Throwback Thursday: Brandy & Billy - From Olive Garden to Only Fans

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dumb Blonde Productions Episode: Throwback Thursday: Brandy & Billy - From Olive Garden to Only Fans
Release Date: December 12, 2024

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Introduction and Guest Introduction

In this heartfelt and humorous episode of the Dumb Blonde podcast, host Bunnie XO welcomes special guests Brandy and Billy. The episode delves deep into their personal journeys, exploring themes of trauma, relationships, personal growth, and the unexpected paths that led them to social media fame.

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Personal Histories and Early Life Trauma

Brandy opens up about her tumultuous childhood, painting a vivid picture of early adversity. She was taken away from her parents at the age of three due to her mother's struggles with addiction and raised by her aunt alongside her siblings. This separation and subsequent experiences on a tobacco farm in Kentucky left lasting scars.

Brandy: "[00:47] You guys already know the toasted coconut." (Aside: This quote is part of an advertisement segment and is skipped in the summary.)

Jessica shares her harrowing experience of being kidnapped by her father at the age of eight, a traumatic event that led to years of instability and neglect. Despite these challenges, Brandy portrays herself as a resilient individual who has always sought attention in unconventional ways to cope with her past.

Jessica: "[14:15] My dad was a drug addict. Very, very abusive. I don't remember a lot about my parents, but my older sister does, and she kind of tells me stories."

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Navigating Adulthood: Relationships and Marriage

The conversation shifts to Brandy's adult life, where she discusses her first marriage. At 17, she married her high school sweetheart, with whom she had two children. However, the marriage was fraught with issues, leading to a swift and devastating divorce when Brandy found herself financially unstable and on the brink of eviction.

Brandy: "[24:19] All right, we're gonna get into that. What we got up to. You getting to college. Let's find out where you grew up, and let's get you all the way up to where we got her."

During the divorce process, Brandy met Billy under serendipitous circumstances. Their relationship developed amid shared struggles, including mutual divorces and personal insecurities. Their first dates were unconventional, involving long car rides and emotional connections despite initial hesitations.

Brandy: "[41:36] How could you not respect that?"

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The Wedding Saga: Chaos at the Aisle

One of the most gripping parts of the episode is the detailed recounting of Brandy and Billy's wedding day. What was meant to be a joyous occasion turned into chaos when Billy exhibited uncharacteristic behavior, including excessive crying and erratic actions, leading to suspicions of drugging. This incident deeply affected their relationship, highlighting underlying issues and trust concerns.

Jessica: "[74:07] I know without a shadow of a doubt that Billy was drugged at our wedding, and it completely destroyed it."

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Embracing Social Media: TikTok and OnlyFans Journey

Post-marriage turmoil, Brandy and Billy turned to social media platforms like TikTok and OnlyFans to rebuild their lives. Brandy's initial foray into TikTok with her daughter began as a creative solution to manage household challenges during quarantine. The genuine and relatable content quickly garnered attention, propelling them into the social media spotlight.

Jessica: "[83:45] I think people were shocked because of the image that we've built. Like, the more I don't even cuss on TikTok. Billy doesn't want me to."

The couple discusses the meteoric rise of their online presence, achieving millions of followers through authentic and humorous interactions. They also touch upon the challenges of managing mental health amidst online fame, particularly dealing with negative comments and anxiety related to their social media performance.

Brandy: "[96:28] Sometimes you need to take a break, though, and just step back because it's social media."

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Mental Health and Personal Growth

Throughout the episode, Brandy and Jessica emphasize the importance of mental health. Jessica candidly speaks about her struggles with seasonal depression and anxiety exacerbated by online negativity. Brandy offers supportive advice on embracing one's darkness and not letting external judgments define self-worth.

Brandy: "[24:19] That was one thing I learned when I had to go through all my healing was you literally have to become friends with the darkness, because the more scared of it you are, the more it's going to hurt you again."

Billy also opens up about his battle with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), highlighting the misconceptions surrounding the condition and advocating for specialized therapy.

Billy: "[60:30] NOCD is a virtual therapy provider for OCD that makes getting specialized therapy easier than ever."

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Future Plans and Business Ventures

Looking ahead, Brandy and Billy discuss their aspirations beyond social media. They express a desire to start their own business, exploring ideas like houseboat rentals and jet ski services. Their goal is to create financial stability independent of their online platforms while continuing to support each other through personal and professional endeavors.

Brandy: "[93:36] We're not sure yet what that business is, whether it's going to be owning a bunch of houseboats and renting them out. But we want to be able to make a living off something completely away from relying on social media."

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Conclusion and Takeaways

This episode of Dumb Blonde offers an intimate look into Brandy and Billy's lives, blending humor with profound personal revelations. Their story is one of resilience, love, and the quest for authenticity in the face of adversity. Listeners are left with a deeper understanding of the complexities behind their online personas and the real-life challenges they navigate.

Brandy: "[97:22] We built, you know, a huge business, all of us, on social media, but you can't let it affect you mentally like that because you have to realize that aside from that, you are a human with a heart that beats and it doesn't matter what goes on on there."

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Notable Quotes

• Jessica on Childhood Trauma: "[14:15] My dad was a drug addict. Very, very abusive..."
• Brandy on Mental Healing: "[24:19] You literally have to become friends with the darkness..."
• Billy on OCD: "[60:30] NOCD is a virtual therapy provider for OCD..."
• Jessica on Social Media Pressure: "[87:13] It was the craziest. We just were mind blown..."
• Brandy on Social Media Impact: "[97:44] Sometimes you need to take a break, though, and just step back because it's social media."

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Final Thoughts

Brandy and Billy's candid discussions provide a blend of humor, vulnerability, and inspiration, embodying the essence of the Dumb Blonde podcast's mission to tackle real-life issues with authenticity and wit. This episode serves as a testament to their enduring bond and unwavering spirit, making it a must-listen for anyone seeking relatable and engaging content.

Transcript

[Brandy]

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[Billy]

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[Brandy]

You guys already know the toasted coconut.

[Billy]

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[Brandy]

Past midnight even to 5am and nobody's going to tell you to go to sleep.

[Billy]

But it's not all fun. You also have to do your taxes and figure out what's for dinner every freaking night and make doctor's appointments.

[Brandy]

And for that one there's ZocDoc, the.

[Billy]

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[Brandy]

It was quick, efficient.

[Billy]

I got my prescriptions and I'm already.

[Brandy]

On the up and up. Feeling better?

[Billy]

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[Jessica]

All right, gentlemen, coming to main stage next, this is Bunny. Get up there. She's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J.

[Brandy]

Fox.

[Jessica]

So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars.

[Brandy]

Dude, that is fucking iconic.

[Billy]

What's up, you sexy motherfuckers?

[Brandy]

Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. You guys, I got motherfucking Billy and Brandy in the house, baby. Finally. Well, what's up, guys?

[Jessica]

What's up? Took us a couple tries to get here, but we finally made it.

[Brandy]

I love it. Billy, are you going to be shy today?

[Jay]

No, I shy. I'm excited to be here.

[Brandy]

Billy's like, I am not excited to be here. My girl drugged me here. And that's exactly what's going on. Well, I figured to kind of, like, soften the blow of being on the podcast, I'm going to ask you guys a couple of questions and you guys got to give me answers. Okay. And then we'll get into, like, your life story and how you guys got on Tick tock and all that jazz.

[Jessica]

Sweet.

[Brandy]

Is that good?

[Jay]

Yep.

[Brandy]

All right, Billy and Brandy. Billy, you have to let Brandy suck mayo off your wiener or you have to, like, mustard off her tits for $1,000,000. Which one are you doing?

[Jay]

Oh, she's sucking on me. I ain't licking none of that.

[Brandy]

Is it mustard or mayonnaise that you don't like?

[Jay]

Oh, either one. I hate them both, right?

[Jessica]

Both would literally like if it even. He smelt it. It touched him. It went around his tongue. I'm telling you, he would gag.

[Brandy]

Is it condiments in general?

[Jessica]

Yes, mostly.

[Brandy]

Something traumatic happen to you as a child with condiments?

[Jay]

No, Never? No, I just. The texturing just. I don't know.

[Brandy]

You just don't like sauce?

[Jay]

No.

[Jessica]

You just eat dry assault ketchup. If you talk about ketchup being blood, he's.

[Jay]

I can only have it with French fries, though. And I can't. They can't touch nothing else, though. Ketchup.

[Brandy]

That's crazy. So mayonnaise, mustard, barbecue.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Jay]

Barbecue. It has to be, like, on the hot dog or, like.

[Brandy]

So you can't have, like, white stuff.

[Jay]

Oh, no.

[Brandy]

Is that what.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Or mayonnaise.

[Brandy]

I love a good old mayonnaise.

[Jay]

Mustard and all that stuff.

[Brandy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Billy]

That's crazy.

[Brandy]

All right, we're gonna play Mary, Kill, Unalive. You have to pick. You guys know how to play Mary. I'm acting like we're on Tick Tock right now. Mary, Kill and Bubba. And Bubba and Angela, Jelly Roll and Bunny. Or Pumpkin and Josh. Which ones are you doing?

[Jay]

I don't get it.

[Brandy]

Okay, I lost. Okay, okay, so I'm naming three couples, and you have to say which one you'll marry, kill, or fuck out of the three that I give you.

[Jessica]

So I would kill Pumpkin, whoever that is.

[Brandy]

Pumpkin and Alana and, like, Josh from Honey Boo Boo.

[Jessica]

So I don't. I don't really know them. So we would go with them. Killing and what's my other options? Fucking what?

[Brandy]

Fucking Mary, Jelly Roll and Bunny and Bubba.

[Jessica]

Okay, definitely fuck Bunny and Mary, Angela and Bubba.

[Brandy]

Yeah, I love that. All right, cool. He said. I don't get it. That's a sound bite for everything. If you had to be an aquatic animal, which one would you be?

[Jessica]

I would be a dolphin.

[Brandy]

Me too. I said the same thing because you could fuck everybody.

[Jay]

Oh, wow.

[Brandy]

They go around trying to fuck everybody.

[Jessica]

I didn't. I didn't go that route, but I more was, you know, it's beautiful. It's graceful in the water, but they're very aggressive.

[Brandy]

Oh, gotcha. I didn't think about that.

[Jessica]

Yeah, they're fucking aggressive. Yeah, passive aggressive.

[Jay]

Baby, I'll go with you. I'll be a dolphin, too.

[Jessica]

You gotta pick your own fucking animal.

[Jay]

I'll be a dolphin with you.

[Jessica]

No, that's really lame.

[Jay]

We can float against the ocean.

[Jessica]

You know, we'd be dolphins together.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Brandy]

That's really fucking lame, right?

[Jessica]

All right, man. I guess we'll be fucking dolphins together.

[Jay]

All right.

[Brandy]

You guys will just be fucking each other. All right? If you had to pick a third for your marriage, who would it be?

[Jessica]

You go first, because I got, like, a list lined up, buddy.

[Jay]

I don't have a clue.

[Brandy]

The neighbor?

[Jay]

Yeah, the neighbor.

[Jessica]

Which neighbor? We've acquired several over there.

[Brandy]

Oh, are they all hot? Are they all hot?

[Jessica]

Hot. Blondes only.

[Brandy]

No.

[Jessica]

I don't know.

[Jay]

They're all not hot, though. Now, we won't go that far. All the neighbors.

[Jessica]

Oh, no, not all the neighbors. Just all your hot neighbors. They're always blonde.

[Jay]

They're always hot.

[Jessica]

That's what Billy's into. Big, blonde, not big blonde.

[Brandy]

Isn't it crazy how they marry the complete opposite of what they're into? My husband loves brunettes. That's his thing. He likes little 411 brunettes. And I'm not that.

[Jessica]

I am not what? He likes petite blonde women with big asses. And I don't have an ass at all.

[Brandy]

All right, next question. Would you rather kiss your ex, Billy, or one of your neighbors?

[Jessica]

Neighbor he loves four times?

[Jay]

Yeah, definitely neighbor.

[Brandy]

Last question. Brandy, have you ever queefed on Billy?

[Jessica]

Oh, I'd say probably, yeah.

[Brandy]

Any of material where you've looked at.

[Jessica]

His face or have I? Because I've been drunk a lot.

[Jay]

No, I've been asked that question. I would have, like, a video of that.

[Jessica]

Really?

[Jay]

Yeah. No.

[Brandy]

Any. There's not one that you could remember? I farted on Jay one time when he was eating out for.

[Jessica]

I don't. But I've been drunk a lot. Like, most videos are me drunk, so I don't know.

[Jay]

I don't know.

[Brandy]

Do you only film of whenever you're drunk?

[Jessica]

No. In the first three months. Yeah, definitely.

[Jay]

First three months.

[Billy]

I love that.

[Jessica]

First three months.

[Brandy]

Biggest lush when I'm drunk. Dude, just film me. I'm Jessica Rabbit, porn star.

[Jessica]

Like, what do you. I'm the biggest fucking freak in the world. He gets me drunk. I'm like, what is this?

[Brandy]

Yeah. You're like, where do you want to stick it, Daddy?

[Jessica]

Yeah. Like, anywhere. I'm. You just tell me what you're comfortable doing here, we'll do it.

[Brandy]

Does that ever catch you off guard, Billy? Because you're just like, oh, yeah, definitely. Do you like anal? Because you're so grossed out by condiments and like that, but will you stick.

[Billy]

Your wiener in a butt?

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Okay. So we've been getting this actually, you.

[Jay]

Know, like, super pumped, you know?

[Jessica]

He said, hell, yeah.

[Jay]

Give me the anus first and waiting.

[Jessica]

Really need an anal video. Like. And I was saying it for a month, and he's like, I don't know. I just. I just don't think I can do it sober. I'm like, okay, then.

[Jay]

I don't know.

[Jessica]

Tonight's the night to get fucked up.

[Jay]

Yeah. We have to be drunk for sure.

[Jessica]

He has to be drunk?

[Brandy]

Definitely.

[Jessica]

It's kind of weird because usually the chick has to be drunk.

[Jay]

Yeah, me, definitely.

[Brandy]

Is it just because it, like, freaks you out?

[Jay]

I don't know.

[Brandy]

I'm just like, there's poop.

[Jessica]

He says he can't think about it like that. He says, why you say shit like that? Is what he says to me.

[Brandy]

I mean, listen, I had anal one time and poop balls fell in. It's really bad. You gotta make sure you clean out that little cavity. Yeah.

[Jay]

Oh, I don't have a heart attack.

[Jessica]

He doesn't fart in front of.

[Brandy]

Listen, I just had you guys do a new skit. You gotta act like you're doing anal and poop. Like, imminent poop balls in the bed.

[Jessica]

Oh, he would die.

[Jay]

I'd kick her out and blower.

[Brandy]

I love it. Well, that's the end of the questions. But we just wanted to get you guys warmed up because I see you guys online. You guys have, like, the best chemistry. Like, I really. I see a lot of couples online, but you can tell, like, who's who's real and who's not, you know? And you guys really stick to who you guys are. Like, even just seeing you guys as banter back and forth just now, that's exactly what you guys do on Tick Tock. You know, it's like, it's not fake. So I love that.

[Jessica]

No, he's an 24 7.

[Brandy]

Oh, I believe it. I believe it. Everybody thinks my husband's a big teddy bear. I'm like, no, he's a. I'm like, you guys don't know him? Like, no, I am.

[Jessica]

I'm actually. I would say I'm more the. And he's more of the.

[Brandy]

I did see him flinch when you lifted your hand, knock me out. You went like this. And he was like. I was like, damn, battered wife syndrome over there. Battered husband. But I don't know the story about you guys. Like, I don't know, like, where you came from and stuff like that. So, Brandy, let's start with you. Where did you grow up?

[Jessica]

I actually grew up in Detroit, Michigan.

[Brandy]

Oh, dope. I didn't know that.

[Jessica]

Yeah, it was about 10 minutes south of Detroit. I grew up there until I was about 12 years old. I got taken away from my mom and dad when I was three. And all my siblings. I had a lot of siblings. My mom had seven kids, so all four of us went to live with one of her sisters. She raised us the whole time.

[Brandy]

Why did you get taken away?

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[Jessica]

My dad was a drug addict. Very, very abusive. I don't remember a lot about my parents, but my older sister does, and she kind of tells me stories. People say I look just like my biological dad. Both of my parents are passed on now. My mom died of lung cancer when My daughter was 1, and my dad died of a heart attack probably six years ago. Didn't really have a relationship with my dad after he kidnapped me one summer when I was, like, I was eight years old, he picked us up and never dropped us back off.

[Brandy]

So let's rewind a little bit. You got taken from home when you were three.

[Jessica]

Yep. And placed with my mother's sister.

[Brandy]

So your aunt.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Brandy]

Okay. And then she raised you all the way up until you were eight?

[Jessica]

All the way up until I was 12. But my dad, for, like, six months, he kidnapped us, and no one knew where we were.

[Brandy]

Wow. Did they try to fight for you in court or anything like that?

[Jessica]

Or did they just. Yeah, I would say that my aunt fought, like, tried fighting a lot. But he really was gun hold about getting as many kids as he could to make more money, more child support. Not more child support. It wasn't free stamps and all that good stuff.

[Brandy]

So when dad tried to kidnap you, what happened?

[Jessica]

We didn't realize at the time that we had been kidnapped. Like, he had brainwashed us so much that we thought that he won and that we now get. We're living with dad, you know? And I remember the turning point. What. Which got us rescued was a really crazy incident. My stepsister and my sister Amanda, who is my older sister, who has special needs. I'm always like. I'm defending her. Like, you don't mess with my sister. Even though the other girls. My stepsister, I don't know her well, she starts fighting with my sister. So I'm like 8, 9 years old, and no one's doing anything about it. So apparently I grab a knife and try to go after her and tell her to get away from my sister because she was being crazy. And then her mother. So the. My stepsister's mom walked in and slapped me across the face and said, you know, you're not gonna touch my step or my daughter, whatever. And I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna call the cops on you. I love that I called the cops.

[Brandy]

Attitude now that you had back then. Yeah, I love that. And I've always been like that too. Just feisty as fuck.

[Jessica]

Yes. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm calling the cops. So I called the cops and I remember a social worker coming out and I was telling him, like, what. What was going on in the house? And I was like, yeah, we're. He makes us like, scrub the bathrooms with this bleach, like every single day. And really weird things were going on and the house was disgusting. So, like, I still have a visual memory of how nasty this place was.

[Brandy]

It was just like a really traumatic experience. Experience. More on. More trauma on top of trauma.

[Jessica]

Yes. I can still remember, like, the tree that we were standing by when the cops showed up to take us back to our parents. And, well, my aunt and my aunt's partner.

[Billy]

So hurtful.

[Jessica]

When we got back, they threw this giant party. They had no idea where we were.

[Brandy]

Did nobody went looking for you guys? Oh, yeah, they just went off the radar.

[Jessica]

He never. He would like. He's kind of like a con artist. So he would live in a place for. Until he got kicked out and then like an acquire another bill until he got kicked out of there. And then he would go to another place and just con his way through everything. He would even lie and say he was a nurse and.

[Brandy]

Wow.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Brandy]

Keep that meth shit.

[Jessica]

Yeah, he. I got a messed up finger because when I was, I guess, younger, I don't know the age, but he slammed my finger in the door and stitched it up himself.

[Brandy]

Oh.

[Jessica]

And took out the stitches. Because he truly believed in his head, I guess, that he was a nurse.

[Billy]

Brandy.

[Jay]

So he's a doctor? Yeah, he was.

[Brandy]

Oh, my God. So you guys go back to your aunts and you stay with them until you're 12?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Brandy]

And then what happens after that?

[Jessica]

I seeked a lot. Like I wasn't getting the attention I felt like I needed at all. So, I mean, my youngest sister, she was actually adopted. So I felt like my aunts. When I say aunts, it was my aunt and her partner. They got to adopt the youngest one right out of birth. So I felt like they had a super tight connection with her. Like that was their daughter and we weren't the other three kids. So because of that, like, it really pushed me away. And there was some really messed up things that happened due to, like, the favoritism that was going on there.

[Brandy]

Are we allowed to talk about it?

[Jessica]

I'm a little bit because, I mean, I've been very honest with my parents about how that traumatized me and how it's affected my entire life. If you see like, like there was no I love you. There was no holding your hand across the street. There was no. And their excuse was always that we were always afraid that you were going to get taken away from us and you would go back and live with your mom. So we didn't tell you that they loved you. Right. We didn't want to build. They always said they didn't want to get attached to us because they were afraid we would leave.

[Brandy]

It's called gaslighting.

[Jessica]

So it just. I never, like, I seek this attention. So I started getting it in negative ways because, yeah, looking back, I realized it, but not in the moment. So I started acting out at school. I started doing whatever I could to get the attention. I'm 12 years old, you know, so we always go to this family reunion in Kentucky. And when I was 12, my aunt Carolyn, she's like really? My third cousin, but everybody calls her Aunt Carolyn. She's like, you know, you should live with me. And I'm like, okay. I would live with just about anybody at that point. Like, if you said you wanted me to live with you, I would. So I was like, okay, this is cool. I'll live with you. So I moved my. I asked my Michigan parents, I call them Michigan parents in Kentucky, my Kentucky family. I was like, hey, can I move to Kentucky? They're like, yes, please move to Kentucky. You know, like, they did not give a. So I was like, okay. So I moved to Kentucky. And that first year wasn't much better than what I was experiencing in Michigan. So then I moved back to Michigan. I was like, okay, well, like, I don't know what's, what's worse of the two evils. So I moved back to Michigan and things just got like a lot worse.

[Brandy]

What happened when you did move in with the other aunt? Was it just more neglect, more trauma?

[Jessica]

It was almost like we were workhorses. We grew up a cattle farm and the more kids they had working for them, the. Like, she grew up in a family of 12 kids and on a farm like they very poor, country style living. I mean, so in her mindset, like you have kids to work.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So I don't think she meant any harm by it, but that's what we did. You work for your food, you work for your shelter. Like that's kind of why you are out here working in the fields. And we raised tobacco. I don't know if you know anything about tobacco, but tobacco work is probably the hardest work I've ever done in my entire life. It only has one Season that you're off and it's topping tobacco in the heat of the summer, and you're touching it and you're getting a buzz from it, a nicotine buzz, to stripping it at 0 degrees, weather in the barn. I was a cheerleader. I honestly played sports just so I wouldn't have to come home, because every time I did, and they were very strict. If I wasn't at a sporting event, I had to be at the house. I was never allowed to go to the movie theater. I was not allowed to leave the farm unless it was school or a sport. And I thought that was normal. I thought everybody just had strict parents.

[Brandy]

That's how I was raised, too.

[Jessica]

And that, you know, you're not allowed to do this, you're not allowed to do that. So I just. I never really realized it until I started getting older that. How weird it was.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Even when I went to college, I went to college in the same town I lived in, and they paid for my car, which was only $1,500, but they paid for it. So they use that all the time. Well, you need to work for it. You need to work for it. It's been a year. Like, what do you. Like? If I would have got a job at minimum wage, I would have already worked for this car. So it was starting to process. Like, okay, this isn't making any sense. So they would always want me to come home on the weekends to work on the farm or to mow yards. And I'm like, okay, this doesn't even make sense. So I kind of rebelled and said this. I'm out, and didn't talk to him for a couple years.

[Brandy]

And you. That's when you ended up going back to Detroit?

[Jessica]

I never actually went back there.

[Brandy]

Okay.

[Jessica]

From the time I was 14 years old, when I came back to Kentucky, I never went back.

[Brandy]

Oh, because you went back to Kentucky?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Brandy]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I went back to Kentucky because it's all.

[Brandy]

You knew.

[Jessica]

Nope. Nope. They said, hey, Brandy, we'll get you braces. Well, we'll pay for your braces if you stay in Kentucky. I was like, okay. I wanted braces so bad.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I would have pretty much done anything to have somebody get me braces. Yeah. So two years later, after being on a wait list for two years, I finally got the braces that I wanted. So, yeah, I worked my ass off. So when I say for those things.

[Jay]

Didn't you? Good job, Bradley.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I worked hard for.

[Brandy]

I can't with him. I cannot with him. Like, she's Talking about really traumatic. And he's over here.

[Jessica]

Like, this is how he knows. He probably seen a tear creeping up. So he's like, I'll break this right now.

[Brandy]

No, that's. Dude, Brandy, that is, like, so much trauma to go through as a child. Have you worked through any of that in your adult life? Have you, like, got counsel a little bit?

[Jessica]

Every time I try to do counseling, I feel like it puts me in a really dark place.

[Brandy]

Well, yeah, you have to rip the wound back.

[Jessica]

And it's like, it takes so long to, like, get through the dark place that.

[Brandy]

But you're never really getting through it.

[Jessica]

I've never actually got out on the other side.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

Yeah. I've always gave up before then because it got too hard.

[Brandy]

Yep. That was one thing I learned when I had to go through all my healing was you literally have to become friends with the darkness, because the more scared of it you are, the more it's going to hurt you again. But when you just embrace it, it literally will not consume you like it used to. Like, it becomes your ally. You're like, holy. I. I didn't realize how much I really needed to heal in here. But you'll do that whenever you're ready.

[Jessica]

Every time I'm in therapy, I get like, you know, they have to do that initial assessment. They're like, has this ever happened to you? Has this ever happened to you? And it's like, yes, all the way. All the way back down. They're like, oh, my God.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Like, I remember the last therapist told me, like, Brandy, you should be so proud of yourself. Not for this tick tock success you've had, but for literally just having a job, surviving, and being a mom that is not on drugs.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

For what you've went through, you should just be proud that you ended up on the side of not being on drugs.

[Brandy]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jessica]

You broke that cycle, and that kind of hit hard. Like, you know, I should be, like, I should be proud of where I am today instead of still allowing myself to beat myself up if I'm not at a certain level or because I went to college for four years and didn't get the degree that I went.

[Brandy]

For, you know, Amazing that you went to college. I didn't even. Right there. Oh, yeah.

[Jessica]

Only two of us in my family went to college.

[Brandy]

After all the trauma you went through, to fucking even still go to college, like, that speaks volumes of your character and, like, your work ethic and everything. You should really be proud of yourself for that you got there. You gotta Stop and fucking smell the roses. Sometimes Mimi does that with me too, because, like, I'm always like, we'll accomplish something. I'll be like, okay, what's next? Like, I don't even allow myself to be like, oh, my God, I did this. You know, it's just always like, okay, well, what's the next goal? You know? And that's trauma. You know, we just worked our asses off to forget about all the. That we went through. So it's just instilled in us to be workhorses, you know? But that's not a way to live. You've got to, like, really stop and just say, you know what, Brandy, you did a good job, and pat yourself on the back, you know?

[Jessica]

I think that's where Billy comes in, though. Yeah, he has to remind me a lot. He's like, babe, look around. Like, you did this. Like, you. You did this. Just think about where you were when you met me. Yeah, you did this. Be proud.

[Brandy]

We're gonna get into that. What we got up to. You getting to college. Let's find out where you grew up, and let's get you all the way up to where we got her.

[Jay]

Well, you don't want to hear my story. Mine just.

[Jessica]

We might not like hers.

[Brandy]

Billy, we want to hear your story.

[Jessica]

You should share it.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Story. I just growed up in Har. Kentucky. That's all it was.

[Jessica]

No.

[Jay]

Yeah, it is.

[Brandy]

You're being a bubba.

[Jay]

That's my story.

[Jessica]

You're not going to share at all what, like, what you went through as a kid?

[Jay]

I didn't go through that. My childhood was great.

[Jessica]

It was great. He did have a really good childhood. He was very wealthy.

[Brandy]

So you grew up in Kentucky?

[Jay]

Harland Kentucky.

[Brandy]

Awesome. And you have a great relationship with your parents?

[Jay]

Yes.

[Brandy]

Yeah. So how many is in your family?

[Jay]

Oh.

[Brandy]

Brothers, sisters.

[Jay]

Seven. Right, Bubbles? Yeah, there was all together, like, seven of us.

[Brandy]

Wow. Seven brothers and sisters. Or that's including mom and dad.

[Jay]

Mom and dad.

[Brandy]

Okay. Gotcha. So you guys are tight, close family?

[Jay]

Kind of close, yeah, but not really tight. But, yeah, I'm more close. My brother. I got three, like, step brothers and sisters and one just blood.

[Brandy]

Gotcha.

[Jay]

And I'm more closer to my stepbrother than I am about any of them, though.

[Brandy]

Isn't that crazy how when you can kind of, like, pick your family, that they can become closer than blood? So what was your life like growing up in Kentucky?

[Jay]

It was good.

[Jessica]

You're so shy. Like, I don't know if you're embarrassed to tell people that you had a lot of money and that you had any car you ever wanted.

[Brandy]

And that's amazing. I was people like you.

[Jessica]

So in Harlan county, like in Kentucky, these kids. I remember being a kid and like, yeah, all those Harlan county boys are living on Daddy's coal money. Like, it was a joke in my town.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Because our towns were like two hours apart, and they're both really little country towns.

[Brandy]

You guys knew of each other, but didn't know of each other.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Yeah. You come from a town and you come from money, and that's amazing. So did you just say it and then if you really don't want her to air it, just tell them.

[Jay]

I don't know the story. I don't talk about.

[Brandy]

It's okay. It's okay. We don't have to force them. So did you go to college and stuff like that? No, you didn't go to college, you just.

[Jay]

I went to Lyman School and done the electrician school, like, through college a little bit, but nothing. Yeah, I've done it for the coal mines at first, and then it all shut.

[Brandy]

Is that what your family is in, is the coal mines?

[Jay]

They was. Yeah.

[Brandy]

Okay. I didn't even know that was still a fucking thing.

[Jay]

No, it's been. I worked there for nine and a half years, I guess, in the coal mines as electrician, and then it shut down.

[Brandy]

And then you worked in the actual coal mines?

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Billy]

That's crazy.

[Jay]

How are you underground?

[Brandy]

God, that's got to be so scary.

[Jay]

Yeah. My first day was I have.

[Brandy]

I have to have windows, but if I don't have windows, I freak the out.

[Jessica]

Oh, I would freak out.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Just dark. Yeah, Dark all the time.

[Brandy]

Did you ever see anything crazy down there? No.

[Jessica]

No Weird.

[Brandy]

No ghosts?

[Jay]

No.

[Brandy]

Nobody touched your butt down there? No.

[Jay]

I loved. I enjoy.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But I'm glad I'm not there now, though.

[Brandy]

But that is a family trade, right? Okay, gotcha. So high school. Everything. Any girlfriends you want to talk about or.

[Jay]

No, this is all crazy.

[Jessica]

He was a pimp. Yeah. You had a nice car, so he was picking up ladies left and right.

[Jay]

Oh, I'm sure it was fun, but no.

[Brandy]

All right. So you didn't go off to college, Brandy. You ended up going to college. Take me to through your college years.

[Jessica]

College was fun.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I played softball for college. I had a full ride. A full scholarship for softball. I was very athletic.

[Brandy]

Are you into women?

[Jessica]

I wouldn't say that. I'm into women. Sober.

[Brandy]

Yeah. Okay, gotcha.

[Jessica]

Anytime. I'm drunk. Billy knows it. I'm like, oh, my God, she's so hot. Billy, do you think she has a nice ass? That is a nice ass, right? It is, right? Literally, I'll be like, is that a fake one? And he'll be able to tell me. Yeah. And he'll like, let me look. He's like, no. And he'll does it. What he does. I don't even know how he can fucking tell. But yeah, he'll tell me if it's real or fake.

[Brandy]

Faced. I just love bitches. I'm just like, come here.

[Jessica]

Yes. And I don't. I don't know what it is. I've been raised by lesbians my entire life. Yeah. Two different sets. I mean, how weird and random is that? But the people who raised me in Michigan, lesbians. But back in the day, that was very not talked about. When people would ask me why I live with two women, I would say they're sisters.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I mean, it was embarrassing because I. Because I would get made fun of for.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And then I moved to Kentucky and it was kind of the same thing. Like, they didn't even admit it. They still don't admit it. And I'm like, y'all live together? Yeah, my girl. And it's straight up gay. But you're not. I'm so confused.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Make sense. I think it's because she was such a Christian that she could never admit it because she'd be afraid of being thrown out of church.

[Brandy]

But yeah, college was fun.

[Jessica]

College was fun.

[Brandy]

Go ahead.

[Jay]

Can I use the restroom? Yes, I gotta pee.

[Brandy]

Yep, you can.

[Billy]

That's right there.

[Jessica]

I know. He's such a cutie. Yeah.

[Brandy]

Brandy's over here gritting her teeth. He's such a cutie. So college was great. And then when did you end up getting pregnant?

[Jessica]

So I actually. So I had a high school sweetheart. I was frickin crazy about him, super in love. I even chose the college I went to because of, you know, he went there and he was a wrestler. And I was like, oh, I'm so in love. We're going to be together forever. Yeah.

[Brandy]

He cheated a lot.

[Jessica]

Like, a whole lot. Yeah. And it was kind of like shocking and devastating all the time. We are prom king and queen. I went from being like, like voted the class clown and most athletic, most talkative, most mischievous. But when I was in Michigan, I was made fun of, bullied. It was really bad. And when I got to Kentucky, it's like I got a whole new identity. And I was this cool chick. I Was like, whoa, People like me.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

People think I'm fucking funny. This is great. And realizing that I'm not getting the attention I want from home, I just would just always try to get it in a comedy kind of way.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

So I was always like, sometimes comedy can get you in trouble. People would be like, I dare you to do. And I'm like, all right, I'll do it. So I'd always do really dumb shit to get myself in trouble in school. But never, like, smoking, not. Not drugs and alcohol, that kind of trouble. More just acting up.

[Brandy]

I did the same.

[Jessica]

Acting like a crazy.

[Brandy]

And I always got caught. Every time I did some fucked up shit, I was always the one who got caught.

[Jessica]

Yeah. And it's almost like I didn't even care because.

[Brandy]

Yeah, well, I mean, whatever. You didn't have anybody to really answer to.

[Jessica]

Yeah, well, I mean, she would be waiting with a switch when I got home if the teacher called. But, yeah, honestly, I could get whoopings all day. I didn't give a shit about the whoopings. It's like, if you. I mean, really, like, to me, it's. It's for seconds. And then it was done. So. Worth a lot of the fun I had. Where were we again?

[Brandy]

You were talking about your high school sweetheart.

[Jessica]

Oh, yeah. So then we. I went to college because of him. So we broke up. And I met my best friend. Her name's Kayla. And we became best friends because we both just went through this crazy breakup. We realized we were so much alike. She was super freaking smart, though. And she was going to be a dentist. That's what she was going to do. And I was like, okay, well, I'm going to be a school teacher, an elementary school teacher. This is our freshman year. And we started partying like rock stars. But she was a smart partier because she always had her chemistry books out and we were taking shots while I'm helping her study. I still to this day don't understand why I didn't do my own damn studying. I was always helping her.

[Brandy]

Right, you were learning by osmosis.

[Jessica]

She did become a pediatric dentist and did her thing, and we were best friends for, I would say, 15 years. And she's now in Georgia living her life. But we fell out of contact as soon as I got a divorce with my husband. So we'll rewind. And when I was hanging out with Kayla my freshman year, then I met my kid's dad. And when I met my kid's dad.

[Brandy]

I like how you don't call Him? Baby daddy.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I don't think he likes that term.

[Jay]

No.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Billy]

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[Brandy]

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[Billy]

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[Jessica]

Of respect for Billy. So I met him about. I stayed single for a year and that was about it. And then I met him and we got together. He got deployed when I got pregnant with my daughter my fourth year of college. Right When I was modeling, I started doing modeling, bikini shoots, and traveling for it. And I really, really wanted to do this. Like, at 16 years old, I wanted to be a Victoria's Secret model. Like, that was my dream. That was my goal. People made fun of me for it all the time. Like, there's no way. And from 12 up, I was like, I'm gonna be famous when I grow up. I'm gonna be famous. Like, it was just. Everybody asked me, what are you gonna be when you grow up? A Victoria's Secret model. I'm just gonna be famous. I know it.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And no.

[Brandy]

I used to tell everybody I was gonna be a video vixen or be married to a rock star.

[Jessica]

Yeah. I was like, dead freaking even. When I got my dental surgery, I had to have jaw surgery. He's like, you can skip this and we can give you a small. Get a smile of a 10, but it's going to be pain. Like, I'm going to take a 10. I'm going to be a model one day. So. My daughter was actually born when her dad was deployed to Iraq.

[Brandy]

Okay.

[Jessica]

And then. So I was 21 when I had my first kid. I got married first. I did it all by the book. And I would say our marriage ended very abruptly and quickly with, like, very little warning signs. When it got bad, it just got bad. And it got bad really quick, and boom. Okay.

[Brandy]

Initiated the divorce. You him.

[Jessica]

I think in the beginning I did, but then when he did, I was like, kind of like, oh, fuck, maybe this is for real.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I didn't think it was real. Even when we moved out into separate houses, I was like, yeah, this isn't real.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

He'll. He'll come back, right? He never did. Well, thankfully I didn't. And then I literally was like, okay, wow, I don't have anything. I don't have a car that I can afford. I don't have a job. I didn't have a job at the time because I was raising my son as a stay at home mom. I'm like, not only do I not have a job, I don't have any money. I'm. He. I'm not even on anybody's bank account now. He just cut me off the bank account. And I'm like, okay, this. This is real. This really just hit me. And I was about to be evicted from my apartment when I met Billy. So how did me and Billy meet?

[Brandy]

Yeah, are you gonna talk about how you guys know?

[Jessica]

It's funny as. Tell him, Billy, come on. Just say It. It's so funny when you tell the story.

[Brandy]

Why are you so shy?

[Billy]

I know he needs a shyness.

[Jay]

I made her own face. Well, I didn't meet her on Facebook. I seen a picture of some girl and I think she's in a bikini. Maybe, or maybe not.

[Jessica]

It's possible.

[Jay]

Like a blue one, maybe. I'm not sure.

[Brandy]

Sounds like you're pretty sure.

[Jessica]

I was rebelling.

[Jay]

And I just messaged and said, hey. That was it.

[Jessica]

Hey.

[Brandy]

And then I just as you got that swag, Billy.

[Jay]

And then she messaged back and like a big, like, story. Like, she was crazy. Like, I'm going through all this. You don't want to talk to me. I'm psycho. You know, whatever. I was like, God almighty.

[Jessica]

You were hooked.

[Brandy]

You were like, yes, My kind of girl talking.

[Jay]

Somehow I know how I don't understand it. I only know why I messaged back after. I think that I don't really know. And I don't either.

[Jessica]

It was a really psycho message that.

[Brandy]

Describes you guys personalities to a T. Like him, man of many words. Hey. And then you woman of not admit a lot of words, writes a paragraph in short.

[Jessica]

Like a short. I was like, dude, I'm crazy. I'm going through a divorce. I'm broke. I'm like about to be evicted from my apartment. I have two freaking kids. You don't want nothing to do with me. I love that though.

[Brandy]

How could you not respect that?

[Jessica]

That, like, I was so sick of.

[Jay]

Like, person should have like pushed the block button at that point. I mean, like, for real.

[Brandy]

Oh, my God.

[Jessica]

And I was like, you just want to, don't you? I mean, if that's what you want, you can just say it. Like, I'm like in that dark place. Like, I'm just like so sick of everyone just wanting to fuck. And I heard this Tinder thing and I'm like, never even dated. I had been married my whole freaking life and now trying to date at freaking 29 years old. It was totally terrible.

[Brandy]

You guys saw. You guys were married for about eight years.

[Jessica]

Yeah, we were together 10 years.

[Brandy]

Okay, gotcha.

[Jessica]

Yeah, it was a long time.

[Brandy]

Yeah. I love that though, that you were just like, word vomit.

[Jessica]

Oh, it was. He messaged me at like a really, really bad time. And I said, you can call me, but I'm not doing this Snapchat thing where you just want to text and snap because it's just not going to work. And he's like, I'll call you. What's your number?

[Jay]

Then we facetime no.

[Jessica]

Yeah, we regular. We had a phone call.

[Brandy]

Did he talk?

[Jay]

He did, yeah.

[Jessica]

He was like this kind of nervous, though. The first conversation. I'll never forget it. He says, I don't really. I don't say cuss words like you. You say a lot.

[Jay]

That was after that night, though.

[Jessica]

And you're like, I don't drink either. I'm like, he don't. He don't drink and he don't cuss. Baby, come here. That's what I need in my life right now. That was probably the most. The thing he said that turned me out. I was like, oh, my God, I just found my soulmate.

[Jay]

And going like a couple dates, and then one I canceled on her. And then once she canceled on me.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And then we finally met up at a Olive Garden. I drove two hours to go eat lunch or dinner. It was dinner, wasn't it? Yeah, dinner. And then she wouldn't get out of my car. I was like, God almighty, it's pouring to rain. We sat in the car for like, two hours after we ate. And I'm like, God, I just want to go home.

[Brandy]

You weren't trying to bang her after some breadsticks?

[Jay]

And I was trying to go home. I was trying to get out of.

[Jessica]

There he is. I even hinted like, y'all, you want to make out? Like, you want to give me a little sugar here? And he was not.

[Brandy]

She said, I even hinted. Do you want to make out? You want to give me a little sugar here?

[Jessica]

And he's got something.

[Jay]

I don't want to kiss her.

[Jessica]

He. He really.

[Brandy]

He was thinking all.

[Jessica]

He was married for 15 years. This guy was terrible.

[Brandy]

I would never know that because I couldn't get anything out of them.

[Jessica]

I'll give it to you, girl.

[Brandy]

So you were married for 15 years. Okay, to who? I. Like a high school sweetheart or.

[Jay]

No, not at high school.

[Brandy]

Okay, so this was 17.

[Jessica]

18 years old.

[Jay]

17? I'd say, yes. 17. Half.

[Brandy]

Okay. So you guys were married for a hell of a long time?

[Jay]

15 years.

[Brandy]

Did you guys have kids together?

[Jay]

Yeah, we got two.

[Brandy]

Okay, awesome.

[Jay]

So we got a. He's 18. And we got a.

[Jessica]

He was 18 when he had.

[Jay]

Oh, I was 18 when I had my first kid.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Billy]

Oh, wow.

[Brandy]

Okay.

[Jay]

We got married when I was. I just turned. But turned 19, I guess.

[Brandy]

Okay, awesome. And then. So what happened in that marriage? You guys were together for a long time.

[Jessica]

I'm gonna pee. No, I don't know.

[Jay]

You're not doing that. No, that was just. It was just. I Don't know, it just. We. I only like talking about it. I don't. We.

[Brandy]

So you guys had two kids together. You worked in a coal mine? Did she work in a coal mine, too?

[Jay]

No, she owned her own, like, gymnastics.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Brandy]

Gotcha. Gotcha. I bet she had a banging body, because all those gymnasts have banging bodies.

[Jay]

And the coal mine shut down. We moved to Florida. Was there for five years, four and a half, something like that. And then we started having problems in Florida.

[Brandy]

What were the problems? Just, like, regular marriage.

[Jay]

She just said she wasn't happy and I don't know, not enough tension, you know, whatever. I did work a little bit, but not a lot. I was home every day by 5:00, you know.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jay]

And then I knew it was having a lot of trouble at the end, before we left Florida.

[Brandy]

Gotcha.

[Jay]

Well, we owned our own business before it shut down. Whatever. And she just kept saying she wasn't happy and all this. So I told her, you know, that I'm just ready to move back home just in case something did happen. So we wouldn't be split up and the kids would be stuck in Florida, you know, there.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jay]

Want us to be at the opposite place. And so we packed up, we moved, and then I guess I was there two months. No, I would say. I'd say six weeks. I guess something.

[Brandy]

Okay.

[Jay]

And this beautiful house you bought this? This. We decided to get divorced, so I left. I lived in with my dad for several months.

[Brandy]

How long after the divorce did you send the Facebook message to Brandy?

[Jessica]

I'd say four months. Five? Six.

[Jay]

No, I'd say like eight.

[Jessica]

No.

[Jay]

You divorced? Yeah.

[Jessica]

Well, you weren't divorced, but when you split up with her, it was that summer and you didn't message me?

[Jay]

I don't remember that far back.

[Jessica]

Yeah, he doesn't have a good timeline. So you guys broke up in the summertime, and then me and you started messaging right around Thanksgiving. But we didn't go on our first date until Christmas. It was Christmas Day.

[Brandy]

All right, so let's get back to the Olive Garden conversation. You won't get the hell out of his truck. And how did you.

[Jay]

I'm just. God's funny.

[Brandy]

It gets funnier, and I can't imagine it getting funny. And so after like, two hours, she's like, come on.

[Jay]

After two hours, she finally got out. She's fine. She's whatever, you know? Bye.

[Brandy]

And then he wouldn't touch you or make out with you? This whole time I rolled, I was.

[Jessica]

Like, this dude is not into me.

[Jay]

I rode down my window and she called, give me a hug. You know, and then she, like, come in really fast and, like. Like, tongue punched my mouth. And I was like, what? And I just noticed that was his face.

[Jessica]

I literally went to kiss him. And I went, as a joke, like, because that's just who I am. Yeah. I could tell he was terrified.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I just wasn't. And he still talks about how, like, creeped. Like, creeped out he was.

[Brandy]

How you could have been that creeped out because you married her. You know, like, there was some. There had to have been something about her that you were just like, what the is wrong with this girl?

[Jay]

Crazy.

[Brandy]

Find out more.

[Jessica]

There definitely had to been, because it gets even better.

[Brandy]

Go ahead, let's hear.

[Jessica]

Oh, I just was like, dude, this. This guy's not into me.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

So I was like, you know, this ain't never gonna work. He lives two hours away. Fuck. I just get on Snapchat and I'm like. And I sent him a picture.

[Jay]

Yeah, we have Snapchat. Yeah.

[Jessica]

I'm like, you know, we're not gonna date. I tried to do it the smooth way, you know, like, the right way. Yeah, the right way.

[Jay]

Just come back.

[Jessica]

I was like, just, I'm going home. I was like, come back to my apartment. And, you know, like, I'm really now sending him some serious. He said no.

[Brandy]

Were you just scared? Were you intimidated?

[Jay]

It was just. I don't know, it just like, he was.

[Jessica]

He was.

[Jay]

I don't know, it just.

[Jessica]

He was shy. And I don't think that it had been so long since he's been with another woman that he was. He was terrified.

[Brandy]

So you hadn't dated anybody after the divorce? You were just, okay, I had friends.

[Jay]

But I never like that.

[Brandy]

Okay, so you were just like a.

[Billy]

Little fresh, little spring baby spring chicken.

[Brandy]

Just out into the world. So I'm curious as to how. When did you finally get some dick out of him? I don't know.

[Jessica]

Oh, I do.

[Jay]

Was it with Bahamas?

[Jessica]

No, no.

[Jay]

Galba.

[Jessica]

Yeah. So we didn't have our kids on Christmas. This was the first Christmas that we were going to have to be divorced. Both of us went through a divorce at the same exact time.

[Brandy]

Wow.

[Jessica]

They were both really miserable. We were both. I mean, we can be honest. Like, I was madly in love with my ex. He was madly in love with his ex. It was a very devastating breakup for both of us. He came into the relationship telling me that his ex wife hung the moon. And, like. And I think that had. I Had more respect for him.

[Brandy]

Yeah. Because he didn't talk shit.

[Jessica]

Yeah, he really did not talk shit about his ex to me. Like, he just. He actually, like, expressed how much he loved her, and that made me more attracted to him.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I expressed the same to him. And he. He always said for, like, the first year, you know, I don't want to divide a family. So, like, if you still have feelings for your ex husband, I would. I would encourage you to go back to that. Like, he really was all about it and as was I. Like, you know, we really loved each other, but we knew what family meant to both of us. Right. So that was a. Definitely important.

[Brandy]

So you guys, after the Olive Garden, you guys still kept in contact. Did you guys see each other again?

[Jessica]

Nope. Not until the Christmas day. And I ran. I was broke. I was broke, broke.

[Brandy]

Were you sending them nudes this whole time, too?

[Jessica]

I tried, but he was not taking it. He. He wasn't. He wasn't that guy.

[Brandy]

Yeah. And that's attractive.

[Jessica]

Yeah. I was like, yeah.

[Brandy]

Especially in this day and age.

[Jessica]

He didn't. He wasn't into that. Like.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

He just wanted to FaceTime me. And, man, he would just, like, be so sweet, and he wasn't cussing and he wasn't talking dirty or. It's just, like, his intentions were so pure.

[Brandy]

Right. That's how it is with J. J is the most vanilla, like, straight lace dude. And you would never think that looking at him, but I loved that about him because it was like I could just taint him, you know? Like, it was very attractive.

[Jessica]

So attractive.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

He really never even drank either. And I'm like, God, this is just. This is amazing. So we. I hinted around on a FaceTime call that we should go somewhere for Christmas so we're not miserable alone at houses, wanting to be with our families. So we went to Gatlinburg together on our second date. Spent the night in Gatlinburg for a whole weekend. I was like, this is either going to be really good or really, really bad.

[Brandy]

You're going to be chasing him around, trying to get some tongue.

[Jessica]

Yes. And I remember, I'm like, okay, he's a good guy. Brandy. Do not sleep with him. Don't sleep with him. And I was always the chick that never wanted her number to go above 10.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

Like. And I wasn't single very long, so my number really never got above 10.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

So I didn't sleep around with a lot of people, but I just knew, like, I really wanted him.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I was like, don't do it, because then he's not gonna want you. He's not gonna want you. But he came on to me.

[Brandy]

Ah, you finally did.

[Jessica]

Second day.

[Brandy]

What do you remember? Let's hear what you remember.

[Jay]

I don't even remember it.

[Jessica]

Well, that's sad.

[Jay]

No, it ain't sad. I just don't remember it.

[Jessica]

What the is that about? You do remember it. He was really nervous.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

He couldn't perform because, I mean, to be honest, he really felt. He felt guilty, like he was still doing something wrong. And when he opened up about it, I'm like, oh, my God.

[Brandy]

You're like, come here. Let me swaddle you.

[Jessica]

Yes. Come here. Yeah, he really just still wasn't ready to be with another woman. And I'm like, you know that. I respect it.

[Jay]

It's weird.

[Jessica]

And it took him a while.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So you guys.

[Brandy]

Did you guys bang that Gatlinburg trip?

[Jessica]

No. We tried, but it just.

[Jay]

You could tell I felt guilty and it felt wrong. Yeah, I just was like.

[Jessica]

He said something about this just.

[Jay]

It just might have been too soon or something. I don't know.

[Jessica]

In his mind, I think it was just too soon.

[Brandy]

Gosh, do they make them like you anymore? Billy?

[Jessica]

That's crazy. That's what I said. I started falling deeper in love with him.

[Brandy]

Yeah, that's crazy. So, okay, moving on.

[Jessica]

But he did. Then I was like, okay, so maybe he's just like a prune or something. But no, we got that elevator, and he slammed me up against the wall and started making out with me. I'm like, okay, okay, what happened?

[Brandy]

Wait, when?

[Jay]

Remember that was in.

[Jessica]

No, it was on that second date, honey.

[Brandy]

But this was in Gatlinburg?

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Brandy]

He.

[Jessica]

We got in the Margaritaville elevator and, like, the freak of Billy came out, and he just, like, took me by the neck, slammed me up against elevator wall, and just started making out.

[Brandy]

Were you drinking?

[Jessica]

No. He wasn't sober. I know. And he grabbed my booty and just, like, lifted me up. I was like, whoa. Where did he come from?

[Brandy]

And did you guys finally bang or.

[Jessica]

No, no, it just got real fun.

[Brandy]

She said, it just got real fun.

[Jessica]

I was like, okay, so he's into me. He just. He really. That story he told is genuine and true.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And then our third date was Bahamas, right? Yeah. We went to Bahamas on a cruise of her family. That was like a crap show. And it was like, oh, my gosh.

[Jessica]

It wasn't bad. Tell them why.

[Jay]

Why you thought it was so bad the first night. I believe the first night was good, I believe, but the second night, Brandy decided to get drunk, like, hammered.

[Jessica]

Well, I had a patch behind my ear, and anytime I ever drink on any type of medication, I get blackout and I go nuts.

[Brandy]

What was the patch for?

[Jessica]

Dizziness. Like, you're not supposed to drink.

[Brandy]

No, no, no.

[Jessica]

I drank three drinks, Red Bull and vodkas, and I was gone.

[Jay]

And she was on the boat, walking around everywhere naked. And I was like, oh, my gosh, what I get myself into? Because I was there with. It was nothing but women. They wouldn't. I went with. It's all girls. Her whole family. Both sides of nothing but girls.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And I was by myself, and I was like. I called my dad. Next morning, I was like, oh, my God, I need to come home, but I'm in the Bahamas, you know, I'm like, this girl's. If I could have got off the boat, I would have left, and I probably would have came back.

[Billy]

Oh, no.

[Jay]

I was just like, she's crazy. You know, she just. I was in the. I found her in the cafeteria. I was sitting there eating or not. Cafeteria, but whatever you call it, wherever you get food at. In there.

[Jessica]

Cafeteria.

[Jay]

And she come walking through, like, I was like, what the crap? And she was just.

[Jessica]

He's very conservative, so you can't.

[Brandy]

I mean, like, butthole naked or just.

[Jessica]

I had a thong, but it wasn't on. It was, like, a loose one. And it. It got wet in the hot tub. So that's what happened. I got in the hot tub. So it was more like just cutting over to the side. So it never even covered the.

[Jay]

And I was like, oh, my gosh. Get mad here. Let's go home.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Jay]

And then I finally got.

[Brandy]

Randy, you're my kind of girl. I love it.

[Jessica]

See, people don't know this. This side of me.

[Brandy]

No, I love it.

[Jessica]

They really think I'm this, like. But it's because that's how I want people. Billy's super conservative, so I can't, like, be this, like, just crazy wild.

[Brandy]

No, I think he's good for you, though. Yeah. He wrote to you, then. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So, Billy, you still ended up banging her, though, in the Bahamas, so I think so, right?

[Jay]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brandy]

So how did that go? What was it like the first night?

[Jay]

It was. I loved it, but it was just. It just. I don't know. It just felt kind of weird, I guess. I don't know. I guess.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I don't remember any sex, I guess, in the 15, you know, 15 plus years or whatever. It just. It was weird, but.

[Brandy]

Yeah, but you were like, okay, I think I could do this again. Yeah. Do you have a black eye right now?

[Jay]

Me? No.

[Jessica]

No.

[Jay]

I wrecked Razor, and it still, like, stays black up there on top.

[Brandy]

Poor thing.

[Jay]

Brandy, punch me.

[Jessica]

A lot of people really thought that when.

[Jay]

For a long time.

[Brandy]

Oh. Anytime I get worked on on my face, everybody's like, what happened to you? Like, I'm gonna be like, oh, jelly beans.

[Jay]

I mean, it smelled shut for, like, weeks.

[Brandy]

No, I. Eye injuries. I have. My eyes got blacked out in a domestic violence relationship, and they're still black and blue underneath. Like, it's crazy that when you damage your eyes, it takes forever for that to go away.

[Jay]

Yeah, it really hit me, buddy.

[Jessica]

So moving.

[Brandy]

Moving on from the Bahamas, you guys decided to make it official and become a relationship, or how did that go?

[Jay]

She found love and said she loved me, like, two weeks later.

[Brandy]

Ah. And how did you feel?

[Jessica]

I told him I don't fall in love easy.

[Brandy]

You had to love her crazy.

[Jay]

I won't tell you I love you first. And she was first one say, I love you first, right?

[Jessica]

I did, yeah. I was shocked. I was surprised that I did, though, because I love you is not something that was said to me. It's not something that was said easily. My whole Kentucky family, they hang up the phone, like, love you, babe. No, like, that freaks me out. I'm better now at saying I love you. And I make sure I tell my kids. Like, they'll be like, I know, mom, you love me, but it's not something that was ever easy to say because it wasn't never said to me.

[Brandy]

But you're breaking a lot of generational curses.

[Jessica]

Heck, yeah.

[Brandy]

Even doing that with your kids, like, that's breaking a curse that you were raised in. So it's amazing. So let's talk about this wedding. Here we go.

[Jessica]

You ready?

[Jay]

Yep. I don't remember. So now I can't talk about it.

[Brandy]

What in the happened?

[Jessica]

Okay, so the wedding day, the. The day of the wedding, we split up at about, I think, 12 o'clock, maybe 1 o'clock to go our own ways in separate cabins. So all the groomsmen go in the cabin, all the bridesmaids go into cabin.

[Brandy]

Did you propose to him?

[Jessica]

Hell, no.

[Brandy]

Okay, so you actually proposed on a cruise ship. Ah, good.

[Jessica]

Like four months, five months after being together. But we didn't get married for a couple years. Yeah, several years. We wanted to make sure, like, baby mama, baby daddy was all out of the Picture, right? All that was. And that's kind of why my speech that I gave when he walked down the aisle was so sentimental. I said, I. I told him and made a promise that I'll never walk down that aisle and give you my heart if I couldn't give you the whole thing. So I wanted to be 100 over my ex husband and not giving him any of my heart before I could promise my entire heart to Billy.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

So, like, there was a lot of meaning. And I walked down the aisle by myself because I felt like the place I got to from that point, I got there on my own, like independently. So I wanted to be the one to. My walk signified my independence of getting to where I was today. It really pissed a lot of people off that I didn't have anybody walk me down the aisle, but I also don't have a dad, so. And my wedding was very much like, I'm gonna do this the way I want to do it. It's our second weddings. This is gonna be exactly what we want, not what everybody else thinks we should have.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

It's not gonna be based on religion, although it's just not gonna be a religion. Traditional based marriage.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Billy]

Y'all know I'm all about keeping it real with you. And today I want to talk about something really personal to me. You guys have heard me talk about it on the podcast numerous times. But let's discuss Obsessive Compulsive Disorder or, as most of you know, ocd.

[Brandy]

Now, I know some people joke about.

[Billy]

Being a little ocd, but as someone who's actually living with ocd, I'll be the first to tell you, it's not a laughing matter. And it isn't just being tidy or organized. OCD is actually having disturbing, unwanted thoughts that cause you overwhelming anxiety because they. They just feel so wrong and you really don't want to be thinking about them. It's also repetitive physical or mental behaviors you do to try to make the anxiety from those thoughts go away, but that just doesn't work in the long run and they just keep coming back. The idea that OCD is only about hand washing and organization is a complete misconception. OCD can latch onto anything, but it often focuses on the things we care about most. Our relationships, religious beliefs, our hobbies and passions. In an attempt to make the distress from their unwanted thoughts go away. People with OCD will often engage in repetitive physical or mental behaviors known as compulsions. And actually, I call them my rituals, which can be incredibly time consuming and exhausting. NOCD is a virtual therapy provider for OCD that makes getting specialized therapy easier than ever. With no CD you can do live face to face video therapy with licensed therapists who specialize in OCD and be able to access always on support between sessions all in the NOCD platform. NOCD accepts many major insurance plans to help make this life changing treatment affordable and offers always on support between sessions through therapists, messaging, OCD therapy tools, peer communities, support groups and so much more. If you think you might be struggling with ocd, first of all I hate that for you because I struggle with it daily also. But just know that you're not alone. If you want to learn more about therapy with no CD, go to nocd.com and schedule a free 15 minute call with their team. That's nocd.com to learn more and book a free 15 minute call.

[Brandy]

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[Billy]

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[Brandy]

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[Billy]

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[Jessica]

So we separate. I start getting ready and.

[Brandy]

Sorry.

[Jessica]

Okay, so now we're ready to walk down the aisle. I haven't seen him since 12 or 1. 12 or 1. So I walked down the aisle, and the mo. The first. My audio message first plays before I walk down the aisle. And then when I walk down the aisle is when I have my song. Billy's already crying before I even come out. And I've never seen Billy cry. Billy does not cry. Like, he's just the tough guy. He's a country boy. He's not a crier. Yeah, I. And I told him, you better cry, like, shed just two tears, like, of emotion that I look so damn fucking hot that you just are blown away. That's the feeling I want. Want. I said, please do it. Like, can you fake it? So we even, like, made jokes. Like, everyone. Like, one guy's like, I'll punch him in the nuts. And another guy's like, I'll have a water bottle hidden and spray him in the face.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

So he'll cry. Billy was sobbing. I got halfway down the aisle, and I. Then he, like, breaks down, and I was like, I stop. I was like, oh, my God. What the Is wrong with him?

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I was like, he. He's drunk. He's got to be drunk, drunken, just sweating. And he's having a panic attack because he's so nervous. He's like. Gets really nervous in front of people. And he just kept saying that. He's like, I'm so nervous about being up there. Please don't make me say any vowels. And I didn't. He didn't have to talk. I said, you really. We'll be up there for three minutes. And he's just sobbing. So I'm like, what is going on? So I get up to the front, and I'm still just smiling, you know, pretending everything's great. And then the preacher dude starts giving the. You know, doing his job, reading a wedding. And he starts from the bottom. From the bottom of the wedding thing instead of the top and reads it backwards. And reads it backwards. And I'm. So we're starting out by doing our shots like it was a tick. We're doing tequila shots. And his was water.

[Jay]

Mine was water.

[Jessica]

We made sure that his had water in it because he.

[Jay]

I can't take a shot.

[Jessica]

He wouldn't have been able to take the shot without a chaser. So I was like. And mine was, like, this much full because I was like, you know, I just. I don't want to make weird faces, right? We're starting the ceremony with shots. I'm like, oh, what's going on?

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Then the guy that's marrying us says some weird stuff. He's like, kind of stumbling a little bit like this. He looks exactly like Billy looks. They both have this really, really red face. Just sweat. It is 93 degrees out. So I'm like, maybe they're both, like, freaking about to have a heat stroke or something. I don't know what the fuck's going on.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

And I'm just smiling away. And he says, what. What name are we using? Is it a Wiseman? The whole. Everyone's like, oh, that's my ex's name.

[Brandy]

That.

[Jessica]

That's the. The name I came from other marriage.

[Brandy]

Oh, my.

[Jessica]

So super embarrassing. And I'm like. And Billy. He's like, ingle. Like, no, it's Ingle. And he's like, oh. And he. He laughs. And then he just, like, says, engel. And I'm like, okay, what?

[Brandy]

What?

[Jessica]

That's not even in the paper. Like, what is happening?

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

And then he looks at me. He's like, what do I say next?

[Brandy]

The guy who's officially marrying us. Wow.

[Jessica]

And I'm like, I don't know. I've never done this before. Like, I've never married somebody. Yeah, you've had, like, six months to prep for this.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I put the flowers up, and I said just like, you may kiss the bride. Like, yeah, Mr. And Mrs. Engel. Like, you may kiss the bride. I think I seen that shit in the movies.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And he says it, and we kiss each other, and then that was it. It was like, two minutes, right? Because at that point, I knew something was weird. I don't know what's wrong, but something's fucking going crazy, right?

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So we walk down the aisle, and right after we get married, the wedding literally lasted two minutes. Two minutes.

[Brandy]

My kind of wedding.

[Jessica]

We walk down the aisle, and now it's time to take our pictures. So I go. My dress is huge. So I get into the air condition, and Billy's going to get into the car behind us. And, oh, first Billy is still crying, like, and I'm hugging him and stuff and trying to get him to calm down, and he's still just, like, sopping crying. Then my kids are crying, and then his kids are crying. Everybody's freaking crying. I'm like, oh, my God. What? What happened? Like, is this normal or wedding supposed to be this, like, Much of crying. Like, yeah. I mean, I get being sad or, like, happier, but I don't know what's happening. So we go to take our pictures on the top of the mountain, and Billy has this margarita in his hand. So we go. We. I'm waiting in the car, and I have three people. First come up to me, like, brandy, Billy's not doing okay. And I'm like, I know. What. Does anybody know what's going on? And they're like, no. And then a rumor. First rumor was that he took a Viagra. I'm like, a Viagra? My husband took a Viagra. There is no way. Yeah, Like, Blue Chew. Did he take a Blue Chew? Because that's what we promote. Like, but that's still not a Viagra.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And they're like, he had to. I really think so. I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe he did. And that's what it's got him feeling like. He's like, his heart is racing. He's just not acting normal. So we have a nurse who. It was a cop and a nurse that. Where we just met randomly that weekend, and we forgot the cupcakes, so we had them. They just thought we were really cool, so they. They brought them to us. So I asked the nurse. I was like, do you care to check them out before we take the pictures? And she goes, brandy, he has rate. His heart is racing. He. His blood pressure's up. Like, he just. He. I don't know. I don't know. Did he take anything? I'm like, what are we meaning? Did he take anything? Because if you're asking if he took drugs, then, no, he doesn't do drugs. Like, I can tell you that with my entire heart. He does not do drugs.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Billy didn't even drink. The guy doesn't fucking cuss. Yeah, he did start drinking where he started enjoying drinking tequila when he got with me.

[Billy]

Right?

[Jessica]

The guy can drink, though. Like, he could drink an entire fifth of tequila and be funny but be fine.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

I've seen him drink so much, so I'm like, he hasn't even had time to drink an entire fifth of tequila to be like this. So there's got to be more to this going on, right? I didn't know, though. I had no idea. So we get up to the top of the mountain. He has his margarita in his hand. And I said, God, give me a drink of that. I'm sober as Crimby, and I'm stressed. And I was like, somebody's like, oh, that's Billy's drink. I'm like, okay, give it here. Like, no, that's Billy's drink. So I'm like, okay, that's. Fuck. Somebody get me a beer then. And that's all that's going through my mind. And later on in the day, we were told that, well, Billy just kept acting weird. We started doing. We went to the reception. He's still being crazy. He's still sweating. I still don't know what's going on. People keep asking, like, so why did you go on with the wedding? Because I don't know what else to do. I don't know what's happening.

[Brandy]

All these people there.

[Jessica]

I have all these people here. I'm. I'm keeping an eye on him. I'm watching him. I don't know what's happening, but I know that something isn't right. Do I think that, like, he's been drugged? No, that's not even came into my mind yet.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

Do I think he's on drugs? I would never even. It would never cross my mind.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

So then he's just acting weird. And he got. About 8 o'clock. Our wedding wasn't supposed to be over until about 10:00. About 8:00, the wedding director person says, brandy, Billy's in the fountain sitting.

[Jay]

I remember my feet being wet, though.

[Jessica]

And my body has a memory of his, like, looking at.

[Brandy]

Everything's blacked out for me.

[Jay]

Oh, yeah, I don't remember. I just remember, like a. I don't even know what I remember anymore. I just remember sitting in the water. I remember that. And I remember, like, being behind the air conditioning unit sometime or another.

[Jessica]

I don't remember that. But there was parts where I couldn't deal with it anymore that I had to, like, send him to somebody else because I didn't. I wasn't. I was devastated. I was in tears. I was about to divorce him the next day.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I didn't know what the fuck was going on.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

So I get to the fountain. I said, billy, get out of the fountain. What are you doing? And I said, it's time to get the fuck up. Like, what the hell is happening here? He said you to you? Yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God. He has never cussed before. It was like, literally, like, my first. I'm like, oh, my God. He just said a cuss word.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And he just cussed at me.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

That's when some. It just dawned on me, like, something is bad wrong with this dude.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So really, I'm just thinking Maybe he's just got really up. And then he's got the heat on top of that. And then on top of that, it's his anxiety because he's been stressed about the wedding and being in front of people. So I get him out of there. Well, then he starts fighting with other people. And that takes. And then we leave the wedding and it gets worse and worse. But then now we're. I mean, he's fighting with everybody, and then one minute he's, like, just pouring his love out, and then the next minute he's like, fuck everybody. Fuck your family. Fuck my family. And then 30 minutes later, he's like, I love you so much. And then 30 minutes after that, he's like, bringing up his childhood pain out of nowhere. I've never even heard these stories before. Yeah, I mean, when he was, like, 7 years old, he's talking about a steak that. I mean, I never heard these stories. Like, this shit was going deep, right? And then it's like now, 2:00 in the morning, and we're still fighting, trying to get Billy to go to bed. I cannot get Billy to go to bed. He's breaking my heart. And, like, at the same time, he's just, like, melting my heart, because he would be so sweet. 30 minutes and then a split. And he was just like, your family. I'm just like, okay, what's happening?

[Brandy]

Right? You're like, oh, my God.

[Jessica]

So finally I. I said, I'm calling the cops. I need an ambulance here. Something isn't right. And two dudes are like, no, that's not necessary. You don't want to get your husband in trouble. I'm like, he's not getting in trouble. Something's wrong with him. Like, this is not normal. Like, something's got to be wrong with him. He will not go to bed drunk, Billy. You can just push him in a bed. He's gonna go to bed. Yeah, I know this guy. Like, we never are not with each other. We've never partied without each other. We've never been to a bar without each other. Like, I know this guy. They're like, no, don't. I'm like, okay, fine, I won't. I said, you deal with him, then you make sure that he doesn't fall off a fucking cliff. Because that's what I'm worried about right now.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I'm worried about. He's so gone that he's just gonna fall off a cliff. So then these two dudes are like, brandy, we need to tell you something. I'M like, all right, I'm all ears. We found a little baggie in Yalls truck. I said, okay, let's go. Let's show it to me. Let me get it. So neither one of them can produce the bag. So I'm like, okay, well, let's go fucking look in his truck. I'm not a naive bitch. I'm gonna figure this shit out.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So I ransack our truck, like top to bottom, thinking, well, Billy hasn't even drove his truck. We've had other people driving our truck today, right? And then. Then we have now another person saying that they had 10 Adderall missing out of their purse. I'm like, oh, what the heck? So first we're. They're trying to accuse. These people are trying to say that Billy's done cocaine.

[Brandy]

I'm like, well, you don't act like that on cocaine.

[Jessica]

I'm like, well, where the fuck would he get cocaine from? You know? And if he's gonna. He. People were offering him marijuana and everything before he got married. And he's like, no, no, no. So now I'm being like. People are like, convincing me that he's doing cocaine. Like, yeah, well, why would he do that? There's just no way. But I'm not going to be naive and I'll do some research and then comes to find out that there's Adderall missing. And I'm like, it's still. To me, I'm not thinking that somebody has put Adderall in his drink or has drugged him, because why would I? I mean, it's all people that we know and love.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

The next morning, finally got. He didn't go to bed till 5am next morning. He has no idea what's going on. And I haven't been able to get him separate because we're about to leave for a honeymoon in Mexico. I said, billy, do you remember anything from last night? He goes, no, not really. Why? And you could tell he was kind of like in a fog. Like, he wasn't like, sure what was going on. Almost like he didn't even know what he was doing there. Yeah, he still was kind of messed up. I said, billy, did you do drugs? He said, what? Why would you even ask me something like that? He's like, no. And I'm like, how much did you drink? He said, I. I took about three shots. I'm like, is that what you remember? He goes, yeah, I took. I remember taking three shots. And then after that, he got his first margarita that someone made him. He doesn't remember anything after that. So somebody did make him a drink.

[Brandy]

Do you guys know who drugged him?

[Jessica]

We. We don't. We. We have our suspicion.

[Billy]

Was it Adderall?

[Brandy]

It was Adderall.

[Jessica]

Yes, it was Adderall. We got drugged on our. We're just on our way, and he's still crying.

[Jay]

Oh, I cried for, like, four days straight.

[Brandy]

And how much Adderall did they pump in you?

[Jessica]

The nurse said that due to Adderall, him not having ADHD and the amount of alcohol he had, that it wouldn't get out of his system for four days.

[Brandy]

Wow.

[Jessica]

The dude really was emotional and cried for four days straight. I was having so much anxiety that I couldn't leave the country. I was already nervous about leaving the country. I canceled my honeymoon.

[Jay]

We just drove the state of Florida.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Then we just. Yeah, but he. It came back that he tested positive for. I forget what the drug comes up on a drug screen. It's letters.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

But there was two things it could have been. It was Adderall and something else I had never heard of.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

But then the next morning, we're getting friends telling us that one friend had an Adderall missing. This. Friends blaming this friend, this. Friends blaming this friend, this. Friends blaming this person. So do we know. No, we don't know who it was. Do I know what happened? Fuck yeah, I do. I know without a shadow of a doubt that Billy was drugged at our wedding, and it completely destroyed it.

[Brandy]

Ah, that is so fucked up. I can't even. That's, like, my biggest fear, too. I won't even drink, like, bottles of water that have been opened in my own studio.

[Jessica]

We are totally different.

[Brandy]

Yeah. I won't drink at a bar. Like, I don't eat this to anybody anymore. Because people really don't get. They'll drug you, and they don't even care what happens to you. Like, they don't want to fuck you or anything. They just want to inflict pain on somebody.

[Jessica]

Inflict pain. Humiliate.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I mean, we don't know the intent either. Like. Yeah, it could just been. I mean, we really want to think positive about it, that maybe the intent was more like, hey, let's just get Billy really loose. Loose and let him have a good time. I mean, kind of like that's. That's what I hope they were thinking, because. Any other reasons? Just really, really fucked up. But he was on the verge of having, like, a heart attack.

[Brandy]

No, that's what I'm saying. And they're so lucky that it Wasn't like a medical condition condition because Billy was like. It caused sort of like a manic.

[Jessica]

It's crazy mania because he was on a prescription medicine.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

So he's on a prescription now. He's drinking tequila and then on Adderall on top of the tequila and a prescription drug that he was prescribed to by a drug, a doctor. You mix those three together.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And you get a chaos. That's what it was. It was chaos. And the fact that he couldn't go to bed until five, that's not drunk. Drunks go to. They pass out. Like, girl, I've been there too many.

[Brandy]

No. I had a friend who stayed up for days on Adderall like that shit. And you start hallucinating and it's like crazy shit, you know, like if you abuse.

[Jessica]

He didn't realize where he was at times. And there were so many emotional states that it was weird. And I'm mad at him, actually, because he's saying hurtful things and I don't know that he's been drugged. I just. I'm mad, you know, I'm really upset because he's saying these up. Like, he's saying things I never heard him say.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So it took me a while to like, get over. Get over it.

[Brandy]

Yeah. I mean, that's your guys's wedding too.

[Jessica]

And he has no idea. He has no idea what he said. He has no idea what happened.

[Brandy]

Yeah. So moving on from that, when did you guys get on tick tock?

[Jessica]

2020. About April of 2020.

[Brandy]

Take me on this Tick Tock journey and how it's changed you guys lives. And then let's dive into the of too.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Jessica]

You ready? I just figured you'd have something to say.

[Brandy]

I've given up on trying to ask.

[Jessica]

Billy questions, so I got on Tick Tock during quarantine. I was a dental assistant and we got put out of work. My sister, my daughter, would not do her homework. And she's like, I don't want to do it. I'm like, okay, I got an idea. I'll do a TikTok with you if you do your homework. So I did a tick tock with her. It was fun. We posted it. She had. She did. She set my entire Tick Tock up. She was 8 years old at the time. And then I did another one with her, and it was like a way to get her to do her homework. I would do this thing that she was really into and then we would do homework.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

Then we all did one as a family, and it Was fun. And then I did one of Billy just something really stupid and it got like 5,000 views. And we're like, oh, this is so cool. Like wow. Like, who would have thought that something would get viewed that many times? Times. And then I would, I would say I got to around 75, 000 followers. And Billy thought this was the dumbest he had ever dealt with. He's like, I hope Trump bans it.

[Jay]

I go after work, he's like, there's no tick tock. I'm like, oh my God, no, I hate this.

[Jessica]

He did, he hated it. So one night I finally got him convinced to do a tick tock with me and it blew up.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

As soon as I put Billy's country accent in it and his humor, it blew up. So then he wanted to do another one and another one. And then about 20, 21, I would say we, when we started growing, we, we started growing like rapidly.

[Brandy]

How it happens. Yeah.

[Jessica]

So we, I think we went from like 300,000 to 3 million in a matter of six months. It had to be very short period of time. And I finally started realizing, so then I started studying it. It wasn't something that just we got lucky on. Then I started studying the algorithm, I started YouTubing things. I started trying to figure out what our niche was. I, I mean I was spending every waking moment at trying to figure out how to make this work. At the same time I have his ex making fun of me for being on TikTok. I have my ex being like, you're such a loser, this is so lame.

[Brandy]

And I was like, meanwhile you have 3 million people following you and they have none.

[Jessica]

And I'm like, I don't care. I'm, I'm telling you something's going to come of this. I just, I believed it in my heart. And I had so many people like just really bashing me for being on this social media platform. They'd make fun of me for this or this and I really did not care. Yeah, he would call me ignorant. People would get really upset. And then I just realized like what was working for us is conversations that real couples have. Like, let's just have them.

[Brandy]

You guys need to just literally sit down and just do exactly what you did here. Like literally. It is so funny how your guys dynamic is hilarious in person person too. Like, I wish people could see that side of you guys too. Like you guys see it in your tick tocks. But it's, you know, it's not as free flowing as it is here. And that is so funny, dude. You guys are genuinely hilarious.

[Jessica]

So what a lot of people don't realize is that they're like, oh, you guys are so fake. It's such a skit. Well, duh, dude, it's a skit. But let me explain to you on.

[Brandy]

Your real, real life personalities.

[Jessica]

So this is. I'm gonna give you an example of how we record a tick tock. So this is how it goes. Hey, Billy, we gotta do it. Come on. We gotta do a tick tock today. Let's just go with the one, the imaginary friend, that. That's the new tick tock trend that's going on that a couples are doing. So he knows that there's a camera there. He knows that we're doing the imaginary friend tick tock. I mean, obviously all these couples know.

[Brandy]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jessica]

Now do we. That's it. That's all we know. That's. That's what I'm gonna tell you.

[Brandy]

Right?

[Jessica]

So we know one line. So now I'm gonna be like over here in the backseat beating up the imaginary friend.

[Brandy]

And then everything then real, we just.

[Jay]

Go with it and just say.

[Jessica]

And the things Billy says are so funny.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And he's so funny. Like, he's witty and he doesn't even realize it. That he comes up with the craziest freaking things out of nowhere. And it is so hard for me to keep a straight face because I'm like, oh, my God, did I really just say that? Yeah. And I think people fell in love.

[Brandy]

With you guys just because you guys. Were you guys, like, one of the first tick tock couples?

[Jessica]

I think we were one of the first tick tock couples that really blew up.

[Brandy]

Yeah. I remember when you guys came on my fyp, I was like, these are funny.

[Jessica]

And then like, these recent couples, I feel like they'll go to the bottom of our page and then start doing those skits. And I'm like, oh, look, that's our skit.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And when I say sk, you don't.

[Brandy]

Get the credit for it. I wish people would credit people.

[Jessica]

We really. We really try to do that. Because a lot of these are things that I come up with on my own. Or like, yeah, we'll have a real life situation happen. So then we'll make comedy out of it. Like, just happens to be with poop a lot.

[Brandy]

Like, I love poop.

[Jessica]

I crap myself in the car. So obviously we didn't record it happening.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

But we literally just recorded how it happened.

[Brandy]

Yeah, no, that's. That's how skits are made just as.

[Jessica]

Funny because it's real. Like, that's really how grossed out he was. He literally had his head hanging out the window. I'm like, please don't smell me. Please, God, can you please. Oh, I will be so embarrassed if you smell my poop. Can you please just stick your head out the window?

[Jay]

Just.

[Jessica]

It's so real.

[Brandy]

When did of come into play? When it. Did you guys start that the same time as Tick Tock or after you guys blew up?

[Jessica]

It was way after, way after.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Brandy]

We actually did change your life.

[Jay]

You created like a year before we ever.

[Jessica]

I did create it a year before just like trying to introduce the idea to Billy. But Billy was a little jealous. Very conservative. There's no. I just really never thought he would.

[Brandy]

Go for it, right?

[Jessica]

Never thought he would go for it. We got on of in May, right around the time we got married.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

We kept it very hush hush because we had brand deals that we were working with that we didn't think would approve of it.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

So we, we kept it really on the deal. So our first. First month on OF was very low key and we, we did okay at it, but we just. That was it because we kept it so low key. The second month though, we're like, all right. I mean, cat's out of the bag now. Let's just. I mean, you're there in or you're out, you know, you can't be halfway.

[Brandy]

No, yeah, you can. Yeah.

[Jessica]

We didn't show our faces for two.

[Jay]

Months and then close to three, I would say.

[Jessica]

Yeah. And then it really took off and August, it freaking changed our lives.

[Brandy]

Yeah. No, of is crazy.

[Jessica]

It was the craziest. We just were mind blown and it's been a very hard adjustment though, like on so many levels. Like one, a money level, like going from like trying to paycheck to paycheck. And the most I had ever made was $30,000 in a year right to now, like, like being debt free. Completely debt free. I still, honest to God, still today, I still can't comprehend.

[Jay]

We still catch ourselves like, like when we go to the store, like, do we need to buy this? But no, we can, you know, but.

[Jessica]

We still, like, we are still, like, we're still scared to spend money because.

[Brandy]

I hoard money too. I'm the same way. Because it's just trauma from being so poor and not. Well, you weren't poor though.

[Jessica]

He wasn't poor. Come on.

[Brandy]

What are you shaking your head over here for saying yes, but it is. You're hoarding money because you're just never having it.

[Jessica]

Yeah. So then I feel like recently we've been. I think that's what's gave me so much anxiety is because now people are perceiving me as this different person because I am different person.

[Brandy]

You're not. It's almost like you're not allowed to grow.

[Jessica]

I'm not allowed to grow.

[Brandy]

People want you to grow. They want you to keep it real. But then once you're doing good, they. It's like they hate seeing you there.

[Jay]

The biggest hate I believe we got though, is the Lamborghini. That's the biggest.

[Brandy]

We loved it. I knew when you guys pulled up, because I have the G wagon and those motors, you can just hear them, you know. So when you guys pulled up, I was like, the Lambos hair and Haley's like, they got a Lamborghini. I was like, yeah, go look at it.

[Jay]

We get the most height for them.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

It is crazy. And the thing is, is like, if people realized that, I mean, when you're in a certain tax bracket that's such a huge tax write off that people don't like, people are like, oh, they're just wanting to show off. And actually, no, we really care. What's the most expensive, expensive car we can get to help us with this?

[Brandy]

Taxes, but who cares?

[Jessica]

And then that's, that's where my brain has. I struggle. Billy's like, brandy, you got to stop caring what people think. I'm like, I've been this way my whole life, Billy. I've always cared what people think. Yeah. I've always tried to win people over. I've always tried to be the lover. He's like, you gotta stop, Karen, you gotta stop reading those comments.

[Jay]

He'll delete them, delete them and stuff.

[Brandy]

You know the, you know the saying, you could be the right peach in the bunch and somebody's not gonna like peaches. You know, you're never going to be able to make everybody happy. All you can do is make your man happy, make yourself happy and make your kids happy. Everybody else that can go fuck themselves, like, it's so cool to feel the love that's online. But I don't think a lot of people realize that us people that are so out there, we feel tremendous amounts of love, but we also feel tremendous amounts of hate. And the hate does sometimes outweigh the love. And you, you react to the hate more because it hurts more, because you're like, wait a second, that's. You don't love me. Like, you know, and that's another trauma response is from you know, our childhoods. And you know, you can't let it get to you because these people are fucking miserable, they're deflecting and they would give a fucking toenail to be in you guys position, you know. And that's how you have to look at things. And I hate to talk bad about people, but you know, if you're gonna spew toxicity on a fucking keyboard to people who are doing way better than you than you deserve it, you know, you can't make everybody happy. And you gotta just know that those people.

[Jessica]

It's definitely been like learning that. I think people are really also just shocked to see that me and Billy have an only fans.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

They just are blown.

[Brandy]

When I heard you guys had one, I thought it was awesome.

[Billy]

I thought I was.

[Brandy]

Because a lot of people don't know I have one. You know, because on Tick Tock I have. I wear so much clothes. On Instagram it's completely different story, you know. But nobody realizes that I was a fucking Instagram thought nine years ago, you know. And that's exactly how I built my career was being naked. So when I learned that you guys fucking had an oaf, I was like, fuck yeah. They're just like us cuz me and Jay are on os. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Yeah. And they're like oh, how can you do it? You have kids. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, because my main. That I say how can we do it? Because I'll. My kids are never gonna have to experience some of the traumas.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

That I had to experience because I was poor.

[Billy]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Brandy]

And just because you're. What you do in your spare time doesn't is not about your kids.

[Jessica]

And it's not a reflection of what type of mother I am at all. Some of the best mother.

[Brandy]

Some of the best women I know are sex workers. You know, like some of the best, like literally the coolest humans in the world that I've ever met are involved in the sex industry. And it's because we've been through we trauma. We just know what we want to be in life and what we don't want to be. We had tons of examples of what we didn't want to be like. And we're just here breaking fucking generational curses, you know. I think that's a beautiful thing. I don't think there's anything wrong with it at all.

[Jessica]

I think the reason we blew up on of though is because of that. Because people were shocked conservative more because that's the image that we've built. Like, the more I don't even cuss on Tick Tock.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Billy doesn't want me to. So, like, I say F word like, every other me too sentence. So I don't really cuss on Tick Tock. So I think a lot of people were shocked. I. And the three times I put anything semi provocative on Tick Tock, like, people really come after me.

[Brandy]

Oh, when you were twerking that one time, I think you were, like, wearing a unicorn suit and you were twerking. People were coming for you. I was like, she's in a unicorn suit and there's girls with, like, butthole meat in the camera on Tick Tock. Like, it's just crazy.

[Jessica]

I mean, I. I can do in a humorous way and still like it. Really. I'm like, okay. They just. It's always going to be something, no matter what. But we've really embraced the fact that we're on Only Fans and we stopped caring about what people actually thought about us being on there. And that's been a game changer. We're just more open to it now.

[Brandy]

Well, what's. What do you guys have in store for 2023?

[Jessica]

Yeah, Billy, what do we have store?

[Jay]

I don't know.

[Jessica]

Bless his little horse.

[Jay]

Dude, what you got in store? 2023? I'm with you. I'll follow you. Tell him what we want to do.

[Jessica]

See, he acts like that, but really, that's not the Billy. Billy will tell me like, all right, this is. He's more of the leader.

[Brandy]

Absolutely.

[Jessica]

Financially, he's the leader too.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Yeah. I don't even talk to our financial advisor anymore. Since we got married, this guy's just like. He takes care of it.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So that's really cute. But what we would like to do is honestly start a business.

[Brandy]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

We're not sure yet what that business is, whether it's going to be owning a bunch of houseboats and renting them out. But we want to be able to make a living off something completely away from relying on social media.

[Brandy]

Absolutely. I wanted to start a jet ski business. This for the longest. Yeah.

[Jay]

So I buy rental properties in Florida.

[Jessica]

Yeah, that's our love.

[Jay]

Do that.

[Brandy]

Yeah, I love that. Anything else besides, you know, just building a business and just living and loving. You guys haven't been posting as much. A lot of people, whenever I told them you were coming on. On Live Today, were like, ask them why they're not posting as much as they used to.

[Jay]

Yeah, we didn't. We Took, let's say a few weeks.

[Jessica]

So one was because it was around Christmas time. And we really do value the time that we have with our kids. A lot of the times I have my kids every other week. So on the weeks I do not have my kids, I'll bust out a bunch of tick tocks. So then when I do have my kids, I don't really. I can still post, but I'm not actually doing them when I have kids because I promised my kids that when I got to a certain point, okay, I'm gonna stop doing this so it doesn't affect the time I have with you guys.

[Brandy]

Right.

[Jessica]

Also, I think I got in a really dark place there for a little bit emotionally.

[Billy]

Do you battle depression?

[Jessica]

Yeah, especially seasonal depression. And the hate that I was getting for having an of started getting to me. And then people were just like, all of us. I don't know if I was starting to read into the comments more or if they were just getting meaner. And I still don't know if people are. I think, I think I was getting in my own head because I'm an overthinker and my anxiety was getting to me and I just was allowing it to tear me down. So I could not actually get on Tick Tock because I was scared. And now that I have been posting.

[Brandy]

Like my views or it's not you guys, it's every. The Tick Tock's messing with the algorithms again and everybody's Lizzo. It had like fucking 20,000 views on a video.

[Jessica]

Me too.

[Brandy]

Had been up.

[Jessica]

That's never happen.

[Brandy]

Yeah, no, it's not. You, it, the platform, they're with us. I've just been going live like crazy. I never do that. And it's been helping.

[Jay]

But we went live twice, I guess in the past week, posting at night a lot.

[Brandy]

But we just like eight or nine at night is way better than posting during the day. I can't even post during the day and get views anymore. My backup account, I just post whatever, but my main account, I have to post at like 9:00 at night just to even get views anymore.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I think also like, with my like mental state, my views affect my mood.

[Brandy]

Oh yeah.

[Jessica]

And because it affects everything across the board. Like, I. And this is my own freaking issues. But, like, I need to get out of that. Like, so I've really been worried and he knows it. I'm like, maybe people really just don't like us anymore.

[Brandy]

Oh, stop it. There's new people that are finding you every day. You Know like, yes, you don't have to.

[Jessica]

And I'm like, maybe it's just because you're not funny anymore, Billy. Like, I'll say that to him. I'm like, it's because you don't try anymore. You hate Tick tock, don't you?

[Brandy]

Oh.

[Jessica]

And he's like, God, I'm out of here we go like every other day thing, right? Yeah. So the last, like, I would say month has been really emotionally hard on me.

[Brandy]

Oh. Sometimes you need to take a break, though, and just step back because it's social media.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Brandy]

We've built, you know, a huge business, all of us, on social media, but you can't let it affect you mentally like that because you have to realize that aside from that, you are a human with a heart that beats and it doesn't matter what goes on on there. It matters what goes on right here, you know, and that shit just. It's a phase. There's going to be another platform that we're going to fucking take over after TikTok. You know, it went from MySpace to fucking Facebook to Instagram.

[Jessica]

My face.

[Jay]

That's what I call it. My face. I never.

[Brandy]

Yeah, my. You know, but that's what I'm saying. Like, you can't. Don't let it get to you because there's gonna be another fucking platform that we're gonna take over and it's gonna. It goes like this. It's a roller coaster. Not everything. If everything was always up here, we wouldn't appreciate when we're down here. You know what I'm saying? It's a roller coaster and you just got to ride the waves, literally, that it's just fucking social media, so don't let it hurt you like that.

[Jessica]

Yeah, this guy, he's the support, though. Like, he's always like, oh, I love that. Like, he really is more loving than he lets on. Like.

[Brandy]

No, I can, I can read right through him.

[Jessica]

Like, it's.

[Brandy]

Baby, I was a hooker for 15 years. I can read men like a motherfucker. Trust me, I see right through him.

[Jessica]

Just the way he looks at me. A lot of people have been pointing out in the videos that I've been doing because I actually opened up a little bit about how I've. People are like, we don't see you anymore. And I opened up that I'm struggling with seasonal depression and when the sun is not out, I cannot. Like, I have a hard time being happy. But this guy over here just, he knows when I. We went to Disney because he Knew, like, I needed to get out of the house. I needed to do something that would make me happy. We planted in 24 hours and we freaking took the kids out of school and we just left.

[Jay]

You took the kids out of school for a whole week and we just jumped on a plane.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Brandy]

And then you needed that. You know, you needed that.

[Jessica]

Yeah, it really has helped. So he always knows. And that the fact that he can read me and know it's everything, baby.

[Brandy]

That's a good partner. Well, I appreciate you guys coming here. Why don't you guys shout out your socials where everybody can find you and your OS and your o F. So everybody, I'm about to go.

[Jessica]

Billy, we ain't wanting the neighbor to come over, okay? We just moved. Let's not try to get her over the house too soon, you know, let's at least make her fight for it. TikTok, of course, is Brandy underscore Billy. Our Facebook, we actually have been really growing recently. Is Brandy underscore Billy. Not any other name besides Brandy underscore Billy. Our Instagram is Brandy underscore underscore billy. So everything else is fake.

[Brandy]

Gotcha.

[Jessica]

Which is a lot of fake. And what about of Brandy Billy?

[Brandy]

Brandy.

[Jessica]

Brandy Billy. Yep.

[Brandy]

Thank you guys for coming on the podcast. It was really good getting to know you guys. I didn't even know how the stuff you guys told me.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I don't now.

[Jay]

You know. She's crazy.

[Brandy]

Thank you guys for coming on the podcast. I really appreciate it.

[Jessica]

You're so welcome.

[Jay]

Thank you.

[Brandy]

Thank you guys. Thank you. And thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Dumb blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye. You snored the whole time, buddy. God, sound like a freaking motorboat. What's up, guys?

[Billy]

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[Brandy]

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[Billy]

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