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Duncan Trussell
Welcome to the dtfh, my friends. I hope you're doing great out there. And I wanted to tell you guys about something new that's been happening with the dtfh. I've been doing a night stream. If you're interested, subscribe to the DTFH at YouTube and come join an ever growing family, a community that loves to swim in the hot, frothy waters of my night stream. Now today we have a guest that has stirred up some controversy in the past. And I thought these days, especially with everything that's going on with the Epstein files and everything that's going on, the general social unrest and what feels like a growing public mistrust and aversion towards the elites of the world, something today Donnie taught me is actually a slur against the wealthy people. He prefers the term cool guys, but however you want to put it, I know a lot of folks out there are sort of wondering to themselves.
Donnie Rothschild
It.
Duncan Trussell
Can'T be that the super wealthy of the world are actually like all eating people and all the other stuff we've seen in the Epstein files. Surely there's some hope out there. It can't be like that. That's like a Twilight Zone episode. And so I thought, you know what? Why not have Donnie Rothschild, heir to the Rothschild fortune, here on the DTFH to talk a little bit about what's really going on up there on Mount Olympus? Are they all sinister or do they really have a good heart? And do they want the best not just for themselves, but for all of humanity? So everyone please welcome to the dtfh, recent Grammy award winner, Donnie Rothschild. Ah, Donnie, welcome back to the dtfh. It's good to see you. You're looking good.
Donnie Rothschild
Thanks for having me, Duncan. It's excited to be back, man. Like, we had a dude, a lot's been going on.
Duncan Trussell
I know. I like. You know, I gotta tell you, you do have a kind of like, just got a Grammy glow.
Donnie Rothschild
Thank you very much. Dude, it was so cool getting to sit next to Adele cardi b. Like, just being around her, you know. Adele kept on trying to eat my cheeseburger. I go, you're skinny now. You don't eat cheeseburgers anymore. Like banter, you know?
Duncan Trussell
So you did banter with Adele?
Donnie Rothschild
Me and her banter all the time. Oh, my God, she calls me a fat pig. I go, you used to be a fat pig, bitch. Remember where you came from? It's like, it's fun. Brother, sister, bro, sister. We kind. Yeah, we. She. She. She rolls her eyes, you know.
Duncan Trussell
What a world you live in.
Donnie Rothschild
It's a fun world, dude. It's among the stars. We just have fun. Everything's cool. Everything.
Duncan Trussell
Did you go to any parties?
Donnie Rothschild
You know, ever since Diddy got arrested, the party scene has kind of shut down.
Duncan Trussell
Oh, that sucks.
Donnie Rothschild
It's like we're kind of like, just. He kind of threw the best parties.
Duncan Trussell
So it's like minus the, you know.
Donnie Rothschild
If. Yeah, if. But that. If that's your thing, you do that thing.
Duncan Trussell
I'm just saying you shouldn't do this. I mean, it's a. I think. I don't know exactly what's going on there. I'm pretty sure. Weren't they, like, putting GHB into massage ointment? Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
To get us to. Have you ever done, like, the Cuban shuffle, Duncan? Like, really good.
Duncan Trussell
No.
Donnie Rothschild
Well, get a little GHP put on your muscle, and then when it says, like, to the left, it just lets your body. It just lets your body go. Yeah, I think it was a little overblown.
Duncan Trussell
Okay, so this is just probably another case of the lamestream media.
Donnie Rothschild
Lamestream media. The parties were fun. They were just jealous. It's like, you know, when the dorks made fun of the cool kids in high school. Like, those parties aren't even that cool. And they're probably fucking. It's them. They're just jealous.
Duncan Trussell
Sour grapes.
Donnie Rothschild
Sour grapes.
Duncan Trussell
Sour grapes. That's good to hear, man. Cause I think, you know, right now a lot of people are kind of feeling this sense that, like, people like you people, you know, and blessed to be born into the highest socioeconomic bracket in the world, probably. And also to have more wealth than anyone in human history.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah.
Duncan Trussell
Whereas most people don't, I think, you know, with some of the stuff coming out, there's a growing animosity towards where the. Your socioeconomic class resides.
Donnie Rothschild
And my thing is, like, just try again. Your next life. Just pray really hard.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah. You believe in reincarnation?
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah. Pray really. The reason you're a poor piece of shit and you're born into a poor piece of shit family is probably because you did bad stuff.
Duncan Trussell
Those are heavy. That's a heavy. That's.
Donnie Rothschild
I'm just sick and tired of people going, oh, you're rich, you're privileged, you're dead. You were probably a bad guy in.
Duncan Trussell
The last life, you know? Yeah. It's like. So you're one of those people who. You just kind of feel like everyone has an equal shot here.
Donnie Rothschild
Exactly.
Duncan Trussell
But you. I mean, we're pals. And I'm not trying to put you in an odd situation, but just a little pushback. You were born a Rothschild, so. Yes. So you didn't. You were born with more wealth than most people will ever have in their lives, Even millionaires.
Donnie Rothschild
Correct. But what's like, again, it's probably cause I was like a really dope guy the last life. I was probably. I was probably. I was probably like a crusader. I was probably like a, you know, a king, but like a. Just one healer, you know, where it's like, they're like, off with her head. And I was like, give her another shot. She just stole a piece of bread. Come on. You know, I was probably like a really cool guy. Thumbs down. Yeah, I was like the.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, it was a sick dude, save the gladiator stuff.
Donnie Rothschild
So that's my thing is anytime I see, like.
Duncan Trussell
But you think in a last life, you were probably, like, also like royalty or you get the sense of.
Donnie Rothschild
I just. Look at me like, I just feel.
Duncan Trussell
Like you've been doing this, like, this for a while.
Donnie Rothschild
That's why I kind of know I'm in, like, the groove. I know what I'm doing. I, you know, I'm in the right circles because I just feel comfortable there.
Duncan Trussell
Well, I mean, look, we're all people. Like, we all have the same wants, needs, and desires. And just because you were born in a, you know, socioeconomic bracket that many people in the world say is shouldn't even exist, doesn't mean you're a bad person. Correct.
Donnie Rothschild
I agree.
Duncan Trussell
And also.
Donnie Rothschild
And just cause you're poor doesn't mean you're a bad person, but it just means, hey, try hard in this life and maybe next life you'll do something really cool.
Duncan Trussell
I think that's a message of hope a lot of people could really attach themselves to. It's beautiful.
Donnie Rothschild
And it's also harder to win a Grammy when you're rich.
Duncan Trussell
Yes. Now, that brings us. Thank you. Yeah. So this, to me, is something that, you know, obviously when you're where you're at, you can't really complain without seeming, like, completely ungrateful. But, you know, how often do you hear the word Nepo, baby? How often do you get accused of? Like, any success you have is not because of some innate talent, but is because people want something from you or your family or they owe your family a favor. Like, how often would you say that happens to you?
Donnie Rothschild
The thing is, not as much anymore because I literally.
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Donnie Rothschild
Drown those people out. Like, if someone yells, nepo, baby, my security guard goes over there and just like, lets them know what it's about. Like, hey, he doesn't do that shit anymore.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
Cause I'm an award winner now, so you don't talk to me like that.
Duncan Trussell
Well. Cause it's not even true.
Donnie Rothschild
It's not even true. I worked my ass off.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, you produced an incredible.
Donnie Rothschild
I hired 14 of the best producers to help me write this song. I hired 16.
Duncan Trussell
You exact EP'd.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, I hired 16 of the best directors to make the music video. You know, I put that all together and people say, oh, it's cause you have money. No, it's because I have money and I just have a cool vibe.
Duncan Trussell
Well, you wrote the lyrics to the song.
Donnie Rothschild
I wrote the lyrics, yeah, yeah. With 14 other guys. But I was the main vibe guy.
Duncan Trussell
Well, you know, what's the saying? The hand that holds the brush is not always the painter.
Donnie Rothschild
Exactly.
Duncan Trussell
You know, and you hear this about a lot of like really great producers. Like, I've heard of great producers where the artist comes in and the producer takes a nap.
Donnie Rothschild
Yep.
Duncan Trussell
And that's neither.
Donnie Rothschild
That's my style. I go, I go, this is the vibe.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
Get at it. And it better be done by tomorrow or else.
Duncan Trussell
Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs, look at that.
Donnie Rothschild
Steve Jobs, Adolf Hitler, all great producers.
Duncan Trussell
I never thought of Hiller as a producer.
Donnie Rothschild
Hitler was like. He was like, yeah. Hey, Goebbels, do your thing. Get out there, spread the word. I'm going to go.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
Fuck A for brown in the Eagle's Nest real quick this weekend. And that's the kind of guy I am.
Duncan Trussell
Right. Well, let's cut to your. Let's cut to your Grammy now Grammy Award winning music video that you premiered on the dtfh. So that's a huge honor for me. The podcast numbers have gone up substantially since you won this Grammy. Let's go ahead and roll it, Josh. Beautiful.
Donnie Rothschild
There we go. Hans Zimmer for this part.
Duncan Trussell
Damn.
Donnie Rothschild
You can hear the bass.
Duncan Trussell
I can hear it, yeah.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
If you want to know the real name of the game. No, we'll tell you plainly. You don't have to ask again. Most of you are dumb, confused and delayed and you tend to get violent when things don't go your way.
Duncan Trussell
So good.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
We've tried to teach you a better way to be. But when we send our teachers, you nail them up on trees.
Donnie Rothschild
The religious imagery.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
Keep your population down because it will let you run.
Donnie Rothschild
That hand right there, that's Adele's hand we use.
Duncan Trussell
No, I thought I recognized it. Great message.
Donnie Rothschild
Yep. Come on. Everybody can relate to that.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
Please don't make us use the phone. The phone will reset things. And maybe that's okay for giving me one more chance before we wash away all of you peasants, replace you machines, to take this chance for what it is. Go to sleep and have good dreams.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
It'S just. Dude, it's just a fun. It's a fun bop.
Duncan Trussell
It's uplifting.
Donnie Rothschild
It's uplifting. It reminds people, like, what's going on.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, right. Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
Like, also, stay in line.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah. Oh, little robot kids sleeping.
Donnie Rothschild
The thing is, once we get the programming right, you can buy those robots one day.
Duncan Trussell
Like.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, we're going to be selling those robots.
Duncan Trussell
Robot kids.
Donnie Rothschild
Robot kids.
Duncan Trussell
Great. Wow. That is. You know what? Congratulations. Thanks for shaking, man. You deserve it. You and you and you put a lot of hard work in with a great team, and.
Donnie Rothschild
And I feel like the message. Good. It's like, hey, stay in lines. Because the thing is, I do not want to have to release the serum that makes people. You know.
Duncan Trussell
That's not real.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah. Yeah. It's not real.
Duncan Trussell
I mean. No, you're funny. Like, guys. Hey, Josh.
Donnie Rothschild
It's not real.
Duncan Trussell
He's funny. He doesn't mean this guy. You know, I don't think. You know, with all due respect, I think some of you. Some of you people, some of you elites, I don't think you.
Donnie Rothschild
Can we stop saying elites? Can we just. Instead of elite. I hate that word. Elite.
Duncan Trussell
Sorry.
Donnie Rothschild
It has such a negative. Dude. And I love you, Duncan. I've always loved you, but it has such a negative. It's like. It's like our N word, and I. I hate to it.
Duncan Trussell
Like, it's a slur, the pain, and you feel like it's a slur against the wealthy. I see that when a friend like.
Donnie Rothschild
You calls me an elite, it's like, I feel.
Duncan Trussell
I'm sorry.
Donnie Rothschild
I feel like you just ripped off my shirt and you're just whipping me on the back.
Duncan Trussell
You're a friend.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah. So why don't you just.
Duncan Trussell
I'm sorry.
Donnie Rothschild
Don't elite just say, like, cool guys cool.
Duncan Trussell
Okay, well, you cool guys don't seem to be. You cool guys don't seem to have. Have the kind of situational awareness I think that I would expect people to have. You know, when you say jokes like that, that, you know, some kind of Barely veiled threat that if people keep sort of pushing back against power structures, you're gonna release a serum. People don't know you're joking.
Donnie Rothschild
And then they get, I'm not really a funny guy. I don't really joke.
Duncan Trussell
Well, that your video and everything.
Donnie Rothschild
That wasn't real. Those were like. That was like, I think a real mess. That wasn't really a joke.
Duncan Trussell
Again, I feel like with the Epstein files out right now, is this really the time to be saying stuff like that? I mean, you. Of course. I looked up a lot of my friends in the files. I looked you up almost immediately, and there was 120 long, seemingly long emails from Epstein to you or you to Epstein that were almost 99% redacted. Just all black, black, black, black, black. Like, like, dude, I. I get your. The only words that weren't blacked out were like, pizza.
Donnie Rothschild
I get. You're like, a white guy podcaster and you don't really probably have much to talk about, but, like, do we do. Do we have to do this, like, Epstein thing? Like, isn't it kind of, like, old news? It's kind of hack at this point, to be honest. Like, if you think about it, talking about abstinence kind of hack. Like, that's like, if you're still doing, like, a tiger king joke.
Duncan Trussell
They just had hearing. They're having hearings where they're still doing that. Yeah, yeah. You didn't see the Pam Bondi thing where the survivors were there. She didn't look at them.
Donnie Rothschild
I don't really keep up. Dude. After he, like, died, because, like, yeah, we talked.
Duncan Trussell
You were clearly 100 to 100 emails.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, we talked.
Duncan Trussell
Like, about what?
Donnie Rothschild
Like, you said, pizza. I'm a big. I like pizza.
Duncan Trussell
He likes 100 pizza emails.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, we ordered pizza together. I got hungry in the store.
Duncan Trussell
Dude orders pizza together via email. How does that work? Why not just do text.
Donnie Rothschild
Emails easier?
Duncan Trussell
These are long. I don't know how long you have to explain your pizza already. This is.
Donnie Rothschild
Okay.
Duncan Trussell
These were missives.
Donnie Rothschild
You've never been at, like, hanging out with a friend. Hey, do you want to get pizza? Sure, sure. Of course. Should we get breadsticks? Ah, man, I'm actually trying to watch out how much bread I'm eating. Oh, should we get anchovies? I'm not a big in.
Duncan Trussell
What about pineapples?
Donnie Rothschild
What about pineapples? You know, it's the back.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, okay.
Donnie Rothschild
Actually, I don't really like pineapple. Or let's get two stuffed cross and one regular. So it was just that kind of con, it's just a lot.
Duncan Trussell
Why would they black it out?
Donnie Rothschild
Because honestly, no one, no one needs to fucking know what I like on my pizza. That's my business.
Duncan Trussell
Like it, I get it. So it's an invasion.
Donnie Rothschild
It's an invasion of privacy. And it's like, shut the fuck. Like, it's my thing.
Duncan Trussell
It's your right.
Donnie Rothschild
With a buddy who died, like, are we really talking ill will of a guy that passed away? Like, that's on you.
Duncan Trussell
Like, is that not my intent? It's kind of sick that it wasn't my intent. I just listen, I'm trying to.
Donnie Rothschild
The guy died and we're just yapping about him.
Duncan Trussell
Like, sorry, I'm sorry for your loss.
Donnie Rothschild
Like, I honestly, I kind of, it's like, I don't want to talk about him. James Van Der Beek. Like, just guys that have died. Like, it's right. Let's be a Christian nation for once and just forget about it.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, I didn't realize Christianity was your thing.
Donnie Rothschild
I love it. Yeah, Christianity is cool.
Duncan Trussell
What's your favorite thing about it?
Donnie Rothschild
The control.
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Donnie Rothschild
I love the gold.
Duncan Trussell
Gold and gold stuff.
Donnie Rothschild
The stack, the big venues. I'm trying to open up a nightclub in the. The Vatican.
Duncan Trussell
Wow.
Donnie Rothschild
In the basement. It's gonna be like a very 150 people. All the tombs are with the. The fallen popes.
Duncan Trussell
That's interesting. Like, I know that the. I guess like I've heard maybe the Catholic church is getting, you know, slightly more liberal, but it seems like they. How are they going to let you open up like an actual. Like with alcohol sales and.
Donnie Rothschild
Oh, we're going to have the first open mali market in the.
Duncan Trussell
Cause it's the Vatican and it's different in a religious. Different laws. Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
It's their own city, so they kind of run what. So we're gonna be selling molly. We're gonna have cocaine Wednesdays where you get a free line on your way in. We're gonna have, you know, paintbrush Tuesdays where you get to do LSD and then paint over.
Duncan Trussell
Fun.
Donnie Rothschild
Paint over.
Duncan Trussell
The Vatican is totally cool with that. They're just like, sure, Donnie, go ahead.
Donnie Rothschild
Well, because we know stuff. We. We kind of know stuff and about.
Duncan Trussell
The Bible and stuff.
Donnie Rothschild
Just about the people inside that church and they don't really want certain stuff out. So.
Duncan Trussell
So you're blackmailing the Vatican.
Donnie Rothschild
Blackmailing. Having a conversation, whatever you would like to say.
Duncan Trussell
You think blackmail is a word being overused these days? Cause of the Epstein list. Because it does appear in some of those emails that he was overtly blackmailing people.
Donnie Rothschild
And again, I think blackmail just seems so. It's like when you say elite, it's too.
Duncan Trussell
I'm sorry, it's like not.
Donnie Rothschild
It's mean spirited.
Duncan Trussell
Right?
Donnie Rothschild
I like to say, if you don't give me what I want, I'm going to ruin you. And that's like just more straightforward. And, you know, these are bad people we're doing this to, you know, like, I know one priest that like, so.
Duncan Trussell
It'S just justice is what you're saying. I think it's good for people to hear this stuff again, like, as a cool guy right now.
Donnie Rothschild
Thank you.
Duncan Trussell
As a cool guy, you are, I would say the best way to describe it is reviled by the masses at this point. I would say that, like in my life, you know, I've seen different moods towards cool guys. And you know, there was a time like in the 80s where you wanted to be a cool guy. And then there was like a time where, you know, that cooled down a little bit, but, you know, it was still okay to be a cool guy. And then lately it feels like there's a growth, growing sense that you can't become a cool guy unless you're born as a cool guy.
Donnie Rothschild
But the thing is, I think most people aren't focusing on how do I become a cool guy, they're just focusing on what are the cool guys up to. Try, like try to become a cool guy.
Duncan Trussell
But it seems just sort of based on the growing disparity between cool guys and not cool. It used to be there was sort of a cool guy, the middle class or about to be a cool guy. But that's seems like that's going away like a sick.
Donnie Rothschild
There used to be sick dudes. Yeah, there used to be sick dudes and then cool guys.
Duncan Trussell
So, yeah, sick dudes.
Donnie Rothschild
Sick dudes are gone. Are kind of gone.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, the sick dudes. So now it's just cool guys and then everybody else. And there's not many cool guys and a lot everybody else. And you know, when, when that seems to be a potentially a security risk, wouldn't you say?
Donnie Rothschild
When you. What do you really want a room full of cool guys then? Because then it's less cool. The thing is, it's like if everybody.
Duncan Trussell
Was a cool guy, everybody was a cool guy.
Donnie Rothschild
If everybody. No cool guys, there would be no cool guys.
Duncan Trussell
Right. You know, if I, I see what you're saying. So like, if every, you know, in other words, like let's say, like for.
Donnie Rothschild
Instance, if everybody had an Epstein's Island, Epstein's island wouldn't have been that special.
Duncan Trussell
Well, I mean, just As a thought experiment, let's imagine that we had an advanced artificial intelligence capable of, in a equitable way, redistributing the imbalanced wealth in the country throughout the global population. Then I think just based on just what I know about how much money cool guys seem to have, that pretty much everyone on the planet would have everything that they needed. You know what I mean? So. So you're saying if that happened, then there would be no more cool guys.
Donnie Rothschild
Also, there would be no more cool guys, and then everybody else would have an easy life. Is that a fun world to be in where everybody's smiling, right? Everybody's like, you know, you're sick and you can just take two weeks off. I kind of want to know that my barista is gonna be there, whether she has the flu, whether she's mom's passed, she knows how to make my coffee, right? I don't want. Oh, I'm gonna go hang out with my daughter. You know, I'm gonna take her to Disneyland. Like, I don't want some schmuck coming in, ruining my coffee. So I think, right. I love those people.
Duncan Trussell
So that's probably. That's like a real problem for cool guys is that sometimes the not cool guys don't wanna go to work, and the cool guys wanna go to, like, get a coffee. And they're the not cool guys. I mean, I think that's called a strike. When the not cool guys decided to not go to work.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, it's just like, we like you. That's why we're like.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
I get it. You're not a cool guy. And it's not like you're lame, but you're just not cool. But we like having you there. You help us out. You make our lives easier.
Duncan Trussell
Serve.
Donnie Rothschild
You help. I like to say help. Serve. Seems a little.
Duncan Trussell
They help the cool guys.
Donnie Rothschild
They help the cool guy. You're our little partner. You're a little.
Duncan Trussell
That's okay. That's a. That's. See, but I feel like these are the kinds of messages that the cool guys need to be getting out into the world.
Donnie Rothschild
That's why I make music.
Duncan Trussell
You guys are our little partners. Or these kinds of things, I think, you know, would make people feel better than, you know, the. The. Some of the stuff that we're. We're sort of seeing, which seems to be not like you're our little partners, but more like you're our little fleshlights. Like, you're just something we. And just dispose of or exploit to some degree. That. That's Kind of the sense a lot of people are getting.
Donnie Rothschild
The thing is, my driver got mad at me a while back because I used to. For, like, 20 years. I called him, you're my Santa's Little Helper. And he just kept saying, I'm 76. Please call me Rick. That's my name. And I go, all right. Santa's Little Helper. He goes, this seems great.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, it's a little condescending.
Donnie Rothschild
No, but it's like, it's. I'm Santa, and you're helping me out. Like, I'm the big guy. I'm the boss.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
I'm the. And you're helping me. Without you, we're. I'm gonna drive.
Duncan Trussell
Who is Santa without the elves?
Donnie Rothschild
Exactly.
Duncan Trussell
Who.
Donnie Rothschild
You're a little. You're a little more worker B. And as Santa, I love you. The thing is, what. We tell that story to our children.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
Santa's the man. And he has, like, these little. Not little elves someone makes. Hey, is there a movie called, you know, Little Elves? No. There's Santa Claus 1, Santa Claus 2, Santa Claus 3. All movies are about Santa. The big guy, the cool guy.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
That's who we are.
Duncan Trussell
He's kind of like the Andy Warhol of Christmas. He's surrounded by other artists that no one will ever hear about, but, like, also arguably out. I mean, lifting some of their talent for his own.
Donnie Rothschild
Exactly, dude. And that's the message. I'm just trying to say, just because you're not a cool guy.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
Doesn't mean you don't have purpose. We need you and we love you.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
But it's just like, when you guys come after us, it's really making it hard to really like you guys anymore.
Duncan Trussell
So, yeah, it's kind of like you're.
Donnie Rothschild
Making us want to pick you up, put your head in the toilet, and give you a swirly like it's. As a cool guy would I do.
Duncan Trussell
You know, because you're a cool guy and you come from a family of cool guys. I am really curious about what your thoughts are about the recent innovations that have been happening in artificial intelligence. I'm sure you're aware that in the last, like, week or so, OpenAI released a new model of GPT. Anthropic, released another version of Claude. Claude Opus Something. And weirdly, during the last few days, people have started resigning from those companies and posting sort of ominous seeming resignation letters and cryptic resignation letters that seem to point towards an impending future where there aren't really any more jobs for anyone. And I'm kind of interested in your take as a cool guy on what happens to all those people who don't have jobs anymore and what happens to the economy.
Donnie Rothschild
Would you. The Wall Street Journal's gonna be pissed about this. But I like you and I really appreciate it. Especially you changing the terminology. You, like, learn fast.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
And that's why you. You. You are my favorite, like, you know, little helper. That's why you're one of my favorite little helpers. Thank you. And so I. I guess. Josh, I sent you an email. Let's show them. I'm actually working on a project. It is a new. It's a new world, honestly, for guys like you who feel like they're. They're struggling and, you know, they want more fulfillment in their life. And. It's called Donnie's World.
Duncan Trussell
I feel. I feel pretty good. I love my family. So what are we looking at here? I'm seeing like a. I don't know. There's a guy, looks like a hospital. He's in a pod of sorts. So what's this?
Donnie Rothschild
So this is how we're gonna get you into Donnie's World.
Duncan Trussell
Donnie's World?
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, it's like a fun new place. A new virtual hangout.
Duncan Trussell
Like a video game.
Donnie Rothschild
Video game? I wouldn't say game. It's not a game.
Duncan Trussell
So what happen.
Donnie Rothschild
We're not playing games here. This is like. This is the new reality.
Duncan Trussell
So this is like VR. You go in this. It projects you into some kind of world or something.
Donnie Rothschild
No, no, no. So we sit you in there and we take out all your, like, your vital fluids and, like, your. Your. Your brain, we turn it into mush and it starts coming out of your body. And then we. We put it in these little capsules, and with this, we can put you into Donnie's World. So you're going to be.
Duncan Trussell
So you're go. You Wait, you're saying you, you. You. What. What about the body? What about you what?
Donnie Rothschild
We, you know, we use. We'll use the body. We'll. So a lot of the fluid will be used for medical advances to help, like, people live longer.
Duncan Trussell
But what about. If you want. You're just. You're saying. It sounds like what. You're talking about some kind of consciousness upload.
Donnie Rothschild
Correct. But we're like. Yeah, but we're getting rid of your body. We're gonna be retooling your body because there's some. There are some cool guys that they're getting up there and they're getting really sick. And I think we could all agree we don't want more cool guys to pass because, like, you, like, you even said, there's not many of us.
Duncan Trussell
Right?
Donnie Rothschild
There's only a couple of us. Everybody else.
Duncan Trussell
It's almost like you're, like, you could almost like there's probably more endangered tigers than there are cool guys.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah. We are an endangered species.
Duncan Trussell
How does this work?
Donnie Rothschild
Like, so we're. So we're gonna start out picking, I think, people that are struggling the most. I think we're gonna like people on welfare, the homeless. We're gonna start taking them because their life here on this world isn't going. It's brutal. It's. It sucks to see. So what we're doing is because.
Duncan Trussell
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Donnie Rothschild
Legally we need their approval, we need their signature. We can't just, we just can't just take them, put them in Donnie's world. Even though if I did it would, I would be helping them out.
Duncan Trussell
Right?
Donnie Rothschild
But so we're doing a thing like a little offer for the first six months if you, the, if you sign up earlier, you're gonna have a better life in Donnie's world. Really?
Duncan Trussell
So there's different kinds of lives in Donnie's world?
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, you get a pick. So we're gonna have like musicians, we're have politicians, we're presidents, we're gonna have, you know, so the jobs are gonna fill up. Some jobs, there's a lot of, you know. So you don't want to sign up late because you don't want to go into Donnie's world and just be a non cool guy.
Duncan Trussell
Right?
Donnie Rothschild
You could be a little, you could, if you wait too long, you might be a little helper here and then also be a little helper.
Duncan Trussell
You don't want that.
Donnie Rothschild
You don't want that. So sign up quick.
Duncan Trussell
Okay.
Donnie Rothschild
You could be.
Duncan Trussell
Anyone can do this, anyone can do that. Okay guys, down below, I'll put the link if you're interested in going to Donnie's World. So let's see it. What do we got. Can you show me Donnie's.
Donnie Rothschild
This is again. The Wall Street Journal is going to be pissed, but thank you. I like you. And I want to give you the exclusive.
Duncan Trussell
Exclusive on the dtfh. Here we go.
Donnie Rothschild
Ready? Let's go. Look how excited he is. So fun. Little process, a little screen comes up.
Duncan Trussell
Yep. And then.
Donnie Rothschild
And that's.
Duncan Trussell
That's the stuff you were talking. The plasma.
Donnie Rothschild
That's the plasma. All the goop. And look at him now.
Duncan Trussell
Back into my body.
Donnie Rothschild
Everything's better in Donny World. Look how happy I am.
Duncan Trussell
Can you pause it, Josh?
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah.
Duncan Trussell
Just to be clear. So this. You're saying that that guy who just, I guess, got liquefied, for lack of a better word, his consciousness is now in this sort of minecrafty place.
Donnie Rothschild
So that was my old college roommate, Steven. And his life was just falling apart. You know, job, you know, he had a. He had a wife and kids or whatever. But, like, they kind. They were just lame. Like, they. His wife would get mad when we'd go out, you know.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
And so I was like. I was like, steve, do you want to just be, like, free? Do you want to do whatever you want?
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
Do you want to be the king of your own universe? So he signed up first, and look what he has is a castle that.
Duncan Trussell
His castle.
Donnie Rothschild
His castle. He can invite whoever he wants. He makes the rules of that castle. He thought his home was a castle. That's actually castle.
Duncan Trussell
Can he feel? You can feel in there?
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah, you can feel you can do whatever. There are no laws in his castle. He can do. You know, he loved the diddy parties, so Stevie loved going to the diddy parties, so he's basically recreating that in there, in that castle.
Duncan Trussell
Can you keep playing it? I guess.
Donnie Rothschild
Josh.
Duncan Trussell
Wow. This is crazy technology.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah. Look how happy he is. I love. Water.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
Only smile in Donny World ain't no frowns on me I'm so happy in Donnie world. Cause in Donny World I'm free. Do you have to pay your rent? Heck, no.
Duncan Trussell
Do you ever get sick?
Donnie Rothschild
Heck no.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
Do you remember your past?
Duncan Trussell
No.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
Cause the present's all there is to know. Home is where the heart is it's not where you're not free. So why not move to Donnie World and be who you were meant to be?
Donnie Rothschild
Pause real quick. Also, can you go back a few frames where we see everybody just hanging out? This is another thing I think people should be excited about.
Duncan Trussell
So those are all people who had their bodies liquefied.
Donnie Rothschild
These are all people on the Bridge. And look how happy they are. So that's why we're saying, sign up quick. You could be that happy. These are the elite of Donnie's World right now. These are the cool guys at Donnie's World. And the cool thing, and this is why we should not be getting hate for this is. Everybody looks the same, right? In Donnie's World.
Duncan Trussell
Well, it's like this smiley face emoji.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah. But everybody's the same. We're here in this world, in this. Can I be honest? Disgusting world, we deal with racism, we deal with, you know, sexism, we deal with homophobia. Here, everybody's the same.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah. They don't even seem like they have, like. Unless you wait gender.
Donnie Rothschild
Unless you wait. So to sign up for Donnie's World, the longer you wait, the darker the yellow gets. And.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
You don't want to be a dark yellow.
Duncan Trussell
So what?
Donnie Rothschild
You don't want to be a dark yellow in Donnie's World, do you?
Duncan Trussell
Do you guys?
Donnie Rothschild
I'm sorry, I'm just getting emotional.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, me too.
Donnie Rothschild
Just seeing my. My. My little. My little guys.
Duncan Trussell
I never thought this kind of tech would exist.
Donnie Rothschild
My little guys. Look at them. They're thriving, man. These. They're so happy.
Duncan Trussell
And so do you guys. Do you think cool guys are eventually gonna dissolve their bodies and go into Donnie's world, too?
Donnie Rothschild
No, that's for them. I don't wanna. That's. I want. That's for guys like that. That's for that. Cause I don't wanna. Because I'm gonna go in there and I've experienced it. I'm experiencing it here.
Duncan Trussell
Right.
Donnie Rothschild
So let me just have this world.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
You guys enjoy that.
Duncan Trussell
So you bait.
Donnie Rothschild
I'm kind of being nice. I'm being sweet.
Duncan Trussell
I mean, it's. Before we keep playing, it does kind of seem like. Not to oversimplify it, but it does kind of seem like the cool guys have decided to invite poor people to liquefy their bodies into some kind of plasma to. To keep rich people alive while they go into this sort of Minecraft world.
Donnie Rothschild
See, the thing is, it might sound like that.
Duncan Trussell
It seems like it's exactly what it is.
Donnie Rothschild
Fair. But the thing is, I feel like, again, this is you as a podcaster. I get it. You know, you're a comedian. Podcaster.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah.
Donnie Rothschild
You trying to get clicks?
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Andy Murray
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James Harkin
That's right. We do facts. We do weird facts, fun facts, facts you've never heard before. James, give us a fact.
Andy Murray
Did you know you may be able to cure chronically blocked noses with a snot transplant?
James Harkin
Lovely, lovely fact.
Andy Murray
If you want to hear us, go to wherever you get your podcast and search for no Such Thing as a Fish.
James Harkin
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Duncan Trussell
I don't think I'm trying to get close. I think it's just clearly like you. You. It's like, it seems like cool guys want to liquefy poor people.
Donnie Rothschild
Again, it's negative. Duncan, I don't mean to be. Nay, no, this is the one thing about you. I love you to death. I really do. But it's the same thing. When you called me an elite, you. You go back to these non cool guy tendencies of using harsh words, bullying. You're misconstruing what I'm doing. What I'm doing here is we take your body, we liquefy it, we help our fellow cool guys get healthier, live longer, and you get a good fucking life. That's what it is. Why don't you just say, hey, if your life is shitty, you can have a cool life, too. That's what it is. Why are you bringing up the goo? Why are you bringing up any. Just say, holy shit, this is duh.
Duncan Trussell
Well, I get it. Cause you do.
Donnie Rothschild
You are.
Duncan Trussell
Listen, this is what I love about being your little helper is that you.
Donnie Rothschild
You do.
Duncan Trussell
You do have a way of, like, you know, pointing out biases I wasn't aware of. And I guess, you know, to argue for this, you know, we are looking at, you know, probably over, what, 60% unemployment within the next year.
Donnie Rothschild
Yeah.
Duncan Trussell
The complete collapse of society. Of society. And when that happens, do you really want to be in that kind of world when, you know, a lot of people can't afford health insurance? And so I'm assuming these little emojis don't get sick in there.
Donnie Rothschild
They don't get. No one gets sick. Everybody's hanging out. Everybody's having fun. The. Cool. And the thing is. And I don't want to say this to you because I. Like I said I love you.
Duncan Trussell
Thank you.
Donnie Rothschild
But, like, Stevie, the guy in the video you saw started talking like that. Hey, man, like, right. Why you guys have so much power? Why can't you, like, maybe help out the people? Well, yeah, he started talking like that. Hey, man, like, my. You know, my wife is sick. Could you help me maybe, like, with some of her medical. He. He just wanted and want. He was greedy. Greedy. And so that's why I put them. I convinced him to sign up for this program. The thing is, Duncan, I like how you are now, and I want you to be around here. I like coming on the show. You help promote my music. You help promote my projects. So I'm just saying, if you keep acting up, I might.
Duncan Trussell
I might.
Donnie Rothschild
I have to put you in. In Donnie's world if you keep. Because it's like. And I don't want to do that to you or your children because I.
Duncan Trussell
Like having you or my children or your.
Donnie Rothschild
I like having you guys.
Duncan Trussell
You know, it does that, though. But, you know, I don't want to be negative, and I don't want to upset you or any of the other.
Donnie Rothschild
Cool guys, so just watch your words.
Duncan Trussell
Okay? Let's keep rolling this thing.
Donnie Rothschild
You're the devil. I don't know why you have him on this podcast. He's the devil. Shut the up.
Duncan Trussell
Shut the up. Just shut him. All right?
Donnie Rothschild
I don't. I don't speak Spanish.
Duncan Trussell
Sorry. Yeah, he's. It's.
Donnie Rothschild
I didn't. I did not understand.
Duncan Trussell
Donnie. I'm sorry. Josh is.
Donnie Rothschild
It's cool that you're.
Duncan Trussell
Yeah, Josh is getting off. Lexapro. Let's. Are you serious? Just play the thing, Josh, where you're.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
Not free, so why not move to Donnie World and be who you were meant to be? Donny World. I'm moving to Donnie World.
Duncan Trussell
Catchy.
Donnie Rothschild (Singing/Character Voice)
Leave my body at the door. What the heck was that? Body for Donny World. Let's move to Donny World.
Donnie Rothschild
We have birds, blue birds. You can have red birds, brown birds, black birds, whatever you want. People are flying. That's cool as hell.
Duncan Trussell
What was that at the end that they all did? They made, like, a pentagram star?
Donnie Rothschild
No, it was cool. That was just. That's the symbol. That's our symbol of Donnie World. That is your God. That is your temple. The. That is who you pray to in Donnie World.
Duncan Trussell
Well, Donnie, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show and apologize for Josh's belligerence.
Donnie Rothschild
It's. It's fine. Josh, actually.
Duncan Trussell
Josh, please don't do anything after this episode.
Donnie Rothschild
Let's talk. I know.
Duncan Trussell
Don't talk to him.
Donnie Rothschild
We actually have a new opening in.
Duncan Trussell
Donnie's World, so I need him as a podcast. Please, just. Donnie, I know you are, man. Just go.
Donnie Rothschild
Need a custodian.
Duncan Trussell
Your blood sugar. Just get. Go get it. Go get a coffee or something. I'm telling you, I'll talk to him. That will never happen again. Josh, do you think you could please just apologize to Donnie Rothschild?
Donnie Rothschild
Sure.
Duncan Trussell
I'm sorry, Satan. All right. Thank you guys for watching. Thank you, Donnie. Sorry that it. We had to end on that.
Donnie Rothschild
What the was that? And who the dude? Get rid of him. He sucks.
Duncan Trussell
He's. He's a good guy. Dude. That was. That was Donnie Rothchild, everybody. Yeah, well, yeah, thank you. We'll be back next week. Just shut it off, Josh. We gotta talk.
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Andy Murray
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James Harkin
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Andy Murray
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James Harkin
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Andy Murray
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James Harkin
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Release date: February 16, 2026
Guest: Donny Rothschild (Grammy-winning musician, Rothschild family heir)
In this glittering and satirical episode, Duncan hosts Donny Rothschild—a fictional, over-the-top scion of extreme wealth and a recent Grammy award winner. The conversation gallops through topics of class, privilege, conspiracy theories (Epstein files and “elite” behavior), the social role of the wealthy (or as Donny insists, “cool guys”), and a darkly comedic vision for the future of civilization and AI. Throughout, the duo use biting humor and parody to lampoon pop culture, wealth disparity, and how the super-wealthy interact with the rest of the world.
| Time | Segment/Topic | |----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Duncan describes the tension around “elites,” introduces Donny Rothschild | | 03:56 | Donny’s take on class resentment and reincarnation | | 06:30 | Discussing how hard it is to win a Grammy when rich/mainstream celebrity jokes | | 10:44 | Nepotism accusations and Donny’s response | | 13:06 | Music video spectacle with darkly comic lyrics about class and society | | 17:13 | Epstein files: discussing/unpacking redacted emails | | 23:05 | Vatican nightclub and the euphemism of blackmail (control and leverage themes) | | 25:47 | “Sick dudes,” the vanishing middle class, and class stratification | | 32:33 | Introduction and demonstration of “Donnie’s World” consciousness upload | | 42:09 | Egalitarian VR, the “smiley face” homogenization, and in-world stratification | | 43:36 | Cool guys’ refusal to join Donnie’s World; benevolence or exploitation? | | 48:29 | Donny’s threat to upload Duncan and family for asking questions | | 49:15 | Closing music and Donnie's World jingle | | 50:11 | Farewells, Duncan’s attempt to apologize and Donny’s lingering frustration |
Episode 738 of the DTFH is a razor-sharp, satirical rollercoaster through the psyche of the ultra-wealthy. Donny Rothschild embodies the self-justifying, otherworldly logic of unfathomable privilege, complete with a plan to literally upload and control the underclasses. Using absurdity and dark humor, Duncan and Donny lampoon societal divides, power structures, and the future of AI, ultimately holding up a mirror to contemporary anxieties about class, technology, and who truly pulls the strings.