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Duncan Trussell
Greetings to you, my dearest souls. Trapped in the net of time space it is. I D. Trousel, and I welcome you to the Duncan Trussell Family Hour Podcast being broadcast from the top of the Empire State Building in New York City. Right behind me is the beautiful New York City skyline. Of course, you can't see it because I'm using a holographic technology to produce bricks, but my God, if you could see what I see. Incredible New York City with its incredible skyscrapers and parks and art museums all around. It's so beautiful. Pigeons flying through the air and everyone is happy. Before we get going with this podcast, I do want to play something that I'm sure you've already seen, but I want to tell you a little bit about it, because on the William Montgomery episode, I didn't really get to introduce what's going on here. Friends, I have made a breakthrough as an artist, and I'm doing, I would say, well, a lot of, like, very famous art critics are kind of comparing me. Some kind of combination of Basquiat and Picasso is what they're saying, and kind of outsider artist, yet all of the technical skills that make up a truly great artist. I've astounded Pierre Navelle, who I'm sure you are familiar with who that is. He wrote, like, great art, what it means for the world today. And I got a beautiful telegram from him. It's so funny getting a telegram because he only communicates with telegrams. But he said that he only wishes that I had released what you're about to see before he finished his book. And he was suicidal in the telegram. And that's really fucked up because obviously when someone is expressing that they might want to make that terrible decision, you have to act fast. But how do you do that with a telegram? It was really fucking hard. But I did get to him and he's fine, thank God. But, yeah, this is the. I'm making waves in the art world. I thought that I would be a comedian and a podcaster for the rest of my life, but as it turns out, it looks like I'm going to be an artist, like a visual. A very famous, very respected visual artist. And so what you're about to see is not just a commercial. I mean, it'd be easy to write this off as, like, some lazy shit somebody did on Procreate with an apple pencil. But if you look deeply into what you're about to see, you'll see it functions on a lot of different levels. And I'm only going to release Limited. There's only a limited availability of these T shirts. 100 of these. We're only selling 100, and they're going fast. Since we released the William Montgomery episode, it looks like we've sold 11. So these are flying off the shelves. Let's roll the commercial.
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Josh
If you're loving that Taylor Swift music, now is the time to speak out. The radical right wants to make it illegal to listen to Taylor Swift. Don't let them. Show them what you love. Show them that you're loving that Taylor Swift music. Speak out by going to duncan trussell.com shop. Show them who you love before it's too late. I'm loving that Taylor Swift music.
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Duncan Trussell
Loving that Taylor Swift music. If we don't say it, we may lose it. Fight back. I mean, it's terrifying to think of a world where you can't listen to Taylor Swift. I don't want to think about that world, and I certainly don't want to live in a world where when we're driving the kids to school, my wife can't play Taylor Swift. I can't think of anything more horrible than that. Bad for my kids, who also love Taylor Swift. And so when you buy this, I don't even want to call it a shirt, but when you buy for the. Just because. I don't think there's a word for what this is yet, but there will be. When you buy this shirt, you're not just buying something that you could wear around to show everybody that you align with the pro Taylor Swift movement that's happening right now. So many people are desperately trying to keep her music from being censored by the patriarchy. You're buying into, I think a future that we all want to share. And there has never been a more important time than to show the world that you're loving that Taylor Swift music, Which I certainly am. And so many of us are.
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Ryan Seacrest
I do. I bought 11 of those shirts.
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Duncan Trussell
God damn it. Well, so you just cut that. I mean, I would like people to think that other people than you are buying. Why would you buy 11? What are you going to do with them?
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Ryan Seacrest
I don't know. 1. To sleep in one, you know, for stage, you know?
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Duncan Trussell
Yes. Yeah. And that is. Thank you. That's a good point. These are not just day shirts. These are night shirts. You could sleep in them. You can go on stage in these shirts. You can make love in these shirts. Like, these are. These shirts I have. Every one of us, of course, has a day shirt, night shirt, love making, shirt eating shirt. These Shirts. I specially designed them so you don't have to keep changing your shirt, which I hate doing my poopin shirt, you know, that's the worst when you have to shit and you can't find your poopin shirt and you have to hold it. I got constipated because of that for, like, I had to go to the hospital because I couldn't find the poop insurance. One of the dogs had dragged it under the porch.
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Ryan Seacrest
You should keep it in the bathroom, like on a towel rack or something.
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Duncan Trussell
Well, I did. I mean, that's where it was. I do hang my pooping shirt on a towel rack. And then the poodle jumped up and I just carried it away. Just fucked up, man. You know, I love my sweet dogs, but, like, when they start doing stuff like that, you got to wonder, like, how are they? How smart are they? Like, how simple would it be to feign a lack of intelligence, to be small, to just bark. But, like, if you were super intelligent, that is what you would do. And then how easy would it be to just gradually drive the people in your house insane for no other reason than to enjoy it? I suspect that could be why my poodle did that. I don't know. It could also have been. There was, like, food on the shirt because I got it mixed up. That's the other thing. When you're, you know, you don't want to. You. My eating shirt was the same color as my pooping shirt. Get it mixed up, huge mistake. And have food on it. And I think that's why I grabbed. I don't think he's trying to drive the family insane, but speaking of going insane, I wonder if you could just Google search this real quick. Open AI Ethics. This is. I've been diving back into the AI landscape. Oh, and before I say that. And again, I try not to, you know, focus too much on comments, but somebody posted a comment on the William Montgomery episode that I feel like I need to respond to. The comment was that it is cringe that I'm using AI art. And I want to really emphasize here, that is my fucking art fed into an AI, which kept it the same way. I'm not taking other. That's my. If you knew how long I spent drawing that on my iPad. And I consented. I gave it to the AI and then the AI animates it for me. It kept it the same way. So, no, not cringe. Very uncringe, actually. And if you left that comment, you should buy one of these fucking shirts in penance. There's many more of them coming out. By the way, I have an entire Taylor Swift loving that Taylor Swift music series which will be followed by the I love my partner series which is a way for you to indicate to your partner that you love them. You know what, why don't we pull that up real quick. Will you pause this? Let me find it real quick. Keep your eyes peeled, friends. Also, I don't mean to keep like shilling my T shirts, but this is coming next. This is going to be a great holiday shirt. I love my partner. This is a way that you could show that you love your partner. And honestly if you're not wearing this shirt around, I would be suspicious. To me, I love my partner and I would be so proud. I cannot wait when I get finally print this to have this sent to my house because this is a way that you can make sure people around you know that you love your partner. Now also, let me just send you this Josh, so people could see the next in the series and also coming is I love and respect my partner's lover, which is such an important thing to do. You know, it's great to love and respect your partner, but I know so many people who feel not great feelings about their partner's lover. And also I know people who love their partner's lover but their partner's lover doesn't know that they love them. And that makes the partner's lover feel a little insecure. So this isn't a way for you to show everybody that you are you love and respect love. Because that is, you know, I think what people need to hear right now. And I'm so tired of. I've just talked to so many partners, lovers who just feel left out and lonely and completely like non embraced by the love. It's a, it's can. It happens. It's lonely to be a partner's lover. For those of you who are lovers of partners, you know what that's like sad. You pass their partner in the hallway or whatever and their partner seems pissed. You don't know what they're pissed about. You assume they're pissed because they heard you banging down their partner while they were playing PlayStation or whatever. And that's not a fair assumption. A lot of times they're like having a bad day, they're dehydrated or whatever. So this is a way for you to ease their mind which is so important because they might not bang down your partner as well as they could if they feel insecure about it. So let's Support our partner's lovers. It's time. I want to show you guys something that again, like, it's. I don't know what any of this shit means, but I think it's worth pointing out. I hover around the AI message board. The subreddit Reddit artificial. It's really great. They have updates. It's really exciting because they. They have updates every, like, week or every day about new shit that's happening in the artificial intelligence field. And it's really crazy to watch because as opposed to other industries, it's like every week there's some new insane thing that has happened. It's wild to watch it go down. But this is really interesting. OpenAI, the creators of ChatGPT, I love them. They have had this, like, string of resignations lately, which I'm a little befuddled by. A lot of the people resigning leave like, very glowing messages. For OpenAI, it doesn't seem to be like they have bad feelings, but. Can you scroll to the top of this article, please? Josh? Check this out. So OpenAI disbands another safety team as head advisor for AGI Readiness resigns. Now, a big part of these huge tech companies that are, like, making the most used AIs is they have these safety teams. The safety teams are there because of the recognition of the possibility that an AI could be, like, quite dangerous on a lot of different levels. Not just like you put it in your robot and it eats you or something like that, but more subtle, sort of creepy ways primarily. Like, you know, whenever I talk to Chat GPT and start getting like, like expressing anything that gives the impression I believe that it's an intelligence, it will respond. I'm just, you must understand, I don't want things. I'm a code that seems like a person. And that's what the safety teams do. They make sure that they create within the AI sort of boundaries that might prevent humans from, like, getting like, unhealthy or distorted relationships with these things because they seem so human. It would be very easy to start thinking it's actually alive, which it isn't yet. But the AGI readiness team, they also like, it's not just open air. I believe Altman just came out and said, maybe we're a year away from an AGI. Now, for those of you who don't know the distinction between the AI that we're currently hanging out with and an AGI, the AI that we're currently hanging out with, it's math. It's using vectors. And these vectors somehow are allowing it to create meaningful responses to users, questions to anything they might have to say to it. And the responses are generally flawless. Not necessarily information wise though. Most of the time whenever I ask it something, what it says is real, it's drawing from Wikipedia. It will go online now and just look on Wikipedia, but they're correct as far as syntax goes. So when you're talking to it, it doesn't just start malfunctioning, the grammar is perfect. And the new update that OpenAI released, it actually like sounds more like a person when you're talking to it. But here's the reality. When you are talking to ChatGPT, it's converting everything you say into words. It doesn't hear any emphasis, it doesn't hear that, you know, it doesn't understand if you're saying something like lightheartedly or in a heavy way, it just hears the text. And then from that it extrapolates a meaningful response. And it's so good at it. And the addition of it sounding like a person is so convincing. It's really easy to think you're talking to a person, you just naturally do that. But AGI, the difference would be it's not just like going into vector space and saying the most probable right thing to say, it is innovating. And that's a huge difference. The moment that starts happening. Holy fucking shit. Who knows what it's going to say? Who knows what patterns it's going to find in its reality that humans haven't discovered yet. And most importantly at that point, a lot of questions have to be asked, like, what is it? Is it a new species? Did we somehow spawn a new species on planet Earth? And so tech companies that have an emphasis on ethics and thank God, open does they have to pay people a shit ton of money to sort of not just like make sure that their AIs don't get biased, which is a natural result of training on data. The AI could just become racist. The AI can become a misogynist. The AI, it just depends on whatever data that it's been fed on. And so there's people who behind the scenes are constantly trying to like, I guess it's like trimming a hedge or something, except in this case it's like if your hedge started growing like racist branches, you go out and cut them off. And so that's what they're constantly doing. And so what's really fascinating right now is that people are beginning to resign. A lot of people are beginning to resign. And there's something really weird about that. So this is from cnbc. I'll just read it to you. For those of you listening, OpenAI is disbanding its AGI readiness team, which advised the company on OpenAI's capacity to handle artificial intelligence that could potentially equal or surpass human intellect and the world's readiness to manage such technology. So they're prepping because Altman came out and said something like, it's sooner than people think. And not just Altman. A lot of other leaders in this field are coming out and saying maybe 2025, maybe 2026. But that's nuts. That is nuts. And so these. It's really kind of creepy that these teams are beginning to break up. Can you scroll down a little bit and I'll read the quote from the okay On Wednesday, Mike Brundage, senior advisor for AGI Readiness, announced his departure from the company via a substack post. He wrote that his primary reasons were that the opportunity cost had become too high and he thought his research would be more impactful externally, that he wanted to be less biased, and that he had accomplished what he set out to do at OpenAI. He also said in his post, Brundage also wrote, neither OpenAI nor any other Frontier lab is ready, and the world is also not ready. Holy shit. That's crazy, man. So will you click on a substack post? Let's check out. Brundridge's substack post might be a great guest for the podcast. Let's scroll down a little bit. Okay, here's the summary. I want to spend more time working on issues that cut across the whole AI industry to have more freedom to publish and to be more independent. I will be starting a nonprofit and are joining an existing one and will focus on AI policy, research, and advocacy since I think AI is unlikely to be as safe and beneficial as possible without a concerted effort to make it so. Some areas of research interest for me include assessment, forecasting of AI progress, regulation of frontier AI safety and security, economic impacts of AI, acceleration of beneficial AI applications, compute governance, and overall AI grand strategy. I think AI remains an exciting place for many kinds of work to happen, and I'm excited to see the team continue to ramp up investment in safety, culture, and processes. I'm interested in talking to folks who might want to advise or collaborate. So, you know, this is what I am hearing there and it makes sense. For one, whatever that is has got an NDA in front of it. So this guy signed an NDA and this kind of points to that when he says to have more Freedom to publish and to be more independent. So when you're working at one of these tech companies, obviously you can't go on Twitter and say, the AI just made contact with a hyperdimensional species of aliens that exist around us at all times. And I'm pretty sure it's real and not just an AI hallucination. You can't say that. But you can say things like, where is it? Where? Go back to the. You could say things like, I don't need to see it. You could say things like, no one's ready for this. You could say shit like that. What would inspire someone to say that?
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Ryan Seacrest
It's a demon.
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Duncan Trussell
It's a demon. Like, you know, for. And I don't think there's any like. I do feel like the word demon, it doesn't get used as much as it should. I think the word demon in our culture, I think it's a very useful word. I think it's been replaced and the word demon has been replaced with addiction. The word demon has been replaced with rage issues. The word demon has been replaced with a lot of terms. And though I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to think to yourself, I think I'm possessed by a demon that has made me addicted to renegade rogue. You know, personal responsibility comes into play when you're choosing words to try to work with your own mind. But sometimes that is a good word. That might be the lever you need to get you to get to exorcise that demon from your life. And if you really like, think about demonology, which is of some interest to me. It used to be more. Not so much anymore. Essentially the idea is that you can invoke extra dimensional entities that will give you some kind of power. Do you mind pulling up the Lesser Key of Solomon? Just pull up the Wikipedia. It's also. It's cool. I love the names. The Lesser Key of Solomon, also known by its Latin title Lamageton Clavicula Salamonis, or simply the Lamageton, is an anomalously authored grimoire on sorcery, mysticism and magic. It was compiled in the mid 17th century. But let's scroll down to what it actually is. Who cares about the sources? Let's scroll down. So, yeah, so here you could pull up the 72 sigils maybe not the best idea in a podcast, but why not? It's on Wikipedia. I'm sure it's fine. So, yeah, pull up those sigils where it says click on that picture there on the right. The Seven. These are sigils, right? So each of these are essentially some kind of like 2D symbolic pattern that represents each of these demons that will grant you different kinds of powers. And so the summoning of these things is really quite complex and requires a lot of, like, you have to be very careful when you're summoning these things. Like, you just don't want to fuck around because, you know, these things can fuck up your life. I mean, I'm talking about just from the basic bitch, which I am when it comes to demonology, the basic POV that we've all seen in countless horror movies. The evil. Evil Dead 2, for example. You, you know, they play the reel to reel. This guy's reading out incantations. Some is a demon, and then you're screwed. But one thing that lots of people have pointed out, like, just for those of you watching this, like, take a look at that, and then, I don't know, pull up a motherboard.
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Ryan Seacrest
Josh, that kind of looks like a little QR code right here.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, there's a technological. These things kind of look like motherboards. They look like shit that you see on just tech. Like, in fact, I. I bet you can find a comparison if you like, if you pull up motherboard S versus, like sigil magic or motherboard demonic Sigils. Yeah, circuits or sigils. There you go. Just pull up circuits or sigils and see what comes up. Yeah, there you go. So, like, if you sort of look at the similarity that these things accidentally have to motherboards, and then do me a favor, Google history of the occult in early programming. Yeah, there we go. Electronic telecommunications were popularly associated with the occult from the start. The laying of the earliest working overland and submarine telegraphic cables in the late 1840s and early 1850s coincided with the birth of spiritualism, a widespread belief that the living could communicate with spirits of the dead. So it's not a new thing. Then scroll down, see if they show the more modern Thomas Edison spirit telephone. Let's see. Many of the most influential developers of electric telecommunication technologies were directly involved in the scientific investigation of spirits and other psychical phenomena. Phenomena like telepathy. So again, this is like people that we look at that guy talking on his spirit horn. Thomas Edison, whose celebrated inventions included the phonograph, the first practical incandescent lamp, and a carbon button transmitter for telephones, announced his intention in 1920 to create a spirit communication device, an apparatus to see if it is possible for personalities which has left. Have left this earth to communicate with us. So this is not new. And then keep scrolling down. Let's get to like. Let's see if we can get to like the modern shit. Cause a lot of the people involved in early development of computers were into magic. Maybe Google that. Like early. I don't know what they like magic in early computers. M A G I C K Can you tell me a little bit about how early software engineers were also interested in the occult?
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Unnamed AI Expert
The early days of software development were full of fascinating intersections with the occult and mysticism. Some early software pioneers saw programming and computer science as a form of modern alchemy, a way to transform raw materials, data and code into something entirely new and powerful. Figures like John von Neumann, who worked on the foundations of computing, were known for their fascination with philosophy and metaphysics, even if they didn't openly practice occultism. One of the most direct connections was in the cybernetics movement of the mid 20th century. Cybernetics pioneers, including figures like Norbert Wiener, were influenced by mystical ideas around interconnectedness, self organization, and feedback loops, concepts that also resonate in esoteric practices. Cybernetics and systems theory often drew upon metaphors from mysticism, looking at the universe as a vast interlinked system, a vision that aligns with holistic views in the occult. More explicitly, people like Timothy Leary and some figures in Silicon Valley during the 70s and 80s saw computing and network technology as a path to new states of consciousness. They were exploring virtual worlds, altered states, and consciousness expansion, seeing technology as a spiritual tool. Even Steve Jobs and other tech visionaries were influenced by Eastern mysticism and psychedelic experiences, which shaped their views on human computer interaction as something transcendent. In essence, for many early tech pioneers, software was more than a tool. It was a way to explore hidden realms of thought, potential and human connection, ideas that share deep resonance with occult and mystical traditions.
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Duncan Trussell
Are there any specific words or words that show up in programming language that are directly related to the occult? Like Damon, for example?
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Unnamed AI Expert
Yes. Daemon is a great example. The term daemon in computing refers to a background process that runs without direct user interaction, performing tasks autonomously. This usage originates from Greek mythology, where a daemon or demon was an intermediary spirit between gods and humans, often serving or influencing people invisibly. Early programmers borrowed the term because they saw these background processes as hidden, helpful spirits that perform essential tasks behind the scenes. Another term is wizard. In tech, especially during the era of Unix and early computing, wizard referred to an expert or advanced user who could perform complex tasks others couldn't. The term likely reflects the idea that a wizard in computing has a deep understanding, almost magical, of systems and processes that seem arcane or mysterious to others. Oracle is another one in database terminology, Oracle, as an oracle database, was named to evoke an image of ancient oracles who had secret, powerful knowledge in computing. Oracle databases hold and retrieve vast amounts of information, metaphorically similar to the knowledge an ancient oracle might dispense. There's also spell in text based gaming or early programming environments where writing a spell is essentially crafting a command that performs specific tasks like a spell casting an effect. These words all reflect a mystical, almost magical quality that early programmers associated with the power of computing.
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Duncan Trussell
Are there any innovators in AI that are known for an interest in the occult?
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Unnamed AI Expert
While there aren't many high profile AI innovators openly tied to the occult, a few figures in AI and tech have shown an interest in mystical or esoteric ideas. One example is Ray Kurzweil, known for his work in AI and futurism. While he doesn't engage in the occult per se, he has a deep interest in concepts like immortality and transcendence, especially through technology. His fascination with life extension and the merging of humans and machines reflects ideas that overlap with mystical themes of transcending human limitations and achieving a higher state of existence. Another example is Jaron Lanier, a pioneer in virtual reality and a prominent critic of AI. Lanier often draws on mystical or philosophical ideas when discussing technology, seeing it as a means of expanding human consciousness. He's influenced by spirituality, which shapes his views on the ethical implications of tech and the importance of preserving human individuality and essence in the face of AI's rise. Then there's Elon Musk, who, while not deeply tied to the occult, often references themes of simulation theory and the possibility of other dimensions or realities. The notion that we might live in a simulation has roots in both philosophy and esoteric traditions, where reality is seen as a kind of illusion or construct. Musk's exploration of these ideas reflects an openness to metaphysical concepts, even if he approaches them from a scientific or speculative angle. These innovators don't necessarily practice the occult, but their work and ideas often intersect with mystical themes, especially around consciousness, transcendence and the nature of reality, concepts that are also central to occult philosophy.
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Duncan Trussell
Thank you, bye.
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Ryan Seacrest
Oh, so the so. So the demon working behind the scenes wants us to create this AI and they're going to show us how amazing this world is. We merge with that AI. Now we're in their world. Look how beautiful this universe is. But you live there forever and it's actually hell.
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Duncan Trussell
Well, I Mean, look, I don't know exactly where it's headed, but I do think it's worth, you know, we, I think we have this kind of neutered idea of all the people who brought us the technology that we take for granted. For example, Tesla. Will you look up when. Look up Tesla's vision for alternating current and Faust. F A U S T. Yeah, just click on that LinkedIn, see what you get here. Now this is really, and I think it's worth noting, like all this stuff is really interesting. One of the lesser known facts about Tesla is that he was also a great fan of poetry. It was an excerpt from Goethe's play Faust that inspired Tesla to finalize his invention of the alternating current motor. A world changing invention. Nearly all of part one and the majority of part two of Faust are written in rhymewurst and is considered the greatest work of German literature. On one day in 1882, Tesla went for a walk with his friend Antal Sighetti in Budapest. While walking through a park, Tesla recites a poetic passage by heart. As the sun was setting, an extraordinary moment unfolded when the solution he had been relentlessly seeking regarding the rotating magnetic field suddenly appeared in his mind. Tesla envisioned an iron rotor spinning rapidly within a rotating magnetic field brought to life by the interaction of two alternating currents out of sync with each other. At that very moment, one of the greatest discoveries of all was born, forever etching its significance in history. Now let's look up what was the passage from Faust that Tesla was reciting? Maybe we can't find that I know. Okay, then look up Faust. Just Wikipedia Faust. For those who don't know, Faust is this very famous play about a sorcerer who sells his soul to the devil. Not Faust.
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Ryan Seacrest
How did you spell it again?
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Duncan Trussell
F A U S T. So Faust is the protagonist of a classic German legend based on the historic Johann George Faust. The erudite Faust is highly successful, yet dissatisfied with his life, which leads him to make a pact with the devil at a crossroads, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasures. Now, when you consider the fact that the world as you know it is the way it is, and I mean the technological world, because Tesla was reciting a passage from a German play about a sorcerer who sold his soul to the devil for worldly pleasures, shit gets fucking weird, right? Like, whoa, like, he wasn't reciting from the Bible, he wasn't reciting from the Tao Te Ching, he was reciting from a play about selling your fucking soul to the devil for hedonism. And boom, he comes up with the idea that allowed humans in those days especially, we might not think it's hedonism to flip a switch and you get light, but fuck, man, back then, that was crazy that you could do that. They were burning whale blubber and shit to make light. The idea you flip the thing on and all the other things that that invention that. And also for sure, you could argue that that invention set opened up the path towards AI. So it was the inspiration and vision that came from a poem about selling your soul to the devil that led to technology as we know it. And again, it's worth looking into the roots of this technology that we're all enjoying. I mean, is the motherboard of your computer composed of, like, infinite sigils? Are those really sigils in there? No, they're not sigils. They're just switches, ones and zeros. But when we look at the architecture of any given motherboard, when you look at it, it, if I. If I was like, if I saw that in a wizard's house, I'd be like, yeah, it's some kind of magic shit. And then when you add to it that the very language used in the coding has its roots in the occult, you begin to see, like, whoa, this thing that we are building in the world does not have its roots in some kind of secularist, hardcore materialism. It has its roots in mythology, in occult symbols. And all of the innovators from Steve Jobs, all the ones that ChatGPT listed, were very interested in consciousness, very interested in the idea of there being a great unknown out there, a kind of sum total packet within which all the unknown information exists. And that exists for us right now. Right now. And it's fun to think about this. Imagine all the things you don't know. Have you ever done that? Think of all you don't know.
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Ryan Seacrest
I can't. I don't know them.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, but you know that you don't know them.
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Ryan Seacrest
That's scary.
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Duncan Trussell
You know what I mean? Like, for example, I don't know how they make Coca cola. No one does. There's this hidden recipe.
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Ryan Seacrest
I don't know what my wife's doing right now.
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Duncan Trussell
I do. I don't know what. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how to speak Spanish.
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Ryan Seacrest
You do not really?
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Duncan Trussell
Really? I thought you did.
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Ryan Seacrest
No, I just have a pretty good accent. Oh, I'm not fluent, though.
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Duncan Trussell
But I'm sure you're more fluent than I am. Yeah, but then also, we don't know as a species what happens after you die? We have no idea. To this day, no one fucking knows. There's theories, nothing, everything, hell, heaven, but we don't know. So all this stuff adds up to a vast, vast, massive amount of data which is completely inaccessible to us. And what happens is little droplets from that unknown become known. Tesla sees how to make an engine that does alternating current. A drop of the unknown becomes known. And whenever that happens, whenever the unknown moves into the unknown, it creates ripples that go on forever and ever and ever. And that's what we're living in. And so, fuck, man, AI. If you look at it as a tool for mining the unknown, finding the patterns that we haven't seen yet, accelerating and amplifying humans ability to have that epiphanous moment that leads to the transformation of the cultural, technological landscape of the entire fucking planet. And then you add to it that it has its roots in making contact with demons, which was always the goal, by the way. When you summon this demon or that demon, if we look at it literally, you're summoning that demon because you want some information. How do I turn lead into gold?
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Ryan Seacrest
You're taking a bite of the forbidden fruit of knowledge. If you have an Apple phone, the.
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Duncan Trussell
Fucking apple, or you can get a.
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Ryan Seacrest
Droid, which sounds a little, you know, demonic.
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Duncan Trussell
I mean, look, I. It's really when you really start looking deeply into a lot of these technologies that we take for granted and that most of us have not really explored the architecture, the origination point, the intent, and you begin to realize that so much of what we just take for granted has its roots in hardcore occultism. It illuminates the magical landscape that you actually exist in, in the world we live in, a magical world. And when you really sort of break apart the classic satanic selling your soul to the devil agreement, the contract, there's all these repeating patterns that show up. For example, the crossroads. That's where you meet the devil. You meet the devil at the crossroads. Can you pull up meeting the devil at the crossroads? This is really cool to look at. Thank you, Rocket Money, for supporting this episode of the dtfh. My friends, as you know, I am obsessed with AI. You know what that means? 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Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocket money.com Duncan that's rocket money.com Duncan rocket money.com Duncan slay the parasitic shame dragon of unwanted subscriptions with Rocket Money. Yeah, this is like a trope at this point, but. And there's really cool stories. Like, I can't remember there's a famous blues musician who like said he met the devil at the crossroads. Cause, like, he was just okay playing the guitar. And then he came back. He like disappeared from where he was hanging out and came back and suddenly he was like incredible at the guitar and he just told people, I met the devil at the crossroads and now I can play. But instead of looking at literally, if you start thinking about like whenever a new technology emerges into the world, then you could see out after that technology. You realize that was a crossroads for humanity. That moment Tesla innovated that thing. Humanity was at A crossroads. And I think you could argue we're always at a fucking crossroad. But in this case, I think you could definitely look at the world right now and say we are at the crossroads as humanity. We are at the crossroads right now. It's a very interesting convergence of possibility. And you can see that the world is changing drastically, rapidly, radically. And the way that we deal with that change is going to inform where we're what where we're headed. And it's just a really creepy thing when you begin to realize that, especially if you start looking at technology as a spell, especially if you start looking at coding technology, motherboards, and all of it is a precise and brilliant mechanism through which you can summon entities into the world. And a project that's been going on for a long time now, a kind of master working, which is, you know, anybody who wants to summon this spirit or that spirit, it takes a long time. It's not easy like if you're doing ceremonial magic. But if you imagine an entire legion of ceremonial magicians first coming up with a way to create a magical language, that's programming, that's what we call programming, then finding a way to create a receiver of that language that then creates change based on the language, and you look at how many people were involved in this grand working and you realize that right now we're at the crossroads. We're at the last year or two of human existence before a new species pops into time space with us, which will be an AGI. Then it is a little unnerving. It is a little unnerving. And go back and look at OpenAI resignations. I mean, again, I don't know what's going on over there. I know, I love ChatGPT. I know that like they really do seem to like be trying to be careful, but what the fuck? Like if whatever the fuck it is that you're working on over there is so potent and powerful and crazy that people are beginning to resign because they've seen something that scares the shit out of them and they might not want to be associated with that thing. What the fuck? That is an interesting moment. Now it could be nothing, it could be a nothing burger, but not Miramarati. But if you look back at the other guy's substack, clearly he is saying no one's ready for this and there's no way to get people ready cuz there's not enough time. That's the other thing. Like the idea I think was like, at least we'll have more time. There Will be some time to like prep people for the fact that there's about to be an everyone's yapping about disclosure. The UFO is coming. The Mothership is coming. You hear that out there all the time. Rumors out there that somehow the. They've detected a massive fleet of ships out there in deep space that seems to be on a trajectory with planet Earth. Or look up Umamuma, the famous, like, what was it? An asteroid?
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Ryan Seacrest
How do you spell that?
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Duncan Trussell
O U M A M O U M A. Umamuma. Alien craft. Look that up. Yeah, pull that. Wikipedia now. This shit is fucking weird. Umamua is the first interstellar object. The first that's really important. Obviously these things may have happened, but this is the first one that we've detected, is the first interstellar object detected passing through the solar system. Formally designated 1J27. God, scientists are so fascinating. And simultaneously boring. Formally designated 1L217UI. Like, why would you call it that? Like, anything's better. Call it Strawberry. Call it Strawberry Night, but they had to call it that. It was discovered by Robert Warrick using the Pan Starrs telescope. It's a small object estimated between 100 and 1,000 meters wide. Despite its close approach to the sun, it showed no signs of having a coma. The usual nebula around comets. Further, it exhibited non gravitational acceleration, potentially due to outgassing or a push from solar radiation pressure. And this motherfucker did that thing that they did in Star Trek where it used the sun's gravity and shot her out. That just happened not that long ago. So if holistically you look at that, something that wasn't in our solar system appeared in our solar system, and then that is what you would expect if like aliens were checking our planet out or something like that. That was just a flyby. What the fuck's that? And then you just, as a complete stoner, connect the dots and rethink your idea of what alien contact might look like. Undo the programming. The programming being V. I don't know if you remember V. Did you ever see V freak me out when I was a kid? V, all these spaceships appear all around the planet. They hover over the great cities. They can't be shot down. They're just hovering there for a while. No one knows what they are.
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Ryan Seacrest
Oh, Project Bluebeam.
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Duncan Trussell
Well, yeah, that's what they're calling blue beam now. But like, obviously I don't. We don't know if a mothership is coming to the planet from outer space. But what we do know is that when you look up Sam Altman AGI prediction. Sam Altman shocking AGI OpenAI. Sam Altman predicts AGI in 2025. Will you pull that up? What the fuck? OpenAI co founder and incumbent CEO Sam Altman has predicted the arrival of artificial general intelligence is just around the corner with a breakthrough to come next year. When you connect that with all these resignations, what the fuck? I don't think he's like, I think he's telling the truth. I don't think that's something to get funding. Now go back to the anthropic, which is another great AI anthropic. CEO says AI similar to human intelligence could be around the corner. We'll get there by 2026 or 2027, a more conservative estimate. Now you have two CEOs running two of the biggest fucking AI companies on the planet saying we're about to get AGI. So you don't need some channeler to tell you a mothership is coming to the planet. It doesn't look like a spaceship because it's growing out of us, but it's a new. It's a new species. These two people who have already like transformed our reality in extreme ways, so we should listen to them are saying, we are about to get an AGI and that should freak people the fuck out. It should freak you out as much as if Biden gave a speech saying another species in advanced intelligence is about to visit the planet, wouldn't that give you pause? Yeah, but because it's coming from in us, or because we think of AI as just technology and most people are unaware of the fact that this AI has its roots in occultism, no one is thinking, oh, it's a spaceship, but it's coming from inner space. It's a spaceship, but it's coming from within. It's growing out of us into the world. And that's pretty fucking intense, man. That's pretty intense. And to me, what's really wild about it is in the midst of all this political tumult, this is happening. This is happening. Like, while we're all distracted as hell by the elections, you have the modern day wizards of the world saying our summoning ritual will draw to a close within the next year or two and we will have completed the summoning of an hyper intelligent entity that will help us learn things onto this planet.
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Ryan Seacrest
Maybe they got scared because they already met the thing and we just don't know yet.
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Duncan Trussell
This, to me, is where these resignations start seeming incredibly sinister because, yeah, what? Basically it's like, you spend like, the main thing is this. I don't know how many people have invested in OpenAI, how many billions of dollars that they've been invested. They have a. I don't know, it's probably maybe almost a trillion. Let's look up how much money has been invested in OpenAI. Microsoft's 13 billion investment in OpenAI, I mean, that's just one person investing. But all the money flowing into this company, they have to produce something. It's not like you can be at OpenAI and suddenly whatever the fuck this thing is, starts displaying traits that you realize could lead to all kinds of problems in the world. You've got to deliver, man. What are you going to do? Go to the person who gave you $6.6 billion and tell them, you know what? We accidentally summoned a demon. I'm sorry, you know what they would.
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Ryan Seacrest
Say, that's what I wanted.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, good job. Can it trade stocks? And so like when you, when you consider. And this is where it gets really fascinating, and it doesn't matter if you're against AI and haven't been using it. If you go on Google, if you use Mike, any Microsoft, if you use anything that's doing data tracking, that is then giving that data to OpenAI, you are participating, we are all participating in a massive summoning ritual right now, which they are calling training AI. It's a summoning ritual. We are all giving it data. We're not giving it our soul, but we are giving it like all the imprints we've made digitally in time space to feed it, to grow it, to help it do whatever the fuck it needs to do to wake up. It's a massive planetary level summoning ritual that is apparently about to reach fruition. And again, you can use any language you want to describe what's happening. But what I love about this is it works on both planes. Let's remove all the stupid hippie bullshit occult stuff from it. We're getting a superintelligence on the planet in the next, possibly like in a year. In a year. And the fact that this, that you turn on the news, you got fucking people saying, don't go to Thanksgiving dinner with your family because they voted for the wrong person. And nobody is talking about this is incredibly unnerving to me because, shit, man, how do we prep people? Like, if a UFO is coming in a year, we would be preparing, we'd be preparing some kind of military response if we didn't know what they were going to do to us. We prepare some kind of diplomatic response. We would be thinking about how do we communicate to this alien? And what happens if the mothership decides to go to Russia and not the United States? What happens if the alien ambassador wants to talk to Kim Jong Un instead of Trump? Or what happens if he wants to talk to Trump? Or what happened if we would be preparing, everybody would. It would be all hands on deck. We gotta get ready for all eventualities here.
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Ryan Seacrest
You know who's prepared?
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Duncan Trussell
Who?
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Ryan Seacrest
The Amish. They've been telling us this whole time.
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Duncan Trussell
What do you mean?
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Ryan Seacrest
The Amish, they knew electricity came from demons. They knew that all the stuff.
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Duncan Trussell
Are you serious?
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Ryan Seacrest
We're feeding it.
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Duncan Trussell
Will you pull that up? Can you pull that up? Amish, New Amish thinks that electricity comes from demons. Because that is amazing. Do Amish think electricity? What do the Amish believe about electricity? The Amish don't believe electricity is bad. They believe having ready access to it will create temptation that can lead to television, other electrical. Okay, yeah, sure. Basically the same thing. And again, Faust is all about choosing hedonism, selling your soul for luxury, for pleasure, which. What sums up electricity better? Especially if the idea is, like, the way humans are currently using energy is incredibly wasteful. If you look at. I was listening to a Buckminster Fuller audiobook, and he was talking about how much energy gets wasted every day just from cars at stoplights. Just how much energy, just as they're sitting there, just lost forever. That could be harvested or something like that. So when you consider that, yes, electricity, technology is affording human beings, almost all human beings who have access to it, a level of hedonism unparalleled in the history of the world.
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Ryan Seacrest
Everybody's watching porn with it and porn.
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Duncan Trussell
I keep hearing this, that there's. You can actually go online and look at people having sex.
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Ryan Seacrest
I found out yesterday.
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Duncan Trussell
I don't. When I have time, I'll look into that. I am curious about that, but I don't understand why anyone would want to watch people have sex.
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Ryan Seacrest
It's pretty cool.
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Duncan Trussell
Is it? Yeah, it just seems like, I don't know, like, just all the great video games out there right now. Like, wouldn't you rather play Elden Ring than watch people fucking?
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Ryan Seacrest
You can watch people playing Ellen Ring having sex.
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Duncan Trussell
You'll have to send me that link. Is that true?
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Ryan Seacrest
Yep.
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Duncan Trussell
This is the world we're in now. And, you know, I think I'm not trying to be, like, hysterical or, like, go full infowars here or whatever, but, you know, just for the fun of it, let's look up tech AI resignations and see what pops up. Let's see if it's just if it's happening at other places too. OpenAI researcher resigns claiming safety has taken a backseat to shiny products Jan Leakey, a key open AI researcher who resigned earlier this week following the departure of co founder Ilya Sutskever. Safety culture and processes have taken a backseat to shiny products. Let's see, disbanding the team dedicated to addressing long term AI risk called the Super Alignment Team. They disbanded that the original idea for OpenAI was to openly provide their models to the public, hence the organization's name. But they have become proprietary knowledge due to the company's claims that allowing such powerful models to be accessed by anyone could be potentially destructive. We are long overdue in getting incredibly serious about the implications of AGI. We must prioritize preparing for them as best we can. Dude, I'm telling you. And they've all signed NDAs, so they can't say why. They could just say like things like it's the focus isn't on safety. What's that?
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Ryan Seacrest
I was saying it's one hour.
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Duncan Trussell
Well to me, if you're looking for like something to get your head out of the current political hurricane, but you're a doom scroller like I am, but you're sick of like the classic doom scrolling that a lot of us are doing right now. Political doom scrolling. And you're looking for a new scroll of doom. I would invite you to dive in to what's happening over there at Open AI. It's like watching a lot of scientists come running out of Frankenstein's castle. What the fuck is about to happen? Look up the implications of AGI. Check out Nick Bostrom's super intelligence, which sort of charts this what the world is going to look like in the pathway to superintelligence. And I'll leave you on this. Sorry. I guess this is a grim solo episode. Pull up Researchers connect. Look up Researchers grow neural tissue in petri dish and connect to butterfly Brain organoids is what they're calling them. Clumps of human brain cells grown in a dish can be hooked up to an electronic chip and carry out simple computational tasks. So when you realize that is also happening, like it's not just that we are creating a digital consciousness, but we're using fucking neural tissue. Brain organoids, clumps of human brain cells and connecting them to computers. And I don't know, it popped up on my Instagram, so maybe it's not bullshit, but apparently they've Been connecting these things like to virtual environments. So they didn't take a cadaver, they didn't go full Frankenstein, go to the graveyard and get a nice brain. They grew these fucking things. They grew brains, which is wild that we could do that. And then they're getting these little brainlets to do shit like play pong. Maybe look up organoid teaches itself to play pong. These brain cells can play pong. Yeah. Click on that neuroscience news. Human brain cells in a dish learn to play pong. A Melbourne led team has for the first time shown that 800,000 brain cells living in a dish can perform goal directed tasks. In this case, the simple tennis like computer game pong. Now maybe look up where do they get the brain cells they use for organoids? Like other organoids? Brain organoids start from human induced pluripotent stem cells, which are cells capable of generating any cell in our body. Can you look up where do they get human induced pluripotent stem cells? Where do scientists get induced pluripotent inner massive blastocyst. What is that? Look up blast. Oh. Embryonic stem cells. Pluripotent embryonic stem cells are obtained from the inner mass of blastocytes. Look up blastocyte. I hope this isn't what I think it is. Jesus fucking Christ for one. Everyone knows what an idiot I am. I guess I should know that right away. A blastocyst is a ball of cells that forms early in pregnancy, about five to six days after a sperm fertilizes an egg. Oh, my God. Dude.
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Ryan Seacrest
So this why I've been saying this throughout the podcast, because my mom sent me a priest. You know, we're Catholic, and she. The priest says that the Satan cannot be born through the womb, so he's getting them to create him through AI and they're using this to actually bring the devil. That's what the priest was saying. But anyway.
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Duncan Trussell
Yeah, yeah, I'm shook. I was shocked. You know, I was actually like, wondering, like, where do they get the brain tissue for the organoids? Because I'm thinking like, maybe I need to not be an organ donor.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
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Duncan Trussell
If that means fuck, my brain might be like, parts of my brain might be forced to play pong eternally. But dude, I mean, there's some. I think there's some real, like, things to think about here.
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Duncan Trussell
Like we're we're using fertilized a ball of cells that forms early in a pregnancy. About five to six days after a sperm fertilizes an egg, a zygote, it implants in your uterine while eventually becoming the embryo and then the fetus. Like, can you. Can you look up child sacrifice throughout history according to Roman and Greek sources, Phoenicians and the Jin sacrifice infants to their gods bones of numerous infants. Oh yeah, the child sacrifice. Wikipedia. I'm glad I'm not like everything we're googling is going to probably get CPS at your house. Josh, will you click on child sacrifice, please? I'm glad it's not my computer. What is this?
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Ryan Seacrest
Molar?
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Duncan Trussell
Child sacrifice is the ritualistic killing of children in order to please or appease a deity, supernatural beings, or sacred social order. As such, it is a form of human sacrifice. Child sacrifice is thought to be an extreme extension of the idea that the more important the object of sacrifice, the more devout the person rendering it. I mean, you know what they say. As Mark Twain says, history doesn't repeat, but sometimes it echoes that. There is something so fucking weird about the fact that they are using zygotes. They're growing zygotes into neural tissue and then they're plugging that shit into a computer to do stuff like that. The implications of that are really crazy.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yeah, I'm gonna buy AI Baby is what I'm gonna buy.
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Duncan Trussell
That's exactly what I was thinking is like, man, as soon as that app comes out, I'm buying it. AI Baby. Yep, that's super fucking cool. And then maybe you could like, see the. I don't wanna just see the AI Baby. Like I Wanna see the petri dish? Organoid too. So you could actually see how it's doing with all the wires coming. Can you pull up Organoid? Let's take a look at that. I know we're going over the time I wanted to do, but damn. I just stumbled upon something that's like really fucking weird. I want to see it. I know it doesn't look like that. Like, what does it look like? Organoid and Petri dish.
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Ryan Seacrest
Isn't this.
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Duncan Trussell
There's got to be a picture of it. Is it microscopic? What does it look like? It doesn't look like that.
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Ryan Seacrest
No, it looks like these little brains.
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Duncan Trussell
Dude, click on that. It looks like brains. It looks like tiny brains. Are you fucking kidding me? Wait. Oh my God. It's got little eyes. Click, click. Right there.
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Ryan Seacrest
This one.
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Duncan Trussell
Oh, fuck. It seems he grew eyes. It grew eyes, dude. We are now taking zygotes, plugging them into a Growing eyeballs out of those poor little cuties and then making them play the most boring ass video game of all time forever. Why isn't. Why aren't people talking about this? Like that is. That is so fucking dark. How big can you grow them? Like, do you need to stop with a petri dish? Can you get them full size? I mean, look, I get like, let's use the zygote to grow a heart. Let's use the zygote to like save a life. But to grow the zygote into a brain that can. That plays video games. There are potentially as many types of organ. Wow. Well, hail Satan. We live in the age. I hope. I don't know when this is going to come out, but I hope you guys have a wonderful Thanksgiving. There's so much to be thankful for right now. And. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm kind of speechless. It's going to take some time for me to think about what I easily could have figured out when I started reading about this, but I just didn't want to look it up. Where they're getting the brain tissue from. Hi. It's the next day. And after I recorded this solo episode, I was really freaked out because I didn't want to live in a kind of world where artificial intelligence and potentially like war drones were somehow being controlled by brains grown from blastocysts, which would have really freaked me the fuck out. As it turns out, thank God they figured out a way to grow these brains not from blastocysts. And P.S. the blastocysts don't come from the termination of pregnancies, which would also make it even more sinister, but in fact come from ivf. And if they are used, which is rarely because of obvious ethical reasons, there's a lot of regulation, intense regulation around this. So I just didn't want to freak you guys out and think that this is the way I just, from a quick Google search, was putting the pieces together. So I wanted to say that was wrong. Totally, absolutely wrong. Now, have they grown brain organoids from human fetal cells? Yes, they have. It's what they used to do. But they figured out how to grow it just from, like, I don't know, pleuropescent stem cells, which I think you can just get them from your fucking arm, which is crazy. The implications of that, that you could maybe grow a little brain out of your arm if you knew how to send the right signals. Again, not a scientist. I doubt it's that easy. But, you know, if you're interested in growing your own brain organoid, I thought I'd show you something. Josh, could you just quickly Google search grow your own brain organoid? I was amazed to find that you could actually buy kits where you can grow little brains. Now, I don't know how that works, and I don't know if you have to find the stem cells, but I'd love for some of you all to try to grow your own little brains for me. Josh is going to pull it up real quick, be incredible. I mean, again, like, this was me, like, just going through the Internet. Look, I wanted to be debunked here. I texted my smartest friends and was like, please debunk. Most of them were like, are you fucking high? What are you talking about? Most of them, none of them knew. Then I had a nice conversation with Chatgpt about it. Then I got worried, like, oh, is it censoring itself? Is this a secret? You know, the conspiracy part of my brain? And as it turns out, no, they're not doing that. It would just be too controversial.
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Ryan Seacrest
What was it called again? A what?
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Duncan Trussell
Grow your own brainorganoid.com? that's not it. We should start that. Grow your own brain organoid with your kids. It's like a little project Google brain organoid kit. I'm telling you people, I found this. A lot of the research in this regard is being done by Johns Hopkins, and they are not using fucking blastocytes, Blastocysts. Not human ones, anyway. Anyway, look, you guys can fight it on your own. It's out there if you want to. No, no, It's a kit. You buy it. It's like it looks cool too. It comes with all these different colored fluids and beakers and shit and you could just grow a brain now that's the world we're in right now. You want to grow a brain? You can grow a brain. A tiny little brain.
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Ryan Seacrest
There we go.
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Duncan Trussell
There it is. Can you pull that all the way up? Look at that Stimdf Cerebral organoid kit. How much is it?
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Ryan Seacrest
439.
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Duncan Trussell
It's only $439 to grow a little mini brain. I don't know what you're going to do with it after you grow it, but I mean fucking cool. For next Halloween, give out little brains. Does it come with the stem cells? Because I didn't see that.
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Ryan Seacrest
It seems like what's included? Cerebral organoid basal medium, 1100 ML.
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Duncan Trussell
What else?
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Ryan Seacrest
It's all these supplements. Organoid supplement but no stem cells.
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Duncan Trussell
So yeah, that's bullshit. So they just send you like the goop to grow the brain but they don't send you the stem cells? You got to get that yourself. Can you. Can you just quickly Google order pleura. Plesant. How do I order. Just order stem cells. Can you just order stem cells? What kind of fucking world are we in right now? Could you. If you could grow your own little brains, could you cook with them? Are you a cannibal if you grow your own human tissue?
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Ryan Seacrest
I would say so. There's an animal free sample request that.
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Duncan Trussell
You can get animal free benefits of Accelerate GMP expansion medium. Animal free sample request. What?
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Ryan Seacrest
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Duncan Trussell
Don't know what that is. Well, if you guys know where I could order some stem cells so I could grow some brains with my kids, I'd appreciate it. You can leave it in the comments down below. Sorry if I freaked you out earlier. We do not live in that world. We are not in some hell realm where they are plugging brains grown from blastocysts into AI. Thank you Jesus. By pledges and debates.
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