671: William Montgomery

Summary

Podcast Summary: Duncan Trussell Family Hour - Episode 671: William Montgomery

Introduction In Episode 671 of the Duncan Trussell Family Hour, host Duncan Trussell welcomes back a favorite guest, William Montgomery. The episode centers around William's latest documentary film, Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival, which recently premiered at South by Southwest (SXSW) in Austin. The conversation delves deep into the creation, themes, and reception of the film, exploring its provocative content and the cultural dynamics it portrays.

SXSW and the Film Premiere Duncan begins by setting the scene of SXSW, emphasizing the festival's vibrant and electric atmosphere. He describes Austin during the festival as "palpable" and "sexually charged," drawing a parallel to the famed Carnival in Rio de Janeiro.

Duncan Trussell [01:26]: "Out there, it's palpable. And it's a. It's zesty. It's wild."

William echoes Duncan's sentiments, highlighting the unique energy SXSW brings to Austin and the significance of bringing elements from Rio's Carnival into their own event.

Introducing Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival The core of the discussion revolves around William’s documentary, Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival. Duncan expresses his admiration for the film, calling it "heartwarming, beautiful, erotic" and praises its ability to encapsulate the essence of a good documentary.

Duncan Trussell [00:00]: "You have a movie premiering at SXSW. Tell me about Bush Boys or what is it? The Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival."

Themes and Sexuality in the Film A significant portion of the conversation explores the film's portrayal of sexuality and its impact. Duncan shares a personal anecdote to segue into the topic of sexual experiences, questioning whether the Bush Boys are as sexually potent as depicted.

Duncan Trussell [02:49]: "I was on LSD, and I think I had, like, six orgasms… are the Bush boys the sexual powerhouses that they seem like in your movies?"

William confirms the intensified sexual experiences portrayed, discussing the presence of the Bush Boys and their interactions during events like SXSW.

William Montgomery [03:23]: "They do have these parking structures down here, especially during South by Southwest…"

Impact of Sexual Denial Duncan delves into the darker themes of the film, discussing how the denial of sexual interactions can lead to negative psychological outcomes for men. He emphasizes the importance of consent and the compassion shown in allowing consensual interactions.

Duncan Trussell [04:31]: "It's the role of the older gentlemen in society to sort of build up younger people…"

William expands on this, noting the autonomy of the women involved and the ethical considerations of their choices.

William Montgomery [04:05]: "Who am I to say, oh, you're not allowed to do that with your body…"

Cultural Rituals and Misinterpretations The conversation shifts to the cultural rituals depicted in the film, clarifying misconceptions about BDSM and emphasizing the sacred nature of the Bush Boys' rituals.

Duncan Trussell [25:11]: "I misspoke."

William Montgomery [25:24]: "It really is a ritual. And thank you. Seriously, Duncan, thank you for using it, calling it what it is."

Reception and Controversy at SXSW William shares experiences of presenting the film at SXSW, including skepticism from organizers about the authenticity and professionalism of the Bush Boys.

William Montgomery [27:02]: "They don't trust. They see. Talking about the racism and stuff, they do not trust…"

Duncan Trussell [27:14]: "What are they saying about the Bush boys?"

Positive Message and Hope Despite controversies, both Duncan and William highlight the film's positive message, focusing on themes of hope and the transformative power of compassion.

Duncan Trussell [09:03]: "For the first time in years, probably since the pandemic, I felt hope."

William Montgomery [11:17]: "You're gonna get it when you watch this film. I mean it's, it's wonderful."

Personal Anecdotes and Side Discussions The latter part of the podcast features lighthearted and humorous exchanges, including stories about dog rescues, exaggerated tales of farts, and playful banter about historical figures like George Washington. These segments provide a contrast to the serious themes discussed earlier, adding depth to the personalities of Duncan and William.

Duncan Trussell [31:10]: "But the ass seems just mean."

William Montgomery [35:35]: "He is like some kind of like a Santa Claus. Santa Claus for for dogs…"

Conclusion The episode wraps up with Duncan expressing his admiration for William's film and the meaningful conversations it sparks about sexuality, culture, and compassion.

Duncan Trussell [68:25]: "I will see you guys next week. Until then, Hare Krishna."

Notable Quotes with Attribution and Timestamps

• Duncan Trussell [00:00]: "Everything is perfect I'm okay Everything is perfect I'm okay..."

• William Montgomery [03:23]: "They do have these parking structures down here, especially during south by Southwest…"

• Duncan Trussell [04:31]: "It's the role of the older gentlemen in society to sort of build up younger people…"

• William Montgomery [07:09]: "Astounding. They're astonishing. They're astounding. It's heartbreaking."

• Duncan Trussell [09:03]: "For the first time in years, probably since the pandemic, I felt hope."

• William Montgomery [17:02]: "Yeah. They hand me my hot chocolate. Whatever I'm getting, it's always thank you."

• Duncan Trussell [25:24]: "I want to acknowledge that was a. I misspoke."

• William Montgomery [35:35]: "He is like some kind of like a Santa Claus. Santa Claus for for dogs…"

Takeaways

• Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival is a provocative and heartfelt documentary exploring the interplay between sexuality, culture, and personal transformation.
• SXSW serves as a vibrant backdrop for the film's premiere, embodying the festival's dynamic and charged atmosphere.
• The film challenges societal norms around consent and the psychological impacts of sexual denial, advocating for compassion and understanding.
• Cultural rituals, such as those depicted by the Bush Boys, offer a different perspective on sexuality and communal bonds.
• Despite facing skepticism and controversy, the film resonates with audiences by delivering a message of hope and the enduring power of love.

For those interested in exploring deep, culturally rich topics wrapped in engaging storytelling, Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival is a must-watch, promising to leave viewers with a renewed sense of hope and understanding.

Transcript

[Duncan Trussell]

Welcome to the dtfh. Returning to the podcast is one of my favorite people on planet Earth, William Montgomery. You probably have already heard about his controversial yet beautiful film, the Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival. Now it's south by Southwest. I was lucky enough to see it. It is amazing, heartwarming, beautiful, erotic. All the things you want in a good documentary and one. William is here with us today to talk about what it was like to make what is being called one of the most beautiful and heartfelt films of 2025. Here's William Montgomery. Everything is perfect I'm okay Everything is perfect I'm okay Everything is perfect Every single day Everything is perfect I'm okay I'm okay I'm okay Josh. Okay, let's start. And cut this song, please.

[Josh]

Got it.

[William Montgomery]

Great.

[Duncan Trussell]

So SXSW has come to Austin. The city is on fire. It is. The energy in Austin, when South by Southwest comes here is, like, palpable. It's palpable. How do you say it?

[William Montgomery]

Palpable.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's palpable.

[William Montgomery]

Palpable.

[Duncan Trussell]

Out there, it's palpable. And it's a. It's zesty. It's wild.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

Sex. Sexually charged.

[William Montgomery]

Big time.

[Duncan Trussell]

And so I. You know, obviously, people who don't live in Austin aren't aware of, like, what it's like here. And SXSW has been compared to Carnival.

[William Montgomery]

Carnival. Rio de Janeiro.

[Duncan Trussell]

De Janeiro.

[William Montgomery]

Yes.

[Duncan Trussell]

And so this brings me to what, obviously, we should talk about, which is why you came on the show. You have a movie premiering at sxsw. Tell me about Bush Boys or what is it? The Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival. And I'm actually. I actually did a Q and A a little bit before this. That's why I can't tell. I don't know if y'all can tell that I'm sweating, but I was actually wearing this. Yes. Oh, my gosh. They're making us do all of these walkthroughs. It's me and some of the cast. A couple of the Bush Boys are. Have actually come from Rio.

[Duncan Trussell]

No shit.

[William Montgomery]

Normally, they don't travel, but we're able to get a couple of the Bush Boys. We were able to get them up here. They're having a great time.

[Duncan Trussell]

I mean, is SXSW ready for the Bush Boys? Is the real question, Is it real? I gotta ask this. You know, I. There was one time in my life where I had multiple, like, many, many orgasms.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

I was on lsd, and I think I had, like, six orgasms in a.

[William Montgomery]

Row, just back to back to back to back to back, pretty much.

[Duncan Trussell]

And I'd heard that, you know, I'd read, shit, Timothy Leary said this could happen. And, you know, but I'd never experienced that before, you know, the prostates involved and stuff. And maybe that was part of it. But I'm just curious, are the Bush boys the sexual powerhouses that they seem like in your movies?

[William Montgomery]

Yes. One of them, specifically, Tomas, we call him Thomas, but I think it's really Tomas, as you were talking about earlier. They do have these parking structures down here, especially during south by Southwest, where. Yeah, they're just girls that will suck on your dick.

[Duncan Trussell]

What is, I mean, is that crazy?

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, you were talking about it earlier.

[Duncan Trussell]

Three on the way here, three on the way here. And, you know, I, I, I'm a nice guy, which generally ladies don't like that. And I try to be polite, and I'm like, hey, I got a podcast to do Force Field, and it's in, you know, it's like at some point, you just don't want to hurt someone's feeling. These are college girls. They're still building their confidence up, and.

[William Montgomery]

They'Re there, they're in, they're up in the parking structure. They know what they're doing. I agree. Dug in. There was a point in time. I'm thinking, this is horrible. They need to get the police something. They stop this. But it's almost like, well, if the girls are choosing to do that. Yeah, well, I don't know, who are we to say? Who am I? Who am I to say, oh, you're not allowed to do that with your body. You're not allowed to. They should be al if they want to. It's not hurting me.

[Duncan Trussell]

And also, I kind of feel like it's the role of the, the older gentlemen in society to sort of build up younger people. And, you know, like, I've seen in the parking garages, like, you see them, some of them are crying because someone refused the blowjob, and they're genuinely hurt. And it's like, you know, that's the kind of thing where if you say to them, even politely, like, you know, now, I'm busy or whatever, I gotta go, I don't have time. Or I just, you know, I just got a blowjob from that girl over there, you know, that maybe they're gonna smile and act like it doesn't hurt, but you see the pain in their face, and then that leads to maybe bad decisions down the road stem from insecurity lack of confidence that when they choose whoever they marry and start a family with, that might not be the best choice. And it's all goes right back to you denying them a chance to give you a blowjob. Which is why. You know, why I allow it as much as I can.

[William Montgomery]

I know. You have to. Yeah. Sometimes they'll start. Yeah. Going down wrong paths. I. Weirdly enough, there was a study recently that people stopped wearing their seatbelts. You know, one of the girls on tlc, the don't go chasing waterfalls. Those people. One of those girls died. Didn't have a seatbelt on. Also, the yellow Power Ranger seriously died, no seatbelt, in a car crash.

[Duncan Trussell]

And you are connecting that to someone rejecting the blowjob. Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. There's just a weird connection. And I don't know exactly what it is specifically with the. With the blowjobs or what have you.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, this is what I really loved about Bush Boys Adventure at Carnival. Because, you know, it starts off, you think this is just gonna be a typical, you know, like, over sex, toxic masculinity, bro thing. You meet the Bush Boys initially, if you're not familiar with them, and they seem kind of like, fratty. They're ripped. They're beautiful.

[William Montgomery]

Big time. They wear real short shorts a lot of the time. They wear the aqua socks or whatever. Yeah. You can see their penises through the freaking shorts sometimes.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. And so, you know, not that I'm, you know, I do enjoy a kind of, like, bro romp from time to time, but what I didn't expect was the slow reveal spoiler that this epidemic that is plaguing the planet of men denying women when they want to suck them off is leading to quantifiable fatalities. And the numbers are heartbreaking.

[William Montgomery]

Astounding. They're astonishing. They're astounding. It's. It's heartbreaking. But that's where the Bush boys come in. That's where we went in. We went down to Rio again. Tomas is from Rio, but we go down to Rio and it's pretty much. It's kind of. At least at the beginning. You might have liked it. I don't know. But the beginning part, where it's kind of like a Girls Gone Wild thing. We're just walking around. Tomas is there, Miguel is there, and they're going around their little shorts. You can see their thing or whatever. And then the women are throwing them the beads because it's kind of like similar to a. To what people do here in New Orleans during Mardi Gras during. During Marty Gr. It's very similar to that, but we kind of put a spin on it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Because in the past it was, oh, women showing their bosoms, what have you.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[William Montgomery]

This one. Let's get Tomas and Miguel in there. That was my theory. I was thinking, okay, we got these two hunks. Yeah. Down there at Carnival.

[Duncan Trussell]

How.

[William Montgomery]

How are they going to do down there? How are they going to end up down there when they're shaking their bodies around? Or they can end up with a bunch of necklaces just even that. I mean, how many necklaces? Two guys looking hunky, whatever. They're probably going to end up with a bunch of necklaces. And sure enough, you got to watch the movie. But sure enough, one of them at least ends up with a whole bunch of necklaces towards the middle of it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, now what? I mean, he collapsed under the weight of the necklaces.

[William Montgomery]

Collapsed. And that ended up Duncan being a really bad problem. And I swear to God, I was talking to south by Southwest earlier. They were kind of already telling us what general questions they were maybe going to ask us. And somebody said, well, what about Miguel's knees? He blew out his knees or whatever with the dude that was necklaces. And I just tell them there's no, you're not gonna ask us about that. We're at south by Southwest.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

I have two of my boys in from Rio. You're not going to be asking. This is like a celebratory.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yes.

[William Montgomery]

It's like Carnival.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Let's treat it like Carnival.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yes, Treat like Carnival. In the compassion that you bring to this story. They both. By the end of the movie, you know, you feel like you're watching a documentary on like Gandhi. It really. And I know like these days everybody wants to like do some corrective, like hope for the world bullshit, but this is really it, man. This. For the first time in years, probably since the pandemic, I felt hope. Because you know, these guys, they, you know, they could get blown by anybody. They're handsome, beautiful hunks. But that moment when Gloria, uh huh. That old lady I know, comes up to Miguel with a necklace, he's just blown his knees out.

[William Montgomery]

Yep.

[Duncan Trussell]

But she's been in line. She's old, she's trembling. And you see that look in her. Like I could just see, oh, she was young once for sure.

[William Montgomery]

You could tell she was pretty beautiful. You could tell it was a very pretty. You can sometimes every now and again you can see an old woman or whatever and think Damn, she used to be really pretty.

[Duncan Trussell]

And that cut to his face where you're thinking like, there's no fucking way he's going to let this old lady blow him after he just literally blew his knees out. And how many blowjobs had he gotten.

[William Montgomery]

Up and up until that point it was four or five in kind of rapid succession. Normally it's not really like that. Like he can do okay in circumstances like that, but I was worried, he.

[Duncan Trussell]

Just, she looks at him, there's no words spoken. It's obvious what's going on. Yeah, you see, she's ready to be rejected. Disappointed. And then he just zips down in short shorts and he lets her suck his heart.

[William Montgomery]

It was crazy, Duncan. And I'm literally standing right there. I'm seeing all of this happen. It's like it again. It's. You're, you're totally correct. I mean, I think when people watch, when people watch the film, they're going to have a new, a kind of new breath on life. That's what we've been saying. New breath on life.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, of.

[William Montgomery]

You're gonna get it when you watch this film. I mean it's, it's wonderful again. Miguel, Tomas. There's a guy named Ricardo, super sweet guy. We met him, I think in Peru when we were on the way down there on the train. Right. But oh my gosh, just the sweetest guy you've ever met. And he's actually up here right now for south by Southwest is the craziest time right now.

[Duncan Trussell]

I mean, like, because of that film. This is why, you know, normally when I'm coming through the parking garages to come here, you know, I'm, I, you know, I hate it. But I'm saying I'm rejecting, I'm rejecting blowjobs a lot. But this time I let every college girl blow me all the way here.

[William Montgomery]

It's south by Southwest. I mean, we gotta have some fun.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, yeah, but you know the fourth blowjob, it hurts.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

And like, honestly, it's very hard for a 50 year old man to like get an erection after the. I mean these are beautiful college girls and tennis skirts and you know, sneakers and they're beautiful like vodka on their breasts, little socks.

[William Montgomery]

I noticed a couple today had the little tennis ball site. It looked, I saw that same deal where they were wearing the tennis stuff and it's like two little tennis balls hanging off on each side of the sock. God, I can't get enough of that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, normally, yeah, that, that will like definitely like Spring is in the air. But you know, fourth, fifth. But I got to that fifth one. And I knew right now if I wanted to. She's seen me getting blown all the way down here. She knows. She's heard me say, listen, I gotta go do this podcast. Want a coffee? And I just remembered, you know what? If this episode of the DTFH has been supported by AG1 and I want to give a shout out to my AG1 buddy, Pam Pomper. Pam Pomper is one of my workout bros. We work out at the gym and every morning he calls me and says, did you drink your green? I'm like, what? Sometimes I'm tired. Because he calls super early. He's a morning person. But he says, did you drink your HE1? And I'm like, oh, my God, thanks for reminding me. He knows that I forget my vitamins, and I really used to forget my vitamins before AG1 because there's so many to take, but with AG1, it's just one glorious packet that you dump into the water. And it tastes so good. Listen, daylight savings is coming, and pretty soon you're going to have to contend with a shift in time that is essentially forced upon us by a monolithic and invisible power that seems to want to be in control of everything, including time itself. This makes you feel a little thrown off. And for the parents out there, you know what it's like dealing with the adjustment with kids, which is why AG1 is perfect for you. And hopefully you'll find an AG1 buddy much like Pamp Pomper. Who. This is for you, Pam. When it comes to my health, I want something I can trust. And that's why I choose AG1. With science backed ingredients and real benefits, I can feel AG1 makes it easy to support overall wellness every day. And that's why I've been partnering with AG1 for so long. And AG1 is offering new subscribers a free $76 gift. When you sign up, you get a welcome kit, a bottle of D3K2, and five free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out drinkag1.com Duncan to get this offer. That's drinkag1.com Duncan to start your new year on a healthier note. Thank you, Ag. That hunk had the compassion to let that old lady who's probably 95 blow him with that. I mean, you know, it's an old mouth. You know, a lot of cocks have been in there, a lot of sugar and cocks, and if he could do it I can, too. And you know what? I got hard. Let her do it. She said thank you so much. Right when she finished, she said, I have two months to live and thank you for this.

[William Montgomery]

And it's sweet when they say thank you afterwards, because not all the times is it a thank you. I see. What are we doing here? What are we doing?

[Duncan Trussell]

It is rude. You know, I do think that the American female blowjob etiquette, you know, I don't want to be, like, mansplaining here, but, you know. You know, it is. I know it's just words, but I do kind of expect thank you after you blow me.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Yeah. For any woman who happens to be listening to this or watching or whatever. Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

Just thank us.

[William Montgomery]

Thank you afterwards. Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's simple. It's just basic, man. I mean, like, do you say thank you at Starbucks? I do.

[William Montgomery]

I do, too. Yeah. They hand me my hot chocolate. Whatever I'm getting, it's always thank you. Oh, my God.

[Duncan Trussell]

Thank you for the latte.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Thanks so much. I needed this.

[Duncan Trussell]

Thank you.

[William Montgomery]

I needed that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. Thank you for the slice of pizza at the pizzeria. Thank you to my doctor. Thank you to my tattoo man.

[William Montgomery]

Yep.

[Duncan Trussell]

You know what I mean? And yet, for some reason, women, they just don't seem compelled to say thanks for letting me suck your dick.

[William Montgomery]

Well, it's a cultural thing, because again, down in Brazil, I found down in Rio especially, they were cool with that. But again, I mean, I'm hanging out. It's so cool. It's like, you're hanging out.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's a different culture.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. My gosh. And they see Miguel or whatever, and then I'm hanging out with them, so I'm. I'm guilty by association. They're like, oh, my gosh, who's this hunk? Because I'm not. I'm. I'm not a hunk at all, but I swear.

[Duncan Trussell]

Beautiful. You've got a glow.

[William Montgomery]

Well, thanks. Well, I'm not, like, fucking Miguel.

[Duncan Trussell]

No. Oh, come on. Nobody's like that.

[William Montgomery]

I know.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's a. That's like a. That's a grade A hunk.

[William Montgomery]

I know, but it's cool, even being able to hang out with somebody like that when you're down there.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah. You know, I gotta ask this, too. So the. The whole, like, Brazilian, the whole spanking thing, like, you know, if you asked me to spank your ass, I would say, no, I'm not into that. I want to spank my friend's ass.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

But that's a real Thing with bros out there, like they lay each other down on their lap and they spank their ass for a long time.

[William Montgomery]

It is, yeah, no watching tv, whatever.

[Duncan Trussell]

What is that? And did he spank your ass?

[William Montgomery]

Oh, yeah. Duncan. Honestly, it was hard for me to sit down on this chair right now because again, they're up here right now. They brought them and they, they're, they're the kind of paddles you might have seen in like a, a movie that deals with fraternities or something. Literally, like a fraternity battle. And they go back. They are so ripped up, they're so muscly. They go back and they hit you. Yeah, you gotta. Sometimes it's on a fence. A lot of times with me, it's just on a fence. I have to lean over a fence.

[Duncan Trussell]

A fence, Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

A lot of the times it's offense.

[Duncan Trussell]

Why not, why not the lap?

[William Montgomery]

Because I was laughing too much. They said something, it was kind of a joke, but yeah, they were like, what's going on? Why? This is kind of isn't funny, what we're trying to do right now.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, it seems. What is it though? Is it an initiation? They are saying words. I, I, I looked it up, my translator app. I have no idea what those words are. Like. What is that?

[William Montgomery]

It's as, as what I've been able to gather. It is an initiation into their, into their group. So I was more than willing, more than happy to do it. I mean, yes, there would be some evenings you get done getting there be some nights where you'd get done.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Getting paddled and it's like you've been starving all day because they don't give you a lot of food down there or whatever. And then it's like, I swear, Duncan, you're not even hungry.

[Duncan Trussell]

Whoa.

[William Montgomery]

Seriously. I would go days without eating sometimes down there.

[Duncan Trussell]

This is, you know, this is like, I like, I love, like AI. And because I love AI, I follow a lot of the tech trends and what's going on in Silicon Valley dot com. I go there all the time. And you know, you read all this stuff right now in Silicon Valley, a lot of the tech people have figured out how to sleep with just one side of their brain. So they, half their body falls asleep. The other half of their body stays awake and can code or whatever work.

[William Montgomery]

Wow.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's really cool and weird looking, you know, because it's like crazy to see that. And they have props to hold this side up. They put themselves in a kind of, it's like a body cast where you can Slide in here.

[William Montgomery]

So they're sitting up. I was curious if they were maybe standing up.

[Duncan Trussell]

Standing up, yeah. It's like the whole thing is like a mold that they're getting their bodies molded in silicon and then that's attached to like a framing structure. They put their hands through, their legs through. There's wheels on the bottom, and they basically pull themselves along with this side of their body while this side sleeps.

[William Montgomery]

So kind of like an exoskeleton, maybe half exoskeleton.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's a modular exoskeleton. Theoretically. I guess you could just sleep in it if you wanted to, but yeah. And so when you look at like videos from Apple, videos from any of the big tech companies, it's fascinating to watch because you see the employees are like dragging. One side of them's wide awake, dragging. The other side's like asleep. And they just roll through the office. And that way they can. They can work 24 hours a day. Damn, isn't that fucking cool? But the other thing that they're doing is spanking each other.

[William Montgomery]

So it gets the endorphins flat. I mean, honestly, faster than eating endorphins.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's faster than eating. And somehow it gives calories, which is crazy to hear that you've experienced that.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Again, I would go days dug in without ever even eating, and I felt stronger than ever.

[Duncan Trussell]

You didn't lose weight?

[William Montgomery]

I did not lose weight. I gained weight. I was eating a bunch of the. Stir fried. The rice, like stir fried rice? Yeah, fried rice. Was eating a whole bunch of fried rice. See, it's. I never can remember that. I always want to say, what is it? Stir fry rice? No, just fried rice. I always forget that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Fried rice.

[William Montgomery]

Fried rice. And it's not stuff stir fried rice sometime, is it?

[Duncan Trussell]

I mean, if it's fried and you stir it. Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

If you're doing maybe a stir fry.

[Duncan Trussell]

Or that would be stirred fried rice.

[William Montgomery]

Stirred fried rice.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's different than stir fry rice. Stir fry would imply you did it in a stir fryer.

[William Montgomery]

A stir fryer stirred. Mean you're stir. Maybe in a wok or something. You're stirring it around and you have all the ingredients. A bowl or whatever.

[Duncan Trussell]

Technically, you just take fried rice and you.

[William Montgomery]

Whatever could use a plate. I used a plate the other night. It was kind of funny. I was in the apartment and I used a plate to eat my fried rice. And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I hope this doesn't tip over the edge like a dangerous thing. I'm doing. Right now, but that's what happens.

[Duncan Trussell]

Don't go, Jason. Waterfalls of Rice.

[William Montgomery]

I know, I know. Where you got to be careful. Wear your seatbelt. But see, that's part of the re. I'm living a little more dangerously, and I swear I contribute a decent amount to it. Of my time down in Rio with the bush boys. I mean, those dudes were against something else. They really held my confidence.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's. I guess like, you know, in Buddhism, they talk about something called dharmic transmission, which is like, when you're with your teacher, they actually. It's not the words. It's. Something else is coming through during the. You know, during that moment. But I did, you know, I did get the feeling. I know you weren't on camera for this one, unfortunately. I think you should be. I would have loved to have seen the fence spanking and stuff. Just, I'm very curious about the spanking rituals of the bush boys and very curious.

[William Montgomery]

Well, when it was on the fence, it was good. Sometimes they made us get in something called bows and toes. I can't remember the translation of what it sounded like when they said it, but it was called bows and toes. And they would get these bottle caps. They were drinking a lot of beer at the time. And we'd have to put the bottle caps on your elbows.

[Duncan Trussell]

What the.

[William Montgomery]

And then you get down in like a push up position where your toes are on the ground. Like you're doing a push up or whatever. And your hands aren't on it. Your freaking elbows are on it with the bottle caps. And then they're hitting you then. And then sometimes then they're not always hitting you in the butt. They're hitting you in the back or the legs. And then you're falling and they're yelling at you. But just being on the other side of it, though, I get where they're coming.

[Duncan Trussell]

It sounds. It sounds like kind of like bdsm.

[William Montgomery]

Well, it was something else. It was something else.

[Duncan Trussell]

I mean, I get. Again, I deeply respect all cultures, and in no way am I insulting the spanking rituals of the bush boys or any of the people of the world who engage in these very sacred rituals.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, it's ritual. And thank you. Seriously, Duncan, thank you for using it, calling it what it is. Sometimes people don't like to call it what it is. Yeah. It's in fact, a ritual.

[Duncan Trussell]

And I would like to, if I could apologize earlier, I said it sounds like bdsm. I want to acknowledge that was a. I misspoke.

[William Montgomery]

Thank You. Because it really is not. In certain ways. Again, I've heard of it where it can get kind of sexual or whatever, but in this, what these Bush boys are doing, seriously, it was not. It wasn't really sexual in nature. It really wasn't.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, I mean, BDSM technically isn't always sexual necessarily. I mean, it can be. You know, it could just be like you are in a latex bodysuit and another person is in a latex bodysuit, and they just stand in front of you and nothing happens.

[William Montgomery]

So what if you start kissing or something? Is that when it turns into BDSM or you can. Or just.

[Duncan Trussell]

No, I mean, technically, that would be bdsm.

[William Montgomery]

Oh. Just wearing the suits and look.

[Duncan Trussell]

And you just look at. You just stand in front of each other for a long time, but that's it.

[William Montgomery]

Could you do that?

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, I could do that. I could do that. But the point is not that stuff. The point is that I think your film shed light on the fact that indeed, other cultures engage in ritualistic, mystical activity that doesn't fit into the norms of our society and how this kind of endogenous, as you said, the endogenous racism of the west is a blindfold upon the eyes of the heart. And I just think that's so beautiful.

[William Montgomery]

Well, thank you, Duncan. It's. Again, we're going to be talking about it a lot at south by Southwest. I think we're on. I think it's at the beginning of this coming week is when we're going to be there.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, you use it. But what was this panel you just did?

[William Montgomery]

Well, the panel was actually. They. They don't trust. They see. Talking about the racism and stuff, they do not trust. They don't trust the Bush boys that I brought with me.

[Duncan Trussell]

What?

[William Montgomery]

Seriously? So they're. Now we're having to go there.

[Duncan Trussell]

SS sxsw.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, SSXW is being a little weird being. Yeah, weird is one way to put it.

[Duncan Trussell]

What are they saying about the Bush boys? I mean, these are.

[William Montgomery]

They're like, well, seriously, we walk in there yesterday, we've already been in. Into this room. It's in a freaking hotel. It's like the most unprofessional thing ever. It's in this. Some room in a hotel, and they're saying, okay, do these guys know how to speak English?

[Duncan Trussell]

What?

[William Montgomery]

And I look at them.

[Duncan Trussell]

Who said that?

[William Montgomery]

And I think, what, did y'all not see the movie? I mean, they speaking English in the movie.

[Duncan Trussell]

The movie into their festival, and now they're like, yeah, it Sounds like a, an intern or.

[William Montgomery]

I hope, man. I don't really know what's going on because again, I think Miguel is already talking about he might leave. He's not even in for it anymore. And I'm like, dude, come on. Set by Southwest is just kicking off. Yeah, we're going to have a wonderful time. You're going to be the belle of the ball on, I think it's Tuesday. Next Tuesday. Yeah, for sure is when we're doing it. And I don't know that people are being horrible. They're being horrible to us.

[Duncan Trussell]

I mean, I guess that's the, the dark side of your, of your movie is just. It's sort of like. And you know, you forced me to confront that part of myself that does kind of think, you know, that to me when I, you know, like. So it's the scene I don't remember, I don't remember the neighborhood in Rio. But it's that scene where Miguel is on one of those E scooters going down the street and there's that. I don't know, he's like 22 year old dude in camo or whatever. And you know, he just is crazy. Leaps off the E scooter, tackles this dude. The dude like knows the bush boys. So he's like, no, Miguel, no. And then he yanks his camo pants down, yanks his underwear down and just spanks the shit out of him. And in the beginning, you know, the man seems like kind of terrified. He's crying. But by the end they hug. Yeah. Having a good time.

[William Montgomery]

He did the laughing thing again. I couldn't, I could never be spanked when I was on somebody's knees because I would start giggling too much and they thought it wasn't professional or whatever. Right. But yeah, this guy, especially in the movie. I'm glad you brought that up. It was a. That was kind of a moving part. Yes. Some bad boy. You can tell. Just bad boy. And the favelas of Brazil.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

And Miguel's able to pretty much immediately subdue him. Subdue him, get him on the right track.

[Duncan Trussell]

It reminds me of the dog whisperer.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Oh my God.

[Duncan Trussell]

You know, Cesar Milan comes in, you have like that snarling dog and then by the end the dog's just like in his lap. I mean, in this case that, you know, it's humans and the human is in Miguel's lap.

[William Montgomery]

And you have to be careful though, with the dogs because I had a good friend growing up whose father almost got killed by their Akita.

[Duncan Trussell]

No fucking way.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Started eating them, and then they had to get a gun out in the neighborhood in Memphis and shoot the dog.

[Duncan Trussell]

What do you mean, start eating him? Like, how much?

[William Montgomery]

Start trying to eat his ass. Got, like, some chunks of his leg, like, literally eating it. How the dogs hung.

[Duncan Trussell]

How old was the man?

[William Montgomery]

Probably 40.

[Duncan Trussell]

So what's his excuse like? I mean, it does kind of seem like you should be able to. I don't know too much about. Can you look up the average weight of the Akita?

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, I think an Akita is a pretty big one.

[Duncan Trussell]

Oh, they are.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, I think it's a pretty big one.

[Duncan Trussell]

I think I was thinking of a different dog.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, Akita's deadly. So if you are some sort of dog whiskey.

[Duncan Trussell]

Jesus, they're huge. Oh, no. I was thinking of, like, a Chihuahua. Oh, fuck. I've seen those around. They're scary.

[William Montgomery]

From Japan with that little.

[Duncan Trussell]

That little, like, happy fucking tongue. But they will eat your ass.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, they will eat your ass.

[Duncan Trussell]

Now, I. I know about these dogs, and what's interesting about these dogs, as opposed to wolves, pit bulls, you know, typical fighting dogs, the Akita only goes for, like, the ass.

[William Montgomery]

Yes.

[Duncan Trussell]

That is so weird because, you know, what purpose does that serve? You know, I get the throat, you rip out the juggler vein.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Killing the thing. Done.

[Duncan Trussell]

But the ass seems just mean.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, it seems mean because that's gonna take a while to kill. Whatever you're eating the ass of. If you're starting from the ass, they.

[Duncan Trussell]

Start from the ass.

[William Montgomery]

Yep.

[Duncan Trussell]

Holy man. So I'm sorry to cut you off. So continue with the story. So the Akita gnawing his ass, and then what happened?

[William Montgomery]

My. My person that I grew up with, we were in the same kindergarten class. He comes out there with the gun, the father screaming. They were big hunters, so they had guns around or whatever.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Dad screaming, getting literally his butt eaten by the cicada. Just out on the. Out on the driveway, just literally kind of bleeding out on the concrete. And my buddy, I think he's. I think we were maybe in transition at the time, which is in between kindergarten and first grade. He gets a shot on the dog, and he takes it, and the dog didn't immediately die.

[Duncan Trussell]

Did he keep biting while he was shot?

[William Montgomery]

Kept biting for a little. My friend had to shoot him another time. And then the dog doesn't die. It's still eating on his dad to shoot him again.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's like a zombie movie.

[William Montgomery]

Third one takes it down. Third one takes it. Three shots, Three shots. Three shots in just the midsection of the cicada finally brought this beast down.

[Duncan Trussell]

Was the Akita. Okay.

[William Montgomery]

I think they had to end up giving it to another family. I think they did. It was one of those situations. I think sometimes if dogs get shot or whatever, that's. They take him to the hospital. And I think this one actually was able to live and then I think actually found a nice family. But I don't want to think about that because my friend really went through a lot doing that. There was blood everywhere. The dad was almost dead. It's like, I thought they should have maybe just cut the dog's head off.

[Duncan Trussell]

What's so beautiful about people who rescue animals is that, you know, these creatures, that Akita, you know, what's the cr. You know? Yeah, he nod and ass. But it's like when you see a squirrel out there gnawing on a. On a acorn.

[William Montgomery]

Isn't that so sad, though, Duncan, shoot the squirrel. Isn't that so sad that squirrels can spend their entire spring and summer making little stashes of the acorns? And then when it comes winter time and they're hungry, they can't remember where their statues are. Oh, dude, that's like the saddest thing.

[Duncan Trussell]

I've been there, man.

[William Montgomery]

Really?

[Duncan Trussell]

You haven't been there where you don't remember where you, like, stashed your dope?

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, I guess I've lost. Yeah, well, yes, I guess I lose stuff all the time.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, it's. It's such a shitty feeling because, like, you know, somewhere right around the corner is like a portal to another dimension and you have no idea where it was or is. And then you gotta kind of think like, dude, it's probably a bad sign.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. And then you walk into your bedroom and you're like, why did I walk in here again?

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, what am I doing?

[William Montgomery]

What was I trying to do in here?

[Duncan Trussell]

What am I doing? What am I doing? The. I do want to give a shout out to my friend Carlton Fritz. Carlton Fritz runs. God, I'm so embarrassed. I can't remember this. Foster friends and so fosterfriends.com go check it out. Basically, he takes dogs that have attacked humans and been shot and puts them into foster homes.

[William Montgomery]

Oh, so he literally does that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

What?

[Duncan Trussell]

It's beautiful. Yeah. So he will go to, like, these dog hospitals, find dogs who have not just like gnawed asses, but ripped throats, you know, killed. And again, you know, it's like, dude, it's when you see the cow graze, are you like, kill the cow? Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

It's just a dog.

[Duncan Trussell]

It's a dog. It's doing what dogs do.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

And so he takes these dogs, picks them up after the surgery to remove the bullets or the. What sadly, sometimes knife wounds, sometimes fingernails in the eyes, whatever the fuck, takes them directly to foster care homes and nursing facilities and just opens the door and lets the dog in.

[William Montgomery]

That's probably sweet. And that's such a wonderful idea for the older folks homes because I think an old person probably loves dealing with the dog and probably has the. Probably able to really love on that dog and give it the kind of love that that dog needs. And what was the guy's name again? His first name was Foster Pritz. See? And Duncan. That's so fun. Whenever somebody's sad.

[Duncan Trussell]

No, I'm sorry. It's Sam Pritz.

[William Montgomery]

Oh, okay. Because I was saying, oh my gosh.

[Duncan Trussell]

Those are his nicknames. His real name's Sam Pritzker.

[William Montgomery]

Okay. Because I was thinking, oh my gosh, his name is Foster and he's ended up fostering stuff.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's always so cool. What's his nickname? We call him Foster, but his real name is. He's from the Pritzker family. We call him Sam Pritzker.

[William Montgomery]

Okay.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's his name. I mean, we do call him that because that's. Someone, I guess called him that when he was a baby and it stuck.

[William Montgomery]

Which is kind of funny.

[Duncan Trussell]

Legally stuck. But yeah, it's beautiful. Man, he is so busy. Because these dogs are constantly a certain breed. Certain breeds. Akita Pitbull, various dogs like that are constantly being.

[William Montgomery]

Constantly mauling people again. It's not really the dog's fault, though. It's the people's fault.

[Duncan Trussell]

Mauling who.

[William Montgomery]

Fair enough.

[Duncan Trussell]

And so they. Yeah, so he is so busy. And what I love about him is I'm like, don't you get to go in there and like, enjoy the. Watching this dog find its new home, Its forever home. Or watch the elderly or the children get a chance to like be. You know, give this thing the love it needs and have that love reciprocating. He's like, nope. He just opens the door and puts him right in.

[William Montgomery]

Sounds like somebody gets in his car. Santa Claus. Santa likes to leave his presence and go back up the chimney.

[Duncan Trussell]

He is like some kind of like a Santa Claus. Santa Claus for. For dogs, for wounded dogs. And it's so beautiful.

[William Montgomery]

I love that, man.

[Duncan Trussell]

I love that we're talking about this sweet stuff, man. I think it's from watching your film, man. I Just, it's like it makes it spring or maybe it's a combination of things.

[William Montgomery]

I know. It's so nice outside today. It's wonderful outside today. And yes, south by Southwest is going on. And the Bush boys and I will actually be at the chili's on 45th tonight. So we're actually doing some appear at different places. Yeah, the radio station, one of the local stations here has been announcing it, blasting it all day on the station. We're going to be at the Chili's tonight. They've never been to Chili's before, so I'm going to show them one of those good. Some good cheese dip.

[Duncan Trussell]

Holy shit, dude, they are going to.

[William Montgomery]

Freak the out some margaritas.

[Duncan Trussell]

Welcome to America, baby.

[William Montgomery]

I know, I know. So it's going to be a great time. But we do have to go back and talk to the people again to make sure everything's good for Tuesday because again, they don't trust the Bush boys. It's all. It's so funny. It's like they know better. It's like the ultimate form of racism. Like they know better.

[Duncan Trussell]

I need to bring this up. Let me bring this up. We can cut it. I know I don't do ambush style interviews, but just because I don't want to deal with the comments.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

And I think it is good to maybe see things from other people's point of view. Even though I do agree with you that what you're saying does smack over it racism. But the. Okay, so the Bush Boys. There's more to the story, of course, than there.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, there's more than we have talked about.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay. And so the Bush Boys. This episode of the DTFH is supported by my friends at Blue Chew. Yeah, I love Easter and I'll tell you why. Easter represents resurrection. Easter represents that first tendril of green growing from the soil that formerly was frozen dead. Most importantly, impotent. And bluechew. My God, bluechew. This is the only miracle you need that in Jesus. Whatever your particular access to the divine Godhead is. Bluechew works. That's the main thing. Look at me. You've known me for so long. My 50s, I got kids. Let's just face the facts, man. Sometimes you reach your hand into the tomb that is my underwear and nothing reaches back. There's no Lazarus down there. There's just a something sleeping. A nosferatu in the day, my wife calls it. Bottom line, bluechew works. I use it all the time. I subscribe, I pay for it. They send it to me in Little packets. I got a lot of them. Make life easier by getting harder and discover your options at bluechew. We've got a special deal for our listeners. Try your first month of BlueChew free. Visit bluechew.com for more details and important safety information. And we thank Blue Chew for supporting the podcast. Thank you, bluechew. They spent five years in prison out there for defiling corpses in a cemetery. I guess the, you know. Well, I mean, it's not a guess. They literally went into a graveyard and unearthed, like, a coffin and they. They did more. They did more than spank the corpse. They.

[William Montgomery]

Well, there's proof that they dug up the coffin. Correct. But I am going to stop you there. That's the only proof there is. There's only the proof that they defiled some corpses. There's nothing. So where were you going with that?

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, I mean, again, I just.

[William Montgomery]

This does feel like an ambush a little. Now I understand why you said that, because I was thinking, what is ambushing you?

[Duncan Trussell]

I'm trying to avoid having to go into the comment by comment and explain to them that I was aware of the prison term that they served for. I mean, there was.

[William Montgomery]

George Washington spent some time in the slammer. So I don't think it makes somebody automatically bad if they go to jail. Everybody deserves a second chance.

[Duncan Trussell]

It is different. George Washington, I think he went to jail for like, what, he stole a donkey or something, but stole a donkey.

[William Montgomery]

And went to jail for what, a year?

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, yeah, that was intense in early America. But I do. Listen, just let's deal with it. I think it's good. Just, you know, when you get a cut, just clean it out quick. So. And let's just. You do say, well, they were charged just with digging up the unearthing the casket, but also the semen samples and the hair and the beard of the corpse did match. The DNA matched every Bush boy. So it seems like they, at the very least jerked off in the beard of a corpse they unearthed.

[William Montgomery]

Well, that's a little different than it sounded like you were saying. Well, they actually just spanked him or whatever. So it sounds like what you just described a second ago is a little different.

[Duncan Trussell]

No, I mean, honestly, if I had to choose, like, if one of my relatives was gonna be unearthed by the Bush boys and I would like. You want them to jerk off on its face or spank it?

[William Montgomery]

What would you rather? What would you pick?

[Duncan Trussell]

Obviously, spank.

[William Montgomery]

Spank. This seems like a weird choice. You'd rather the Bush boys spank?

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, I Mean, I don't want the. I just don't like that image of, like, the bush boys laughing with their ripped fucking glutes standing over someone I loved, you know, mass. You know, pleasuring themselves into their hair or beard. That just seems.

[William Montgomery]

I mean, well, until you've experienced it come back to me, because I've actually experienced this.

[Duncan Trussell]

Can you actually say that? I don't think you should say that. We should probably cut that one. Do you know it's illegal, right?

[William Montgomery]

What part? What? Digging up a grave?

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, you can't do that. That is literally. That's like.

[William Montgomery]

They did it to one of my relatives. My poor freaking uncle.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, they did it to him. I think that I had to stand by and watch it.

[Duncan Trussell]

I'm interested to hear about it, but. Cause you're my friend and because they just got out of prison before you shot that movie, do you think that could, at the very least, maybe make it so they could potentially go back to prison?

[William Montgomery]

I mean, it's a double jeopardy situation. You can't do the. You can't get busted with the same crime twice.

[Duncan Trussell]

I think if you dig up a. If you go to. Okay, again, I don't do ambush interviews, but if you go to a cemetery, defile a corpse, go to jail, then leave jail.

[William Montgomery]

Okay, I got that partial.

[Duncan Trussell]

Go to a cemetery and defile, let's say, the same corpse. You dig up this. Yeah, you dig up the same corpse and defile it again.

[William Montgomery]

Same crime. Double jeopardy. It doesn't matter.

[Duncan Trussell]

I think it's still. It's like, okay, if I. Let's say I just pick a random house. I walk into the house, there's a very, like, I don't know, there's a teenage kid who lives there. I just punch him right in the fucking face. And then I go to jail for assault.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, I get charged for assault.

[Duncan Trussell]

As soon as I get out of jail, I drive right back to the house, knock on the door, and then punch him again.

[William Montgomery]

You don't get in trouble and see, maybe people don't need to be hearing this. Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

It's called double jeopardy. It's a thing in our law.

[Duncan Trussell]

Once you commit a crime, you can just keep commit after that, if you.

[William Montgomery]

Can do it again, I don't know how many times. I don't know. I don't know how many times. But I do know at least one other time. At least one other time you can go back. That's double jeopardy.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's so.

[William Montgomery]

It's in our constitution.

[Duncan Trussell]

Wow.

[William Montgomery]

Can't get Charged with the same crime twice.

[Duncan Trussell]

And you know what? Now that I think about it, George Washington got out of jail, and he inexplicably went and stole that exact same donkey.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, he was riding around. That's the donkey he was riding around on to start the freaking Revolutionary war. He was on that donkey.

[Duncan Trussell]

And that is probably why that's in the Double jeopardy is in the Constitution. Because they didn't want to arrest him twice. They knew they needed him on the field.

[William Montgomery]

They needed him on the battlefield. Now, at this point in time, George Washington was a really great general, so they needed his expertise against the Englishman. That had to have him.

[Duncan Trussell]

Fascinating.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

The history of this country is so interesting. Okay, let's get back to the Bush boys defiling your uncle's corpse. You were there.

[William Montgomery]

Well, it was kind of a weird night. Everybody was drinking. I had stopped drinking, but then I decided to drink at the time because they can be so forceful and also just so charming.

[Duncan Trussell]

Right.

[William Montgomery]

And I was thinking, oh, my gosh.

[Duncan Trussell]

Charismatic.

[William Montgomery]

This is probably never gonna happen again. I'll drink a little tonight. And then it turned into a bunch more, and I was wasted. And I just had flash. I just get these flashbacks. Duck. In getting to the cemetery.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

I pointed to them where the grave was. I told them why. It was part of the initiation.

[Duncan Trussell]

Okay.

[William Montgomery]

I told them. They look at me, they say, where are the shovels? And I say, nobody told me to bring any shovels. And then they start laughing, and they get shovels out of some bag behind one of them.

[Duncan Trussell]

That's like a.

[William Montgomery]

Pulling pranks. Yeah, they were doing that. And then one of them gets the pickaxe and starts doing it. And they're like, what, is there metal under this? And they all look at each other, and they look at me, and I'm like, what are you talking about? I thought it was just dirt or whatever. And then they start laughing again, and they're able to easily get the dirt out. And then they.

[Duncan Trussell]

Need to take a break.

[William Montgomery]

Well, they get them out of. They get him out of the casket and start paddling. One of them starts hitting him just so hard.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

I mean, and then says, wait, what did he just say? And then they all look at me, and then they all start laughing because we all know he's dead. But they're trying to act like, oh, he's. They're hitting him so hard, like he's alive. And he's saying, al, this hurts. So that I thought was a little weird.

[Duncan Trussell]

This is. Is like something they were ramping up.

[William Montgomery]

The jokes on me again as part of the initiation. It's like, you got to be tough. And I was able to get through it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Did you have them? I mean, it's. It's kind of a cruel joke because I think if that happened to me, I would have this moment of like, oh, my God, he's still alive.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, well, for a second I did. And that's why they start laughing. I, like, I'm kind of on the grass, on the dirt. It's kind of wet outside. I'm kind of slipping around kind of drunk. And they say, what are you just making noise? And I. They see me kind of pop up, and then that's when they start laughing because they saw that I thought.

[Duncan Trussell]

What was his name?

[William Montgomery]

Lee.

[Duncan Trussell]

Uncle Lee. I. I could see myself out there. Be like, uncle Lee, Uncle.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. And then. But I don't know. I mean, it's just a part of it. I mean, once you experience it for so many months on end, it's like abuse.

[Duncan Trussell]

I don't mean.

[William Montgomery]

Well, they were so nice once. I was on the other once. They said I was part of their group. I was really part of their group. I mean, it's. Again, I'd seen Miguel in a little bit of time, and it's like, I've seen him. It's like no time has passed. I mean, that's what happens when you get in a group like this.

[Duncan Trussell]

I mean, you could see. I mean, just based on everything you just said. And again, if you need us to cut that, you probably should talk to their lawyer or something. But double jeopardy, I kind of get it. If I'm south by Southwest in some sort of convicted, unrepentant, like, grave robbery, bankers are coming to the festival. I would feel a little trepidatious about what, you know, might happen.

[William Montgomery]

Well, you're forgetting, though. I mean, the. Just all the scenes in it with the necklaces at Carnaval. I mean, it really. People's lives are changing for the better. That's why I like when I watch people who see the film. I love watching just their faces. I don't even watch the film. I just sit in such a way where I can look at the crowd. And I just love watching everybody's faces. And there's little smiles sometimes, sometimes little tears, a couple sad parts. But it's really. People are really liking it, and I think that's why I hear what you're saying. I mean, it is kind of all crazy sounding a little bit. But people are loving it right now.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, and you Know, and I do think, like, another thread of wisdom in your incredible film is Soundtrack by Brian Eno, by the way. But another thread of wisdom in your incredible film is that, you know, these days, nobody's perfect.

[William Montgomery]

Nope.

[Duncan Trussell]

And the idea that people are sort of singularly good or singularly bad is what's gotten us in the trouble that we're in right now. For sure.

[William Montgomery]

There's a lot of gray area. There can be a lot of gray area in anything. Yeah.

[Duncan Trussell]

And I think that's a hard message right now for people because we want it. Lord of the Rings. Think of, like, Sora. No one talks about, you know, how sweet he probably was. I'm sure Sauron wasn't always doing the Eye above the tower and sending out the.

[William Montgomery]

I want it now.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, I'm sure he was like, there.

[William Montgomery]

Was days he wasn't always saying that. That would seem like a weird part of that movie. I want it now.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

It's like, dude, what? You're, like, powerful or something.

[Duncan Trussell]

Wait, I think you're thinking of Gollum.

[William Montgomery]

Oh, well, Gollum.

[Duncan Trussell]

Let's. Another example, like, you know, Gollum, Gollum. I'm sure, like, from time to time would see, like, a kid and be like, do you want a fish? Or, you know, I'm sure Gollum hungry. Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

It's probably sweet some of the time, but again, movies can portray people in weird lights. It's like it just makes them look like some freaking weird amphibian thing. Living in the freaking cave. In the water of the caves. It's like. Yeah. I mean, well, what about Gollum? He might. Could have things he wants to do in his life he wants to accomplish. He might have fears, he might have hopes. It's like, let's get to that story.

[Duncan Trussell]

Probably wants to go to college. Just wants it shot in an education.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. Wants to go to college. Freaking make some friends. Go to the cafeteria, see what the cafeteria is having tonight for dinner. Yeah, I love that. Versus looking for fish. I need my fish.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Probably wants to do stuff other than that. And that's why I got without a bike.

[Duncan Trussell]

He probably just wants one day on a bike with his mom again, you know, just like, just. I'm sure there's so many. Just little things, but this doesn't get. They don't show that in Lord of the Rings. You just. The hobbits are good. Gollum's a slimy little shit that you feel sorry for. And then he gets fried in a volcano. Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

It's horrible.

[Duncan Trussell]

And that is leading to problems in Our world. Because it's like the answer. If you're with some slimy fucking shit thing that is monolithically bad, yeah, sure, toss it in a fucking caldera, boil it alive, whatever. But it's like, don't act. I would love to see the scenes that didn't make it into Lord of the Rings. I'd love to see the scenes in that documentary where they showed Gollum at the grocery store.

[William Montgomery]

Gollum, you know, messing up his lines and everybody starts laughing. Why didn't they do any of that?

[Duncan Trussell]

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[William Montgomery]

But in documentaries, can't they still have the like outtakes like that where it's like he says something they don't expect and they all kind of laugh and they're like, okay, cut it.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[William Montgomery]

I can't use this. Everybody's laughing.

[Duncan Trussell]

Gollum seems like, yeah, he probably just.

[William Montgomery]

Like, he's probably hilarious.

[Duncan Trussell]

I bet he's funny. He probably does armpit farts and stuff. He probably cracks people.

[William Montgomery]

He could probably do it with his legs. I remember going to school with one kid one time who's like, watch this. And he does his pants down and then he does his, his hands in his, the armpits of his legs, behind the knee and he's doing rapid fire fart noises. Yup. There was, I'll never forget that.

[Duncan Trussell]

There's this kid at my school who for the longest time we thought he was doing rapid fire, just armpit farts. And everyone tried to duplicate it. We could never do it. I mean, it was crazy. It was like techno right before the Drop. And he was actually just farting.

[William Montgomery]

Oh, really?

[Duncan Trussell]

He was doing like some kind of like, you know, like fake armpit fart. And he would do it through his shirt and we'd be like, how the fuck are you doing that? But he was like farting. He could like rapid. He.

[William Montgomery]

Damn.

[Duncan Trussell]

He had an undulating intestinal lining is what it was called. But basically it was like segmented. And he could open individual segments and let each bubble of gas, like he called it loading the chamber.

[William Montgomery]

Damn. So he could load a bunch in there at the same time.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, technically it was one fart, but.

[William Montgomery]

Did it smell horrible?

[Duncan Trussell]

And we just thought he didn't use deodorant or whatever, but it smelled, I mean, like shit, it smelled horrible. But yeah, later on we found out.

[William Montgomery]

That like, oh my gosh, he's actually farting. That's why it stinks.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, yeah. Didn't find out till the funeral.

[William Montgomery]

He's doing at the funeral?

[Duncan Trussell]

No, no, he. So basically what happened is none of us were popular in high school. And he certainly wasn't just classic kind of dorky nerd, bitch pussy. He, you know, people were always bullying him and being really mean to him, you know, because he was weak, he's a little pussy ass bitch and didn't know how to fight or stick up for himself. So people were so mean to him. It was horrible. People would like just say rotten things to him and because he's a little fucking chicken shit coward.

[William Montgomery]

He sounds like a bitch.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah, he's a bitch. Super bitch. Like verifiably nerd, dork, douche, stupid. And you know, but I loved him, you know, I loved his little dumbass and I guess just if only everybody was kind to him, like I was his fucking stinky ass. But bottom line, when people started catching on, he could do this kind of farting thing. He got this weird kind of popularity. And the quarterback, badass dude, Jakes. That's what we called him, Jakes. Yeah, he got pissed off at the kid because the kid, you know, of course Jenks was dating the ED cheerleader. She's beautiful, beautiful, really sweet girl. And she was somehow fascinated by this, his farting. And with like, they started hanging out. Lunch.

[William Montgomery]

Uh, oh, I see where this is going.

[Duncan Trussell]

I see where it's going. And so basically Jenks hired a private investigator to follow this kid around to figure out how he's getting like all the gas he's doing the farts and figured out he's coming from his ass. And the kid every morning was eating like literal cat food. Because it makes you gassy as hell. What?

[William Montgomery]

The little bitch dude was eating cat food?

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Yuck.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, dude, I mean, this explains his fucking shitty breath and his fucking stupid teeth. But anyway, this little bitch was eating cat food in the morning to, like, load up farts and jinx.

[William Montgomery]

What an idiot, dude.

[Duncan Trussell]

Disgusting. Disgusting piece of shit. And so Jenks, you know, like a warrior who fucking took our team, like, all the way to finals, Basically, he hires his private investigator with his own fucking money, finds out what's going on, replaces Jenks fucking cat food with. With, like, cat food that doesn't cause gas. And then at the talent show, he'd eaten a bunch of this stuff and went up there and he's just flapping his stupid little puny arm.

[William Montgomery]

No farts are coming out.

[Duncan Trussell]

No farts are coming out. And you know how it went from. You know what happened after that?

[William Montgomery]

Damn.

[Duncan Trussell]

I know.

[Josh]

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[William Montgomery]

Hi, I'm Matt.

[Duncan Trussell]

And I'm Leah. And we're from the Grown Up Stuff podcast.

[Josh]

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[Duncan Trussell]

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[William Montgomery]

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[Duncan Trussell]

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[William Montgomery]

Then Jake's killed him.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, Jinx didn't kill him. He just withered away after that. Like, he just.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, that would be devastating.

[Duncan Trussell]

Everyone was booing him and, like, calling him a charlatan and a false prophet.

[William Montgomery]

Well, he should have known. I'm sure the cat food maybe looked a little different. Like, was it a fancy family nerd.

[Duncan Trussell]

Glasses, like, look like bottle caps.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, just a nerd. So he just up, up.

[Duncan Trussell]

He reaped the Whirlwind, basically. But, yeah, dude, it was. You know, I still think about him. Yeah, he was a little piece of shit, but, like, he was my bro.

[William Montgomery]

Do you think you would have liked the movie about the bush boys?

[Duncan Trussell]

He had, like, severe adhd. Like, he couldn't. I doubt he would.

[William Montgomery]

So he probably wouldn't even sit through a movie.

[Duncan Trussell]

And even if he probably get thrown out of fear because he smelled like shit. Like, he smelled horrible. I mean, he's eating cat food and farting, like, for popularity is.

[William Montgomery]

I was next to somebody a couple days ago, Doug, and they did the worst fart ever. And I wanted. I was so angry.

[Duncan Trussell]

Where were you?

[William Montgomery]

I was working out. I've been working out a little. And I'm so. I'm stuck on the row machine. No, man, I'm stuck on it because I gotta get through it. And then I start smelling just the worst fart smells. So then I start looking out of the corner of my eyes, I'm like, who the is doing this? And I think I found the culprit. I didn't have any. I didn't have the nerve to call him out, but it was sickening.

[Duncan Trussell]

Dude, those protein farts.

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. They're not good because I've been drinking protein shakes. And now to counteract that, I have to drink prune juice as well because the protein shakes are messing up my tummy, so I can't always do or whatever. So then I drink, like, probably way too much prune juice. I get a big cup, and I fill it up like, three fourths of the way, and I chug that stuff.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

And it is. Whoo. It is a situation in about 30 minutes after that situation, for sure. Oh, it's wonderful.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

And it's like a. It's like a sweet kind of. It's an interesting thick. Yes. Soft. Sweet.

[Duncan Trussell]

Yeah.

[William Montgomery]

Kind of juice that you drink. Oh, it's so good. I was gonna do it before this, but I couldn't. It would not have worked out.

[Duncan Trussell]

You think it activates that quickly?

[William Montgomery]

Yeah, it can be, like 30 minutes. But then sometimes I hold it on purpose because I'm like, how tough can I be today? And I can't hold it for many hours after that.

[Duncan Trussell]

Josh, would you mind pulling up a picture of a prune?

[William Montgomery]

And they're not made from. Prunes are, weirdly enough, not from. Made. Made from grapes. I. I grew up thinking, oh, a prune is a dried grape.

[Duncan Trussell]

How do you juice a dried. How do you juice. Can you. I'm sorry, Josh. Can you pull up how to juice Juice a prune.

[William Montgomery]

Maybe they stick them in a if.

[Duncan Trussell]

It'S dried, that technically means it doesn't have juice, right? Peel the prunes. Remove the pits. Put them in a high sided pot, adding water, sugar and lemon juice. Bring to a boil and let simmer for 10 minutes, stirring slowly. Add 3 grams of sugar and 4 tablespoons of salt. Mix that together with apple cider vinegar. Then put a decanted wine in a beaker next to it. Distill the decanted wine into the pot. Rotate the pot three times per hour. Make sure to rotate the pot or the prune juice will spoil. After the juice is collected in the pot, bring it outside during a full moon and then collect dew from the air into a dew catching net. Squeeze the net into the pot so it's not even prune juice, it's just dew.

[William Montgomery]

So I think that answered my my question. I always had a question of why in the heck is prune juice so expensive? I guess that's my answer.

[Duncan Trussell]

Jesus fucking Christ. That's some alchemical shit. I just like, like I've always wondered like how are they juicing a dried ass prune?

[William Montgomery]

Yeah. And now you have a bunch of.

[Duncan Trussell]

Other shit in there. It's apple cider vinegar and dew and fairy dust.

[William Montgomery]

It's stuff, but it works. But it's like $8 a bottle and I'm getting like three good cups in one bottle.

[Duncan Trussell]

So do you think you can collect moonlight and turn it into gold?

[William Montgomery]

I think with the right. I think maybe 50 years from now we'll be able to answer that question a lot easier. I think yes, 75 years maybe.

[Duncan Trussell]

Well, thanks so much. Thanks for coming on the show.

[William Montgomery]

Thank you.

[Duncan Trussell]

The. Are you serious? You really think that that was William Montgomery, everybody make sure that you download, stream or go see it live in theaters. Bush Boys Adventures at Carnival. An incredible yet controversial film. And even though the history of the Bush Boys is a little weird, it opened my eyes to the beauty of love. I will see you guys next week. Until then, Hare Krishna.

[Josh]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Stock up sale is on now, which means you can save big on all your favorite essentials throughout the store. Stock up on participating items and earn four times points to redeem for your discounts on groceries or gas. Now through March 25th. Save by shopping in store or online for participating items from your favorite brands like Pampers, Dove, Band Aid, Playtex and Premier protein. Offer ends March 25th. Promotions may vary. Restrictions apply. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.