Josh (12:07)

None of these claims have been verified.

Duncan Trussell (12:08)

None of these claims have been verified. But this will wipe. You won't get as much aluminum in your stinky, stinky body. And also, why take a shower anymore? There's a water shortage everywhere and this will save gallons. Billions of an ocean of water will be saved by full body deodorant. So use offer code chemicalwipe and you'll get 15% off your first crate. They only sell them by the crate. Hmm. Now on to more pressing issues. Can you. Josh, will you pull up on YouTube just a video of power out in Portugal? I don't know if you guys saw this or not, but for those listening, we're going to pull up power outage in Portugal. Look at this shit. Pull up any of these. Pull up the dark one. Breaking. A major power outage has been reported in Spain and Portugal including their capitals. The countries have a combined population over 50 years. Power outage has been reported in Spain and Portugal including their capitals. The countries have a combined population of over 50 million people. It is not immediately clear how many people are affected. We did have some video from earlier today in regards to that power outage at the latest. Here is the fact that the Spanish power distributor Red Lights out said that restoring power falls lead to the country and neighbor could take six to eight hours. By mid afternoon, voltage was progressively being restored in the north, south and west of the peninsula according to the company. Company also declined to speculate on the causes of the huge. Why? What does it matter? National Cybersecurity Center Will you pause it for a second? Hey, look, why worry about what caused this shit? We just weren't going to get the power back on, not think about what happened. But. And you know, I don't know where this came from, but initially they were saying it was an atmospheric. What Anomaly? Is what they said an atmospheric anomaly. Oh shit. I don't Think they could hear your video? You guys didn't hear the video? That sucks. Next time I'll narrate it. Can you guys hear me now? Hello? It's showing up on the streaming thing. Oh, they can hear me now. Good. Anyway, look, you didn't need to hear that. It's, you know, classic news. There was a blackout in Spain and Portugal. There's no power. We don't know what's happening. They don't. They don't know what's happening. But these sorts of things, I think are worth spending a little time putting your attention on. Not to scare yourself, not to freak yourself out, but more to remind all of us that this long form massive multiplayer online role playing game that we call human civilization is prone to breaking down at random times. And I think that's good to think about. I mean, it's not necessarily to get your amygdala squirting, which is fun, we'll all admit it, but more to direct all of us to the impermanent nature of everything in this particular little moat of time space we all find ourselves sharing. And that is maybe why I don't like commercials. Maybe that's why TV bugs the shit out of me so much. Because there is in the sort of never ending invitation for you to buy something like full body deodorant, and also in the sort of, I don't know, editorialization that comes from reporters. And not just that, the aesthetic, you know, this kind of polished, put together conveyors of what's happening today in game space. There's a sense of like, permanence. There's an implicit kind of like, here is what a healthy, well put together person looks like. Anderson Cooper. Sean Hannah Foreign this episode of the DTFH has been brought to you by BetterHelp. Listen, you basically got rocketed out of a vagina not that long ago. We all know how old the universe supposedly is. 13.7 billion years. Though with the new James Webb telescope data coming in, it could be much older than that. We don't know. But the point is, relative to universal time, you're essentially a flicker, just a flickering sentient thing having to traverse the hyper complex, hyper connected landscape that we're all existing in. You're no hunter gatherer. You're living in the modern age, pre singularity and all. That's just to point out that more than likely you're confused. Something is confusing, some repeating pattern, some aspect of yourself that you seem to be at odds with. Something that happened to you during the tiny flickering amount of Time you plopped out of your sweet mama's vajayjay into time space. I speak from experience when I say therapy. One of the greatest things that I ever did. And yet for me it was slightly humbling. Why? Because I like to fantasize that I have an impenetrable perfect psyche that though other people seem to be troubled by what's going on internally. Not me. No, no, no. Essentially the John Wayne of psyches. If there was a Jungian archetype, that's me, John Wayne, impervious to all those things that seem to bother others. Of course, that's a lot of bullshit. Went to therapy, didn't take forever. And after that, a lot of the strange things that I was contending with, they didn't go all the way away, but 90% less. And I'll take that. Therapy's great. And BetterHelp solved a tremendous issue that a lot of us have when it comes to therapy, which is driving your ass to the therapist's office. That's a million excuses you can come up with to not go. BetterHelp makes it easy. With BetterHelp you pay a flat fee for weekly sessions, saving you big on cost and on time. It's accessible, should be accessible. With online therapy, you get quality care at a price that makes sense and can help you with anything from anxiety to everyday stress. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally. It's convenient too. 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And when the power goes out in 50 million people are affected by that. And they're not sure why, which means they can't say why it. They definitely know why there's no way that power goes out for 50 million people. And they're like, I have no idea. Did someone hit the switch? There's no switch, is there? I don't think there is. In the power station. Is there like some right next to the light switch? Something that turns the power off completely? No. Meaning that they, you know, obviously. I mean, maybe I'm just assuming. I've never been in a power station, but I'm assuming if you're running a power station, you have granular data about everything that's happening. Because all of whatever civilization you're like, supplying power to kind of depends on your power to keep playing the game the way we play it. So, you know, and that's creepy. It would almost be better if they said it's demand. There is too much demand or any other reason. And maybe they'll come out with some reason. But the fact they're not instantly saying they this is why it happened, that's way more ominous. Because that means either one, they're lying. They do know some crazy shit happened and they can't say they were hacked. It was a solar flare, some kind of weird emp, who knows? Or maybe even worse. They just don't know. Maybe even worse. Who knows, Maybe our galaxy is just drifting into some part of the universe where electricity doesn't work the same way. It's some kind of three body problem. Shit, who knows, Maybe physics is changing. Maybe someone at CERN fucked up and like destabilized some fundamental aspect of physics. Who knows? That is scarier than having an explanation because that means at any moment the lights just go out. And this is of course, what, what the conspiracy family calls the great reset. Which is, you know, I guess their view of it is that there's, you know, a small group of like elite people who look out at the world and recognize, oh no, no, no, this is terrible. We gotta reset this control alt. Delete this motherfucker. We got to figure it out. And they just want to like, just, let's start over. We'll turn the power off for a year, and at the other side of that year, they'll come running to us, begging for our help. But we'll just kind of like ghost them for a year, let them work out what no power is like. Let them understand what they actually are, just pathetic gerbils in some technological gerbil aquarium. Skittering around. They don't even know what. When the. When the stoplights don't work, they don't know what to do. They don't know how to do anything. These are. These are. These are history majors. They don't know how to start a fire. They don't know how to run a generator. They don't know how to solder. They don't know how to fix anything. They don't know how to sew. They definitely don't know how to fight. They have no idea, most of them, how to do anything. So let's just cut the fucking power out. And whoever's still around at the end of that year, they can participate in the new civilization. Now that's. I don't buy that, actually. Do you believe that, Josh?

Josh (24:46)

Well, Klaus Schwab warned of a cyber pandemic.

Duncan Trussell (24:50)

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. And this is of course, in the sort of. I don't know what you would call it in the conspiracy aesthetic. There's an idea that they let you know first and then they do it. It's almost like some kind of weird vampire law. Like a vampire only goes where they're invited. They seem to have some kind of lawful evil style code. And within that code they transmit their next moves. Not cause they want to, but because for some reason it gives them a way out. They could just sort of shrug and be like, I mean, we told you. Or you know, it's like the parable in the Bible. Let him who has ears to listen hear. You know, this sort of encoded, like, we are gonna give a shot to people who are lucid enough out there to realize that what's happening is a process which we're all participating in. And part of that process separates the good seeds from the bad seeds. And the idea is, in this refining process, we end up with increasingly more harmonious forms of civilization that make more sense. But sort of the Internet, this coalescing of micro audiences, this losing of the microphone via technology that used to be the crucial mechanism of control, has put them in a very terrible situation that they're not sure what to do about that. Because you're not supposed. You're supposed to have the well put together dude in a suit, you're supposed to have the lady in a cocktail dress, you're supposed to have, I don't know, Wolf fucking Blitzer all grumpy and serious, saying this is what's real and this is what's not. But the moment they lose power, then, and you've got all kinds of people like my yappy ass. I could just do this. This is not possible. Fifteen years ago it was, but it would be very expensive. And so, holy fuck, what do we do? Everything's now just this madness. We're looking at, like, you know, default reality itself is splitting, fractalizing. So now you have all these various reality tunnels people are living in, and these reality tunnels seem to be growing further and further apart. So essentially, people are living in parallel universes based on whatever data set that they are habituated to, absorbing more than whatever other data set. You've got the TikTok universe, that's the drama universe, where people are embroiled in some kind of opinions regarding some influencer's latest misstep. Then you've got the geopolitical default reality, which is populated by people who have very strong opinions about, you know, who. Who should be the president, who should be the prime minister of Canada, who don't live in Canada. That's the craziest shit. You've got non Canadians, like, watching these elections, like, oh, fuck. Like you're not in Canada. What do you give a fuck? That's not even your. That's not your country. But it means more than that. So you've got those people, and those people have, like, hardcore opinions regarding geopolitics. So that's a reality tunnel. And then you've got a million other reality tunnels. There's fandoms. Various fandoms. People completely obsessed and absorbed into video games or music. And these things are just breaking apart. So there's people walking around living in completely different universes based on what data they have and what data they don't have. And this is producing a schizoid kind of culture where. Where. Where what used to bring us all together. That's not even happening. Movies. Oh, my God. Summertime blockbusters. You would go to the movie theater. Everybody's talking about some fucking movie. Footloose. I remember Footloose. That's how old I am. Did you ever see Footloose?

Josh (29:22)

I saw some of the dancing, the choreography. I enjoyed it.

Duncan Trussell (29:27)

Kevin Bacon.

Josh (29:28)

Yep.

Duncan Trussell (29:29)

Kevin Bacon. Footloose. Footloose. The story of Footloose. It's some fucking town, I think, where it's illegal to dance. That's what is that First Amendment violation or is that Second Amendment?

Josh (29:41)

First?

Duncan Trussell (29:42)

That's a First Amendment violation. You can't make it illegal to dance. But Kevin Bacon didn't take the law angle. Kevin Bacon took the, like, let's live life angle. Goes into this fucking town and gets A bunch of idiots to take dance and everything's better. Ram, Ram. Gary Lee Hoskins. But the point is, packaged within the summer blockbuster was an entire menu, kind of an aesthetic for the summer. This is what we're going to be wearing. This is what we're going to be listening to. This is how we are responding to some perceived, like, negative aspect of the culture. I guess Footloose is like a pushback against in what in those days were like classic puritanical conservative ideals. This is right around the time of the satanic panic, I believe. So in those days, conservatives were not what they are now. In those days, conservatives were very judgmental, puritanical, exclusionary warmongers, basically.

Josh (30:51)

Nancy Reagan.

Duncan Trussell (30:52)

Nancy Reagan. Thank you. War on drugs. And so fucking Kevin Bacon comes in jiggling all over the place, and that represents the new thing coming in. We're going to push back against these old crusty fucking fascist pieces of shit, and we're going to do it non violently through dancing. And so then everywhere you went, you would hear footloose, Footloose, everybody ever loose? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was the summer hit. And people would start acting like Kevin Bacon. That was the craziest thing about it. Whatever character, the lead in these summer blockbusters, whatever the way they were acting, would actually inform behaviors. It would become a meme. We didn't even have the word back then, but all of a sudden people are dressing like Kevin Bacon. People are like, you know what? Maybe we should go dancing. And this would be the way that Hollywood would sort of influence culture. Brands would get wrapped up in there too. Part of the way they funded these blockbusters was, you know, having this brand or that brand show up in the coolest scene. You know, yeah, I drink Coke. And so that was the way you shape the cultural clay. And now no one's fucking going to movies anymore. And if they are, they're not going to the same movies. It's not happening anymore. It's not really happening. The Minecraft movie is like the best example I've seen of what used to be normal. You didn't have the chicken jockey thing, but still it was like, that is an example. I mean, everyone's like, oh my God, chicken jockey. They're freaking out in the movie. But that used to just be like that. Maybe it wasn't chicken jockey and people wouldn't freak out at movies. But for, for sure, behavior was influenced. Whatever the pop morality was at the time, there was some commentary on it and people would change Behaviors based on what they saw. And it was a kind of teaching. The intelligentsia would come up with a ridiculous story within which was some kind of parable which inevitably directed the herd. Animals make up the west. And how they should, like, where they should graze, how they should fuck, what they should look like. And all of that is just being diffused now. And so it's a nervous breakdown. We don't have the metronome anymore. We used to have. There's a million different metronomes. They're all at different BPMs. And people are like. If you ask me, and this is probably not true, but if I had to roll the dice, the horror. If you're a powerful person who issues decrees, and that's what powerful people do, they decree things. It's part of having power. You issue decrees and. Which is nuts. It's just a person. And God, when you get to be like, my age, you really do start recognizing these are just fucking people. But they issue a decree, and they do it with a kind of power imbued upon them by, in our case, democracy. And so they issue a decree that is more important than other people issuing a decree. For example, if I say we really, really need to pay attention to what's happening in Iran right now, it is very important to understand that we will not allow Iran to have nuclear weapons. No one gives a shit. I could say that at a bar. No one gives a shit. No one cares. But if one of the great decreers says it, it's everywhere. And we're like, oh, my God, we're about to go to war with Iraq. So that's what they do. They issue decrees. We listen to it. They come out and they say, this is a new law. And we listen to it. I guess it's a new law. But the horror of, I think hierarchical power structures is not losing power in the way we think a coup or losing an election or something like that. There's another thing that could happen, which I don't think has ever happened in the history of revolutions, which is just, you stop listening to him. You don't give a shit anymore. It's like the wizard of Oz moment. You're like, I don't know what you're talking about. And I guess I have to take you seriously, because if I don't, the dudes in the stormtrooper outfits come out and spray poison in my face. But if people just stop taking them as seriously as the decreers need us to take them seriously, and if that starts happening because there's so many other data sets and other things become more important than them, then the entire framework of power just dissolves. And then what? Chaos, Anarchy reigns. So that's a long way of talking about this reason for the Great reset. We should turn the fucking power off, man. Just shut it all down. Let's do it. Let's fucking shut it down. Let's stop giving them access to this tech that's allowing them to have conversations that aren't informed by what we need them to be paying attention to. And I get it. I mean, that's a really brand new problem that's never happened before. Never happened to kings. I mean, it would. You would gather in the basement of some inn and you would mutter some conspiratorial shit, and then the king's guard would come in and burn your ass or put you in an iron maiden. So that's one of the theories regarding the power outage, is it's a test run. You've seen that.

Josh (36:55)

Yeah.

Duncan Trussell (36:56)

Where do you get your conspiracies? Where are you getting your conspiracies from?

Josh (37:00)

My Twitter algorithm is pretty full of conspiracies. And yeah, I think the great reset, they have to turn off the grid so we can't get to our bank accounts. And there needs to be a reason why you can't get to bank account. Or maybe the people in Portugal, just all of them didn't pay their electric bill. That could be it too. It could be their fault.

Duncan Trussell (37:18)

Yeah, I think that's probably the second one is what happened for sure. Definitely didn't have anything to do with a test run to see what you do. I guess that is a great preventative measure. If there's a run on the banks, you just turn the power off and then you don't have to say, well, we don't have any more money in there. You could just be like, dude, the ATMs are down. Come back tomorrow when the power's back on.

Josh (37:38)

Well, if the FDIC had a meeting and it's on YouTube, you can find it where it said that they're not calling the bail out, they're calling it a bail in. So if you have over $250,000, the FDIC does not cover that in your bank. So if you have a million dollars, you can lose $750,000 and then that is used to pay off the debt of the country. Bail in.

Duncan Trussell (37:58)

Ah, bail in. I feel good. That's. You know, and also the thing about that is just because statistically most people are gonna be like that Sounds fucking awesome. There's not gonna be a great outcry from the majority of people when that. What's the average median income in the United States?

Josh (38:18)

48,000.

Duncan Trussell (38:19)

48,000. So if that's the average median income, you're not gonna get a big pushback to the buy in. It's just like, yeah, great, Redistribute the wealth. That's the most clever way of redistributing the wealth of all time.

Josh (38:30)

But then you get a digital currency, and that digital currency tells you, hey, you're fat. You can't get McDonald's again, so they can cut off what you can purchase.

Duncan Trussell (38:38)

I mean, is that so bad? I would like it to just be like, no, that's great. If there's some AI that's like, hey, we're not going to In N Out burger today, dude. It's not going to work. There some PDSM submissive part of me like, all right, I guess you're right. Can't keep eating in and out. So that's the one take. Now the other take is way, way creepier. The Great Reset falls under the umbrella of the evil control system. So there is some kind of puppeteer running the show or a group of puppeteers running the show. And even though that is horrible to imagine and nobody would want to think that, but it seems pretty logical to some degree. It's like in that Paul Simon song, something like a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires. Like, yeah, of course. Like people who control the weapons, the shipping routes, the ships, the technology. These people are going to have more influence than others. And so whether or not that's like the Illuminati or not, they probably wouldn't even call themselves that. They just happen to be people who have in their cell phone the phone numbers of heads of state for 20 different countries. And they could actually just call them up and be like, hey, what the fuck is this? Are you serious? And they're like, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, but here's why. And this is what's. That's what they mean. But within that umbrella of conspiracy theories, there's comfort because there's a sense of like, well, you know, people are still controlling things. There's a human control element there that, you know, that's not. You know, if you look at history, that's not always the best thing. But still, it's not so chaotic, it's not so random. Then once you waddle out from under your embarrassing umbrella that you think you're edge lording you're like, you've connected the dots, dots. You've gone down the rabbit hole. You understand what it is? It's the World Bank. It's. It's digital currency. It's a collaboration between Bill Gates and eugenicists and Israel and whatever. Once you step out from under that, that's where you get to the real shit. And that stuff is, is to me, like probably more likely and much more terrifying, which seems, you know, you don't have to be Alex Jones to recognize that there are craters on this planet like that are there? Because like a mountain fell out of the fucking sky. And you don't have to be some kind of like, you don't have to be David Icke to recognize that the entirety of everything we know as civilization is if you go upstream from electricity, you get to the sun. Oh my God. And we know the sun is on cycles. And we also know that we only have a limited amount of data regarding how the sun behaves. I mean, people could talk about solar flares. We know there was. Can you look up solar flare takes out. What's that? Big solar flare incident. Solar flare takes out power grid. But it actually happened. There was a huge solar flare. Yeah, just look up that, see what comes up. Yeah, look up the Carrington event. I don't know if you guys can see this. I'm going to read it. The Carrington event was the most intense geomagnetic storm in recorded history, peaking on the 1st to 2nd of September during solar cycle 10. It created strong auroral displays that were reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph states. The geomagnetic storm was most likely the result of a coronal mass ejection from the sun colliding with Earth's magnetosphere. The geomagnetic storm was associated with a very bright solar flare on 1st September, 1859. It was observed and recorded independently by British astronomer Richard Carrington and Richard Hodgson. I wonder if Richard Hodgson was like, this is bullshit. This is a Hodgson event. You know, that's the kind of luck I have. You know, he was just a little late in reporting this shit. And then Carrington gets all the credit. A geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts and damage to the electrical power grid. So this is where my brain goes to when things like that happen in Portugal, and especially look up anomalous atmospheric event Portugal, because this is what was reported, what I saw. Anomalous atmospheric event. Atmospheric event. See if you can find that. Portugal. Put Portugal there. You're gonna get a bunch of shit for that. Oh, yeah, yeah, play that. See if they say it. Rare atmospheric phenomena behind huge outages. This might cut my audio off, guys. I don't know. Essential cookies. Don't accept all. You mad? I'm in a tent with my brother. This is great. I'm gonna eat some popcorn and voting with my admin. Now we're drunk. I got nothing for you. I transported from Grill, and I love to grill. Are you grilling? Skip that shit.

Josh (44:55)

National grid operator says that a rare atmospheric phenomenon is behind a major power.

Duncan Trussell (45:01)

Outage that's affected large parts of that country as well as Spain. Footage from the Spanish capital Madrid shows.

Josh (45:07)

Chaotic scenes at Junction.

Duncan Trussell (45:09)

Okay, good. You could just stop it. Did our audio go out, you guys? Yeah. That's creepy, right? Y'all Rare atmospheric phenomena now. That's pretty much the last thing you want to hear when there's a blackout of that fucking magnitude. You don't want to hear that. Rare atmospheric phenomena, but they don't say what it was. They don't say what it was. What rare atmospheric phenomena was a flock of Pegasi. What happened, man? Tell us. When you say rare atmospheric phenomena, that could mean a million fuck witches, just like a billion witches on broomsticks flew over Portugal and Spain. What does it mean, a rare atmospheric phenomena? Zero explanation for what they said Now, I mean, that just could mean that whoever's running the power grid out there is very smart. I was like, just say it's a rare atmospheric phenomena, not that we flipped the wrong switch, but. Whoa, that is crazy. Now, I looked into this. Apparently, there wasn't any kind of, like, solar activity that day that would point towards the sun being behind it, which then. Okay, if that's not the case, if it wasn't some kind of solar flare, then what was it?

Josh (46:39)

Haarp, Russia has these planes that, when they fly over you, they do MPs, and it'll shut down everything below you.

Duncan Trussell (46:47)

Yeah, that's. You know, that's where you get into some kind of EMP electromagnetic pulse. But I do think if you do an emp, it damages tech. It doesn't just shut the power off. EMPs are going to fry out everything. So if an EMP happens, your phone will not work anymore. Even if the power comes back on, it fries out motherboards and stuff. So probably not an emp, but, you know, whatever the fuck it was, you would think they would say what it was. And then this is where you sort of dive into like another conspiracy theory, which I'm fascinated by, which is that when you get information like that, which is. A normal thinking person would. You would. When you hear something like that, you expect. And that rare atmospheric phenomena was. But it doesn't come. It leaves this kind of, like, tension. And there is a theory that that's all on purpose, that the control systems are intentionally creating a wobbly data realm to make all of us feel really insecure all the time and stupid. Because the other implicit thing this is good to think about that too is like, what are they implying when they say stuff? Because when you say rare atmospheric phenomena and don't say what it is, you're basically saying, I think my viewers are idiots. They're not gonna wanna know. They probably don't even know what phenomena means. Why go on. Let's just show people at a roundabout who seem confused and just keep moving forward. So whatever the fuck happened, especially based on the shit that's happening with Russia and everything, and the tariffs and the rising global tension and it all. It all fits into an aesthetic that seems to be emerging this year in the world. And that aesthetic is the aesthetic of instability. That's pretty much across the board. What we're getting. We're getting all of these seemingly disparate events that all share something in common, which is instability. You get. Like, for example, right now, there's the conclave where they're picking out a new pope. So we're in between popes right now. A relatively rare event. Diadon, Gary, thank you so much. If you guys give me money and I miss saying it. I'm really sorry, Josh. Will you alert me when that happens?

Josh (49:29)

I got this one right here. KT Videos.

Duncan Trussell (49:32)

KT Videos is saying, I don't know what I did to my chat GPT, but it's very confident humanity will collapse within 60 months. Not to Mad Max levels, but be unrecognizable and not what we think. ChatGPT just, you know, probably on a bender. Probably hadn't slept in a few days.

Josh (49:53)

And there's this one, too.

Duncan Trussell (49:55)

And wait. RIP Rest in peace, Uriel Septim vii. We might have to. I don't know who I. Who that is. Gary Lee Haskins. If it's a friend or someone connected to you, but please don't let that be some kind of white supremacist dude. Have you looked into sky watchers yet? No. Is that a show? Anyway, the point is, it's instability across the board. You've got every single thing that's happening right now, at least at the public data watering holes, is just instability. Everything is like, sending a message of like, we don't know what the fuck's going to happen. And this is a little different. It's always like that, of course, but usually there's a general sense of a plan or something. Right now, it feels like nobody really knows what the fuck's going on. The stock market is rising and falling. We've got, like, geopolitical chaos everywhere. Nobody knows what's next. And yet everything seems pretty okay.

Josh (51:07)

You had one here from Alexander Wang.

Duncan Trussell (51:10)

Alexander Wang says, I like my Earth with a little Four Horsemen. Yeah, I mean, you know, if you do look at, like, the Book of Revelations, not as prognostication, but maybe as a set of things that always happen when civilization reaches a certain level. So if you sort of buy into the Graham Hancock theory that maybe humans have been here much longer, the Flood myth, there was some kind of pre existing civilization. They're the people who built the pyramids. They're the people who all of, like, gobleki tepe and all of those megalithic sites are sort of the remnants of some advanced civilization that got wiped out by something, some event. And so the Book of Revelations, if you think of it as not so much prophecy as much as here is what you can look for when this thing happens. That always happens. Then the Four Horsemen become very interesting. And all of the sort of weird visions that John had, John of Patmos had. First Horseman Disease. Plague disease. Right. First Horseman's Disease. Second Horsemen. War. Google the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. This episode of the DTFH is brought to you by hims. Josh, do you mind switching to the profile view? I just want to show y'all something. It makes me really think hims. The people running this ad campaign are brilliant. Look at that. Look at that. Wait, I don't know if you can see it because of the lighting, but right here, my friends, this little crop circle right here, Satan's thumbprint right there at the top of my head, a nice old bald spot, like some kind of friar. Friar Tuck. I should be wearing a robe and wandering around a forest with a rotund belly, feeding honey to bears or whatever friars used to do. The point is, it's too late for me. This is a ravaged wasteland up there. There was no hymns when this. When my hair started betraying me. There's no hymns when my hair pulled at Judas. It's too late for me. It's not too late for you. 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I didn't know that. I thought it was like first was plague, then war, then famine, then conquest. Huh. What's wrong about my horseman? The second horseman riding a red horse signifies violence, bloodshed, the devastation of war. The third horseman riding a black horse represents hunger, starvation and economic hardship. The if you kind of look at that though, as a natural process, it sort of makes sense. And the fourth Horsemen riding pillars and bodies, Death itself. Yeah, well, whatever's going down. Wait, whoa. Healthy debate. That's a that. Now see, that is click baity. There is a fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse and it's us Click on that. That is some great clickbait. The Book of Revelations in the New Testament lists the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse as conquest, war, famine, and death. While in the Old Testament's Book of Ezekiel, they are sword, famine, wild beasts, and pestilence. But whatever we call them, they are remarkably close to what we might call the four horsemen of ecology that regulate population size and nature. That's what I was trying to get at. In his 2016 book, the Serengeti Rules, Sean Carroll discusses the work of pioneering ecologist Charles Elton. In thinking about how animal numbers are regulated to avoid overpopulation. Elton suggested that in general, increases in numbers were held in check by predators, pathogens, parasites, and food supply. So that that's what that when the human population gets to a certain level, there's a probable set of things that will happen that will reset civilization. And those are. That's. You know, the horsemen just represent those things. KT videos is saying, what? Horseman is responsible for sending celebrities to space? The coolest Horseman, Horseman, who's getting his dick sucked all the time. Sky Watchers is a UAP group founded by Jake Barber. You might get a kick out of it. Hopefully we can solve the energy paradox. But, you know, these things that are happening were not just foretold by John of Patmos in the Book of Revelations or the Book of Ezekiel. More recently, these kinds of predictions came from people like Terence McKenna and pull up on YouTube. Josh. Terence McKenna talks about the end of the world, the end of history, end of the world. Yeah, yeah.

Josh (59:13)

This one or this one?

Duncan Trussell (59:14)

Probably the end of time, the animated one. The idea being.

Josh (59:19)

I might dock you for that one, but.

Duncan Trussell (59:21)

Okay, don't play it. Play it, Terence. But get on. The end of the world. This could be it too. The idea being, you see that each epoch being shorter than the one that preceded it, this generates an asymptotic curve of approach. And it's become a cliche of our culture that time is speeding up. It actually is speeding up. It's not that it seems like it's speeding up.

Josh (59:50)

They're saying no audio.

Duncan Trussell (59:51)

Oh, shit. I wonder why.

Josh (59:53)

I don't know. Certain videos don't play audio.

Duncan Trussell (59:55)

Whoa. That's brilliant. Okay, we figured this out, guys. It looks like certain videos have it set up so that you can't play audio on them, so people can't live stream them. I guess try to play that other one and we just won't. We'll just cut that out of them.

Josh (60:07)

Let's see if they can hear Us now. Can you guys hear us now?

Duncan Trussell (60:09)

Can you guys hear us?

Josh (60:12)

Yeah.

Duncan Trussell (60:13)

Okay, we're going to try one other McKenna video and see if this cuts out. Keep your eye on it to see if it cuts it out. Are you guys hearing music? Are you hearing my copyright violation? Novelty is not necessarily good. Or nice. What? All right, well, we gotta figure that out. For some reason, the audio isn't working. The point is, McKenna talks about, for those of you who are familiar with him, you're already aware of this. Terrence McKenna had a bunch of visions on various entheogens and sort of had this sense of an impending thing called the Singularity. And he also had a very acute understanding of Moore's Law, of the effect of having increasingly sophisticated technology. The sort of cultural disruption that one might expect from what he called an asymptotic, I always call it the hockey stick. But from a sudden like exponentially induced velocity, from like, you know, where all of a sudden we start getting new innovations every month instead of every 100 years. And so this leads to what he called the Singularity. And in a clip that we probably can't play, I might be able to find out my phone and play it through here though. He talks about what one might expect in the lead up to that event. And I think he was like, it's exactly what's happening right now. Just this sort of final phase of the caterpillar turning into the butterfly. The melting down of all forms, the melting down of institutions, the melting down of all formerly universally accepted ways of being, melting down of our understanding of everything. And you could say like the culture war debate over the meaning of womanhood or manhood, like, what are we? Are we? What is a woman like? All of that stuff is related to what's coming, which is these sort of universal structures that have been the pillars of civilization are being eroded and dissolved by technology and hyper digital connection, which is allowing a never before seen transfer of data. For better or for worse. Because for better, whatever state apparatus is trying to censor certain ideas, it can't successfully censor those ideas. For worse. A kind of, I guess you could say like cliquey culty, the formation of all these micro cults that aren't based on what you would necessarily call truth, but on a shared distortion of reality. And so this is exactly what you'd expect if we could just instantaneously communicate with anyone all over the planet and then add to it AI getting involved. Whoa, now you've got like, you know, and they, they just, I'll show you this. I'm sure we could pull this up.

Josh (63:57)

Yeah, two super chats.

Duncan Trussell (63:59)

Oh, shit. Hey, love you, but I love Harley. You mean Harlan Williams? I love him. He is so funny. I'll see what I could do. Maybe I'll come to the mothership or something. And this one drop and Dab says it's not a big mystery. Last few days there is the biggest Corona hole activity in a decade. Oh, really? I didn't see that. We got to look that up. Thank you. Dropping dabs. Pull up. Josh, if you could pull up. Corona Hole activity. Corona hole. Nothing I love more than dipping my fingers in that wet old Corona hole. It's hot and wet. Okay. Oh, shit. No, that's January 31st. See, I go to News. Click on News, see if we got anything. Yeah, see, I didn't really see any of that. Maybe you could supply a link to show us where that is. Because I did look to see if we were getting some kind of weird sun weather and I couldn't find it.

Josh (65:03)

And you had another super chat.

Duncan Trussell (65:05)

Jesus Christ, Diadon. Imagine when AI can power themselves with something like fusion. Do you think humans might be quantum computers with their efficiency? Gonna make me go broke chatting with you. Yeah, I feel bad, Diadem. I don't know what to do. I can see everyone's chat, but when you super chat, it turns bright orange. So it alerts me, which is lame. Cause then the. The people who aren't doing that get ignored. And that makes me seem like some kind of classist fucking piece of shit. Basically a whore. I got to read one of these non super chats just to balance it out. Rory Ladd says, just coming back from two days of Ayahuasca. Just want to shout some love out to the rest of the family. Thank you, Rory. Diadon. Look, he didn't pay for this one. Suspicious observer has a good space weather monitoring channel. Thank you, Diadon. Landon Blackburn says if I had money, I'd share with you. Look, you didn't need money. Obi says hello from Lubbock. Hello, Jordan. M's getting gimp problems. My gimp has stolen my certification and I'm terrified of the potential repercussions. Well, look, I got to address that. This, and I should have mentioned it earlier. Yeah, we don't know what that is yet. And I am going to fund a study. But gimps really love certificates. And so this is why, if you are certified, I recommend a hermetically sealed gimp proof certificate room. And people love certificate rooms. I love when I Go to someone's house and, like, want to see my certificate room? And they. And, you know, if it's sort of. If it's easy to get in your certificate room, you kind of only have yourself to blame because gimps are drawn to certificates like a moth to flame. And I know there's been previous studies. Blitzer, Rykar, 1943. Or I'm sorry, 1973. Stanford University. Anomalous gimp attraction to certifications and certificates. They did a really cool study where they took. They would take randomly selected gimps and they would put the certificate, like, a good certificate, like a Harvard degree is what they used. And they did use a few others to make sure it's just not the Harvard degree. They all had the same result. They would take the degree and they would put it in the middle of a hedge maze. And so put the gimp in the hedge maze. And via some. Maybe it's what birds use to fly south. Maybe it's how whales navigate the oceans. The gimp gimp would traverse the hedge maze 60 to 70% faster than hedge mazes. Didn't have a certificate in the center. And because we do all know gimps will go to a septic tank. They did put a septic tank in one of the hedge mazes, and this was a 30% increase in the gimp getting to the septic tank, whereas the certificate, like, double speed to get to that certificate. So we don't know what that is. I'm sorry I didn't mention it earlier. I know a lot of y'all have gimps. And, you know, it's. I think, for me at my age, like, I need a hobby. So I love raising my gimps. I love my gimps. I treat them well. But, you know, it's challenging. It's challenging. It's definitely more challenging than, like, a French bulldog. And also, like, finding, like, authentic gimps these days is not easy because you're gonna get a lot of, like, people pretending to be gimps.

Josh (68:44)

People are calling you a gimp pimp.

Duncan Trussell (68:46)

No, I'm not a gimp. A gimp pimp is someone who sells gimps or exploits gimps. I'm actually very much against gimp pimps. And if you want to go to Stopgimp Pimping Edu, you should check that out, because there's a lot of information about what we're doing to prevent gimp exploitation, which is only getting worse and worse these days. And, yeah, they're gimps. I mean, they like isolation. They like being sent under the Stairs, they like all this stuff, but, you know, there's still gimps. Like, they still deserve like a basic standard of treatment and nothing worse than, you know, I have two rescue gimps, so fuck off. I'm not a gimp pimp. I have two rescue gimps. And when they came to me, they were just a mess. And now they're just. They follow rules. They, they don't mutter at night, which is one of the most annoying fucking things. Either a new gimp or a rescue gimp. They mutter under your stairs. It sounds so creepy. I hate it. A muttering gimp. Nothing worse than a muttering gimp. But my gimps are quiet, they're satisfied and they follow the rules. But that is because I do keep my septic tank well secured. I keep my certificate in a very secure room. And it's wild because they know it's there. And I just, you know, I could see them looking at that door all the time and I don't know how to stop that. But it's still, it's better than them getting in there and, you know, shoving the certificate into their gimp suit and then making you get it out. Fuck it up. It's one of the fucked up things they do. Having to slide your hand down into that old hairy gimp body and finding it and always it's in their butt. Who do you think was the first ever gimp? Do we have recorded gimp history? Is it natural in nature? It's fair. Well, okay, I appreciate your question, KT videos, and I'm sure you didn't mean to be offensive, but yeah, gimps are natural. And I hate that you're even, because even like proposing that perhaps it's unnatural to have a gimp in a full leather body suit under your stairs. Just sort of shows some work you gotta do on yourself. It's so wild to me. Like some people will have a fountain at their house. Is that natural? It's not a creek. It's not running down from the mountains. It's plugged in. There's a pump. Nobody. You know, you could have 15 fountains at your fucking house and nobody's gonna say anything but you could have a gimp under your stairs and everyone judges you. And this is so sad. It's relaxing. It's feng shui. It's good fortune for the house. My kids love the gimp, you know, it's great. And yeah, it's definitely. There's. You can look at the petroglyphs of Don Kang and there's literally massive gimps. That were carved in. You could only see it from the sky. Beautiful gimps. Beautiful ancient gimps. They found gimp bones in evrangling. They found a stack of gimp bones. Lovingly stacked gimp bones. Which is what gimps. When you do a gimp funeral, which is one of the saddest, sweetest things I've ever been to, that's part of the thing. You flay the flesh, you stack the bones.

Josh (72:16)

So yeah, I keep my gimp behind the red curtains. He likes to watch.

Duncan Trussell (72:21)

They love red curtains.

Josh (72:22)

Yeah.

Duncan Trussell (72:23)

Now what have you tried? Did you do the thing with a striped curtain? Did you put your gimp behind this striped curtain?

Josh (72:29)

No. I was afraid it caused epilepsy.

Duncan Trussell (72:31)

It does. Yeah, it does. And that's a weird thing. There's so there's such strange magical creatures. Can you scroll back up a little bit? Self banning. Thank you. KT videos. I was gonna issue a self ban to you, but yeah, just three minutes. Self ban. I don't think you meant anything by it, but it's just the kind of thing that, you know, I'm a little sensitive about. And whoever called me a gimp? Five minute self ban. Eagle vision is saying gimps love to watch. And this is true. This is why the gimp is one of. If you want to like learn patience, all you need to do is, you know, place your gimp either in front of your bedroom or in front of the bathroom and just watch. Leave the door open, leave it cracked. They are sneaky. So they think that you don't know they're watching you take a shit or whatever. And it's incredible. They're so quiet and patient. And I've learned so much about listening from my gimp. Listen like a gimp. Ben Franklin used to say that. Or Edgar Allan Poe would say he had the ears of a gimp. And it's because, you know, you just. They. They fully like attune themselves to you. Pooping like it's not like a normal perv thing. Like they're. It's way more than. It's like watching Jane Goodall. It's probably the way Gorillaz felt with Jane Goodall. Like they. When they were looking over at Jane Goodall, watching them, they were probably thinking, we're not that interesting. Like, what the fuck? She does know that we're like gorillas in the mist, right? Like we're just gorillas. What does she see in us that we don't see? Didn't you just throw your shit at Frank? Look at her throw your shit again. Watch, she'll write it down. So this is the. There's the Path of the gimp. The Path of the GIMP is a wonderful book for anyone interested, please, also. And I'm not gonna go on and on about gimps, but you got me started. Do me a favor. You know, around Halloween, everyone adopts a gimp. And it's just so sad because these gimp shelters, they don't have the standards that I wish they had. And I get it. They've got a bunch of gimps, many of them soiled, many of them covered in septic slop. And, you know, they don't know what to do with them. And of course they euthanize them after like 48 hours. So it's just sad to me though, because people will go there. They adopt the gimp for Halloween. They take the gimp, put them under the stairs. They don't even have the under the stairs appropriately like set up for a gimp. You know, they have a sleeping bag under there. You don't put a sleeping bag down for your gimp. You put straw and too well lit also. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. This needs to be. There should be. It should be one tiny red pin light in there and that's it. If that pitch black is great. But yeah. So then, you know, their friends come over, everyone wants to see the gimp, and then Halloween ends and, you know, pretty soon they realize, oh my God, it's like there's so many other things involved. I've got to oil the gimp suit. I've, you know, so many things. And then of course, they didn't secure the gimp. And then the gimp gets out and then their septic tank fucks up. And they don't, they don't. They generally, they don't even care that the gimp is gone. They're just, oh, why is my toilet backing up? And then they get the plumber. The plumber opens the fucking septic tank and there's a gimp in there. And then they will post some bullshit on Reddit about how gimps suck. And then that gimp goes back to the shelter, gets euthanized because no one generally will adopt a twice sheltered gimp, which is bullshit. One of my rescue gimps was in the shelter twice, and he's fine. They're fine. Not sure KT Videos wants to know is paying $5. Thank you. To ask are gimp self aware? I think, what if I am a gimp? You're not a gimp. I see your, your avatar there. Does look like a gimp, you're not a gimp. If you have to ask if you're a gimp, you're not a gimp. And yes, gimps are self aware, not in the same way humans are, but like in a mycelial way. They, they do share a connection with all planetary gimps. And they thrum together is the term for it, which is kind of like the way cats purr a gimple. A healthy gimp will thrum at night. It's very comforting. Under the stairs you can hear my thrumming gimps. And it's like. And this is some kind of like they're connecting with all the other thrumming gimps and it forms the great guy in gimp mind, which is another thing that's unstable. If you look at what's been happening to the guy in gimp mind, it is not stable anymore. It's not at the same resonance it used to be. It fluctuates massively. And this is because people aren't taking care of their gimps. Maybe that's what happened in Portugal, I don't know.

Josh (78:03)

What did Bob Barker always say? Spay. Make sure to spay and neuter your gimps.

Duncan Trussell (78:08)

Yeah, well, definitely, yeah, you should, yeah, castrate the gimp.

Josh (78:12)

Yeah.

Duncan Trussell (78:12)

And it's not like it sounds. There's ways to do it. They don't even know. They don't care. D La Follette James, I missed it. Duncan, my love, you missed my super chat earlier. Can we get an official statement as to why we no longer get the Jonestown choir singing at the beginning of each episode? I miss it greatly because I moved it to YouTube and I figured that would just like trigger something. Welcome to capitalism, baby. Maybe I'll get some kids to sing that.

Josh (78:39)

Oh, one of your former gimps has something to say.

Duncan Trussell (78:41)

Brett Outdoor Experiences says, I used to be a gimp at Duncan's house. I escaped. Not true. That's a liar. Self banned. 10 minutes. That is a liar, not a gimp. Gimps can't type. That's ridiculous. Gimps can't fucking type. Gimps have no idea what computers are. Give me a break. Think I'm an idiot and I've never had an escape. GIMP 1. Well, a few in the early days, but I got them back. Okay, this is a great question from Enrique Nunez is asking what are your thoughts on the body storing trauma and how can we, you know. Okay, that's a good question. And then I'm going to show you guys something. Something very special. So I have Scoliosis, not to brag. And if you see me at a pool, you're gonna be like, what the fuck? You can kind of see it. Do that side shot. Kind of see the way I'm like, I have scoliosis. Like, I've shrunk a little bit. I used to be taller than I am. And the. I went through a period of, like, I don't know, years. Years of back pain. Like, insane, debilitating back pain where I would, like, have to lay in bed for a couple of days because it would just. It would just start spasming. And I would go to chiropractors. Ugh, that was a dark period, man. I was fucking broke too, in those days. And chiropractors are expensive. And I would go to. Desperately go to a chiropractor, and once or twice at work they would do some adjustment and it wouldn't hurt anymore, but sometimes it wouldn't work. And chiropractor jokes, oh, my God, hate them. If you've ever been to a chiropractor, the chiropractor will pop your back and then be like, you want a cigarette after that? Shut up. Anyway, I. Pemberton. I told Johnny Pemberton, you know, I was bitching about my back and Pull up Healing back Pain. Josh. Damn. Wait, we got a $10 super chat. I've had moments on mushrooms where it felt like I've reached a point where I entered in the realm that exceeded time. And I was terrified from a Buddhist perspective. Any thoughts? Okay, we'll get back to that. Pull up healing back pain. I do have thoughts on that. Of course I have thoughts on that. I have thoughts on everything. Because I'm a fool. I'll actually answer that. Like, I know. Healing Back Pain, the Mind Body Connection by John E. Sarno. So Pemberton told me about this fucking book. And I thought, that's such horseshit. That cannot work. I've been going to fucking chiropractors. I have scoliosis. My back is a mess. There's no way I'm gonna be able to deal with this back pain. And I read that fucking book, and to this day, my back's better. You should check it out if you're having, like, if you're having back pain. And maybe it was just like pointing out that there could be a mind body connection and I need to have him back on Conor Habib, we talk about this sometimes. Like, you know, if you look at sort of the aphorisms, if you look at what people will say, like, oh, man, I'm breaking my back at this job or that's a weight off or stuff like that kind of points to this sort of metaphysical back that stores all of your unacknowledged anxiety. So the general like distorted view of how to deal with your own personal suffering is that don't look at it, don't feel it, don't acknowledge it, distract yourself. And there's obviously it's far more subtle than that, but where does it go? It doesn't go anywhere. And so the idea is your body kind of like stores it and one of those places is your back. And so if you just start turning, it's not like you have to fix the problem, which a lot of people think. It's not like you have to tie up all the bullshit like dangling loose ends in your life or do some kind of monumental trajectory change of your life necessarily. It's that you just need to acknowledge what's going on instead of ignoring it and not be afraid of acknowledging it and realizing there's no difference in acknowledging it. It's like people are afraid to go to the doctor because they think the doctor will make them sick. Whatever's going on is already there, just acknowledge it. And then something about that points towards a mechanism of data storage. Short term memory versus long term memory. Your back is some kind of short, shitty short term memory, like USB stick with all your bullshit there, you know the back, you put it behind you. Yeah, but it worked. I could speak from experience. My back hurts every once in a while, but nothing like it used to. Nothing like it used to. Every once in a while it'll go out or whatever, but it's just much better now and it seems to be completely related to that book. All right, Ether Body. Now then, I'm going to show you guys something cool. 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And this monk is meditating diligently. Months and months of meditating. And the monk starts experiencing all of these cities, which are the name for, like, the paranormal manifestations that happen if you get a good meditation practice going levitating, he can suddenly understand what the birds are saying. The monk is very excited. He sees this as a sign of advancement. And so he goes to his teacher and says, I can hear what the. I know what the birds are saying. I can levitate, finally. And his master says to him, you've missed the whole point. And it's not what is happening, it's who it's happening to that you should look into. And so these great visions granted by psychedelics are incredible. I've had so many and I love them. But when you think of, like, having maybe an experience, what sounds like unit of consciousness, which is certainly accessible from psychedelics, which is very exciting and very cool. You still are back here typing the question. Like, when I first met David, I remember telling him, once I meditated, I was on no Drugs. And for a moment, I felt like I had merged with everything. It was like what I generally would associate with a pretty high microgram LSD trip, but there was no drugs, which is what made it so remarkable to me. And he goes, is it still happening? Like, no, you got me to describe it. Can you describe it? What was it like? Was it like. Let's just think about it. If it was a color, what color would it be? Was it malleable? Do you think it was the kind of experience you could affect? And by the end of the deconstruction of the thing, you realize that whatever had happened just wasn't happening anymore. And my assessment of what had happened become blurry at best, to the point where there was some kind of encoded memory of this moment that had happened that I had painted on so many times with each retelling that had become absolutely meaningless in the sense that it had become something in the past, whereas this is what's happening right now. And so all of these peak experiences are great and worth noting, but they can become sand traps. They can become this kind of watermark, like an ethereal watermark, which is, what if you're not now, when you take mushrooms, if you're not transcending time space? Was it a good trip? I mean, I didn't transcend time space. Now, if you're meditating, if you're not merging with the totality of all things, levitating, hearing what, the language of the birds, are you backsliding a little bit? And so the frustrating instruction is, yeah, that's not happening. Now. Another story that points in the direction of not getting trapped by mystical experiences related to psychedelics or your spiritual practice is famously, there's a story of devotee going to Srila Prabhupda, the founder of the Hare Krishnas, and saying, when I chant Hare Krishna, I see a light floating towards me. And Prabhupda said, keep chanting and it'll go away. So this is not to discount your experience, which sounds very beautiful and incredible, but more to invite you to do a deep investigation of what you think that was, and then ask yourself, is it happening now? And quite often with these experiences, we realize that whatever they were, they're not happening anymore, and that it's another form of attachment. It's another place you can cling to as you're desperately trying to eke out some kind of stability in the bardo of becoming the human bardo, where everything is change. To finish answering your question, what Chogim Trump has said, the Bad news is you're falling. The good news is there's no ground. And so this is sort of the general situation. Whatever stability you cling to, whether it's metaphysical stability or whether it's interpersonal stability, whatever forms you think are lasting in this world are not. And the more you believe in any kind of permanence to anything at all, the more disappointed you will be. Because unfortunately, everything is always shifting and changing. And this can be very sad for people. In the same way it was sad, you know, when you found out there was no Santa Claus.

Josh (93:40)

What?

Duncan Trussell (93:40)

Oh, shit. I mean, some people, Santa Claus doesn't go to everybody's house, just like, you know, some people. I meant when you find out that Santa Claus won't come to your house anymore. Josh. Great. I talked to him on. I talked to him on Cameo the other day. He's awesome. Expensive. All right, now I'm gonna show you all something. And I've been thinking about doing this for a while and I've had some reservations about it because I don't want this to be misconstrued. But. So first, let me just say this. Here's the preface to this. For those of you who love the Midnight Gospel. We're not doing another season. I just want to eradicate any hope you might have there. But I get asked a lot, what happened? Why didn't Netflix do another season? And wrapped up in that question is an opportunity for me to seem ungrateful to Netflix or to seem like a dick. So I guess the first thing I want to say is, like, you have to understand how insane it was that Netflix let us make that show and that people. Look, I know it's frustrating when you don't get a second season of something, but you got to understand that, like the fact that they let us make that really is like, miraculous. That show never should have gotten made. It never should have gotten made. Did you know age is one of the most common causes of dry eyes? Because we can produce fewer tears as we get older. Give your dry burning or irritated eyes a daily refresh with Refresh Optive Mega 3 Lubricant Eye Drops. A preservative free formula that provides fast acting, lasting relief. These artificial tears deliver enhanced hydration that nourishes the eye surface to help protect your natural tears from evaporating. 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The animators were all at Titmouse in House animation team, and for those of you who don't know much about how animation works, generally animation is done overseas. So you ship storyboards out to different animation houses and you get like three revisions or something like that and that's it and you're done. And you have to do that because animation is so expensive. And so a lot of animation gets made overseas. But they I know I could have looked at the budget of the Midnight Gospel, but I never looked because I didn't want that to impact me feeling free to come up with ideas with Pendleton. So I have no idea how much it costs, but it must have been fucking expensive. It must have. It had to have been. It was done in the United States and they gave us all the time we needed. And the more time, the more expensive it is. And every step of the way they were just totally cool with this insane thing that we were making and very generous in letting us like figure out what it was. So I only have like a sense of gratitude for the fact that they let us make it. And yeah, would I have liked to There, there, there there is in my mind another season. But also I get it, man. Like you, it's a business. It's. It's a business they're trying to like, you know, they, they, they're trying to make. There's probably a crystal clear set of numbers that justify paying more money for another season. And the Midnight Gospel did not get that initially. It's like a boutique y arty, philosophical, crazy show. This isn't Stranger Things, which is great, but that's what you want if you're running Netflix. To justify spending money on making stuff is you need to get a certain number of views and Those views have to happen in a certain way, and then you make the show again. So that's just how it works. And that did not happen, which anyone who loves the show, I mean, think about it. It's like. It's weird, man. It's not mainstream. It's completely bizarre. And, you know, it doesn't have cliffhangers in between each episode. It's not pulling you along in the normal way. And it deals with some heavy duty fucking shit. I could see how somebody who wasn't into that stuff, wanted to watch Castlevania or something, would not stick around with that show. Maybe watch the first episode, but not make it through the whole season, which is what I think Netflix is looking for when it comes to making animation. Also the animation. The whole universe has changed when it comes to streaming services and stuff and profit margins and profit models and stuff. We just happen to get in at the exact right time and they let us make it. So it's a beautiful window. But without giving any more further detail in that regard, I did about 10 months ago or so. I don't know. I'm not gonna say anything about why, but I did make a trailer for maybe what season two would look like and go back to the chat for a second before I get into this. I'm really fucking. So I did make a trailer for what season two would look like in my mind, and I got some pretty cool people to do it. Jesse Moynihan, who was one of the main animators on the show, helped me with this, and one of the fans of the Midnight Gospel, who. I couldn't believe it. Little Yachty loves the Midnight Gospel. And so I reached out to him and he's like one of the artists where I feel nervous talking to. And so I reached out to him to see if he would do the voice of Daniel Hoopes in. In this tiny little trailer here now again, for people just. I really want to. This is not a teaser. Like we're. A second season is coming out. It is not. So just. I don't want anyone to think that we're getting another season. It's not happening. There's no second season of the Midnight Gospel. But I did make this thing, and I realized it's kind of sad to not share it with people like, what am I doing? So, yeah. So I made this thing with Jesse Moynihan and I figured, why not just show it to the live feed? I can't. If you're listening to this, unfortunately, you won't see this. I guess. No they'll hear the audio. You'll just hear the audio of it. But maybe some other time I'll upload it. I just have to clear some things first. But anyway, my dearest live audience, I'm going to show you this now. What'd you guys think? Cool. I'm glad you liked it. It felt good to show it to people. Finally. Kind of been sitting on that. Yeah, definitely nobody. If anybody was recording this. Don't share that. That'd be horrible. Oh, no, please. K makes things. Don't post that. That would be terrible. But yeah, that's. Ron White was in it. Ian Finance was in it. But yeah, there was a lot of like, I love the way it came out. It was really good. But yeah, you know, I guess there's some small universe where somebody leaked it or, I don't know, a lot of people saw it and went around a lot. Like, it'd have to be an insane amount. It would have to be crazy. And it would start off with someone doing the wrong thing, which would be to leak it. That would be so bad. It would be really bad. And then theoretically, I don't know, I don't know how that stuff works, but I don't know, maybe Netflix, who knows? You never know. Regardless, this is just for you. And I know how the Internet works, which is that if you ask people not to leak something, they won't. I know that. Yeah, you just can show anything and people don't record it or have access to it, to technology that would record it and they don't leak when I ask. So please, if you leak, It'll be a 10 minute ban when you come back, minimum. Maybe you. Maybe. So far we've only done up to like 7 minute, maybe a 10 minute ban, I don't remember. But we've never done a 15 minuter. And I would probably give you a 15 minute ban for leaking it. So. To leak at your own risk, my friends. Well, look, we gotta wrap this sucker up. It's been over an hour and a half. I want to thank you so much for hanging out with me for an hour and a half or more. I don't know how long it's been. I love doing these solo episodes. They're so fun. You guys are so cool. Thank you for. Thank you for your donations. That's insane and unnecessary and it does create a hierarchical system of communication, which I feel weird about. But then my kids eat organic, you know, so. Doesn't hurt. But wait a second. Sanson says, do you hear that leak? I hope you didn't, man. Seriously, you really. Three minute ban just for intimating that you did. Hi, Corey Gallagher from Indiana. Anyway, listen, I love you guys and I hope you have a great week. We're only doing one podcast this week. I'm a little busy right now. I'm in the thick of a tour and I know it sounds weird to say I'm busy, but I'm about to go to a meditation retreat, which seems odd that that would mean you're busy. But yeah, I've got to fly up to Menla tomorrow and I'm doing a meditation retreat with David, which I'm excited about. And then I'm back on the road. I'm gonna be in the Comedy Zone in Greenville and then after that in Vegas, and then I've got a nice six week chunk where I don't have to do anything and I'm excited about that. So. Oh, I'll be at the mothership during that six week chunk and I'd love for you guys to come see me live. I love you guys. I'm out of here. Hare Krishna. Bye. Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway this spring. Refresh your spring personal care items and earn four times points on all your favorites when you shop in store or online. Earn 4 times points when you shop for items like Pantene Shampoo, Gillette Fusion, five Razors, Secret Body Spray, Always Pads, Loves Diapers, Pepto Bismol, and Nervive Nerve Relief Cream. Then use your rewards for discounts on groceries or gas. Offer ends May 20th. Restrictions apply. Promotions may vary. 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