Episode 341 – Josh Widdicombe / Chloe Petts / Dad Energy

Summary

Ed Gamble & Matthew Crosby on Radio X

Episode 341 – Josh Widdicombe / Chloe Petts / Dad Energy
Date: January 4, 2026
Podcast Theme: A comedy breakfast show featuring irreverent banter, celebrity guests, dad anecdotes, New Year’s resolutions, and uniquely British comedic takes on everyday life—plus a hearty dose of catfish facts, heavy metal, and listener interaction.

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Episode Overview

In this laughter-packed episode, Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby (Crunch & Crumble) return for the first Radio X show of 2026. The duo are joined by comedians Josh Widdicombe and Chloe Petts for wide-ranging, often absurd chats about New Year’s resolutions, “dad energy,” podcast launches, jumpers (sweaters), pop culture, childhood responsibilities, and the joys and horrors of British breakfast radio. True to Radio X’s “proper radio show presented by comedians” spirit, the episode is loaded with tongue-in-cheek self-deprecation, send-ups of radio clichés, and off-the-cuff insights into modern parenthood, culture, and comedy.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Starting the Show: Podcast vs Radio (00:10–03:00)

• Ed and Matthew open with meta-chat, joking about their status as the “most popular podcast of all time,” rivaling Joe Rogan.
• Their banter skewers the gap between what’s allowed on radio vs. podcast, with Matthew opining, “That’s the whole point of a podcast—to be able to say 'cake day'.” (03:43)
• They riff on the joys of hypothetical mega wealth, and how they'd handle being billionaires, with mock ethical quandaries.
  • Matthew: “I’d be one of the really, really unethical ones... Sorry, I can't hear you. I've invested in some really good headphones. That's how much money I got. I've got the best headphones that block out negative thoughts.” (01:24)

2. Radio Resolutions & Dad Energy (08:32–15:04)

• Ed and Matthew discuss New Year’s resolutions, the “pressure” of dry January, and the futility of denying oneself all pleasures (especially wine).
  • Ed: “So you lasted three days of dry January.” (09:43)
• The hosts declare 2026 their “Year of the Real Radio Show”: “Let’s remove the irony in 2026.” (11:03)
• The team debates what “dry” can ever be positive for ("You don't want dry food. You don't want dry skin... What are good dry things? No one wants to go and live out in the desert" – Ed, 12:18).
• “Dad energy” gets explored with Matthew describing a 90-minute stint watching a friend’s child: “Spoiler: The kid's still alive.” (15:00)
  • Ed offers parenting tips: “You can’t have uncle energy; you’ve got to have dad energy. Dad energy is a little bit less patience.” (20:28)

3. Listener Emails, Music Picks, and Indie Bants (15:17–17:08 & 23:20–26:08)

• Reactions to the Radio X record of the year (Wolf Alice) and playful complaints about their own (joke) choices being ignored.
  • Ed: “Shut up of your face. It's such a good song.” (16:49)
• Deep dive into jumpers: Ed debuts a “statement” car-crash jumper, seeking verdicts from guests and listeners.
  • Ed (on wearing a women’s jumper): “I definitely bought it from the women's section of this website.” (24:41)
  • Matthew: “I actually really like it on you.” (26:03)

4. Josh Widdicombe Interview & The Pop Culture Museum Podcast (27:37–47:48)

• Josh enters as “first scoop for Daddy” and exchanges classic banter about Red Hot Chili Peppers fandom (“Naked butt, free sock over my genitals at this point.” – Josh, 28:14).
• Hilarity from a slapdash guest info sheet ("All we've got written down here is ‘Welcome’. So we've got to welcome you. And we've done that. The next question is ‘What are you plugging?’" – Matthew, 28:40)
• Josh promotes his new podcast “Josh Widdicombe’s Museum of Pop Culture,” described as “old guys having a chinwag” but with real research.
  • Josh: “Imagine the Rest Is History podcast, but about things we're actually interested in—i.e. things that don't matter.” (32:42)
  • Trivia highlight: Pete Waterman, famed pop producer, "didn’t learn to read and write until his mid-forties...he was in a class of 63 children" (34:14–34:28).
• Extended riff about Tom Holland the historian vs Tom Holland the actor/Spider-Man:
  • Josh: "In my world, [the historian] is a much bigger deal than the Spider-man, who I don't care about." (36:23)

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5. “Big Questions” with Josh Widdicombe (40:38–47:48)

• Why Are You Always Standing in the Thoroughfare? (41:05–43:46)
  • Josh delivers an unexpectedly philosophical answer about the human tendency to focus on discomfort rather than comfort:
    “That’s the human condition… you only think about thoroughfares when you’re in the thoroughfare.” (42:11)
• What’s Embarrassing, But Shouldn’t Be?
  • Buying pants or toilet paper: “It's really embarrassing buying pants, even though everyone owns pants.” (45:25)
• Josh’s Verdict on Ed’s Jumper
  • Josh (on seeing Ed’s controversial jumper): “Of course I don’t like it. You look like Gyles Brandreth.” (46:49)

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6. Chloe Petts Interview: Lad Culture, Big Naturals & Ooh Yummy (49:33–66:01)

• Chloe is introduced as “headline scoop for Daddy”.
  • Playful discomfort with being described as “delicious” and “yummy”:
    Chloe: “Oh, yummy.” (50:23)
    Ed: "Well, you are, you are yummy. You're absolutely delicious." (50:23)
• Chloe describes her show “Big Naturals”, about growing up around lad culture:
  • "All the music that you're going to be listening to, I do a routine about Kasabian, do a routine about football, do a routine about Charlie Dimmock's Big, Big Gnats." (53:27)
• They discuss “patting yourself on the back” technique, leading to a whole debate and Ed’s back-diagram for Instagram (52:13)
• Chloe’s “Ooh Yummy” catchphrase devolves into a discussion about domain names:
  • Vin the Producer: “Oohyummy.com is available. For $4,000 at the moment.” (56:42)
• Chloe shares a comedic failed “noble experiment”: opening her comedy show to the tune of “You Can’t Touch This,” with the lyrics changed to “Big Naturals”—and an unexpected, awkward audience reaction.
  • Chloe: “I put the mic in a man's face thinking he was gonna go ‘Big Naturals’. And he just went, what?” (57:53)
• The team and Chloe brainstorm a game show called “Pooh Bet,” in which contestants must guess if someone is pooing or not, based solely on their top halves (64:20).

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7. Final Banter & Listener Questions (66:01–73:00)

• Chloe’s verdict on Ed's jumper—diffident in person, but in a photo says, "I like your jumper, Ed."
• Matthew and Ed discuss the etiquette of wearing band T-shirts to gigs (68:30)
• Beck Recs (recommendations):
  • Matthew recommends the musical "Old Mary" and the TV series Broadchurch.
  • Ed reminisces about the Bromley Panto ("Sue Pollard was in it." 73:16).
  • Vin (Producer) recommends Park Chan-wook's new film “No Other Choice,” praising the inventive editing (73:49).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Meta-Humor, Podcast vs. Radio (00:25–01:03)

• Ed (re: podcast exclusivity): “This did not go out to the nation. This is just the two of us.”
• Matthew: “I hope it's going out to the nation right now. I hope everyone in the nation's listening to this.”

On Being Billionaires (01:22–01:25)

• Matthew: “I’d be one of the really, really unethical ones… Sorry, I can’t hear you. I’ve invested in some really good headphones.”

Dry January Discussion (12:06–12:49)

• Ed: "You don't want dry food. You don't want dry skin, do you? You don't want a conversation to feel a little bit dry."

On Dad Energy & Parenting (13:24–14:41)

• Ed: “My morning will start when the kids decide it starts. I can’t be partying until 3am if I’m gonna get up at 4am.”
• Matthew: “You know, you need to sort those kids out, man. Why are they in charge?”
• Ed: “You can’t have uncle energy; you’ve got to have dad energy.”

Debate Over Pop Culture Podcast (32:42–33:39)

• Josh Widdicombe: "Imagine the Rest Is History podcast, but about things we’re actually interested in. I.e. things that don’t matter. Pop culture is the lifeblood. We live in a world that cares more about Taylor Swift than Keir Starmer, and here’s to more of that, right?"

Philosophy of Standing in Thoroughfares (41:36–42:22)

• Josh: “That’s the human condition… you only think about thoroughfares when you’re in the thoroughfare.”

On “Big Naturals” and Laddism (53:27–54:07)

• Chloe Petts: "It’s kind of about growing up on lad culture…do a routine about Kasabian, do a routine about football, do a routine about Charlie Dimmock’s Big, Big Gnats.”
• Matthew: “You are the most laddish comic I’ve seen in years.”

Failed Audience Participation (57:53)

• Chloe: “I put the mic in a man's face thinking he was gonna go ‘Big Naturals.’ And he just went, what?”

Debate on Patting Backs (51:08–52:17)

• Chloe: “When you pat yourself on the back, how do you do it?”
• Ed: “It’s got to be cross across the chest because it’s almost a little hug…”

Chloe’s Comedy Show – Audience Reactions (58:37–59:17)

• Chloe: "I tried to change the opening of the show…just walked on going, 'Big naturals.'...And put the mic in a man's face thinking he was gonna go 'big naturals.' And he just went, what?"

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:10–03:00 – Podcast cold open: “sclusie” content, podcast/radio boundaries, jokes about being the #1 podcast
• 08:32–15:04 – Resolutions, “dad energy”, dry January, and starting 2026 as a “real” radio show
• 23:20–26:08 – Ed’s controversial car-crash jumper, fashion chat, and audience verdicts
• 27:37–47:48 – Josh Widdicombe’s appearance; launching “Museum of Pop Culture”; classic banter about pop music and comedians
• 41:05–43:46 – “Why am I always in the thoroughfare?”; philosophical detour
• 49:33–54:53 – Chloe Petts interview: “Big Naturals”, lad culture reclaiming, and self-patting technique
• 56:06–58:49 – “Ooh Yummy” branding, domain name discussion, and Chloe’s failed bit
• 64:20–65:04 – Pooh Bet game show pitch
• 66:01–68:09 – Chloe’s verdict on jumpers; gig/Band T-shirt etiquette
• 68:30–73:56 – Beck Recs (theatre, TV, films), Pantos and Park Chan-wook
• 70:00–72:43 – “Broadchurch” TV review and nostalgia
• 73:43–end – Film/life recommendations, wrap-up banter

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Tone & Style

The episode is characterized by fast-paced, playful, and self-deprecating humor—classic British banter. Ed and Matthew are masters of taking familiar “radio” or “parent” topics and twisting them for absurd comic effect, supported by dry wit, the occasional philosophical flourish (especially with Josh), and lots of audience engagement in-jokes. Both guests, Josh Widdicombe and Chloe Petts, run with the show’s madness, gamely enduring and elevating Ed and Matthew’s relentless riffing.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

If you like comedy that blurs the lines between high-brow philosophy and low-brow toilet gags, find warmth in jokes about indie dad dilemmas, and appreciate comedians gleefully anthropologizing pop culture, this is a must-listen.
Highlights include Josh Widdicombe’s musings on the meaning of standing in a concert thoroughfare and Chloe Petts’ efforts to reclaim—and rib—classic British “lad” culture with a feminist twist.
Tune in for deeply unserious debates that verge on wisdom, plus tips on how to survive dry January, wear jumpers with pride, and (maybe) start your own “Ooh Yummy” movement for 2026.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Ed Gamble]

This is a global player original podcast.

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby, Radio X.

[Matthew Crosby]

Hello and welcome to the Ed Gamble Matthew Crosby podcast on Radio X, which is of the radio show that we do. We sort of just play up bits from that really.

[Ed Gamble]

It's basically that.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, this isn't it though.

[Ed Gamble]

No, this isn't going on the radio.

[Matthew Crosby]

No, this isn't going on the radio. This is just us. Just.

[Ed Gamble]

This is just. Do you know what? This is a real sclusie for you guys. This did not go out to the nation. This is just the two of us.

[Matthew Crosby]

I hope it's going out to the nation right now. I hope everyone in the nation's listening to this.

[Ed Gamble]

Is this Now, I haven't checked the charts recently. Are we the most popular. Are we the most popular podcast of all time?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Really? I was wondering where I was getting all those sort of mean spirited DMs from Alistair Campbell.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. And Joe Rogan.

[Ed Gamble]

Joe Rogan. Watch out, Rogan. We're coming for you. We're coming for you all the way to the top. I'd love to go on the Joe Rogan show, wouldn't you? No, I think you'd be. Did you not go on? Didn't you go on and smoke weed with him? That already happened.

[Matthew Crosby]

Ye.

[Ed Gamble]

And all the stocks in off menu fell.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, I would love to be that rich.

[Ed Gamble]

Wouldn't it be great?

[Matthew Crosby]

It would be.

[Ed Gamble]

I'd be one of the good ones. No, you know, like, because Beyonce's just become a billionaire. Paul McCartney was a billionaire, became a billionaire a couple of years earlier. I'd be one of those guys. No, I'd be a Taylor Swift.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'd be one of the really, really unethical ones.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah, I've gone.

[Matthew Crosby]

We never like going, why are you doing that? You're killing loads of people just to get money. I'd just, I'd be like, sorry, I can't hear you. I've invested in some really good headphones. That's how much money I' got. I've got the best headphones that block out negative thoughts.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, they're not going to block out negative thought. You, you know, all you'd have is negative thoughts. Other people's negative thoughts you'd block out. Sure.

[Matthew Crosby]

But I wouldn't consider them negative. That's how good the headphones are.

[Ed Gamble]

They turn all your negativity positive.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.

[Ed Gamble]

You know what?

[Matthew Crosby]

No, I wouldn't.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, I think you'd be. And I think you wouldn't be able to Handle the pressure of that, of that kind.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think the only thing. Win the lottery. That's the only way you can be mega rich without being unethical.

[Ed Gamble]

I'd love to be a lotto lout.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'd be such a good lotto.

[Ed Gamble]

I think I'd be a great lotto lout. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

You'd burn through all the money in eight months and then back on the radio, there'd be a picture of you in the sun with your top off back in the radioact studio.

[Ed Gamble]

If I won, like, you know, whatever, it would be 10 million, 15 million, something like that, I would do like an MC Hammer. I would buy a big glass house, massive pair of trousers. Obviously, that's my New Year's resolution, of course, as we know, is to buy a big pair of trousers. But I'd buy a massive glass house on the highest hill in Beckenham. Beckenham Hill. Beckenham Hill, that's right, yeah. I would buy a big glass house so people could look up and see me in my big glass house and aspire to be as amazing as me, like MC Hammer did.

[Matthew Crosby]

There's Matthew in his kitchen again.

[Ed Gamble]

It's Pancake day after all.

[Matthew Crosby]

Cake day.

[Ed Gamble]

I hope this isn't going out. That'd be very, very poor stuff. What? You're. Surely you're allowed to say the W word on the air, aren't you? Of course.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, give it a go.

[Ed Gamble]

We haven't done the show yet.

[Matthew Crosby]

We can say the W word.

[Ed Gamble]

Surely you can say the W word on the air.

[Vin (Producer)]

You can say wolf Alice.

[Ed Gamble]

Of course you can say wolf Alice, because that's got the word phallus in it. Yeah, sort of, yeah. That's what you. That's what you do it with. Hell, yeah. I've definitely done it, guys.

[Matthew Crosby]

I have.

[Ed Gamble]

Honestly, I know exactly how to do it. I know exactly how to do it. Do you know, I could tell you something about. About my history of.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, no. Is this the white dress car park story?

[Ed Gamble]

No, it's different from that.

[Matthew Crosby]

I.

[Ed Gamble]

This is genuinely true. It was only when I saw somebody giving the, you know that the sign.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's how you learned how to do it.

[Ed Gamble]

I was like, I've been doing it wrong. Genuinely, I've been doing it wrong. And do you want to know how I used to do it? This is. This is gonna blow.

[Matthew Crosby]

You know what? I don't.

[Vin (Producer)]

This shouldn't be on this podcast.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, okay, fine. Tell you what, I won't tell you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Good.

[Ed Gamble]

I won't tell you, mate.

[Matthew Crosby]

Look. Sundayadiox.co.uk how did you think. How do you think Matthew used.

[Ed Gamble]

I think that's worse than me just telling people.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, look, we're still on the air. We can do it as a texter.

[Ed Gamble]

We can make it part of the show.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Anyway, yes, if you'd like to. If you'd like.

[Matthew Crosby]

Against furniture.

[Vin (Producer)]

Let's move on. Come on. So many bleeps in this section already.

[Matthew Crosby]

No way. Where?

[Vin (Producer)]

All over the place. All over the shop.

[Matthew Crosby]

Cake day.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yep.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's not. It's not a bleep.

[Vin (Producer)]

Of course it is.

[Matthew Crosby]

Jesus Christ, Vin. This is the whole point of a podcast to be able to say cake day.

[Ed Gamble]

Anyway, Stuart Burns got in touch to say hello.

[Matthew Crosby]

Enema G. Oh, no, not another one.

[Ed Gamble]

You can't have that, can we?

[Matthew Crosby]

Is that how you used to do it?

[Ed Gamble]

Enema g. Hello, Venom McGee, Matty C and Proddy V. Happy Radio, lads. Don't mind if I do. Proddy V. Proddy V. Proddy G. In your. Is the band the Prodigy about somebody trying to stick their finger up their own butt? Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Is that band about that?

[Ed Gamble]

Is that band about that? Is that what Liam. Is that what Liam's.

[Vin (Producer)]

Just breathe.

[Ed Gamble]

Breathe with me.

[Matthew Crosby]

But the thing is, this should be on the podcast. Why isn't this allowed to be on the podcast? Why are we setting on some sense?

[Vin (Producer)]

This is the podcast.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, but you say you're gonna cut it all out.

[Vin (Producer)]

No, I'm gonna cut some of it out.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Or just gotta leave that. Loads of the Proddy G joke.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah, that's staying in. That's fine. It's absolutely fine.

[Matthew Crosby]

Let's get it out of the system before we're back on the air. Fantastic stuff. One of the funniest bits we've ever done. Anyway, read the email.

[Ed Gamble]

You're not going to believe the email as well. It's incredibly apropos. But. Hello. Happy Radio, lads.

[Matthew Crosby]

Don't mind if I do.

[Ed Gamble]

I found a Morecombe Wise hardback book in a charity shop in Twickenham and was shocked at the gratuitous physical exploitation on display. I guess this is the end for Eric Morcom's reputation. Stuart Byrne. And so the front cover of the book is them, of course, standing in front of the famous red curtain. And the back is. Is their backs. And of course, Eric Morcom is Ernie Wise. So he's proddy cheeing him.

[Matthew Crosby]

There you go.

[Ed Gamble]

He's proud he's proddy cheeing him.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think if someone said, describe what Matthew does on the show, I'd say, well, he talks us through it in detail. The COVID of a Morecombe and Wise book.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, well, it's not my favorite front and back cover of a piece of media. The, the album Sabotage by Black Sabbath. And we talked about this before, but the front covers, them all stood there, you know, looking like hard rockers. And then on the back you can see through. You can see through Bill Ward's leggings, you can see his pants. And it's so at the front, if you. If you ever in a charity shop and you see a copy of Sabotage by Black Sabbath the other day, look.

[Matthew Crosby]

At Bill Ward's pants.

[Ed Gamble]

Look at Bill Ward's pants. Surely somebody spotted that one. Bill either go commando, which is incredibly rock, although probably the front cover would get banned. He'd have to pop a little sticker over it or wear some leather trousers.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think about a lot, many, many years ago, reading an article about Black Sabbath. I think when they. Probably when they had the reunion with Ozzy maybe the first time, and they were on tour and it was like the journalist was following them on tour and Bill Ward is quite big at this point, you know, he'd put on a bit of weight and I just remember they had. They were having a chat and I think Ozzy said, bill, you're supposed to be a vegetarian. What have you eaten? A field? Think about that a lot.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, anyway, thank you very much to. To Stuart there and yeah, keep your emails coming in. Sundayadiox.co.uk you know, of course, what the new texter is that we have in play for the.

[Matthew Crosby]

How do? Matthew did it.

[Ed Gamble]

I used to do it before I realized that that's what the hand signal meant. Anyway, enjoy the episode, have a great time. We've got Josh and Chloe on the show, so, you know, they'll sort it out, won't they?

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

Ray D O X.

[Matthew Crosby]

Good morning, it's Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby on Radio X. It is of course my turn to write this week's intro and I have of course not written anything, so I asked Vin to just pick me some music for the intro.

[Ed Gamble]

Good music, man.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's chosen the 60s Batman music. And let me tell you, I want this every week now.

[Ed Gamble]

It's good, isn't it? If we start the show with Batman and end the show with Only Fools and Horses, we're harking back to a better age, aren't we?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes, and, well, your age. We're harking back to your age. It's a delight to be here. Happy New Year we hope everyone's feeling good out there. We're going to be talking about our resolutions. We're going to be talking about what men we want to be in 2026. Matthew.

[Ed Gamble]

Fantastic. Well, your resolution is, of course, to write fewer intros.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Which is hard to beat on last year.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Because you wrote almost zero last year.

[Josh Widdicombe]

No, no, no.

[Matthew Crosby]

Last year was not bad. The first six months of last year I was still writing. And it's only in the last couple of months that I've really dropped off. But, yes, I'm sticking to the resolution. I'm doing dry January. Two glasses of wine last night, so that one's gone. Really?

[Ed Gamble]

That was.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's gone.

[Ed Gamble]

That's bad news.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's bad news.

[Ed Gamble]

I mean, it's not, but I mean, it's. So what is it today we're talking about? It's the fourth. You lasted three days of dry January.

[Matthew Crosby]

I wasn't really gonna do it dry.

[Ed Gamble]

I can tell.

[Vin (Producer)]

Bit more of a chat than an intro, this.

[Ed Gamble]

It is more of a chat.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Well, that's your fault.

[Ed Gamble]

Listen, hang on a sec. Is that another one of your resolutions, to blame other people for the things you've done wrong?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Vin played the Batman music, so obviously that's going to turn into a chat because old Granddad's going to play. I remember when I used to watch this every Saturday. It was very. And you chimed in too early.

[Ed Gamble]

Sorry, sorry. So it's our fault. You were doing it perfectly.

[Matthew Crosby]

I was about to do my character for the Joker.

[Ed Gamble]

Gone to your character. Ah, it's very good. It's more like Penguin.

[Matthew Crosby]

We got Chloe Pats coming on the show.

[Ed Gamble]

We do. We've got Josh Widdicombe as well.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, do we?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Ooh, yuck. Disgusting. Should we play Sam Fender?

[Matthew Crosby]

Sure.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X. This is Radio X. Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

Welcome to the show. And what a show it is. Ed, you were saying today we're gonna be talking about our resolutions. It's the start of the year. It's the first panic.

[Matthew Crosby]

I just thought that's the sort of thing people do on the radio.

[Ed Gamble]

It does sound like it, doesn't it?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Sometimes I think we should just do the sorts of things people do on the radio.

[Ed Gamble]

What you doing today?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

What's your Sunday looking like?

[Matthew Crosby]

We've done all this.

[Ed Gamble]

We have done it.

[Matthew Crosby]

We've done all this, but in a sort of semi ironic removed tone.

[Ed Gamble]

Let's remove the irony in 2026.

[Matthew Crosby]

Is that your resolution?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, we're just gonna. We're gon. We're gonna play this show with a straight bat. This is gonna become. We've been doing it for nearly seven years now. This is gonna become a real radio show this year. Genuinely it is. This is our resolution here on the Ed Gambler Matthew Crosby radio show on Radio X. We're going to be. We're going to be bigging up the tunes. We're going to be connecting directly, connecting to the listener.

[Matthew Crosby]

We're going to be bigging up the tunes.

[Ed Gamble]

We're going to be picking up the tunes.

[Matthew Crosby]

We can't be big enough.

[Ed Gamble]

God, listen.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, no, we can't.

[Ed Gamble]

We just played Feeder Buck Rogers. How do you not big that up?

[Matthew Crosby]

They're not my sort of thing and no, they're too modern for you.

[Ed Gamble]

No, we cannot have this. We're gonna be playing some absolutely fantastic banging indie anthems coming up. You do not want to move away from your radio.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, good point actually. Don't move away from your radio, everyone.

[Ed Gamble]

Already a better show.

[Matthew Crosby]

Take it with you. Pop your headphones on when you go to the loo.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, don't pop it in the bath, though.

[Matthew Crosby]

Don't pop it in the bath.

[Ed Gamble]

Please don't pop your radio in the bath, guys. That's crucial. So you gonna attempt a sort of mild dry January, A drier January.

[Matthew Crosby]

Drier January. I think we need to re badge dry January making. I think dry January is a bad name.

[Ed Gamble]

Why? Because dry sounds dry.

[Matthew Crosby]

When do you want things to be dry?

[Ed Gamble]

You don't want dry food. You don't want dry skin, do you? You don't want a conversation to feel a little bit dry. You don't want a dry cake. I guess that comes under the bracket of food. But still these are all things that you don't want to be dry. What are good dry things? No one wants to go and live out in the desert. A nice dry towel.

[Matthew Crosby]

Nice dry towel.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. But crucially, I think you'd want soft warm first. Dry. Dry third.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, but you want dry. But I guess your aim is really to make it wet when you use it to take water off your body.

[Ed Gamble]

Exactly right. You want to dry toilet paper.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Stuff that you are using to take thing. Take any moist substance off the body.

[Matthew Crosby]

I suppose that's what you're doing in dry January though, isn't it? You're mopping all the booze off your body.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely right. That's why I swallow a towel. I just slowly let a towel. That's what I did at my New Year's party just before I Go to bed at sort of half past ten?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

On the 31st. I, I slowly eat a towel over the course.

[Matthew Crosby]

Did you go to bed at half 10 for this new Year's?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I did, yeah. I had some notes to do on an uncloak script.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Did those. Went to bed?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ed Gamble]

So boring. Such a boring man. But then, you know, my, my morning will start when the kids decide it starts. I can't be party until, you know, I couldn't party until 2, 3am if I'm gonna get up at, at 4am.

[Matthew Crosby]

You know, you need to sort those kids out, man. Why are they in charge?

[Ed Gamble]

What do you propose? Super.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, you're the adult.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

So you'd be like. No, you get up at like what, 9, 30, 10.

[Ed Gamble]

No way. 9, 30, 10. We're already at a trampoline park.

[Matthew Crosby]

No, but that's because you're taking them there. If you lock your door and turn the lights off, Daddy sleeping.

[Ed Gamble]

I've heard of a, I've heard of a parent who has traffic lights on the door. I thought about that as a good, as a good idea.

[Matthew Crosby]

Huge. That's a huge idea.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you think that's quite a good idea?

[Matthew Crosby]

Treat your children like cars.

[Ed Gamble]

Treat your children like annoying traffic. Yeah, just have. If it's red. No way.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, you cut.

[Ed Gamble]

You're not, you're not coming in. It doesn't matter what time of the day or night it is.

[Matthew Crosby]

If they need big toilet, tell them to hang up the wide load sign.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely. Well, I would hope if they need big toilet, they're not going to my bedroom. That would be, that's the dream.

[Matthew Crosby]

But they don't come and get you.

[Ed Gamble]

No, they can do it themselves.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I mean they can't do it themselves, but they do.

[Matthew Crosby]

You know this. I know all about looking after kids now.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, you, you obviously became a, a short term parent.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. For like 90 minutes.

[Ed Gamble]

You borrowed a child for an hour and a half.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And you messaged me probably 400 times during that. Said how hard it was.

[Matthew Crosby]

We'll talk about that. But this, because I actually, I think, I think we smashed it.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, well, we will talk about this in just a little bit.

[Matthew Crosby]

Spoiler warning. The kid's still alive.

[Ed Gamble]

But first, this was our record of the year. It's the absolutely fantastic W. I'm picking up the tunes. Yeah, it's Wolf Alice with the sofa here on Radio X.

[Matthew Crosby]

What? My record of the year.

[Radio X Announcer]

Crunch and Crumble.

[Ed Gamble]

This is Radio X and she can be free.

[Matthew Crosby]

Wowee. Ed Gamble And Matthew Crosby here on Radio X. That was, of course, Wolf Alice with the Sofa. The Radio X record of the year, Matthew.

[Ed Gamble]

The biggest song of the year out of all of the records of the week. That was the one that the listeners chose as the best song of the year. And what a song. What a tune.

[Matthew Crosby]

What a tune.

[Ed Gamble]

What a tune. And what a lovely piece of software.

[Matthew Crosby]

So play it again, actually.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

Once more.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Look, it's not what we were rooting for.

[Ed Gamble]

He's gone for it. Why not?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, sure.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, it's all money in their pockets, isn't it? Yeah, the Wolfers. But, yeah, it's not the song that we chose. We were. We were really backing Joe Dulce up your Face, weren't we? That was. That was what we were hoping.

[Matthew Crosby]

Come on, how you not answer that? Did we get. Did it get any votes, Finn?

[Vin (Producer)]

No, I did ask and my question wasn't really entertained as a serious question.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Did the people who have to look at the votes and count them all up, do they get quite annoyed with our.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do.

[Matthew Crosby]

Because they have to go to the.

[Vin (Producer)]

You know, it's a busy part. It's the end of the year. It's normally quite busy. Quite stressful. Lots of admin to wrap up.

[Matthew Crosby]

Sure.

[Vin (Producer)]

You know, people are sort of trying to get all the prep done for this so they can have a nice Christmas holiday.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

So they're not that keen on us spoiling the ballad.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, not spoiling the ballot.

[Vin (Producer)]

Not spoiling the ballot.

[Matthew Crosby]

Making the ballot. You know what? Yeah. And you know what I say to those people, Vin, who are complaining about having to work hard at Christmas?

[Vin (Producer)]

What do you say to the mate?

[Matthew Crosby]

Shut up of your face.

[Ed Gamble]

Shut up of your face. It's such a good song. Let's just play this out for a little bit. It's a not so bad. It's a nicer place. I shut up for your face.

[Matthew Crosby]

There we go.

[Ed Gamble]

They just don't write them like that anymore.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's the first punk song.

[Ed Gamble]

It was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the first punk song. It's the first hip hop song. This is.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, it's rapping.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, it's rapping all right. It's. This is. This for us is ground zero for music. Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby, Radio X. Hat hat you, Ed Gamble, were in charge of another human life recently.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, it wasn't really me, basically.

[Ed Gamble]

It wasn't really human. Was pretty human.

[Matthew Crosby]

Me and my wife were just for an afternoon, looking after our friends.

[Ed Gamble]

Child that by the way, is a really. What a responsibility and what an.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, it was mainly my wife's responsibility.

[Ed Gamble]

I was gonna say I would trust your wife more than I would trust you.

[Matthew Crosby]

What a privilege this was last Sunday.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

So I was very tired, obviously. So my wife met up. Met up with our friend, picked up their child.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Took her to the playground, then brought her home and we hung out for a bit.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, lovely. That's perfect. I'll say. Number one, perfect place for a kid. They love the playground. Even in this slightly frosty weather, they still love to run around, have a lot of fun.

[Matthew Crosby]

Great time.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes. Fantastic.

[Matthew Crosby]

And then popped her on the sofa, whacked a film on.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. What did you pop on?

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, here's the problem. We worked on Big Hero 6. I don't know if you've seen Big Hero 6.

[Ed Gamble]

I know of Big Hero 6.

[Matthew Crosby]

Great film. But you do realize when you're watching it with a kid that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

A brother dies within the first half an hour.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. That's, by the way, all kids films.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Somebody has. For some reason, there's something, Someone. Someone in, like, the 1930s went, this is what we're gonna do. Every kid's film is gonna start with a relative dying. Sometimes more than one.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, but. But this film. This is. This film's about a deer. Doesn't matter.

[Matthew Crosby]

Doesn't matter.

[Ed Gamble]

Mummy dying.

[Matthew Crosby]

Dead mum.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

So, you know, me and. Me and Charlie obviously exchanging looks over the child's head, being like, were you.

[Ed Gamble]

Checking in with the child, saying, is this okay? Cause you can always like, we fast forward through a lot of things.

[Matthew Crosby]

So what I've noticed, I don't know if this is true for all children, is when there's a film on or a colorful cartoon on the television, any question you ask them is completely ignored.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Because she was so zoned in on what was going on.

[Ed Gamble]

Can I tell you what we have to do to little Jerry Cinnamon?

[Matthew Crosby]

Go on.

[Ed Gamble]

When the telly's up, if I have to ask her a question like, what do you want for breakfast? I genuinely have to cover her eyes to ask it. I will sit down next to her and I will say, do you want porridge? Do you want cereal? What do you want? And just nothing. And then I'll cover her eyes and I'll say, what do you want? Porridge? And then take the. Like, you're blinkering a horse. Yeah. It's like.

[Matthew Crosby]

Otherwise, it's worrying that, isn't it? It is worrying, brain development wise.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, it's really worrying.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, but what are you gonna do? Talk to him.

[Ed Gamble]

What am I supposed to. What am I supposed to do? I'm trying to make porridge over here.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'd say my wife probably asked this child too often, do you need to go to the toilet?

[Ed Gamble]

But you can't ask too often because the one time you don't ask, that's when you got.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Uh, oh, toilet.

[Ed Gamble]

Uh, oh, toilet.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. But look, very tiring. And I did very little.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, you did send me a message saying it was the hardest 90 minutes of something along those lines.

[Matthew Crosby]

I was trying to make. I was trying to gas you up, man.

[Ed Gamble]

It was working.

[Matthew Crosby]

It was, well, easy. What I would say is, I do. I am the one who gets locked into games.

[Ed Gamble]

Right. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

So it's always me. You've got kids around.

[Ed Gamble]

Here's the problem. What you realize is that you can't have, like, uncle energy.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You've got to have dad energy.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And dad energy is slightly tireder.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, a little bit less patience. That's what you should be doing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Less emotionally accessible.

[Ed Gamble]

Less emotionally accessible, exactly. Yeah. I only talk to you when they cover your eyes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Unfortunately, the game became. She would run into the corridor by the front door. I would go out looking for her and check in all the wrong places.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Great game.

[Matthew Crosby]

And then I'd turn round and she'd run full speed at me, head down towards my genitals.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I've played that game many times.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Yeah. It was like dealing with a goat.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Or a ram.

[Ed Gamble]

And were you matching the energy for the first couple of rounds of the game?

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, fully, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. That's your mistake.

[Matthew Crosby]

No, I was touching the energy every time.

[Ed Gamble]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You've got to really preserve your energy. This is a marathon, not sprint, okay? You've got to give as little as possible. A, so the game doesn't last too long, and B, so that you can carry it on as long as you're it.

[Matthew Crosby]

What lovely memories your children are gonna.

[Vin (Producer)]

Have of you, by the way, I.

[Matthew Crosby]

Tell you, a tired man who never played.

[Ed Gamble]

I'll tell you that what you really.

[Matthew Crosby]

Should do is to cover my eyes.

[Ed Gamble]

You should say, look, we're gonna play hide and seek. And then you sit under the stairs and look at your phone. Yeah, this is.

[Radio X Announcer]

That's Skinny Pig and Satan's Kingdom Radio X.

[Ed Gamble]

A hell of a show we've got for you today.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, yeah, we keep saying it. I mean, what, we're nearly 40 minutes in.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. At any second now, we're Gonna start it. That's gonna be the final lick of the show.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, hell of a show.

[Ed Gamble]

I'll tell you what, we've got a great show ahead of you. It turns out to be his daddy Wallace's show we're talking about. But yeah, we've got two amazing guests. Two scoops for daddy. We've got Josh Widdicombe, the brilliant Josh Widdicombe. You know him, of course, from the last leg. You know him from Taskmaster, the first ever TAs. Taskmaster.

[Matthew Crosby]

We can't be.

[Ed Gamble]

You know him.

[Matthew Crosby]

We're 20. We're 21 series in.

[Ed Gamble]

Do people not know him from Taskmaster?

[Matthew Crosby]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

All right. You know, from Taskmaster, Champion, everything parenting, hell, the sitcom Josh, you know him.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's another old bloke like you. He's an old, new podcast.

[Ed Gamble]

He's going to talk about his old.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's going to talk about Stupid Old Man Podcast.

[Vin (Producer)]

That's what he's on to promote.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, it is, yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Stupid Old Man Podcast.

[Ed Gamble]

He sits down with another old cod, talks about something old and by the way, some of my favorite ever days I've ever had in my life, we're recording that podcast. We've got a few more coming up this year. I cannot wait. Oh, my God, I love it. He sat down, he said, will you sit in a. Will you sit in a hotel room with me and talk about Pete Waterman for an entire day? And I was like, yes, yes, I will.

[Vin (Producer)]

But tell us about the podcast record, though.

[Ed Gamble]

I would have done it even if the mics weren't rolling. Luckily, they were. And you, the listener, get to reap the benefits. Josh Pacific audience Josh. Yeah, and they're all in that hotel room.

[Vin (Producer)]

And Ellis.

[Ed Gamble]

And Ellis is around, would like it, too.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X. Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Matthew Crosby]

Block party on Radio X. It's Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby with you, of course, until legs 11.

[Ed Gamble]

Legs 11.

[Matthew Crosby]

You're supposed to play that bit then. Never mind. It's not doing it now. Matthew, last week we talked. Jesus Christ. Last week, Matthew, we talked about the fact that you had a new. You've got a new jumper.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, I bought a jumper for my wife.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. She didn't like it.

[Ed Gamble]

She didn't like it. She thought it was. Do you know what? She's. She's since told me that she has such a. And I didn't realize this, and it's a completely reasonable phobia to have. She's got such a phobia of car crashes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

That she doesn't want to Wear a jumper with a car crash on it. Which I think is totally fair enough.

[Matthew Crosby]

You know, I often think. I often think my wife's sensitive flower. And then I hear things about your wife.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I've got the more sensitive Charlie. Yeah, I think I really have.

[Matthew Crosby]

Which sounds like a movie. You can't watch a film where anything negative happens.

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[Matthew Crosby]

And can't wear a jumper with the car crash on it.

[Ed Gamble]

She doesn't even really have to see it.

[Matthew Crosby]

No, you're not.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, because if you've got. I've got an eagle on my jumper now. But I'm not constantly going, oh, look, there's an eagle.

[Matthew Crosby]

There's an eagle.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I'm being attacked by an eagle.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Well, also, the eagle's facing outwards.

[Ed Gamble]

Eagle's facing outwards. It's somebody else's problem.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. So that. I mean, I'd say the eagle jumper. I love the eagle jumper.

[Ed Gamble]

I love the eagle jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

But I want to see this.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I can.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay. All right.

[Matthew Crosby]

Does it have a fit that you wouldn't normally wear?

[Ed Gamble]

It does. It's got a sort of. I would say. Well, it claims to be unisex, but I definitely bought it from the women's section of this. Of this website.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, I'll show you this.

[Matthew Crosby]

Right, so the eagle jumper's coming off.

[Ed Gamble]

The eagle is coming off.

[Matthew Crosby]

Vin, have you got a slide whistle sound effect we could play in now? Just while Matthew said.

[Ed Gamble]

Surely, pop on the stripper. Pop on a bit of a. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

It'S too late now.

[Ed Gamble]

The eagles landed on the floor.

[Matthew Crosby]

Imagine going to a gentleman's club and. And they have to take their clothes off in silence whilst someone struggles to find the music.

[Ed Gamble]

It's very rare that someone's taking off a jumper in a strip club.

[Matthew Crosby]

Not be a DJ in a strip club.

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[Vin (Producer)]

So offended.

[Ed Gamble]

Surely, surely you've got that. That's just right there, isn't it? That's just a big red button in the strip club that you play in that. The swanny whistle.

[Matthew Crosby]

So here we go.

[Ed Gamble]

There's the jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

I love the design.

[Ed Gamble]

I do as well.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think it's a cool jumper.

[Ed Gamble]

It's not making you scared. I just want to check with you.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's not making me scared. I think. Well, I'd say looking at that car crash. No fatalities. No.

[Ed Gamble]

It looks. The red car and a blue car had a race from the old. The old Milky Way advert.

[Matthew Crosby]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Ed Gamble]

But it's very cartoony. It's not an actual looking car crash.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So yeah, I'm gonna pop it on.

[Matthew Crosby]

Pop it on. I think we need to see it on and see the fit. It's because it's quite a wide cut I'd say.

[Ed Gamble]

Wide cut.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks comfortable. It looks warm.

[Vin (Producer)]

It looks like a rug in a child's bedroom.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. More than a jumper.

[Ed Gamble]

Well this is what somebody messaged in last week to say they'd looked it up online and said that it was perfectly acceptable for. For either boys or girls. As long as they're five. Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But what do you think?

[Matthew Crosby]

I actually really like it on you.

[Ed Gamble]

I really like it.

[Matthew Crosby]

I really like it.

[Ed Gamble]

I think for 20, 26 this could be me.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Well I'll tell you what, should we. I'll take a photo, I'll pop it on my insta. Yeah, the listeners can tell.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah. I really like it.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you know what? If you like it, then I like it.

[Vin (Producer)]

How long is it? Is it a bit big for you or is it okay?

[Matthew Crosby]

No, I think just. Actually no, I think you're fine because you are dinky. I think sometimes oversized things would drown you a little.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, that's right. It looks like you've put on your parents clothes.

[Vin (Producer)]

That's okay.

[Matthew Crosby]

The arms fit nicely. They' the right length. Yeah, they're good. The shoulders aren't too big. It's a good neckline.

[Ed Gamble]

This is me.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think this is you from now.

[Ed Gamble]

On, Matthew, I tell you what I'm gonna do because.

[Matthew Crosby]

But your wife thinks you look like an idiot in it, right?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, she's like, yeah, but that's fine. I can wear it on a Sunday morning. My radio jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

Just leave it at Radio X every week.

[Ed Gamble]

Special jumper for radio. Yeah, but if I'm gonna wear it for the interview with Josh. Right. Not gonna mention it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And see if he mentions it. Well he will because he will mention it because he, he will think this is absolutely insane.

[Matthew Crosby]

He was GQ's second worst best man.

[Ed Gamble]

After Paul Hol.

[Matthew Crosby]

And then his wife had to step in and give him a glow up.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, that's true but I don't think his glow up will extend to a big fluffy jumpers.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's stupid.

[Ed Gamble]

He'll think it's stupid. Yeah, but there you go. If you like it and Josh thinks it's stupid.

[Matthew Crosby]

I tell you who else we've got on the show though. Chloe Pets.

[Ed Gamble]

Pets.

[Matthew Crosby]

And they are a fashion guru.

[Ed Gamble]

I'll wear it in front of pets. I won't say, I won't say a word about it. And let's see what they say.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Radio X Announcer]

Mask, you crobly. And radio Ed.

[Ed Gamble]

Radio.

[Radio X Announcer]

I don't know.

[Matthew Crosby]

The Red Hot Silly Peppers on Radio X, it's Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby with you until 11am and we are delighted to be joined on the line by our first scoop for Daddy, our first mega guest of today's episode, and.

[Ed Gamble]

A Chili Peppers super fam. Seen them live in concert, over 400 stars.

[Matthew Crosby]

A chili Peppers aficionado, it's the wonderful Josh Widdicombe. Hello, Josh.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Word up. How's it going?

[Matthew Crosby]

Pretty good.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You just caught me listening to Mother's Milk, one of their earlier albums.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, you're an og. You're an OG Pep head, aren't you?

[Josh Widdicombe]

I'm an OG Pep Head. I'm naked butt free sock over my.

[Ed Gamble]

Genitals at this point. Well, thanks for dressing up.

[Matthew Crosby]

Now, Josh, normally when we have a guest on VIN gives us a little sheet with details of everything that they want to talk about, the sort of work that we're going to be talking to them about about.

[Josh Widdicombe]

But he's finding it in this Christmas.

[Matthew Crosby]

He really is. Because all we've got written down here is welcome. So we've got to welcome you. And we've done that tip.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah, well done.

[Matthew Crosby]

And then. And then the next question is, Josh, what are you plugging? That's all he's given us today.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Blimey, Vin.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, it's.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Because last time you were. The rumors that you've. You've moved to absolute and are just.

[Matthew Crosby]

Filling out the day, so I don't know what that means. I've never heard of that.

[Vin (Producer)]

It's the same script that we used last time Josh was. So I figured it was good enough that time.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes. It wasn't, though, was it, Vin? And it's not good enough now. But, Josh, I will. I will ask you, what do you. What are you plugging?

[Josh Widdicombe]

Let's get straight on with it. I've got a new podcast that I'd like to plug because I feel like it's a growth area that needs.

[Matthew Crosby]

Needs me to dip my toe in.

[Josh Widdicombe]

It's called Josh Widdicombes Museum of Pop Culture.

[Ed Gamble]

What is a podcast? Just. Just for the listeners who don't know what that is, tell us what a pod last is because that's. That's quite a new thing.

[Josh Widdicombe]

It's this without the Red Hot Chili Pepper.

[Ed Gamble]

So much, much worse.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Much, much worse. Much, much worse.

[Matthew Crosby]

Now, is there such a thing as a podcast? That's only the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I Suppose an album.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

So podcast to explain what it is. It's an audio medium, or if the BBC strapped for money, it's a way to do prime time spin off shows on tv.

[Matthew Crosby]

Absolutely it is. And I'm happy to host many, many more.

[Ed Gamble]

So what's the topic of this. Of this podcast? Because, of course, you. You conquered.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You're involved. You're involved.

[Ed Gamble]

Did you call me Rob there?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, he did a bit. Did I?

[Ed Gamble]

I think you may have said Rob.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, you said Rob. I know, I know. You're currently recording something on Zoom. You assume that you're about to talk about parenting with Rob Beckett.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm happy to talk about parenting Now. You've con. You conquered the world of podcasting, obviously, with your parenting podcast.

[Matthew Crosby]

Conquered.

[Ed Gamble]

But you've done well with it.

[Matthew Crosby]

You've given it.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I think I conquered it. I think I've conquered it. I feel like. I feel like Alexander the Great.

[Matthew Crosby]

Who.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Interestingly, would be brought up in the. In the podcast that has conquered it. The rest is history. But.

[Ed Gamble]

So. But this. This is. This is a podcast that. I'm sorry, I'm here.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You know what.

[Ed Gamble]

What is that?

[Josh Widdicombe]

I'm just going to say it. Vin, you said plug away. I've done a really bad job.

[Matthew Crosby]

You've plugged the rest of history and another radio station so far.

[Josh Widdicombe]

And parenting podcast that I don't want to plug.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Wind down Josh Widdop's museum. I'm sorry. Mouths need feeding, but it's a kind of circular problem now.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's called music.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Josh really comes to the Museum of Popular Culture.

[Matthew Crosby]

Your hands are massive, by the way.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Josh is patching.

[Matthew Crosby]

Calm down.

[Ed Gamble]

She's patching in on a knife phone. And he's really dot. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

There's some sort of weird perspective trick you're doing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Either that or you look like you're in the audience at Gladiators, which. Which, of course, could be discussed. Gladiators, the original could be discussed on the Museum of Pop Culture.

[Josh Widdicombe]

It could.

[Matthew Crosby]

It could.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Or I thought you were about to say it. Which of course could be discussed with that televised podcast.

[Matthew Crosby]

Happy to do it.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Absolutely. Got it made. So, Josh Ridicam's Museum of Pop Culture, I should say. I don't want to digress again, but I was. I. Because I'm a mental. I was reading the reviews on itunes and the first one said, I listened. I listened to Josh's Plug on Talk Sport and it was so good. I listened to this straight away. I'm gonna get nothing of that today. No, No, I was so good on Hawksby and Jacobs.

[Ed Gamble]

Anyway, please stop talking about other radio shows. I can't stop it.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You're not just even mentioned that. I do a lot of work for Radio 2 these days.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay? Please.

[Matthew Crosby]

You're going to be banned from global shows. A laugh.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, no. Oh no. Oh no.

[Ed Gamble]

You've really upset the top brass.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, God. But he's pretty happy, isn't he?

[Chloe Petz]

Without it?

[Josh Widdicombe]

He seems to be in a good mental space all the time.

[Matthew Crosby]

This is another digression, Josh.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Sorry. Imagine the rest is history. Or uncanny, or real dictators or one of those long form storytelling podcasts. But it's about things that we're actually interested in. Yeah, I. E. Things that don't matter. Things that don't. Things that don't matter. You're telling me that the Red Hot Chili Peppers don't matter? Things that do matter. Pop culture is what you think about day after day. It is the most important. It's the lifeblood. It is actually history. It is actually what we care about. We live in a world that cares more about Taylor Swift than Keir Starmer. And here is to more of that, right?

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, but it's not about Taylor Swift. It's about. It's a royal knockout. So it's a little bit different.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Stop undermining the plug.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, sorry, sorry. I didn't realize it was still in the plug. No, I'm still in the plug.

[Josh Widdicombe]

That's all we've got. I so tlpr.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's old guys having a chin wag.

[Ed Gamble]

It is old guys having a chin.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I have with loads and loads of really important research head. So it's not just old guys having a chin bag. I've also given a lot of work to TV researchers that are unemployed because all their jobs being taken by podcasts pretending to be TV shows.

[Ed Gamble]

So guys, if you weren't. If you weren't sold on the idea of two old people talking, there's research as well.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So there we go.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Young people, do you want to hear a fact about Pete Waterman?

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, please. Of course I do. Well, I mean, I heard plenty of them in the episodes we recorded together, but. Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Do you want to pretend you're hearing it?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, go on.

[Josh Widdicombe]

He didn't learn to write and read until his mid-40s, when he was already at the height of stock, Aitken and Waterman. And the reason he didn't learn to write or read is when he grew up, he was in a class of 63 children.

[Ed Gamble]

What?

[Matthew Crosby]

And they didn't even have the register.

[Josh Widdicombe]

They didn't have lovely stuff for us. W's. That really is a really lovely. And they didn't have enough pens and paper, so they just learned to read and write by writing. Pretending to in the end.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Wow.

[Josh Widdicombe]

That's the kind of extra.

[Matthew Crosby]

You've done a terrible job of pretending. You're hearing that for the first time. You're staring off into space. Absolutely. You know what?

[Ed Gamble]

Do you know what my. What my brain was doing there? It was going, well, you said that on the, like, all my responses to it was like you said that on the podcast.

[Matthew Crosby]

So that's what I mean.

[Ed Gamble]

You said that on the podcast. Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Again, Crosby, you were good on it.

[Ed Gamble]

I was very good on that podcast.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You had a lovely joke about skywriting.

[Ed Gamble]

Skywriting. Exactly what I was thinking. I'll say about skywriting. Then my brain went, no, I think you did say that on the podcast.

[Matthew Crosby]

It doesn't matter. You're going through the motions. This is. You know, people go on chat shows, they're giving the same anecdotes as they've given before. Oh, God.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Interminably, no.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, is that. Yeah, well, that's. I'm never watching Norton again. Great.

[Josh Widdicombe]

How often do you watch Norton Crosby?

[Ed Gamble]

I've never missed episodes.

[Radio X Announcer]

The Old man and the Big Baby.

[Ed Gamble]

Radio X. Josh Whitakem, who is here promoting Josh Whitakem's Museum of Pop Culture, which is his brand new podcast, which features him and another one of his friends just waffling away.

[Matthew Crosby]

Occasionally you.

[Ed Gamble]

Occasionally. Occasionally me. Who else is on it? Our dear friend Tom Crane is on it. Susie Ruffle.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Susie Ruffle. Susie Ruffle. You, Tom Crane. They're in the bag. I'm. I'm. You know, it's four episodes, so I don't want to be stuck with anyone that I'm not that friendly with.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's only four episodes.

[Josh Widdicombe]

No, each story's four episodes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, I would. You're really squeezing out, Lemon.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah, Tell that.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Tell that to Dominic Sambrook and Tom Holland. Doing eight episodes in one go about some of those boring things from the past.

[Matthew Crosby]

Now they. The rest is history boys. Because obviously you say Tom Holland to me. I'm thinking Spider Man.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, yeah. You know, Tom Holland. The rest is history boys, Actually, for me, in my world, he's a much bigger deal than the Spider man, who I don't care about.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes, of course, of course. Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

But that is, I'm gonna say, not the men. The main world that people live in.

[Ed Gamble]

But if you would like to live in Josh's world. You get the podcast.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I think it's a nicer world when Tom Holland the historian is the first reference rather than Tom Holland the Spider Man. Then that. Then you're my kind of guy.

[Matthew Crosby]

That should be a Marvel alternate universe storyline where Spider man goes to the alternate universe and it turns out much more famous. Is a host of a history podcast.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I'm going to say, I think the historian's got a bigger Patreon than these spiders.

[Matthew Crosby]

Spiderman. I don't think he needs one.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if you've seen what the MCU are paying.

[Matthew Crosby]

His Patreon is Disney.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah, I'm gonna say it. That. That you know, it's. Yeah, it's all about the Patreon these days. Tom Holland, the Spider man needs to get involved. I would love an extra 20 minutes onto those films.

[Ed Gamble]

Tom.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's what you want to be doing?

[Ed Gamble]

I would love you to meet the other Tom Holland. I'll let you carry on chatting to Zendaya in a second. But first, have you thought about starting.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I don't know who that is. You know.

[Ed Gamble]

It doesn't. Doesn't host a history podcast. Clearly we've.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I'll be honest with you, I don't know if I'd recognize Tom Holland, the Spider Man.

[Ed Gamble]

Surely if he was in his outfit, he'd recognize his father.

[Josh Widdicombe]

What, the. The spider that bit him.

[Ed Gamble]

By the way. That's. That's not the law of it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. Spider doesn't become his dad when he bites him.

[Ed Gamble]

He doesn't adopt it.

[Josh Widdicombe]

In a way, he is, isn't he? He's created his genetic material. Yeah, it's a bit of a gray area.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, it's a gray area. You should be talking about this on the Museum of Popcorn.

[Ed Gamble]

This is true. He should be that spider. Should be.

[Josh Widdicombe]

We've got one on Spider Man. We've got one on the ill fated Spider man musical that had music from you too. That is considered the worst musical in the history of Broadway.

[Matthew Crosby]

A total disaster.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Turn off the D. A total disaster. Yeah, I know. We've pulled heavily from it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, just. You've just read the book and you're just talking about what happens in the book for a.

[Ed Gamble]

Right. No, you also read the Wikipedia page.

[Matthew Crosby]

Right?

[Ed Gamble]

Let's.

[Matthew Crosby]

Let's not.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Well, actually, you need to be careful with. With facts. We are careful with it.

[Matthew Crosby]

We.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I got a DM from Pete Waterman's daughter in law picking me up on a Fact already.

[Matthew Crosby]

Wow.

[Ed Gamble]

And she said she.

[Josh Widdicombe]

No, she was listening to it in the kitchen and Pete Waterman was in the kitchen as she was listening.

[Ed Gamble]

So Pete Waterman is hurt. Oh, no, that's. That's bad.

[Matthew Crosby]

So, yeah, Waterman's heard it. Luckily, he didn't learn how to listen at.

[Ed Gamble]

Speaking of that, by the way, obviously.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Since you've been on Golden Ears Eddie, if he's got one skill, it's being able to listen.

[Ed Gamble]

Since you come on the show, the switchboard is absolutely lit up with a number of messages all from the same person. But Andy has got in touch to say that they've never heard someone say write and read that way round before.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, you said he didn't learn how to write and read until he was in his first 40s. It's right, surely, isn't it?

[Josh Widdicombe]

Well, I suppose that's the egocentric way I approach the world and that I've considered what I'm putting out to be more important than what I'm consuming.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, that's your priority list, isn't it?

[Josh Widdicombe]

Says a lot about me.

[Ed Gamble]

That's just you being a narcissist, isn't it? Yeah, of course. You put your name in the. In the title of the podcast. Classic Narcissist Behavior.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Classic Narcissist Behavior.

[Ed Gamble]

Will you stick around and tell us a bit?

[Josh Widdicombe]

In fact, what's the name of this show?

[Ed Gamble]

What's the. It's called. This is the RadioAction Breakfast Show. The Sunday morning breakfast show on Radio X with Vin.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's called the. It's called the. Not Chris Moyles Today.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, it's called the. Where's Chris Moyles? Because that's most of the messages we get.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, I know where Chris Moles is.

[Ed Gamble]

Where is he?

[Josh Widdicombe]

He's on the same flight as Rob Beckett. He texted me this morning.

[Matthew Crosby]

Rob.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, and where are they flying to or from?

[Josh Widdicombe]

I don't want to say that.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, let's not.

[Vin (Producer)]

Well, they're flying to London. I think we can assume they're flying to London.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Well, if you consider Heathrow London, which I don't.

[Matthew Crosby]

Is the flight coming in from Riyadh? Is that why you don't want to say it?

[Ed Gamble]

Listen, a gig is a gig.

[Josh Widdicombe]

The Riyadh Breakfast show has been exceptional this week.

[Radio X Announcer]

Crunch and crumble.

[Ed Gamble]

Radio X.

[Radio X Announcer]

Is this a riddle or is this a nightmare?

[Matthew Crosby]

Josh, of course we've talked about Josh Widdicombe's Museum of Pop Culture. Your brand new podcast.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Enough.

[Matthew Crosby]

We've Talked About It Enough, occasionally features our favorite little Granddad. Matthew Crosby.

[Ed Gamble]

Hello.

[Matthew Crosby]

But we've got some big questions to ask. Ask you some regular questions that we ask people. Now, you've been on the show before.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, yes, please.

[Matthew Crosby]

So you've had some of the biggest questions, but we have some new big questions in radio. Matthew, do you want to take the first one?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Should we do the brand, brand new biggest question in radio? Let's do it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Sure. We're yet to test this.

[Ed Gamble]

This is the first time anyone's been asked this question. It's a question created by Stuart Laws. Why am I always standing in the thoroughfare? Josh Whitakem. Why am I always standing. Standing in the thoroughfare? Why are you always standing in thoroughfare?

[Josh Widdicombe]

Is that a metaphorical thing or a literal thing?

[Ed Gamble]

It's up to your own interpretation. Just you. You take. Take it and run with it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Here's how. Here's how I interpreted it, Josh.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

When I'm in. When I'm in the crowd for a gig or something or a festival.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

I. I am always stood in the bit where people need to get through.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

I don't know how to get out of the thoroughfare.

[Josh Widdicombe]

No. But is that. That's. That's the human condition that you can. You can only remember the bad things or the difficulties. You don't. So if you stand at a gig for. If you go to Glastonbury and you stand at seven gigs for seven hours.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

The. The three times that you happen to be in the thoroughfare are. The three times that you take home. The human condition is to remember the discomfort rather than remember the comfort.

[Matthew Crosby]

Comfort.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Think about the times you aren't standing in the thoroughfare, for instance. Now, that's true. You're not. Now you're not focusing on the fact you're not in a thoroughfare. You only think about thoroughfares when you're in the thoroughfare.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, but I feel mentally in the thoroughfare today. I would say.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Do you this.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, I always feel mentally in the thoroughfare, Josh. But this is lovely. I mean, this is clearly a very therapized man saying, yeah, this is about the human condition. And we've gone deep on this already.

[Ed Gamble]

It's fantastic.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I don't think you can ask the question why I'm always standing in a thoroughfare. And take that at surface value. Not on Radio X, of course.

[Matthew Crosby]

You know, it's radio.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Possibly on talk Sports, but not on Radio X.

[Matthew Crosby]

We're talking about being at live gigs. That's what it's the Most Radio X question possible when you're, when you're stood at the back of wet leg trying not to look old. Why are you always in the Sarah Fair? That's the ultimate Radio X corner question.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah, well, maybe there's also an element that, you know, certain people are drawn to the thoroughfare because the, the kind of people that, drawn to others that aren't comfortable just standing, but others that need to move.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Others that are, you know, I, I maybe people who mentally aren't calm, who aren't.

[Matthew Crosby]

People who need to be.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You need to be in the thoroughfare. Yeah, go with the thoroughfare as well. There's, you know, there's that lovely kind of thing about when you're in the river, you should swim with the current. Swimming against the current is so much more difficult. That's a lovely. Another metaphor for life that you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Depends where you want to end up though, isn't it? If it's a strong current, you might die.

[Ed Gamble]

So you're saying basically, if you're at a gig, if you're there at the wet leg gig and you see a bunch of teenagers who love wet leg, all walking hand in hand trying to get to the front of the gig, you should take the hand of the nearest teenager and join the thoroughfare. Is that what you're saying? You should grab their hand, go with the flow and then have a wonderful, a wonderful night with some 70.

[Matthew Crosby]

Go with the current of mine.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I don't know if, if Danny Wallace is looking for a follow up to yes man, but go with the thoroughfare, which Danny wants to follow thoroughfares for a year of his life and sees what happens. This could be your lean in. It's got 250 pages in it.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely. This could be your lean in. If you wanted to move into the world of sort of pop psychology, which I believe you should.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah. Jimmy Carr, the Museum of Pop Psychology.

[Ed Gamble]

Final question. What is something.

[Matthew Crosby]

Josh, we've only done one.

[Ed Gamble]

What's that?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, but we. You gave too much of an answer to that one.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I thought I did. Sorry. I realized as soon as I said.

[Ed Gamble]

It we forgot to say this fire round. We didn't.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I'm so sorry. There's a tension bed after this, Matthew. I'm less sorry.

[Ed Gamble]

How'd you feel about Rob?

[Josh Widdicombe]

I'm living in a house that he's paid for now.

[Ed Gamble]

Fair enough. Listen, what, what do you think is, what do you think is, is something that's embarrassing, Right. Even though it shouldn't be embarrassing. Okay. What is something that's not embarrassing, but feels embarrassing. Okay. Oh, now have you got an answer already? We're gonna give an example. The example we normally give is the. If you're having your photos taken in a photo booth and people can see your little legs dangling down under the.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Yeah, that's true.

[Ed Gamble]

Under the curtain. What's your. Embarrassing but not embarrassing?

[Josh Widdicombe]

Well, our friend, the comedian Nat Metcalf, once said something to me, and it really, really. And I think about it a lot, which is that it's really embarrassing buying pants, even though everyone owns pants. And all you're saying is, I wear pants, which is the bare mint. It's really embarrassing buying pants.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, it's the same with toilet paper, isn't it?

[Josh Widdicombe]

It's the same with toilet. It's exactly the same with toilet paper.

[Matthew Crosby]

Be embarrassed buying toilet paper because the alternative is not. Is not what? Wiping. Which is the worst.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Well, yeah, the alternative is either not wiping or terrible. Terrible kind of innards problems.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes. Yeah. Terrible inner problems, which we'll be playing.

[Ed Gamble]

To give it a technical term, is.

[Josh Widdicombe]

The word I was looking for.

[Ed Gamble]

Terrible. Final question. How are your innards?

[Josh Widdicombe]

Do you know what? Much better, since I followed the Zoe diet.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, really? Yes, of course, of course.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Another bit of needless promo.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, we have.

[Vin (Producer)]

But there's one other question we have to ask.

[Matthew Crosby]

What's that?

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, this last question's really rolling on.

[Vin (Producer)]

Josh, what do you think of Matthew's jumper?

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah. Do you like my jumper? Can you see it?

[Josh Widdicombe]

No, of course not.

[Ed Gamble]

Where.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Where.

[Ed Gamble]

Where do I have to go?

[Matthew Crosby]

Hang on. Do you mean you. Of course you can't say it or. Of course you don't?

[Josh Widdicombe]

No, I'm sorry. No, I can see. Of course I don't like it.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, fair enough. Right. Right. That's good.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You look like Charles Brandreth.

[Ed Gamble]

Exactly what I was hoping for. That is very much the look I was going for. And listen, you.

[Josh Widdicombe]

You know Matthew, Charles Brand. There's a great fact about Charles Brand in the Museum of Pop Culture. He tried to break the world longest Kiss record with Cheryl Baker on TV am. But they had to. But they canceled. They failed because they had to cut live to Brezhnev's funeral.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's. That's a good.

[Ed Gamble]

All right, well, Josh Widdicombe, the podcast.

[Josh Widdicombe]

I love you all.

[Ed Gamble]

Josh Whitaker's Museum of Popular Culture. Get it wherever you get your podcasts. The Global player, maybe. Who knows? It might be there, it might not.

[Josh Widdicombe]

It is on there.

[Ed Gamble]

It is on there. Hooray.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's why Josh is allowed to Come on the show.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, I see. That makes perfect.

[Matthew Crosby]

What do you mean? Never mind, never mind. Lovely to see you, Josh.

[Ed Gamble]

Great to see you.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, my word.

[Matthew Crosby]

Thanks for coming on the show. Radio.

[Radio X Announcer]

Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Matthew Crosby]

Ah, New year, new me. Maybe I should start listening to some different types of music. Oh, maybe this used to be the metal alarm call. Maybe it could be the jazz alarm call from now on. Well, I've not really thought this through until now, so unfortunately I've not picked anything different genres. I don't even know if you played this. I love this band. I'm getting back into them again now. I love the name. I think it's one of the best named bands ever. Fronted by Devin Townsend. He went on to do his solo projects and various other bands. But this is my favorite of his work. This is a song I can't name because it's got a swear word in it, but the band is Strapping Young lady. No.

[Ed Gamble]

I hate you. No, you can't be, you can't be having. No, I hate you at the start of a song.

[Matthew Crosby]

Why not?

[Ed Gamble]

What about welcome to My Christmas Song? That's how you start a song. Welcome. Welcome to my.

[Vin (Producer)]

The start of the song. To be fair to Strapping young lad into it, because start of the song is a rude word.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Oh, no.

[Vin (Producer)]

Oh, no, you rude word.

[Matthew Crosby]

He seems like a lovely man.

[Ed Gamble]

He seems like a strapping young man.

[Matthew Crosby]

Lovely Canadian man.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, that's, that's disgusting.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X, Matthew Crosby and Edward.

[Ed Gamble]

We are delighted to be joined by our final, Our second, our headline scoop for Daddy. It is, of course, Chloe. You've just remembered it, haven't you? It's Chloe Pets. Chloe Pets is here.

[Chloe Petz]

Thanks for having me. I do not like it when you say that.

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[Chloe Petz]

But I also kind of love it.

[Ed Gamble]

There we go. It's the sort of Stockholm syndrome. The more times you keep coming back and I keep saying scoops for Daddy, the more you get.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think you're just jealous that you're not the first scoop for Daddy today.

[Chloe Petz]

Who was the first scoop for Daddy?

[Matthew Crosby]

Josh Whitakem was the first scoop for Daddy.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, I, yeah, that's a better scoop for Daddy than me, I think.

[Ed Gamble]

The headline scoop. You're a close scoop.

[Matthew Crosby]

He was a zoom scoop, though.

[Chloe Petz]

Okay. Yeah, I've come in. I've come in. Yeah, I, I, I'm impressed by myself.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes. Big pat on the back.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, yummy.

[Ed Gamble]

Is that, is that what you say when you pat yourself on the back?

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah. Oh, yummy.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yummy.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, you are, you are yummy. Yeah, you're absolutely delicious.

[Chloe Petz]

Here's a question.

[Matthew Crosby]

What?

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, thank you very well. I don't think you're allowed to say.

[Ed Gamble]

That to younger comedians. Am I not allowed to say that? You're absolutely. I want to eat you all up. That's what I've been saying to all the young acts.

[Matthew Crosby]

You're a scrubby pot.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you go to Dan Tiernan or you are scrumptious?

[Chloe Petz]

Do you go to their specific dressing rooms which we clearly have for this show and go, oh, I want to gobble you all up.

[Ed Gamble]

I do. I say I want to lick you all over.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. Matthew takes a big spoon around with him.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, come to Uncle Spoonie. That's what I say. Come and sit on Uncle Spoonie's lap and let me rub this Spoonie.

[Matthew Crosby]

Not happy about DJ Spoony.

[Ed Gamble]

No way. I've had a cease and desist from him as well. I haven't even tried to lick him.

[Chloe Petz]

I would love to sit in your ladle.

[Ed Gamble]

You'd be very welcome to anytime you fancy.

[Chloe Petz]

Here's a question.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Chloe Petz]

When you pat yourself on the back, how do you do it?

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, very good. Are you saying, are you crossing across the chest?

[Matthew Crosby]

You're crossing, I'm crossing.

[Ed Gamble]

It's got to be cross across the chest because it's almost a little hug, isn't it? Are you just doing it same? I don't know, same shoulder, same arm.

[Matthew Crosby]

What about do it now? Naturally.

[Chloe Petz]

Now naturally I'm doing that. Yeah, you're crossing but I'm gonna, I'm wanting to innovate and just do that.

[Matthew Crosby]

You got. But that looks like you're doing a chimpanzee impression.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm just for. Because we are on the radio, I'm going to explain what's going, going on here. You're putting your hand behind your back almost. If you're being handcuffed by the police and then you are patting yourself on the. On the lower back.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, if I got handcuffed by the police I would pat myself on the back.

[Ed Gamble]

Can I just.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's either a self cuddle or a succulent Chinese meal. Those are the two styles of back pat.

[Ed Gamble]

But I think you've got to think about where would you pat somebody else on the back. Right. If you said well done, you pat on the back you might. You do it on the shoulder. If you said well done, you pat on the back and you pat them on the small of the back. Yeah, that's, that's very Uncle Spoonie.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, that's.

[Ed Gamble]

That's straight out of the Uncle Spoony playbook. I don't think you can do that. I think. I think the first third of the back is the. The top third of the back is the only bit you should be touching.

[Chloe Petz]

Could you perhaps draw a diagram for Instagram?

[Matthew Crosby]

I will do. Yes, of course.

[Ed Gamble]

I'll do that right now. Ed, ask a question. Okay.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, we should talk about your show, Chloe. Oh, must Your wonderful show, Big Naturals. Yes. It is called Big Naturals, which we all love saying it on the radio. And you are currently, you're in the midst of a run at the Soho theatre in London, second to the 17th of Jan finishes on the 17th and then you're on tour across the UK and Ireland until March.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, I love it when you're professional.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'm so profesh. Can you tell us a bit more about Big Naturals? The show and generally.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, it was so good because I had to do Celebrity Mastermind and Clive Murray had to ask me about my Big Naturals. It was really. It was really quite something special. Watched it back, all of that got cut off. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Of course, you can't have Clive Myri saying the phrase Big Naturals.

[Chloe Petz]

I might. I might try and get arrested and give myself a pat on the back. And Big Naturals related. And he has to say on the news. That's my aim for 2026.

[Matthew Crosby]

Get Clive Myri to say Big Naturals on the air.

[Chloe Petz]

On the news.

[Matthew Crosby]

On the news. Yeah, yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

Anyway, the show, look, it's kind of about growing up on lag culture.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

Fans of Radio X, it's all the music that you're going to be listening to is a lot that I. Do a routine about Kasabian, do a routine about football, do a routine about Charlie Dimmock's Big, Big Gnats.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, my God. So you found the loophole, have you? You're the one who's found the loophole.

[Chloe Petz]

The loophole is that technically it's not problematic when I do it. It's like some kind of like, feminist reclamation.

[Ed Gamble]

Sure.

[Chloe Petz]

Kind of, you know, talking about big naturals and bodies and stuff. But, like, it's more problematic than if a lot of male comedians.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, it's way more. You are the. The laddish. Most laddish comic I've seen in years.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah. One of the worst.

[Ed Gamble]

You're a 90s comedian, basically.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In. In sheep's clothing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, I forgot. You're dressed as a sheep on stage.

[Chloe Petz]

You love dresses as a Sheep.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, you're a woolly Frank Skinner.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, that's lovely.

[Ed Gamble]

There's the quote for the poster, by the way. I've. I've drawn. I've drawn the picture, by the way. Where can I. Where can I pat someone? On the back. And the top third there is okay. And the bottom two thirds, not okay.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think you didn't need the diagram there. I think you described it and we knew what you meant.

[Ed Gamble]

But Chloe asked, and you know what? She's our guest.

[Chloe Petz]

Some. Some people are visual learners.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Chloe Petz]

And look, if I hadn't had that written down, I would be patting everyone in the not okay area below, not.

[Matthew Crosby]

Okay below, not okay okay again.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah. It becomes okay.

[Ed Gamble]

The botbot.

[Matthew Crosby]

The botbot.

[Chloe Petz]

The bot part.

[Ed Gamble]

Botbot's fair game. Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Radio X Announcer]

This is the Radio X heyday.

[Matthew Crosby]

Nothing but thieves. Amsterdam, a wild place, Matthew.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a lawless place, Amsterdam, isn't it?

[Matthew Crosby]

Ed Gambler, Matthew Crosby here, of course, on Radio X. A couple of Amsterdam legends.

[Ed Gamble]

We have definitely been. We've been in Amsterdam, We've smoked a doob. It's legal there. Yes, it's legal there.

[Matthew Crosby]

Spark up a biffa and look at that lady through a window.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely.

[Chloe Petz]

This is so much different from doing radio on the BBC.

[Matthew Crosby]

That, of course, is the voice of Chloe Pets, our second scoop for Daddy. A wonderful guest doing their show Big Naturals at the Soho theater, currently until the 17th of Jan, and then across the UK and Ireland until March.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, yummy.

[Ed Gamble]

Chloepets.org you should actually, what you should register is oh, yummy.org.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, yummy.

[Matthew Crosby]

Because sometimes people, you know, people don't necessarily remember the name of comedians, but they do remember. They remember the cat phrases. So. Yeah, who's that comedian we really like? Margaret? You know, their catchphrase is Ooh, yummy. And then that's. That's when they're googling ooh, yummy and they get ooh, yummy dot com.

[Ed Gamble]

This is your. This is your resolution for 2026, right?

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Typing ooh, yummy in should just direct to you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Okay.

[Ed Gamble]

Someone types the phrase Ooh, yummy into Google. That just directs to Chloe.

[Matthew Crosby]

Vin, can we get Ooh, yummy? Just Google it quickly and let us know. Let us know some.

[Chloe Petz]

The thing is, a listener will buy this domain for me and then try and sell it back to me for hundreds of pounds. But just to let you know, I don't want it that much.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's worth it for hundreds.

[Chloe Petz]

20 quid. I'll give you.

[Vin (Producer)]

Well, ooh, yummy.com is available.

[Chloe Petz]

Someone buy it now.

[Matthew Crosby]

How many O's are you putting in?

[Vin (Producer)]

It's $4,000 at the moment.

[Matthew Crosby]

No, but how many O's? No, I mean in. Ooh, then not the price.

[Vin (Producer)]

Two O's.

[Matthew Crosby]

Two O's?

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, I think it's two O's.

[Matthew Crosby]

I think it's three O's in my brain.

[Vin (Producer)]

Okay, well, let's check that out. Hang on. But also, if you, if you Google ooh, yummy, it just comes up with a Justin Bieber single.

[Matthew Crosby]

Is that good one to beat? Well, that's what you can walk onto.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Your next show.

[Chloe Petz]

Am I allowed to sing it? Do we have the right.

[Matthew Crosby]

You have to. You can have a head mic.

[Chloe Petz]

Yummy, yummy, yum. Okay, can I actually tell you something after we've talked about U Yummy?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, of course. Is it about your tour that you like to promote?

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, but about a noble failure that I had.

[Ed Gamble]

Let's hear it.

[Chloe Petz]

Two nights ago. So I tried to change the opening of the show, and I got my girlfriend, who is like a. She makes music, to edit the song. You can't touch this. So that it doesn't say, you can't touch this. And I just walked on going, D D d d Big naturals and. Oh, no, no alarm.

[Ed Gamble]

No, no, no, no.

[Chloe Petz]

By the way, so, so funny. And then I was like, I was like, I'll do about three of them and then I'll throw to the audience and they'll do it.

[Matthew Crosby]

And I never assume the audience.

[Chloe Petz]

And I put it, I put the mic in a man's face thinking he was gonna go big naturals. And he just went, what? So, yeah, it was funny that you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Need to try things three times before you cut them, though.

[Chloe Petz]

No, I, I, I don't know.

[Ed Gamble]

I think that's, that's true with a new topper. Fine. But it's not true with coming out on stage and starting before anybody knows who you are, what you're about, what the show is, and just singing. I mean, it is. I would love it. I mean, if I had been there, I would have lost my mind. I would have loved it. Yeah, I only had two in.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, dear.

[Ed Gamble]

Anyway, uyummy.org is, of course, the website to go to for tickets to go and see Chloe. No, it's Chloe. Pets.org is the where you can get your tickets. Ooh, yummy is not the name of the show. Big Naturals, bizarrely, is the name of the show.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Ooh, yummy. Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Josh Widdicombe]

Vroom, vroom.

[Radio X Announcer]

And honk, honk.

[Ed Gamble]

Chloe Petz, you tried something brand new on stage the other night.

[Matthew Crosby]

Your show's called Big Naturals. And you came onto the stage and did this. Should we give it a quick.

[Chloe Petz]

Big Naturals. Big Naturals. Kind of said in that way as well. Like, I didn't even really put my back into it. I just. Big Naturals.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, you can't put your back into it with Big Naturals. Can you not?

[Chloe Petz]

No. Put your back out.

[Matthew Crosby]

Your back's ruined.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, Poor love. And that's what I'm raising awareness for in my show. Raising funds for women who need extra back support because they have such lovely big naturals.

[Ed Gamble]

Is that a medical term?

[Chloe Petz]

Big naturals. Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Big naturals.

[Chloe Petz]

It's fun.

[Ed Gamble]

You want to have a go, don't you? It is fun. I was thinking, oh, this could be like a runner. We play. But as soon as you leave the studio, this guys. It cannot. We cannot do it without.

[Chloe Petz]

What about if I give you permission from. On behalf of.

[Ed Gamble]

Of ladies?

[Chloe Petz]

Well, yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Or I could try this. Try. Try this. Do this instead. Third wave feminism. Oh, that's really it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

And then we'll go be the goodest guys on radio.

[Ed Gamble]

So you have written a bit of your tour now.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, that would be lovely for you to come out to that. Third Wave feminism and then get a man in the front row to say it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

And he'll say, what?

[Matthew Crosby]

What? We'll go Big Naturals.

[Chloe Petz]

I just thought it would be, like, a nice opportunity for, like, a man of a certain age. I just assume men of a certain age always want to talk about big naturals in public.

[Ed Gamble]

So I thought. In public.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah. So I just thought it would be a nice opportunity for, you know, them to be platform.

[Ed Gamble]

You're opening up conversation, aren't you? You know, and it did. What? You're a pioneer. In years to come, when everybody is opening their show with a bit of MC Hammer and the words Big Naturals, then it'll be like, yeah, and I remember who did this first.

[Matthew Crosby]

Chloe pets is downstairs.

[Chloe Petz]

And then they'll go, ooh, yummy.

[Ed Gamble]

You yummy girl.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, we do, we do. We do have some big questions for you, Chloe Petz. We thought that this one we've asked to a few people, but I think this will be a good one for you. Have you ever seen a footballer in a curry house?

[Chloe Petz]

No, but I have seen.

[Matthew Crosby]

Okay, maybe it wasn't a good question.

[Chloe Petz]

Well, that's quite specific. Who's seen a footballer in a Curry here.

[Matthew Crosby]

We can't remember where loads of people came from.

[Chloe Petz]

I've seen a footballer. So when I. I went to, like, uni with a lot of posh people and they like to go to Mahiki and. Are you familiar with Mahiki?

[Ed Gamble]

No, What's Mahiki?

[Chloe Petz]

It's like a club in Chelsea, Mayfair that is like very, very. A lot of celebs.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we know the sort.

[Chloe Petz]

Made in Chelsea.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, gotcha.

[Chloe Petz]

And I never wanted to go because there was like a certain dress code which, like, girls had to wear a dress, boys had to, like, wear shirt, basically, and then girls got in free and then boys had to pay 30 quid because basically they wanted to, like, fill the club with big naturals for the. The wealthy men that were sort of inhabiting the place.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

Oh, okay. So this one night, my friends convinced me. Me to go and I got there and I'd compromise. I was like, 19, I was wearing a dress. And then I walked in and the woman on the door was like, next time you need to be wearing heels because I was wearing little pumps. And I was like, I'm six foot one. My. My legs are my heels. No one needs me to be taller than this. And then we get in and all of my mates, like, split off and like, you know, one of them pulls someone from Main and Chelsea, blah, blah. And then I'm just absolutely buzzing because Didier Drogba was there with Kyle Walker. Yeah, it was sick. I just stared at him the whole night.

[Ed Gamble]

And was he eating anything? Was he eating sort of spicy nuts or anything? It could be a. Jason very, very.

[Matthew Crosby]

Focused on this question.

[Chloe Petz]

He hadn't. He hadn't got a curry delivery in, but he could.

[Ed Gamble]

No one's gonna complain.

[Matthew Crosby]

Have you ever got a delivery to the club?

[Chloe Petz]

That is a good question.

[Ed Gamble]

Have you ever got a delivery to the club? Get. Get in touch with. Not much left of the show, but [e-mail] next week we'll do. Have you ever got a deliveroo?

[Chloe Petz]

I'll be to the club.

[Ed Gamble]

Talking of the club, have you ever had a chopper chop from the bugs?

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, definitely had a chopper chop from the bugs. They feed it to me.

[Ed Gamble]

You go to a bug hotel and they.

[Chloe Petz]

Yeah, and then they. They scurry it across. They use their bug talent.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh.

[Matthew Crosby]

It surprised me because I don't think anyone said that they've ever taken one of those sort of cursed lollies from. From the men in toilets.

[Chloe Petz]

But it's different in the ladies.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, but it's still Chupa Chaps in a toilet. Toilet. Right.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

But I don't imagine there's a lady giving them out.

[Chloe Petz]

No one's put them in an inappropriate area. They're like.

[Ed Gamble]

They're packaged, but it's the air around it.

[Chloe Petz]

They're in a package.

[Matthew Crosby]

Near butt stuff.

[Chloe Petz]

But they're in a package. Like, they're not. It's not like she's, like, got them out.

[Ed Gamble]

Not airtight, though, is it?

[Matthew Crosby]

It's not airtight to use this as a platform for my other theory that. Why do we brush our teeth in the bathroom?

[Ed Gamble]

Yes. Kitchen. Do it in the kitchen.

[Matthew Crosby]

In the kitchen.

[Chloe Petz]

Gary Bridge on McLean has actually spoken about that on her podcast.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

Recently. I'm a big fan of all killer no filler.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

And she thinks. Yeah. Kitchen for mouth stuff.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

Toilet for butt stuff.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

I tweeted about it years ago.

[Chloe Petz]

Now you're in a big, big dispute with Kiri. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, no, I'm gonna lose.

[Ed Gamble]

Final question.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, yes. Would you. Would you like to be on our new game show called Pooh Bet? It's a bit like naked attraction, but you see everyone's top half. You don't see their bottom. Bottom half. And some people are pooing and some people aren't pooing. Yeah, I would love that.

[Ed Gamble]

You can either be. You can either be a poor or a watcher.

[Chloe Petz]

You know, you could be poo pets.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Chloe Petz]

Pooh. Pooh pets.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you want a host? Yeah, you can adore host.

[Matthew Crosby]

Do you want to be the main host or like the Richard Osman?

[Chloe Petz]

Well, I think you should be the main host, then I'll be the Richard Osman. Love it, like. But facts about these people, you need the facts. Don't worry, I've already got my own Sting. Hit it, Vin.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, no.

[Ed Gamble]

This. This is naturals. We're gonna. We're gonna play some. We're gonna play some Black Keys now. It's so sad to see you go, but what a pleasure having you on the show.

[Matthew Crosby]

What a delight.

[Ed Gamble]

Big natural, sis. The show, it's on tour across the UK. Chloe pets.org for tickets, gamble and Matthew Crosby on Radio X.

[Radio X Announcer]

Every wall's a fart wall in this studio.

[Ed Gamble]

Goodbye, everybody. You know what? I'm a bit. I've got to admit, it's been a wonderful show. I've had a lovely. A lovely time. It's a great start to the year. That's two phenomenal guests. Josh Widdicombe, Chloe Petz. They've both been brilliant. I've got A little bit of a sour taste in my mouth after Chloe's interview because she didn't want to mention my jumper. And as we were. As we were having our photos taken, I thought, well, maybe she's just not the moment, you know, maybe she's not. And she went, oh, I like your jumper, Ed. She mentioned your jump. She mentioned your jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's a good jumper.

[Ed Gamble]

Is it? Oh, hey, it's a gorgeous jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

Thank you.

[Ed Gamble]

No denying it's a gorgeous jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

But yours.

[Ed Gamble]

But mine's a statement.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yours is the hat.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a statement piece.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And stood right next to it. Chloe stood right next to it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Doesn't bat an eyelid.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'll message them. They will have seen it.

[Ed Gamble]

Get the verdict. We'll find out next week. Anyway, Danny Wallace is just around the corner. Imagine the size of his jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

Goodness.

[Ed Gamble]

Imagine the size of his jumper.

[Matthew Crosby]

Don't drop your jumper, dad. Oh, Danny, don't drop your jumper. If you're using the jumpers goal posts, you'll smother a city.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, absolutely. Be a sinkhole.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Right, have a wonderful week, everybody. We will see you next week at 8am on a Sunday. Bye bye, bye, bye.

[Radio X Announcer]

Radio X Ed Gamble and Matthew Crosby.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, there we are then. The old show done.

[Ed Gamble]

The old show done. The new show just around the corner because we're pre recording it this week. Yes, yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

What?

[Ed Gamble]

We've only spoken to Josh so far.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But what a lovely guest.

[Matthew Crosby]

What a lovely guest.

[Ed Gamble]

What a lovely boy he is. He's such a nice boy and he's so funny and actually I will. I'll take that. Giles. Brad Brandreth. I think that's. I love Jasper.

[Matthew Crosby]

At no point did I think you would consider that an insult.

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[Matthew Crosby]

And he did say, also Charles Brandruth wears great jumpers. Is it his company? Yeah, yeah, it's his company.

[Ed Gamble]

And because he, he. I think he is responsible for like the best selling jumper of all time. The. The jumper that Pete Davison wore on snl because when Pete Davidson was going out with Kim Kardashian, Pete Davidson liked those. Giles Brand with jumpers wore one of them.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Then Kim wore one of them and that became the best selling jumper of all time.

[Matthew Crosby]

So me one, actually.

[Ed Gamble]

Did they?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, I love them. My wife wears it. It's got a sausage dog on it.

[Ed Gamble]

Of course. Great. Yeah, yeah. He's so. I think he's done very well. You wouldn't imagine Giles Brandreth, you know, being sort of a fashionista, but in a way, in a Way he is.

[Matthew Crosby]

And now you are.

[Ed Gamble]

And now I am. Yeah, I know.

[Matthew Crosby]

This is not a brandreth joint, though. This is a lazy earth joint.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, that's right. Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah. And I've. I've got. I've got my lazy.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, you do as well.

[Matthew Crosby]

You've got Guinness collab. Zip up.

[Ed Gamble]

It looks very nice. You sort of zip up. You zip up fleece with the Guinness with Guinness written all.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes, I love it.

[Ed Gamble]

Can you order a Guinness wearing that or does it seem a bit. A bit like when Joey pretends he's got a Porsche?

[Matthew Crosby]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

Is it a Ferrari?

[Matthew Crosby]

I don't know. I just go into the pub and I point at my jacket.

[Ed Gamble]

One of these, please.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And they say, what a cool dude.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You say, no, no, no.

[Matthew Crosby]

The jacket, it is a bit like if I'm drinking a Guinness in this. It's like wearing a band's T shirt to see the actual band live. It's a bit dweeby.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a bit tweepy, isn't it?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Even if it's a. Even. Even it's a T shirt from like, you know, the tour the first time around, they doing the album.

[Matthew Crosby]

You still can't do it. I really got it in my head you can't because that. They know. Everyone knows you like that band because you're actually there. So it's your. An opportunity to show some of the other cool bands you like. You.

[Vin (Producer)]

What you should do is wear a adjacent band to that gig. That's the best. That's the best rule for that.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

Like I went to the Rapture the other month and everyone. There was an LCD sound system T shirt.

[Matthew Crosby]

Sure.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, of course.

[Matthew Crosby]

But I don't want to. I don't want to be wearing the same T shirt as everyone's wearing. I want to wear something a little bit more obscure.

[Ed Gamble]

That's what you want to do. So you want to go.

[Chloe Petz]

Right.

[Ed Gamble]

Everyone's first thought is lcd. You've got to go first.

[Vin (Producer)]

Further down, you're wearing a DFA T shirt.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, my God. I bet you've got. You've got a serious T shirt.

[Vin (Producer)]

Very serious thing. I wish I did.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, there we go. I'm sure you've got a birthday coming up this year.

[Matthew Crosby]

Must do.

[Ed Gamble]

You must do.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Surely you've got a birthday coming up this year. I'll get you a DFA T shirt for your birthday.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

There you go. Have you got any Beck Wrecks? I don't know if I've watched anything that isn't Traitors.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, obviously traitors. Traitors. Uncloaked. This series is phenomenal. So keep enjoying that. Yes. I've got some Beckrechs. I went see Old Mary.

[Ed Gamble]

You did?

[Matthew Crosby]

At the Trafalgar Theatre.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes. I think I'm gonna go for my birthday.

[Matthew Crosby]

Absolutely fantastic. Brilliant. You'll love it. Yeah, it's got, like brilliant jokes that feel, like razor sharp for now. Like, it's got a very Tina Fey vibe to the whole thing.

[Ed Gamble]

Sure. Got it.

[Matthew Crosby]

I would say. But also it's got a real old school Broadway feel that you will really enjoy as well.

[Radio X Announcer]

Fantastic.

[Matthew Crosby]

Very light front feel facing, silly jokes, huge. Like Mason Alexander park, who is the lead. They are just like physically so gifted comedically and yeah, it's brilliant.

[Ed Gamble]

Is there a sort of element of kind of panto to it?

[Matthew Crosby]

There's no sort of call and response.

[Ed Gamble]

Right, okay.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's not like that, but it's fun.

[Ed Gamble]

Old, slightly vaudevillian old jokes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Definitely.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Well, not old jokes. The setups don't fit. I don't know. But it was just a great show. You're going to really enjoy it.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm looking forward to it.

[Matthew Crosby]

I'm looking forward to it. And also, you know, this is a time when I tend to watch the most telly in this. This week in the year. Have you ever heard of a little show called Broadchurch?

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, I love Broadchurch.

[Matthew Crosby]

Never. I'd never seen it that.

[Ed Gamble]

Are you on the first series?

[Matthew Crosby]

I've watched all of it now.

[Ed Gamble]

You've watched all of Broadchurch?

[Matthew Crosby]

I started watching it before Christmas.

[Vin (Producer)]

Is that the David Tennant one?

[Matthew Crosby]

Yes, David Tennant, Olivia Colman. The cast is quirk. Yeah, Quirk.

[Ed Gamble]

Let's not forget quirk. Phenomenal in it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Quirk's in it. Of course. Your man from Wicked, Jonathan Bailey.

[Ed Gamble]

Bailey's in it.

[Matthew Crosby]

He's in the first two seasons.

[Ed Gamble]

He is, isn't he?

[Matthew Crosby]

Lenny Henry is in season three.

[Ed Gamble]

Lenny Henry.

[Matthew Crosby]

Charlie Higson is in season three.

[Ed Gamble]

I've not watched season three.

[Matthew Crosby]

Hayley Cropper from Coronation street, season three. It's great that the last series is grim, but I mean, it's all quite.

[Ed Gamble]

Grim, but it's not great.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's sort of the grimmest one. But yes, I thought. Thought that was great also. And we'll talk about this more on the show. Last night I went to a friend's birthday and watched a film called Freaked. Freaked, which you will love. And I don't know if you've ever seen it. It's so up your Street.

[Ed Gamble]

Is Alex Winter in it?

[Matthew Crosby]

It's Alex Winter.

[Ed Gamble]

Did he direct it?

[Matthew Crosby]

He co directed it, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And Keanu Reeves's Dog Boy. Dog Boy, yes, I do remember.

[Matthew Crosby]

It was great. And it's 1993. I think all of the. The. The like, special effects are all practical always. There's a lot of like, sort of like stop motion play doh animation. So it's very like original MTV look to it. So they.

[Ed Gamble]

They like just hired a little room and watched that. That's like, what a birthday.

[Matthew Crosby]

And got the other. Not Alex Winter, the other director sent a message and say, happy Birthday.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, my God. That's fantastic.

[Matthew Crosby]

It's brilliant.

[Ed Gamble]

That's really good.

[Matthew Crosby]

I thought it was so fun, that film.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Matthew Crosby]

Couple of the bits where you like, like. But.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, it was a different time.

[Matthew Crosby]

Sure. It was 1993.

[Ed Gamble]

It was a different time.

[Matthew Crosby]

So I think those are my backrecks. Old Mary Freaked and Broadchurch.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you know what that is? A broad church.

[Matthew Crosby]

There's a show called Task Master. No Task Master. No, it's just called Task. It's on now tv. It's an HBO show starring Mark Ruffalo. It's like a crime.

[Ed Gamble]

I love Mark Ruffalo.

[Matthew Crosby]

Very good.

[Ed Gamble]

I like him. The only culture I've consumed this week, and it is culture, was the Bromley Panto.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And I loved it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Front row seats.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, my.

[Matthew Crosby]

Who's taking up the lead?

[Vin (Producer)]

Churchill Theatre.

[Ed Gamble]

A Churchill Theatre? Yes.

[Matthew Crosby]

Did they get celebs in for Bromley?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Sue Pollard.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Vin (Producer)]

So it's amazed that we didn't spend the whole show on this, actually.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Well, I, you know, I can talk about it next week. We've got pre record next week. But. Yeah, in fact, I'll save it. I'll talk about it. I'll talk about it next week. It won't feel massively after the fact, I'm sure, but yeah, I really, really, really enjoyed it. And I'm cr. The kids loved it as well. The kids really, really loved it. But I'll tell you all about that next week. Vin, what about you?

[Vin (Producer)]

I saw a film called no Other Choice. It's by Park Chan Wook, who did old boy.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

Yeah. Great. I think it was a preview, so it must be out soon. It's been at the festivals. It's amazing.

[Matthew Crosby]

Oh, great. I can't wait.

[Josh Widdicombe]

The.

[Vin (Producer)]

The. The story is quite sort of, like. Silly. Yeah, silly. Like it's fun.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

But it's treated very seriously and the editing is incredible. Like some of the transitions in it are just like. They're so inventive.

[Matthew Crosby]

That's what you notice as a radio producer. Yeah, the editing.

[Ed Gamble]

We love the editing.

[Matthew Crosby]

The beds. I love the beds.

[Vin (Producer)]

But it's about how they tell the story. Like the edit is, like how much information they give you.

[Matthew Crosby]

Yeah.

[Vin (Producer)]

They do the same thing with dialogue.

[Matthew Crosby]

I know what an edit is, mate. No, but you need to explain to me what an edit is. I was just saying that you notice that. Cause you have to edit.

[Ed Gamble]

But it's very special. Do you know what I like to notice?

[Matthew Crosby]

Screen.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, that's the best bit. It's very nice, honestly. You remove the screen, there is no film genuinely different to how you would.

[Matthew Crosby]

You would.

[Vin (Producer)]

You know, you'd normally see a blockbuster edited. It's very, very linear.

[Ed Gamble]

This is very not. Yeah, I've watched a film. I've watched the films. It's freaked.

[Vin (Producer)]

This is excellent. No other choice. Go see it.

[Matthew Crosby]

Great. I will.

[Ed Gamble]

Brilliant. All right, well, have a wonderful week, everybody. Don't forget, It's Sunday at radiox.co.uk if you want to get in touch with any questions we may have asked during the podcast. All right, have a wonderful week. Bye. By D O X.