2015 was 6 years ago

Summary

Emergency Intercom Podcast Summary Episode: "2015 was 6 years ago" | Release Date: May 23, 2025 | Hosts: Enya Umanzor and Drew Phillips

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1. Introduction and Sibling Dynamics The episode opens with Drew introducing his twin sister, Madeline, highlighting their deep bond by humorously stating, "We literally shared a womb" (00:16). The siblings engage in playful banter, debunking funny myths about their shared childhood, such as Drew's exaggerated claim about eating a triplet in the womb, which Madeline quickly refutes (00:30-(00:43)(#)).

2. Breastfeeding Anecdotes and Family Humor The conversation shifts to breastfeeding, with Drew joking about alleviating the physical strain on women by whimsically suggesting he could "pick their boobs up off their body" to relieve back pain (01:27-(01:46)(#)). Kai, another family member, adds to the humor by sharing her experience as an overproducer of breast milk, revealing she has "500 ounces, but it's all expired now" (02:20-(03:02)(#)). The siblings laugh over the idea of turning excess breast milk into diamonds or rings, showcasing their lighthearted family interactions.

3. Parenting Luna: Challenges and Joys A significant portion of the episode focuses on parenting their child, Luna. Madeline expresses her admiration for Luna, describing her as "one of the smartest kids I've ever interacted with" (03:55). The hosts discuss Luna's behaviors, such as her fascination with characters like Josh from Blue's Clues, and her surprising actions like hitting Madeline (05:00-(05:48)(#)). Drew shares his deep emotional connection to Luna, stating, "You have no idea what that little girl means to me. I would literally take a bullet for her" (43:07), highlighting the profound love and protective instincts parents have for their child.

4. Childhood Pranks and Misadventures The siblings reminisce about their mischievous childhood, recounting various pranks and accidents. Kai narrates an incident where Drew dumped excessive salt and pepper into a friend's soda, resulting in Drew being banned from their favorite pizza place, CC's Pizza (24:00-(26:09)(#)). Madeline shares her own misadventures, including breaking a window during a tantrum and accidentally harming a sibling with a BB gun (28:07-(30:05)(#)). These stories emphasize the playful yet chaotic nature of their upbringing.

5. Navigating Personal Struggles and Mental Health Drew opens up about a pivotal moment in his teenage years when he faced severe emotional distress, sharing, "The real reason why I fake killed myself... there's a deeper meaning behind" (19:37-(20:01)(#)). While the full depth of his struggles isn't detailed in the transcript, the mention indicates a transition into more serious topics, suggesting the episode touches on mental health and personal growth.

6. Media Consumption and Nostalgic Reflections The hosts discuss their favorite media from childhood, including movies and TV shows that left lasting impressions. Kai mentions watching Black Mirror with Luna and reflects on how their media consumption has evolved (83:24-(85:03)(#)). Drew humorously recounts watching intense movies like Mortal Kombat at a very young age, leading to fears that persist into adulthood (55:36-(56:54)(#)). Madeline shares her experiences with family members who indulged in horror genres, contrasting it with her parents' stricter media guidelines (54:22-(55:24)(#)).

7. Family Relationships and Emotional Bonds Throughout the episode, the siblings express deep emotional bonds and mutual support. Drew reflects on a heartfelt conversation with his father, where his dad affirmed his unconditional love and support, saying, "Whoever you are, whatever you want to be... I love you and I will always love you" (71:06-(72:18)(#)). Madeline and Kai discuss their relationships with their parents, acknowledging both the strengths and challenges, and how these relationships have shaped their perspectives on parenting and adulthood.

8. Sibling Rivalry and Affection The episode delves into the complexities of sibling relationships, balancing rivalry with affection. Drew playfully accuses Kai of being dramatic, to which Madeline humorously supports the claim, saying, "I think you are" (62:22-(63:59)(#)). They share stories of childhood fights, playful teasing, and the enduring love that binds them, such as Madeline's wish to "fight like that again, but not seriously" (73:39-(74:05)(#)).

9. Reflections on Growth and Change As the episode progresses, the hosts reflect on their growth from childhood to adulthood. They discuss how their personalities have evolved, the responsibilities of parenting, and the humorous yet poignant moments that have defined their relationships. Drew laments, "I tend to [dominate the conversation], I tend to do that" (84:57-(85:18)(#)), showcasing self-awareness and the ongoing journey of personal development.

Notable Quotes:

• Drew on parenting aspirations: "I wish I could go behind them and pick their boobs up off their body and just let them walk around without boob weight" (01:27).
• Madeline on sibling intelligence: "Luna is one of the smartest kids I've ever interacted with" (03:59).
• Drew expressing love for Luna: "I would literally take a bullet for her" (43:07).
• Kai reflecting on family dynamics: "Our parents were awesome, but a little too awesome in the sense of letting our six year olds do whatever we wanted to do" (50:35).
• Drew on personal struggles: "The real reason why I fake killed myself... there's a deeper meaning behind" (19:37).

Conclusion The episode of Emergency Intercom offers a heartfelt and humorous exploration of family dynamics, childhood memories, and the joys and challenges of parenting. Through candid conversations and shared stories, Enya, Drew, Madeline, Kai, and Steven provide listeners with an engaging glimpse into their lives, emphasizing the enduring bonds and love that sustain them through life's ups and downs.

Transcript

[Drew]

Hey, surprise. We got Madeline again. For y' all that don't know, this is my twin sister. We go way back. We literally shared a womb. Oh.

[Madeline]

Me and this girl, we have stories to tell.

[Drew]

No, the TAS is me and Madeline. We ate our triplet in the womb. Have I ever told you that?

[Madeline]

I think you've said it at least 8 million times, and it's a lie.

[Drew]

Because we didn't do that.

[Madeline]

Wait, do you actually I've.

[Drew]

I or bleep that My brother ate his twin in the womb, and apparently they.

[Kai]

They theorize that he did.

[Madeline]

I was really terrified as a kid, cuz. Did you ever watch Kate Plus 8?

[Kai]

I actually didn't.

[Drew]

That belly was disgusting.

[Kai]

That, that.

[Madeline]

I, I, I thought, like, having, like, twins, triplets, like, quadruplets, all of those things. I thought that was, like, more common than not for some reason, I think just because there were, like, there was an era where there was, like, it's.

[Drew]

Like, engorged in red.

[Madeline]

Up. Ow. I mean, beautiful, but ow. Like, I guess I feel like I have to say that's beautiful or I'll get in trouble. Like, but it looks like it really hurts.

[Drew]

No, it does hurt. Like, you know what I wish I could do for every woman in my life? I really, I. What I wish I could do is I wish I could go behind them and pick their boobs up off their body and just let them walk around without boob weight just so they could feel what it feels like to be like, no back strain from their boobs.

[Steven]

Such a good idea.

[Drew]

I would love to do that in you.

[Kai]

It actually is pretty magical.

[Drew]

Has that, Has Stephen done that?

[Kai]

Yeah, whenever I was breastfeeding and they were like, extra.

[Madeline]

I see that. I'm like, that looks like it hurts again. As a kid, I was like, oh, so sweet. And then hearing adults talk about it, I was like, wait, What?

[Kai]

Like, wait, it hurts when you're, like, engorged? Yeah, but I didn't, like, actually, I didn't actually, like, breastfeed, but I pumped and, yeah, it's a very odd sensation.

[Drew]

You were a super milk producer, huh?

[Kai]

An overproducer is what they call it. But yeah.

[Madeline]

Do you have any breast milk left? Like, did you keep any for.

[Kai]

So I do. I have, like, 500 ounces, but it's all expired now, and I just will not dump it out because it, like, hurts my heart. It was so much work.

[Madeline]

Hold on to something.

[Kai]

It was so much work that I just, like, haven't got to it. I will eventually. Steven really wants Me to clear out our freezer.

[Madeline]

You should get it. You should get it evaporated. I'm not even kidding. Like, that's some. Like, you can't. You make it into diamond and get.

[Drew]

A cute little thing, make it into diamonds.

[Kai]

You can make, like, a breast milk ring, which I do still need to make that.

[Drew]

You can make a semen ring, too.

[Madeline]

That's disgusting.

[Drew]

You can.

[Madeline]

That's, like, disgusting. There's way too much of that around. Like, there's no. Like, Madeline's milk is her milk. Like, that's only.

[Drew]

Weren't you, like, giving milk away to people?

[Kai]

I did, yeah. At one point, because I had so much in my freezer.

[Drew]

Madeline's a giver.

[Madeline]

Yeah. Because I guess there are people who can't, like, produce enough breast milk because it really is just, like, you either have that genetic makeup that you make.

[Drew]

Enough or it really sucks when, like, my milkers. That's what I call the women that let me suck on their boobs for their milk as a 27 year old, sucks when they run out. And I have to get a new producer because the flavor is always different. Like, I can tell the difference between Coke and Dr. Pepper if they had a Coke or a Dr. Pepper that day. No. It is really crazy, Madeline, that you were making breast milk and your diet was chicken and Dr. Pepper and, like, you were creating a life.

[Kai]

Yeah. And Luna, and she's literally one of.

[Madeline]

The smartest kids I've ever interacted with.

[Drew]

I'm not kidding.

[Madeline]

Like, I.

[Drew]

We were crying in the Unironically. We were tearing up, talking about Luna and you and Steven in the car to pick up the toilet.

[Madeline]

To me, y' all are such a little trio. It's so sweet. Like, yeah.

[Drew]

Oh.

[Madeline]

But Luna fucks with me, I think, more than Drew at this point.

[Drew]

So I really. She does.

[Madeline]

It's kind of a wrap. It's a wrap for Drew Old.

[Kai]

Yeah. And Josh.

[Drew]

She likes Josh.

[Madeline]

No, I'm cooked. I'm cooked. Next to Josh. She's obsessed with Josh.

[Drew]

It's because she associates it with Blue's Clues, I think.

[Kai]

So. I think she hears the name and she's like, if you don't know the.

[Drew]

Presence of a celebrity.

[Kai]

Yeah. Luna loves Blue's Clues. And there's a new character. Like, obviously, you guys probably know.

[Drew]

Oh, Luna's Madeline's baby, mind you. Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Kai]

Y' all probably know Steve. Well, it goes Steve, Joe. And now there's Josh. Well, whenever he told Luna, like, oh, yeah, Josh will be here, hear Luna's face, like, lit up because she literally thought it was gonna be Blue's Clues. Josh. Since we just got back.

[Drew]

She met everyone.

[Kai]

Like Elsa, all of her favorite. So whenever. Yeah, she thought that.

[Drew]

Oh, is it falling?

[Madeline]

I don't know. I'm really scared.

[Drew]

Wait, just ignore it. Let's ignore it. If it falls, it falls, and we'll cry.

[Kai]

We should have had Steven.

[Drew]

I know. Steven's, like, fixing up our house right now. He's. He's literally so masculine.

[Madeline]

That's why I'm saying, like, being around y' all this week and has genuinely kind of greened me out in a way where I'm like, oh, my God, Y' all got it. Like, you got the miracle jeans. Like, literally the fact that you. No one has to. You're so used to worrying about, like, one of our friends. Partners being left alone, and all of us are like, what are they gonna do? Like, what are like, you can't kind of leave that, like, guy alone. Like, don't leave that guy alone. And you were asking, oh, what's Steven gonna do? Like, to fill his time? Bitch, he's a guy. He's a real man.

[Drew]

He's. Oh.

[Madeline]

And they say they want me to be nice to men. See what happens? It really is.

[Drew]

And you were given. For the first time in your life, you gave a compliment to a man.

[Madeline]

And they said, I only get flowers at their funeral. But look, I tried to give you your flowers, and look at that attack.

[Kai]

Oh, are we gonna leave it?

[Madeline]

Honestly? Yeah.

[Drew]

I literally.

[Kai]

Y' all already put it up.

[Drew]

I cannot deal with that.

[Madeline]

For context. Every time we walk in here, this is like, this every time.

[Kai]

Well, hopefully Stephen will fix before we leave, and y' all won't have to worry about it.

[Madeline]

I Lowkey feel bad because when he was first offering to fix stuff around the house, I was like, no, I can't think of anything. But then when I really got to.

[Drew]

Thinking, I was like, toilet handles.

[Madeline]

I like my toilet. My handles, my doorknobs. I don't like my doorknobs anymore. I don't like any handles on anything.

[Drew]

Hang the mirror and the foy.

[Madeline]

I'm like, oh, my God. Let's do, like, a new, like, chandelier.

[Drew]

No, we really. We really were in the store, and we were like, maybe Stephen can install the chandelier. And we were like, okay, we can't.

[Madeline]

We, like, pressure him into doing electrician work.

[Drew]

Yeah, okay. You were in Disney for four days. Like, talk about that. That was crazy. Madeline got flown out. Flew out By Disney.

[Kai]

Yeah. So we got invited by Disneyland. It was so fun. It was Luna's first time ever going to Disney, and it was everything we could have thought of, like, dreamed of. It was so fun. She loved Elsa, Ariel. She still talked about it.

[Drew]

Can we talk about the bunk ass Ariel for a second? Okay, so Natalie or Luna met two Ariels on two separate days. Yeah, on two separate days. And one of them was, like, fierce, like, Contessa, like, eight down. Like, was like, the girl really living in her.

[Madeline]

Ariel fan.

[Drew]

Yeah. And then the next one was, like, Haggerty mean. Had been doing the job for at least 20 years.

[Kai]

Like, it was not mean, but definitely was not as excited.

[Madeline]

The love of the game maybe has faded a little bit. The game has worn on her. It gets. Yeah, it gets there. Like, we all got there.

[Drew]

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, she. But she was still nice to Luna.

[Kai]

She was. It just was a little different vibe, but it was so confusing.

[Madeline]

Like, Luna had the first experience that we have as adults when you see someone you could, like, you thought you got along with, and then you carry in that energy. And when it's not received, you're like, okay, okay. Like, I wish I want so badly. Like, we have all this weird chat GPT shit. We need to figure out how to read the minds of toddlers who, like, speak as much as Luna, but can't, like, verbalize, get it all the way out. Because I'm like, oh, my God. I wonder how often she's like.

[Kai]

I don't know if you saw her, but I think it was yesterday and you were there, but she was, like, sitting there and, like, froze for a second because I could tell she was trying to figure out how to tell us. And she was going. And then she, like, couldn't think of it. And then she kind of, like, lost her train of thought and, like, started to freak me out. I was like, oh, poor girl. Like, she wants to tell us something so bad.

[Drew]

I'm scared of her now. I'm scared of Luna.

[Kai]

What?

[Drew]

I'm literally terrified of her. The way she's, like, staring into that fire last night. No, she was plotting, y' all. Like, it was creepy.

[Kai]

She was mesmerized by the fire.

[Drew]

No, she was plotting. She wasn't mesmerized. She was thinking about how she can kill all of us.

[Madeline]

Don't say that.

[Drew]

Don't say that. Don't say that.

[Madeline]

I feel like she would spit. No, I feel like she would only kill you.

[Drew]

I think so.

[Madeline]

Yeah. But maybe it's something.

[Drew]

No, we can't even talk about her negatively because it literally makes me cry, because I literally love that child so much. Like, it's my own. Like, I literally have said that a million times. But, like, literally, I. I want to protect her. I want to save her.

[Madeline]

I know. I love her so much. But also, I love the place I get to hold in people's lives where, like, I get to be cool, fun.

[Drew]

You're my wife.

[Madeline]

And I get none of the anxieties of being a parent, because I was, like, ranting to Madeline about it. I would be like, my kids would feel like they were in the Pentak Panoptical.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

Someone's gonna make fun of me crazy, because I can't say it, but it's like, that one prison tower that has, like. Like, it's like a watchtower. I would be the watchtower guard for my kid, and they would hate me.

[Drew]

I'd let my kids smoke weed starting at four.

[Madeline]

Yeah. When does Luna get to smoke?

[Kai]

You know, I. I don't think I thought about that yet.

[Drew]

Yeah, I think.

[Madeline]

I mean, you should start thinking, because she's probably gonna get on Amazon and get a cart by the time she's four.

[Drew]

The Fortnite cart.

[Madeline]

Do you ever get scared of, like, that? Because you did you see, like, the highlighter vapes and all that?

[Kai]

Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah.

[Madeline]

Like, well, then what? What?

[Kai]

Like, yeah, she's gonna get, like, more sneaky.

[Madeline]

They're gonna start having smart.

[Drew]

We're gonna be old heads.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

I mean, we kind of technically are to. To, like, anybody with an iPhone, because they're so used to see. They've seen everything already. So that's why we seem so old. Like, anything we watch. Holy.

[Drew]

I was learning about that when I.

[Madeline]

Was doing my, like, 2015 deep dive. Like, it's, like, how we felt about the 90s. Like, I remember when I first saw the re rocking the chokers, I was like. Like, I was like, oh, my God, I hate this 90s. It's so old.

[Drew]

Ew.

[Madeline]

But then Tumblr made it a vibe.

[Drew]

And I was like. And you're like, here.

[Madeline]

Yeah, I'll follow.

[Drew]

All I hear in school is Ebola. Yeet, bruh. What's nine plus ten? 21? Ebola. My andaconda don't Ebola Ebola about a week ago.

[Madeline]

Yee.

[Drew]

Yaga. Y' all remember Yaga?

[Kai]

Yes, they do, unfortunately, because you would pull my hair. Yeah.

[Madeline]

What other bad you would be? Evil. Like, from what Drew said, like, you were evil as.

[Drew]

No, I was really Dark sided with.

[Madeline]

You were the demon.

[Drew]

No, I was. I was. I was really bad. Like I Madeline not breathe for two minutes, but like I wasn't like choking her. But like I like karate chopped her throat.

[Kai]

You didn't mean to do it. You weren't being mean. You were being funny. Thought you were being funny.

[Drew]

Famously, like always. That's like. He thought he was being funny.

[Madeline]

Me, every time you act like he just on purpose whacked you.

[Kai]

Yeah, I was like leaning back. I don't know if I was like stretching or what, but he just came up and went like that. And I literally did not breathe.

[Madeline]

That is some shit.

[Drew]

I started.

[Kai]

Like, he thought I was joking at first and I was like, literally can't. Yeah.

[Drew]

Did we talk about when you passed out on the last episode? I don't remember if we talked about it. I might have, but we. I'll let you say it.

[Kai]

I might have. I don't remember if we did or not, but yeah, one time, I don't know if I was like 14 or 15 or what, but I was upstairs and I like came out of my bathroom and I was just like really light headed. Well, I passed out and I hit my head on like this.

[Drew]

On a bow flex.

[Kai]

Yeah, I hit my head. My head on something. I don't remember what it was.

[Drew]

It was the bow flex machine. Yeah, that workout machine. My dad swore to God he was going to start working.

[Kai]

Yeah, that was upstairs for years.

[Drew]

That and a tanning machine that was literally never used.

[Kai]

But we played on it.

[Drew]

Yeah. I was going to say we would play hide and seek and hide inside of it. But I remember when he got that we were not allowed to touch the Bowflex.

[Madeline]

Well, your head did.

[Kai]

Yeah. Yeah, it did. And I like fell or whatever. And Drew was walking out of his room right at the same time and he just kind of like looked over. And I remember I could like see him but not see him. And I couldn't talk. And I'd literally just watched him walk downstairs. And I'm like laying there like. Like whatever. Like kind of passed out, but like still like coherent a little bit.

[Drew]

And then all of a sudden, she was literally frozen.

[Kai]

No, I literally just watched your like silhouette go. And I like, couldn't.

[Drew]

I. I like saw you laying on the ground. Like, I literally saw.

[Madeline]

What did you think she was just playing?

[Kai]

Yeah, he thought I was messing around. When he goes downstairs and he was like, hey, Madeline never came downstairs. It's kind of weird. And so then he. I could hear you talking to dad and saying, like, hey, I think Madeline might have passed out or something. So then you also.

[Madeline]

Him not getting up to go look.

[Drew]

Yeah, well, I, like, heard a thump. I heard a thump and I. Yeah, yeah.

[Kai]

Well, then you and Dad, I think, came up there. Maybe. Mom, someone came up there. And then we went to the hospital and I was fine. Nothing was wrong. I just randomly passed down.

[Madeline]

I don't think I.

[Drew]

What were you doing before? Do you remember?

[Kai]

I don't know. I was in the bathroom.

[Drew]

You were in the bathroom?

[Kai]

Yeah. Maybe I stood up too quick. I have no idea, but I just.

[Drew]

Remember walking a big old shit in there.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All the blood was in your feet, right, Kai?

[Steven]

Yep, absolutely.

[Madeline]

Kai's on his phone as fuck, by the way. That's why he had such a low response, because he was like, he's not a part.

[Steven]

No, I was actually doing some research because I'm using a different interface that everybody gets a mic. And I was just making sure that everything was good. And it is. So I'm actually like, you know that meme of the guy, that's the soldier, like, protecting the child while he sleeps.

[Drew]

Oh, with the knives.

[Steven]

So I'm the soldier.

[Drew]

Yeah, that is true.

[Kai]

Kind of funny because you're on your tech.

[Steven]

Oh, well, that's actually. I can just cut that. That's fine.

[Drew]

Clock it, bro.

[Madeline]

I'm trying to think of. I don't think I ever fainted or anything as a kid, and I wasn't the clumsier kid, but my little sister would fucking smash her head open at every waking moment.

[Drew]

We had a. Like that her nickname to everyone was. Do you remember? I'm not going to say her name out loud, but she just got a dui, like, two weeks ago.

[Kai]

Are you going to put that.

[Drew]

What? No one knows.

[Madeline]

I can't say that. But what if they're watching?

[Drew]

I don't give a fuck. I just. Oh, that's something else. I also went through my phone and prank called every single, like, person from my hometown that I literally haven't spoken to in over a decade. And I just called all of them with my real raw number. Raw number. But I would, like. I called all of them and 90% didn't answer, but I was bored as fuck that day.

[Kai]

And.

[Drew]

And, like, a couple did, but I left all of them voicemails. And I was like, hey, like, I really need you. I need to talk to you. Like, we need to talk. Like, like, something's going on. Like, I need to talk to you. I, like, like, won't Bleep the names. All of those people. Like, I was McKenna Markov back, or those are. No one. No one called me back. But I was so. I don't give a fuck about me, actually. No. One of the people. The most popular kid in school. That kid.

[Madeline]

Oh, I'm so sure.

[Drew]

His. His number called me back. And he was like, hey, are you looking for. Yeah. He was like, hey, are you looking for so and so? And I was like, yes. And then I was like. He was like, your voicemail was jarring. Are you okay? And I was like, we all have. We have video of all of this, by the way. This guy was, like, so sweet.

[Kai]

He was literally really.

[Drew]

He was like, do you need someone to talk to you? Like, is everything okay? Like, and all this shit? And I was like, yeah, I'm okay. Thank you for, like, checking in on me. And I just, like, random guy. Yeah. But then I also called Rebecca Black and acted like she was my cousin and it was her wedding soon. And I was like, hey, what day's your wedding? And she was like, I don't have a wedding.

[Madeline]

She just wanted a reason to talk to Rebecca Black.

[Drew]

But no, at the end. At the end, I was like, wait, that's just so.

[Madeline]

I know he's brought up this phone call, like, four times. And literally, like, we got along. And like, he was like, we always get along. But, like, we were keying on the phone.

[Drew]

No, we really were. And she was in the airport, and I could hear, like, flight boarding right now.

[Madeline]

Like, kind of a vibe, though. I would, like, actually, no, I hate being in the airport and on the phone. I just don't, like, don't call me. I don't want to be on the phone.

[Drew]

Oh. But at the end of the Rebecca Black call, I was like, this is like a synchronicity. Like, this is kismet. Like, this was meant to happen. Like, we should hang out. And I genuinely meant that because I was like, I feel like we would remember when we.

[Madeline]

I mean, we do, because we ran into her one time at erewhon in, like, 20. Something like, a few years ago, and we all just sat down and had lunch for, like, two hours.

[Drew]

That's where we got our numbers. Because she was like, why do I have your number? And I was like, I think we.

[Madeline]

Were all on, like, literally the most joyful vibe ever. And we were all just, like, dead sober in the middle of a Tuesday. Like, yeah, we need to do this.

[Drew]

We're best friends. We're best friends now. What was I saying?

[Madeline]

I love that.

[Drew]

Okay, what was I saying before I got distracted by my prank calls?

[Kai]

Um.

[Madeline]

Like, why the fuck would we now.

[Drew]

Because y' all are supposed to be listening to me.

[Madeline]

You went up on a tangent.

[Drew]

Don't yell. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't fucking yell at me, y' all. You saw that, Kai. See, this is why I didn't hate women. They yell.

[Steven]

Okay, I disagree with that part.

[Drew]

Kai agrees with that part.

[Steven]

No, I do.

[Madeline]

I know he looked up from his text messages and he said, I agree with that part.

[Steven]

No, my instincts kicked in, and I. I defended women immediately.

[Madeline]

No, I don't remember what you were saying, bro. Like, I literally. I have no recollection.

[Drew]

I'm, like, literally, like, shaking right now.

[Madeline]

Because you're so nervous.

[Drew]

I'm so nervous. Madeline has a bunch of to talk about.

[Madeline]

Oh, yeah.

[Kai]

I do have some stories that I don't think we talked about last time. Like, over the last, like, year, I've just been like, oh, when I would bring something up to Stephen, like, oh, my gosh, this happened, I would be like. That might be a good thing to say on the podcast to get Drew's reaction.

[Drew]

I'm scared.

[Kai]

It's not bad. I mean, they're funny.

[Madeline]

Okay. Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, we were talking about this yesterday. The real reason why I fake killed myself.

[Kai]

Oh, yeah.

[Drew]

But I'll let you tell those first, and then we'll get to that one, because that one, there's. We. I think we're finally brave enough to tell y' all the real reason why I sat on the floor with my pills.

[Kai]

I really don't think we talked about.

[Madeline]

It, because I thought I was for attention. Like, it was just like, he want.

[Drew]

Like, no, famously, like, that is what it was. But there was a deeper meaning behind.

[Kai]

The reason why he went and did it. But I was too embarrassed, and I didn't want to tell anyone that.

[Drew]

That's.

[Kai]

That's probably what, like, why.

[Drew]

We'll have to remember, because we'll leave that little bit, and y' all have to listen to the end challenge.

[Madeline]

You're so dumb.

[Drew]

No, I'm a business.

[Madeline]

Oh, you're an entrepreneur.

[Drew]

Yeah. Cow manure.

[Madeline]

Okay, I want to know one of the stories, because I want to know if Drew was a badass kid.

[Drew]

Do you have, like, a.

[Madeline]

Like, duh.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Oh, well, no, these aren't, like, Drew being bad. These are, like, funny.

[Madeline]

Okay.

[Drew]

Okay. Thank God.

[Kai]

Okay, so the first one is, he was actually a really good brother. This was a good brother move. I really wanted to do the Talent show.

[Drew]

Oh, we didn't talk about this. Fuck.

[Kai]

And I didn't want to do the talent show alone. I was in, like, fourth grade. But I really wanted to do my dance. Well, my dance was to the song Conga.

[Drew]

Come on, Conga.

[Kai]

And then the. That song. So I really wanted a backup somewhat dancer. I wanted someone on stage with me. So we recruited Drew. I wish there was footage out there. There is.

[Drew]

There is.

[Kai]

There is somewhere. And I. I'll insert it right here.

[Steven]

I'm sure I can find it.

[Drew]

Yeah, find it. I've been getting stuck. I've been hands. I've been doing drugs. I've been doing this, I've been doing that. I've been riding quick. I've been riding flat. I've been really sick. I've been back.

[Kai]

I posted on Facebook asking if anybody from, like, our town had possibly recorded the talent show, because I know somebody had to. But I wanted footage of Drew back there. My mom had used our bar stools and turned them into Congos or. Congo. Yeah, Congos. And wait. Yeah. What is it called?

[Drew]

Bongos.

[Kai]

Bongos. And Drew's in the background while I'm dancing, going like. Like, fake entire two minutes of this.

[Madeline]

You know what's crazy is that's kind of now like. Like, like. Yeah, like a tick. He does. Like, he literally, like, literally, when he's trying to be silly, he'll be like.

[Drew]

You guys, I'm a good brother.

[Madeline]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Yeah. That was really nice.

[Drew]

A given a take. Because I also probably within the same month, chased you with a blade around.

[Kai]

The house or made me do something in exchange for you going up there.

[Drew]

Exactly. I was at every one of your dance rec.

[Kai]

Yeah. If you didn't have baseball.

[Drew]

I loved your dance recitals.

[Kai]

Did you want to do it really bad? Yeah, Like a Troy Bolton.

[Drew]

Yeah, I really wanted to.

[Madeline]

Did you actually.

[Drew]

No, no, no, no.

[Madeline]

I was gonna say, like, I have no rhythm in those bones. Like, there's no world where. That was your call.

[Drew]

I don't have rhythm in my bones.

[Madeline]

What, you have something in your bones?

[Drew]

Yeah, marrow.

[Madeline]

Okay. I'm like, next. I literally feel like when Luna's like, skip.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. Luna in the car yesterday, like, got an ad and was like, skip, Skip.

[Kai]

Well, no, it was basketball.

[Madeline]

And she was. Well, she was kind of tapped in for a second.

[Kai]

Yeah, she was watching. I was like, drew, you'd be proud. Luna's watching basketball right now because it was like an ad, and she was just sitting there watching it, and then all of a sudden, she goes Skip, I'm not kidding.

[Madeline]

I genuinely think she listens. And she knows that we would find that funny, because I'm like.

[Drew]

She knows.

[Madeline]

She takes such a while where I'm like, that. You're a little.

[Drew]

If. If she says, like, a bad word or something that she's not supposed to say, and you, like, laugh, she, like, latches on to it and, like, knows, and you just can't laugh around her.

[Madeline]

But, yeah, it feels like you can't get her to say. That's kind of how one of my little siblings was. He still doesn't curse, though. He, like, hates cursing. But as a kid, he would admit that there have been times where he's cursed. But you couldn't. You couldn't pay him to curse. Like, there's nothing you could give him to curse because it's just out of stubbornness, because he thinks it's. It's funny that adults want to hear him curse, and he's like, no, bro.

[Kai]

Okay, so another thing. Again, I don't know if you've talked about this. You all have been doing this for so long. I don't know what stories you have and haven't said, but I thought of the CC's pizza, how you got banned.

[Drew]

I haven't talked about this.

[Kai]

You haven't?

[Drew]

I haven't talked about this. Then this is bullshit. This is fucking bullshit. Cece's Pizza. You. I'm banned for life.

[Madeline]

Wait, actually. Oh. I was like. I don't feel like. See, CC's has it like that. Like, I don't think they can. Yeah.

[Kai]

In school, if you got AB honor roll, or more like a honor roll, AB honor, or whatever, you got to go on a field trip one day to cc's, and if you didn't, you had to stay back at the school.

[Drew]

These is, like a pizza shop for.

[Madeline]

The people that style, like.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And that white.

[Kai]

As a kid, it was good. The white sauce, the Alfred.

[Drew]

I need to get that. Is there one here?

[Madeline]

I think so. I don't know.

[Drew]

I'm getting.

[Madeline]

I know there's Cece's Pizza in Miami, but I haven't been in so long.

[Steven]

Don't do that.

[Madeline]

That was a delicacy me and my family couldn't. Couldn't afford.

[Kai]

Aw, man.

[Madeline]

Okay.

[Kai]

And so, Drew, we got to go, and he. He was, like, messing with one of his friends, and you put, like, pepper all in his drink or something.

[Drew]

Dumped an entire salt shaker and, like, 50% of a pepper shaker into his soda.

[Kai]

Into his soda when he got up and the kid came back and it was like his best friend. So he wasn't like bullying the kid. Like if it was bullying, I would understand. But this was like his best friend.

[Drew]

And it's also free refills challenge, so keep that in mind.

[Madeline]

Well, actually you wasted about 20% of salt or 20 cents worth of.

[Drew]

Exactly, exactly.

[Kai]

Yeah. So Drew did that and the kid drank it and he like freaked out. He didn't go tell the teacher. Yeah, he didn't tell.

[Madeline]

Yeah, because he just got a straight dose of salt and pepper to the back of his throat when he was expecting like Dr. Pepper or some.

[Drew]

I don't give a.

[Kai]

Well, the teacher like came over obviously because he saw the kid like freaking out. And Drew got banned and no longer could go on those because I think we would go every month. Yeah, like it was like a monthly thing.

[Drew]

It was.

[Kai]

It was every six weeks that we would get to go. And so Drew got banned and I.

[Drew]

Was a honor roll every time.

[Kai]

And then he had to day. I was literally just.

[Drew]

Oh, so much. Literally so much. Was it?

[Kai]

No.

[Drew]

Oh yeah.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I can't remember if I stayed at his grandparents house. He had like the craziest littlest pet shop collection.

[Madeline]

Oh my God. This girl I knew growing up had that too. And I would hella take from her.

[Drew]

Oh yeah. I wanted to steal from him so bad. Did I ever tell you that I stole from. Yeah, I literally stole his like exodia and like he. I helped him look for it. Like he was like, I literally.

[Madeline]

That's crazy work actually. No, I can't lie.

[Drew]

No, that's classic. That's classic. Oh yeah.

[Kai]

Maybe it's over here.

[Madeline]

I'm like, I could have sworn I saw it. Like I swear I saw it right here.

[Drew]

No. For the girls that know, the Exodia 5 card set is like really the creme de la creme.

[Madeline]

Hey, I. I would be shocked to like, what is that? That's the lowest pet shop.

[Drew]

No, that's a Yu Gi oh card. But the littlest pet shop, his sister had a crazy collection and we would go play with them because we were going to like a NASCAR race the day before or the day. The next day. And we had to wake up really early and we instead of playing like WWE or whatever like boys did, we played with little pet shops. I mean we were literally like 8 years old too. Like we were old as fuck.

[Madeline]

I mean. Yeah, I would just take from that girl because she was the girl who I would take from was like that.

[Drew]

Literally is the gay agenda My. No, no, no, no. Like for you, me forcing that kid to play with little special.

[Kai]

Because you wanted to.

[Drew]

I wanted to so bad.

[Kai]

I wouldn't.

[Madeline]

Were you trying to make it like a boy game? Like, I don't understand why he had.

[Drew]

I don't remember.

[Madeline]

Or you just didn't want to play alone?

[Drew]

I don't. Don't make me play alone.

[Madeline]

Yeah. I would play Lily's Pet Shop with this girl and she was really rich. And this was the girl who I. When going to her house, I was like. She actually was like, now looking back, I don't think she was rich, but for me, she was a millionaire. Like, what?

[Kai]

We had people like that.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Who I would go to and I was like, whoa, how the birth do you have this?

[Madeline]

Like, in what world? And I would take her and I didn't feel that bad because she would bully the out of me, especially when my teeth started falling out because I have like crooked teeth and I had really crooked teeth and I used to good teeth or I had braces, but like.

[Kai]

But still. Yeah, Yeah.

[Drew]

I think they look like my teeth.

[Madeline]

Are getting really slanted because I need to take my wisdom teeth out and I refuse.

[Kai]

You haven't taken them out?

[Drew]

Well, no, because if she gets them taken out, she has like a 50 chance of like losing all sensation in her face.

[Madeline]

Yeah, they fear mongered the out of me. Like, I went to get X rays and they were like, oh, my God. At first they were like, oh, my God. You're like one of those patients who your nerve endings or like your nerves are really wrapped around your wisdom teeth. And they were like, that's fine though. And then when I got the full scan, they were like, oh, that is really close. And then I went to two dentists and both of them were like, it can be done. And like, this is more rare than not, but, like, there is a chance. And we have to tell you that because you will lose, like, feeling because of like, how much we're gonna have to numb you and with how much we're gonna have to use. It might last a week, but we have had patients who like, they never get certain feeling back because probably wouldn't.

[Kai]

Be worth it because, like, people don't get their. I'd rather that all the time.

[Drew]

I feel like wisdom teeth are like a scam in the dentistry world. It's like, yeah, you have to.

[Madeline]

I mean, they hurt though.

[Drew]

But it was fun because I got like perks for like a week and I was like, up. I was like high As I. I.

[Madeline]

Think I'm gonna get my wisdom teeth out tonight.

[Drew]

Let's go. But you have to give me half of the perks.

[Madeline]

You're gonna have to buy them off of me. Don't play.

[Drew]

No. Speaking of nerve endings, one time I was like plucking my nipple hairs when I was really young and there was a clear hair sticking out and I was like, oh, let me grab out. And it was like a seven inch.

[Madeline]

Ah, dude, that's actually grow.

[Drew]

It was a nerve and it hurt so bad my nipple fell off also.

[Madeline]

Okay. I think I might just make this a reoccurring thing because there are things I realized that were just things I got really scared of because of my OCD as a kid. And I used to think everybody got scared of it as much as I did when I would hear the news. But my brother's close friend, when I was in like fourth or like third grade, they went on a trip and he came back and he had a tapeworm. And it was like a huge point of discussion. And I was so petrified because I was. I was like, we were, we were in his presence. We've always been in his presence. He gave us the tapeworm. Like in my head there was no way. And like, when I was using their bathroom, I was so scared I would like hold my pee in there.

[Drew]

I think that might be a thing though, is like, don't use the bathroom after someone.

[Madeline]

I think you're not supposed to.

[Drew]

But like a tapeworm, but I don't.

[Madeline]

Know, around me gave a. Everybody was like being cautious around him, but I think think he had already gotten rid of it. Like, I don't think my parents would have like, let us all mingle if he actively had it.

[Drew]

Wait, why are tapeworms not a thing anymore? Like, I feel like it's.

[Madeline]

I don't know. But as I was really. I would look up every time I got to a computer, in like computer class or something, I would look up a tapeworm and see what they look like. And I was really convinced and I, like, I was so convinced.

[Kai]

I had a tape like a whole time.

[Madeline]

Like, sometimes I would eat and still be hungry. And I'm like, it's because of my tapeworm. It's literally my tapeworm. I can't keep eating because, like, like I'm feeding the tapeworm and it's going to get huge.

[Steven]

You can use the bathroom. You're just not supposed to play with someone's poop that has a tapeworm. So just don't do that and you'll be good.

[Drew]

Impossible for me, though. Like, that's literally the only reason why I go to the bathroom.

[Madeline]

That's really gross.

[Drew]

So annoying.

[Madeline]

You can't poop. I know it's not something you do.

[Drew]

Actually, I've stopped bitching about it, though.

[Madeline]

Yeah. Have is your. Like, are you on a regular schedule or. We both kind of fell off. We don't talk to each other about like our.

[Drew]

Our bowel movements. It's like not a thing anymore. Madeline.

[Madeline]

I guess because we don't share a bathroom for the first time in six years.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

I feel like we probably shared it is because we would be like, oh, don't like, chill and go in.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

You, me and Josh shared a bathroom for like six years.

[Kai]

That's crazy.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

It was lit, it was sweet.

[Drew]

Oh, and we really never ran into, like, people trying to get in when we were in there.

[Madeline]

Yeah, we kind of had like all. We. We synced our cycle.

[Drew]

But also we had two bathrooms, but we didn't use one of them because the guy that broke into the house Dr. Shaved his pubes in the shower. And from that moment on, also was.

[Kai]

A storage unit, I was gonna say.

[Madeline]

But also our. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Not too much on me and also not too much on the landlord because I'm tight with her and I like, seriously, like, do love her. Wait, no one said she is crazy. No, I'm about to go in on her. She's crazy as forever. Even saying that's a two bed. First of all, she said it was a two bed, three or a three bed. Two bath, bath.

[Drew]

Two bed, one bath.

[Madeline]

That's a two bed. One and a half.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

One in a toilet.

[Drew]

In one of the bedrooms is a.

[Madeline]

Living room and like it that I am. I am too crazy of a person. I guess we left a lot of clothes by me. Left a lot of clothes by the water heater. But to me, I hated showering in there because remember, I tried to make that bathroom for a long time, but every time I showered in there, I was convinced that the humidity was going to make the water heater explode because they were in the same room, which is probably not a thing, but like, that's. I don't know, it just felt like that. It felt like that was going to happen. Also, the window in there didn't shut, so every. Everything you did in there, the window would rattle. And like every move you made felt.

[Drew]

Like somebody was like coming around mile per hour. Gust of wind would like Literally.

[Madeline]

Like, also, the door didn't lock, so you had to pray. Nobody wanted to go downstairs. Like, at any point, you were in that bathroom. Because to get through that door, it's.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

I miss that apartment. Honestly, I can't believe Luna's been in there.

[Kai]

She was. Yeah. Oh, we need to get an updated photo.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Before we leave.

[Madeline]

In the chair.

[Drew]

Yeah. It's degrading and she's growing.

[Madeline]

Oh, she's taking all this.

[Drew]

I wanted to ask. What? What is something that I do that pisses you off to this day?

[Kai]

Oh, you should have asked me this a long time ago so I could think about it. It.

[Drew]

Think on it. We'll get back to it. I know what you do that pisses me off to this day.

[Madeline]

You've been waiting for this.

[Drew]

I have a list. Yeah, I have a list. You bite.

[Kai]

Tell me. You.

[Drew]

You bite. She still bites. She bites.

[Kai]

You bite him. Yeah, I do.

[Madeline]

I mean, it's your motherly instinct. Yeah, it's coming out every time Drew gets close to Luna. Madeline.

[Drew]

No, it's. It's like. I'm not joking. She literally bites me.

[Madeline]

I mean, Josiah bites.

[Drew]

Josiah bites. I'm. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, guys. Meline does not bite me. Does not buy it. I'm not going to.

[Madeline]

I stand by your rights and your wrongs. Cuz I'm not kidding. Like, that wouldn't change the way I look at you if I found out you actually. Cuz, like, honestly, I could see that.

[Drew]

Like, I'm teaching Luna how to bite right now. I think. I think it'd be good for her to bite other kids in school.

[Kai]

Yeah. Yeah, please don't.

[Madeline]

I was literally, like, trying to think about that always.

[Drew]

There's always a biter in this.

[Madeline]

Luna would never bite.

[Drew]

No, she's not the biter, but I remember the biter in my class.

[Kai]

She did hit me for the first time on this trip.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. Luna hit Madeline.

[Kai]

Sorry, I'm gonna out Luna. But this was her first time.

[Drew]

Wait, how can you know? She's only two.

[Madeline]

Also, you shouldn't out her. That's, like, kind of up.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Problematic.

[Kai]

Yeah, she's actually never, like, hit out of anger. Like, we've gotten very lucky thus far. And, like, also, she's really doesn't throw your typical tantrums. She's maybe done, like, one where she, like, tries to lay on the ground and won't let us pick her up, but luckily, she hasn't learned the, like, flailing the arms and legs and stuff like that. Yeah, please don't. But the other day, if we were trying to get her out of the bathroom, out of like Drew's bathroom, because she was like messing with stuff in there and she was angry with us and she like looked at Steven, gave him like an angry face, and then literally came over across the bathroom to me and just went boom. And hit me on the leg. And me and Stephen looked at each other and we were like, we've never had to deal with that.

[Drew]

Cried, laughing.

[Madeline]

I know I would have up so bad because I would have been like, what?

[Kai]

Like what? We never have dealt with that. So we like looked at each other and like panicked.

[Drew]

We probably learning it from somewhere. Meline and Steven, it's you. Yeah, it probably is me.

[Kai]

It's crazy that it's. While we're here.

[Drew]

Oh yeah, me?

[Madeline]

Yeah, well, yeah, duh.

[Kai]

But she, me and Steven, we were like, we just kind of like paused for a second and I was like that ow. I was like fake cried. I was like, ow, you made mommy sad. And she looked at me with pure terror in her eyes and literally started bawling like balling like tears out of her face. And we're like, it's okay, it's okay. Just say I'm sorry. And so she was like, I sorry, Mommy. And then I was like, do you want to put a band aid on it? And so Luna, we play like, we put fake band aids on and she put a fake band aid on where she hit me. And then she was fine. But she remembered it hours later. Yeah, she heard us talking about it and she like, she goes, I make mommy sad. I was like, you did? And like, also, I've always heard that, like, don't use that as like a tactic because kids don't care about your feelings at this age. They don't know what a feeling is. But. But Luna has empathy. Like, she's not a. In that moment, she literally felt so bad for me. And I like, made me sad for her though. Cuz I was like, I just made her that.

[Drew]

No, it would have made me cry.

[Kai]

But hopefully she doesn't hit us again.

[Madeline]

Like, don't throw a tantrum in front of her. Literally. I did yesterday when I was like standing in front of the. And I like threw a tantrum and threw myself on the floor. And then I think I scared her.

[Kai]

I didn't.

[Madeline]

I felt so bad because. Because like I heard her talking and then I heard her go silent. She looked over, she's like, enya.

[Drew]

Yeah, she like just herself, Madeline. Just herself. I caught it.

[Madeline]

She, like, ran over and then I just started, like, laughing and, like, smiling.

[Kai]

At her on the floor and was.

[Madeline]

Getting silly and I was like, I forget. Kids are like. She met that point where she's cognitive enough to just see something someone's doing, and I'm like, like, yeah.

[Kai]

She mimics everything, dude. It's crazy.

[Drew]

It's so scary. It's actually not that crazy. Yeah, like, I mim. I mimic too. Like, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Madeline]

I mean, you're comparing yourself to like.

[Drew]

A. I mean, you're comparing yourself to like a two. Oh, my gosh.

[Kai]

Speaking of the little girl.

[Madeline]

Hey, girl. Oh, my God. God, you are the cutest girl on the planet.

[Kai]

She just.

[Madeline]

Hi.

[Kai]

From a nap. A.

[Madeline]

Take a break from hi, girl. No, dude, you need to, like, actually finish it.

[Drew]

There's like, say hi.

[Madeline]

Honestly, can you take that one back out and then just.

[Kai]

You actually are so sweaty.

[Madeline]

I know.

[Drew]

There's no air condition up there.

[Madeline]

Oh, no. You can turn it on if you go into my.

[Drew]

I was joking. We're. We're putting.

[Madeline]

See, I'm not kidding, dumbass. Men. Like a man. I have had plenty of men. Be like, there isn't any. I'm like, did you look for a.

[Kai]

No.

[Drew]

She's so scared of Kai. Yeah, I. I could fix that too.

[Kai]

Are you waking up?

[Drew]

Can you say hi? She goes, I slept good.

[Kai]

I slept good.

[Drew]

Can you say hi? Emergency intercom.

[Madeline]

Yeah, say emergency intercom.

[Drew]

No, no, honestly. Good.

[Madeline]

Do you stink? Yeah. Poop. Oh, you poop. What?

[Kai]

No, you didn't.

[Madeline]

I pee pee.

[Kai]

No.

[Madeline]

You're so cute.

[Drew]

That's literally Kai to me.

[Madeline]

I pooped.

[Drew]

I pee pee.

[Kai]

Look at what Enya found. Who is that? Dora? Is it Dora? It is a little Dora. She's, like, adorable.

[Madeline]

She's like, yeah. What else is over there, though? Like, what? She's going to rob the store. Luna, who do you like more right now, me or Drew? You don't have to answer. I know.

[Steven]

Media Train.

[Kai]

Yeah, it's a good.

[Drew]

Who do you like more, Luna? Mommy or Daddy?

[Kai]

Yeah, who do you like more, Mommy or Daddy? No, I don't think she knows you.

[Madeline]

Love your mom and dad.

[Kai]

Just saying a rant.

[Drew]

Steven's crying.

[Madeline]

You were literally the cutest girl ever. And you're so funny and smart. I literally love her.

[Kai]

Can you say hi, Kai?

[Steven]

Oh, my God, I'm getting Cool guy.

[Kai]

You're the new Josiah.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. We haven't talked about yet. Josiah. Like, we were on FaceTime with Luna 1 time and like, Josiah just Made his typical.

[Kai]

Like, she was, like, 12 months old.

[Drew]

Yeah. Like, her. His typical, like, scary Josiah face, like, making just scary faces. And Luna, like, internalized that in that moment. She wasn't really scared in that moment, but, like.

[Madeline]

But she did go silent. Yeah, she went, like, deadpan.

[Drew]

Three or four months later, I'm, like, FaceTiming Josiah again with Luna in. Luna freaks out when she sees Josiah, like, literally, like, out of the cage.

[Steven]

That's most people's reaction.

[Drew]

Yeah. Yeah. To be fair. But she was, like, Josiah was her first fear, like, for real. Yeah.

[Madeline]

I mean, when she saw him, she didn't really. She wasn't bothered, though. But I guess he doesn't look as scary. I really want him to do the face, but I kind of feel bad, like, because I don't know if she'll forget at this point. Does that make sense? Like, it feels like if she saw that in person, every time she saw him, she would be scared. Bye, Luna.

[Drew]

Bye, Luna.

[Kai]

Bye, baby.

[Drew]

I love you. I love you. Oh, wow. Actually, I take that back.

[Madeline]

I love her.

[Steven]

Stephen, my. My bathroom's also kind of messed up at my house, so if you could.

[Drew]

I mean, if I'm already here, I might as well.

[Steven]

Yeah, it's like, a hour drive.

[Madeline]

No, don't do that. You don't do this.

[Steven]

Okay, well, all right. Well, you can just think about it.

[Madeline]

Well, because that's for us. It's different. Kai doesn't get that, bro.

[Steven]

You should at least turn the AC on for him. That's all I'm saying. No, that's all I'm saying.

[Drew]

You should at least. I'm not gonna cuss, okay? Because Luna's in the room. Okay, But I'll say it once she leaves.

[Steven]

All right? I'm not afraid.

[Kai]

Is it a little Dora my Looney? Bye, baby.

[Drew]

Thank you, Steve.

[Kai]

Bye. She really liked watching Paw Patrol earlier.

[Drew]

You have no idea what that little girl means to me. I would literally take a bullet for her. And I actually am literally hurt that I'm not her godfather.

[Kai]

You won't have one yet, so put me down. Okay.

[Madeline]

I'll be the godmom.

[Kai]

I don't know if you want to take that responsibility on.

[Drew]

I'm ready. Madeline, this is something I thought about, and I have an answer. What is? Like, some we did as a family that, like, we thought was normal, but turned out to be, like, really weird. Like, we talked about the poop knife on the last episode where, like, when. For those of you who don't know, we were taught from a very Young age that when we're taking craps that that by every toilet in the house we would have like a butter knife and we would cut the crap off instead of pinch it off. So we would just like cut it and it would fall into the toilet and then we would obviously wash the knife because it's like sanitary to do that. But when I went to college and I found out that people didn't use poop knives. Like I had a poop knife in the dormitory that I would carry in my like little case to the bathroom. Yeah. And oh my God, it was mortifying. People are like why do you keep bringing a knife in there? And like I'm was like yeah. Where are yalls poop knives? Actually now that I think about it.

[Steven]

I use poop scissors.

[Drew]

Yeah. Kai clips.

[Steven]

It might be a. Yeah.

[Drew]

I don't use a poop knife anymore, guys. Don't worry. But I did until I was like 18.

[Madeline]

No, you did until you were like 22.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

It was hard to like it was.

[Drew]

Hard to retrain my sphincter.

[Steven]

Do you let the poop just fall into the water or do you catch it first?

[Drew]

I catch it with my hand.

[Steven]

Right? Yeah, that's the correct way.

[Drew]

I hate the splash back.

[Kai]

Well, to answer your question, I again you should have asked me this a while ago so I can think about it.

[Drew]

This is an interview, Meline. You're supposed to answer on the spot.

[Kai]

Well, these are like.

[Madeline]

It's just jarring that like Luna's more media trained than.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, very true.

[Madeline]

No, they are such like you're asking her to jog her memory in this moment. Like damn bro, you're not even taking her down memory lane. Like you're not like setting just took.

[Drew]

Her down memory lane with the poop knife. What are you talking about?

[Kai]

So I also have soil golf tournament in Chipotle. Also if we wanted to talk about the George Strait concert.

[Drew]

Oh, I don't think I've ever talked about the George Strait concert.

[Kai]

There is also moving clothes pins in kindergarten.

[Drew]

I don't remember that one.

[Kai]

Well, it's just in general, like when you would get in trouble you would have to go up in front of the class.

[Drew]

I don't remember that actually.

[Kai]

You don't?

[Madeline]

I remember that chart of like it would have color.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

It was an apple have to go or ours. Oh yeah. Sometimes they were out.

[Kai]

I remember having to move my apple from a green to a yellow.

[Drew]

You know what you did? I was so unlike you because you were like goody too.

[Kai]

It was I can't remember who it was. I literally was just talking about who it was, cuz I saw him on Facebook the other day, and I was like, that guy made me move my freaking apple. And like, I still remember the cuz I. That's the only time I've ever really gotten in trouble in school. And it was because he would not stop talking to me, and I had to go up in front of the entire freaking class. We both did.

[Drew]

Was it the kid that ate Elmer's glue?

[Kai]

No, it wasn't him. It was.

[Drew]

Do you remember what he did in the lunchroom?

[Kai]

What?

[Drew]

He, like, ate a jug of Elmer's glue. And then, like, he would. He would literally drink glue and eat crayons. Like, he literally would just do that.

[Madeline]

There's always that kid. There's a kid you could pay a dollar to eat anything. And I mean, like, oh, he was doing it. Really?

[Drew]

He was doing it.

[Madeline]

Okay, see, that's crazy. Yeah, this kid had a hustle to his.

[Drew]

He literally was, like, jerking off in the cafeteria at one point. Yes, I.

[Madeline]

Someone check home.

[Kai]

Dude, I. I wonder what people say about us. Like, Madeline and Drew. Like, oh, my God, when they used to do this in first.

[Drew]

Mine is. Remember when Drew farted in front of the class? That was more third grade. Yeah, that literally. I'm not kidding. I didn't fart in front of another human being.

[Steven]

Was it on that we had.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

When we first. We had a banner so mad if somebody farted. Like, you were so prudish with your body in that way. Like, that was the only lie you couldn't. Farts were just so disgusting. And it would make Drew.

[Drew]

Well, I hope I have my reasons. It's third grade, and we also didn't have, like, a farting family. Like, people's families, like, fart in front of them. And it's funny. Like, ours, like, that was off limit. One time Jared farted in. He. Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. He, like, farted in his hand and then cupped it over my face. And then I literally projectile vomited into the kitchen. Kitchen garbage can. And from that moment on.

[Kai]

Well, there's also video proof of Jared farting on me while I'm sleeping on the couch. And I'm literally.

[Drew]

We need to find that dude. Our brothers were up.

[Madeline]

Too much because I was, like, with Natalie and Leo, bro. There was a period where they were cognitive enough where they would get annoyed, but you knew, like, it wasn't the worst, but Just to see your little sibling have such a visceral reaction to something that is like, so stupid was so funny.

[Drew]

Bro, you used to spit on your siblings pillows.

[Madeline]

Okay, no, no. Also, I need to clarify. That was only one of my sisters. And me and her, we have gotten and through it. Guys, there's no more spitting on the pillows. We're grown now. Now if it gets there, we're like, I want to slap the fuck out of you. We need to stop speaking to each other.

[Drew]

Respect. Do you. Did we talk about Jackass last time?

[Madeline]

I think you did, because.

[Drew]

Yeah, I mean, I've talked about it before, but our brothers used to, like, roll us down, like, steep hills.

[Kai]

They would be like, wagons.

[Drew]

Yeah, wagons and trash cans. And we would be like, all cut up and bruised. And they recorded all of it.

[Kai]

Well, I wasn't really a part of that. I was left out. Out as like. I mean, I have my older sister too, but I was like five years younger than her. Six years. So I was always left out.

[Drew]

And we also called you Ape.

[Kai]

Yeah, no. Chewbacca. Chewacca.

[Drew]

And you know, ugliest girl in the world when you look that picture.

[Kai]

Oh, yeah. We did talk about this one for sure. Yeah, I know that.

[Madeline]

So up. Dude. I don't know if I had anything like that for.

[Kai]

Yeah, y' all were low key. Me like, dude, I drama blocked all of that.

[Drew]

No, that's like brother now, right?

[Madeline]

It's true. No, I mean, it is, bruh.

[Drew]

Well, okay. Also, keep in mind, I was the same age as Madeline, so I wasn't really leading the charge. I was just joining in and being cool with my brother. It was that computer room.

[Kai]

Yeah. Do you remember what mom's password was? You don't remember the. Our family computer password? Come on, if I say it, you're gonna be like, what?

[Drew]

Give me the first letter F. He doesn't. Was it fuck?

[Kai]

Fuck head. Seven?

[Drew]

Yeah, fuckhead, seven.

[Kai]

Because mom was.

[Drew]

That is it.

[Kai]

Mom was apparently mad at the people setting up the computer or the WI fi, and so she made that the fastword. That's what we were typing in at.

[Drew]

Like 8, 3 years old.

[Kai]

But again, our mom and dad were awesome, but a little too awesome in the sense of letting our six year.

[Drew]

Olds die, letting us do whatever the fuck we wanted to do, bro.

[Madeline]

I mean, I was getting up to knit good in my house. Also, I was one of the kids who was stealing medicine. So, like, my family always had to hide medicine. Cause I would go in the fridge and take it and like, then My little siblings became those kids, and it was so fucking annoying to, like, find them drinking a bunch of random medicine out of the fridge. Fridge. Like, are you supposed to even keep medicine in the fridge? That's still something. I don't really.

[Drew]

Some of them are. Yeah.

[Kai]

There's, like, some that need to be refrigerant.

[Drew]

See, I was.

[Kai]

The antibiotics type stuff.

[Madeline]

It wasn't like my family was putting, like, Dramamine and nyquil and dayquil and in the fridge.

[Kai]

I don't know about that.

[Drew]

I don't think it's, like, bad for it. I doubt it. Probably makes it last.

[Madeline]

I guess maybe my family does it also, because it's hot as balls in Miami, so if you, like, leave it out, it's, like, also gelatin.

[Kai]

I was like, melt it all together.

[Drew]

Yeah. I was the kid stealing medicine when I was 17.

[Madeline]

Oh.

[Kai]

Are you okay? Are you about to fall asleep?

[Madeline]

He's losing it.

[Kai]

Did you eat something?

[Drew]

No, I didn't.

[Madeline]

I still can't believe I ate it.

[Drew]

I actually ate a. I. I ate a chocolate chip protein pancake.

[Madeline]

Nice.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Is that what that macro stuff was?

[Madeline]

Sorry, I'm trying to see if I have anything written down.

[Drew]

Have you thought about normal or abnormal? We did.

[Kai]

I think the food one was a good one, but no, because I've been talking.

[Drew]

Actually. No. Our entire family. Like, we would bring, like, we would bring Mormon kids to our fucking house.

[Kai]

I know. Yeah.

[Drew]

And turn them out. We would give them soda, and they were like. And all of them. All of them are ex Mormons now, by the way.

[Kai]

I had a friend that. Yeah, she loved coming over to her house because it was, like, free reign. Like, she was, like, able to drink all these sodas. She was off the wall when she drank those sodas. But, like, yeah, she got to.

[Drew]

She was the girl. And she's cool as still.

[Kai]

She is now. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I loved her, obviously. She was my best friend.

[Drew]

She's, like, literally one of the only. Only like, liberal people from Granberry.

[Kai]

Yeah. And, like, hardcore about it.

[Drew]

Like, she's real as.

[Madeline]

But since y' all gave her a soda, you unleashed. It's like that Drake Sprite commercial that actually happened to her.

[Drew]

It opened her mind.

[Madeline]

That was back when Sprite was actually crazy. Like, it actually did those kind of things to your mind.

[Kai]

Yeah, I did think about some, like, unconventional things, which also. I don't know, because I do hear more about, like. I do hear more about, like, kids talking about this, but, like, the stuff we were watching as children, I, like, Now being a parent am like what? Like dad let us watch that. But then I was so you would be like how old were you? And I was like, oh, I was like seven. And I was like, oh my God.

[Drew]

We were watching like people get like, like jigsaw, like literally like legs getting ripped off and like 6 year olds. Like it was crazy. And then we also. I was talking to like one of my friend, like still really good friends to this day. And he was like, yeah, like I remember the first time I came over to your house. Like we watched Jaws and it was to this day he doesn't get in the ocean because he's scared of sharks because of that movie. Because we were also like 6 years old. And then the second time he came over, we were watching a movie that had boobs in it. And like my we, me and Hunter were like sitting like behind the couch watching. And then my dad knew we were watching and like the boobs came on the screen and my dad just paused it and turned around and said, did your parents let you watch this? And he was like, yes. And then like just kept watching it like it was crazy.

[Kai]

And his parents definitely did not like.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

I mean that's when I went over to my God family's house. My parents were kind of strict about like certain things. Like I wasn't allowed to watch horror movies, so I still didn't watch a lot. But now I'm a baby when it comes to any kind of like gore anything. Like it's disgusting to me. But my God, family who lived across the street, they were like real horror fans. Like they had all of like the Nightmare on Elm streets. Like Scream, saw Final Destination. They would always watch it and I would hear them talk about it. So like any scene I knew about from those movies is cuz I would listen to them talk about it and then when my friends would talk about it, I would act like I knew but. But they knew. Obviously my parents didn't let me watch that. But my older sibling got to watch it. And I would try to sneak around, but they would always catch me, bro. Like they did not play. I was like, I barely. And they wouldn't let me watch scary movie with them. And that one really hurt my feelings because I knew Scary movie. I was like, that's not even a scary movie.

[Kai]

It's like funny. Yeah.

[Madeline]

But then my, my God siblings would let me watch it with them and.

[Drew]

I was like, literally one of my earliest memories, like I. It was in Viejo house. Like how old were we? We Were like two.

[Kai]

We're like two. Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

I have a memory maybe.

[Drew]

Yeah. I have a memory of me waking up and all of the older siblings and dad were sitting on the couch. And I remember like toddling into the living room and seeing the tv and they were playing Mortal Kombat on the tv. And I remember just like bug eyed watching like Mortal Kombat, like people just getting ripped to shreds. And then, then Sam saw me and was like, drew's been watching us. And then dad picked me up and like ran me back to the room. But like, I like, had escaped the crib or some. But like, I literally like, remember like my journey down the hall. Like, that's one of one, that one. And then another really early memory I have is walking into the house that we grew up in Cimarron, and walking into that upstairs room that had the pool table in it. It and seeing just floor to ceiling presents, like wrapped all up the walls for the family that lived there before us. When we were like touring the house.

[Kai]

I remember that I was so jealous.

[Drew]

And I thought that's what our Christmases were gonna look like.

[Kai]

And our Christmas tree was never up there.

[Drew]

Yeah. But our Christmas, we had lit after Christmas. Like, we had like, our Christmases were.

[Kai]

Santa went all out for us.

[Drew]

No, like, they. They cooked, like, remember we Christmas.

[Kai]

Yeah. Getting the weed.

[Drew]

Oh my God.

[Madeline]

That. You said weed Christmas. I was like, damn. Your parents for real didn't give a fuck.

[Drew]

No. I need to make it very clear. Like, our parents were great. They were perfect. They raised good children.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

But a lot of the time I had a lot to do.

[Madeline]

But I feel like that's most parents, sadly, like most parents, even the best ones, their kid is gonna have something to say, like. Cause there's always. It's just too funny. Like, what? Because even seeing you guys with, with, I feel like going into adulthood, something I had to just swallow was looking at my parent and just knowing this is a person who was given a responsibility far out of their realm. Too early. They're stunted. We're all stunted. Blah, blah, blah.

[Kai]

And it's our first time. Everyone's first time living.

[Madeline]

Everyone's first time doing it. And it's so funny, like, seeing y' all. Y' all do such a good job with her. There are moments where I like, step back and I'm looking, I'm like, like, this is so funny because these two people are like, dumb. Like, but like, not dumb, but dumb the way we. I find all my friends to Be dumb. Because I'm like.

[Drew]

I'm like, oh, y' all.

[Madeline]

Known you for long enough to see you be so silly. Yeah, but you're. You're a mom now.

[Drew]

It's like the. The duality. I don't remember what, like, point it was, but, like, realizing that, like, my parents aren't like, like, super geniuses. Like, I'm not calling my parents stupid, but, like, I.

[Kai]

They're not the superheroes that we like. Literally.

[Drew]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kai]

They're just people. People, too. Like.

[Drew]

Yeah. I mean, my mom.

[Kai]

In a good way.

[Drew]

My mom is pretty close to a superhero.

[Kai]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

Pretty damn.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

My parents.

[Drew]

She saved my life a couple times. Mom saved my life.

[Kai]

I also saved your life.

[Drew]

That's true. But you caused me to want to kill myself. Should we get into it?

[Madeline]

Reason?

[Kai]

Wait. First off, I want to say to the, like, being scared and stuff or, like, watching scary stuff. Our parents wondered why we were, like, 11 years old, still sleeping in their room. It was because my dad would let us watch Chucky, like, so freaking young.

[Madeline]

Young.

[Kai]

He would put Chucky dolls at the top of our stairs.

[Drew]

See?

[Kai]

Chucky dolls at the top of our. I'm still, like, terrified to this day.

[Drew]

I hate going upstairs.

[Kai]

Yeah. And he'd put chuggy dolls at the top. And then my mom would, like, get so fed up because we were, like, terrified of it. So my dad or my mom threw it away. Well, my dad got it out of the trash can and put it back at the. Like, my mom's like, watch me. Like, we're throwing him away. He's not going to be here. My dad got it out again in and put it back on the stairs.

[Madeline]

We were all so annoying. Because she set him up for the perfect slam dunk. Yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

Because my dad is like, I would.

[Madeline]

Be the same way. Like, I think at this point now I'm much more cautious, but, like, oh.

[Drew]

My kids are getting trolled.

[Madeline]

I would troll the. I still do it to my siblings. Like, I can't. I try so hard not to do it to Luna because I'm, like, like, more aware, but I'm like. It's so easy to just lie to them right now. Like, they can literally. You can say anything. And they're like, what?

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

Oh, by the way, my vape on the floor when she was passing by. And because it's a childlike color, her eyes were drawn to it, and she looked down at it and she didn't touch. And she just goes, what that? And, like, really low. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. And she went to go reach for it. And all I can think is, I'm like, bro, it really does look like a toy. It's the first time in my life I have to think about leaving it.

[Kai]

Around sound because I'm like, there is a literal child.

[Drew]

Also, I have told that story on this podcast, like, five different times. And I'm not kidding. You literally said it the exact same way I've said it. Like, really? Yeah, like, literally, verbatim. Like, it's so.

[Kai]

No, it's ingrained.

[Drew]

It was traumatizing. Like, people don't realize. And then when we. Like.

[Kai]

Because I remember seeing that Chucky again on the stairs, and I was like. Like, freaking terrifying.

[Drew]

And then singing. Mom and dad telling us to sing to the cable guys, and they did.

[Kai]

Not think it was funny.

[Drew]

And then mom and dad. Mom and the cable guys did not think it was funny. So mom and dad got mad at us. And then we're like, why are you doing this? Why did you do that in front of them?

[Kai]

Gaslighting us? And we're like.

[Drew]

We were like, wait, you told us to sing it it again.

[Kai]

We have to reiterate also, like, they. Mom and dad were awesome.

[Madeline]

They did really good jobs, especially because twins. Twins would be too funny. Like, especially a boy and a girl twin. It's literally the traveling talent show. Like, I would. I would. I would make my kids learn dances. Choreos. The two twins who talk over each other. I would have my twins doing that.

[Drew]

I would say time. I would hate for us to be boy. Boy or girl? Girl.

[Kai]

Yeah. There would be so much competition.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. It would have been terrible because you're very competitive, too. One time, Meline, like, do you remember the basketball game? Meline, like, was psycho. Like, she.

[Kai]

She.

[Drew]

She's very, like, demure, very put together. Like, chill girl.

[Kai]

But, like, when I was in basketball.

[Drew]

She was angry, you were angry, you were violent. You. She would, like, push people over.

[Kai]

I would elbow people in the nose. Like I was mad, dude.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. It was crazy. And then you broke your wrist or your elbow?

[Kai]

My elbow.

[Drew]

Karma, Karma got its kiss. It's giv a take a yin and a yang.

[Kai]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

Right, right. Well, did you think anything else on what I do that pisses you off? I'm dramatic. You always say that.

[Kai]

That's the go. That's the first thing that came to mind. But, yeah, just being dramatic. I don't know. There's really not anything else. Honestly, I feel like you're a pretty Good brother.

[Drew]

I am a good brother.

[Kai]

You really are.

[Madeline]

I think you are.

[Kai]

You really are. That's all he wanted to hear.

[Madeline]

I know.

[Kai]

He was like, oh, no, there's nothing. There's nothing. Oh, no, honestly. No, honestly. Which I don't live with him, so I. If I lived with you, what's yours in you being OCD and, like, needing to clean everything?

[Madeline]

Like, yeah, but the way he does it is so, like, oh, my God, look at me. Me rolling my eyes. Like, it's so, like, sorry.

[Drew]

The house is spotless all the time.

[Madeline]

Literally finding my things in little piles where I'm. Like, it would have made so much more sense to just leave this where it was because I'm not, like, taking off my shoes and, like, throwing them across the room. They're usually where I see shoes or, like, I'll put them in a corner. Whatever. I do leave shoes around. But Drew does this thing where randomly, he just, like, becomes fed up, and he just, like, will go around the house and he's cleaning. But what that means is literally grabbing me and Josh's stuff and taking it to our room and being, like, in a pile right in front of our doors. And I'm like, this looks much worse.

[Kai]

He did make sure to tell me earlier two or three times that he cleaned the kitchen. He was like, I'm cleaning the kitchen.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

Literally his big thing.

[Drew]

Like, yeah.

[Madeline]

Like, he doesn't move in silence.

[Drew]

Like, everybody will know the tree and lasagna, babe.

[Madeline]

Like, no, it's literally.

[Drew]

Everybody's gonna hear me.

[Madeline]

Is like, my flowers. My flowers.

[Drew]

Where are they? Where are they?

[Madeline]

You get them.

[Drew]

I run it. I run a tight ship, and you either can handle it or you can't. And, like, it's my fatal flaw that.

[Madeline]

You are a freak out. You're. You're literally. You are the biggest crash out I know.

[Drew]

Like, yeah. And you saw me crash out last night.

[Madeline]

Oh, not just like. And you've seen me. Oh, you've seen me go through it. But Drew is, like, such a drama queen. But I've learned to, like, like you.

[Drew]

You learn how to figure it out. You. You.

[Madeline]

I grew up with a lot of drama queens. Like, all of my siblings were very.

[Drew]

Like, can we all agree also that Kai is such a.

[Steven]

What?

[Madeline]

Yeah, I was going to think that. Yeah.

[Steven]

I was feeling. Where did that come from? Where did you.

[Drew]

From my heart from.

[Steven]

From heaven. I'm like an angel.

[Madeline]

You've never been.

[Drew]

No. Kai is really gods. And we were talking about Kai the other day. Me and Anya were We were saying how we missed you.

[Kai]

Oh, my God.

[Drew]

He's the coolest girl in the world.

[Madeline]

You're so cute, Luna. Do you like the glasses? Thank you.

[Kai]

Yeah, put them on. Is she pretty? Is she so beautiful? Yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

What about me, Luna? Am I beautiful?

[Madeline]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Thank you.

[Steven]

Oh, again.

[Madeline]

Her.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Steven]

The second one wasn't genuine.

[Kai]

And I love you.

[Madeline]

I literally want to pinch her. I love her. It's, like, so bad. I want to, like.

[Drew]

Can I have a high five, Luna? It's called love aggression.

[Kai]

Yeah, it actually does have a name.

[Madeline]

Luna. You make me so aggressive. I want to squish you. I want to stomp on you.

[Kai]

You want to go sit with. Do.

[Madeline]

You're a crazy girl.

[Kai]

Do you want to go sit with Drew or Inya?

[Drew]

Sit within you, Luna. I'm so hungry, I could eat dew. She's out.

[Madeline]

Oh, I wish y' all could stay longer.

[Drew]

I know. We were talking about that today. We were sad that you're leaving tomorrow. And then he was like, why don't they just extend their flight? And I was like, they have a toddler.

[Kai]

Yeah, I don't think that's gonna stay.

[Madeline]

And then I was like, yeah, I.

[Kai]

Guess we didn't have Luna with us. Maybe. But also, I know she's, like, the star of the show. Like, she's the reason why.

[Madeline]

No, I thought that because when we.

[Kai]

Were all in the late.

[Madeline]

The living room last night, if I didn't get the suds feeling, I started to feel like I was getting the suds, so I went upstairs. I got a bit sad, but, like, when we were all in the living room, I was like, damn, us all. Hanging out is so vibe.

[Drew]

It's a vibe. Where were you showering?

[Kai]

Oh, yeah, you were gone for a long day.

[Drew]

Yeah, I was showering. Yeah, I did the everything shower.

[Madeline]

That's kind of what I was getting up to. And then I was gonna start cleaning, and I was like, oh, my God. Seriously, if I get locked in my bathroom cleaning one more time and this year, I'm gonna freak out.

[Drew]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Kai]

What?

[Drew]

I wasn't gonna say. Oh, we were talking about how we missed Kai.

[Steven]

Oh, who is we?

[Madeline]

You keep saying we.

[Steven]

We Luna interrupted it, and I think we should circle back.

[Madeline]

Yeah, no, because the problem is the second I start being nice to Kai, it's like, oh, we're dating. Oh, what do y' all want? Do you want me to hit him or.

[Steven]

No, we're not dating.

[Madeline]

Sound off in the comments.

[Drew]

Right?

[Kai]

And this is gonna fall if you keep talking about it.

[Drew]

They're not dating.

[Madeline]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I'm not gonna say, oh, yeah, divine intervention or maybe something good might happen. Guys, they're not dating. I just want to make that very clear. They are not seeing each other.

[Madeline]

Drew and Kai, however, let's.

[Drew]

I'm also not dating Kai, but Inyan Kai are.

[Steven]

I tell people that I'm dating Drew.

[Drew]

Drew doesn't claim me, Inya's not on Ozempic, and Kai is not dating Anya.

[Madeline]

Yeah, and that's my out of it, bro. What I got in my fridge is nobody's business.

[Drew]

India is not wearing a wig right now.

[Madeline]

Well, to be clear, I have Ozempic, ab shaving, a mini tummy tuck, a minor breast lift with a wig. A wig veneer.

[Drew]

Really? We need to start that route.

[Madeline]

I need to go to Turkey for my hairline, though. Who's going to send me.

[Drew]

Wait, hold on, guys. Turkish Airwaves. More like fuck.

[Madeline]

Okay. We need to let you.

[Drew]

Turkish Airways. More like Turkish hair waves.

[Steven]

Okay. Yeah, because hair transplants. I got it.

[Drew]

Turkey hair transplant plant.

[Madeline]

Okay, we're gonna wrap this episode up because Luna is wanting her mother. Meline's gonna go be a mother.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

And I'm gonna go be a caretaker for my iPhone. That's fine.

[Drew]

Bruce.

[Madeline]

I.

[Drew]

Up corner. Oh, y' all thought. Y' all thought.

[Kai]

Wait, we didn't say the real reason.

[Madeline]

Oh, yeah.

[Kai]

People would be living. They would be living.

[Drew]

Yeah. Clock it.

[Kai]

Okay. Honestly, we hyped it up for, like, nothing, but basically, I don't know if it was the same day as the Chipotle thing.

[Drew]

I think it was.

[Kai]

It might have. And that might have been why we were picking on you.

[Drew]

It was a golf tournament, and then.

[Kai]

Whoever wins at the golf tournament score is better. We. They got to choose. So I actually beat Drew this time while Drew was throwing a hissy fit because he really wanted to go to Chipotle.

[Drew]

Never had it. It was all over Tumblr at the time.

[Kai]

It was like a really.

[Drew]

It was in.

[Madeline]

It was huge.

[Drew]

And it was also the only. Chipotle was, like, an hour and a half away.

[Madeline]

And this was pre the gloopy mess. This was when Chipotle was.

[Drew]

It was top.

[Madeline]

Yeah, it's gorgeous. No one had seen it in real life, so we all thought it looked like those stock images. We didn't know the goop.

[Drew]

We were getting into the gray matter.

[Madeline]

Yeah.

[Kai]

So we go there. Wait, Finally, I'm like, okay, fine, Drew, we can go. Because he was freaking out because he didn't want what I wanted. And so we go there. Drew orders a bowl, burrito, whatever, literally did not touch it. He took, like, maybe one bite. He took pictures.

[Drew]

He took pictures of it, and they went straight. Straight to my Tumblr.

[Kai]

Yeah, he took pictures and took, like, one or two bites.

[Drew]

Two. It was two.

[Kai]

So anyway, we were, like, making fun of him for that, like, being like, oh, my God, you made us go there, and you didn't even eat yada, yada, yada.

[Drew]

Soil, too, was thrown in there.

[Kai]

Yeah, soil. Well, then we're on our way home. And I don't know if, like, I said it or if my dad said it. It was probably me, honestly, but I think I said something about, like, Drew being gay. And I watched him, like, shut down. Like, we've never made that joke before. We've never said anything. And I watched him, like, shut down. And I remember just, like, looking at him, and I was like, oh. I was like, that might have, like, extract something. That was something that was a little too far. Well, then, Drew, that's when he ran upstairs as soon as we got home.

[Steven]

That's literally also the same exact reaction that you do on the podcast. You, like, go silent and then you leave.

[Kai]

Yeah. So he ran upstairs. That's when I was like, maybe I should go check on him. And that was, like, 10 minutes later. And I walk in, and he has, like, the pills.

[Drew]

I'm sitting here like this.

[Steven]

No.

[Drew]

With my pills. I was like, oh, they're gonna.

[Kai]

But then that's when I realized they're gonna learn. That's really when I started, like, thinking, oh, maybe that might be.

[Drew]

Maybe that is the thing.

[Madeline]

I remember one time being the way you own the catalyst out into your family. Accidentally, we were saying gay in the different ways.

[Steven]

It wasn't him uploading the photos to. Directly to his Tumblr.

[Madeline]

Yeah, it wasn't getting it. Not eating it for, like, photographing it.

[Drew]

Yeah. I remember one time, though, I had a very, very sweet, sincere moment with dad. We were like, I was probably, like, 12 or 13, and he, like, parents know, like, early. Early on, and, like, I was probably 12 or 13, and, like, it was just me and dad in the car, and I was sitting passenger, and it was probably, like, 10pm and we were just driving around our neighborhood, and he, like, looked at me, and he, like, pulled over the car, and he was like, listen, Drew, like, I want you to know that, like, whoever you are, whatever you want to be, whatever life you want to live, like, I love you and I will always love you, and I'm proud of you. And that stuck with me forever because we both knew what he was fucking talking about. Like, we both. We all knew, but, like, like, so my parents are chill guys. Yeah, it was a joke. It was comedy.

[Steven]

It's also incredible for Texas, too.

[Drew]

No, it's tea. Like, our parents were, like, liberal as growing up. Like, we really had that on lock.

[Kai]

Yeah, they really were awesome. And they still are awesome, obviously. But yeah, so I never actually said the real reason because I was, like, lowkey embarrassed and then gave me the.

[Madeline]

Laugh of a lifetime. So, like, literally, honestly, honestly, that is, like, the piece de resistance.

[Drew]

No, but every. Every, everybody has, like, a story.

[Madeline]

Like, bro. Oh, don't get me started with me and my siblings. Like, some of the words exchanged when it got to it, when it got, like, really nitty gritty, like, we're going deep. Like some shit you told me in passing in the bathroom three years ago about what you didn't, like when you looked in the mirror.

[Drew]

It's coming out.

[Madeline]

I remember. You think I don't remember?

[Drew]

Wait, that is so real. I do take a log. I do take a log of people. People's insecurities, but not.

[Madeline]

Not even on purpose. I think I take a log because I'm like, oh, like, that's such a weird thing to point out. But I also have the kind of brain that you can't tell me anything because I don't get anything, and I hold on to it. And yeah, me and my siblings would get down. Me and my sister, we would get into the kind of fist fights, but also, we were like, chronic bad girls club watchers. So we would get into the kind of fist fights that were, like, literally. That you had to wear is your decorum. Like, we would be on the wood floor, like, like holding each other down, putting each other down, like, literally counting down, like, oh, my God. But honestly, so fun. I wish me and my sister could, like, fight like that again, but, like, not seriously. Does that make sense? Because there is something about it now that looking back, it is so funny because did we ever hit each other? That feeling doesn't go away of wanting to just, like, tussle with a sibling. I feel like it's more common for siblings of, like, the same gender.

[Kai]

Yeah, I don't. I think I was off. Off limits.

[Madeline]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Because I think that was a thing. And I don't think I really hit you either. Like, I feel like maybe the sister.

[Drew]

You would hit me a little bit.

[Kai]

Would I?

[Drew]

Yeah. And not, like, crazy.

[Madeline]

Oh, my God, Madeline, you're evil.

[Kai]

Wow. I don't remember that at all, but obviously you would probably remember it more.

[Drew]

And our older sister.

[Kai]

Oh, yeah. She.

[Madeline]

She.

[Kai]

Not to you.

[Drew]

Not to me.

[Kai]

No, I was.

[Drew]

I was.

[Madeline]

There's something. All of my home girls, there's something about two sisters that's like. Like, it literally is just like. Like, it's the Alien vs. Predator movie. That is what. Two sisters who are, like, crossing paths hormonally and, like, it's not. It's not their fault. Like, just two girls going through it shouldn't be left alone at any given time and let alone, like, if it's competitive because let alone the internalized misogyny. Yeah. My sister is. Is, like, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous girl. So everyone, like, it was her word against mine, top to bottom, and that we fought. But now, like, I love her so much. There's literally, like, nothing she could do wrong in my eyes. That's my crazy girl. I love her. Like, I wish we could fight.

[Drew]

Jody would beat the. Out of my brothers. Like, really, really.

[Madeline]

Like, I mean, from the sound of, like, the older brothers.

[Kai]

Yeah, they kind of.

[Madeline]

They needed that.

[Kai]

Like, oh, they were mean to her garbage.

[Drew]

No, they would pour liquid ass. Ass on me. Like, they would tase me and my friends. Like, they would chase us around with tasers until we pissed ourselves. Like, they were evil, bro. They would hold me down and do what's called a turkey tap, where they would tap the sternum in my chest over and over and over again until, like. Like, it doesn't sound crazy, but, like, once you do it 150 times. Also, they would grab, like, this part of your. My leg, and it hurts. Oh, fucking bad, dude. Oh, my God. But at the same time, I got my first taser with my older brother.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And he made me tase myself with it so I didn't do it to other people.

[Kai]

Yeah. He had to go through it first.

[Drew]

Yeah. And then he also bought me my first gun, and he made me shoot myself with it so I didn't shoot other people with it.

[Madeline]

Well, my badass cousin gave me a BB gun, and I only ever got to hold one for one second because I got it and immediately shot my older sibling right in the middle of the eyes while they were watching, watching Naruto. And it was Christmas Eve, and I got the ass whooping of a lifetime. And everybody in my family was like, you just ruined your gifts. And I really thought I was gonna get gifts, but I got all my gifts. You and don't put that gun back in my hand because you're next. I wanted a BB gun so bad after that. I. I couldn't believe. Like.

[Drew]

Did you ever want a paintball gun?

[Madeline]

Oh yeah.

[Drew]

I wanted a paintball gun so bad. Like literally so bad.

[Kai]

Mom would have not trusted you.

[Drew]

No, because the second I got a. What are those things where you pull the thing back?

[Madeline]

Oh, a slingshot.

[Drew]

A slingshot. I put a rock in a slingshot. I was trying to shoot it over the roof of the house and I was like. I did it once and twice and then like aimed it like a little lower. Kind of like not on purpose, but kind of on purpose to see what would happen. And I just pulled it back as hard as I could and let go.

[Kai]

And it hit like straight into the window.

[Drew]

Not. It wasn't even a window. It was even worse. It was a sliding glass door. So it was like the most expensive thing ever. And it just exploded. Dude, it was. And I like freaked out. I don't think I broke a bunch of windows. Actually. I was stay. I stayed breaking windows.

[Madeline]

I only broke one window. And it was when my older sister woke me up to do the dishes. And I was so mad. And I was in my sister's bunk bed because I didn't believe in outside clothes on my bed. So I would sleep on my sister's bunk bed because she didn't give a fuck. So I would sleep on hers. And my. My sister came in to wake me up and I was so mad that I turned over and like like kicked or punched out. Like I like was throwing a tantrum. And I smashed the window and I just taped it up and there was hella mosquitoes and gnats and stuff covered in that crack. And I just covered it with the curtain. Cuz I was like, I can't.

[Drew]

I can't deal with this.

[Madeline]

Cuz I was, I was big. I was already like 15. So I had no business like throwing a tantrum.

[Drew]

You'd have to pay for it yourself.

[Madeline]

Yeah, I would have to figure something out. And I was like, there's no figuring that out.

[Drew]

Yeah. And you or Madeline, what's some bad shit you did that? Like, we didn't really know. I mean you were like good all.

[Kai]

The time, but like genuinely, I literally could not tell you.

[Drew]

Like you didn't drink or smoke or anything.

[Kai]

I was like, I think my first drink, I was 18 and it was when we were in Montreal when it was legal.

[Drew]

Oh yeah.

[Kai]

Like actually. And I was.

[Drew]

I guess I do remember Meeting you.

[Madeline]

And I was like, damn, this is a crazy combo because you're bad as fudge and you like, you did not play.

[Kai]

I like stayed in the hotel room the whole time.

[Drew]

Yeah. No, there had to have been some like breaking a window or like, did you almost set the house on fire or did I make that up?

[Kai]

You must have made that up because.

[Drew]

I really know that was mom throwing Christmas boxes in the fire.

[Kai]

Oh yeah, that was mom.

[Drew]

Oh my God.

[Kai]

That was mom. No, I literally like we tried. Me and Steven tried to think about that. I was like, dang. I really was like low key, a good kid. And it wasn't like I was like scared of mom and dad. Like I just. Just didn't want to like disappoint them. I don't know. I was like always so terrified of them finding out about like. I don't know.

[Drew]

I was also scared of that. But I just figured out how to hide it.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I was so good at hiding things from them.

[Kai]

I guess I just. Yeah. I didn't think I was clever enough to hide it. I don't know. I just didn't. Just didn't do it.

[Madeline]

Or it's because you're born to be a truth teller and this is a pathological liar.

[Kai]

Yeah. Yeah. A. Huh. You used to lie a lot.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

But now I feel like we actually believe you.

[Drew]

Who knows?

[Kai]

Yeah, me and mom were talking about that actually.

[Drew]

Who knows?

[Kai]

We were saying like this is probably like three years ago. Or mom was like, you said something recently. Something happened. I don't know. And mom was like, I actually believe him. She was like, three years ago, I wouldn't have. But I actually believe him.

[Drew]

Three years ago I was still a liar in yalls eyes.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Chop.

[Madeline]

Well, also it's the liar in the dramatic combo. Yeah. Like it's like. Yeah.

[Kai]

You're like add stuff.

[Drew]

I'm an embellisher.

[Kai]

Yes.

[Drew]

I'm an exaggerator.

[Kai]

Exactly.

[Drew]

I was. We were just talking about that on the episode. There's a difference.

[Kai]

Yeah. Exaggerator. I would say that. Not just liar.

[Drew]

Yeah, there's a difference.

[Kai]

But no, we were laughing about that because mom was like, yeah, I actually believe him.

[Madeline]

See.

[Drew]

Well, mom also stole thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars.

[Madeline]

Not.

[Kai]

Not. No, she did not.

[Madeline]

No.

[Kai]

We're taking her to court.

[Madeline]

Taking her to court. And I'm going with him. I'm standing with. Yeah.

[Drew]

And is helping me.

[Madeline]

I'm going with my man to court.

[Drew]

She hates when I say that.

[Kai]

She does not. Like when you say that.

[Drew]

She's an embezzler. Funds. Yeah.

[Madeline]

Truth hurts. Pam. No, Pam is literally the best mom ever. Remember when I visited? Did. When was that? I think I was there for Mother's Day or something.

[Drew]

It was when Frank Ocean dropped Chanel. Or was. Are you thinking at a different time?

[Madeline]

I think it was a different time. It was more recently. It was you, me and Orion were in town.

[Drew]

Oh, Easter.

[Madeline]

And I cried so hard saying bye to Yalls mom. Like, I literally cried like, I was saying bye to my mom, and I was like, oh, my God. But she is just.

[Drew]

No, my mom is so mother. Like, she really is Mother Goose.

[Madeline]

Clean mother.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Madeline]

Are you gonna do psyop corner, Drew?

[Drew]

Psyop. My granny just said Q as in cucumber Lord, she's ready.

[Madeline]

What?

[Drew]

Kids don't even say dookie head anymore. They'll just call you A.

[Madeline]

Oh, my God. I can't wait till, like, Luna gets to the point where she says something like.

[Kai]

Like, she's trying to be.

[Madeline]

She's trying to be mean. It's not gonna come out as mean as she thinks.

[Drew]

I want Luna.

[Kai]

Like.

[Madeline]

Like, just think of whatever.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

No, I want Luna to be bad. Like, but not actually because, for y'.

[Kai]

All'S sake, like, only at home.

[Drew]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kai]

Like, I. I want her to be respectful outside. Like, obviously respectful to, like, kind of like we were with mom and dad. Like, we were definitely respectful to them, but also, they let us, like, be ourselves. I don't know. But, like, we knew our audience. We knew who we were around. We knew where we were at that, like, school. Dude, if our teachers knew what we were like at home, they would. They would be out. We live double life.

[Drew]

That's like, we were actors. We were, yes, ma' am, no, sir. And if we didn't say, yes, ma' am, no, sir, like, we would get, like, slaps on the back of our hands, type B. Like, literally. Not like. I'm not saying. I'm saying, like, metaphorically. Oh, I'm not saying we're actually getting slaps on our hand. Like, what is the saying? Like, isn't there, like, a slap? Slap on the wrist.

[Madeline]

A slap on the wrist.

[Drew]

Slap on the wrist. Yeah, we would get, like, yelled at. And if we didn't say, yes, ma' am, no, sir. Motherfuckers. Buy you one, McChicken. And swear they had your back through it all.

[Madeline]

That's you. Actually, that's me. To Madeline and Luna.

[Kai]

Yeah. Getting us coffee.

[Drew]

I was bullied for liking anime. No, tell the whole story. You Were running in the hallways thinking you were Naruto.

[Madeline]

Now tell the whole story. It's so funny.

[Drew]

I'm done.

[Madeline]

Okay, well, do you have any media you would like to share? Music, Movies?

[Kai]

I did not prepare anything.

[Drew]

What's the most recent movie you watched with or without Luna?

[Kai]

Mufasa and Lion King? The live action.

[Drew]

No, like, you watch on your TV all the time. Without Luna. Luna. Oh, the Black Mirror episode.

[Kai]

Yeah. Black Mirror.

[Drew]

The first episode of the Black Mirror. Madeline and Steven were like, you'll have to watch it. And we watched it. It was actually, like, crazy.

[Kai]

It's. I think you left maybe during it, but.

[Madeline]

Yeah, getting sad. So I went to my room. Oh, well. My media of the week is Love, Life and laughter.

[Drew]

After Live, Laugh, Love.

[Madeline]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Madeline]

I actually don't have any media to share.

[Drew]

My media of the week is. I don't know if you've heard of this app called Uber. Oh, but like, cars. Yeah. They come and pick you up.

[Madeline]

That's your.

[Kai]

I actually think we took one of those.

[Drew]

Really?

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, from Disney to lax. Yeah. That's so real. Yeah. Uber is a good one. Postmates is like Uber, but for food.

[Madeline]

My media is Funk Me by Marvin Gaye. That's it.

[Drew]

Mine. We were talking about songs that are like our life story. Like, if you could encapsulate, like, one song and it mean exactly what it feels like to be Drew or what it feels like to be Enya. Mine is Flow Fl O E by Philip Glass.

[Madeline]

And mine is We'll Live through these Long Years. I actually don't know the whole name.

[Drew]

And I've said it before, is Drive My Car.

[Madeline]

It's from the movie Drive My Car, which I've never seen. And thank you.

[Drew]

And this was Madeline. Thanks for being on. Again, sorry if I dominated the conversation. I tend to do that.

[Madeline]

I didn't feel like there was anything wrong with the way you presented yourself in front of two people who love you.

[Kai]

You. Yeah.

[Madeline]

Thank you for being on.

[Kai]

Of course.