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Drew
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Inya
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Eli
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Inya
I insisted first.
Roommate / Friend
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Inya
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Kai
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Roommate / Friend
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Inya
Here with the one, the only,
Drew
the wickedly talented. The wickedly talented.
Eli
Do you really feel that way? Yes.
Drew
Yes. I'm not even kidding. Like, I was like, I'm gonna save this for like, 15 minutes into the episode. But, like, your one woman show, like, I. I literally told Inya, like, that was, like, one of the first times in a very long time I was genuinely, like, inspired to create. Like, it was so special. Like, when I was, like, texting you, like, it was special. Like, that was so major. And, like, we already, like, loved you before, but, like, seeing you perform and seeing your personality on stage legitimately made us fall in love with you. Like, it was crazy.
Inya
It literally. I've never been in a room. And I. I also. I'm like, I've been to a concert or two. Like, I'm such a concert goer, so I'm dead serious about it. And if I don't like someone show, I literally just never speak about it because I'm like, ooh. But I. On the two episodes ago, we were literally. We talked about it for, like, 10 minutes.
Drew
I've talked about it literally every single episode since I went to the first show.
Eli
What is your thoughts? What are your thoughts? Thank you so much. Like, seriously, thank you so much. Why am I, like, suddenly, like, acting like, hi.
Inya
Like, hi, hey. Well, no, it's because we're, like, opening the episode. Like, let's just drown her in compliments.
Drew
No, what are your thoughts?
Eli
Honestly, like, it meant, like, it was like, the fact that you guys came, like, meant the fucking world to me. Like, I.
Inya
Because I was. When I saw that you had invited me, I was like, oh. Oh, my God. Because I hadn't seen that you were going to Have a show. And then when I found out it was at Bob Baker, I was just like, this is like, everything that means something to me. This is.
Eli
It's so special there. It's so magical. It's like all the good things about Disney World.
Drew
The good.
Inya
Also your puppet, like, that whole section.
Drew
Was that a puppet in the back that you picked out or did they make? No.
Eli
So my friend Abby, Abby Sage, she makes music, amazing music, and also has played at Bob Baker with puppets before. And she makes puppets. So she made. I like, begged her to make me a puppet. And. Yeah.
Inya
That's so amazing.
Eli
It's the cutest puppet. I want to take it like, with me everywhere. The puppet.
Drew
Yeah.
Inya
So awesome. Wait, how did that, like, come to fruition? We like to say, like, that fruit tissue.
Eli
The puppet or the whole show?
Inya
Like, what even inspired you to do that?
Eli
I like that question.
Inya
Yeah, I'm like, that was my random thing.
Eli
Really?
Inya
Yeah. I mean, again, I. I would like to think that I live a very spoiled life in terms of I'm not only like, close friends with artists, but I get to go to so many shows. And it genuinely is one of the like, most interesting concepts of a show. One, because it's so intimate. Like, it's a very insane thing to set up.
Drew
Yeah. I was crying, laughing every time you were like, this is awkward as like, wait, you said like, y' all aren't living or something like that. I literally like, are you all not living in India? We're like, we're living out loud. Just.
Inya
Well, I felt like a tweaker in my seat because I was like, literally,
Eli
like, I needed it though. Like, when I looked at you, I was like, oh, thank God their living.
Inya
I was so happy.
Eli
Like, honestly, the show was to make you guys like me.
Drew
Thank you.
Eli
It was all for us. Okay.
Inya
But yeah. How did it come to you to be.
Eli
It was January 2024, peak, like taking edible every night.
Drew
And I was like, inya's there now.
Eli
Yeah, Camino. It was like Camino. And I was just like, I need.
Inya
It was a Camino winter. It always is.
Eli
And I just.
Drew
Your year of rest and relaxation.
Eli
You guys are too funny and scared of me.
Inya
Okay, okay, okay.
Eli
So you're sorry, what did I do? I wrote a song about. No, I think it was just like, I was like peak dysphoria and I like, hadn't really come to terms with my truth in life.
Inya
Yeah. Really? Yeah.
Eli
And I was like, why don't I just like, put all those feelings into a one woman show. And, like, not only, like, why don't I. Like, I don't also don't even, like, live for one woman shows. And, like, I also, like, felt like I was doing slam poetry at one point, and I just, like, did not. It was like all these things I don't actually, like. Like, I don't. I'm not a theater kid. Like, I wish. I wish.
Inya
Well, the great thing is, from the outside looking in, it seemed like something you had done before. I would have assumed that, like, you were a part of some sort of play growing up.
Drew
Because it is also.
Inya
It really is a big deal being two people who have had to, like, be in front of a crowd, not sing. That's crazy. But, like, to have to balance, like, being funny and, like, entertain, I. That's something I think I'm reserving for
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
when I'm in my 40s.
Eli
Oh, fire.
Inya
Yeah.
Drew
I think I have the voice of an.
Inya
It's not gonna go anywhere. It's literally just gonna be, like, some really cryptic, scary thing that someone's gonna find like a bird CD of when I'm dead and be like, oh, she
Eli
lost her shit 10 on piss 100.
Drew
If I made music, you wouldn't have a career. I'll just say that much right now. Yeah. Like, I. I'm like. Well, I've been saying I think I would be a very good pop star. Like, just in general, I would love it, but I think I would actually be terrible.
Inya
This is somebody who.
Eli
I would be, like, masked singer.
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
Drew
You know, with a bag over my face is what they're saying. I'm ugly as fuck.
Inya
Wow.
Drew
We walked in. We walked in and Eli, we were like, saying hi, and Eli was like, oh, Kai. Oh, the hot one. What about me in India?
Inya
And it didn't look at us for a goddamn second.
Kai
It was so. Thank you for bringing that up. I was going to bring that up if you didn't.
Eli
Everybody here is hot. No, I'll.
Inya
I'll let. Kai needs that.
Kai
I do need that badly.
Drew
He needed that.
Inya
I hear that so often that I'm like, honestly. Yeah, double it and give it to the next person.
Kai
I also. I hear it a lot too, but I'm also. I'm like, mentally ill, so it doesn't really absorb. So I do need to hear every day.
Inya
No, you have, like, hearing issues and you think you're hearing that.
Eli
What mental illness do you have? Sorry, I cut you off.
Kai
I have depression and anxiety.
Eli
Okay.
Drew
Boring.
Eli
I have ocd. And what is the other one? Schizophrenia. Wait, you're my ocd. You're my schizophrenia, dude.
Inya
Honestly, I'm so like flattered because I also have ocd. So I'm glad that I'm the schizophrenia.
Eli
Look at my hands. Wait, I obsessively wash my hands.
Inya
Oh, dude.
Eli
Girl, it's bad. It's really bad.
Inya
I mean I, my nails now are much better and. But I just had to redo them yesterday. But my, my, my fingers and I can't have.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Thank you.
Inya
I can't have cuticle cutters because I like, I literally will have. And growing up I had bad infections on my like fingers because I would like bite them so bad. So I know the feeling. And also here I had bad eczema and I would scratch it so bad. So then I wore zip ups growing up every day in hot ass Florida and I was like, no, I'm actually not hot. Like, I'm literally not hot.
Drew
You're like the opposite of the boy wearing basketball shorts in winter. Yeah, like, I'm actually not cold at all. I'm sweating. I'm not dying of humping.
Eli
Oh my gosh.
Inya
Well, I'm on Prozac for it.
Eli
Oh my God. Zoloft Y 150.
Drew
Yeah, well, I think, I don't know
Inya
Z have like a bigger starting number.
Eli
Probably, probably. But I need to go up, honestly.
Drew
Really?
Eli
Yeah, it's getting bad again.
Inya
I mean, real as, bro. Like, yeah, I just have OCD and I, it was like causing anxiety. I had never. I remember one time we were all at lunch and I was like, I've always been really depressive. I have bad seasonal depression.
Drew
And like, girl, you have bad every season.
Inya
Yeah, I just have bad depression. But it gets really, really bad in winter. Like in winter it's like I can't fight this monster anymore. But every other day I'm like, girl, this is the new normal. Like, yeah, like, yeah, in LA too. But actually in LA is when it got really bad because I'm not even used to like being cold and like having that transition. So. And then like moving here actually made it worse because I used to have no reference of time, if that makes sense. Like there's no seasons in Florida. And then moving here it actually, I think me up because I was like, oh, I can actively see time change, like moving around me for the first time. Like Florida, everyday is so Truman show. But even here it's like, oh my God, the tree out my window has no leave.
Drew
What?
Inya
Like, like that's.
Drew
Who took the color.
Inya
Yeah, they turned off the color of my Town.
Drew
Turned off the color in my town.
Inya
I never had that. That was crazy. And like, hurricanes are like, hey, like that to me. What was. Whatever. But yeah, I think that's when it got bad here. But ocd, I think, was my main issue. That's my main freak elite.
Eli
Me and her go together.
Inya
Oh, wait, what's your mental illness? But you.
Drew
I'm gay.
Kai
Oh, yeah?
Inya
Yeah. And I shout out to that.
Eli
Did you come out?
Drew
I mean, I'm not gay. I'm not gay. I literally forgot.
Kai
You need to just come out, Drew.
Drew
And you need to shut the up.
Kai
No, you're right.
Drew
You're coming out on my own terms. Come out as what? Queen? No, I'm a queen.
Inya
Like the band or.
Drew
Yes, Abbott.
Inya
Ew.
Drew
Uh, no, I just, like, am depressed and anxious, period. But I don't take anything.
Eli
I honestly, like, this morning, like, it felt like I was like, about to do, like a confessional, like, with Oprah. My first, like, sit down interview for, like 15 years. I was like, looking in the mirror. I was like, just be honest. Just be honest with them. Like, this is a big deal to me. Like, oh, that must be.
Inya
Well, if it makes you feel any better, Drew saying he could be a pop star. Every time we ever do anything public, anything, Drew has the kind of like,
Drew
I start subtle panic attack.
Inya
That's literally. It's so entertaining to watch.
Drew
But he literally freaks out, freak the fuck out. And then I start drinking, like, tap water wherever we are.
Eli
He goes to the bathroom and just
Inya
goes in the bathroom and just like.
Drew
Like, I freak out. And then one time I found out that the water was non potable. So I was just drinking, like, non filtered shit water, basically. And it was.
Inya
It was at a college show and he got called out by one of the college students who was like, chaperoning us around.
Eli
They were like, have you been drinking?
Inya
The water in there?
Drew
Was like, yeah, no, the worms are in my pocket.
Inya
She was like, you shouldn't be doing that.
Eli
That's really bad. Isn't LA water bad? Right?
Kai
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Chlorine and Wellbutrin in it.
Drew
Oh, wait, the Wellbutrin I live. Yeah, I think they tested it.
Kai
There was like, Lexapro and Wellbutrin.
Drew
Trace amounts need that.
Inya
Well, I saw a video of a girl putting this, like, thing that absorbs chlor. Chlorine and then. Or shows chlorine in water. And she hadn't touched the water from tap water, and it was here. And then the other one, she put her hand in it and then put that same thing in it and it activate. And she was talking about how chlorine seeps into your skin because we're so porous. And the la tap water has like a crazy amount of chlorine.
Kai
It smells like a pool if you just smell it.
Drew
That's why I have the jolie shower head.
Kai
Okay.
Drew
Buy it now.
Inya
Why are you like a walking black Nero right now? What the fuck happened to you? Like what? Okay, okay.
Eli
So I had a fourth grade teacher who literally like would not drink water. And she always poured those like, remember like the like little like lemonade like,
Drew
like things in it.
Eli
And like I used to go home and cry at night. I used to be like, she won't drink water.
Drew
We need to save water.
Eli
No, I actually it was like when Nick Jonas got diabetes. Like it was like so stressful.
Drew
Wait, was that intense?
Inya
She had you on the lookout. I was nervous.
Eli
It was really like, I, I remember it still to this day. It's like.
Drew
Do you remember when Hillary Duff showed up to. Was it Lindsay Lohan's movie?
Eli
Oh my God. I was just on like a rabbit hole about that last night.
Drew
I was on the rabbit hole at like 4:30 this morning. But we're locked in. We're locked in.
Inya
I don't know about that. To me it's mad funny because I don't have any like necessarily real connection because I didn't grow up watching her show, which is the one that was a huge for her.
Eli
Lizzie McGuire.
Inya
Lizzie McGuire. See, I didn't grow up like super into Lizzie McGuire. Lindsay Lohan. I mean she's Lindsay Lohan. She's amazing, iconic. But what did they have beef?
Eli
She said it was her nemesis.
Drew
Yeah, it was.
Eli
That was my childhood nemesis.
Drew
What was it?
Inya
I mean, is it because they were kind of having like look alike wars or something? Like to me, they kind of. To me I'm like, I wonder if that beef comes from the fact that like, at least for me growing up, I mistook them for each other a lot.
Eli
Oh really?
Drew
Was it someone they like shared a boyfriend or something? They were like in a love triangle.
Inya
Oh, everyone's sharing boyfriends.
Drew
Yeah, everyone's sharing. But they were also like, it's not
Inya
even like, let's accept that. Like let's just accept the reality we live.
Drew
I think they were like 15 and they were. Oh, it was, was Aaron Carter. I think one of them dated Aaron Carter. They broke up. Then the other one started dating Aaron Carter. And then like obviously like in a 15 year old's brain. They're both, like, egomaniacal celebrities. Like, they're like, I hate y'.
Inya
All.
Drew
Do you have roommates?
Eli
Yeah, I do.
Drew
How is that?
Eli
Oh, my God. They're the best. One of my roommates wrote the One Woman show with me. Yeah.
Drew
That's so sick.
Eli
Yeah, I see.
Drew
Who was in front of me at the One Woman Show? Ethan Third.
Eli
Oh, my God. Ethan. Ethan. That's my girl.
Drew
Ethan is a key, so I actually like, the blue.
Eli
The blueprint for everyone and everything. Like, you don't know how, like, deep it goes, really. Like, he, like, made Beyonce. Like, he, like, he is.
Drew
That's major.
Eli
There are secrets that he'll never tell. I'm like, serious. He just, like, understands music in a way, and then he, like, always ends up in a room with, like, Beyonce and, like, so sick.
Inya
I'm like, me. I'm like, wait, I want to go.
Drew
Yeah, wait, take us there.
Inya
I'm like, wait, are you being serious?
Eli
Because I'm like, no, he never met Beyonce. But I feel like he's. He, like, he, like, put me onto Ethel Kane in, like, 2011, like, when she was, like, a child.
Inya
Oh, sorry.
Eli
She wasn't even Ethel Kane. Like, he's just. He. Yeah.
Drew
Do you have any.
Inya
I mean, that's like, the ideal kind of friend I feel like, to have, especially as an artist, because just, like, it's like the OG Internet sleuth before it had bad rep to it of, like, random, bordering special interest ass motherfucker who's just like, I want to find a star. And for what? Literally nothing. Like, that's what he's sounding like, is just someone who's like, I would like to know a lot, but for no gain.
Eli
No, he's just like. He's also, like, a great songwriter, and he makes music, great artists.
Drew
Oh, he makes music.
Inya
Yeah.
Eli
Such good music. Very, like, ahead of his time always. I love him so much. Peculiar. Ethan.
Inya
Okay, yeah.
Eli
Save the name, dude. That's amazing.
Drew
Save the name Eli, too. I'm not even kidding. I am, like, so bullish on you in a way that, like, when I am, like, like, out, and people are like, what are you listening to? I'm literally like, eli, like, I'm not even joking. I literally think you're going to be a superstar. And, like, I'm like, you know, I was just about to ask you, like, who other musicians that you were, like, listening to before, they were, like, who they are now. Like, one of them's like, Lana Del Rey for me. Like, if you go deep on my Instagram in like 2013, I had said woman Crush Wednesday because I was too scared to be like, Yes, I was. It was.
Eli
I did that too. I have them up on my page, though. A lot of women crush Wednesdays.
Drew
Yeah, it was Beyonce, Miley Cyrus, and Lana Del Rey.
Inya
That's so funny.
Drew
They're so hot. Oh my God, they're so hot.
Eli
So hot. A bunch of heart eye emojis.
Drew
Yes. Yes. Eggplant.
Inya
Eggplant.
Drew
Eggplant emoji.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Finding out I had OCD alone was genuinely so relieving. It felt like it gave an answer to a question I had always been asking, which is, why do I have so many questions? Why are the questions never ending? And why do all the questions end with me being horrible and I'm going to burn for eternity for all of
Inya
the bad things I do all day,
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
even though I don't do anything bad?
Drew
And don't forget about that skin scrubbing.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Oh yeah.
Inya
Oh my gosh.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
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Drew
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Drew
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Eli
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NOCD Therapist / Narrator
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Eli
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Drew
Was eggplant emoji a thing back then?
Eli
Yeah, 100% eggplant has always been that.
Drew
And y' all know about the robber emoji, right?
Inya
Right? Yeah.
Drew
Where is it,
Eli
dude? Whoa, whoa.
Inya
Free all of those girls.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
That's all.
Inya
I'll say.
Drew
Wait, didn't one of them quit?
Inya
That's like. Well, it's a hiatus. But I personally, I'm like, those girls, let those girls go.
Eli
Let. Let them go.
Inya
It just disturbs you so good. And like it's getting to a point. Like it's just with everything, it's like how we're like, oh, strings pulled. Every sector of entertainment has that, but it gets to a point where it's like, like. And I can see the strings.
Eli
Oh my God. How many times have we like, seen like, why this play out?
Drew
Also, we're talking about Cat's eye, right?
Inya
Yeah.
Drew
Okay, I thought for a second we were talking about the girls from K Pop, Demon Hunter, cuz y' all said something about Netflix and I don't know, Cat's Eye and Netflix.
Eli
Was anyone a harmonizer?
Inya
No.
Eli
Okay, never mind, never mind.
Drew
Wait, wait.
Eli
Just move on. Move on, move on.
Drew
No, no, we need to talk about this. Unpack this. We're unpacking it.
Eli
Do you know what a harmonizer is?
Inya
Yeah, Fifth Harmony.
Eli
Oh, yeah. Okay, that's all.
Inya
Yeah, I wasn't necessarily a harmonizer.
Eli
Five pass.
Inya
Whoa, whoa.
Eli
Was that it?
Inya
Okay, see, I wasn't like deep in like there, but I, I was, I was acquainted. Like if I ended up harmonizer, I'm like, hey, girls. Like, I know the girls as well.
Eli
The girl.
Drew
Were you deep on like, Stan Twitter, like, during Harmonizer era Sauce, One Direction?
Eli
No. Well, it was weird. It was like, I felt like, I always say, I'm like, I was like, adjacent to it because I was like,
Drew
sorry, I hide it behind the mic too, period.
Eli
I like, I was already, you know, working on my big one. Like, I was like, oh, I'm Beyonce. Sort of like, I use that. Yeah, I just, I was like, I had a Twitter, but I was like, you know, promoting myself at 12 years old. So it was like very.
Inya
That's very. That's very chic though. And I'm not even kidding. I'm like, the decorum. The decorum quorum of that is very. No, it's like, it's like you had your little one, two on. You were like, okay, yeah, I fuck with you. But like, let's not get too excited because if I start screaming and shouting, the girls might look at me too.
Drew
Were you ever, like, involved with like, Stan Twitter? Because, like, that's what like, stood out the most to me at your show was how funny you were.
Eli
Well, I would scroll through it. Like, I would never interact because I was like, I can't make a comment on this because it's gonna get back to me in 15 years. Like, I'm gonna be in the rooms with those girls and look at you now.
Inya
I mean, y, my ass.
Drew
Zara Larson, Demi, Adela, all in the same room there for you. Literally.
Inya
So amazing, girl.
Eli
I don't know how I convinced them. And I feel like Demi hates me now because it was so awkward. It really was funny and it was like, it felt like I was like, oh, it's like Nathan Fielder.
Drew
Like, exactly.
Inya
It was. I. I think it was perfect also because to me, if anything, it goes to show that it's not some like, strings pulled thing of marketing as much as it is like, these people obvious just like us find you interesting, like what you make and they're willing to put themselves in your world of just like, I don't really know what's happening, but I'll go because I with her and I want to see her.
Eli
It's cr. I can't process it still. Like, it's very weird.
Drew
Did you message them?
Eli
Yeah, I was like, I made like. I went on my laptop and I made like photo booth videos. I was like, hey, dummy, you have to leak. I like, made little audition videos for
Drew
them and leak those one day. That's going to be amazing.
Eli
Apparently one of them ended up in, like, a. A label meeting for an artist or like a management meeting, and they had to turn their cameras off because that was making them so uncomfortable and that that artist did not come to the show.
Drew
Wait, I need to know who it is after the fact. That's so funny. Okay. Are you actually all up in Addison Rae's DMs?
Eli
Like, is that a 100%? Can I explain this? Because I think I need to, like, put it on the record and. And. And just, like, state my apologies and everything. I. I am so obsessed with the music that she put out. And, like, it just. I was speaking of, like, growing up on the Internet, like, I always hated a who, like, was like an influencer and then made music. Like, I would get so angry. I would get so angry. But that one Baby Ariel. Arielle song. It's like so good. It's like O Baby or something. It's like Michael Jackson is fire. It's so funny.
Drew
I don't know that one.
Eli
What that's about. So funny. So I was always kind of anti that. Cuz I was like, no, like, I've been hustling like, I was 10 years old.
Inya
I think that's real.
Eli
I was 10 years old on YouTube. Are you seeing my Q tips and judging me?
Inya
Okay. No, I'm looking in your eyes.
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Eli
Would you ever kiss a girl?
Inya
Oh,
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I've had a tampon string on my chin.
Drew
Whoa.
Inya
Like, wait.
Eli
One time I went down on a girl and started gushing blood out of my nose, and I thought she was bleeding. I get up, I'm like, wait.
Inya
And it's like pouring out.
Drew
How did they get up my nose?
Inya
You sinked with me. We sing fine, actually.
Eli
And I was deep. I was like. That was like religious PE. Like, I was 15. It was like. So I was like a son.
Inya
And you have ocd, so I know the thoughts.
Eli
Girl.
Drew
Girl.
Eli
The thoughts.
Drew
The thoughts.
Eli
Can I tell you I lost my virginity 90 on the day of my confirmation because of my OCD. I was like, okay, well, I can once I'm like, with the Lord. You know what I mean?
Inya
That's really real. Because I. I actively was like, I'm gonna wait till I'm 18 to have sex. Less than two months after that, I like, actively sought out someone to have sex with because I was like, well, I'm 18 now. I have to do rules,
Drew
social, unstruct.
Inya
Well, yeah, my original idea of sex too, was middle school to. I talked about this on the podcast. I really thought, because I was Watching media and stuff where, like, teenagers were having sex. I was like, holy, next year I have to have sex. And then I found out you could wait till you're 18. And I was like, thank God. Thank God that guy held back.
Drew
Well, I lost my virginity to an army man. And after we hooked up, he looked at me and he was like, that was your first time, huh? And I was like, yeah. And then he was like, like, so, what are you doing? Like, what are you. Where are you going after this? And he was like, I'm, like, joining the army, like, or I'm in the military right now. And I freaked out. And I was like, I'm also joining the army. And I just, like, I literally did stolen valor to this man. And, like, he was like, oh, what branch? And I was so young, I literally had no idea what that meant. And I was like, arm the army. The military.
Inya
That's insane.
Drew
And then he drove me back to my car, and I. It was also in the parking lot of a Walmart, by the way.
Eli
Oh, that's hot.
Drew
It is.
Eli
Did you think that you, like, something would happen if you weren't working in the army with him?
Drew
I just.
Eli
I thought he would.
Drew
I literally freaked out. I just also, like, we may or may not have to cut this, but I was a child and he was a grown ass man, and I was really scared of him. It was kind of hot, though.
Eli
I'm so sorry.
Drew
It's all good.
Inya
I'm so sorry.
Eli
I'm so sorry. I was groomed, too.
Drew
I mean, I think it's like, a right rite of passage for creatives. Question mark?
Inya
Did you guys ever do, like, expand your mind for creatives?
Kai
So funny.
Eli
Did you guys ever go on the, like, social media tours?
Drew
Oh, yeah.
Eli
That's how you. Oh, really?
Drew
Yeah. Did you?
Eli
Yes.
Drew
Which one? Did you?
Eli
Yeah, I've done. You know, I've dabbled. I've dabbled in digi.
Drew
No, we met on press play.
Inya
It was like the tea move.
Eli
Wait, that's tea.
Inya
We were getting.
Eli
No, I was even lower. There was one called Boys of Summer where, like, a pedophile was running.
Drew
It was like, oh, ours was ran by a pedophile.
Eli
Ours is ran by a pedophile.
Drew
It's incessant. It's crazy.
Inya
It's really odd.
Eli
And it's Scooter Braun's fault.
Inya
Yeah, I mean, yeah, he, like, opened the floodgates.
Drew
Did your tour manager also try to give y' all drugs all the time?
Eli
Oh, yeah. One of them literally handed me, like, I was 14 and gave me like a Jack and rum crazy, like, alcohol cocktail. Like big old cocktail.
Drew
And I was like, I was.
Inya
I gotta go on stage. I have to go sing Ariana Gro Day. Like, I never drank alcohol before.
Eli
Like, it was. There were the stories.
Drew
Yeah.
Inya
I mean, yeah, ours. One time, was it you or I who had a headache? One of us, like.
Drew
No, it wasn't us, it was Christian.
Inya
Oh, okay. One of our friends had a headache and the tour manager literally gave him like. Like a crazy.
Drew
Yeah, a literal Percocet. And then like, he would give us like muscle relaxers all the time for some reason. And then on top of that, like, like, mind you, all miners would just like give us weed tincture all the time. And then I was it. Did I turn 17 or 18? I don't know. I turned an age and for my birthday he got me Calvin Klein boxer brief, which, like, not that crazy, but like, it's. That's crazy crazy. That's crazy crazy.
Inya
It's very creepy. Very creepy vibes. Also, he literally would give us a bunch of alcohol and. And when we would ask to be paid because, cuz, like, we weren't paid or anything.
Drew
Yeah. Were you paid? No. Yeah, of course.
Eli
At the end of the day, I was. I didn't have money. I was 13, but I was paying somehow.
Drew
Yeah, exactly.
Roommate / Friend
I know.
Inya
Yeah.
Eli
I mean, you were because paid an emotional debt.
Inya
Like, not only that, but our guy wouldn't like, feed us proper food. We were only allowed to eat like the food that was like, in the hotel banquet hall when we would work there. And like, he had allotted times for
Drew
food for us to steal his credit card a couple times. Did you like, make friends with people on the tour?
Eli
I got groomed by one of them on the tour.
Drew
Oh my God. Well, same with in.
Eli
Yeah, but did I make friends? He had a gun too. It was crazy. And he was also, like, he wasn't even like on the tour. Like, he was like the older brother of all the. His little boy, like his little brothers. On the tour you said, did I make friends with anyone? No, I wish.
Drew
See, that was like our feeling. We would have like, ran away, but like, we were like, held like, emotionally by all of the friends we made because, like, back home, like, I mean, I was kind of like a fucking loser at this point. So, like, my only friends were like the people I was seeing like every weekend or every other weekend. So that's why we stayed so long.
Inya
I feel like we were on that tour for so long.
Drew
How long did You.
Eli
I guess I did. I did.
Drew
And I also. I know Boys of Summer. I've. I've heard of it. I've heard of her. I've heard of her.
Eli
Why would they have a girl on it, though?
Drew
Exactly.
Eli
Very weird. Very weird. Let's unpack that. How long was. It was like, a. I did a summer or two. Oh, my God. And then, like, one of the dads who was, like, funding it for one of, like, the really rich boys was, like. He, like, threatened to sue me because, like, I made my little, like, Pixar poster of, like, I'm going on tour. That was like. I was like, really? Like, I was like, I'm gonna do my own thing. Like, I'm gonna be like, put my name. You know, like, when. Like, a girl. When a girl's, like, opening for Dua Lipa and, like, she makes her own little poster, and it's like, the fans live, like, your little community. And so I was like, I'm gonna do that. And they literally, like, emailed my parents. They were like, like, take this down now. Or, like, we're suing you. Like, this is very. It was like. And I was terrified.
Drew
I wonder how much money they were making, like, the people, like. Because, like, ours weren't, like, not. They weren't, like, nothing.
Inya
No, they were extremely expensive. It's, like, so up to think about. There was a ticket to stay at the hotel we were all staying at, and I don't think it covered.
Eli
Buy a ticket to go to the hotel with you guys.
Inya
Dude.
Eli
That is.
Inya
We would get flown in on Fridays. Again, we got really lucky because, again, this was also the era of the Internet, and because it was such a teu ass, like, tour, it didn't really
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
attract too many, actually insane people.
Inya
It kind of just attracted what we were, which was, like, other mad, lonely, like, girls. And so luckily, we usually interacted with, like, really cool, like, people. Like, but the closer we got to them, we never really put two and two together, like, how expensive everything was, because we knew, like, there were tickets, but we didn't realize until later on what was happening because we would get there, and then there was, like, a VIP thing, like, sleepover situation where we would land and get, like, 30 minutes to chill. But then we would have to go into this, like, area banquet hall to, like, have dinner slash hang out with
Drew
these fans until, like, that spent, like, thousands of dollars.
Inya
500 to sit with me.
Drew
And Drew also would go to, like,
Eli
kind of, like, me writing a show. You know how much I paid your
Drew
team or PayPal after this. I do not have cash app.
Inya
We have QR codes.
Drew
Except Zell. Did you do digi?
Eli
I did. Like, the fest.
Drew
See, I literally was always so jealous that I never got invited. I never got invited.
Eli
I did. I did a. I got asked to do. Sorry to rub it in.
Drew
No, I need to know.
Eli
Well, you'll be happy. At the end of it. I got asked to do, like, one of the. I think it was like O2L was doing it and I was gonna sing or something on it, and I was like, this is huge for me. I was 14 or 13, whatever, it doesn't matter. And either way, that is.
Inya
It's so crazy though, because that is huge.
Eli
And I was so fucking hyped. And then, you know what happened? And my parents are so far removed from this and we're like, what the fuck is happening? This is so weird. And why. Why do you have followers? And why did you make an email and put it in your bio and be like, I'm running a business.
Drew
Y.
Eli
And they were just, like, so confused and uncomfortable, but they suddenly turned into momager. Dadager. They were like, you can't do it because you can't sing a full song. Cause I was like, singing online for like five seconds and like, just being like, oh, yeah, yeah.
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Eli
And so they would, like, hear me just, like, redoing the. Oh, yeah, yeah. Fuck. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fuck.
Drew
Doing all your Shay. Wait.
Inya
Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Eli
But I would do it so much. And so they were just, like, fed up with me, like, repeating, like, one line in my room that they were like, you're not. You're not going on tour. Like, I don't. Like you're not. And maybe they were using that as an. But I just remember. Let me tell you, I remember I invited them into my room. I was like, let me show you.
Inya
Stop.
Eli
Sam Smith, stay with me.
Drew
Sam Smith.
Eli
Sam Smith.
Drew
Full circle moment.
Eli
So full circle. I was crying over the piano, hunched over, like, heaving. Because I kept stopping. I, like, would be like, oh, won't you. And then my mom and dad, I'd be like, see, you're not doing it. So I didn't go on the tour because I would be like, stop.
Inya
No.
Eli
Fuck. Like, you know that video of the girl who's like, fuck, yeah. She's singing like, I will always love you. That was.
Inya
That was.
Eli
That is still me. Like, that is the one woman show.
Drew
That was the idea.
Eli
Yeah.
Inya
That is honestly so, so amazing. Do you look back at that and you're upset or do you look back at that and you're happy that your
Eli
parents hadn't let you gone for that one? I feel like maybe I. I mean, now I'm like, girl, I don't give a.
Drew
Whatever.
Eli
It's the past. So in the past. But I think I was pretty upset until like 18, until morning when I got the offer to come.
Inya
Dude, that's so funny.
Eli
Yeah. Weird.
Inya
I feel like your life would have been completely different if you went on that.
Eli
I think there were. There were some. Yeah, there was something. I almost signed like one of those, like, really, like the 360 deal with the person who signed Jojo and like, didn't. Like, she didn't get to release music for 10 years. I almost did that.
Drew
Wow.
Eli
And like, the guy was like selling merchandise under my name for like two years peak, like virality when I was 12. And like, I didn't make any money. Like, that could have been my savings, bitch.
Drew
Like, it's crazy.
Eli
I gotta use that the last five years.
Drew
Exactly. It is crazy how. How insidious people are. Like, and I didn't. I haven't even realized, like, under fully understood, like, how insane it was. Yeah. And how deep it goes until like very recently as like a grown ass man. And like, people literally just like, see kids and take advantage of them, like, financially. It's like so wild. Like, I knew that was always a thing, but, like, you don't know, like
Eli
you're in it exactly.
Drew
Until years later.
Eli
It's horrible.
Inya
And it's like. Yeah, it's a tale as old as time. Like, no matter how smart you are
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
or mature you are for your age,
Inya
an adult will always be able to pull a fast one on you. Because there are just some things you don't know until you're older and it's too fucking late and it's already happened. But it is unreal too. I mean, it goes back to like what we were saying about even cat's Eyes. Like, we all are growing up in an age where we would like to think we know better, but it's almost even like bystanders. Standard effect on the masses is like, everybody's like, well, if they're doing it. And I feel like that's what they do when they start to take advantage of people. Also, it's just now there's so many people who you can make a quick buckle.
Drew
Did y' all see that? They are recently saying that they severely underestimated how many people are on earth.
Kai
Wait, what?
Drew
Yeah, they're. They're like they said there's a lot of us here.
Kai
So I'm like, what do you mean they? Who is they?
Drew
Twitter tweets, Jeff Bezos.
Kai
What's the difference?
Drew
Do they think they just. I just.
Kai
100 billion.
Drew
Okay, fine. I just read a tweet that said. No, I was just telling Kai this morning, like, I am to the point where I'm falling for AI. Like, literally, I fell for like this Toby Maguire AI photo of him wearing a SpongeBob backpack. And I was like. Or a sonic backpack. And I was like, whoa, this is like that they did this. It was Toby Maguire and I cannot think of her name. Like a Virgin Suicides.
Inya
Kirsten Dun.
Drew
Yes, it was them two. And they were swagged the out. And I was like, wait, this photo eats. And then I was like, oh, this is AI. And then I looked at the likes and it had like 4 million likes. And I was like, there's no way 4 million people fell for AI. Like, this is real.
Eli
No, baby, it's AI going to get so weird. Like, I actually think, like, all of human life, like, what we are living right now, like, it genuinely is going to be revealed that none of this was real.
Drew
It is.
Eli
And like, then we're. And then we're going to be like, let me know.
Drew
The best proof, it's like the best proof for like life being a simulation that we are sentient during the singularity. Like, it's. It's fucking crazy that it's like happening. Like the odds and chances of that is like, genuinely insane.
Kai
I realized the other day I have like a core belief that it's either aliens or the simulation will be revealed. I feel like I've subconsciously had that belief since I was like 10. But I'm like, at some point in my life, the lights are going to turn on at night and there's going to be like a big eyeball.
Drew
Exactly.
Eli
Oh my gosh.
Drew
Wait, are you like alien pilled?
Eli
I'm not. I. I don't. I definitely think like, oh, maybe, maybe like we just are aliens. Like in this like, time loop sort of situation. Like, I've definitely felt like, I felt myself be like, wait, okay. Like, so I've done this like 700 times.
Drew
Same.
Eli
And like, so we need to like, work this out. Like, we need to.
Drew
I'm right there with you.
Eli
Yeah. But I don't know if I'm like, ever like, live. Oh, there was a moment where I like, oh, can I tell you about this, please? I was like, I had a. What do you Call it a psychiatrist. Who gave me way too much Adderall in college.
Drew
Same in high school.
Eli
Oh, girl, it was so bad. He was like. He called me a. And then he, like, it was really weird. He called me a. Then he gave me 40 milligrams. He was like, take this every day. Like, take as much as you want.
Kai
Like, do your thing in the same
Eli
sentence and do your thing.
Drew
Pretty much a psychiatrist saying that. Call me a. Yeah, that's insane.
Eli
You want to call me it?
Drew
I'll let you call me it. You call me it.
Eli
And what happened? Oh, so I. I, like, thought I was like, Jesus. Like, it put me in, like, in psychosis. Psychosis. I was, like, meditating to, like, all the gods. Like, I was. I was like David Bowie. I was talking to Freddie Mercury. It was really lit. It was like.
Drew
And that's why you're a star now.
Eli
It was an awesome table.
Drew
A star was born, baby.
Eli
No, it was really lit. It was so fire. But where did this go? This went to. What were we talking about before that? I wanted to say this. Oh, then, like, I definitely, definitely, like, thought, like, okay. That was when I was like, okay, like, I had this alien named Pamela, and I bought. It was Peak Cove Coven, and I bought, like, a big animatronic alien.
Inya
I used.
Eli
I used this gay grant that I got for being gay. No. Well,
Drew
that's so sick.
Inya
And that's exactly where I want my taxes and grand money going. That's exactly.
Eli
So cute, though. It was like my. It was like my safe haven.
Inya
I would argue it was necessary.
Drew
Do you see Pamela? I literally need to see Pamela so bad.
Inya
Oh, my gosh.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Yeah.
Inya
I don't believe in aliens. And I also. I can't say that I think the lights are going to turn on or anything. I'm like, no, this is pretty. Like, I. I think this.
Eli
The lights will turn off.
Inya
No, I think it's as simple as, like, guys.
Drew
No.
Inya
Yeah, this is pretty.
Eli
I know, right?
Drew
That was really powerful.
Kai
This is just.
Eli
This is.
Inya
Is it.
Drew
This is it.
Inya
I'm not necessarily.
Drew
Wait, is that the Justin Bieber documentary? This is it.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Finding out I had OCD alone was genuinely so relieving, it felt like it gave an answer to a question I had always been asking, which is, why do I have so many questions? Why are the questions never ending? And why do all the questions end with me being horrible and I'm gonna burn for eternity for all of the
Inya
bad things I do all day, even
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
though I don't do anything bad and
Drew
don't forget about that skin scrubbing.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Oh yeah.
Inya
Oh my gosh.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
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Drew
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Inya
I think that's Michael Jackson.
Kai
Yeah, that was Michael Jackson. Jackson.
Drew
Same thing, same difference. Same same talent, similar situation. I was put on like a heroic dose of Aderall and Xanax in high school. And it with my hormones so crazy that I literally genuinely believed I was. Yes, yes, I genuinely believed I was an alien. Like, I would claim that in school and to my parents and I was like, I'm so famously.
Inya
Madison said she's an alien and she's only on earth right now.
Drew
And when she said that I became biggest fan. I was like, that's twin right there.
Inya
She kept you here.
Drew
But fire. She's. She's so fierce. And then, yeah, I thought I was an alien and I would draw aliens on everything. Like, so.
Kai
I'm E.T. i'm extra.
Drew
It's real. It came from a real place. Oh, wait, Eli, do you want to hear like my rap verse? Oh, my God.
Eli
Yes.
Drew
I'm E.T. i'm extra. Read all about it. Read all about about it.
Inya
You can buy that if you want, by the way.
Kai
Yeah, how. How much. How much are you selling that for?
Eli
Yeah, how much?
Drew
Like, a lot of money.
Eli
Did you just write that or this?
Inya
For a while now.
Drew
I also have this idea for emoji restaurant.
Eli
Extra.
Drew
Wait. Sing it. It sounds better. I'm going to cry.
Eli
I'm extra. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Drew
Like, why am I literally about to cry?
Inya
Drew, seeing his work come to life, come to fruition.
Drew
My life's work is that part. What was this thing? Oh, I have emoji restaurant too, which is very major if you want to invest. Get on the ground floor.
Eli
An emoji restaurant.
Inya
He's been pitching this forever also. Go ahead, go for it.
Drew
It's just this restaurant where the smiley fries. Yes. It's like food shaped emoji.
Eli
They don't have them anywhere anymore.
Drew
It's. It's food shaped like emojis.
Eli
Sorry. I, like, really wanted to find the alien, but I can't find it.
Drew
We'll find it a little bit.
Kai
Wait, would the food be shaped like emojis or be Made. What would it be made out of?
Drew
Like, fondant and stain.
Eli
Do you have an emoji face? I had emoji socks, emoji T shirt, a bunch of emoji pillows, and I would like.
Inya
I like emoji pillows. I can.
Drew
With emoji. We would wear, like, emoji tights and stuff.
Inya
I had emoji tracks.
Eli
Would you guys ever make a stuffed animal that is. Is like a caterpillar that becomes a butterfly?
Inya
Would we ever make a stuffed animal?
Ryan Seacrest
What?
Drew
Yes.
Kai
Never, like, unfold.
Inya
Would you like that?
Eli
I want that.
Inya
Okay.
Drew
We'll make it for you.
Eli
We got you. We have a factory. That's my dream. I feel like you might.
Drew
We have a factory.
Inya
I mean, we just had toys made
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
for the first time.
Eli
Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, the toys are so good. Like, can you get into the business?
Drew
We'll get you a pair.
Eli
Really? Don't play.
Drew
We're like. I was hoping we would have had, like, our box sent to us by now, so we. Because we want to give them to, like, guests, but we'll. We'll figure out a way to get it to you.
Eli
Can we hang out, like, outside of, like. Yeah.
Inya
What the.
Drew
I see your close friend story, and I literally, like, show it in.
Eli
You know, fully put you guys on the close friends. The minute you came to, I was like, I. I'm not. I swear. I know I give this. But I'm not that bitch who, like, puts everyone on their close friends. No.
Drew
I was so flattered. Like, I was so flattered. And I kept showing in. Yeah. I was like, oh, she's a vibe. Like, she's a key.
Eli
I have a profound urge.
Inya
Wait, what was the situation with all the things pressed up against the door? What happened?
Drew
Explain.
Ryan Seacrest
It was.
Eli
It was really bad.
Inya
Are you okay?
Eli
I'm okay now. I'm, like, processing it. But, like, let me tell you, the real. The real deal was I moved into a new house while doing the one woman show, which was really stressful.
Drew
Wait, that's insane.
Eli
Because it was bad.
Inya
Is one of the most stressful events.
Eli
Oh, my God. Doing the. That's why I was kind of like, did you know you guys didn't come to the second one, right? Okay, so then that was the peak breakdown. Like, Olivia Rodrigo was in the corner, and I was like, I cannot believe this woman wanted to come to my. I didn't ask her to go. She. And wait.
Kai
That's.
Drew
I. I was curious. That's sick.
Eli
Bradley. No, I'm just like, they're the fact, like, I admire her as a songwriter so much and like, it was so scary. Like, I think just like, loving music. Knowing someone who mu. Like, I don't know, it was just like, made me so nervous and that like, triggered the, like, peak breakdown post. Like, moving really stressed out, really, like, like super broke. But like, like, thinking.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Thinking.
Eli
I like. Okay, anyways, this is not important.
Drew
No, it is. I'm. I'm genuinely so curious.
Eli
Well, I just think, like, being an artist at a major label where everybody is, like, getting a fixed salary and like, has healthcare and is like, there's like 15 lovely, sweet people and sometimes like, really like, having a key with me and like, kind of just like grew up on Stan Twitter. There's a lot of, like, Stan Twitter kids who then become, like, working at a label.
Drew
Like a.
Eli
Those are my divas.
Drew
Like, we have fun.
Inya
I love to see I have a job. I. I only have jobs because of that. Like, I literally, like, thank God. Like, the casting directors who hire me are always just like, I've loved you. I've seen online for a long time.
Eli
It's a good little. It's a good. And they're not the problem. But the problem is like, this. The system in place is like, I signed a deal like three years ago and like, I. The advance I was giving is gone. Like, I've used it all, like, dwindling. I'm not making any money, but like, I'm like Demi Lovato. Like, please, you came to my show. Like, can you please, like, cash at me? Like, $1,000. Like, I know that glam you did for my show cost a lot. Like, could I have some of it? Or like, they. This was like, so tea.
Drew
Actually, mine in Inya's glam was like 15 grand.
Inya
Yeah. And we went two nights.
Eli
You guys, like, sickening.
Drew
Yeah, thank you.
Eli
Fresh face, right?
Drew
Exactly.
Eli
But yeah, the. The thing about the thing on my wal. Maintenance guy like, wanted to me and I was living at first because I was like, this is fantasy. Like, this is.
Drew
I was gonna ask you about that.
Eli
Yeah. So this is like, validating my newly found acceptance in myself and my transness and my like, femininity because I like, started medically transitioning like seven months ago and I'm giving this. I mean, you are. I think I'm intersex because I think I've always been.
Drew
I mean, period.
Kai
Yeah.
Eli
I just know.
Inya
I think I'm not kidd. I cuz when I found you online, I.
Eli
You thought I was cis.
Inya
I.
Drew
No, I. Unironically.
Inya
I literally did.
Drew
Dead serious.
Inya
I just, like, I found you. I didn't realize until, I think you made a TikTok where you had mentioned it. And then I was like, I can't tell if she's being serious or if she's just, like, a lesbian or something. Like, I couldn't tell. And then Drew was like, oh, my gosh. When I started talking about you to Drew because we would, like, talk about your meeting music, Drew was like, oh, my God, I recognize her. And then I was like, from what? Like, what the. And then period. And the beauty is I haven't because I. I wasn't a part of that side of the Internet too. It's like the same thing with, like, Lindsay Lohan and stuff. Like, when you said O2L just now, I had to remind myself that it wasn't YouTube, that O2L was, like, that side of the YouTube. But I. I had no connection to it. I, like, didn't keep up with any of them or any of that. That was, like, very white business online, and I stayed out of it.
Eli
Right.
Inya
Right. But, yeah. You are gorgeous. Like what?
Eli
Like, you're gorgeous.
Drew
Stun. Stun.
Eli
What are you doing later?
Inya
Oh, you know.
Eli
What are you doing?
Inya
I'm going to the Hannah Montana. The 20th.
Eli
The 20th. We actually. Are you.
Inya
No, I'm not.
Drew
Where is it?
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
I don't know.
Eli
I'm not invited either. They were literally figure out how to get there. I don't know where it is.
Inya
You're like, I'm just going.
Eli
I'm just breaking down. Breaking down boundaries, barriers. I'm just walking into the building and saying, I want to make cursory. I know that's not fun, but I love that.
Inya
I mean, you act. I love her. I will always.
Drew
I love her.
Inya
Story, to me, is so real.
Eli
It's classic. It's classic. It can never get old. But I hate. I think c. Slay. Yeah. Oh, sorry. You texted me Y. But, like, I'm like. And I know it's probably. There's probably layers. There's so many layers. No irony. I believe it. I understand irony. Everything but, like, yas
Drew
layers there. But thank you for calling me out, because I will literally never use it.
Eli
I think you need to not use it with me because it just, like. It's like, what I hate.
Drew
You didn't text me back for four days after I said yes.
Eli
I did it. I was processing. I was not happy. But what I don't, like, also. Did you ever do the, like, one with the exclamation People do like exclamations
Drew
with ones and they accidentally typoed the. The. They let up on the shift key or whatever. That was about me.
Eli
I ne. That really made me. I also want T R U that you say what?
Drew
Yummers.
Inya
Oh, I like that.
Drew
Yummers.
Inya
That's so cute.
Eli
Yummers. I'm taking that.
Drew
Let's go get some food. Yummers.
Eli
So my maintenance guy tried to kill me.
Drew
Oh my God.
Inya
I would love to know what you're listening to or liking.
Eli
I've been on like a big Toni Braxton kick.
Inya
Oh, okay.
Kai
That's a lot.
Eli
Yes. Like I was playing Tony this whole way over. Like I live for like the era where I like there's like 2014, 2015 where it's like the production is so bad and like the snares suck and like everything is just like kind of bad. But she's. Her vocals are still like just.
Inya
She's still Tony.
Eli
She is Tony. And so there's something that feels very aspirational and like inspiring to me about listening to that because I'm like, okay. Like you can. I don't know, it just feels like a nice juxtaposition that I'm like, ugh. Love. Yeah, I love. Yeah, I love like a amazing vocalist over like a horrible beat.
Inya
Like I feel like also maybe. Cuz I assume based on like especially the music you make, you have like a deep love for like 80s. Like end of 80s. Specifically like R and B and like that like weird. Like really. Or maybe it was like early 80s whenever they were like electronic synths. Let's go crazy. So you'll be listening to the greatest Janet song of all time. And then they're like. And let's go. Like the worst production ever. And the thing. But it kind of works. It's like Janet on the back. Like.
Eli
Like Tony is like a similar. Thank you music crew.
Inya
Tony is a similar thing of like just these great vocalists who. They already have discogs with some of the greatest songs ever. That's.
Eli
Yeah. Oh yeah. 100 so it.
Inya
Yeah. I could see that. I want to listen. I haven't listened to like any of that era of song.
Eli
You should. It's. There's actually some really good ones. Like one of my favorite songs is from. Is from that era. One of my favorite Tony songs is. Is in that era. It's like actually so good. I'll send you.
Inya
Yeah, please do.
Eli
So that's what I'm living for.
Drew
Any movies you've seen recently that are like, do you get down with movie and tv.
Eli
I keep remembering, like, oh, my God, movies are everything. Like, letterbox is so fun. I. I mean, like, do I give, like, a real answer? Do I give a pretentious answer?
Inya
You can give, literally, if, like, you think of the dumbest movie ever. Because I'm media is really dumb. Like, I've been rewatching the 90s episodes of Pink Panther, and I. And I've just been listening to that, but I'm not even watching. I'm doing stuff while listening to it. I'm like, jim Carrey wouldn't exist if this didn't exist. That's what, like, that's type.
Eli
You're writing the essay.
Inya
Yeah, I'm literally.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
I'm not kidding.
Inya
I'm like, oh, my God. The inflections on, like, Mike or whatever his name is. Voice.
Eli
Yeah, that's t. Wait, another thing that happened in my, like, Adderall psychosis was I really was obsessed with the movie Big Eyes, which.
Inya
Haven't seen that.
Drew
Is it Big Fish?
Eli
Big Fish. Tim Burton, I think Tim Burton. I think it might be a Tim Burton.
Drew
Wait, I have to see this. Hold on.
Eli
It's the. The amazing female painter.
Inya
I haven't seen this.
Eli
Made all these, like. It's like a real. Based on a real story. And, like, her husband, like, fully, like, took. Took the paintings and ran with it and, like, really fucked her over and was, like, super abusive. And it's. It's a crazy. Crazy. I mean, it's, like, dramatic. Dramatic.
Inya
I need to watch this.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
This is one of Rain's favorite artists, the Margaret Keon.
Eli
I love the art. I walked past, like, one of the showings of that. Of those paintings, and they're so beautiful. There's a story in the eyes.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
It's also.
Inya
No moments like that. I mean, assuming it's one of your, like, hyper fiction.
Drew
I do know these paintings.
Inya
Thank you so much.
Drew
Thank you for coming on.
Inya
Well, no, thank you for having me having a swish.
Drew
I am literally, unironically, like, a fan of you.
Eli
Unironically. I'm a fan. So it means a lot. It means so much that you guys came to the show. Like, it's like, you guys are geniuses. I love your minds. Like, anytime you have crossed my pages, I'm. I'm so. Also, your music taste, like, I'm, like, parasocial. So, like, oh, thank you. Yeah.
Inya
Literally, again, we can go back and forth, like, forever. Different tap. But that's how we felt about you. Like, everything you make like you're A great vocalist. You're a really, like, great writer.
Drew
Glitter.
Inya
I'm not kidding. Going to your show twice, I was like, damn. All I could think is, one, this person is just going to be, like, a huge star. Like, there's no denying that.
Eli
And then two, I'll lose my humanity if I do.
Drew
No, but, like, in a chic way, I do.
Eli
Oh, really?
Drew
Yeah, I think in, like, a chic way.
Inya
Can we, like.
Eli
Can we, like, go to, like, the Mal Deep dives?
Drew
Yeah.
Eli
Can we, like, go to Bali or something?
Inya
Yeah, the mall dives. The mall chives. No, I think you will.
Eli
On vacation. You think I will. Tell me.
Inya
Oh, I. I think you will in the. In the Addison Ray sense of it all. Does that make sense?
Eli
Can I do the apology?
Drew
Oh, yes, yes. I'm sorry. Yes, please, please, please.
Eli
Addison Rae, can I talk to camera?
Inya
Yeah.
Eli
Yeah.
Drew
I mean, we're not.
Eli
Addison. Dear Addison. Dearest Addison. I was in. Okay, this is. Let me just, like, try to make this a short story. I was in peak, like, finally being myself, like, seven months, eight months ago. I was like, let me let my hair down. Like, let me, like, go to a doctor and be like, what are these feelings? You know, like, for the first, like, so like, literally just like, when you're repressed for. When you're repressed for like 23 years of your life, and then like finally or 20 or something years of your. Finally, you just, like, let it out, let it shine it. I was in honeymoon state with myself and I was just shooting the shit. Like, I was just non stop posting creative mode Instagram stories, like, saying the craziest things because I just was, like, having so much fun and I knew I looked crazy and everybody was like, oh, she's manic. Like, get her help. But I wasn't like, I was just like, this is so fun. And like, finally just I'm, like, letting myself speak, letting myself cook. Beautiful, right? Yeah. Okay. And that's my sob story. And that's the context to why I thought it was funny to just kind of like,
Inya
just like, send like, journal entries of like, like paragraphs of like.
Eli
Of, like, Addison, like, as I eat my salmon bowl from Goop and I picture. And I picture our mom moment of warm and bra. Like, I was just really, like, I thought yourself. I was feeling myself. And like, I just. I heard that. That energy in her music. I heard that freedom of expression.
Inya
And I. I fully agree. I literally have a. And I got so much for this because the Lord album and the Addison album, like, kind of had a moment where they were, like, overlapping. And I have the craziest, like, blog post on because I use my YouTube channel like a blog now. And I went on a crazy tangent about how I was. Like, both of these albums really satiate the, like, what it means to be a woman. And there's. There's two sides to it. Like, literally, it is really real.
Eli
It's such a vessel.
Inya
It's like a.
Eli
It's from the. The other side of the simulation. Like, she is pure happiness. She is a demi God sent from another realm to usher in the age of Aquarius. And I'll set it once and I'll say it again. She is the feminine. Like, she is the feminine realm.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
And it's.
Eli
It's, like, actually so rare that. That project of three fucking amazing women making.
Inya
I know. Yeah.
Eli
Music like, that's. That's, like, pioneer shit, kind of like.
Inya
No, I mean, Pink Panthers just was the first woman.
Eli
Give it up for Pink Producer.
Inya
That's crazy.
Eli
Why does it sound fresh? And why does it sound vis. Visionary and why? Why? Because it's.
Inya
Fuck, yeah.
Eli
Oh, it's just so basically, I just, like, was. I'm sorry, Addison, like, if I made you uncomfortable. You don't have to put this in. But, Addison, if I made you uncomfortable by sending you a lot of paragraphs one time, it would just be this thing where I thought we had, like, this ongoing bit where she wasn't really responding. It started with. It started with.
Drew
I was like, did she ever respond?
Eli
She did. So it started with. I posted this journal entry on my Create. Is it Create mode or Create mode?
Inya
Yeah, Create mode.
Eli
Create mode. I was like, really in the. Like, oh, these are my. This is my journal. And, like, how profound I am to, like, let people in and, like, really just unfiltered, you know?
Drew
Love it.
Inya
I fuck with that.
Drew
I mean, that's India on YouTube right now, dude.
Eli
It's so fire. And also, there's something. There's a switch when you see the colors and you start to. It's like. You can say you're like, just ate a salad and it looks like the funniest thing.
Drew
It's so profound. It's so beautiful.
Eli
It's so beautiful. Modern art, like, it's like, there needs to be. What? What? Anyways, there needs to be, like, a art showing of, like, create mode, whatever. Um, Addison, I like, post. I just was like, pass me the torch. Like, I know Charlie. Like, like, what Charlie did for you. Like, I'm the next. Like, it was like, a Whole thing. I was, like. Made a whole pitch. I had, like, a good argument. I used, like, my, like, sat. I remember, like, what? The argument. How to, like, frame an argument.
Drew
How to structure.
Eli
No. And she responds. She was like, you are so sweet. I like, thank you for this. You're. You're going to be amazing. Like, you're such a star. Like, she was so nice.
Drew
Yeah.
Eli
And then she was like, it's not gonna happen. Like, you're not opening for me. Like, I did not. Like, like, we're not having an opener, babe. Like, love you. And then I would just be like, okay, but, like, hey, listen to this loop pedal, like, version I made of my song. Like, I actually think this would be real. Like, I was, like, ready to be on her stage on the last tour and, like, crystal balls, like, put on, like, a whole show sound bath. I, like. And then she did a sound bath, and I was like, okay. It's also. She's a Libra. I think there's a collective consciousness there.
Inya
Okay.
Eli
Oh, no, I'm not helping my case. I'm not helping my case.
Inya
I mean, you're talking. I literally.
Eli
I also fully saw her at all time, and she hit herself. She was like.
Kai
She hit.
Eli
She was like. Because I think.
Inya
I thought you said she hit herself. I was like, damn, she was having a bad day.
Eli
No, I think she was hiding from me. I think I took it way too far. And I thought, like, oh, like, she gets it. Like, I'm not actually this crazy. I'm just like. I'm like, it's like a funny online
Drew
Persona that, to me, Flo's date Flo, genuinely.
Inya
I mean, I.
Eli
Are you guys scared?
Drew
Saw her do what?
Eli
Are you scared me now?
Drew
Absolutely not. I literally just wait till you hear about our troll moments that we've talked about extensively on here. One time, like, not calling yours a troll moment, but one time.
Eli
There's an element of troll. Yeah, it's like, it's fun and it's like. It's also, like. I don't know. I just think she gets it.
Drew
Yeah, she gets it.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
I think she does. She does.
Drew
She gets it. But we, like, made a fake fan account for my twin sister on. On Twitter and then took it way too far and acted like we were invading, so. Been taking it too hard.
Inya
Yeah, we've taken jokes too far.
Drew
We're crazy.
Eli
You see? You see the.
Inya
I see the vegetable. I mean, I am blocked by Drake's dad because I used to spam tweet him in the middle of the night. And I wasn't saying anything nice. I was being really mean. Like, I would be like, go to sleep, you old fucking fart.
Drew
I got a block.
Inya
But I'd be like, oh, my God, you whack ass motherfuckers. Stop trying to write on your son's fame, go to bed.
Eli
And what? Honestly.
Drew
And let's talk about it. I got blocked by Rainy Rodriguez because I reposted this photo of me and her where it says, I'm, He's, I'm. She's like. And would tag her in it like, 100 times until she blocked me. I'm hers. I'm. She's. I'm.
Inya
She's literally amazing. Okay, well, I think Addison knows you're joking. I think it's funny, and I think it's a vibe. Also, I know. I love a pitch. Hey, yeah.
Eli
You know, also, like. Like, what I was saying about the money thing. And, like, being at a label like this has felt like life or death in the last six months. Like, that's also.
Drew
I mean, it. You're hungry. It's working.
Eli
Hungry and it's working. I feel hungry. And also, like, I'm gonna live loud and proud and every day, like, I'm gonna pitch myself, you know? I mean, you definitely pitch yourself. Okay. Once again, I know there's gonna be another tour, Addison. And I think, like, having somebody who, you know, self produced, you know, sell, you know, just, like, I feel like I'm also, you know, in this.
Inya
Wait, did you produce your.
Eli
Most of it, not all of it.
Inya
That's still insane.
Eli
My best ones. My best ones are just me good. No shade good. I'm not. I don't have an ego. I just have a need to succeed. Succeed. And, you know, also, I really do. If. If I do make it, I'm putting it here now. If I do make it, I'm not gonna take the money. Like, I'm. I swear, the money. We're gonna funnel it back into the community. The queer community is gonna rise up, guys. Like, if I was traveling right now, I'd be, like, giving.
Drew
Dishing it out.
Eli
I actually think it needs to because they're funneling my business. And then, like, we should. Maybe that's like a pyramid scheme.
Drew
And what about it? The gays get in a pyramid scheme. Let's talk about it, okay?
Inya
Everyone deserves to be involved in a pyramid scheme. At least some at one point. No, but, I mean, I do fully agree with you. I think that's why, like, me and Drew are people who've always, like, Worked with our friends because like, that really is the core of it is like building out a community of people who. And if you're lucky, you get to collect artists who aren't all white.
NOCD Therapist / Narrator
Your whole.
Inya
All your whole creative career shouldn't be white. Because then I'd argue, what are you making? But whatever. That's a different thing. But like, it's nice to build out a community of people around you who you just like, believe in. And in that way you start to like slowly build that idea up, if that makes sense. It's kind of like how we're saying like a lot of like Stan cold culture like people or who are working as like a RS and in these systems now. And like, I feel like even through that I know of friends who work in the music industry who. It's like they all came from that and they like were putting their friends are so slowly but surely. Slowly but surely the takeover is happening. I see it. I see it.
Drew
Blue wave, baby.
Inya
Blue wave.
Drew
The rainbow wave.
Inya
Rainbow wave.
Eli
Well, they're scared of us.
Drew
Exactly. I mean, actually though, actually, yeah. But do you want to pitch or like, put anything on that you're doing? I know you're gonna go on tour soon.
Eli
I am going on tour. If anyone wants to pull up. There's like four, like a bunch of them sold out. But there's these like, there's four of them where like, nobody's coming.
Drew
Been there. Like, been there.
Eli
Philly. I'm about to eat a fat fucking Philly cheesecake online stage.
Inya
Like you.
Eli
30% tickets sold. That's.
Inya
Y' all go.
Drew
Seriously, I'm not kidding.
Eli
It is actually special fucking that I
Inya
push going to someone's concert. Please go. It's so good because, like, especially. And again, I just say this not to compare and I'm not saying names but like, we really are living through an era. I understand your frustration because we are living through an era of like, it used to be shameful to like chase a career as an artist and now it is shameful to not do that and to not like, be in the creative world. So now there's an overload of people and they really are almost deteriorating the standard of what it feels like to go to a good concert and your concert is one of those things that I would say, like, if you go to Eli's concert, you will. Then it's actually going to suck for you cuz then you're going to have like a higher standard and then you're going to go to another concert and be like, oh, so they let anybody do this? I didn't realize.
Eli
Oh my God. But yeah.
Inya
Thank you so much for being on.
Eli
Thank you for having me. I love you guys.
Drew
Love you, loving you.
Inya
Go listen to Eli stage girl.
Eli
Hey.
Drew
Going band for band.
Eli
Ha.
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This episode of Emergency Intercom features hosts Enya Umanzor and Drew Phillips in conversation with their friend and artist Eli. The main theme is a candid, often hilarious exploration of mental health, growing up on the internet, artistic journeys, and the uniquely absurd experiences of being terminally online. The conversation is driven by personal anecdotes, mutual admiration, revelations around OCD and other mental health diagnoses, chaotic stories from teen fame, and surreal tales of Adderall-induced psychosis, all delivered with signature self-deprecation and irreverence.
The episode is a mix of raw honesty and comedic chaos, shining a light on the realities behind viral fame, mental illness, gender euphoria, and surviving the entertainment industry as an outsider. Eli’s vulnerability and the hosts’ humor make for a heartfelt conversation about resilience, identity, and creative ambition. If you care about internet culture, queer artists, and the strange beauty of growing up pathologically online, this episode encapsulates it all.