman; their bond was intense, trauma-laden, and ultimately destructive.
  • “They become trauma bonded over shared abuse and pain.” – Mimi (43:59)
• Tyra never killed but benefitted from Wuornos’s crimes and later became the state’s primary witness.

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E. The Murders – Timeline & Victim Details

• Victims:
  1. Richard Mallory (Nov 1989): Shot & robbed, self-defense claimed in Monster film.
  2. David Spears (June 1990): Shot six times, “Overkill. He did something to her.” – Claudia (47:20)
  3. Charles Carskaddon: Shot nine times, another escalation.
  4. Troy Burris: Two gunshots.
  5. Charles “Dick” Humphries: Police chief, found fully clothed, multiple gunshots.
  6. Peter Siems: Body never found, two women witnessed at car.
  7. Walter Antonio: Four shots to head/back.
• Discuss motives (survival, anger, deep-rooted trauma), methods (“car dates” for sex work), and role of Tyra Moore ("two women spotted near victim’s car” – 54:03).
• “I do believe a lot of these men mistreated her.” – Mimi (47:34)
• The victims’ timeline points to impulsivity, desperation, and a mounting inability to hide evidence.

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F. Capture, Confession, and Legacy

• Wuornos caught via pawnshop thumbprints; Tyra leveraged by police for a confession.
• Eileen’s interrogation: “She doesn’t break. She doesn’t. Nothing.” – Chelcie (61:12)
• Tyra’s phone call betrayal as shown in Monster:
  • “You did this all for this bitch and she just snitched on you.” – Claudia (61:57)
• Eileen received six death sentences; final words:
  • “I’d like to say I’m sailing with the rock and I’ll be back. Like Independence Day with Jesus. June 6th, like the movie. Big mothership and all. I’ll be back.” – Claudia (66:25)

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G. Broader Reflections

• Should Tyra have received legal consequences? Panel agrees she likely played a larger role than the official story suggests.
• Wuornos sold movie rights right after arrest: “That was a power move.” – Claudia (64:08)
• Media’s exploitation and society’s fascination, from crime documentaries to shrines at local biker bars.

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5. Personal Connections & Humor Within the Dark

• Bunnie and co-hosts compare tragic cycles, reflect on system failures, and remind listeners their own stories could have looked different under other circumstances.
• Signature Dumb Blonde irreverence pops up regularly:
  • “I wouldn’t want to eat grandma puss, dude, come on.” – Claudia (38:31)
  • On bingo, mustaches, and fathers flirting at bingo: “My dad’s cheating on me with every lady at the bingo hall.” – Claudia (73:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trauma:
  • “The empath in me has so much empathy for her because of all the trauma that this woman went through… Men fucking suck, dude.” – Claudia (13:03)
• On Censorship:
  • “You can’t post anything anymore… All my social media is watered down.” – Chelcie (09:11)
• On Survival:
  • “At 11 years old, because she has so much pain. She’s just trying to numb.” – Claudia (21:18)
• On Empathy and True Crime:
  • “We’re not making an excuse... but we are having empathy for the woman that she is, the little girl that was hurt inside of her.” – Claudia (47:39)
• On Cultural Fascination:
  • “They sell Aileen Wuornos hot sauce… She’s the best thing that ever happened to that bar.” – Chelcie & Claudia (69:14, 69:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chelcie Lynn tour talk & content struggles: 03:40 – 12:35
• Trailer Trash Tammy origins: 12:35 – 13:45
• Aileen Wuornos’s early life and trauma: 14:45 – 22:11
• Prostitution and systemic failure: 22:14 – 32:19
• Marriage to Lewis Fell & domestic violence: 29:17 – 33:12
• Tyra Moore relationship & betrayal: 34:02 – 44:03
• Victim rundown & murder details: 44:26 – 57:02
• Capture, confession, and Tyra’s role: 57:49 – 62:31
• Death sentence, legacy, final words: 66:07 – 66:56
• Discussion of Tyra’s current life & cultural aftermath: 67:02 – 70:11
• Panel’s reflections, bingo talk, and wrap-up: 71:08 – End

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Final Thoughts

The panel navigates a uniquely raw and darkly hilarious discussion on Aileen Wuornos, blending empathy, pop culture, survivor insight, and morbid curiosity. With engaging group dynamics and notable comedic relief, the hosts not only humanize a notorious serial killer, but also underscore the importance of understanding generational trauma and the failures of social systems.

For more true-crime episodes, lifestyle banter, and comedic takes, subscribe and catch the next Dumb Blonde podcast!

Transcript

[Claudia]

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[Chelsea Lynn]

Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

[Claudia]

Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child. And here we are. What's up, you sexy? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde Today. Yeah, baby. Today we are doing another true crime slash murder mystery podcast. And we have none other than the unrecognizable Chelsea Lynn. Baby. What's up, mama?

[Chelsea Lynn]

I'm great. Thanks for having me back on the pod, dude.

[Claudia]

I love you. Everybody loves you so much.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank y'.

[Mimi]

All.

[Claudia]

Can we just have a moment of silence for this look, though?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Let's do it.

[Mimi]

Ready?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Here we go.

[Claudia]

Okay.

[Chelsea Lynn]

There it was. Yeah.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I love it.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I feel hot. I love it.

[Claudia]

Look, I do my makeup like that on a daily basis. So I mean, that's. That's porn star. That's the I got look.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yes.

[Claudia]

I love that. Yep, I love it.

[Mimi]

The runny eyeliner.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

O, that's so sexy.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank you.

[Claudia]

I love that. What have you been up to?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, gosh, honeys, I've been busy. Little this, little that, you know, little dabble.

[Claudia]

Do you.

[Chelsea Lynn]

A little dabble, do you. Keeping up with the content, the tik toks, the patreons. I mean, you know, just throwing out. I'm trying to throw out as much content as I can before I go on tour. Cuz when I'm on tour, there's no. There's no time to do anything.

[Claudia]

Absolutely. Let's talk about this tour. When does it start? What do you. Where are you going? Who you doing?

[Chelsea Lynn]

O, I go. Gosh, I go out in like three days, so it's coming up quick.

[Claudia]

Oh, my goodness.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, God. We're hitting up first. First show in Canada ever. Toronto.

[Claudia]

Oh, fun. I love Toronto. I've been to Toronto.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I'm excited. We're hitting up Buffalo, New York. We're doing Kentucky, the whole west coast. We had a bunch of California shows and we're worried that Beth and Tina aren't going to be able to get into Canada because DUI is 10 years ago.

[Mimi]

Well, they're real strict.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yes.

[Claudia]

I have a story. Okay, so this might help you. So I was trying to flee the country with one of my ex boyfriends because he had gotten into some Legal trouble. And we were trying to cross over the border into Canada. I had a harassment charge for literally my best friend, Grace, rest in peace, who passed away. I was like, bitch, I'm gonna beat you the fuck up. And she went to the cops and got a harassment charge filed against me because she was scared they would not let me cross into the border because of that fucking charge. But a few years later, I got a sugar daddy out there in Canada who had a shitload of money. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna chance it again. Except this time I flew and they let me into Canada.

[Mimi]

Whoa.

[Claudia]

So if you're crossing the border, they probably won't let you in. If you fly, they just might.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And I've heard it. It's also depends on, you know, the day, on the person, how they feel. So they're gonna have me drive. So Beth or Tina aren't driving. So it's me. And I'm just gonna be like, hey. Like, hopefully they recognize me, you know, so.

[Claudia]

Oh, no, you.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I can't. You guys need to vlog that we.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, we are. I already planned it.

[Claudia]

Please. And let me tell you, it's scary. The Canadian border is scary. They're not nice. Like, it's a bunch of dudes in suits and everything.

[Mimi]

All Canadians were nice.

[Claudia]

Not that work for the government. No. All the other ones are cool as. But the ones that work for the government, no, they were not nice.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Well, stay tuned.

[Claudia]

I can't wait. What is the name of the tour? So if anybody wants to buy tickets.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Two fingers in a 12 pack. That's literally the name of the tour. If that shows you how much fun we're going to have. I've got some new material, so. Yeah, you can buy your tickets at. This is my real website, eatmytrash.com.

[Haley]

That'S.

[Claudia]

I always tell you that is just gold that you have that.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I can't believe I snagged it.

[Claudia]

Dude, how long ago did you snag that?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, it's been a while. It's been at least. Yeah. Seven, eight years.

[Claudia]

Yeah, for sure. You've had it for a long time.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I've had it for a while. And. And every time I say it, people think it's a joke. I'm like, no, that is my real website. Eat My Trash.

[Claudia]

No, I love it. I think it's genius.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank this. Yeah. Yeah.

[Claudia]

I can't believe. Well, we got Haley and Mimi joining us here on the podcast also for the True Crime. And you guys Are. Why don't you guys tell us what your costumes look like? You look like a Mexican peanut butter sandwich over here.

[Mimi]

How do you say peanut butter in Spanish?

[Claudia]

O. Oh, let's figure it out.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah. Hold on. Oh, no.

[Claudia]

Siri, how do you say peanut butter in Spanish?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Here we go.

[Mimi]

Absolutely.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That's what I was gonna say. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah.

[Claudia]

They wanted me to dress up today, and I was like, you know, I love you guys, but I'm PMSing and I'm not in the mood right now. I was like, it's a. A Halloween costume in my pants right now, so.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And that counts.

[Claudia]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That counts, Claudia.

[Claudia]

So let's talk about. Let's talk about your podcast.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, my podcast.

[Mimi]

Yes.

[Claudia]

How's that going?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank you. It's good. We're banging them out weekly. It's called the viral podcast.

[Claudia]

And it's your. It's you and a co host, me.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And my best friend Paige. Gin. We'll have, you know, Maggie, my sister's on there. We'll sometimes have her boyfriend Brett, depending on if she wants him on or not that day.

[Claudia]

So far, he is hilarious.

[Mimi]

And that's real his personality.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And I get messages all the time on a regular basis, and people are like, is he acting?

[Claudia]

And I'm like, you're like, no, no, that's.

[Mimi]

That's Jason's favorite human.

[Claudia]

That's hilarious.

[Mimi]

I don't even stand close.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That's funny.

[Mimi]

Far. He puts Brett on a pedestal.

[Claudia]

That's hilarious. So funny. Paige is awesome, too. Last time Paige was on the podcast, she was farting ranch packets out of her butt.

[Chelsea Lynn]

She's always farting something out.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Always some sort of powder funny something.

[Mimi]

Really take that post down.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, yeah, They've been taking everything down.

[Mimi]

Oh, you guys had the worst luck with Instagram.

[Claudia]

Bad Instagram and Tick Tock. It's up. And it's crazy because you don't do anything bad.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I don't think so. Yeah, but, I mean, they will get you for anything and everything. Yeah, it is. So. And if you look at the vines I used to post. Yeah.

[Claudia]

Oh, I could never. Yeah, it's like different platforms and just.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, yeah. And people are always like, oh, man, I missed the old Tammy videos. And I'm like, yeah, me too. Wish I could do them.

[Claudia]

Any Tick Tock reps that want to help Chelsea Lynn out, please?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yes. And that's honestly why I started the Patreon, because it's like, you can. I mean, I post. That's where the good is.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

You know what I mean? I can't post it. I feel like all my social media now is kind of watered down on what I really want it to be.

[Claudia]

Well, they've taken your Instagram a couple times, right? And they haven't taken your TikTok yet, right?

[Chelsea Lynn]

No, they haven't taken my TikTok. I know. Yeah. Had over a million followers and Instagram was like, no, you're done.

[Claudia]

No, it's so. It's crazy that you spend so much time building a platform on something else that somebody can take away from you at any time.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Claudia]

It's ridiculous. You talked about your Patreon. What do you show on your Patreon? So. And first of all, what's your Patreon link so people can go over.

[Chelsea Lynn]

God.

[Claudia]

I think you guys don't want to miss it. It's great.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank you, honeys. I'm trying to think. I think it's just Chelsea Lynn.

[Claudia]

Okay.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I want to say. Yeah, C H E L C I E. Lynn. I post a lot of. On Patreon. I do. We have a TV show called Tammy Bangs that is professionally filmed.

[Claudia]

It's so good. I saw. I got to see a snippet of it the other day. Like, I love whoever films that.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank you. And me and Clayton. Ferris, my friend Clayton, we write the show and it's about. It's kind of a mockumentary on the Office. It's where Trailer Trash Tammy is. Kind of runs like a. A corn. I don't know if I can. Well, it's. It's. I can say, look how much it's made me. Tik Tok has made me, like, fil.

[Mimi]

You poor baby.

[Claudia]

She has ptsd.

[Chelsea Lynn]

We run like a. A porn empire or porn. You know, and it doesn't show actual porn on the show, but. Oh, you see titties. Yeah, we have a big hog on there. We show.

[Claudia]

A hog is in a male's penis.

[Mimi]

Right.

[Claudia]

Nice.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mimi]

Not you thinking it was an actual.

[Claudia]

I knew Haley did. I could see Haley's face.

[Chelsea Lynn]

So that could never be posted anywhere else but Patreon. Oh, I do vlogs. Like, I wanna. I Wanna post on YouTube.

[Claudia]

There's tons of content.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Tons of content. We do extra viral podcast stuff on there. I do all kinds of stuff on there. I'm popping off.

[Claudia]

Well, if you guys can't make it to her tour, which you should, you guys should definitely go over to Patreon because I'm sure they're gonna be doing a whole bunch of BTs on the tour and stuff like that. And things that you can't see on social media because we are. Our hands are tied with that. We can push.

[Mimi]

So unhinged. You can put anything.

[Claudia]

No, we got in trouble.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Really?

[Claudia]

Oh, yeah. We had the horror Olympics on there and they were like, we need to take this down.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I didn't know that.

[Mimi]

Yeah, it was because it. She showed too much pleasure when she was getting fisted.

[Chelsea Lynn]

My God. I had a. How dare anybody enjoy being fisted. Right?

[Mimi]

I think you enjoyed it more.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I had a. A meeting with somebody from Patreon before I joined on there.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And we were talking. He was kind of going over the rules with me on what I. You know, posting stuff. And he basically was like, you know, like. And it was like this young guy and you could tell he was so uncomfortable talking to me, and he's like, you know, you can show nudity, but, like, nothing, Nothing spread open or anything like that. He was so scared. I was like, okay, it's fine. I won't spread them, you know. All right, so could you imagine that.

[Mimi]

Going home that night? Babe, I have to tell you what I did.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, I know. I talked to trailer trash Tammy and told her not to spread her.

[Claudia]

That was probably the highlight of his life. Dude, I love that. So.

[Mimi]

All right.

[Claudia]

We have since you. Okay. Who did you model trailer trash Tammy after?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah. Charlize Theron from the movie Monster. Yeah, without a doubt.

[Claudia]

So it's only fitting that we cover. What. How do I pronounce her last name? Eileen Warnos.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Is that how you say it? I watched Monster last night. Oh, it's an amazing.

[Chelsea Lynn]

It is an amazing movie. First off, did you kind of sense the Tammy mannerisms?

[Claudia]

Oh, when she flicked her hair at the end, when they were carrying her out to the cop car to bring her to jail, I was like, there's.

[Mimi]

There it is.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yep.

[Claudia]

That'll do it.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That'll do it. Yeah.

[Claudia]

No, for sure. I watched the movie last night and I. I have been researching her story the past few days, and I have to say, the empath in me has so much empathy for her because of all the trauma that this woman went through. It's like, I understand why she did what she did. Men fucking suck, dude.

[Mimi]

And have a good start. No, from day one.

[Claudia]

At all. So let's hop into it and we're going to talk about Eileen Warnos today and go down that rabbit hole because you know, what she did was wrong. Absolutely. You know, we can't justify that. But at the same time, it's like, damn. Once you hear her story, it's almost like you can like understand why she was the way she was.

[Chelsea Lynn]

A lot of people feel that way. Yeah, I think she's the most loved serial killer.

[Mimi]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Claudia]

It was amazing because her, her nicknames are the Damsel and America's first Female Serial Killer.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Wow.

[Claudia]

I mean, like, what a title.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Bitch.

[Claudia]

Go, go, go. Right, so Eileen was born, she was a Pisces. She was born in Rochester, Michigan on February 29th. And from late 1989 through the late 1990s, the bodies of seven middle aged white men were discovered in central Florida. The assailant had robbed all of the victims before shooting them to death and stood stealing their cars. I mean, listen, at least, at least, at least she didn't, you know, like decapitate him. And you know, that's what I'm thinking. Like she, at least it was a clean getaway. It sounded like she was robbing them, you know, not justifying it, but just saying, just saying, just saying. Why don't you kick it off, Mimi, with her childhood so we can get into it.

[Mimi]

I really dove deep into her childhood. This is like, I love to know like where people stem from. And her dad alone. Like the girl didn't even start with good genes. No, she had sick demented parents. Her parents were awful.

[Claudia]

Generational trauma.

[Mimi]

Yeah, Leo was the father and he served time in Kansas and Michigan mental hospitals and later committed suicide. He was in prison for child molestation and kidnapping of a seven year old.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Damn.

[Claudia]

So you could only imagine what he was doing to her and their siblings.

[Mimi]

Well, no, he, he wasn't around when she was pregnant. When she was born, he was already put away.

[Claudia]

Oh, he was already put away. Okay, gotcha.

[Mimi]

But his, the mother, the mother was 14 years old. So Diane was 14 years old when she got with Leo. Right. And Leo was 18. So you're an 18 year old sleeping with a 14 year old and knocks her up and has two kids with her. She did later on leave. She was, she had her first child at 15 and she abandoned both of her children, which were Keith and Eileen, and they were left with their grandparents, which those were just as up as the parents were. So I'm telling generational trauma at this point.

[Claudia]

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[Mimi]

Generational.

[Claudia]

She already got a. Dealt a shitty hand's marriage only lasted.

[Mimi]

Two years and when, when she was born, the dad was already put away.

[Claudia]

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[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, what am I reading?

[Mimi]

Right here.

[Chelsea Lynn]

The young. Yep, the young Warnos experienced Horrifying. Oh my God, you put big words in here.

[Claudia]

Horrifying Tumult.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Tumult. During her childhood, her father killed himself while prison. Did you already read that?

[Mimi]

Well, yeah, kind of.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, what am I.

[Mimi]

Okay.

[Claudia]

No, he didn't read that.

[Mimi]

Not that exactly. Okay. It was just talking about him killing himself in prison.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Okay. To go through her father killed himself while serving Prison time for child molestation while her mother abandoned Warnos and her older brother Keith, leaving them to be raised by their grandparents. Aen claimed she was sexually assaulted and beaten by her al. Alcoholic grandfather. Her grandfather would force her to strip out of her clothes before he'd beat her grandmother was a raging alcoholic.

[Mimi]

Yeah, so.

[Claudia]

Oh, so just imagine that, you know, her father was already up, but then his father was a piece of, too.

[Mimi]

You know, the mothers. The mothers, the mother.

[Claudia]

Oh, that was the mothers.

[Mimi]

Okay.

[Claudia]

I mean, just everybody's up. This is a whole circle of toxicity, dude.

[Mimi]

Right?

[Claudia]

Like, it's so sad, right? Haley, you want to read the next one?

[Chelsea Lynn]

You got it, honeys.

[Claudia]

You got this, baby.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I know. That's why I was like.

[Claudia]

It's almost like Aileen H. I mean, come on. Eileen. It could be Eileen. Eileen. Yeah.

[Haley]

She was trading sex.

[Claudia]

Put it in your mouth. Yep. We know you know how to put things in your mouth. Hey, not on here.

[Chelsea Lynn]

We know.

[Mimi]

Sorry. Grandma.

[Haley]

Aen was trading sexual favors for drugs, sigs, and food by the age of 11. She even went to the extent of engaging in sexual activities with her brother. Aileen was raped.

[Mimi]

Can I say that?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah, okay.

[Haley]

By a family friend and was pregnant at age 14 in 1970. Neighbors claimed the father was an older adult friend of his grandma, grandfather. And Keith, her own brother, was rumored to be the father. Also, she gave up her only child, a son, for adoption, and she gave birth to her son at a home for unwed mothers on March 23, 1970. 71.

[Claudia]

I'm sorry, but when I was 11 years old, I didn't even think about sex. I mean, I was humping Cabbage Patch Dolls, but those. I didn't know what it was.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That's my niece's ages.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I couldn't imagine that.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Makes me sick to even think about.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And the fact that she's, like, boning her brother, dude. Like, that's crazy sick all the way around.

[Mimi]

So she doesn't know who the father is of this child now, so she's given the child away, and she's trading sexual favors for drugs.

[Chelsea Lynn]

At 11?

[Claudia]

At 11 years old, because she has so much pain. She's just trying to numb. She doesn't know anything better. Nobody was there to teach her. Hey, this is the right thing to do. You shouldn't, you know?

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

You're 11. You should be going to school and enjoying your childhood.

[Mimi]

Being beat by this grandfather. God knows who knows what the grandmother did because she's a raging alcoholic. Yeah, that's awful. Like, this Kid. She literally had no place to go, nothing.

[Claudia]

She had no examples of what to be like and how to do better. Eileen Wuornos ended up dropping out of her school. Her grandmother died of liver failure and her grandfather eventually kicked her from the home. At 14, she started to live in the woods, fending for herself. Through prostitute. Through prostitution. Her brother, Keith Wuornos, passed away due to esophageal cancer, which Eileen got $10,000 from Keith's life insurance, but the money was gone in two months.

[Mimi]

God.

[Claudia]

$10,000 to a 14 year old.

[Mimi]

She was prostituting at 14.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, my gosh.

[Claudia]

I couldn't imagine.

[Mimi]

Where are you finding the people?

[Claudia]

Oh, easily.

[Mimi]

Yeah. That's just so sick, right?

[Claudia]

Grown men are disgusting. I think what needs to be talked about more is I have. I have dealt with sexual advances from men since I was five years old.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh my God.

[Claudia]

Literally, it's disgusting. I was playing in a boat in my front yard one time and a dude came up and started jacking off in front of me when I was five years old. Like, men are disgusting. So I mean, the fact that she's, you know, being a prostitute at 14, super easy. I could have fell into prostitution when I ran away from home at 14 in Vegas.

[Mimi]

You could have.

[Claudia]

There was grown men that had so much money. We used to walk the streets and like dudes in Porsches would pull up next to us and be like, hey, you guys want to get in? Like, it's crazy. How disgusting.

[Mimi]

14 years.

[Claudia]

14 years old. Yeah. No, so it's. I'm telling you, it's. It's disgusting. Men do not give a. Especially about age. They let. It's like they like them younger.

[Mimi]

Oh, that's so disgusting.

[Claudia]

Yeah, it's really weird the fact that her brother ended up with esophageal cancer, though. Like, that's trauma. That's like, that sounds like something happened to him, you know, and just he held all of the trauma in his throat, which in return made him sick. You know, that's crazy.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Back to her. She. She had a baby and gave it for adoption. Did. I mean, did she ever. Do we know anything about. Does that.

[Claudia]

Where's the kid? Yeah, yeah. No.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Does that person know they're tied to.

[Claudia]

Can you imagine that being your DNA and not knowing it?

[Mimi]

That's why adoptions.

[Claudia]

Let me Google that.

[Mimi]

You just don't know, you know, especially closed adoptions. Yeah, closed adoptions. You don't know your family history, you know, and nothing about those and things you could prevent.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And can you imagine Just watching this movie and not. And just being like, oh, that was a great movie. I feel bad for that lady and just not knowing that that's your mom or your grandma, whatever, you know, like, that's wild.

[Mimi]

Yeah. Because like, that person could probably have kids by now, you know, like, that could be someone's grandmother. Oh, my goodness. This.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

I'm reading a bunch of articles that say that her son. It was a closed adoption.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Okay.

[Claudia]

So it. I guess it's up to the adoption parents discretion to tell them. But it's like, can you imagine being those adoption parents? Like, how would you even begin to break? I feel like that would be so traumatic.

[Mimi]

I feel like they probably had no idea, though. So think about, like, back in the day, they really didn't do paperwork. They really didn't have, like, trails like they do nowadays where, like, everything is so documented. I'm sure she probably that kid out and never went back to that place, and they had no idea what her name was.

[Claudia]

Homeless, Right.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I agree with you. I think that absolutely maybe by like.

[Mimi]

You know, DNA or something, they could find a way. But I doubt that person has any idea.

[Claudia]

Says there are no details about the whereabouts of her child. We are not even sure if her son is dead or alive.

[Mimi]

Well, and also there's a possibility that child could have been incest.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Mimi]

Because if you think about if it was the brother.

[Claudia]

So it could have a lot of physical.

[Mimi]

Yeah, the child could survive.

[Haley]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

We're speculating at this point, but yeah. No, that's crazy. Yeah. Super, super sad, man. You want to keep reading memes.

[Mimi]

Eileen moved to Florida to work as a prostitute. So now she's gone from.

[Claudia]

What was it, Michigan, Michigan.

[Mimi]

Michigan to Florida. She was frequently in trouble with the law, being a prostitute and other crimes that she had committed in 91. Her record included, among other felonies and misdemeanors, arrest for illegal possession of firearms, her forgery, assault, robbery. So she's just going on, like, a crime spree at this point? Her. Well, I mean, she knows no better. So I could see her associates and law enforcement personnel often described her as erratic and easily angered. Her arrest record frequently noted. Attitude poor.

[Claudia]

Yeah, you think. You think.

[Mimi]

Oh, my goodness. She's already, like, racking up and I don't know, but, you know, 91 by 91. Okay. So I don't know how old she was up there, but she's just. I mean, this kid doesn't know any better. She's had no example.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Mimi]

Of anything.

[Chelsea Lynn]

If not only no example, but just a. Bad examples all around.

[Mimi]

That's the only way she knew to me.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Claudia]

My thing is, is, dude, this would never fly in this day and age because a 14 year old just running around acting like this. Literally some. The state would step in now, like, where the state. The system failed her.

[Mimi]

Truly.

[Claudia]

I. I read somewhere also that she was in like a. A girl's home, and she kept running away from the girl's home and they brought her back. And finally the last time that they brought her back, the person that ran the girl's home was like, hey, look, if you're good for 60 days, I'll let you out of here. And she was. She was good for 60 days and they let her out.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Wow.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Wow.

[Claudia]

So it's almost like they were like, they knew she was a problem and they were just like, all right, let's do what we got to do and get her out of here legally so we don't have to. We can wash our hands over.

[Mimi]

Deal with it. How sad. They just wanted rid of a problem, but instead of fixing it.

[Claudia]

Yeah, it's sad because that's how they are with a lot of children these days.

[Mimi]

Oh, they still, to this day. Absolutely. They like, once that kid hits 18, it's like, good luck.

[Haley]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

There's no system for which we're gonna.

[Claudia]

Do that with Bailey. I can't wait. I'm just kidding.

[Mimi]

Kidding. Yeah, but like, that's what a lot of the programs, like, what Jelly's doing is like, help having that one step that the, the system fails to have.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

It's. It's either you're in complete trouble or you're doing good. There's no one in that middle part.

[Claudia]

Yeah. No. It's so sad for what the youth is having to go through. Go ahead, Chelsea.

[Chelsea Lynn]

In May 1974, she was jailed in Jefferson county for disorderly conduct, drunk driving, and firing a weapon from a vehicle. Two years later in Michigan, she was arrested for assault and disturbing the peace after attacking a bartender.

[Claudia]

So before she even left for Florida, I think she was, you know. Nope, this is right. Right before she. She left for Florida, she was already doing crazy, you know?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Like she. Yeah, that's insane.

[Chelsea Lynn]

So she's probably still. Still a teen during all this. Still a young teen.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Yeah, she's definitely still a young team. This was in 74.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I was about to say.

[Mimi]

Oh, seven. I'm sorry.

[Claudia]

Yeah. This was in 74.

[Mimi]

She was born in. Not even 20.

[Chelsea Lynn]

56.

[Haley]

She was born in 56. I can't do math.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I'm the worst person to ever do that.

[Mimi]

So.

[Claudia]

74 and 56. She would be almost 20 years old. Okay, so she's like, you know, 17. Yeah. Still a teen, but I mean, already drunk driving and firing a weapon from a vehicle. I mean, she was gang banging before. Gang banging was cool.

[Chelsea Lynn]

She started it.

[Claudia]

Yeah, she started this gangsta.

[Mimi]

She started it.

[Claudia]

Hitchhiking across America. Sorry, Haley, I skipped you, but we'll, we'll go right back to you. Hitchhiking across America. Wuornos arrived in Florida and was presented with a potentially life changing piece of luck. She got a sugar daddy. She met a wealthy Yacht Club President, 69 year old Lewis Fell, who fell in love with her and they were married in 1976. So she was still a baby too. He's 70 years old marrying like an 18, 19 year old. Do you see what I'm talking about? These disgusting men.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And I didn't know she married a rich dude.

[Claudia]

Dude come from. She had an. Listen, man. They fall out of the sky, all right? I've had a few.

[Mimi]

No, you know what? You know what it is?

[Chelsea Lynn]

I'm gonna be looking up all the time now. Literally.

[Claudia]

I'm gonna keep it real with you. Sugar daddies love a damsel in distress. They want to fix you. They want to give you a life that you've never had. I've had so many sugar daddies that I've treated so bad because, you know, I was young and didn't appreciate the money that they were giving me. And it's. It's kind of sick on their end too, because it's like they're. It's a need that they're fulfilling too. So it's not just because they think you're attractive because you're a young, hot thing. They're also. It's a trauma. You almost have like a trauma bond with sugar daddies. Yeah, it's really weird. They were married in 1976. Warno soon reverted to back to her type, however, and began fighting in bars and was sent to jail for assault as a result. Fell was horrified. A brawling bride had no place in his high society lifestyle, and he had the marriage annulled.

[Mimi]

Wow.

[Claudia]

She that up.

[Mimi]

He wasn't around what she looked like at this point, you know.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Because they depicted her to be such like again, a monster right in the show. But was she adorable? She rough.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I've seen younger pictures and she. She was cute.

[Claudia]

Let me see. Yeah, I'm gonna go.

[Chelsea Lynn]

She was.

[Mimi]

Didn't they Depict her in the beginning, though, as, like in the movie, like, kind of beautiful. And then, like, over time, she took on this more monster esque vibe. Yeah. You know, very Tammy.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Very Tammy. The slick back hair.

[Mimi]

God, the hair just gets me every time. So the first time I ever saw you go Tammy was at that podcast and we were like, do you need to go in the other room to get, like, ready or anything? She goes, nope, nope. She whips off the jacket and just takes her hands and runs them through her hair real fast and she's like, done, Done.

[Chelsea Lynn]

People are always like, what. What does it take to get ready for Tammy? Or how long did it take you? I was like, oh, I take my bun out and squinch my face because I always look like something stinks. And that's it. That's Tammy.

[Claudia]

That's the character.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yep.

[Claudia]

I can't find any young pictures of her that I think are really her, so I don't want to falsely put one up, but, yeah, I don't see any young pictures of her, but I'm sure she was cute. You know, like, I'm sure she. And she probably had the. The gift of gab. You know, when you go through trauma like that in a family, you learn how to be charismatic when you have to be.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

So she probably had to learn that.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Very cute girl.

[Claudia]

You know, her innocence was just taken. So young.

[Mimi]

So young.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Very sad.

[Claudia]

Dude, you want to read the next one?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Haley, I feel like we're playing popcorn.

[Mimi]

Popcorn at the top for you.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, you all.

[Haley]

Who fell?

[Claudia]

That's her. The sugar daddy.

[Haley]

He filed a restraining order against his young bride, claiming that she beat him with his cane. An accusation she levied at him, too. After only nine weeks together, he had the marriage annulled. She attempted suicide for the first time in 1978, shooting herself in the stomach.

[Mimi]

Oh, wait, I didn't know that. Yeah.

[Claudia]

Yep.

[Mimi]

Good news. That'll do.

[Claudia]

Well, her dad was diagnosed with schizophrenia, so she's obviously mentally ill. She's extremely violent. So, you know, maybe she was like. Maybe she knew she was about to lose her cash cow and was like, maybe if I just off myself, you know, like. Right, he'll stay. Or maybe I just won't be here anymore. You know? Nobody knows how she was feeling in that moment.

[Mimi]

It doesn't surprise me, though. She beat him with a cane.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah. She's like something she'd do.

[Claudia]

Yeah, she said that he.

[Mimi]

Go ahead.

[Claudia]

What'd you say?

[Haley]

I would love to watch that.

[Claudia]

Yeah, she said that he beat her Too though, so. Oh, there's a history of violence throughout. Whatever she's gone through, you know, whether it's true or not, we'll never know. But you know, there's something that made her the way she is.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mimi]

Yeah. She's definitely chemically unbalanced.

[Chelsea Lynn]

You want me read next?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

In 1986, Wuornos met Tyria. Tyra. I'm say Tyra. Tyra Moore, at a bar in Daytona Beach, Florida. And they began and Roman an instant romantic relationship that ended just before Warnos's final arrest in 1991. Warnos's relationship with Moore was her second relationship with a woman as a prostitute. Her clients were mainly middle aged, low to middle class white men.

[Claudia]

This is like right when she started her spree too of like killing people, which I have all of her victims here too. So it's like when she met this girl, she fell in love. And according to the movie last night, because I re watched it too. If you guys haven't seen Monster with Charlize Theron and it is such a good movie and it actually paints her in. You feel a little bit more empathy towards her when you watch what she had. Yeah. What she had to go through because.

[Mimi]

It shows the hurt and the pain. You can read a story all day long, but I think movies do such a good job in like depicting the actual pain these people are going through and what they had to deal with.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And I, we had a show in Daytona and we had an extra day so I went to some of the locations. I went to the location where she was arrested. And then within walking distance was the hotel that her and Tyra lived in for a part of the time. And it was weird, dude. It was. So they had the, they had. You can stay in the room. They lived.

[Claudia]

Oh my God.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And it's just a little, you know, Ricky Dinky. Yeah. It's not completely trash. They've redone it. But I, I think back then it was like, you know, but it was wild to be there and to think. I don't know if we're jump jumping the gun here, but the, the girlfriend, it's wild to think that she's just out there right now.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Chilling. And she will get to that part. But.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Okay.

[Claudia]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Okay. I thought I was jumping the gun, but that's. I think about that all the time.

[Claudia]

Yeah. We need to Google where she's at too, once we get to that part. But yeah, when I saw that part of the movie last night, I was like, this has never been in love and her her entire life. Eileen has never felt love. You know, she's been searching for it her whole life. She finally finds it and this woman does the ultimate betrayal to her. Like this woman has just been betrayed her entire life. No wonder she hates humans.

[Mimi]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

So she. So what Chelsea was just saying. So they met. So this is right before the killing spree and she had prostituted. I'm guessing if it. If this says that she this is the second woman she was ever with was the first one part of her prostitution.

[Claudia]

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[Chelsea Lynn]

Lord.

[Claudia]

I know, I know.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Spin after spinning.

[Mimi]

Yeah, they just. How awful.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I wouldn't want to eat grandma puss. Dude, come on.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I never thought I'd hear the word grandma puss. I don't like that word either. Grandma puss.

[Claudia]

It's like a. Just a big old pack of chewed.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Hubba Bubba.

[Haley]

With hairs in it.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Just the old.

[Claudia]

The old wiry gray.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, my God.

[Claudia]

The old wiry gray hairs just like Barb Wire in your gums and be terrible lint. Oh, God. We're going to hell.

[Mimi]

Oh, okay. Where were we?

[Claudia]

Together.

[Mimi]

Oh, together.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Grandma P. Together.

[Mimi]

Warnos and Tyrannosaurus. More sold and stolen items from Florida pawn shops. During the murder investigation, the police discovered items belonging to Richard Mallory at a local pawn shop with a receipt showing Warrenos's thumbprint. How stupid of a criminal are you to give your thumbprint?

[Claudia]

So we're gonna go through these victims. I'm gonna put them back up there a little bit because I have each victim that she has had and I.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Want to say she used a different name. She did, yes.

[Claudia]

She had a few aliases. Yes.

[Chelsea Lynn]

For the. The pawn shop stuff, but used her thumbprint. Yeah.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Like, come on, sis, you. You should have been a little bit smarter than that. But here's. Did it update with the victims. I just brought it up right now. So. Yeah. Her victims started with Richard. And I honestly feel like she did this for her. I feel like she loved her so much and old girl needed money, you know, and like they needed money to like live because I guess she came from like a really crazy household herself too. And Tyra did. And you know, she was like, well, how are we gonna make money? And you know, Eileen wanting to protect her in a way and like give her what she wanted. She started going out and robbing these dudes. And in the movie you show her. I don't know if Richard was the first one that she killed, but it shows her being raped and like this guy was gonna kill her pretty much and like shoving things in her vagina and had her hands tied and she. She killed him in self defense is what it said in the movie. Now if that's true, you know, I've.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Read that they have no evidence of that. Right. That. That just made the movie better.

[Mimi]

Right.

[Chelsea Lynn]

But it absolutely could have been true.

[Mimi]

Right.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I'm sure. You know she was not treated well.

[Claudia]

Right? For sure. Especially being a car hooker. They go through some crazy dude. I know girls who have done car dates and it's scary. They've all. Almost all of them have been killed.

[Mimi]

Tried to story attempted from one of our guests. Trashly.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

How when she got in there, she realized the door handle was missing.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh my God.

[Mimi]

Went past the exit and just kept driving down to old storage units.

[Claudia]

Yep.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, my Lord. What? I mean, what happened? She just got.

[Mimi]

She was okay. He brought her back. But it was. It was very touching. Go there for a little while, she said. And it got very scary. So that was probably the worst one that she'd ever done before.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Car dates are scary because you don't get to, you know, in the. In the industry, you can, you know, profile people and, you know, run their do. Like, I. If I were to go on a date, I wouldn't. I wouldn't go unless this person had a Facebook where I saw all of his family, sent me a copy of his driver's license. Like, I used to really scan people. Like, they had to have a business profile. Like, all that stuff. They had to be, well, you know, well known online or. You're not getting me in your presence.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I bet a lot of guys were like, did you get a lot of, like, no's?

[Claudia]

Yeah, and I would never see them.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Wow.

[Claudia]

You know, because, you know, one, you don't know if it's a cop, and two, you don't know if it's fucking Jeffrey Dahmer right now.

[Mimi]

So it's like, yeah, you have no idea. Let's dive into her victims. Well, maybe her girlfriend real fast before we get to the victims. I got this little part right here. Go ahead. So Tyra, it was. So they met in 1986. So how old is she now? Like, she's like, you know, in her later twenties.

[Chelsea Lynn]

My word.

[Claudia]

None of us can add. We don't know.

[Mimi]

But they met at the Zodiac Bar. Now, weeks earlier, Moore had left her conservative hometown. So she come from a little town in Ohio to fully embrace being a lesbian. Unknowingly, she was falling for a serial killer. So as a relationship progressed, they. She became her girlfriend and admitted that she had been in and out of jail for theft and armed robbery. So she's running her own game on side of her. So these are two people who are just right, coming together.

[Claudia]

But I really feel like Eileen loved her and wanted to help her.

[Mimi]

So she also came from an abused childhood. Right. So she had been abused and abandoned as a child and also used as prostitution to make money as a child. So both of them come from similar homes, and I think that's what you're talking about. The trauma bond of the two is that they were able to relate and they were able to love each other over the relationship of knowing they had been through a lot of the same woes.

[Claudia]

Tyra never killed anybody, though. That we know of.

[Mimi]

So Moore had tried to discourage the behaviors of Warnos, but the relationship took a turn in 1986 when Warnos had finally confessed to her in 1986. So they had now been together, you know, about a year or. No. Sorry, in 1989. So 1986 is when they met. So it took two years for her to admit that she had killed someone to her.

[Claudia]

Right.

[Mimi]

So and when the start with that first one. When was he murdered?

[Claudia]

So Richard Mallory, the first victim was the shop. Was a shop owner in 1989. The 51 year old white man who picked up a prostitute along Interstate 75 in Florida to engage in sex for pay. A Volusia county deputy discovered his body several miles away from his abandoned car. Mallory had been shot multiple times in the chest.

[Mimi]

So she dumped his body and then took his car.

[Claudia]

Yep. That's what she would bring the cars back to Tyra.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Be like, here we have a ride for the night. And they would like joy right in the cars. That's what it showed in the movie. So, you know, I don't know how true to life that was. But she would also bring the money back to Tyra. So even though Tyra wasn't participating in the murders, I still feel like she should have got some time.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I agree.

[Claudia]

You're spending the money and you know, that's. What is it? Guilty by association.

[Mimi]

Yeah. Because the conspiracy in 89.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You know that she's out there killing.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yep.

[Claudia]

For sure.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I agree.

[Claudia]

Little skanky hoe.

[Mimi]

Yeah. So she was telling her, Warn us, told her that the victim that she had killed the first time was abusive and that was her like self defense out of it. That's how she justified this happening and she did believe her. But then Warnos began to kill more.

[Claudia]

Well, she's like a pit bull. She got a taste for blood. She's like, if I don't have to sleep with you, I don't want to.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Claudia]

But you know what, here's the thing too is when you've been through a life of abuse like that, you get to a point where you're like, if you touch me again, I'm going to fudgeing kill you.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Haley]

Yes.

[Claudia]

Because that's how I got. Whenever I was in my abusive relationship, I got to the point where I would threaten him and say if I would tell him that I had a gun hiding in the closet and I would be like, if you put your hands on me again, I'm gonna blow your head off. You just get to a point where you don't want to be abused anymore and you don't want to be used.

[Mimi]

You've also been touched too many times.

[Claudia]

Right.

[Mimi]

You know, like you've literally been at the will of all these people who have just openly touched You.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

For your entire life.

[Claudia]

Eileen. You're talking about Eileen or me? Because, I mean, I'm like, maybe.

[Mimi]

Which one of us.

[Claudia]

I'm like, which one are we talking about here?

[Mimi]

But. Yes, but, you know, I mean, both of you guys, you know.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You just get to that point.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

No, and I definitely think after her first murder, she. That's, that's. I bet she was like, you know, one little mishap. One little.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

If she felt one, you know, I bet it was.

[Claudia]

What do they call it, hair trigger or whatever.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I bet just opened a floodgate to where if she was just miss, you know.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Mistreated. Boom.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I mean, just all that trauma. She probably has ptsd. Like she's dealing with a whole bunch of that nobody's helping her with, you know? David Spears. The nude body of David Spears, a 43 year old construction worker was found June 1, 1990 in Citrus County. He had been shot six times in the torso. That's overkill.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

He did something to her.

[Mimi]

Yeah, she. That was exploded. Pissed.

[Claudia]

Yeah, sure. Yeah.

[Mimi]

I mean, I, I get the kill to kill, but you're mad at that point. You're letting something out. And that's why I do believe. I believe a lot of these men mistreated her.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Big time. Yeah.

[Mimi]

And just felt like they had a right to her body.

[Claudia]

And granted, she put herself in these positions. We're not making an excuse for this lady going on a killing spree, but we are having empathy for the woman that she is. You know, like the woman, the little girl that was hurt inside of her, you know, for all the she's been through. You want to go on with the next victims? Yeah.

[Mimi]

So next one is Charles. Oh, my God. How do you say that? Last name.

[Claudia]

Car Scadden.

[Mimi]

Car Scotten. A few days after Spears's body was discussed.

[Claudia]

You look like a Charles Carden with that mustache.

[Mimi]

A few days after Spears's body was discovered, the body of Charles Carden, 40, was discovered in Pasco County. The part time rodeo worker had been shot nine times in the chest and stomach.

[Claudia]

Damn. She's up and up in the ante.

[Mimi]

Yeah, she's moving around at this point, you know. So this is Citrus county and now she's over into Pasco County.

[Claudia]

Yep.

[Mimi]

So she's moving around a bit.

[Claudia]

So it's like they would kill somebody and then move on to the next city, but all in the same state.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Okay. Move around.

[Mimi]

Yeah, yeah. Just kind of pushing their way around.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And I. And I think they didn't want. I mean, the car was a big thing.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

They didn't want the car to be recognized in the area.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

So they're just moving to the next county. So.

[Claudia]

So they would kill them, take the car, move to the next county, kill another person, take that car, move to the next county. How did they think they were going to get far with this?

[Chelsea Lynn]

I don't know. I have no idea.

[Claudia]

This was not a well thought out plan.

[Mimi]

Yeah. I mean, God, they made it through so many of them before getting caught.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Haley]

Do they not, like, have like missing persons? Do they not start investigations on these guys and just not find anything?

[Claudia]

I think you know how investigations are. They want rock hard proof before they make an arrest. So I think she had to leave a trail of. And I think it was also in a short amount of time. It's not like she waited years because if you look, David Spears and the next guy were all still killed in 1990.

[Mimi]

So.

[Claudia]

Yeah, all these guys were killed in 1990. So it's. It's almost like she went on like a week.

[Mimi]

So it was like two years. Because 1989 was her first kill. Yeah. And then now she's into 1990. So it's about.

[Haley]

Wasn't like a Dahmer situation where his was over?

[Mimi]

No. Right. And Dahmer was honestly trying to hide it. I don't feel like she was trying to hide.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Claudia]

Maybe not too well.

[Mimi]

Dumping bodies and taking cars. Dahmer's over here, like digging graves for these people and eating them.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And it's them.

[Chelsea Lynn]

It's the car for me. If I'm killing someone, I'm not driving their car around.

[Claudia]

No. I'd be petrified.

[Mimi]

Do you ever know what kind of drugs they were on? Because I feel like that does all also play a role in, like, what mental state you're in? I mean, tweakers don't think things through very well. Correct. You know, whack.

[Claudia]

You never know, man.

[Mimi]

But I mean, it could have been because. Yeah, like, tweakers just like they don't logically think they, you know, they're just going to take this car.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Mimi]

But not get through the whole scenario.

[Claudia]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think they ever talk about their drug abuse. That's crazy. They should.

[Mimi]

And they were caught for it. But. Yeah. What kind of drugs? I mean, you look at pictures of her girlfriend and she looks like a crackhead.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I haven't seen real. I saw Christina Richie.

[Mimi]

I saw real pictures.

[Claudia]

Really? So she might have been a crackhead Absolutely.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Next victim. Troy Burris. Marion county law enforcement found the body of Troy Barris, a 50 year old salesman, on August 4, 1990, less than a week after he was reported missing.

[Mimi]

There we go.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Though the body was fairly decomposed, the medical examiner was able to determine that the cause of death was two gunshots to the torso.

[Claudia]

So he must have not been mean.

[Mimi]

To her, I believe. Isn't this the one that they like he. In the movie they depicted him as like kind of a sweet little guy.

[Claudia]

Who was nervous that dude was a cop that she shot. I think that's what you're thinking about because there was a sweet guy who like was. Gave her no issues or anything. And he was like an older dude.

[Mimi]

And I thought that was the salesman.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, in the movie. They, he. And, and they don't even know if that's true. I think that they said that's for the movie as well. But he picked her up to, to help her. He wasn't, you know, picking her up for sex.

[Claudia]

Oh, actually that's the next victim. I just.

[Chelsea Lynn]

It is.

[Claudia]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Go ahead and read it, honeys.

[Mimi]

Yeah, I feel like violent ones like she was doing, just because that's what she knew to do at this point. I don't believe those were like the, the abusive ones.

[Claudia]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Y' all ready?

[Claudia]

We're ready.

[Haley]

Charles Dick Humphries.

[Claudia]

Dick Humph.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Dick Hump. What a cool name.

[Haley]

A retired Air Force major police chief in Florida, child abuse investigator Dick Humphries was found dead in Marion county on September 12, 1990. The body was fully clothed and had. Had suffered multiple gunshots to the head and torso. His car was later found in Suwannee County.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Okay.

[Claudia]

How crazy is that? That a child abuse investigator is picking up prostitutes?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, that's why.

[Mimi]

But do you feel like this is the one that was meant to. Just trying to help. Is that what we just talked about?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Maybe it was just for help purposes.

[Claudia]

But why wouldn't he have backup? Why wouldn't he? You know, like there's just so many questions like why are you doing that alone?

[Mimi]

Right.

[Haley]

I always, I always think it's the ones that work closest to it that do it.

[Claudia]

Yeah, almost.

[Haley]

You know, they have like first hand access.

[Chelsea Lynn]

In the know.

[Mimi]

Yeah, yeah, in the know. Weird. So he was fully clothed though, because normally she stripped him naked. Right. And threw their bodies out.

[Claudia]

Well, that or she. I don't think she stripped him naked. I think she would be like, okay, let's have sex. And they would get naked While they were naked, she would shoot him because that would be her time to get away. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Old dick Peter Simes. 65 year old Peter Symes left central Florida and headed for New Jersey in June of 1990. His car was found in Orange Springs on July 4, 1990. Though seems body has never been found. Witnesses described two women near the car in Orange Springs.

[Mimi]

His body was never found.

[Claudia]

But even more so, two women near. Two women. Women near the car. So I think she had a lot more to do because even in the phone call, when she has that last phone call with Tyra, she's even like, like, what are you doing? You know, like she knew what she was doing and then she was like, you know what? Okay, I did it. I did it all, you know, and like she takes the blame for it, but it's like she kept it g. And didn't, you know, flip on her. Like she could have.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And dude, that's how you know that. That she really loved her because she did take the blame for everything.

[Claudia]

Everything.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Wow. She took it to blame for everything.

[Claudia]

I bet you that that girl Tyra probably died of an overdose. You can't live with that sort of on your mind.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Is she still alive?

[Mimi]

Yeah, I'll read about it here in a sec.

[Claudia]

Damn. Yeah, we'll get to that for sure.

[Mimi]

Dude, how wild. So you see two women with it. Oh, I definitely. I feel like she helped her. Yeah. In a lot of. I think like with the dumping of the bodies, it would be like. I bet you she like was one of those like hide around the corner.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Kind of moments.

[Claudia]

Or in the back seat or able.

[Haley]

To lift those like.

[Mimi]

Yeah. Because these are like grown ass men.

[Claudia]

Yeah. You know, she couldn't do it by herself.

[Mimi]

No.

[Claudia]

She was a tall, you know, but I mean, I'm pretty strong myself and I couldn't lift a grown man off the ground.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I want to say a few years ago the. The Tyra was on Facebook.

[Claudia]

Oh, really?

[Chelsea Lynn]

I had looked her up. All her stuff was private. But she did have some pictures on there and stuff. But she. I think I've even messaged her. That's how weird I am.

[Claudia]

Dude, I love it.

[Chelsea Lynn]

She never replied.

[Mimi]

Like she's on the podcast.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh my gosh. She. That would be awesome. She. She's been real, real private. Like she does not.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Could you imagine. Oh, could you imagine the guilt?

[Mimi]

You feel the guilt.

[Claudia]

But the. Also the reporters that are like hounding her. Like, especially when that movie dropped. She probably just wants to have like a Normal life. And, like, you know, it's like Casey Anthony. You rarely ever see her. She pops out every now and then, but it's like, once you get accused of something like that, your entire being is tarnished. You can't even live. You have people who want to kill you.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Claudia]

You have people who hate you. Like, there's just so much. I'm gonna go on Facebook and look for her.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Look, she was.

[Mimi]

She's gonna be like, why is there six friend requests right now?

[Claudia]

Yeah. They all have millions of followers. Why are they requesting me?

[Mimi]

So, Walter Antonio. The partially disrobed body of Walter Antonio, 62, was found Nov. 19, 1990, in a remote part of Dixie County. He had been shot four times in the back and in the head. Antonio's car was found five days later in Brevard County. So she's shooting him in the head in the back. Like, this is, like, absolute. She's letting every piece of anger out on these men.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Definitely overkill.

[Mimi]

Yeah. The overkill is real with these victims, except for those two like, that weren't shot nearly as much. I feel like the overkill is crazy with some of these dudes.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right? Agree.

[Claudia]

Yeah. So it says that the one that got her caught was her first victim, Richard Mallory. Because it says. Police then traced stolen items from Mallory to Warnos. A camera from Mallory's automobile was found inside a rented warehouse unit, which was opened with a key taken from Wernos. Wuornos had rented the unit under an alias. And police traced other items from Mallory's car to people or pawn shops Warnos had contacted.

[Mimi]

So all the way back to. And it wasn't a long time. So, like, that short amount of time.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Within that year, she was. She was clean. There was like. No, they did the. They. Investigators didn't find, like, DNA. Like, there was nothing found. Like, they got her on those pawn shop.

[Mimi]

It has. Because I don't think we had DNA then. Right. It came out in the 80s, but it wasn't widely used.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Mimi]

You know, like, that was still so new, and it wasn't even, like, that well of DNA.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And I don't even think there was stuff, too. Even if they did have DNA testing. Like, she was very, like. Like she left nothing behind. There was, you know.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That's how she was caught was the.

[Haley]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Damn. Pawn shops.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Pawn shops.

[Mimi]

It says by 1990, Tyra Moore had become suspicious if not fully aware of Warrenos's activities. Moore moved in with her family in Pennsylvania. When Warnos was arrested on an outstanding warrant At a biker bar in Florida. Police tracked down more down and used her to elect a elicit. Used her to elicit a confession from Warnos.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Can you imagine telling your family like, hey, I'm moving back. And they're like, oh, why?

[Mimi]

What's going on?

[Chelsea Lynn]

You're like, well, girl, I've been saying, got caught up for murder.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Oh my God.

[Mimi]

No, this doesn't say murder yet. She moved to Pennsylvania when she was arrested for a outstanding warrant.

[Claudia]

But first. So it says what right here? What they, what they're saying is Moore moved in with her family in Pennsylvania and then Warnos got arrested and then police tracked Moore down at her parents Pennsylvania house and used her to get a confession from.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That's what it was.

[Claudia]

So Warno snitched on her for a.

[Mimi]

Warrant and then like linked her to.

[Claudia]

These murders after old girl snitched on her.

[Chelsea Lynn]

So when she was arrested at the bar, which I've been to, and it was what. It was gnarly.

[Claudia]

Yeah. What was it like? Like hella dirty bikers.

[Chelsea Lynn]

It was very small, old. There was no one inside of it. It was open, clutter, very tiny in there. And he's like, oh, everyone's out back if you want to drink. I mean, it was the trashiest place ever been to in my life. And I've been to some trashy places. And we went in the back and there was like a little tiki hut and like some old people sitting around drinking and it just trash everywhere. It was wild.

[Claudia]

It's like one of those bars that you literally probably just grow up with. And that's like the old water and hole.

[Chelsea Lynn]

They had a huge shrine of her in there. Like a big photograph and like candles and stuff.

[Claudia]

Oh my goodness.

[Chelsea Lynn]

But when she got arrested. Yeah, she wasn't arrested for the murder. She was arrested for. For the, the warrant. But the. There's a really interesting YouTube. It's there on YouTube. I forgot where I watched it. Where the guy, the guys who arrested her, he. They put her in the cop car and he was miked up and they were videoing it from across the street. And that footage I think is on YouTube. And it's so interesting cuz when she gets in the car, she doesn't say. I mean, she's. She doesn't say anything about nothing. She. She's almost like, why are you arresting me? He's like, come on. Like, you know, while we're, you know. And she just doesn't break. She doesn't. Nothing.

[Claudia]

Wow. And that's what they showed on the phone call from whenever they got. Finally got. What's her name? Tyra.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Ty.

[Claudia]

When Tyra finally got on the phone with Eileen, Eileen was like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about, Tyra? You know, because she's trying to, like, entrap her.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yep.

[Claudia]

And, you know, Tyra's like, you know what you did? You did this and you did that, and. And finally Eileen was like, you know, she just kind of like holds her face to the phone and just starts bawling, and she's like, tyra, I'm never gonna see you again. You know, and she just kind of did the confession on the phone for.

[Chelsea Lynn]

For her. She knew what she was doing. Yeah, she. And you know that Aileen knew that there was, you know, they were miked up. She knew you can. And you knew. She knew what was going on.

[Claudia]

It was that I felt really bad for her in that moment because I was just like, damn, you did this all for this? And this just snitched on you just so she could stay out of jail. And that's what she said. She said. She said, eileen, I'm gonna go to jail. Like. Like, you didn't participate or spend the money that she stole. And, like, you know, I just feel like they let her off way too easy.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Big time.

[Mimi]

Yeah, most definitely. Definitely. But was that to get the confession of Warnos? Like, is that a plea deal?

[Claudia]

So I bet you as immunity. It was. Immunity if you can get this plea deal.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

You know, which immunity is a.

[Mimi]

Because I feel like the justice system in the 90s, you know.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

It was like, we'll let any walk if you get us the other, you know.

[Claudia]

Well, and she was the first female serial killer, so they probably didn't know how to handle this, you know, because there's not a lot of female serial killer killers.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Claudia]

You know, so they were probably like, this is new, you know, and the.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Bragging rights to get her.

[Mimi]

Right.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah. You know, Was that the last victim? So how many victims were there?

[Claudia]

Seven. Right? Seven total.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Do you think there was more and.

[Claudia]

They just didn't know?

[Mimi]

Absolutely, I'm sure.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

I truly believe that's a year span.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I do, too.

[Mimi]

That is a year of killing spree. You most definitely did more than seven within that year now. And especially since both of them are most likely involved. You. That's the only way you survived for that year.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

You can't survive off the little bit that you're getting from each person.

[Claudia]

No.

[Mimi]

Right.

[Claudia]

Well, they were doing prostitution, too, so they were you know, I'm sure there was a few dicks they had to suck along the way.

[Mimi]

What adventure.

[Claudia]

Sounds like a good old time to me. Haley, you want to read the. Chelsea, you want to read the next one?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, let's do it by 1990. Oh, sorry, honeys. Warnos sold the rights to her story almost immediately after her arrest, which captivated the media. Many documentaries were made of her life in the popular film Monster in 2003.

[Claudia]

So she's not that dumb. Either she had somebody really good in her ear, or she's not that dumb because this is before she was convicted.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Wow.

[Claudia]

Right after she got arrested, she's like, I'm selling the rights to my story.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right? Like, who thinks of that?

[Claudia]

Right? Especially and from her background.

[Mimi]

Someone had to have come to her, though, is what I'm saying. I don't feel like she was like, I must sell my rights. I feel like somebody was like, some Hollywood scumbag heard of the first, like, murderer. That's a female serial killer. That's a female. And probably beeline towards her.

[Claudia]

Hold on one second.

[Mimi]

Hey, baby.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Hey, sexy.

[Claudia]

What are you doing?

[Chelsea Lynn]

I am considering driving to Nashville after my show included spending tonight and tomorrow night, then flying to New York Monday.

[Claudia]

Okay. I'm in the middle of a podcast right now, but I was.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Sorry.

[Mimi]

Say hi.

[Claudia]

Say hi to Chelsea.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Hey, Jelly. Hey, Chelsea. And I just wanted to make sure you're okay with the maid not waking me up Monday.

[Claudia]

It's Tuesday, so would you believe in Tuesday?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Nope. I'll be leaving Monday.

[Claudia]

Okay, good.

[Mimi]

Perfect.

[Claudia]

Come on home. I'm just kidding. Come home anytime you want, baby. Bye.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Little team meeting.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Team meeting. Yeah. So the fact that she just sold her rights immediately after being arrested, like, that was a power move. I wonder how much money she died with.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I don't know.

[Claudia]

And who she left it to. Right, because she didn't get. She didn't get lethal injection until. Okay, so she got lethal injection in 2002, and then the movie Monster came out in 2003.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh.

[Claudia]

So I wonder how much money that made her, though.

[Chelsea Lynn]

There was a family, a lady who and I think she had met after she got convicted or not convicted, but arrested and became very close to them. I can't remember what the lady's name was, where it was, but there's a documentary that they were, like, kept in tight relationship, so.

[Mimi]

Wow.

[Claudia]

I hope that lady didn't have that relationship with her just to use her or bleed or dry, you know? I mean, but at least she had somebody that she could feel like she could be.

[Mimi]

Yeah, right. To be close with.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

That's crazy.

[Claudia]

By 1992, she received six death sentences and was executed via lethal injection in 2002. Her final words were, I'd like to say I'm sailing with the rock and I'll be back. Like independence and day with Jesus. June 6th, like the movie. Big mothership and all. I'll be back.

[Mimi]

Damn, what a quote.

[Claudia]

Yeah, well, she also said I robbed them and I killed them as cold as ice and I would do it again and I know I would kill another person because I've hated humans for a long time. So she didn't really have much remorse. And I don't know if it's not her having remorse. I think that's a. A wall that she had to put up use that she had to go through because they did show that she. She had moments of clarity and compassion and stuff like that in the movie. But you know, again, we don't know.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Claudia]

Eileen in person. So.

[Mimi]

So let's talk about Tyra.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

What's she up to?

[Mimi]

Yeah, I did. So it says that. Hold on. Where's that article I had pulled up?

[Chelsea Lynn]

I wonder if Tyra watches our tiktoks.

[Claudia]

I was just thinking maybe.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, isn't that weird to think about?

[Claudia]

That'd be crazy. You probably give her PTSD because you have the head movement. Sounds so good. Like she's probably like holy.

[Chelsea Lynn]

She reminds me of someone.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Haley]

She's under like a different Tick Tock name though, and has been commenting user.

[Mimi]

894-26387 so more is still alive but lives away from the spotlight. But it says that she moved back to her family shortly after the trials had ended and has done her best to stay out of the spotlight ever since.

[Claudia]

So no pictures, no nothing. We don't know what she looks like. I can't believe she's still alive. I thought she would have overdosed or something.

[Mimi]

I mean she had to like. Let's see, let's see. Current picture. Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Because I want to say, I mean I'm positive she was on Facebook, but this was a long time ago.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

And I think a bunch of. A bunch of like blogs and crime stuff had posted. Like the updated pictures. Yeah, she had posted. It wasn't a lot but. And I may be tripping. I may be thinking about something else, but I'm almost positive. Yeah, look, there's some like non standard.

[Mimi]

Oh God. Someone has a shrine to her in their bar.

[Claudia]

That's in.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Or that's in the bar that she was arrested in, that I saw.

[Mimi]

That is it. Let me see. Wow. There's like a painted shrine.

[Claudia]

Wow.

[Mimi]

With all the information around it.

[Claudia]

And that's her real picture.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, it's like. Yeah, it's a cartoon picture.

[Mimi]

Goodness.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That bar is weird.

[Claudia]

Yeah, it's. I'm very sure. Yeah. I. I wouldn't take her to be hanging out and standing. Stand up citizen.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Right.

[Claudia]

Locations.

[Chelsea Lynn]

No, that's the lady from Designing Women.

[Haley]

Okay.

[Claudia]

Delta Burke.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That'S funny. But the bar is so odd. They sell, like, Aileen Warno's hot sauce. I mean, they're really. They're really.

[Claudia]

They're really milking it.

[Chelsea Lynn]

They're milking it.

[Claudia]

They're milking it. Yeah. They're getting their every last drip.

[Chelsea Lynn]

They're milking it. They sold T shirts.

[Claudia]

She's the best thing that ever happened to that bar.

[Mimi]

Right.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Literally. Right?

[Claudia]

Terrible.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, yeah.

[Mimi]

Is this actually her?

[Chelsea Lynn]

That's her. That's her on the stand. Yeah, that is her.

[Claudia]

Wow. She looks a little different.

[Haley]

Yeah, she looks Ronald Weasley.

[Claudia]

She looks very.

[Mimi]

Not Ronald Weasley. Yeah, that's rough, bro. That's what I say. They had to have been doing crack or something.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claudia]

There's definitely drugs involved.

[Mimi]

So is that it?

[Chelsea Lynn]

That's it. Last Resort Bar. And they actually filmed the movie there. Resort.

[Mimi]

Oh. So like, a lot of those scenes are actually from there.

[Chelsea Lynn]

At least that scene where she's arrested was filmed at that bar.

[Claudia]

Has anybody ever gotten mad at you for Tammy resembling Eileen?

[Chelsea Lynn]

No. Nobody's ever. I'll get comments every once in a while. I'll be like, oh, my God, have you ever seen the movie Monster? You remind me of that girl. I'm like, yeah, yeah, there she is now.

[Claudia]

Yep, that's Tyra. God, she looks like.

[Haley]

That's not what I had at all.

[Claudia]

I pictured, like, black hair and tiny, like the movie, like Christine.

[Mimi]

Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Claudia]

Gosh, that's. It's like a redheaded bird.

[Haley]

Like an older Ronald Weasley.

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Well, that, ladies and gentlemen, is the story of Eileen Warnos.

[Chelsea Lynn]

That was awesome.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no, it was crazy. It's really crazy when you dissect a story like that and. Yeah, like, you know, get to bounce it off each other and, like, have different opinions and same opinions.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Like, it's a huge true crime junkie. And I. I've seen just about everything on her and I even learned some stuff that I never knew.

[Mimi]

Yay.

[Haley]

I learned it all. I'm gonna watch them.

[Mimi]

Oh, you Gotta watch the movie, bro.

[Claudia]

You gotta watch the movie. It'll make you cry.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Oh, my. Watch it tonight. Yeah.

[Claudia]

It's so good. It's so good.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Of the best.

[Mimi]

Watching it tonight.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I watched it last night.

[Haley]

Shoot the ratings of this movie through the.

[Mimi]

Literally, everyone's going to go rewatch this movie again for sure.

[Chelsea Lynn]

You're going to think of trailer trash Tammy the whole time. We almost kind of ruined it for you.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no, it is crazy when you watch the head movements. Dude, it's her. Like, it's you. You have it down. Down pat, dude.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank you.

[Claudia]

Well, thank you for coming on to be one of our guests and to talk about your tour and everybody go.

[Chelsea Lynn]

To eat my eatmytrash.com Patreon. Yes, go to my Patreon. It's in my Instagram bio link. Yeah, that's where I was. I would say. Come on the cruise. We're doing a cruise. A Tammy cruise.

[Claudia]

When is it?

[Chelsea Lynn]

It's in March. We're going to the Bahamas.

[Claudia]

How long is it?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Three nights.

[Claudia]

Oh, that's perfect.

[Mimi]

Yes.

[Claudia]

That'll do it.

[Mimi]

Yeah, that's her limit.

[Claudia]

That's my limit on water.

[Chelsea Lynn]

It's pretty much sold out. I think there's, like, less than 20. 20 cabins left. But it is like we're having a cruise, baby.

[Claudia]

Is it like a comedy cruise or.

[Chelsea Lynn]

It's. I'm headlining the cruise. Like, Tammy is the cruise. Yeah, I'm doing stand up on there. We're doing live podcasts. We have a bunch of, like, fun. We're gonna do, like, bingo with Tammy and.

[Claudia]

Oh, my God, stuff like that.

[Mimi]

Can we all go do bingo, please?

[Chelsea Lynn]

Y' all should come.

[Mimi]

You've never played bingo ever.

[Claudia]

We need to do it in Vegas. Vegas bingo is the best because you have the big rooms of all the old people who are serious.

[Mimi]

Oh, and then you got that glass wall of all the st. Smokers.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I love a bingo haul, dude.

[Claudia]

I love it.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Me and Libby, when we're on tour, if we have a day off, guess where we're. We're at.

[Claudia]

Love it.

[Chelsea Lynn]

We're finding a bingo hall.

[Claudia]

Do you use the dobers or do you. You use the. The computerized ones.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I use the. Oh, old school dobers.

[Claudia]

I always get dobers everywhere.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I don't know if y' all haven't been recently, but they call those numbers so fast. You can't.

[Mimi]

I can't keep up.

[Chelsea Lynn]

You can't?

[Mimi]

No.

[Claudia]

You have to really pay attention. Like, you cannot be on your phone.

[Mimi]

No, no. Those that have like, five dobers and, like, six sheets.

[Claudia]

Just going, dude, stamping.

[Chelsea Lynn]

It's wild.

[Claudia]

Yeah, it's amazing. No, it's addicting. I've won a couple times at bingo, and I. It's the highlight.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yeah.

[Mimi]

Yeah. It's literally the highlight of my life in Vacaville. And those bad boys, those. They're lined up out the door to get those good spots too. Wild.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I love it, dude.

[Claudia]

Dude, I love it. I got a. My dad's gonna kill me for this. I got a DM one time from this lady who was like, your dad's cheating on me with every lady at the bingo hall. I was like, God dang, Bill, not the bingo hall.

[Mimi]

He's horned up at the bingo.

[Claudia]

That's awesome.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thanks for having me, dude.

[Claudia]

I just. Anytime you want to. Come on. You know I love you and just.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Thank you.

[Claudia]

Love everything you're doing. Yeah. Trailer Park Sisters. We're gonna start that series too. We have to.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Yes.

[Claudia]

Let's do it when you get off tour.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Done.

[Claudia]

I think it'll be amazing.

[Chelsea Lynn]

I do too.

[Claudia]

Haley, thanks for not saying much.

[Haley]

I didn't watch the movie.

[Mimi]

She's like, I knew nothing.

[Claudia]

She's like, I did not do my research.

[Chelsea Lynn]

Where am I?

[Mimi]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

And, Mimi, thank you for co hosting these. I love. I love having you on. If you guys think Mimi should be my co host full time, leave me. I don't know if she wants that job, but leave a comment and let us know if you want Mimi to be God.

[Mimi]

That means I'd have to do my makeup more.

[Claudia]

I don't. You look beautiful with no makeup.

[Mimi]

Can I just show up in a mustache every day?

[Claudia]

Every time I.

[Mimi]

Different mustache every time. One like Brett.

[Claudia]

I would love that, dude.

[Mimi]

Yes.

[Chelsea Lynn]

No.

[Claudia]

You need to go tea.

[Mimi]

Oh, a little flavor. Yeah. No, I just ripped. I hate the Flavor Savers.

[Claudia]

I hate the damn Flavor Savers. God dang it. Love you guys. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week.

[Mimi]

Bye.