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Podcast Host 1
Is this thing on?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Don't Blonde. Today's guest is a woman who has.
Podcast Host 1
Been breaking molds, starting conversations and arguments.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And living life unapologetically in the spotlight for decades. She's the og, a model, actress, entrepreneur, mother, and one half of the most iconic couples in the entertainment industry. Ms. Coco Austin in the house.
Coco Austin
Baby. What? I need you around more. Can you, like, write some more stuff? Like, anytime I enter the room, I got you, baby.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Dude, I have loved you forever. So before, when the cameras weren't rolling, you were talking about peep show, shout out to Holly. I love Holly. But when you filled in for her, I made sure I went and saw it.
Coco Austin
You did.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You saw it?
Podcast Host 1
I did.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And you did amazing. And I was in the front row, and I was like, coco. And, like, you turned and looked at me, and you were like, hi. And then you're like, we're doing your thing. But, no, I have always loved everything that you've represented. I love that you're a girl's girl. I love that you have held your own in a world that is so brutal. And, I mean, that just speaks volumes. For decades now.
Coco Austin
Yeah, decades.
Podcast Host 1
Dude.
Coco Austin
It's pretty amazing.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And you're still shining.
Coco Austin
Thank you. Oh, my God. You know, it's so weird to say that, like, people say, like, when did you start modeling? And I was like, well, in 1997. So, like, we're creeping up 30 years now. And I. I talked to girls, and they're in their 20s. They weren't even born when I was doing it.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah. Like, you and I are the same age, so.
Coco Austin
Oh, we are. Okay. Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I'm 45. And you're 46.
Coco Austin
Yep. Yeah. So I was like, you know, there was a whole life before them. You know, even, like, it's just like. Even the Kardashians. I hate to say that. I don't want to even put that out there, but, you know, I was before the Kardashians.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, no, baby.
Coco Austin
We know they think the Kardashians started it all. Like, I'm like. How do I say this correctly? Well, there was a bunch of people that started the whole curvy scene way before the Kardashians.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
And I was happy to say I was one of them. And they just don't. They're not. They're so young that they just don't see that, you know?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Well, and they don't. They don't look at the history and the lore of where it really comes from. I know. I literally. When I started this podcast, you were one of the first people. I've been trying to get on it for the past six years because I have just been obsessed.
Coco Austin
It's been six years. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It hasn't been six. Seven years. Yeah, yeah. Seven years. Yeah. I've been trying to get you on, and I'm just like, dude, I want Coco on. Because, I mean, we grew up together. We were. We lived in an era that nobody will understand unless they lived it. And those times were amazing, dude. Like, they were so good.
Coco Austin
Totally amazing. Like, I go back into, like, the 90s, right? There was ravers. I mean, like, the club scene was, like, so dope. I mean, people talk about, like, the drugs and all that stuff, but that's what that was in. Yeah, that was. Look at what, like, all the, you know, the crazy stuff they're having at parties now, they're coming to light now, but I hate to say it, like, people were having a good ass time.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, no. We were up and loving it. All right.
Coco Austin
We were not some angels back in the day. And so I just, like, I hear these stories and I'm like, well, now everybody's prim and proper, you know?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Is it prim and proper or does everybody want to just cancel everybody for no reason? I feel like everybody thinks they're better than everybody now.
Coco Austin
Everybody.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Whereas before we were all, like, equal and nobody. We weren't, like, judging people because they sin differently.
Coco Austin
It was a fun time.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Yes. Everybody had their opinions, but they stuck to it. Like, okay, that's your opinion. Whatever. Let's move on.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Respect was a huge thing back then. Like, I. Because I came from the streets and. And so I'm huge on respect. And I feel like you also grew up in that same era also. People don't have respect for each other anymore. It's wild.
Coco Austin
And then they also hide behind their electronics so they can bully each other. Hide behind. They can say whatever they want to say and then hide. And we didn't have that. We didn't have the technology that we did back then.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I couldn't agree more. I always say that the Internet shouldn't be free because if people actually had to pay for it to. They would probably watch what they fucking have to say online. You know, like, you would. You would be better stewards of your time if you actually had to fucking pay an Internet bill. You Know, to leave a bad comment, you know, you'd have to pay for that.
Coco Austin
Right? I like that. You know, they would be out of money. Oh. Cause there's waiting to bad comment people, you know.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No, they're terrible humans, but.
Coco Austin
Yeah. But to go back to Vanity Vixens, though, I took over Holly Madison because she was pregnant and I was. They needed someone to fill her spot. And when they asked me to do it, I was like, but I want to dance. Yeah. Because she didn't dance hers. So I was like, because I'm a dancer, I like, let's dance. I don't want to stand up there, you know, and sing and just like jiggle little boobs or something. I really want to dance. And they said, yeah. So they reconstructed that whole show for me for actually my part, or Little Bo Peeps part, I should say. So I. I had it actually. That was the. One of the most amazing experience that and. Well, I think live show, you can't beat it. No, I mean, audience, you can't be. They're there. The energy is great. They're there to see you and no one else. I mean, you feel it with your husband too, when you go on stage. When I go on ISIS stages all the time, they're there to see him and. And it's like, yeah, they want to see me on the sidelines. Okay. I'm there all the time.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But I think that. And we'll talk about this, but I think people are there to see Ice Tea and Coco at this point.
Coco Austin
That's true. They wanna see the package.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Don't sell yourself short.
Coco Austin
They do, but, you know, when they see there and they're like Lip singing his songs, you know, and they know every single word.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
The energy, it's a good energy. And there's just so much love.
Coco Austin
So much love. And you feed off of that, you know? So you can't beat anything that I've done in my whole life. You can't. You cannot beat a live crowd.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Would you ever do another show like that again?
Coco Austin
Of course.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah. Would you go to like Vegas and do like a residency or something like that?
Coco Austin
Well, I actually came back to New York after that because I was out there for almost a year. Came back to New York and I did Vanity Vixens, which was another burlesque show, but that was for only six months. And then I got pregnant, so I was like, okay. And then once I got pregnant, I just kind of put everything on the back burner. I really wanted to be a mom. And I didn't care about anything else. I. And that's why you don't see me, like, on red carpets as much or premieres. I used to be on it all the time. I was like, here, go here with eyes. There with eyes. I mean, we were, like, going out, like, two to three times a week. You know, we were having fun. And then it's just like. It's too much work, right?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Well, yeah, it's a lot of work having to.
Coco Austin
You have to be on all the time. And I'm like, you know what I did? What? Ice and I have been together for 25 years, so 15 years together before I got pregnant. So it was a lot of partying and moving around and seeing the world. And then I was like, okay, got pregnant, and I was like, I kind of, like, chilled.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I feel like you found your sole purpose, though. You know? Like, I feel like you did the modeling, you did the acting. You married a gangster rapper. You did everything that a beautiful, buxom blonde could do. And then it's like when this little baby. Baby just entered your atmosphere.
Coco Austin
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It was completely. She was all. All you. She had all of your attention.
Coco Austin
I. I became obsessed.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Like, it's amazing how something can consume you that you. You literally become like a monster. You come obsessed with this little thing because it's up to you to bring that person up into a good little human being. Yeah. You know, it's up to you. No one else is. So that's why I didn't want to give her to nannies or. Or babysitters or any. Because I feel like then you're being raised by someone else and that you're going to feed off of that personality. You're now kids. Kids start learning about personalities, and they take a little bit of here and a little bit of there, and then they make their own personality. So she has a little bit of ice, she has a little bit of me. But if she was with a nanny 24 7, now she's going to take from that nanny. I feel.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes.
Coco Austin
And I was like, no, I'm. That I'm. It's all me. I want her. No one else can have her.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I love that.
Coco Austin
So I'm very much. I'm very hands on.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No, I see it. She is literally attached to your hip. I'm gonna scroll down to my questions about Ms. Chanel. I was gonna talk about her later on in the podcast, but let's talk about her now. She is literally glued to your hip, like, 24 7. Like, that is your bestie for The Restie. Like, seriously, I think it's so cute. And she is so sassy. I just watched the video of her. You were dropping her off at school and she's just like so sassy in the car.
Coco Austin
Yes. Very much like her own. Like she has an opinion about everything now. And sometimes it's too much of an opinion. It gets me mad. I'm like, no, let's debate about this.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
She's how old? Seven? Eight?
Coco Austin
She is nine.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Nine.
Coco Austin
She's nine.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Okay, sorry.
Coco Austin
She's nine. But going on 20. Right. Because when you're talking to her, you're. It's like you're talking to an adult.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Like she knows things. She's been. I mean, really, she's been around the world in iii. No, she's been on many tours with us, Seen Europe, seen. I mean, she's been in clubs. Okay, Going to say, oh, she's been in club. But her daddy performs in clubs.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Bailey has been in clubs with us since she was a baby. Because it's like, you know.
Coco Austin
Right.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That's what her dad does for a living. It's not like we're taking him there to sit him up on the bar to drink. You know, like, my dad did that to me and he wasn't even doing anything, you know, so.
Coco Austin
Exactly.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
At least, you know, Ice is performing and you're there watching her.
Coco Austin
Yeah. And so, and so like she. That's. She doesn't understand why she can't go to the club when we do really go to the club. Like we have like date nights and we go out. She can't understand. Well, what's the difference? You guys take me out anyway. And so there's some separation anxiety that she has when. When I leave her. Yeah, I kind of have. I. I do too. You know, still to this day, I breastfed for a very long time.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes. Which. Let's talk about that because it's been like such. Well, here.
Podcast Host 1
Let's.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Let's circle back. We'll talk, we'll touch on.
Coco Austin
So much to talk about.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Right. I know there's so much. Let's circle back to the moment that you found out you were pregnant. Were. Did you and Ice do that naturally or was. Did you guys use ivf?
Coco Austin
So. No. So what happened was I was on the pill for 17 years and I really didn't want children. I. I was very career minded. I was like hard headed. My mom, who was also in the entertainment business, she was in soap operas and she collapsed on the soap opera they ran. This is la. They ran her to the hospital. They gave her like two days to live. It was like we were at. My sister and I were like 10 at this time. We said our goodbyes. But this is the day and age. This is 30 years ago when holistic wasn't a thing. Holistic people even know what holistic was. She took her, you know, whatever needles out of her arm and then left from LA to Albuquerque to work with holistic doctor.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And what was her diagnosis? What happened?
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Coco Austin
There's a lot that goes into it. There's a twisted bioduct cancer. Like it was like all kinds of crazy stuff.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh my goodness.
Coco Austin
And she went to the holistic doctor and they shrunk a cancer with T. Wow.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I believe it. I'm. I'm in this all holistic remedies.
Coco Austin
Years later, here she is. And that's because she made that jump. Now I just went off track. There was a.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You got off birth control.
Coco Austin
Oh. So, you know, when she. When my mom was pregnant with me, she would say I had to stop my career. You know, I have to stop my career. Because she was like the first Rams cheerleader. You know, my dad was also an actor, by the way. They met. I can keep on going on, but my parents.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
We'll talk about the family.
Coco Austin
After Chanel on the set of Bonanza, my parents. When they were 14 years old, my parents met on the set of Bonanza and they connected there and they got married at 19, ran to Vegas, secretly got married, boom, had me. She had to stop her career. So kind of like I felt like internally I could never have a child because it would stop my career.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But that was kind of. And I know that your mom probably didn't mean that, but that was traumatic for you to have to hear that and was a lot to carry as a child, you know, you shouldn't have had to carry that and feel like a burden, you know.
Coco Austin
Well, it wasn't like a burden. I just always heard it and thinking, well, no, I'm going to have a career. I'm going to have a career. I'm not going to have children because it's just too hard to have child. She. She struggled. She was a single mom, struggled. And I was like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to struggle. I. And when I got with Ice, kind of things changed. So I got with Ice at 22 and he was like, hey, if you don't want kids, that's up to you. I already got two older children. I Don't need kids, but it's more up to you. I was like, you know what? My birth control. Wait till I get to 35. I get to 35, I'll have a conversation with God and myself. We'll talk about it then. I want to, like, you know, what do you call it? So my wild oats right now, you.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Know, I think everybody should do that. I tell everybody that, even our kid. I'm like, listen, party and have fun and live your life. And then in your mid-30s, decide if you want to have a family.
Coco Austin
Right.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, you don't have to get it out of your 21. You don't do that. Like, go and have a.
Coco Austin
Because you do it later.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Coco Austin
At some point in your life, you want to, like, you know, do that. You want to have fun. So whether it be early or later. So I. I told. I give some. Give me some time. So I was on the pill for 17 years. 35 comes, and I was like, okay, let me think about this. I'm like, what have I not done? Really? I've done everything in this world. I mean, I have everything. You know, there's not much more than a baby is a pretty damn cool thing. So I said, okay, I'm not going to try hard. If it's meant to be, it will come. So I went to my doctor and I asked, what do I do? And she says, well, don't get discouraged. It's gonna take about a year for your body just to regulate itself because you've been on the pill for so long. And I was like, okay, no, no problem. I'm like, you know, I'm patient, whatever. And two months comes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Chanel was like, I'm coming.
Coco Austin
And I was pregnant. I was like, now Ice thinks it's him. Yeah, he thinks it's him.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
How old was I? So at the time, he was, okay.
Coco Austin
So he. So I was 33.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So he's what, 50. 50 something.
Coco Austin
So he's. We were 21 a year difference. So, yeah. So he has to be 50 something, right?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I mean, that's good. At least he's not shooting blanks, right? You know?
Coco Austin
Exactly. Well, that's what he said. He said, you know, I can make a baby through a brick rod raw. So I'm like, okay. He's like, want to? You want to? I'm like, no, I don't want to. So he kind of take. That's him. He thinks. I was like, maybe it's the stroke. Maybe it's the. Right. That's what I say. I'M like, I think it has to be as the right stroke. Yeah. I feel like when there's a lovingness that happens with.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Well, I believe in spirit babies too. And I feel like Chanel chose you totally. She has such an old soul.
Coco Austin
She came to me, actually. I got pregnant on my birthday. I know, exactly. We were in Chicago. It was a snowy day. He was actually there filming a crossover with Law and Order out there. And it was my birthday, and he took me out to dinner, and I wore the right shoes that night. I feel like it's the right shoes because he's all about shoes. He has to see me in the right shoes. That's his turn on. And to this day, those shoes sit on my dresser as, like, a reward. That. That's. Those are the shoes that got me pregnant.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And does he have a foot fetish or just a shoe fetish?
Coco Austin
Well, first it was a shoe fetish, but I turned him into a foot fetish.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, gotcha.
Coco Austin
That he started liking the feet. Like, not like licking or anything like that. It was more like he liked the look of my feet. And he didn't realize he liked feet until he saw my feet. And I. I've. I never. I have really tiny feet. And I was like, beautiful feet. I was like, I didn't even know I had cute feet. But, I mean, now I work with it, you know?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But he just. I think ICE just loves you. I think it could be just anything on you.
Coco Austin
Yes. You feel it. I feel the love all the way. But you could tell there was a. There was a moment there, because when I came back to. To New York and they told me that I was pregnant, I was like, I know exactly when that happened because I felt like the. I almost felt like there was a magical. I felt like when there was a moment. Yeah, it happened. And that's when she like, hello, I want to come. So I just. And. And also the pregnancy, I mean, was so amazing.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, I've heard you talk about it. That it was like a really easy pregnancy. You did three pushes and she came out.
Coco Austin
Oh, my God. And, you know, I tell people that people. People are worried about their weight or whatever before being pregnant. It's really worry about your abs. Like, I felt like if you have, like, really, like, tight abs, you. It doesn't come out as much. And then it's easy for you to get back the abs.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, you look great. You don't even look like you've had a child.
Coco Austin
Well, thank you.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It's crazy. She walked in, I was like, you look amazing. Just body.
Coco Austin
I'm like, I'm very health conscious though. It's like I'm a party girl, but I'm health conscious. I like, I just like rolling his eyes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Life is all about balance.
Coco Austin
It is all about balance.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So, so what's one thing that you hope Chanel never has to heal from that you had to?
Coco Austin
Well, I just, I really worry about the, the people online because I'm now seeing that she's reading these comments online and she see for me, I'm, I'm hard headed. I'm like, whatever, I don't care. Do you care about them? You've never meet them in your life. But for her, she really believes that we'll see them and you know, they'll, they'll ask her questions and I don't know, but they affect her. And I was like, don't read the comments. They don't read the comments. Plain and simple. Like, I don't, yeah, you could turn off the comments but she's going to have to develop some hardness along the way. This is just the beginning, right? And I don't know, I just feel like Chanel is such a good human being. Like her soul is so good. It's too nice that she's too nice to other people.
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Coco Austin
Of like actually that's me.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I was just about to say I think she gets it from her mama.
Coco Austin
I think I've had too many people hurt me in the past because I've been too nice. You know, I, I let that happen. I let people do that. And now I've gotten older, I've kind of gotten a little bit more shrewd. But I feel like you have to get older to be shrewd.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And I think you get to a point when you reach our age that it's like you don't give a how anybody feels about anything if they're disrupting your piece. Get the out.
Coco Austin
Right. Exactly.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
We don't have time for it.
Coco Austin
Right. It's. I don't care anymore. It's like I was trying to make everybody. I was always that girl in the, in the, in the room with that one chick that couldn't Stand me. And I was always trying to get her on board. You know, I would spend all my energy for her to like me because I'm like, I'm a cool chick. Sit down and talk to me. I'm.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
She didn't like you because she was jealous. It's really simple.
Coco Austin
Exactly. And then she won't get to know me. And I think a lot of people just saw the picture of me. They just saw me as that model for so long. And. And. And that's the main reason why I did the reality show, because I wanted them to see my personality because I'm, like, so much more than a picture. And, you know, of course I. I came to through. Okay. My modeling was mostly body modeling. I was a body model.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You're the og. Like, literally, you set the tone. All of these Instagram girls have you to thank for that. I say that all the time. Anytime, like, in any interviews that I do or we talk about, like, you know, this whole movement that's happened, I'm like, that's. We have to give that to Coco, dude. Cause I don't know anybody else besides, like, Bettie Page or, like, you know, who else could we even think of? That was really Dita Von Teese. She was around in our time too. Like, but she was doing, like, the burlesque stuff. Like, you were doing, like, the spicy shit before any of us were doing the spicy shit.
Coco Austin
Right. And actually, the spicy shit that I was doing was actually. Oh, actually, let me go back. I was like, one of the first models to have a website. Yes. Because no one had a website. No one would spend money on themselves. Because that was your business. Right. To spend 15, $20,000 for a website was, like, unheard of for a model. So I was one of those. I think I. I say this in some interviews a long time ago that I was always against Cindy Margolis. Do you remember Cindy Margolis briefly?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Was she the. Like, she was blonde, right?
Coco Austin
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes.
Coco Austin
And she was the most downloaded bikini model at that time.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, that's.
Coco Austin
That's my error.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes, I remember.
Coco Austin
And I always have to tell people to go back 19, you know, like 2000, 1997. Like, go to that era. Because a lot of people are like, kind of thinking, this time, go back to my time for a second.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
My time back in my day. No, I catch myself saying that all the time, I swear to God. Or I'll say shit that my parents said, and I laugh because I'll say it to them and I'll be like, you Ever heard your grandpa say that? Like, it is so funny because I just, like, I can't believe we're at that age where this shit's going on.
Coco Austin
Oh, I got, and I know now I'm saying it, but back then, to spend money on yourself, you want people to actually, you know, use you as a. Let's say this correctly, you know, you want an agent, you want people to basically buy you. Right.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You're selling a brand, and you are the brand. Yes, yes.
Coco Austin
And to have that website was everything.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And I remember you were advertising it pretty much on Ice Loves Cocoa on the show, which I, it inspired me because I was like, okay, this is what we need to do. We need to brand. And so I think that right around that time is when I got into webcam. Because so, so before, I remember, webcam was huge, girl.
Coco Austin
During this time. Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Before all this and before Jay, I was an Instagram girl. And I, you know, I worked in Vegas out there in the casinos, you know, doing stuff like that. And we also did webcam. And it was like, you just inspired a whole generation not to do webcam. I'm not saying you inspired to do webcam, but just that line of work of being able to be proud of showing our bodies and being like, you know what? We are marketing ourselves. We're becoming the brand and being independent, and nobody else can take that from us. And I think that you really are the, the, the goat that started all of that.
Coco Austin
That's so cool. Thank you.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I gotta give you your flowers, baby.
Coco Austin
I do appreciate that.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Well, you deserve them.
Coco Austin
I, I, When I was doing my website, there's an area called Private Zone. And on the Private Zone is when I uploaded videos, actually candid videos of me walking around doing this, doing that. No one's ever seen that because it was pre Instagram. Now Instagram does that. But I was doing this. I was, I was doing this, you know, photo shoots that were a little risque, a little over the top for people, but it was accepting them. It was accepting. Then, you know, I'm talking about. So I guess, you know, people are really into it. Okay. There's like some famous or a known person. I hate saying famous. A known person is kind of showing a little bit more that they shouldn't. And then people loved it. So then when the Instagram thing started, I was like, I kind of been doing this. I've been, you know, can all these candid shots. That's what I've been doing on my website for so long. And, and now I See, like, the girls doing my poses.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Because I thought it was an acrobatic.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
The way you contort your body is insane.
Coco Austin
That's what I was always trying to get in poses that no one's ever done. Never thought about now, you know, I was always trying to think, oh, you know, beyond the pose, you know, beyond that moment, you know, And I now I see poses. Like, I think the iconic one was the Smooth magazine, where I was kind of like, on my. My. On the ground with my butt up in the air. And to this day, all these girls always send me the pictures of them trying to do that pose. It's a hard pose. I mean, it looks easy, but it's a hard pose.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Posing in general, I. Fudgeing.
Coco Austin
Hate it.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, you can ask them. My photo shoots are fast. I'm like, let's get these.
Coco Austin
Posing tired you. You're sore the next day. It's crazy. People don't.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
People are like, oh, you're just a model. And it's like, no, you don't realize what these girls are really having to do. And, like, contort their body and, like, get the shot. It's not easy to look beautiful when your ass is in the air and your head is smashed into the ground.
Coco Austin
Don't breathe. Suck in the stomach, point your toes. Like, all these little things don't have crazy hands.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
You know, like, make sure you don't.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Get the double chin.
Coco Austin
You're so odd doing it, but there is an art to it. There is an art to it.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And then you've always made it beautiful, though. Like, it's never been trashy on your end. It's always been just very, very. Just cocoa. And it's like, that's your own brand, and it's never been tacky, and it's just been beautiful.
Coco Austin
Well, that's why I kind of went to Only Fans, because I'm pretty much. I just took what I was doing on Instagram and uploaded the pictures there because I think it was getting a little too saucy on Instagram, and I was like, no, I. I want to be like a wholesome mother that people see. I don't want them to always see my ass. I'll take that over there. So if you want to see it, you can.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But do you feel like having Chanel has changed your perspective in the pictures and.
Coco Austin
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And all that stuff?
Coco Austin
I think about her all the time. Like, when I'm hitting a pose, I'm like, maybe that's not such a good one. I kind of Bring it down a little bit. Yeah. Because I want her to be happy for me or proud. Because eventually she'll really look. Right now she just says, oh, that's Mommy. That's what mommy does. That what's what mommy does. But I don't want to want it to ever bug her, you know, So I want to do it in an appropriate way that makes her feel comfortable, you know, she knows that's who I'm all about. Okay. Mommy's sexy. You know, she always calls me the hottie toddy. I'm wearing my hottie totty pants today. And so she just rolls her eyes like, okay, so she gets it. But I want to make sure I don't go overboard. That now she's kind of weirded out, you know, so I'm very, like, delicate with it, you know? And everybody's always, like, going into that other page thinking they're going to get a lot more. And I'm like, no, I'm still a mother. Guys like, come on.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah. And it's like, you don't. Not everybody wants to do that, you know, not everybody wants to put it all out there.
Podcast Host 1
True.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
How is only fans doing for you?
Coco Austin
It went so when I first caught on, it was awesome. Like, I was like, people just, like, just want to sit there and just get the same stuff that I'm getting on Instagram.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
They want the experience of being able to talk to you, though.
Coco Austin
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So it's like a personal.
Coco Austin
It is. It's very hard for me, though, because I have so much projects going on and it's just like, that's time consuming. So I really have to even it out. Like, I'm only going to give you this amount of time on my page and then I'm off. I can't be on it all day. You know, I have to pick. I'm not even on every single day. I have to go, you know, during times where it's quiet and I just have to answer. A lot of these companies want to take over my page and does me. But I know for a fact people know who I am. They know my personality and they'll know it's not me replying, but.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And I think that speaks volumes of you because you want to give them the genuine experience. When I. I had of too.
Coco Austin
How was it with you?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Amazing. I made millions off of. It's crazy how, but I was busting it wide open. So you know your girl can't lie.
Coco Austin
You know what?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Somebody's got a picture of my butthole out there. All right.
Coco Austin
It's okay. It's just about me.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I literally only shut down my OF because my husband. I married a rapper, too. I don't know if you know the history, but I've always got the comparisons. We've always got the comparisons to you guys. And I married a rapper, too. And then all of a sudden, my husband is making it in country music, and I'm around all these beautiful, prim and proper Southern women who are not busting it wide open. And I'm like, I don't wanna be the only country music singer's wife whose butthole is on the Internet. You know, I was like. So I prayed to God, and I was just like, you know what, Lord, if this is the right decision, please show me that it is. I shut down my OF and I literally tripled my income after I shut down my of.
Coco Austin
Oh, wow.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So I always tell everybody that, like. And I love my sex worker girlies. I came from Sex Works. That's my. That was who I was before any of this. So I support it fully. And I think anybody who's on there, do whatever you want to do on there. You don't have to.
Coco Austin
Well, you don't have to. Just do. I mean, chefs are on there. You know, fitness trainers are on there. I mean, I think it's such a taboo word.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Well, did you know that OF actually started because it was for music artists? So OF was originally going to be for music artists to have interactive experiences with their fans, and then, you know, us Internet girlies took it over.
Coco Austin
Yeah. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
We were like, oh, yeah, here we go.
Coco Austin
You can make a lot of money. You can.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Absolutely.
Coco Austin
You know, I just kind of make it work for me because I can make so much more money if I wanted to, but I don't have the time.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But you don't. And you're also coco. You don't.
Coco Austin
And I don't need. Exactly. I'm just doing it because I have this extra, like, footage of. I have all this extra stuff.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Might as well get paid while passive income, literally. You're making money while you sleep.
Coco Austin
I'm not going out of my way. I really am. I could easily. And I don't want to at this point. I don't need to.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You're mommy.
Coco Austin
I could easily shut it down. It's not going to affect me, but it's who I am. I'm always going to take sexy pictures, I feel like, until I die. Yeah. I'm like, I was asking about me. Well, when are you going to stop? You Hear all these comments. Don't you think you're too old? No. What is that exactly? It really bothers me because like we're, I think we're setting the tone. You know, I'm really into like good health, my peptides, my liquid whatever, vitamins.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Let's talk about peptides.
Coco Austin
I'm like, I'm like all about that. And I'm like, you know, I think I'm doing a good job keeping myself up, you know, like, I'm sorry. Keeping up with myself.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You are beautiful. And age. I hate the way that people. It's crazy because when somebody dies at 40 or 45, oh my gosh, they were so young. When a woman like us wants to take a sexy picture at 40 or 45, it's, oh my God, you're too old to be doing that.
Coco Austin
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It's like, you can't fucking win. So we're going to do whatever we want, however. But we are really setting the tone for 45 year old women because it was so funny. My, our daughter, she, she like will try to razz me and she'll like, you know, try to like take jabs and she'll be like, yeah, well, you're old. Finally I looked at her one day, I said, I will run laps around you and all your fucking girlfriends. And she's never said it again. She was like, you know what, you're right. You take that back. Yeah, because I just feel like, I think women nowadays were, were aging more gracefully.
Coco Austin
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And not that the women back in the day weren't but like the golden girls.
Coco Austin
I was just gonna say that.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
They were 40.
Coco Austin
So freaking crazy. What? To me they look like more 60s, bro.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, Blanche was not looking 40. Neither was Dorothy. Dorothy was literally looking 73.
Coco Austin
No, I think it has to do. My mom said this, the hairstyle too.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I mean the gray hair, the freaking, the short.
Coco Austin
Short. Yeah. Thing going on. I know. I, I def believe. I think if you're attentive to your body and you know, you, you help it. And I'm, I'm very open to all these cool techie things now that are out. People don't want to accept what's coming. So what if we live to 100, 150 easily, you know, we'll be like batty winkle with the cool technology. I'm just saying with. People are all like, I don't know about this. It's not, I don't know, I'm like, but why not give it a shot? Maybe it might keep you alive longer. That.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And with AI now, I mean, people can have careers for the rest of their lives. Like, it's crazy. You can literally rebrand yourself as Coco Austin for the rest of your life. And people are gonna. You're just. Every generation, you'll be.
Coco Austin
I'm go out. I'm gonna go out with a thong on and do the split. Everybody's like, what are you gonna get to stop doing the splits? I'm like, no, I'm doing it all. All this stuff that irritates the hell out of you, I'm gonna do it all.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Keep doing it, baby. Keep doing it. Because I can't even do the fucking splits, all right? I can't.
Podcast Host 1
I'm jealous.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I can't do a fucking split.
Coco Austin
I was in ballet. I was. I was in actual dance. You know, dance for a while when I. And then it kind of just. I kept with the flexibility my whole life. So it was like.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So let's circle back to that, to the beginning, because, you know, you touched on it really briefly. Tell me a little bit about growing up. You grew up in a family of seven?
Coco Austin
No. So my. It's my mom and my. My dad. They divorced that when I was six years old.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Okay.
Coco Austin
My sister and I grew up in the same household. We're like Irish twins. We're within.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That's the one that's always with you. What is her name again?
Coco Austin
Her name's Christy Christie. Yes. And she's really into yoga and good health and all that good stuff.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Where did I get that? You got. You grew up in a family of seven.
Coco Austin
I don't know where that came from. Now I have three other half brothers that I didn't grow up in the same household. But we're still very close. All of us are very, very close. I don't know where seven came from, but that's funny.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That's right. Sometimes when I Google stuff, they give me, like, crazy answers.
Coco Austin
Yeah. Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But it's okay. So.
Coco Austin
But I'm the oldest. Yes. Of them all, so I set the tone. I'm very bossy. If you ask them all, I'm very much like. I tell them what to do.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That's where you get your head strong ways, though, and why you're so independent. Because I feel like the oldest always. I was the oldest in my house, even though I had an old. I had to A half brother, half sister.
Coco Austin
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You just always. I don't know, it's a. You have. You grow up in the same house. Different home.
Coco Austin
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
If that makes sense than your Siblings.
Coco Austin
Well, then you have to be the leader, too. Someone has to be a leader amongst them. So who's that going to be? Usually it's the older one.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes, usually. Absolutely. So tell me about your mom and your dad. They met on the set of Bonanza. You grew up in Cali?
Coco Austin
Yes, so I grew up in California. They met on the set of Bonanza at 14 and got married, I think 18, 19 years old in Vegas. And they. She had. My mom had me. I'm going to say 19 at 19 years old. And, you know, she was kind of doing it in the world of entertainment at that time. She was like the first Rams cheerleader. They have. They have those reunions actually, still to this day. Wow. Kind of I feel like, why don't you go to reunion? That's kind of cool. That is cool to see all of these, like, little girls that now grown up, you know? Don't you want to see?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So it's when you say reunion, it's the ones that she, like, cheered with.
Coco Austin
Yeah. Oh, they have very first Ram cheerleader, you know. Now. Now, for a long time there was no rhyme, so they brought it back. So. So what happened? So they divorced at sick when I was six years old. And then I went to live with my grandparents, and that's pretty much who I. I was brought up with my grandparents. My mom was a single mom.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So what was your relationship like with your mom growing up?
Coco Austin
Awesome. Yes. She. She was almost like a me. Like, when it comes, like, Chanel and I have the same relationship. She was very much wants to be my bestie type of thing. Was very open about everything, you know, everything. She. She was. I may be too open. She told me way too much stuff early on. But no, we're very, very. To this day, we're very close. Very close. Just so it's my mom and my sister. We're like little, like. I call her the Three Musketeers.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And she's your full sister?
Coco Austin
She's my full sister. But if we're all three together, we all look like sisters. My mom looks not like a mom. Yeah, she looks like a sister.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
How does mom look now? Is she still hot?
Coco Austin
Oh, so hot.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Banging.
Coco Austin
Yes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
See, it just runs in the family.
Coco Austin
So hot. Like, I'm telling. She comes around us, everybody. I'm like, this is my mom. And they're like, oh, my God. Really? She doesn't. She's like a little petite thing, blonde, big boobs, kind of like, you know, we all have a similarity type of thing. But get this I was born dark hair. I don't. I wasn't born blonde. My sister and my mom are both blondes. I was the dark duckling.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No, you say you're the brunette. Yes, I'm brunette, too, naturally.
Coco Austin
Like, almost like black hair. Like, it's so dark and I'm very, very white. Like, I'm talking, like, I call myself see through.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, my husband. I tell him that all the time. I'm like, you are Casper.
Coco Austin
It's. Yeah, exactly. So, like, I just felt like I need to. I looked up to my mother and I wanted to be blonde like her and my sister. Why can't I be like them?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
So when I got around 18, I started to do highlights to my hair. And I remember and never forget, this gay guy was like, this is like thousand years ago. He's like, oh, you're. You're. You're putting highlights in your hair. Oh, you're going to come up for more highlights next week and then week after. And then I get guarantee you you'll be platinum next year.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Did he lie?
Coco Austin
That bothered me. I was like, there's no way I'm brunette. I'm a true brunette. I will always have a little bit of highlights, but. But I will never be platinum. Oh, my God. Was he right? I did a little bit more highlights and a little bit more highlights, and then I was full blast blonde. And I will never forget that. I never went back. I started at 18, and I haven't seen my real, real true hair since then.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It's so hard to go back from being platinum blonde to dark. I have wrestled with it for years. I tell her all the time, this is my manager, but she used to be my hairdresser.
Coco Austin
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And I'm literally like, I want to be red. I want to go dark. And she's like, absolutely fucking not. Buy wigs. She's like, because that's what I do now.
Coco Austin
Yeah, I do. I buy wigs. I just put the wigs on. When I do Photoshop, put the wigs on. Just get it out of my system, you know?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, you have to.
Coco Austin
You're right. So I. I was very much like, okay, I want to fit this whole California vibe. I live in California. Oh, I'm sorry. I was from California, but what happened was my mom got sick. You know, she was on a soap opera at the time she was actually wearing.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Which soap opera was she on?
Coco Austin
I have to ask her. Okay. I thought the Bold and Beautiful. I have to tell. I get it confused now, but she was wearing a teddy she said, and she collapsed. And then he raced her to the hospital. And then they said, you have two days to live. We, you know, said, okay, let's. At that time, we were like 10 years old, right. We had to say our goodbyes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That's got to be so traumatic, dealing with that at 10 years old too, thinking that you're about to lose your best friend.
Coco Austin
Well, we didn't understand. We're like, okay, this is. I remember crying. It was a heat wave too. And my sister and I were like in the bed naked because, you know, in air in California they don't have air conditioning.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It's like swamp coolers.
Coco Austin
Yeah, you're like, you're like the air from the outside is cooling you off. You're like. I remember being so hot from the heat wave and just like, like tears would just come down my. Like, it was just like, you can't get a grip. You're like, yeah, like your mother. You're losing your mother. That's it.
Podcast Host 1
You.
Coco Austin
You don't have a mother for the rest of the way out.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And then what was your relationship like with your father? Was he around?
Coco Austin
Yes. So my dad, he's amazing. He. He just wasn't near us. He lived about three hours away to what's called Victorville, California, Spring Valley Lake kind of area. And so, you know, for him to see us, he'd have to drive like three hours. So we still got to see him every other weekend. But he was Mr. I try anything in the world, you know. He owned a bungee jump business from a hot air balloon type of guy.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, geez.
Coco Austin
Like, he is wild adrenaline junkie. Like, he's like. He's been a stockbroker, he's built houses. He's. I mean, my dad is jack of.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
All trades, master done everything.
Coco Austin
He's always gone to school to do something else and to do. He's always hopping around. Now he just retired just recently. I'm like, what are you going to do with your life?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Because like, my dad needs to find the adrenaline from. Yeah, yeah.
Coco Austin
But he's like, my dad is, is like a natural stocky, like muscular guy.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Is that where you get your muscular build from?
Coco Austin
Exactly, exactly. My dad is actually. My mom has like really amazing like legs like calves and he does too. And my mom has this like little tiny itty bitty waist with like wide hips. But like, she just wants a little oomph. She's like, why can't I get a little oomph in my, in my rare. She just has the Wide hips. Yeah. So then. So then my dad, going back to my dad, he has, like, all these tattoos all over his body. He's like a Harley guy. Like, it's a funny story how his wife had bought him a Harley book for one of these Christmases, right? And, you know, she wasn't even looking at it like this, but he opened up this Harley book, and when he opened up the Harley look, he's on the COVID He's actually it. On his Harley.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Dad's a model.
Coco Austin
Yeah. He didn't even know he was on the COVID of a book.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That is so funny.
Coco Austin
Yes. And then. And his wife at the time didn't even realize it, but he was on his, like, cherry red Harley, like, going down a mountain in full action. And it was him. He was, like, the only one on the COVID I was like, okay, okay. Harley loves you. So he's Mr. Harley Davidson. He's a really cool. Both my characters are, like, really, really cool people, and that's why Ice gets along with them, because you have to have a good mix with your family. And. And my. And both my parents are really, really, like, cool people, you know? And I feel like there's.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I feel like you and I are really cool parents, too, though.
Coco Austin
Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I. I hope so. I feel. I say to Chanel, I'm so cool. You don't even know how cool I am until you see other parents. She's like, tone it down. Tone it down. Tone it down. She won't allow me. Speaking of toning it down, she won't allow me going to school with heels on.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, because she wants you to tone it down.
Coco Austin
She won't. She doesn't want me to, like, be that person. So I. When I go to pick her up from school, I want to make sure I'm not, like, in a dress or I change out of my clothes for what I was doing.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
What kind of tennis shoes does Coco wear? Because I don't think I've ever seen you in a pair of shoes.
Coco Austin
No, I'm actually the funny. The funny story about me having a tennis shoe collection is I would take my dogs to the dog park, and I'd always be in hills at the.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Dog park, trying to walk in grass.
Coco Austin
Oh, yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Just sinking.
Coco Austin
Well, that's the problem is I would always screw up my heels because I was at the dog park, and I was like, mother, I'm. I ruined another pair of hills. I'm like. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have to not ruin hills and Kind of find some tennis shoes, some cute tennis shoes. I mean, I would wear tennis shoes to the gym, right? But then I was like, you know what? I'm gonna get into this like cute tennis shoe vibe. So I have like every color in the world. What kind?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
What kind do you wear? Like, is Nike's your thing? What? Like all that color. Oh, is it? Yeah, yeah.
Coco Austin
It's all about color. It's like, I mean, I have my.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So it doesn't matter the brand, just the color.
Coco Austin
I got my high end sneakers, right, to do that. Whatever. It's Dolce or whatever, Louboutin. I got those sneakers for like cute sweaters and stuff. But like to the gym. I love my freaking sketchers.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I love that.
Coco Austin
Or not everybody's like, what? I'm like, they're the most comfiest and they come in so many cute colors. I, I adore them. And I do have my Nikes, of course, like that. But it's more about taking my outfit and, and coordinating it all together.
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Start your season with savings only at k. Exclusions. Apply ck.comexclusions for details. Well, I always like what the girls were wearing in the strip clubs. So I always try to take that and incorporate my own thing in and wear it out to the real clubs. And I just kind of, like, kind of morphed it into my own thing, but I was like, why can't I wear it out? Like, why? I mean, they look cute. It looks cute on, you know, And I try to transcend a little bit of strip vibe to, like, I love it. A conservative vibe, you can say. And kind of mesh it together.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
And make it.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It's so funny because conservative and coco in the same. In the same sentence. I'm not sure I know we can say that.
Coco Austin
I know how. No, I know there's got to be another word for that, but I wear.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Stripper heels on every red carpet.
Coco Austin
Everywhere. It's like.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Is like, as testament to stay true to myself.
Coco Austin
Okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You know, so like, every. And under every gown that I wear on the red carpet, I've got my clear stripper heels on.
Coco Austin
Well, sometimes you need a little height in those long dresses, too, you know, So I get that. But yours is more of a.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Just, I want to still, like, I might be on the red carpet, but I'm still, you know, that girl, you.
Coco Austin
Know, what's in right now. And I was like, I started that trend and like, everybody just called me hooker and prostitute from it. But the See through anything. See through. Now like they're wearing the see through thing on red carpets.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like Dakota, Dakota Johnson just wore a frickin see through outfit. Nobody called her a prostitute.
Coco Austin
Right. And I was doing that in the 2000s and I was called names and I'm like, oh, that's interesting how it's now a style. I started that style a long time ago.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I feel like anybody who has body and I'm not. Dakota Johnson has a beautiful body. She just doesn't have like bodies like us. Like the abs, the way, you know.
Coco Austin
Like so when it's. When you put it on you, it just looks a little bit like. Okay, what are they trying to do?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Right, right. More in your face. Yes, yes, yes.
Coco Austin
Yeah, that's totally the reason. If you just kind of put it on body, you know, little boobs is.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
A little bit w. Right. Like, you know, like fit, model, thin bodies look completely different in something that we would like wear. Right. So yeah. Where have you always had that style though? Even growing up, were you always like into like matching or.
Coco Austin
Yeah, I was very. Okay. So I remember I would get my Keds from Target when.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh my God, Keds. You're bringing it back.
Coco Austin
Heads. Kids from Target, you can get them for like $6. I remember I was like, when I was like 10 to like 14, I could go and get every color from Keds. I mean blue, you know, fluorescent yellow or whatever. And I remember having a collection of Keds that was like my first collection of hill. I mean of, of just shoes in general. And I would be very matchy matchy. I'm talking if I'm like, right now I'm wearing red and with red lipstick. I can't mix and match. I can't wear pink and red.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, no, that would drive me crazy too.
Coco Austin
It's just like blow. My brain's out. Like I need it to all match. If the yellow has to match the yellow, it can't be off yellows. Like it's very matchy matchy.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Do you have a little bit of ocd?
Coco Austin
Oh, definitely.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
A lot of it actually.
Coco Austin
It's gotten worse. I've noticed.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
As I've gotten older, I can't leave the house without things being in order. Cuz when I come back from wherever I am, it has to be like perfect, perfect. Like model home vibe. Like, like I just walked in a model home and nothing. And it's kind of strange because people and dogs live in it. You're.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I get that too. Your clothes though, and how you have to Match and stuff. That's a form of ocd also.
Coco Austin
Everything is very, very. I mean, someone picks up, I'm picking up after them, and I don't. I don't tell them do it. Like, I just do it. I. I just personally pick up after people.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It feels better to you? It's like a. A release almost to. To be able to just know that if it's going to get cleaned, it's going to clean the right way the first time.
Coco Austin
Oh, yeah. And I don't mind it. And as a matter of fact, I clean my own house and I have cleaners that come, like, once a month because we have a lot of chrome and mirror in our house. So they basically come and they help me with all the shiny stuff in the house. And I like to pick up. Like, I'll pick up before they come.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Me too. Yep, same.
Coco Austin
I don't want to look like a mess.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, I feel bad if they come in and the house is like, looking like a tornado ran through. Like, they. They'll be like, who are these people living here? I don't want to be judged by the people who are coming to clean up after us. Totally get it.
Coco Austin
I got mad one time that ice. I got out of bed. Ice was still in bed, and I had to leave out of the house. And he had someone come to the house when I was gone, and he hadn't made the bed, and. And I was like. It bothered me. Someone was in our bedroom and our bed was not made. I'm like, the one time that I hadn't made the bed and someone comes in our room. Really?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And you, like, think about it all day long. Like, it really just.
Coco Austin
Really? Yeah. I make the bed. So I make the bed every day.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You have to.
Coco Austin
Because you have to kind of. It's like, restarts the day and finishes the day. So I make it. Whether you see it or not. It's made. Fluff the pillows, whatever. It's ready.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And can't get into a bed that's not made at my house. I feel. I feel so off. It's like you have to just peel the covers back, get back, you know, like, you just. I get what you're saying.
Coco Austin
I have a really gross story that we're. We just walked into this hotel, we just checked in, and ice was there to do a lecture. Middle of nowhere, like, Midwest. And we checked in and the first guy was up 24 hours. I like, I need. I need a nap. I need a nap. We just checked in, walked into the room, got into the bed. And I don't know why. I even just, like, wanted to look over at the sheet.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, no.
Coco Austin
But I realized that it was just covered in, like, pubes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No.
Coco Austin
It was so disgusting that I was. First of all, I have ocd. And I was like, no. Did someone deliberately get into this bed?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That is a hell no her. Okay, I'm not doing that. I was like, there's no way.
Coco Austin
No way. I was like. And they made the bed. That's the thing. The bed was freaking made. They didn't. They either didn't clean the sheets from the night before or that someone came in before us and they just only used it for the day. I don't know what it was.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
They just sprinkled the pubes on the pillow.
Coco Austin
But I was. I was like.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, what the hell?
Coco Austin
But it was so much of it. I'm like, how hairy was this person?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, God.
Coco Austin
I.
Podcast Host 1
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Coco Austin
I was like. I had a call down. I was like, someone needs to clean these sheets or, like, do something about this. And they're like, why, is there a problem? And I had to tell them the whole thing. And I'm, like, not trying to be. But I was like, this is nasty.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That's not being that. That if anybody has a right to. It's when there's pubes just overflowing in their bed.
Coco Austin
It's overflowing, too, girl.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I'm not. I can't.
Coco Austin
Oh, my God. But I am very, very ridiculous when it comes to cleaning. I'm constantly cleaning after people, and it hasn't to the point where I go to bed at night thinking, I need to clean this. But when I first wake up, I need to make sure I clean this. Why am I thinking about cleaning?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Where do you think that stems from?
Coco Austin
Everything has to be perfect. Everything. Everything. Me, my hair, my nails, everything. My health, my family. Everything in my life, I feel like, has to be in order.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Do you think that stems from when you were 10 years old and you got scared and thought you were gonna lose your mom? And so, like, that jarred something in you to be like, okay, I need to get healthy. I need to make sure the house is clean. I need to make sure this is perfect, you know, because you just. That was, like, your way of dealing with it.
Coco Austin
I was definitely. Even though I was a child, I was all. I felt like I was a mother, too, you know? Like, I. I, like, I wanted my mom to be proud of me, but the same time, I wanted to take action and, like, you know, help her you know, and I know my sister was gonna do it. She was younger than me, and it was only her and I. So I was very much a take action. But I've been always been wanting to be perfect in every way, and it's a problem. It is definitely a problem in my head. I'm constantly battling myself, like. Like, you don't need to feel this way, but it's. Sometimes it's. Somehow you get through life and it makes life better.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
It's gotten you to where you are. Exactly, exactly. I. I understand that wholeheartedly.
Coco Austin
I hear about the Michael Jackson who family pushing and pushing him. Yeah, at some. Yeah, they were abusive, but they got him to where he was. He. He was push, push, push. I feel like that's kind of me. I'm like, I. I push myself into better, better, better. How do I make myself even more better? You know?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And, I mean, that's why you're literally sitting here today, because you are who you are. And, I mean, I think that as long as it's not hurting your soul or hurting you in any way, if that OCD is fueling your fire, then, you know, lean into it and consider it a strength instead of a weakness.
Coco Austin
Yeah. Yeah, I like that girl.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Totally. So I want to move along to your love story because your love story is so freaking inspiring. You And I together, 25 years.
Coco Austin
Well, coming up, 25 years. So. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That's insane.
Coco Austin
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, that is. That is one of. Probably one of the longest lasting relationships in Hollywood. Like, you guys have stood the testament of time. How have you guys done that? And, like, take me on that journey.
Coco Austin
First of all, everybody always asks, what's the secret? What's the secret? First of all, you got to really love each other. I mean, because, you know, that will bypass, you know, liking someone, loving someone, and then if you don't really love them, it'll just, like, you know, go into dead space, I guess. Right. But it is a good love story. It's. I think, because we're so much alike, you know, like, we always say yin and yang. If you. If I was a guy. If I. So I'm a girl. Of course. If I was a guy, I would be ice. I would be exactly, you know, be rough and tough, you know, be the gangster guy, you know, with style. Then he would be the opposite. You know, if he was a girl, he would be like me, you know, the outlandish, outgoing, you know, crazy chick. You know, so we compliment each other because we're kind of like the same person. You Know, and we know that. And we also let each other shine.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes. That is huge in relationships, because a.
Coco Austin
Lot of people don't want the other person to shine, you know, and so I love when he shines, when he does his thing, you know, when he's having his moment. I love that that's who he is. You know, there's a reason why he's a famous guy is because he does what he does, and then he lets me shine, you know? And so when we walk into the room, we. We have the same energy, you know, he's not up here, or I'm not down here, or I'm not up here, and he's down here. I feel like when some people feel like they don't have the same energy, and that throws each other off, I guess you could say they become jealous of one another.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
And we're always on the same level. We're just like, you know, we take it as it comes. We're very, very, very fun people, too. You know, we just want to, like, live life and have fun and also work really hard. That's the thing, is people see us out on red carpets doing our thing, having fun, but we also work really hard. Yeah, we actually work more than doing all those exciting things.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You guys make hustle look easy, and.
Coco Austin
There'S a lot of hustling going along, along the way. He's a big hustler, and. And I think that's another thing. I'm a big hustler, too, so I'm. I just know what it feels like to hustle, and we just let each other be. But our story actually just kind of came out of nowhere when. So I was 22. Let's go back to this. He was 22. Oh, I was 22. He was 44 at the time, so I was almost 23. And I was then working in the Playboy world, so I was doing all the parties, you know. Yes. Hanging out with Hef, all that stuff. All the girls. It was funny because at the time, there was, like, six girls, you know, and, you know, they want to say it, but they had some competition. You know, they were. They. They were all budding for, like, the best, you know, person to be. But, you know, I. I was around that whole genre, and that's what I was doing at the time. Now, Ice was doing a video, music video for a movie that he had done. And so my agent told me to come with my friend to this particular video. And we were playing models. So we were models on the set. Okay. So at the time, believe it or not, I didn't know who IC Was. Didn't even know. I'm like, I heard his name, but didn't know who he was. I mean, he was. That was. That was before my time. His music was before my time. You know, I'm still a young thing, you know. Right. I'm, like, from the Valley. You know, I actually had a Valley accent and everything. I've actually toned down, but I used to say, like. And oh, my God. I still say, oh, my God.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I say, dude. I say, bro. Cause, you know, growing up in Vegas, I. It's a Valley, too.
Coco Austin
Totally.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Yeah, I've toned it down.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Because I realized I did a lot out here.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
So. But. So I'm just this white girl from the Valley. I'm working on the set, and the producer on the set apparently was trying to cheer Ice up at the time. So he grabbed me, and he grabbed me right out of the bathroom stall. I just went to the bathroom. I didn't even have anything up right yet. And they grabbed me. He's like, I want. I want you to come with me. I want to introduce you to someone. So I didn't even know who I was being introduced to.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Do we know what he was upset about?
Coco Austin
He just didn't want to be there.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
He just.
Coco Austin
He had just started Law and Order.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Okay.
Coco Austin
So he was from California. We're both from California. Right. He just started Law and Order. And, you know, it was just brand new. It was like he was in two years of it. He wasn't even a main character at that point. And so he had to fly all the way to California to do this for his friend. He didn't want to be there. So to cheer him up, they grabbed me, and so I walked up behind him. Now he was wearing a red snake skin suit. I saw that, and I fell in love. I didn't even see his face.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
She's like, I don't care. I just want that one.
Coco Austin
I just saw his suit, and I like the suit because I'm a fan. Flamboyant chick. And I mean, I was wearing, like, a silver sequin, like, tube top at the time. So I was like, shiny, shiny ball at the moment. So I was like, okay. They. He turned around, and he was also wearing pimp hat, which my. I have to add, he's got the pimp hat on. He turned around and he was smiling big. Now we actually have a moment. The very first moment we met, someone took a picture. Oh, very first moment he turned around and smiled. And that was the moment we met. So we actually, I posted online every now and then. So he turned around and then I. And we, you know, say hi, da, da, da. And I walked off. Well, there were so many people around us when we met. He just had to regroup himself. He was like, what just happened now? He says when I walked off, he was just, you know, looking at my face. He just saw my teeth. Right. Instantly because I was so close to him. But when I walked off, he realized I had a little more thickness, you know, than he anticipated. And he's like, he's like, wait, what just happened? I need to regroup myself. So he came back to me when no one's around and he says, excuse me, I just came back and wanted to say hi. Are you married? Can I flirt with you? He's.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And I said a respectful king.
Coco Austin
Very. Yeah. He was just all about trying to get my attention and. And he's like, he's like, have you ever considered dating a gangster rapper? Okay, now, first of all, take you back. I don't know the difference between rappers. They were all the same back then.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Right.
Coco Austin
I didn't know there was a difference.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Right. I was like, what a smooth line.
Coco Austin
He's like, you know, never considered dating a gay gangster rapper. And I was like, well, if he's nice and he's like, will you take the end off? Nice. You get ice.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, geez, look at that. What a player.
Coco Austin
Were you like, how did you know I was gonna use that word? Nice. Ice. Like, how did you know? He's like the God word. The gods gave me that word. I didn't even know that was gonna come to my head. I was like, that was actually pretty smooth. And that from that moment, he was, he was trying to, you know, when you're sitting on the set for many hours, he's trying to gather and keep my attention.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Coco Austin
So he starts doing like magic tricks with like, with quarters and stuff.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
He turns into a little boy. Yes. Just trying to flirt.
Coco Austin
So just stick. Stay with me. So that was like the moment we met and he left to go back to New York and I went. Actually, I was living at Arizona at the time. Right next door to California. People don't know right next door. And I was, I went to Arizona. He had given me a two way pager. Now for people that don't know what a two way pager is. I do. It is what you did with text. That's the very first texting. You texted like this little computer that opened up Like a. Like a little flip. It was like a little computer flip, and you just text. Now, we. That's how we dated. We dated on that because he was on the set most hours of the day, and we couldn't talk on the phone. So we dated for, like, two months through that little pager.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I feel like you get to know somebody pretty well when you have limited time to, like, you know, be in their energy. And you have. You're just forced to kind of communicate like, that way, because you have to show personality and you have to, you know, like. Yeah, you have to dig deep to, like, keep somebody interested.
Coco Austin
And then with the time, you can think about your words, you know, when you're out of that yes zone, you know, like, you're kind of focused and preparing what you're going to say. So it was actually a really good way to. To date, to tell you the truth. And then he suggested coming out to New York and. And I'm. And pretty much I came to New York, and the rest is history. I remember I came back with a suitcase, right? And I came to New York and I had to leave kind of suddenly. I had to go back, and I was like, I'll be back. And he's like, that's a. Famous words. Girls never come back, never want you to leave. Yeah, right, right. But I said, no, I'll leave my suitcase here because girls are going to come back for their shit. I'll leave my suitcase here to know that I'll be back because I want him. Because that was more of a sentimental moment there. Like, I'm gonna leave this behind. So I'll be back. Don't worry. And sure enough, I was back. But I was. I feel like there was a. Such a deep connection with one another. It's like it's more than soul mates. It's like we know we're here for each other.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Twin flames.
Coco Austin
Yeah, Twin flames. Yes. Yes. And I feel like that's we're were meant to be. It's just meant to be. And here we are, almost 25.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Getting 25 years is insane. Getting with him at such a young age. Did you have to go? Because I know he's a little bit older than you. Did you have to, like, kind of sew your wild oats while you were with him?
Coco Austin
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, did you go. Because I've heard you say before in other interviews, like, you've done drugs and stuff like that. Did you have to go through that while you were with him? And did he allow you.
Coco Austin
Well, I was trying to get him open. Like, I was like, believe it or not, he was a conservative one. And I was like, I was the wild one. Like, okay, because you have to go back into the era I was in.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Right, of course. And there's nothing. There's no shame in your past. It made you who you are.
Coco Austin
Nothing. And I don't feel ashamed at all. It's just kind of weird that everybody is like, oh, I would never do that. I'm like, but you didn't live in my time.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, well, good. You're not me. So off. Yeah, so.
Coco Austin
So I was, you know, very much a party girl. And I just loved having fun, you.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Know, before Ice or when you. Okay, yeah, before.
Coco Austin
Before ice. Because I lived in that world. I was in the playboy world. I would. I grew up pretty much in the 90s. Everybody. It was like nothing. People were doing drugs, so it was like everybody was doing it.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh. I started experimenting at 15, 16, so.
Coco Austin
And. But it wasn't a weird thing. Now they make you feel weird about it. Everybody kind of with doing it. And, you know, I got with Ice and he was very straight laced, believe it or not. Yeah, still is. I'm trying to always get him to do stuff.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I think that's so funny because he's like this big gangster rapper, so you think he would be down for anything. But I guess growing up in the streets, it makes you a little more guarded.
Coco Austin
He. He's very much like, has to be in control. Like, has to make sure things, you know, if we go out to a.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Club, sounds like somebody else. I know that's true, actually.
Coco Austin
But more in a club, like, he wants to make sure things are right because things can jump off in the club.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, absolutely.
Coco Austin
You know, things can go haywire.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And he wants someone even step foot in them because they are.
Coco Austin
Because I've noticed about. With Ice, guys like to push his buttons. He likes. They like it because they want him to get mad. And I notice that when you go to the club scene, they're more so to do it, you know, because alcohol's.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Flowing, egos are going.
Coco Austin
Yeah. So he was never into wanting to get drunk or do anything because he wanted to be on point just in case something went down. Right. Meantime, I'm all over the place. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm the girl dancing on the tables, you know? But I love that it's like he.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Let you be, and I love that he kind of let you figure out the woman that you are in all phases.
Coco Austin
And he still does he just lets me be, you know, I. I'm still kind of a wild one, but, like, toned down in a good way. I feel like mamacita, you know? Yeah. I'm very much. Everybody always wants to go out with me because I'm very much the life of the party, you know, I'm always trying to get everybody to have fun.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Like, I don't want you to be in my group and not have fun. I would not want you to sit there.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Right.
Coco Austin
And be grouchy.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
You know, so I'm always the one. Like, I was shot everywhere. Let's do it. And then he's, though. He's sitting back.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Cool.
Podcast Host 1
Ah.
Coco Austin
Just letting me do whatever.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Proud of you.
Coco Austin
Just sitting back, watching.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Proud of you.
Coco Austin
He's like my little guardian angel. Yes. But he. He lets me do what he. He says he doesn't. He never wants to stop the party.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
He says.
Coco Austin
But, I mean, now it's a completely different vibe. Now we hardly go out. We have to stay home. I have school nights.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, you know, I'm sure he loves that too.
Coco Austin
I think so, too. So, like, now he. He wants me to get in cute little things at home. I mean, like, so I walk around cute little things. Chanel's like, like, why does daddy like.
Podcast Host 1
You to wear this?
Coco Austin
He's like, he loves booty shorts. Okay. What do you want me to do? Like, he loves booty. I like wearing, too, but, like, I don't know. I. It's. It is kind of hard when it gets cold out here. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Coco's like, I'm trying to wear booty shorts and a trench coat.
Coco Austin
Yeah, I know. No, I'm just trying to be. Can't. That's the thing is, with Ice, he works hard at what he does.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
He is.
Coco Austin
He's Mr. Hustler. He's doing it all. And if he wants a little booty shorts in his life when he gets home, why not?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I think that's amazing. And that's a good wife.
Coco Austin
I'm trying. Yeah. I'm trying to fulfill my wifely duties, and my wifely duties is wear booty shorts.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I think he's lucky to have somebody who feels like that. I'm the same way with my husband. If what daddy wants, Daddy gets. Yeah. Period.
Coco Austin
But, you know, I need his. If I pull out my cell phone right now, his name that pops up is Big Daddy. I call him Big Daddy because that's what Chanel. Chanel calls him Big Daddy.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So.
Coco Austin
So I'll say Big Daddy, and I'll say that. Weird times. And so Chanel gets so embarrassed now. I was like, okay, big dad. Hey, big daddy. She goes like, so embarrassed. But yeah, it's more of like now it's a joke between us.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But yeah, I love that. Do you ever feel like people underestimate your role in ICE's success? Because behind every successful man is a woman who's got his back? I believe.
Coco Austin
I definitely, I definitely. ICE has a place. Ice has a place. He is a man place. You know, he goes, he does his job, works hard, works hard for his money. And I feel like I'm. My place is keep the house right. That is what I manage. I manage the house. I keep it right. I keep everything sane. Because when he comes out from the streets into the home, he can now relax. So I feel like we have, we have an old fashioned type of love, an old fashioned relationship. You wouldn't see us having an old fashioned relationship, but we know each other's places nowadays. I feel like women must be independent. Like, independent, independent. I'm independent. I don't need a man. I don't need a man. I don't. Okay, well, if you use that, you're never going to get a man if you ever say that. Because men, they want a woman to be submissive. And I know probably get a lot of hate from that.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But no, I preach this on my podcast all the time.
Coco Austin
I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm very, very a power, power woman. Right.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You can be independent and still be submissive for a person that you love out of love.
Coco Austin
And that's what I do with ice. I am very submissive. You know, I just bring it down for him. A man wants to be a man.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes.
Coco Austin
Why can't a woman be a woman? There's a reason why the world goes round. And I just, I've always been on that and I feel like that has to do a lot with our relationship. That's why it's lasted. Because we know our identities, we know what we should do here now. That's why these. I hear so many women ask me, I have so many emails of women, why don't I have this? What do I need to do? What do I need to do? I'm like, stop being. Trying to be such a boss. Yeah, bring it down. You could be a boss in your world, but bring it down a little bit. You know, men got to feel like they're protectors.
Podcast Host 1
Yes.
Coco Austin
You know, they're protectors there and they also want to.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I don't want to use the word damsel in distress, but they, they want, they want to feel like they're taking care of business, like they're able to be a man.
Coco Austin
Right.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You have to let a man be.
Coco Austin
A man taking care of business. That's right. Right. And then they, they get lost. And I feel like there are a lot of these relationships, they get, they're getting twisted now and they don't know what to do. But I think if you just stick with the regular program, how it's always worked for thousands of years, then it's not, it won't be a problem.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Preach it, sister. I say that all the time. One of the biggest fights that my husband and I had when we first got together, because I came in so headstrong and, and was like, I'm independent. I can do this. I don't need you, blah, blah, blah. He said to me one day, he said, bunny, I am outside slaying dragons all day long. He said, I don't want to come into my house and have to slay dragons too. And I was just like. That resonated with me so much. And ever since then, I have made sure you can ask them if. When daddy comes home, it is peaceful, it is everything that he needs. And we don't have any discourse in the house because he's out working hard, I'm out working hard. And when we come home, we just want to enjoy each other and enjoy the moment and not have any drama or arguing or fighting or egos like, check that shit at the door.
Coco Austin
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You know it's true. Yeah.
Coco Austin
You don't need to do it in front of each other.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No, not at all.
Coco Austin
It should be a safe place when you walk in the door. As a matter of fact, I love going to the spa and at the water sounds and the chill music that I made my home that way. You walk in my house, you hear Pandora chill, chill vibe. You hear water fountains. Like, I want that feel, you know, when you come into my house, you're going to feel great energy.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
And I, I just want that to be a known fact that you'll be okay at home leaving out the door. Maybe not like you're leaving out the door, but when you come in the home. I'm the manager of this house. Yes. And you'll be okay.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Your home is your sanctuary. So I'm going to wrap this up and I want to ask you a couple of rapid fire questions if that's okay with you.
Coco Austin
Okay. Well, I think my brain, my brain is slower Than you think, actually.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No, you got this, sister. You're so smart. I've been sitting here talking to you for an hour and a half. All right, what's the most extra thing you've ever done just to look good?
Coco Austin
I mean, I've spent thousands of dollars on tanning salons, ice, Botox, starting at 27. I love Botox.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Same. I will. Same.
Coco Austin
But I Botox in, like, a year because of Peptides, by the way, which.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I want to talk to you about.
Coco Austin
That before you leave. Yeah, I feel like that's kind of taken over. What have I to look good?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I think you answered it. Tanning and Botox and all that stuff.
Coco Austin
Because I was thinking the other day I should have wrote down how much I've sprayed spent as like, a tanning membership since I was, like, 18.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You could put one in your house. That's what I did. I bought a spray tan machine and put it in my house.
Coco Austin
Well, I brought a tanning machine.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, actually.
Coco Austin
But I don't use it there for some reason.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Probably because you like to get out of the house. And it's like, you're like. Yeah, it's like your escape. All right, what's more powerful, cleavage or eye contact?
Coco Austin
Actually, eye contact, because you can, like.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Stare into somebody's soul.
Coco Austin
And sometimes that's why I don't like to wear sunglasses. I'll wear it on top of my head as a fashion statement. But, yes, I think once they see my eyes, I'm like, I'm telling them a lot. Yeah, I love going on.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes. If someone handed you the ox cord right now, what's the first song you'd play?
Coco Austin
Oh, anything. Eighties.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I love eighties music too. Anything.
Coco Austin
I listen to it all day. I turn on my Alexa. Turn on 80s music. I love it. I, I, I love 80s. It just brings me back.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I, it's just a good, It's a good time when there was great fucking music. Yes, bring it back.
Coco Austin
I love it. They need to bring 80s back, actually.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No, for real. What's the most outrageous rumor you've ever heard about yourself?
Coco Austin
Outrageous rumor? I mean, I think I've talked about this a long time, that everybody thought I had implants in my butt.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, that's all natural, right?
Coco Austin
It's all natural. And the thing is, I had to go and actually do a ultrasound to prove it because I thought that was kind of crazy. I was like, you have to see, because I have implants. Yeah, I have implants, and I've changed them out a thousand times. I'm an open book here. Like.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But your ass is so perfect that people think that it's fake.
Coco Austin
Well, you know what? If you get your waist small, the smaller you get your waist, the more ass will look big. Yeah, but I have. If you look at my parents, they have really, really good genes, and they're naturally muscular. So I have the ability to go to the gym and actually, like, I tell ice, give me some Mac and cheese and mashed potatoes. That helps. Is that's my mixture, my concoction.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Get that ass.
Coco Austin
Yes, that's my concoction. All right, ladies. Mashed potatoes.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Mashed potatoes it is. All right.
Coco Austin
And, yeah, there's, like, some. There's these squats that I do, and they're really, really hard, but you have to get them really high. And you get that stuff certain. I mean, it's like that shelf. Shelf on the top. And I. I may. That's why people, like, see me. Sometimes I'm, like, smaller than I am. Sometimes I'm bigger. I fluctuate. Because you're a woman, sometimes in the gym, you can tell my muscles down. Then when I go to the gym, I have muscle. I go back and forth, back and forth. And that's why, you know, I don't have implants, because I go up and down. Implants? You would stay the same the whole time? Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And they would. They would be, like, hard. And, like, I've seen them. They look like baseballs, not jiggly. Yeah.
Coco Austin
I just. I would feel like you wouldn't be able to sit long because I can't. Like, just to lay on my chest at night. It hurts sometimes. So how would you do that with an implant? I just think that's interesting to me.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
But, yeah, I would have to ask somebody who has them because I, I, I've seen a couple of my girlfriends who have had it done, and they just look so painful. Not that we're hating on people who have implants in their houses.
Coco Austin
It's very interesting, though, right? Very.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yes.
Coco Austin
But when I'm around someone, I always, like, can I touch?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, always, Always. When I used to have implants, too, and mine were pretty big like yours. I had an explant done in 2019 laying on my back sometimes, like, any position, like. And I couldn't imagine.
Coco Austin
You took your implants out?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I took them out in 2019.
Coco Austin
Out? Yep. All out. That's amazing. Do you feel so free?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, yeah, it's amazing. It was the best thing I ever did. Do I miss the fake boob cleavage? Absolutely. But at the Same time.
Coco Austin
But it looks so good, though.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Thank you.
Coco Austin
You look like you have something, though.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I appreciate that. You know, I mean, what women don't realize how resilient our bodies are? And if you get your boobs take your implants taken out, if you give yourself a year, your boobs will fluff back up the majority of the time. Not all the time.
Coco Austin
What if you had them for, you know, a thousand years?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I had mine for 13, 14 years, and I took them out.
Coco Austin
I've had my. I. I had mine, my first ones at 18. Yeah, I've changed them out several times. I got bigger. Bigger.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
They look.
Coco Austin
I actually were. I was actually bigger. I actually reduced them, believe it or not.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
How big are they now?
Coco Austin
If you. They're double Ds. Okay, whatever.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So what were they before? Because these. These are.
Coco Austin
They were. They were like. Like they were up. They were so high. They were so high. And then I just brought them down. Several years before breastfeeding for I. I actually had an accident on peep show. I. There's a moment on stage where the girls in a blackout, when the stage goes blacked out, all the dancers run in complete blackness, but they know the spots where to run to. Well, apparently I was off just a smidge. And I ran right into the wonder wall, like the corner of the LED screen.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, no.
Coco Austin
And I ran right in the middle of it and I went backwards and. And I. I actually passed out.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, no.
Coco Austin
During the show? No, behind the show. And it was a corner from here all the way down, down my boob. All the way was a bruise.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, no. Were you okay?
Coco Austin
When I woke up, I didn't realize I did it. I grabbed my boob. Something had happened to my boob. No, I was like. And I looked down because it was middle of show. I was like, oh, my God, it's still here. It's. Oh, my God. What happened? What happened? I was asking everybody because I didn't know how long I was out. And I would. I got it together, went right back on stage like nothing happened.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You're a soldier.
Coco Austin
And two. Two years later, I started seeing that my breast was moving. And I was like, I know I did something on that stage. I know I did something thing. But I was trying to hold out. I didn't want to change my implants because I knew I wanted to have a child and I want to have to change my blood and then have a child and change them out again. So I was trying to hold out. And then ice is like, you should probably go get that checked. And so I did. I went to the doctor. Sure enough, I had a ruptured implant.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, no.
Coco Austin
But one thing with silicone is it stays in the pocket. So it's not. Wasn't leaking into the body. It was staying in the pocket.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
That was my next question. If any of it leaked out.
Coco Austin
No, it just stayed. Stays there when you have a pocket, stays there. So when he came. When he. When he. He told me, he's like, yeah, it was ruptured, and he changed it. And then I was. Then I got pregnant that month. I got some new nice set of boobs, and I got pregnant, and then I breastfed for six years.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
So just to touch base, because I know we. We glazed over it really quick, and. And then I'll let you go, because I know we're. We could sit here and talk for hours, literally.
Podcast Host 1
Are you still breastfeeding, Chanel, or did.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You guys finally wean off? Or is that something that you guys still do?
Coco Austin
So the whole concept of the breastfeeding thing, it wasn't like I was feeding her because she needed a meal, right? She was able to eat, you know, by a year, you know, full, like, solids. It was more of a bonding experience, and then more of like, okay, I'll give you the milk. But it was more like she wanted to be around me. So I was like, I'm gonna let her stop when she wants to stop. She's not gonna be 16 on my boob, right? Like, she's gonna eventually figure out, okay, this is kind of strange or weird and stuff. And that happened around 6? No. So that was around 6, which was still extremely long amount of time, apparently. But in Europe, they're doing till seven. Like, there. It's nothing to them. Americans think that's weird, but I don't.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Think there's really anything wrong with it, as long as, you know, it's just. It's your home, you know, so it's. Whatever you guys are doing, and it's.
Coco Austin
She's.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
She's not feeling weird about it. You're not feeling weird. It's not a weird thing. I think us as a world, we sexualize everything. And it's not like it's innocent. It's mother, daughter.
Coco Austin
And it was mo. Mostly when she went to sleep, she wanted me to be there. So it was more of, like, a comfort. A comfort thing with her. But I got so many people that loved it. Like, they were on my side. I had everybody come out of the woodwork when it comes to breastfeeding. Ladies they were like, so on my side. And I was like, oh, this is so nice. Because it was. I was the only one speaking about it.
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Coco Austin
And I'm like, why is it so hard? Like, people have been doing this for.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Thousands of years because the world shames everybody for everything.
Coco Austin
Like, it's not a big thing. It's the boob. Come on. So to this day, though, she. She's obsessed with boobs. No, I bet she loves boobs. I think she's like, she's always very comforted. She's like, his pillows and stuff like that. So she's like, sitting. Always sitting there, laying on me. And then it's just a really nice moment because it's like, it's not going to be like this. And when they get into the teenage years, you know, so. Yeah, I'm like, loving every moment I can with Chanel.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Just eat it up. You're a great mom. You're a great mom. You're a great wife.
Coco Austin
You.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You are an icon. And please don't ever let anything these motherfuckers say online ever get to you, because you know who you are. You know your legacy that you've built. And you have literally stood the test of time for decades and stayed relevant. And that is almost impossible to do in this world today. So just always know that you are that girl.
Coco Austin
Thank you. I've been. It's been hard because it's almost like people want me to transition on my Instagram. You know, I'm. I'm very much. You can see me. I love my mother's side, and everybody wants me to transition into something. Like, what do you want me to transition? I'm gonna stay true to who I am, you know, whatever. I'm gonna be a great mother, but a sexy great mother.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
It's like, why can't. Why do I have to get a moomoo or something?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I don't know why you can't be sexy and be a mom. Like, this is. This is such a weird thing that people in the frickin Internet world have, like, come up with. And it's like, right. I get that. Maybe it makes some people uncomfortable because their moms weren't sexy, or maybe they didn't grow up in the same lifestyles that we have. But you can still be hot and still be a great mother.
Coco Austin
Right. It's the truth. And I feel like I'm showing confidence in the house with Chanel or anybody that's in my family. I'm trying to even teach my nieces, too because they're going through an odd stage, you know, like teenage life. And I'm like, I was always very confident of who I am. And for some reason, when you have confidence, you're able to get further because you're not hiding in the shadows. So I'm trying to teach that confidence. So there's something to it. Yes. You know, okay. Overconfidence. I get it. But there's only one Coco.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah, exactly, baby.
Coco Austin
Screw one Coco. I'm not going to tone down now. Why would I tone down now?
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Turn down for what? Motherfuckers, Right?
Coco Austin
I know. Like 46 years old. Be like, it's only 90. 100, baby.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Keep doing you.
Coco Austin
Thank you.
Podcast Host 1
Keep doing you.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You look beautiful. You are a beautiful soul. Your energy is so pure. I wish that people could actually, like, sit with you like I have for the past two hours and get to just talk to you and feel your. Your essence. They would totally understand you.
Coco Austin
And I can't believe we made this happen. I know. We. We finally made it because. So happy you came to me. And then I was like, oh, I have to like, what's going on? I have to get into this. What's. I'm like, if. Yeah, I'll come to do your podcast, but I don't know how I'm gonna get to it. Yeah. Because, you know, being a mother, it's. You can't get away.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Absolutely. No, thank you. Thank you for making time today. I really appreciate it.
Coco Austin
No, thank you for having me. This is an honor. Thank you for coming to me.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, of course.
Podcast Host 1
Absolutely.
Coco Austin
You're. You're a hot ass babe, too.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Oh, I. I appreciate you.
Coco Austin
I love you. I love the fact that when you came to me, I was like, okay, let me look into this buddy chick. Let's see what's going on over there. I'm like, okay, I get it. I get it. She's very similar to me, actually.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
No, the similarities are crazy. I didn't want to keep comparing, but, like, Even how, like, ICE lets you just be yourself, my husband is 100% that person. I saw a video or an interview where ICE was like, they were asking him, don't you hate that your wife takes sexy pictures? And he's like, I take the picture.
Podcast Host 1
Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
My husband has literally said in interviews, if you marry a show pony, you don't keep it in the freaking stall, you know? Or like, if you marry a sports car, you don't keep it in the garage.
Coco Austin
That's ice.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Like, no, that's my husband. We got to get them together. They will get along so well.
Coco Austin
I know. I think they would, too. I think they would have a lot of similarities.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Also, maybe one of these times when we're out here, we can all go to dinner or something, right?
Coco Austin
We're here. New York. Yes. All right.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Tell everybody where they can see you, where they can find you online if they aren't already following you.
Coco Austin
Okay. Yeah. So Instagram is Coco. Facebook is Coco. I got on X. I think it's just Coco's World.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Because that's. I never changed that up. And. Oh, only fans, I guess.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah. Shout it out, I guess.
Coco Austin
What? Just Coco over there, right? You can't. There's no number or anything. But, yeah, Coco. I think I'm just Coco on everything.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Just listen. If you guys don't know who Coco is, you've been living under a rock.
Coco Austin
Yes. But, yeah, follow me on Instagram because I feel like nowadays it's almost like they. I like, I looked at my Instagram page and it was like, in this month, there's 30 million views. Says a lot. So they'll look at me from a distance, but they won't follow me. It's very funny. I mean, I have 3 million people, but it's very. It's very interesting. I'm like, well, why won't you. If you're very interested in me, then follow me. You know, get to know me, you know, And I try to write back to people, too, on Instagram. I mean, I can't spend all day writing back, but first time I post, I'll try to write back to, like, questions right away, but then that will fade out because it just is too much. But I try to write back. There was a time on, like, Coco's World, I'd say really fast, all the emails that came through, I replied to every single one of them. Now it's too many, but I would. Yeah, I just try to make everybody feel comfortable, including women. I want women to know that I'm like, a real person. And I'm like. I say, someone said you're like a best friend. I'm like, everybody's. I'm America's best friend.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
There you go.
Coco Austin
You know, if you need my assistance, if you need some help, I'm there as your guide.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I think young women need a woman like you to look up to. So I think that that's really awesome that you're so giving with your time when you really don't have to be. I mean, just to even sit there and DM people, to just always Exude positivity. Just to always try to teach women, like, hey, you can be confident, beautiful, a mom. Like, everything that you do is just. You don't have to do it and you still do it.
Coco Austin
So I try to go on my way. There's.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
There's.
Coco Austin
Yes. Everybody always says that. I'm like, no, I'll do this till the day I die. I got to make sure everybody's right. I want everybody to be happy with me.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Well, we all love you, Coco.
Coco Austin
Thank you.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
And please, like I said, don't listen to the bullshit online because the people that. They're your tribe that loves you, loves you and the other motherfuckers, they're opinions don't matter.
Coco Austin
True, true. That's.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
I'm blindsided on those people do like you do, Chanel. Don't read the comments.
Coco Austin
I know. Don't read. I don't, actually. I. I try to like an. Just answer the questions and not read the qu. I know that's kind of hard to say, but hey, you know what? And if they get to me, it doesn't bother me.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Yeah.
Coco Austin
Cuz I know that it's pissing you off in some type of way that actually you have to say something. Take the time and say something. Okay, well, then your life needs to move on. Like. Yeah.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Now obviously you're not happy with your life if you're already leaving comments like that to somebody that you've never even met.
Coco Austin
Exactly.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
You better come back and visit me, Coco.
Coco Austin
I will, I will. Thank you for coming to me. I appreciate it.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Appreciate you. And thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde.
Podcast Host 1
I'll see you guys next week.
Podcast Host 2 (Bunny)
Bye.
Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde – “The Trophy Wife That Built An Empire: Coco Austin”
Release Date: November 9, 2025
Host: Bunnie XO (Dumb Blonde Productions)
Guest: Coco Austin
This episode features the iconic Coco Austin—model, actress, entrepreneur, and the legendary partner to Ice-T—on an unfiltered, deeply personal, and hilarious journey through her life in the spotlight. Host Bunnie XO dives into Coco’s trailblazing career, family life, motherhood, the pressures of social media, being an “OG” influencer, and the secrets behind her enduring relationship, all laced with candid stories and memorable banter.
Started modeling in 1997, making her a veteran with 30 years in the industry (04:05).
Paved the way for the curvy, confident style mainstreamed by current celebrities:
“There was a bunch of people that started the whole curvy scene way before the Kardashians... I was happy to say I was one of them.” (04:46 - Coco)
Early adopter of building a personal brand and website before “influencer” was a thing:
“I was one of the first models to have a website... to spend 15, $20,000 for a website was, like, unheard of for a model.” (26:55 - Coco)
Reflects on club and rave life in the 90s and compares it to today’s “cancel culture”:
“Now everybody wants to just cancel everybody for no reason…Before we were, like, equal and we weren’t, like, judging people because they sin differently.” (06:09 - Bunnie XO)
Discusses the impact of online negativity and cyberbullying, especially for the next generation:
“Now they can bully each other behind electronics… We didn’t have that.” (06:43 - Coco) “I always say, the internet shouldn’t be free… You’d be better stewards of your time if you actually had to pay an internet bill to leave a bad comment.” (06:56 - Bunnie XO)
Coco’s devotion to raising her daughter, Chanel, hands-on without nannies:
“I didn’t want to give her to nannies ... I’m very much a hands-on mother.” (11:09 - Coco)
Challenges and joys of raising a mini-celebrity:
“She’s nine, but going on 20. Right? Because when you’re talking to her, it’s like you’re talking to an adult.” (11:57 - Coco) “She doesn’t understand why she can’t go to the club when we do really go to the club.” (12:37 - Coco) “Breastfed for a very long time… I became obsessed.” (10:24, 13:01 - Coco)
Addresses backlash about extended breastfeeding and defends mother-daughter bonding:
“The whole concept of breastfeeding...it was more of a bonding experience … I was the only one speaking about it.” (90:02 - 91:31 - Coco)
On her evolution from risqué model shots to OnlyFans:
“I just took what I was doing on Instagram and uploaded the pictures there because I think it was getting a little too saucy on Instagram.” (32:00 - Coco)
Balancing sexy branding and motherhood, and not giving into public pressure:
“I want to be a wholesome mother...I want her to be happy or proud. I don’t want it to ever bug her.” (32:31 - Coco)
On being called the “OG” and influencing a generation of women to own their image and sexuality:
“You inspired a whole generation...of being able to be proud of showing our bodies and being like, you know what? We are marketing ourselves. We’re becoming the brand and being independent, and nobody else can take that from us.” (28:50 - 29:28 - Bunnie XO)
Together almost 25 years—one of Hollywood’s longest-standing couples.
On compatibility and letting each other shine:
“If I was a guy, I’d be Ice...We compliment each other because we’re kind of the same person, and we know that. And we also let each other shine.” (63:09 - Coco)
Old-fashioned romance with a modern twist:
“We have an old-fashioned relationship...He goes, he does his job, works hard for his money. My place is to keep the house right...we know each other’s places.” (78:27 - Coco)
On being a “submissive” partner out of love, not weakness:
“I’m very much a power woman. Right. But I am very submissive, you know, I just bring it down for him. A man wants to be a man. Why can’t a woman be a woman?” (79:32 - 79:44 - Coco)
Addresses persistent rumors about cosmetic surgery (natural vs. enhanced):
“Everybody thought I had implants in my butt...I had to go and actually do an ultrasound to prove it...” (84:20 - Coco) "If you get your waist small, the smaller you get your waist, the more ass will look big... I have naturally muscular genes." (84:47 - Coco)
On aging, confidence, and breaking taboos:
“People ask, don’t you think you’re too old? No. What is that exactly?...We’re setting the tone...I think women nowadays, we’re aging more gracefully.” (36:29, 37:04 - Coco & Bunnie XO)
Confesses to being “ridiculous” about cleanliness and organization—her OCD as both a strength and a challenge:
“Everything has to be perfect. Me, my hair, my nails, everything. My health, my family. Everything in my life, I feel like, has to be in order.” (60:47 - Coco)
On Being an OG Curvy Model:
“I was before the Kardashians...I was happy to say I was one of them.” (04:46 - Coco)
On Internet Hate:
"If people had to pay for it to...leave a bad comment, you’d have to pay for that. I like that. They would be out of money." (06:56 - Bunnie XO & 07:13 - Coco)
On Motherhood:
“I became obsessed…It’s amazing how something can consume you.” (10:26 - Coco)
On Relationship Dynamics:
"We have an old-fashioned relationship...You wouldn’t see us having an old-fashioned relationship, but we know each other’s places." (78:27 - Coco)
On Public Perceptions and Rumors:
“Everybody thought I had implants in my butt...I had to go and actually do an ultrasound to prove it.” (84:20 - Coco)
On Confidence and Longevity:
“When you have confidence, you’re able to get further because you’re not hiding in the shadows...There’s only one Coco. I’m not going to tone down now. Why would I tone down now?” (93:15 - Coco)
This episode pulls back the curtain on Coco Austin’s life—her groundbreaking influence on body positivity, her approach to parenting in the digital age, the balancing act of personal branding and motherhood, and the real story behind her decades-long relationship with Ice-T. With humor and heart, Coco and Bunnie XO confront taboos, celebrate resilience, and challenge stereotypes, reminding listeners to embrace their individuality, own their narrative, and never apologize for evolving—or for aging confidently.
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Final Word:
“I’m going to be a great mother, but a sexy great mother...There’s only one Coco. I’m not going to tone down now. Why would I tone down now?” (92:49, 93:52 - Coco)
For anyone who hasn’t listened, this lively and heartfelt conversation is essential for understanding the journey and impact of one of entertainment’s most influential—and unapologetic—figures.